WEBVTT - Spring Cleaning and VORC

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak

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<v Speaker 2>is that woo woom?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan and Tie welcome back to the solid verbal

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<v Speaker 1>boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildenbrandt, joining me

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<v Speaker 1>as always out there in the heart of the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan the Pizza Man Rubinstein, Sir, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>I have some pizza inside my belly and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible pizza and I messed it up, and I

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<v Speaker 2>still had two and a half slices. And it's especially

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<v Speaker 2>appropriate to do a spring cleaning episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't know what my inside's gonna look like later.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of dairy.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't going to go? Well? You did a vodka sauce pizza,

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<v Speaker 1>did you not?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? And that's tricky because we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>cream element or majority of the sauce mixed with For me,

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<v Speaker 2>it was tomato paste and shallots and garlic and all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of season. It was I mean, it tasted good,

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<v Speaker 2>but the ratios and I don't think I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was too rich and so it's just sort of it's sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sitting there, occupying space without contributing much. Kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like Jeff Long.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like Jeff. We'll get to that. Who now

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<v Speaker 1>was the athletic director at Kansas. We'll get to that momentarily.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know where I stand at vodka sauce. That's

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<v Speaker 1>your one true identifier of quality. That's my identifier of

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<v Speaker 1>quality when it comes to the Italian restaurant. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I had an instance where we went to go visit

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<v Speaker 1>friends and hang out at their house for the night,

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<v Speaker 1>but first went to a nearby restaurant and I got

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<v Speaker 1>the vodka sauce pizza. And let me tell you, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>go into that friend's house for most of the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the evening was quite an uncomfortable experience. Needed to

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<v Speaker 1>locate the facilities second we walked in that door. Because

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<v Speaker 1>vodka pizza sauce has never been a good combo for me.

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<v Speaker 2>FYI the Tavon Austin of Digestion.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sure, well, on that note, On that note, I

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<v Speaker 1>have ty he is Dan. This is a solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 1>We come your way twice a week here in this

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<v Speaker 1>very near future that I still need to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that Apple was dropping the subscribe terminology?

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<v Speaker 2>So what are they doing? What exactly are people to

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, it's just apparently there is data to suggest

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<v Speaker 1>with having him pay money. Too much of a commitment,

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<v Speaker 1>selected podcasting app, Dan, what'd love for you to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>The show topic this evening is spring cleaning, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a different Sorry, that's just my cleansings.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, please it's a little bit of a different

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<v Speaker 1>spin on it. We've done different versions of the show

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. We did a Marie Condo show a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. I am not ruling out doing

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<v Speaker 1>another Marie Condo show as we get into this year

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<v Speaker 1>off season, but we're getting further and further away from

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<v Speaker 1>that reference being meaningful to a lot of people. This

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<v Speaker 1>is also true, very true, Yeah, very true. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>that show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Our spin on spring cleaning today is.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about coordinators. We're talking about new coordinators in

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<v Speaker 2>some instances, new coordinators on new staves, stabs, staff, staves,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, hold on, hold on. I understand that the

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<v Speaker 2>word is staff, like calves, But if a football game

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<v Speaker 2>has two halves and we have two calves staff, why

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<v Speaker 2>are we not hold on? This is I'm running for

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<v Speaker 2>office on this platform. Should it not be.

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<v Speaker 1>Staves?

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<v Speaker 2>Should we have staves?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, this is your globe moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You're no, please, You're trying to cover for glove like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not an all all all timer. Okay, the Free

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<v Speaker 2>Dictionary says staves is not a known English word.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I grant you that way with staves, continue as

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<v Speaker 1>you should have stuck with Globe. You should have just

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<v Speaker 1>planted your flag. I forgot where I was going.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, new college football staffs in place, but so like,

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<v Speaker 2>for an example, Pete Kwakowski is a new defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>for Texas, but he's part of a new staff for Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>so that counts. So what we're going to do is

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go back and forth and draft I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, eight, ten, twelve coaches, however many it takes

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<v Speaker 2>to fill out a show, and we are going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is just in terms of not the best

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<v Speaker 2>hire at offensive or defensive coordinator, and all due respect

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<v Speaker 2>to special teams coordinators, but we're focusing on offense and defense,

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<v Speaker 2>not the best. So there are guys who are clearly

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<v Speaker 2>a Marcus Freeman. Going from Cincinnati to Notre Dame feels

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<v Speaker 2>like a no brainer. I want to approach this in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of improvement, in terms of looking at a unit

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<v Speaker 2>that was so woeful or a team that was so

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<v Speaker 2>woeful or disappointing that they needed to bring in new staves.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard me, staves, New staves, you say, Mario, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's it's fine. No, just just take your own stabs.

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<v Speaker 2>Steer INtime, steer into it, or need to overhaul a

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<v Speaker 2>specific unit, and I want the degree of improvement. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're just predicting. We're just saying, Okay, this team hired

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<v Speaker 2>this new coordinator. My number one overall pick is this

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<v Speaker 2>guy because I believe what he can do with this

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<v Speaker 2>unit will be more pronounced in terms of improvement than

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<v Speaker 2>any of these other guys with these other units. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the metric by which we're drafting offensive new offensive

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<v Speaker 2>and defensive coordinators. They don't have to be an addition

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<v Speaker 2>to an existing staff, can be part of an all

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<v Speaker 2>new staff as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're talking about is essentially value over replacement

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator the Vork if you will, I will absolutely say Vork, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to play that game momentarily. Before we do, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we should just get this out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>We said it as we came on the air here,

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<v Speaker 1>But are you gonna get your big pipes back? By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm taking it easy this offseason, okay, breaking now,

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<v Speaker 1>taking it taking it easy, right now? Okay. Jeff Long.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Long is out as the Kansas Athletic director. This,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is only a couple of days after they

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<v Speaker 1>parted ways with previous football coach Les Miles. Looks like here.

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<v Speaker 1>An official announcement is scheduled for later today. As we

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<v Speaker 1>record on Wednesday, Kansas has called a meeting of its

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<v Speaker 1>own staff. There's that word again. Yeah, Long has declined

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<v Speaker 1>further comment at this time. Look, there there was an

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<v Speaker 1>article that you sent me from her friend Jason Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>that pretty much called Jeff Long out for failing miserably

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<v Speaker 1>and continuing to be gainfully employed. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily dig into Jeff Loong's past, but I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that essentially hitching your wag into Less Miles at this

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<v Speaker 1>latter stage in his career, maybe with some skeletons in

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<v Speaker 1>his own closet, maybe not the wisest move.

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<v Speaker 2>What I enjoy about the whole concept of Jeff Long

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<v Speaker 2>and Jason Kirk illustrated this very well.

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<v Speaker 1>It was for Slate right.

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<v Speaker 2>Where he wrote Lapies was it was like Jeff Long

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<v Speaker 2>hires known dirt bag Bobby Patrino. Bobby Patrino turns out

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<v Speaker 2>to be a dirt bag, brings in John L. Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>It goes horribly, goes to Kansas and brings in Brett

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<v Speaker 2>Bieloma because Brett Bielima wrote him a nice letter once

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<v Speaker 2>the Bobby Patrino thing went down at Arkansas and goes

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<v Speaker 2>to Kansas where he brings in. Eventually it has found

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<v Speaker 2>out known dirtbag Les Miles alleged dirt bag, I suppose,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's a very specific way of hiring coaches

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<v Speaker 2>that basically never works out in the long term that

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Long can be convinced to say, maybe this guy though,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Long was the friendly face behind the BCS Playoff

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<v Speaker 1>committee for a couple of years too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was there was the BCS and then the

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<v Speaker 2>College Football Playoff making fun of stabs and yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>was the original chairman of the committee. I talked about it,

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm looking for and the like. So he's out.

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<v Speaker 2>I am hopeful, hopeful, And I don't know who Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>should hire, because I think it's just kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>doomed place until proven otherwise. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's an administrative buy in, you know, if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>money thing, whatever it is, it's I hope they hire

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<v Speaker 2>somebody create of inventive, well liked by people in the

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<v Speaker 2>athletic administration. World to run the athletic department because it's

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<v Speaker 2>still a major, major forces in basketball and that matters,

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<v Speaker 2>and that person is able to hire with his and

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<v Speaker 2>the good judgment of everybody involved in the hiring process,

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<v Speaker 2>a good college football coach who makes sense for a

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic rebuild. So I yeah, trusting Jeff Long to make

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<v Speaker 2>this next hire seem like who would be the most

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Long hire at this point? Like who is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>He would he hire Kevin someone? Would he hire Houston Nutt?

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<v Speaker 2>Would he hire a Bowden? Like It's something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>It's something on that level. Yeah, So yeah, hope it

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<v Speaker 2>works out for Kansas. I mean, I it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>we're piling on. It sounds like I'm piling on. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's never fun when a team is just woefully incompetent.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a fun thing to say, oh, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to worry about any of these teams playing Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>in the Big Twelve because it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>an entertaining game. And occasionally there are surprisingly entertaining games

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<v Speaker 2>against say TCU in Texas these past few years, but

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<v Speaker 2>largely to just fully ignore a team at a major

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<v Speaker 2>conference is I mean it's just I'll speak for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a bummer.

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<v Speaker 1>We got anything else in the news department that jumped

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<v Speaker 1>out at you for now? Not especially? Okay, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>cover more when we do the show next Tuesday. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the interim, why don't we get to why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we get to our game? Here? So we are drafts.

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<v Speaker 1>We are drafting staves today. We're not doing staffs. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just coordinators. But I like where you're going. We're drafting

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<v Speaker 1>staves and we are looking for value over replacement coordinators.

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<v Speaker 1>So in front of us, we've got two links, both

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<v Speaker 1>from our friends over at FootballScoop dot com where they

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<v Speaker 1>track such things. Coordinator hires, big time, coordinator hires offense defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start with one.

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<v Speaker 2>Who gets the first pick? Who gets the first pick?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh all right, well here let me. I'm gonna flip

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<v Speaker 1>a coin, flip something. Tell me what you call heads

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<v Speaker 1>your tails? Tell me one count to three, call it

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<v Speaker 1>call it now heads? Heads?

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<v Speaker 2>It is heads? It is okay, uh, with the first

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<v Speaker 2>overall pick. In terms of pure improvement, I'm gonna go with,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much that under the wire. Continue right

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<v Speaker 2>under the wire. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>Deronte Jones LSU LSU LSU defensive coordinator based on how

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<v Speaker 2>LSU has recruited and purely based on the depths to

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<v Speaker 2>which this defense fell in twenty twenty under Bo Polini.

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<v Speaker 2>I am under the impression and that merely the average

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<v Speaker 2>performance from everybody on this on this defense, the average

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<v Speaker 2>effort and improvement with the benefit of more springtap practice,

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<v Speaker 2>more summer workouts, more fall camp. I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>roll with Deronte Jones making a large jump with this

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<v Speaker 2>LSU defense. They hire I think a new defensive line

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<v Speaker 2>coach or Andre Carter from cal Way back when oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course their new defensive line coach, Jets, they have

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<v Speaker 2>a new linebackers coach, and certainly issues on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the back part of this defense. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>them get lit up, especially in the first part of

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<v Speaker 2>that season of the twenty twenty season, So I think

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<v Speaker 2>things get short up with Deronte Jones. He has he

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<v Speaker 2>was a recommendation from Dave Randa. He coached with a

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<v Speaker 2>rand I believe at Wisconsin he was with the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 2>His background is in the secondary and so in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of I for coaching talent, both spanning the NFL and

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<v Speaker 2>college game and you know, being some part some branch

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<v Speaker 2>and the Dave I Randa Tree. I think this ship

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<v Speaker 2>will get righted. I think there will be energy infused

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<v Speaker 2>into this defense that was sorely needed and Bobolini was

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<v Speaker 2>clearly not the answer. So I think we are we

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<v Speaker 2>are due for a bounce back, a progression to wear,

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<v Speaker 2>not a regression to the mean, but a progression to

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<v Speaker 2>the average place where LSU should generally be given the

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<v Speaker 2>talent on hand. Given the major new quarterbacks in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback movements in the SEC West, places like Alabama, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Auburn has Mike Bobba. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you'll draft him or I'll draft him. But a new

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator at Auburn A and M's moving on to

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<v Speaker 2>a new quarterback almost should be very dangerous. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a pretty good year to get the ship righted.

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<v Speaker 1>In Baton Rouge, Okay, I'm going as my first pick,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go Mike Yoursitch, interesting Homer, Homer, Homer, big time

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<v Speaker 1>homer pick here, Mike yoursich Is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's you. Is it You're Sitch or you're

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<v Speaker 2>sick I.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe I looked this up a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>and it's your sitch, okay, And at this point if

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and I'm just going to go with it anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we do now on the show. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. But Mike Eusitch from neighboring Ohio went

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<v Speaker 1>to California University of Pennsylvania, which is in the western

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<v Speaker 1>part of the state, has bounced around a couple places, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he was obviously at Oklahoma State, Ohio, State Texas. More

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<v Speaker 1>recently it is yoursitch.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, your sitch did a quick fact check.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it right, thank you. Has some ties to Shippensburg,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also smaller school in state of Pennsylvania. So

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<v Speaker 1>now coming back to the Great State of PA and

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<v Speaker 1>I like this move for a couple of reasons. First

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, we talked about James Franklin seemingly having a

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<v Speaker 1>quick hook to get rid of Kirk Shiaka, friend of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Kirk absolutely of course doesn't know it, but

0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.440
<v Speaker 1>he is doesn't know it, but he is so didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it was working out with Shiraka and now

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<v Speaker 1>goes to usage. What I like about this move is

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<v Speaker 1>that Usich has coached himself a pretty good quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>his day. I feel like he's someone who can bring

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to that position grouping at Penn State, And frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a position grouping that has the most questions for

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<v Speaker 1>this team moving forward in twenty twenty. So I like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you're bringing in a guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>coach quarterbacks before, who knows how to run an up tempo,

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<v Speaker 1>high flying offense. I don't necessarily blame it all on

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Shiraka last year. I don't think Sean Clifford is

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<v Speaker 1>the answer was the answer at quarterback. I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>go in a different direction this year, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>starting over with a guy of Usich's prowess at that

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator position. The thing is, and here's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think you number two overall pick. Yes, here's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think you wrinkled your brow. If I look at like

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<v Speaker 1>SP plus rankings, Penn State's offense, by comparison last year

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<v Speaker 1>was not necessarily the worst offense in the world. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking a half team. We're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a frustrating team.

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<v Speaker 2>To say they weren't a half team because they were

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<v Speaker 2>just a team that was at best average, they were

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<v Speaker 2>sixtieth and points per drive on offense, forty seventh on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was not one side of the ball that

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<v Speaker 2>was dramatically better than.

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<v Speaker 1>The They were frustrating is what they were. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he gives them a lot of lyft, especially at

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<v Speaker 1>that quarterback position. So I'm going to go with him

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<v Speaker 1>as my number two overall pick. Homer pick.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a terrible pick. Great, yes, and it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay because if nothing else, I have proven myself

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<v Speaker 2>to be wrong a lot I did. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was my quarterback for a dramatically improved Penn State. It's

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<v Speaker 2>either going to be Sean Clifford will Levis laugh now

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been a better answer, or it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be somebody with essentially no playing time or a

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<v Speaker 2>true freshman or something like that. And so it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to imagine, even with the improvement that we saw at

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<v Speaker 2>skill positions, when the younger guys started getting more touches

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<v Speaker 2>near the end of that season, near the end of

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<v Speaker 2>last year, I just if I'm going to see a

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<v Speaker 2>dramatically improved offense. I mean, I heard you say hope,

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<v Speaker 2>like five and a half times, so it's a dice roll.

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<v Speaker 2>You might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting all dice rolls. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the town level is high enough at LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>That and the fact that they looked like they did

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<v Speaker 2>and I know the players are different, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a senior laid and upperclassmen laden team two years ago

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<v Speaker 2>when LSU won the national championship. But the recruiting has

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<v Speaker 2>been so high and defense is so much more about

0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 2>effort to me and just buy in that if early

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<v Speaker 2>on in the season you have a group of guys

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<v Speaker 2>on defense, starters on defense, rotation, guys that are just

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<v Speaker 2>not bought in and don't feel prepared, the season can

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<v Speaker 2>away from you quickly. I think you can get buy

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<v Speaker 2>in from an offense, but if you don't have a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how much it actually matters. And so, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's real, pretty serious spot. I think Penn State is in.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's okay, It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>To be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, you're up, all right, the pick is in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should we should rotate, by the way,

0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.280
<v Speaker 2>rotate like our first two. My first pick was a

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<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator in yours was an offensive today. I'll next, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my next one is going to be offense. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go grimey at Baylor. Jeff Grimes, all right, continue new

0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator. Baylor has interesting guys on offense. And we

0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.679
<v Speaker 2>know the problem with Baylor. I mean, it's been largely

0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.480
<v Speaker 2>rooted in either not having playmakers or trying to run

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<v Speaker 2>an offense behind a pretty terrible offensive line. Charlie Brewer

0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 2>was running for his life these past few years. Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Grimes comes in having called the number two points per

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<v Speaker 2>drive offense last year at BYU. Has an offensive line background,

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<v Speaker 2>which doesn't necessari mean anything if you don't have good

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<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman. But I do like that background. I like

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<v Speaker 2>how creative BYU was. It was a lot of RPO stuff,

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.439
<v Speaker 2>which is an offense that should be able to find

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.280
<v Speaker 2>any team free yards if you can teach a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think there's talent there betweens what Zeno

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and Bohannan. I know they have some interesting guys there.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't work out with Larry Fedora. I think the

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Baylor defense will largely put the Baylor offense in a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good position after a promising first year under Dave Randa.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally see a coordinator with a mustache, and I

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<v Speaker 2>see a coordinator who not only am I going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a very difficult time not calling Frank Grimes from

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:44.719
<v Speaker 2>The Simpsons If you remember that episode, look at You,

0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:49.679
<v Speaker 2>you went to Space, You're eating lobster. He calls himself

0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Grimey on Twitter, so I can always call him Grimey.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that the year two improvement will be

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat pronounced. There's something about me that actually likes when

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<v Speaker 2>you have the marriage between a new coordinator and a

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<v Speaker 2>new starting quarterback, as if somebody doesn't need to relearn

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 2>how to operate an offense in game that they are

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<v Speaker 2>just everybody's starting on the same page. Now, it's still

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<v Speaker 2>the infancy to call back to a previous show of

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<v Speaker 2>the Dave Randa era, But I think there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a floor jump for Baylor's offense that as I

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<v Speaker 2>look right now, Baylor's offense and points per drive a

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<v Speaker 2>d analytic metric that I enjoy one to twelve, So

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<v Speaker 2>lot of room for a pronounced vork from the Baylor Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go with griming. I mean, look, Zach

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson's going to be a top what five pick in

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the NFL Draft right hard to say. Well, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he'll do for Baylor what he did for BYU, But

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<v Speaker 2>he's been around major college football, Auburn, LSU. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>good about Jeff Grimes and a creative enough, efficient enough

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:59.439
<v Speaker 2>offense at Baylor that they are going to ascend at

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<v Speaker 2>least somewhat dramatically.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I do like it. Okay, what do

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you know about Vandy this coming year? Dan room for improvement? Yeah,

0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Vork potential there.

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I would say so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go way off the radar with Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Minter defensive new defensive coordinator for Vanderbilt, the youngest looking

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 1>coach I've ever seen. He was previously the Ravens defensive

0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>backs coach, and he is going to replace ted Roof

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:42.680
<v Speaker 1>much the way I have a negative relationship with John

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Donovan forma act offensive member of the stave for Penn

0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Statebilt and Vanderbilt. Yeh, ted Roof. Ted Roof also has

0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:01.639
<v Speaker 1>some deep roots into the Penn State community, and last

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>year his defense or Vandy was terrible. Now I understand

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>it's Vandy, I understands some the easiest place to do

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 1>anything from a football standpoint, but they were really bad

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and Ted Ruff sort of has a track record, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he definitely does, not really being that good of a

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator. So I think there's a lot of room

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<v Speaker 1>for provement with jesse Minter comes over from the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>starting anew with Clark Lee, also a defensive minded coach,

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:32.439
<v Speaker 1>someone who knows Vanderbilt wanted that job, clearly is going

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to be working very closely with jesse Minter to try

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.959
<v Speaker 1>and build this defense up. If my numbers are correct here,

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure what your d analytics have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>is one hundred and sixth in the nation in SP

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 1>plus defense. Their marginal efficiency on defense last year was

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<v Speaker 1>one twenty seven. There aren't a whole lot of numbers

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:57.160
<v Speaker 1>here that are in the green. Average third down distance

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is the only one, and Blitz's per drop back is

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the second. Everything else stinks defensively, so a lot of

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>room for upper mobility working with a defensive coach.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was at Georgia State as a defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>what did he do with the Ravens defensive backs coach

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 2>dB secondary coach? Okay, because what Michigan also plundered the

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 2>staff of the Baltimore Ravens with Mike McDonald, right, Mike McDonald,

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 2>YEAHO different, different, Mike mcdifferent, guys, but as far as

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>we know, yeah, banking on a Vanderbilt defense to take

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 2>a big jump. Now you have the Clark Lee element

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to having your head coach, but we had the Derek

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Mason element. He called a ton of really good defenses

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>for Stanford, and Vanderbilt's defense at you know, early on

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 2>in Derek Mason's tenure was interesting. I don't know if

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 2>really strong is the correct way to describe it, but

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 2>definitely interesting against some lesser opponents.

0:24:59.600 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the strength of Vanderbilt moving forward, knowing that

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the talent isn't fully there right now, is the fact

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 2>that we have what a full new staff at South Carolina,

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 2>a new offensive coordinator at Kentucky. Georgia's offense should be good.

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 2>New quarterback at Florida Tennessee feels like it's full full

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>square one down to the studs. So there are similar

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>boats in the SEC East. Now Missoo should have a

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty nice offense. We assume we'll see, but's it's not

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 2>the worst time to be working in a new defense.

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>A new team whatever, as most teams it seems like,

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 2>are in some way rebuilding or refreshing and spring cleaning

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC East. So I don't hate this pick.

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know enough about Jesse Minter to know

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel about his potential in the short term.

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 1>So all right, huge Jesse guy right here entire. I

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>always claim to be always you know, the Minter Cast

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<v Speaker 1>coming soon to your favorite podcast app. Where are we

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<v Speaker 1>going next?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>You're up?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the pick is in and I need to select

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 2>a defensive coordinator. I'm tempted to go in one direction,

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>although I don't want to give my hand away. Actually,

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to go with my pick. Indeed, it's

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Tim de Ruter at Oregon. I'm gonna go with my

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 2>homework pick here because of the talent level, because of

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback situation of the opponents on Oregon schedule. Tim

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>de Ruter season defensive coordinator.

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 2>He called a really, really good cal defense and I

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 2>believe twenty eighteen and his specialty is linebackers. If you

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>remember Evan Weaver all over the place and known to

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 2>be especially strong in terms of confusing opposing quarterbacks. You

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>always did well against Mike Leach and the air raid.

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 2>So there is something about Tim de Ruter now moving

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>on from Cal to a team. And I know Cal

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 2>has has had NFL caliber defensive backs, but Oregon has

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>recruited extraordinarily well on the defensive side of the ball,

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and they have two five star linebackers they've recorded, They've

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 2>recruited corner exceedingly well. Safety is a bit green and

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>a question still right now, but they've gotten pretty deep

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.239
<v Speaker 2>on this defense. They're good up front and when this

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Oregon defense is at its best, and was at its

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 2>best under Andy Avlos these past couple of years, they

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.199
<v Speaker 2>were not allowing a ton and we saw it in

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>the USC game to win the Pac twelve championship, just

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 2>completely swarming USC upfront and getting after Keaton Slovas. I

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>think Tim de Ruter will be a welcome edition Oregon

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>last year because of some down games finished. I'm seeing

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>right now in the points per Drive on defense, it

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>looks to be seventy third nationally in twenty twenty, and

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, a very small sample size. I think they

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>it's an easy move up into the top twenty, top twenty,

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>excuse me, top thirty. Like in the twenties. I think

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you can have a pronounced improvement there. So Tim de

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Ruter the pick to me Oregon not needing to fix

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 2>a defense necessarily.

0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>That was going to be very good. See, that was

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be my question much the way. It's not

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.959
<v Speaker 1>fully in the spirit, but they do. But it was

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>a defense that was below average last year. They just

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't fire their defensive coordinator. He moved on to a

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>head coaching job, but still a defense overall that needed

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to be ironed out a bit. Okay, seventy third below average? Fair,

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that's fair? Okay, Yeah, well I like the higher as well.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm with you. So, okay, what do I

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>have to pick? Offensive coordinator?

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 2>You have to pick?

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>You just picked Jesse Minter, longtime friend of yoursally huge.

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Give me an offensive coordinator, a spring cleaning spring cleaning coordinator.

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Vork I am so tempted to go with this pick.

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about either of these guys. Maybe

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>we could talk it through, but I'm gonna do it.

0:28:53.360 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I just have to. Okay, because LSU has hired the

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>combo of Jake Pets and DJ Mangus, which really does

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>sound like it could be an ed m band, Pete's.

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 2>And Mangus DJ Mangus, Yeah, I mean, let's hope things

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>work out better than you know, any sort of involvement

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>with DJ Diurkin, so I'm good with it. Or I

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 2>mean DJ Benga had a decent tenth man career for

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>the Lakers. If you remember DJ Qualls, if you remember,

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 2>was he road trip? I believe it was a roads Yeah.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>DJ Tanner's different.

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>D Yeah, D just goes by D. Pete and Mangus

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>could also be a drive time sports talk show. Absolutely.

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Steve Ansminger retired and ed Orgeron is now I think

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to recapture the old Joe Brady magic. And you

0:29:54.960 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>see this elsewhere in college football. It's not just LSU the.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>It was also what a Scott Lenehan situation last year

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 2>as well for LSU.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Right he was the passing game coordinator and they decided

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to move on from him. So Pete and Magas were

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>both added from the Carolina Panthers staff and they worked

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>under Joe Brady, who was formerly the LSU offensive coordinator.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Obviously part of that once in a generation national championship

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>season that led Joe Burrow to the number one overall,

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>pick LS was really bad last year. They were really

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>bad last year on a number of different fronts. What

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna tell me they weren't they weren't as bad.

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's harsh.

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're still talking about a team that destroyed

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina with essentially a first time quarterback and with

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 2>weird circumstances to beat Florida on the road, like really bad.

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Their defense was bad, but I think they were okay,

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 2>which for LSU was really bad. But I don't think

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>they were a really bad team.

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>They had their issues at the quarterback spot, I mean,

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and they bounced around a little bit because yep, obviously

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>they had the injury to Miles Brannan. We saw TJ.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Finley for a while, We saw Max Johnson eventually take

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>over that spot and do really well towards the end

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of the year. So you know, they've obviously got enough

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>to work with. I think the thing with LSU, and

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I know something that's driven LSU fans crazy forever is

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>maximizing that talent, getting the most out of it the

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>way they did the year that Joe Burrow was there.

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>But they were just incredibly effective on offense. So I

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>think it has nowhere to go but up. Last year

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>may have been a weird year. I like starting over.

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I like kind of retooling the entire STAB, both on

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>offense and defense and trying to bring some new blood in.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't I guess the risk here is that are

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>they trying to find the next Joe Brady's.

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's fine, I mean you can that's a good

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 2>search if you can find. If you are finding the

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 2>next Joe Brady, you are finding a crazy talented coordinator.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>They just need to get better in terms of their

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>efficiency the quarterback. Notwithstanding, this is a team that just

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>look had to replace a lot and had Jamar Chase

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>opt out, and it just was a tough year to

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>try and build a new after again a once in

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a generation season. So efficiency is I think going to

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>be paramount, getting more bang for the buck if they

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>can do that, even if it's not quite to their

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>what twenty nineteen levels, which seems impossible, any step up

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>in terms of efficiency I think is a pretty big deal.

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>So let's go Petez and Mangus because I like the

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>name and I get two for one.

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, when you look at what LSU did,

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Elsie I have it as eighty third on offensive points

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>per drive, so a ton of room for improvement. The

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>quarterback room isn't a great place. Miles Brennan, before he

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>got hurt, was plenty good to be the quarterback of

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a winning SEC team. He was accurate enough, he did

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>not turn the ball over that much. He was totally fine,

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 2>if not good. He just followed up Joe Brady, excuse me,

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow. And that's a tall task, and you get

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>hurt and you have to start relying on green dudes

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 2>like TJ. Finley and Max Johnson. I kind of really

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 2>liked Max Johnson. I thought there was some zaz to

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>his game, kind of athletic, made plays when things broke down.

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I liked Max Johnson. I don't know, he just seems

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>fascinating to me. I guess so yeah. I mean as

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>far as Pets and Mangus, obviously younger guys and you know,

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>experience in that system, experience with Joe Brady with the.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Panthers, I like to pick a lot.

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I think even an average LSU offense, given the talent

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>they have at quarterback, given what they bring back at receiver. Yeah,

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean they can immediately get back to be a

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 2>top twenty in terms of this metric. Yeah, I think

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 2>that's a great pick from you.

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>They have all the tools that they need. Yeah, they

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>have all the tools that they need to come in

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>there and make an impact. Again, I think it's risky

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to even have in the back of your mind that

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you're getting the next Joe Brady Joe Brady's But sure,

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate going out and trying to bring some new

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>blood in and effectively effectively reboot.

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 2>It's a really good thing to me. It's a really

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 2>good thing when a head coach goes out and goes

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 2>to people he knows and trusts and say, this guy

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>isn't your offensive coordinator, or like, you don't have an

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>opening offensive coordinator, but if you did, who would you target,

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and saying these two guys, this guy, this guy whatever,

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Piets and Mangus. I mean, if that works out, it's

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>always going to be better to me to get a

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 2>reference of a guy you don't necessarily know, but say

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>to yourself, the recommendations, the references are there, and the

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:02.959
<v Speaker 2>track records seems to be building. Sure, because the Polini thing,

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the Linehan thing, there is something that reeks of Okay,

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I did it this way. I'm feeling very confident that

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>my guys are the way to go. That's that's how

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>ed Oorzron found Joe Brady. I'm sort of all over

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 2>the place there. But he went to Sean Payton, and

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.479
<v Speaker 2>he went to Joe Morehead. These guys that Joe Brady

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>had worked with him, like, what do you think about

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 2>this guy? And they like, across the board, that is

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 2>the smartest guy in the room. So if Joe Brady

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>is giving this recommendation, it seems worthwhile to kick those tires.

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I like, you're up to pick what a

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>defensive guy?

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I just picked Tim de Ruder. I'm due for

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 2>offense since this one is tough for me. This one

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.479
<v Speaker 2>is really tough. But I guess if we're looking for vork,

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>if we're looking for room for improvement, I'm going to

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 2>select the team with the number ninety two points per

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:01.320
<v Speaker 2>drive offense in twenty twenty, that's Kentucky hiring Leo Cohen. Okay,

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Liam Cohen from of course, ty, if you're going to

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 2>hire somebody, if they're not if they don't come recommended

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 2>by Joe Brady, they better come recommended by Sean mcvay'

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and that's exactly what Liam Cohen is, somebody who's recommended

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 2>by Sean McVay to Mark Stoops at Kentucky. The problem

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 2>with Kentucky right now is the quarterback position. I mean,

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 2>it could be Joey Gatewood, it could be Will Levis.

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.760
<v Speaker 2>There's a freshman in there who I think is probably

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 2>better built for a more traditional offense than a more

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>running offense, which Will Levis and Joey Gatewood were counted

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>on for their legs a little bit more, it seems,

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>in the past, than their ability to scan the field

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and make plays with their arms. So I'm going to

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 2>go with Kentucky. I'm gonna go with the experience at receiver,

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 2>even though it was not a popping offense. I believe

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Chris Rodriguez is back. This is a program that has

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>developed offensive lineman and you know, if I'm going to

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 2>be like you know every other person hiring offensive coaches

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 2>and roll with the Sean McVay tree, so be it.

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm going with Liam Cohen. I'm going with Kentucky for

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>similar reasons. I mean, we have rebuilding Tennessee, South Carolina Vanderbilt,

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 2>so if Kentucky's offense and quarterback position rises to consistently competent.

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>And I like Terry Wilson, but he was sort of

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>a three to four yard passer at a time. He

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>was not really a big downfield guy. So if they

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>can get that downfield element within that offense.

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, this is.

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Sort of how I ragged on you for selecting Mike.

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Rzich, saying I was going to be my next point.

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>The quarterback position is not anywhere near settled, but yeah,

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm going to roll with that Situationally, I think

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 2>it's Bo Allen. I don't know if it's Bo or

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>b Eau, it's both something. I think it's Bo Allen,

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>who is the promising younger quarterback, so because of the

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.360
<v Speaker 2>skill talent. Oh and what doesn't Wandale Robinson enter the

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>fold for Kentucky. I believe he does so an interesting

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 2>weapon there in a way that they haven't had, I

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 2>guess since Lin Bowden a couple of years ago, all

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the way back in twenty nineteen. I'm going to go

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 2>with Kentucky and Liam Cohn.

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I played the draft chime, but I'll

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 1>play it for me. Play it now, Yeah, I like

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that pick. I also appreciate that you've left Don Brown

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>waiting for so this is an interesting conversation. Continue, Yeah,

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>waiting for me in the green room. Don Brown comes

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>over from Michigan, longtime defensive coordiator for Michigan at least

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:41.720
<v Speaker 1>since the Horriball era. He is now going to Tucson

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 1>with Jedfish. So I like the hire by Jedfish. Jedfish was,

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>per what we understand, kind of preferred by some at

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the university, but maybe not everyone, so a mixed hire

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>in some regresident loves him, president loves him. Arizona.

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe we.

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Should rely more on what the university presidents think versus

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>athletic directors and light of the Jeff Long stuff. But

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that aside, Jed Fish is the guy. He went out

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and he hired I think a known commodity in Don Brown.

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Don Brown, I was reading, gave some interesting comments to

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a local paper when asked about what went wrong at

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Michigan and you know, I mean he'd been there a while,

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>but cited COVID the pandemic for lack of practice in

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the spring, talked about some of the upper classmen that

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>he had at Michigan, but the lack of depth at

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>defense and how you know it just was diminishing returns

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 1>there over the last couple of years, and it sort

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of culminated in a goofy year where you couldn't quite

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>do everything that you needed to. I think he has

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to be better, just has to be better than what

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Arizona had previously. Now here's where I do think he

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>gets interesting. Had from a friend of the solid verbal

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that was gonna be my point. Paul Rhodes was the

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>former defensive coordinator who for a long time has been

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good defensive mind in and around college football.

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 2>It's been a minute, it's been a minute, it's been.

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>A minute, but he at least has that reputation. I

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like Don Brown. Don Brown's an older gentleman, He's been

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>around the game for a long time. I like the

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 1>move for him to go out to Arizona where they

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>have not had a defense in forever. I certainly hope

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 1>that Jedfish makes that a priority, and I think Don

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Brown's a good guy to help him do that. So

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>they got to be better than where they were Dan

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>they just they have to be better than where they were.

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>They were dreadful dreadful in every defensive category last year.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't find any green, any green on this chart,

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.240
<v Speaker 1>so it has to improve. If we're talking strictly about Vork,

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>there's certainly a lot of potential to move up. So

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of a Vandy esque pick here with

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, certainly Don Brown doesn't have the name recognition

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.479
<v Speaker 1>of Jesse Minter, but he's up there.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Arizona finished one hundred and twenty first in deventsive points

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 2>per drive allowed, culminating in what was seventy to seven

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 2>or something against ASU to finish out the twenty twenty season,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 2>and it just it didn't work. It didn't work. The

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>problem to me with Arizona and Don Brown is, I

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 2>mean Arizona's hiring discount Don. If Don Brown were in

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>high demand, he would have gone to somewhere bigger than Tucson,

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.800
<v Speaker 2>which is kind of college football exile right now, middle

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>of the desert, away from the bright lights of college football.

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Hope Jed Fish gets it going in Tucson for the Cats.

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, fun environment when things are when things are

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:55.240
<v Speaker 2>going well. But I always hesitate with grabbing a guy

0:41:55.800 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 2>coming down from success to a media and out was

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>very strange.

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:01.399
<v Speaker 1>We know this.

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>This is the the unspoken disclaimer at the top of

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 2>every show in which we talk about twenty twenty games

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 2>in the season. But it's a pretty strong quarterback division

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Keaton Slovas and Jaden Daniels and dtr There's there's talent there,

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and the recruiting has been so bad at Arizona that

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 2>while I'm with you in terms of Arizona's defense should

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 2>improve because there's only kind of one direction to go,

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how dramatically it can improve if the

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:34.800
<v Speaker 2>talent isn't there. The talent was absolutely there at Michigan,

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 2>less so at Boston College, where he had excellent defenses.

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:41.800
<v Speaker 2>He is unquestionably somebody with an incredible defensive track record.

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I just wonder if he can be that extreme chopped

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator like we'd like to talk about top chef

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:53.240
<v Speaker 2>versus chopped, iron chef versus chopped you know, the greatest ingredients.

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Whatever players are not food. But still I hesitate. I

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 2>hesitate here in terms of year one, I think it

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 2>could be like ninety nine and there's no appreciable difference

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 2>off to our eyes week over week watching Arizona football.

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I hesitated. I like the pick because

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 2>he does also have a mustache.

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I need the mustache.

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Also, majority of his experiences in what the Midwest and

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the Northeast that worries me a little bit too. So

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 2>we'll see. We will absolutely see. So I need to

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.320
<v Speaker 2>go from what Liam Cohen to a defensive coordinator?

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Correct, all right?

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 2>This one, I like, I'm going Pete Quakowski at.

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Your boy you love he can't shut up about Pete.

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's me. I talked Pete Quitkowski all the time

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 2>co defensive coordinator at Washington now Texas forty ninth, I'm

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 2>seeing right now a lot of miss tackles. If you

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 2>watched Texas football last year, the effort, the injuries. Strange

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>season for sure, But I think the Pete Quitkowski hire

0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>could be super interesting because those Washington teams he both coordinators,

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 2>and he coordinated and co coordinated with Jimmy Lake before

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Lake became head coach. You know, the two really

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 2>deep safeties that Washington team was happy to let you

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 2>nickel and dime them, but they were not getting beat deep.

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 2>They developed a ton of real equality players in the secondary.

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Even though Peoklkowski's experience is largely upfront. I think that

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 2>specific defense paired with an unquestioned talent level. I know

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 2>secondary took some lumps, and perhaps some of those blue

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 2>chip recruits didn't quite live up to their potential these

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 2>past few years, But up front, I kind of love

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 2>what Texas had. Now I'm not being seduced into your

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, Texas's back thing, but I think the job

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that Qwikowski has at Texas is a pretty quick fix.

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm not fully in love with the big twelve top

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 2>to bottom at quarterback and on offense. I think talent wise,

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 2>effort wise, I think it's going to go up. Obviously,

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 2>there was a year of Chris ash last year after

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.919
<v Speaker 2>Todd Orlando was let go, so that sort of changed

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 2>with a short season, a weird season. I'm going to

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>go that full refresh being a quality, quality thing for

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>the Texas defense. I think they can go from what

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 2>did I say, forty ninth yep. I think I've got

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to make sure, yeah, forty ninth. I think they can

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>get into eighteen to twenty five somewhere there pretty quickly

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 2>with him.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I forgot to play it again. By the way,

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I apologize, please play it now, Okay. So, I think

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>this is probably our last, like one or two picks here,

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>since we're running a bit long in the tooth. I

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to throw out Dan Enos at Maryland.

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Whoa okay, sell me.

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>This is a weird pick, I understand, and I am

0:45:52.600 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>trading on dan Enos's ties to the tongue of Iloa family. Essentially, yeah,

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 1>so flashes he did. Scotty Montgomery was formerly the offensive

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>coordinator part of ways. A few days after, you know,

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 1>after the season, and then they announced that Danny Noos

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was coming aboard. Dannys has had a couple stops along

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the way. I remember, you know, obviously his time at Alabama.

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>He was supposed to be kind of like the savior

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of the Miami offense. That didn't work out at all,

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>so mixed bag, but still kind of has a good

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>name to trade on. And did he have I think so?

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, whose name Dan la Fever's. I'm just wondering.

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I just want to know. I'm just here asking questions

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 2>time about these stabs.

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't ruin this for me?

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't he knows the guy who just left Alabama without

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.919
<v Speaker 2>telling Micksaban was leaving like he was supposed to show

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 2>up to a morning guy.

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I just said in terms of.

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he refutes that story, but that is a

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 2>story about him at all. I'm taking the Miami job.

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>In terms of being a football mind. Yeah, the Maryland

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>offense wasn't terrible last year. I think it was better

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>than expected. But I think if Taliah is going to

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>be the guy moving forward, and given that Danny Nose

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 1>has some familiarity there with with the family, I just

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a pretty good spot to be in.

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>There's always room for improvement at Maryland, at least in

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the early going now under the Mike Loxley. Mike Loxley tenure.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, Uh, we know he loves the DMV. We

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>know he can recruit the DMV. That's not who were

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you drafting though? No, But I feel like it's another situation,

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:53.800
<v Speaker 1>low key, where they are going to be an increasing

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>number of tools that he has to work with. So

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>let's go dan.

0:47:57.880 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Is it is it Mike Loxley's offense?

0:47:59.560 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Though?

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Is this like it's one of those things where like

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.720
<v Speaker 2>we could I told you we can't draft Kyle Flood

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 2>because this is Steve Sarkeesian's offense at Texas. So I

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.879
<v Speaker 2>don't know the answer to that. You took, you took

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Danny Nose, So I don't know who's whose mind, whose playbook,

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 2>who's calling the plays on game day maybe hasn't even

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 2>been determined yet. But that's that's a question for me

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 2>with this pick. Also, I'm sure you have somebody in

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 2>your life like this, or solid wife Kate has somebody

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 2>in her life like this that posts a lot on

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 2>social media every so often. They post every so often

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 2>there's a new significant other. You're like, huh, I thought

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 2>she was with the guy, dark hair, kind of curly,

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 2>now a buzz cut, blonde, Okay, okay, And that is

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 2>somewhat emblematic to me of Danny Knows recently where you

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 2>just you squint a little longer at somebody who's just

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of island hopping as a coach, just just bopping

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 2>around because up not working out. Up the found out

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I was this, well gotta go somewhere new. Well, let's

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 2>see if they care. There's something to me about that

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 2>with Danny Knows, completely unfounded. But that's why I always squint.

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I squint a little bit longer at the people who

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.360
<v Speaker 2>who pop up with a new boyfriend or girlfriend or

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 2>something like that on social media every three months, just like,

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 2>why don't we why don't we let something just play

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:21.320
<v Speaker 2>out a little longer?

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Right? All right? I don't know. Always concerns me. Red

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>flag for me? Last round here, Dan, you get your

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 1>last selection?

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.720
<v Speaker 2>So who did I just take? I just took Peakwakowski?

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>So I had to go offense. Man, I really could

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 2>not find somebody. I was really hoping to get in

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 2>with both LSU sides of the ball. I do have

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:47.359
<v Speaker 2>myke Earsitch on my list. That was a late round

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 2>flyer for me. All right, man, Okay, I'm gonna go.

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>It's getting a little bit tricky here.

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go. Yeah, thank you, I'm gonna go.

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Doug Meachumcu I mean, is he a new offensive coordinator?

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was a position coast last year, and

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 2>he was an offensive coordinator many years ago for TCU.

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 2>He was promoted like.

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I think its okay?

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I have Bobo down here as a potential pick,

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.279
<v Speaker 2>and I have Chip Long at Tulane after a year

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 2>at Tennessee. Now the reason I hear you about Chip Long,

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, I looked it up, so Tulane

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 2>last year they it looks like I'm seeing forty So

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>not an awful offense. Not a ton of room for improvement.

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, Willie Fritz is gonna have his hands on

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 2>the offense. But Notre Dame's offense did make a really

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 2>nice jump about thirty spots and his I think his

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 2>first year was twenty seventeen at Notre Dame, so that

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 2>was interesting to me. I know they got a lot

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 2>better in the red zone. I can't roll with Chip

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Loong and Tulane, so I guess I'm gonna go with

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Doug Meachum, former XFL recent XFL brief coordinator. There's something

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 2>to me about an experienced quarterback. I kind of love

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Zach Evans on the ground. I think his potential is

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 2>pretty interesting to me. So if TCU is not turning

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the ball over, I think they're gonna be. They finished

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 2>sixty eighth last year, so there's room for improvement with TCU.

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not nearly as seduced by TCU as you are.

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Yet over for three years now, you keep it and

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 2>then you come back to the season, you're like they

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 2>start to and O. I think there is something about

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the younger skill guys for TCU that it's not interesting

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to me about TCU as a whole, because I still

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm still extremely mixed on Max Duggan at best, but

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad he was healthy last year and was able

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 2>to play after his scare over the summer. There's something

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 2>about experience at quarterback and those skill position players that

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 2>makes me thinking, I don't think the magic is back

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:13.240
<v Speaker 2>from twenty fourteen or anything like that, but that's gonna

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 2>be my pick that there is there is some pixie

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 2>dust in Fort Worth to be mined.

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that okay with you? Did you even consider it?

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Was he on your board?

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 1>No? No, I'm done with TCU.

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 2>You know that I'm done, No, but that I'm just

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>in terms of often who else is on your offensive

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 2>or defensive board? I had Brad Lambert Purdue. I don't

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 2>know if you want to make this pick right now. No,

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I have I think Marshall's defense.

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I looked at him, if only because he's taking

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:49.760
<v Speaker 1>over for Bob Diaco bobya oh yeah, and it's terrific

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.840
<v Speaker 1>head of hair. But I'm actually gonna go a different

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>direction here. Here we go, I am getting in on

0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the baby Ravens, Dan, That's what I'm doing. Okay, in

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 1>on the baby Ravens. You know, I'm high on Jesse Minter.

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's go the other side of the coin and go

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>with Michael McDonald oker for girl. Mike McDonald, as it were,

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.959
<v Speaker 1>he is the new defensive coordinator at Michigan, taking over

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>for Don Brown.

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 2>He's a co defensive coordinators. You get two.

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>We got Mo Linguist too. I to get Yeah, you get.

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Two for one.

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I get the full stav there staff. Yeah. Yeah, Mike

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>McDonald is thirty three years old.

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a It's not that difficult anymore, knowing

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.400
<v Speaker 2>how young coaches are that are getting hired in college,

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>successful coaches, coordinator's, position coaches, whatever. But when it's low thirties,

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 2>high twenties, as I ascend to my mid to upper thirties,

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 2>it's tougher and tougher. I told Jody with and I

0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, Michigan's new defensive coordinators thirty three. She

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 2>said he's he's nine years older than me.

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>And I said, yeah, that's it.

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.919
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, give me give me your your Mike McDonald's

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.719
<v Speaker 2>and Mo Linguist optimism.

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about either of these guys. I'm

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:16.959
<v Speaker 1>not going to pretend well, no, hold on, it's fine.

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were position coaches. In the NFL, there

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 1>were position coaches. He comes over from the Ravens, so

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Jesse Minter defensive backs coach in this case, Mike McDonald,

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a linebackers coach, had a stint before that as a

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:34.399
<v Speaker 1>defensive backs coach. By all accounts, he is a young

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:38.160
<v Speaker 1>up and comer, started coaching while he was still in

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 1>college at Georgia. Smart guy graduated from Georgia like Summa

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>cum laud and was coaching at the high school level

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years while he was still in school.

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 1>So this is he knew he wanted to do this

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to some extent, right, He knew he had this in

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the back of his mind. He got a Manny Diaz

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:58.839
<v Speaker 1>on your hands. Maybe so he he was intern with

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens. He worked his way up and obviously now

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:04.840
<v Speaker 1>got this gig with Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh, for what

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:07.719
<v Speaker 1>it's worth, probably reached out to his brother and was

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>able to get a pretty good recommendation here on what

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Mike McDonald brought to the team. To your point though

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:19.280
<v Speaker 1>about Don Brown. Doesn't Jim Harbaugh already employ one brother?

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Isn't there a Jay on the staff? I believe there's

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a Jay Harbaugh. There are so many Harbas at this point. Yeah,

0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 1>but here's here's here's the thing. There's room for improvement

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 1>on that Michigan defense for all the reasons it didn't

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>work out for Don Brown. He's the son of Jim,

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.200
<v Speaker 1>by the way, the son of Jim. Jim. Yeah, thank you.

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Say what you want about Don Brown. I think we

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:47.760
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of respect for him. We love the mustache.

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:52.640
<v Speaker 1>There has been a situation at Michigan of diminishing returns

0:55:53.400 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and so now bringing new blood. They've got talent, hopefully

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>depth is improved over a year ago. And we got

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a young guy who maybe brings some new energy to

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the side. That's all I got. I don't really, I

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know much here.

0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 2>What a fantasy thing it will probably be this year.

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Young coach brings new energy. Coach under Fordy brings new energy,

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 2>new blood news as well. If we would have done

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:26.400
<v Speaker 2>it last year, we could have done the next Joe Brady.

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, easily, easily. Now the best I mean, not

0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 2>even the best. I think two years ago Michigan's defense

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.800
<v Speaker 2>was pretty good, the top twenty five or so defense,

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and otherwise they've been kind of a top ten to

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:45.839
<v Speaker 2>fifteen unit under Don Brown. The concern for me is

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Don Brown's defense was so specific, and I know a

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 2>lot he runs a lot of things, a lot of

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I just hit my microphone. I know he runs a

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of things that a lot of teams run, but

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:57.720
<v Speaker 2>he you know, he puts his corners out on an island.

0:56:57.719 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 2>He as the specialized positions.

0:56:59.239 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Up front.

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 2>You get the viper, which I think is the you know,

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the Jabrill Peppers outside linebackers, safety hybrid, and so they're

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 2>very specific positions. And the way guys were recruited to

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 2>this defense that's now being overhauled. The good news for Michigan, well,

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it was like I said before, defense is about, you know,

0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 2>effort and buy and whatever, and that's what leads to

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 2>really strong tackling.

0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just effort.

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 2>It's just effort if you have the talent in place,

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 2>and Michigan upfront along that defensive line. Upfront, linebacker, I

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 2>now was pretty dicey. Secondary was pretty dicey last year,

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 2>but upfront, at least with Donovan Jeter, with Aiden Hutchinson.

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 2>There is there are bookends, There are interesting, big beefy

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 2>bodies to build this defense upon, and so it's a

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 2>really nice starting point. I don't know much about Mo Linguist.

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I know we bounced around college as a secondary coach

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:56.480
<v Speaker 2>for a while there and a bunch of different conferences

0:57:56.960 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 2>and then ended up I think with the Cowboys last year,

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know much about his reputation as a coach.

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like some of his defenses improved when he arrived.

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the McDonald think is interesting. I think it

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 2>was certainly time for a complete refresh of the defense

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 2>after last year and again nightmare of a year, but

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 2>it was time. It was absolutely time. And you like

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Jim Harbaugh running his uh you know,

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 2>coaching staff and his players into the ground and everybody

0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:29.640
<v Speaker 2>needing evs his stabs or just his eight his staff.

0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I am going to go with this being interesting. I mean,

0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 2>there's they finished one hundred and seventh last year in

0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 2>points allowed per drive, so the room for improvement is

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent there. And also I just pulled up

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Michigan's schedule. Do you know who Michigan plays this year.

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Can I'm going to run through it with you and

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you tell me when I get to a probably good offense. Okay, Okay,

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 2>all right, here we go. We're going to start with

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Western Michigan on September fourth.

0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Nope, I don't. I'm not a big believer right now.

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 2>And then we go to up It's self refreshing Washington

0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 2>pretty efficient last year, but I don't think Dylan Morris,

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and now that Puka Nakua, one of the receivers they

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 2>are counted on, just entered the transfer portal I think

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:14.000
<v Speaker 2>is heading to BYU. I'm not a big believer right

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 2>now in Washington Johnson offense, John Donovan offense. That game

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 2>is in ann Arbor. Next next Northern Illinois, next Rutgers,

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>next at Wisconsin. I'm not can you say right now,

0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what today March tenth, probably good Wisconsin offense. No, no, no,

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not there. I like where they at. I like

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:40.400
<v Speaker 2>where they're at running back, but otherwise at Nebraska, listen,

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm We're now into October ninth.

0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, sorry, Northwestern. Okay, Now at Michigan State Indiana maybe

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:55.520
<v Speaker 1>so Indiana is a maybe probably good November sixth, and

0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:58.360
<v Speaker 1>by the way, after that is at Penn State, maybe,

0:59:59.080 --> 1:00:03.959
<v Speaker 1>at Maryland maybe, and then Ohio State and an arbor

1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:07.479
<v Speaker 1>for sure. So are you on this podcast on March

1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the eleventh, twenty twenty one, right here, right now, predicting

1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:13.400
<v Speaker 1>eleven to one Michigan. I think that's what I'm hearing.

1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would be stupid not to. I'll be

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:21.919
<v Speaker 2>stupid not to. No, I'm just saying, situationally, if you're

1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:25.800
<v Speaker 2>looking for buy low, they've recruited I think, well to

1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:28.560
<v Speaker 2>very well. Better on offense, it seems, than defense. But

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:30.440
<v Speaker 2>all the same, they've recruited.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The schedule this year is not filled with probable killers.

1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:39.760
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, how many actual offenses are you scared

1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:41.640
<v Speaker 2>of in the Big ten at this point after what

1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>we saw last year? Not many? In Ohio State is

1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:46.840
<v Speaker 2>a new starting quarterback. He'll be good. Whoever it is,

1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:51.880
<v Speaker 2>it'll be good. So I think pieces are in place

1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:55.120
<v Speaker 2>to go from one oh seven to I don't know,

1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.480
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight. Is that crazy? Doesn't seem like it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why we take Mike McDonald Dan Okay, forgot

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McDonald, all right, So there you have it, don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget to write in It's Oliver gmail dot com or

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<v Speaker 1>by going to our website solid verbal dot com. Want

1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:17.320
<v Speaker 1>to know your thoughts. We do have a Patreon where

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>both you and I have been a lot more active lately. Yeah.

1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:24.240
<v Speaker 2>I posted a video of me making pizza dough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you posted the pizza dough video. I'm working on

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<v Speaker 1>a little podcast video. It's like, are you too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got I got a little something in the lab here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working up in all my free time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be working up something and and also been more active

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<v Speaker 1>on the discord, which is a lot of fun, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>This morning we had a light debate of what was

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<v Speaker 2>it AJ mccaren versus Who was ajmccaron versus Trace McSorley

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<v Speaker 2>or something. Okay, this is what you do in March.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is what you do. I played my

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<v Speaker 1>game on which did you watch? I did watch some.

1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I lost Rylan not good. I lost thirty one twenty

1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:10.800
<v Speaker 1>eight through an interception with nineteen seconds left against my

1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:14.320
<v Speaker 1>friend Ah gave him an easy three. I lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm sorry, Ty, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got more more on the way. We knocked

1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:25.120
<v Speaker 1>off Penn State and we got a game against app

1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:27.760
<v Speaker 1>State against Notre Dame, and then I believe that the

1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:32.200
<v Speaker 1>rivalry against Army to close out Navy. He so probably

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a one lost season if all goes well.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you please? Was this a fun show?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a fun It is okay, fun show, fun show, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fun show, just okay? Talking about stabs was fun? Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for that guy over there, my good friend Danrewbstet

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<v Speaker 1>For myself, Tie Hildebrand, thank you so much for downloading,

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<v Speaker 1>for listening, for playing along with our madness. Have yourself

1:02:56.200 --> 1:02:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a good weekend. We will catch you on the flip

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<v Speaker 1>side of the meantime. Stay solid peace. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>go any further, Danielle, I have a request, Tyler. Will

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<v Speaker 1>you drop that slinking, slithering, slathering drum and five? Ah

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<v Speaker 1>there it is hello, old friend Dan. We have two

1:03:37.480 --> 1:03:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Patriot League games, two Patriot League games to discuss. As

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Patriot League is playing football this spring.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start here with the College of the Holy Cross

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<v Speaker 1>traveling to Goodman Stadium high noon this coming Saturday to

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<v Speaker 1>square off against yours mine, the Lehigh Mountain Hawks. DA mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out of town with that accusation. Oh man, do

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<v Speaker 2>I love gambling against the engineers, especially especially.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the Crosssaders have been in the weight room.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're staying late after practice. You know they're

1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:19.280
<v Speaker 1>they're feeling the beads of sweat with the prospect of

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<v Speaker 1>taking down those knears. Give me the Crosssaders and give

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<v Speaker 1>them to me, big look. You know, I gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>lee High here. You know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you have to. Who's gonna say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta go Lehigh here. Give me the Mountain Hawks

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<v Speaker 1>at home. They've had a lot of time to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>to study the tape on Holy Cross. I feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about the home team here. Okay, Colgate, hello old friend again. Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>also traveling to the great state of PA, traveling just

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<v Speaker 1>a few miles up the road to Easton to swear

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<v Speaker 1>off against your Lafayette Leopards, Dan Rubinstein, That's.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm talking the Lafayete Leopards of both Papa Rubinstein

1:05:02.040 --> 1:05:05.120
<v Speaker 2>and I forgot what we called her, Katie the Kapper. Yes,

1:05:05.240 --> 1:05:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it's Katie the Kapper right way back when, also a

1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:08.440
<v Speaker 2>proud Leopard.

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<v Speaker 1>The audacity of the Gators of Colgate to think that

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<v Speaker 1>they can just literally waltz into I think it's Fisher Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Fisher Stadium. I've been to Easton, PA.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen how difficult it like.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the noise. Forget the crowd noise during a football game.

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<v Speaker 2>It just people of Easton bear on top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>When you enter the town, the you know, the entrance.

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<v Speaker 1>To the House stadium, the House of Pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going Lafayette in an embarrassing fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>Big. Absolutely, I'm going Gators here, Dan, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>by virtual going Lehigh, I feel it's required to go

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<v Speaker 1>Colgate in opposition to either of these. Is are there

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<v Speaker 1>people allowed in these stadiums? I have no idea, but

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably just walk again if I really wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is preferable?

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<v Speaker 1>Goodman are fishing? Probably Goodman. It's a lot closer. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not against it, Dan, I'm not against it. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually I should hold on. I should fade the music

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<v Speaker 1>out here. No, I like everyone to the final matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>There was supposed to be a matchup between your fordum

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<v Speaker 1>Rams and the Bucknell Bison, but New York's one. Sure, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that game has been postponed. So not off to the

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<v Speaker 1>best start. Here with thirty three perstead of the scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>games being canceled or postponed. But uh, spring football in

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriot League is finally upon us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where's that Lewisbourg, PA. That's where Bucknell is. How

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<v Speaker 2>far are you from Lewis Bournon probably asked this before.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry about hour and forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's not that close, So that's not really

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<v Speaker 2>an option even if they were playing good to know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to focus on what we have instead of

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<v Speaker 2>what we don't. And we have Lehigh and Lafayette hosting

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<v Speaker 2>big game games. I believe our both are streaming right

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<v Speaker 2>on ESPN Plus correct. So if you need your football

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<v Speaker 2>fix this weekends, you know what to watch