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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak

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Speaker 2: is that woo woom?

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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 1: boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildenbrandt, joining me

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Speaker 1: as always out there in the heart of the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: Dan the Pizza Man Rubinstein, Sir, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: I have some pizza inside my belly and it was

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Speaker 2: a terrible pizza and I messed it up, and I

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Speaker 2: still had two and a half slices. And it's especially

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Speaker 2: appropriate to do a spring cleaning episode.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't know what my inside's gonna look like later.

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Speaker 2: I had a lot of dairy.

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Speaker 1: Aren't going to go? Well? You did a vodka sauce pizza,

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Speaker 1: did you not?

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Speaker 2: I did? And that's tricky because we're talking about a

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Speaker 2: cream element or majority of the sauce mixed with For me,

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Speaker 2: it was tomato paste and shallots and garlic and all

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Speaker 2: sorts of season. It was I mean, it tasted good,

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Speaker 2: but the ratios and I don't think I think it

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Speaker 2: It's sitting there, occupying space without contributing much. Kind of

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Speaker 2: like Jeff Long.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like Jeff. We'll get to that. Who now

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Speaker 1: was the athletic director at Kansas. We'll get to that momentarily.

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Speaker 1: But you know where I stand at vodka sauce. That's

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Speaker 1: your one true identifier of quality. That's my identifier of

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Speaker 1: quality when it comes to the Italian restaurant. And so

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Speaker 1: I had an instance where we went to go visit

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Speaker 1: the vodka sauce pizza. And let me tell you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: vodka pizza sauce has never been a good combo for me.

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Speaker 2: FYI the Tavon Austin of Digestion.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sure, well, on that note, On that note, I

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Speaker 2: So what are they doing? What exactly are people to

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Speaker 1: The show topic this evening is spring cleaning, and it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a different Sorry, that's just my cleansings.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, please it's a little bit of a different

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 1: Our spin on spring cleaning today is.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about coordinators. We're talking about new coordinators in

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Speaker 2: some instances, new coordinators on new staves, stabs, staff, staves,

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Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, hold on. I understand that the

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Speaker 2: are we not hold on? This is I'm running for

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Speaker 1: Sure, I grant you that way with staves, continue as

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Speaker 2: Okay, new college football staffs in place, but so like,

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Speaker 2: for an example, Pete Kwakowski is a new defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: so that counts. So what we're going to do is

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Speaker 2: not the best. So there are guys who are clearly

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Speaker 2: You heard me, staves, New staves, you say, Mario, And

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Speaker 2: that's it's fine. No, just just take your own stabs.

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Speaker 1: that essentially hitching your wag into Less Miles at this

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Speaker 2: What I enjoy about the whole concept of Jeff Long

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Speaker 1: It was for Slate right.

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Speaker 2: Where he wrote Lapies was it was like Jeff Long

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Speaker 2: hires known dirt bag Bobby Patrino. Bobby Patrino turns out

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Speaker 2: Jeff Long can be convinced to say, maybe this guy though,

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Speaker 2: maybe this guy.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Long was the friendly face behind the BCS Playoff

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Speaker 2: Well, it was there was the BCS and then the

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Speaker 2: what I'm looking for and the like. So he's out.

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Speaker 2: I am hopeful, hopeful, And I don't know who Kansas

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Speaker 2: that's an administrative buy in, you know, if it's a

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Speaker 2: dramatic rebuild. So I yeah, trusting Jeff Long to make

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Speaker 2: Jeff Long hire at this point? Like who is it?

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Speaker 2: He would he hire Kevin someone? Would he hire Houston Nutt?

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Speaker 2: It's not a fun thing to say, oh, we don't

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Speaker 2: an entertaining game. And occasionally there are surprisingly entertaining games

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Speaker 2: It's just a bummer.

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Speaker 1: We got anything else in the news department that jumped

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Speaker 1: cover more when we do the show next Tuesday. But

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Speaker 1: in the interim, why don't we get to why don't

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Speaker 1: we get to our game? Here? So we are drafts.

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Speaker 1: We are drafting staves today. We're not doing staffs. It's

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Speaker 1: just coordinators. But I like where you're going. We're drafting

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Speaker 1: staves and we are looking for value over replacement coordinators.

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Speaker 1: So in front of us, we've got two links, both

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Speaker 1: from our friends over at FootballScoop dot com where they

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Speaker 1: track such things. Coordinator hires, big time, coordinator hires offense defense.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with one.

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Speaker 2: Who gets the first pick? Who gets the first pick?

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, well here let me. I'm gonna flip

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Speaker 1: a coin, flip something. Tell me what you call heads

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Speaker 1: call it now heads? Heads?

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Speaker 2: It is heads? It is okay, uh, with the first

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Speaker 2: overall pick. In terms of pure improvement, I'm gonna go with,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much that under the wire. Continue right

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Speaker 2: under the wire. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: Deronte Jones LSU LSU LSU defensive coordinator based on how

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Speaker 1: In Baton Rouge, Okay, I'm going as my first pick,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a terrible pick. Great, yes, and it's okay.

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Speaker 2: I think the town level is high enough at LSU.

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Speaker 2: that's real, pretty serious spot. I think Penn State is in.

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Speaker 2: But it's okay, It's okay.

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Speaker 1: To be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, you're up, all right, the pick is in.

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Speaker 2: I think we should we should rotate, by the way,

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Speaker 2: my next one is going to be offense. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go grimey at Baylor. Jeff Grimes, all right, continue new

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Speaker 2: which doesn't necessari mean anything if you don't have good

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Speaker 2: And I do think there's talent there betweens what Zeno

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Speaker 2: I personally see a coordinator with a mustache, and I

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Speaker 2: have a very difficult time not calling Frank Grimes from

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Speaker 2: And I think that the year two improvement will be

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go way off the radar with Jesse

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Speaker 1: Minter defensive new defensive coordinator for Vanderbilt, the youngest looking

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Speaker 1: coach I've ever seen. He was previously the Ravens defensive

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Speaker 1: Donovan forma act offensive member of the stave for Penn

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Speaker 1: to be working very closely with jesse Minter to try

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Speaker 2: So he was at Georgia State as a defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: I think the strength of Vanderbilt moving forward, knowing that

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Speaker 2: New quarterback at Florida Tennessee feels like it's full full

433
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: square one down to the studs. So there are similar

434
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: boats in the SEC East. Now Missoo should have a

435
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: pretty nice offense. We assume we'll see, but's it's not

436
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: the worst time to be working in a new defense.

437
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: A new team whatever, as most teams it seems like,

438
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: are in some way rebuilding or refreshing and spring cleaning

439
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: in the SEC East. So I don't hate this pick.

440
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: I just don't know enough about Jesse Minter to know

441
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: how I feel about his potential in the short term.

442
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: So all right, huge Jesse guy right here entire. I

443
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: always claim to be always you know, the Minter Cast

444
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: coming soon to your favorite podcast app. Where are we

445
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: going next?

446
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 2: Dan?

447
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: You're up?

448
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: Okay, the pick is in and I need to select

449
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator. I'm tempted to go in one direction,

450
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: although I don't want to give my hand away. Actually,

451
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: so I'm going to go with my pick. Indeed, it's

452
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: Tim de Ruter at Oregon. I'm gonna go with my

453
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: homework pick here because of the talent level, because of

454
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation of the opponents on Oregon schedule. Tim

455
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: de Ruter season defensive coordinator.

456
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: I know.

457
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: He called a really, really good cal defense and I

458
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: believe twenty eighteen and his specialty is linebackers. If you

459
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: remember Evan Weaver all over the place and known to

460
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: be especially strong in terms of confusing opposing quarterbacks. You

461
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: always did well against Mike Leach and the air raid.

462
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: So there is something about Tim de Ruter now moving

463
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: on from Cal to a team. And I know Cal

464
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: has has had NFL caliber defensive backs, but Oregon has

465
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: recruited extraordinarily well on the defensive side of the ball,

466
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: and they have two five star linebackers they've recorded, They've

467
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: recruited corner exceedingly well. Safety is a bit green and

468
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: a question still right now, but they've gotten pretty deep

469
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 2: on this defense. They're good up front and when this

470
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: Oregon defense is at its best, and was at its

471
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: best under Andy Avlos these past couple of years, they

472
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: were not allowing a ton and we saw it in

473
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: the USC game to win the Pac twelve championship, just

474
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: completely swarming USC upfront and getting after Keaton Slovas. I

475
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: think Tim de Ruter will be a welcome edition Oregon

476
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: last year because of some down games finished. I'm seeing

477
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: right now in the points per Drive on defense, it

478
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: looks to be seventy third nationally in twenty twenty, and

479
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: you know, a very small sample size. I think they

480
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: it's an easy move up into the top twenty, top twenty,

481
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: excuse me, top thirty. Like in the twenties. I think

482
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: you can have a pronounced improvement there. So Tim de

483
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: Ruter the pick to me Oregon not needing to fix

484
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: a defense necessarily.

485
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: That was going to be very good. See, that was

486
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: going to be my question much the way. It's not

487
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 1: fully in the spirit, but they do. But it was

488
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: a defense that was below average last year. They just

489
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: didn't fire their defensive coordinator. He moved on to a

490
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: head coaching job, but still a defense overall that needed

491
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: to be ironed out a bit. Okay, seventy third below average? Fair,

492
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: that's fair? Okay, Yeah, well I like the higher as well.

493
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. So, okay, what do I

494
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: have to pick? Offensive coordinator?

495
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: You have to pick?

496
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: You just picked Jesse Minter, longtime friend of yoursally huge.

497
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: Give me an offensive coordinator, a spring cleaning spring cleaning coordinator.

498
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: Vork I am so tempted to go with this pick.

499
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about either of these guys. Maybe

500
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: we could talk it through, but I'm gonna do it.

501
00:28:53,360 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: I just have to. Okay, because LSU has hired the

502
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: combo of Jake Pets and DJ Mangus, which really does

503
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: sound like it could be an ed m band, Pete's.

504
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: And Mangus DJ Mangus, Yeah, I mean, let's hope things

505
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: work out better than you know, any sort of involvement

506
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: with DJ Diurkin, so I'm good with it. Or I

507
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: mean DJ Benga had a decent tenth man career for

508
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: the Lakers. If you remember DJ Qualls, if you remember,

509
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: was he road trip? I believe it was a roads Yeah.

510
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: DJ Tanner's different.

511
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: D Yeah, D just goes by D. Pete and Mangus

512
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: could also be a drive time sports talk show. Absolutely.

513
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Steve Ansminger retired and ed Orgeron is now I think

514
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: trying to recapture the old Joe Brady magic. And you

515
00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: see this elsewhere in college football. It's not just LSU the.

516
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: It was also what a Scott Lenehan situation last year

517
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: as well for LSU.

518
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Right he was the passing game coordinator and they decided

519
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: to move on from him. So Pete and Magas were

520
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: both added from the Carolina Panthers staff and they worked

521
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: under Joe Brady, who was formerly the LSU offensive coordinator.

522
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: Obviously part of that once in a generation national championship

523
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: season that led Joe Burrow to the number one overall,

524
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: pick LS was really bad last year. They were really

525
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: bad last year on a number of different fronts. What

526
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me they weren't they weren't as bad.

527
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: I think that's harsh.

528
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we're still talking about a team that destroyed

529
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: South Carolina with essentially a first time quarterback and with

530
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: weird circumstances to beat Florida on the road, like really bad.

531
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: Their defense was bad, but I think they were okay,

532
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: which for LSU was really bad. But I don't think

533
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: they were a really bad team.

534
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: They had their issues at the quarterback spot, I mean,

535
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: and they bounced around a little bit because yep, obviously

536
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: they had the injury to Miles Brannan. We saw TJ.

537
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: Finley for a while, We saw Max Johnson eventually take

538
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: over that spot and do really well towards the end

539
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: of the year. So you know, they've obviously got enough

540
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: to work with. I think the thing with LSU, and

541
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I know something that's driven LSU fans crazy forever is

542
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: maximizing that talent, getting the most out of it the

543
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: way they did the year that Joe Burrow was there.

544
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: But they were just incredibly effective on offense. So I

545
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: think it has nowhere to go but up. Last year

546
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: may have been a weird year. I like starting over.

547
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: I like kind of retooling the entire STAB, both on

548
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: offense and defense and trying to bring some new blood in.

549
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't I guess the risk here is that are

550
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: they trying to find the next Joe Brady's.

551
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: Well, that's fine, I mean you can that's a good

552
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: search if you can find. If you are finding the

553
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: next Joe Brady, you are finding a crazy talented coordinator.

554
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: They just need to get better in terms of their

555
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: efficiency the quarterback. Notwithstanding, this is a team that just

556
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: look had to replace a lot and had Jamar Chase

557
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: opt out, and it just was a tough year to

558
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: try and build a new after again a once in

559
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: a generation season. So efficiency is I think going to

560
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: be paramount, getting more bang for the buck if they

561
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: can do that, even if it's not quite to their

562
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: what twenty nineteen levels, which seems impossible, any step up

563
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: in terms of efficiency I think is a pretty big deal.

564
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: So let's go Petez and Mangus because I like the

565
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: name and I get two for one.

566
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when you look at what LSU did,

567
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: Elsie I have it as eighty third on offensive points

568
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: per drive, so a ton of room for improvement. The

569
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: quarterback room isn't a great place. Miles Brennan, before he

570
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: got hurt, was plenty good to be the quarterback of

571
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: a winning SEC team. He was accurate enough, he did

572
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: not turn the ball over that much. He was totally fine,

573
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: if not good. He just followed up Joe Brady, excuse me,

574
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. And that's a tall task, and you get

575
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: hurt and you have to start relying on green dudes

576
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: like TJ. Finley and Max Johnson. I kind of really

577
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: liked Max Johnson. I thought there was some zaz to

578
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: his game, kind of athletic, made plays when things broke down.

579
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: I liked Max Johnson. I don't know, he just seems

580
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: fascinating to me. I guess so yeah. I mean as

581
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: far as Pets and Mangus, obviously younger guys and you know,

582
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: experience in that system, experience with Joe Brady with the.

583
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Panthers, I like to pick a lot.

584
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: I think even an average LSU offense, given the talent

585
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: they have at quarterback, given what they bring back at receiver. Yeah,

586
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: I mean they can immediately get back to be a

587
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: top twenty in terms of this metric. Yeah, I think

588
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: that's a great pick from you.

589
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: They have all the tools that they need. Yeah, they

590
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: have all the tools that they need to come in

591
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: there and make an impact. Again, I think it's risky

592
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: to even have in the back of your mind that

593
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: you're getting the next Joe Brady Joe Brady's But sure,

594
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate going out and trying to bring some new

595
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: blood in and effectively effectively reboot.

596
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: It's a really good thing to me. It's a really

597
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 2: good thing when a head coach goes out and goes

598
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: to people he knows and trusts and say, this guy

599
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: isn't your offensive coordinator, or like, you don't have an

600
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: opening offensive coordinator, but if you did, who would you target,

601
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: and saying these two guys, this guy, this guy whatever,

602
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: Piets and Mangus. I mean, if that works out, it's

603
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: always going to be better to me to get a

604
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: reference of a guy you don't necessarily know, but say

605
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: to yourself, the recommendations, the references are there, and the

606
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 2: track records seems to be building. Sure, because the Polini thing,

607
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: the Linehan thing, there is something that reeks of Okay,

608
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: I did it this way. I'm feeling very confident that

609
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: my guys are the way to go. That's that's how

610
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: ed Oorzron found Joe Brady. I'm sort of all over

611
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: the place there. But he went to Sean Payton, and

612
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 2: he went to Joe Morehead. These guys that Joe Brady

613
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: had worked with him, like, what do you think about

614
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: this guy? And they like, across the board, that is

615
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: the smartest guy in the room. So if Joe Brady

616
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: is giving this recommendation, it seems worthwhile to kick those tires.

617
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: Okay. So I like, you're up to pick what a

618
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: defensive guy?

619
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: No, I just picked Tim de Ruder. I'm due for

620
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: offense since this one is tough for me. This one

621
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 2: is really tough. But I guess if we're looking for vork,

622
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: if we're looking for room for improvement, I'm going to

623
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: select the team with the number ninety two points per

624
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: drive offense in twenty twenty, that's Kentucky hiring Leo Cohen. Okay,

625
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen from of course, ty, if you're going to

626
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: hire somebody, if they're not if they don't come recommended

627
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: by Joe Brady, they better come recommended by Sean mcvay'

628
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: and that's exactly what Liam Cohen is, somebody who's recommended

629
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: by Sean McVay to Mark Stoops at Kentucky. The problem

630
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: with Kentucky right now is the quarterback position. I mean,

631
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: it could be Joey Gatewood, it could be Will Levis.

632
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 2: There's a freshman in there who I think is probably

633
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: better built for a more traditional offense than a more

634
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: running offense, which Will Levis and Joey Gatewood were counted

635
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: on for their legs a little bit more, it seems,

636
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: in the past, than their ability to scan the field

637
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: and make plays with their arms. So I'm going to

638
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: go with Kentucky. I'm gonna go with the experience at receiver,

639
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: even though it was not a popping offense. I believe

640
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez is back. This is a program that has

641
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: developed offensive lineman and you know, if I'm going to

642
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: be like you know every other person hiring offensive coaches

643
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: and roll with the Sean McVay tree, so be it.

644
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm going with Liam Cohen. I'm going with Kentucky for

645
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: similar reasons. I mean, we have rebuilding Tennessee, South Carolina Vanderbilt,

646
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: so if Kentucky's offense and quarterback position rises to consistently competent.

647
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: And I like Terry Wilson, but he was sort of

648
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: a three to four yard passer at a time. He

649
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: was not really a big downfield guy. So if they

650
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: can get that downfield element within that offense.

651
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: Obviously, this is.

652
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: Sort of how I ragged on you for selecting Mike.

653
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Rzich, saying I was going to be my next point.

654
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: The quarterback position is not anywhere near settled, but yeah,

655
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to roll with that Situationally, I think

656
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: it's Bo Allen. I don't know if it's Bo or

657
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: b Eau, it's both something. I think it's Bo Allen,

658
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: who is the promising younger quarterback, so because of the

659
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: skill talent. Oh and what doesn't Wandale Robinson enter the

660
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: fold for Kentucky. I believe he does so an interesting

661
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: weapon there in a way that they haven't had, I

662
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: guess since Lin Bowden a couple of years ago, all

663
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: the way back in twenty nineteen. I'm going to go

664
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: with Kentucky and Liam Cohn.

665
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I played the draft chime, but I'll

666
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: play it for me. Play it now, Yeah, I like

667
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: that pick. I also appreciate that you've left Don Brown

668
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: waiting for so this is an interesting conversation. Continue, Yeah,

669
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: waiting for me in the green room. Don Brown comes

670
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: over from Michigan, longtime defensive coordiator for Michigan at least

671
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: since the Horriball era. He is now going to Tucson

672
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: with Jedfish. So I like the hire by Jedfish. Jedfish was,

673
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: per what we understand, kind of preferred by some at

674
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: the university, but maybe not everyone, so a mixed hire

675
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: in some regresident loves him, president loves him. Arizona.

676
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we.

677
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: Should rely more on what the university presidents think versus

678
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: athletic directors and light of the Jeff Long stuff. But

679
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: that aside, Jed Fish is the guy. He went out

680
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: and he hired I think a known commodity in Don Brown.

681
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: Don Brown, I was reading, gave some interesting comments to

682
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: a local paper when asked about what went wrong at

683
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: Michigan and you know, I mean he'd been there a while,

684
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: but cited COVID the pandemic for lack of practice in

685
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: the spring, talked about some of the upper classmen that

686
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: he had at Michigan, but the lack of depth at

687
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: defense and how you know it just was diminishing returns

688
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: there over the last couple of years, and it sort

689
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: of culminated in a goofy year where you couldn't quite

690
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: do everything that you needed to. I think he has

691
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: to be better, just has to be better than what

692
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Arizona had previously. Now here's where I do think he

693
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: gets interesting. Had from a friend of the solid verbal

694
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: that was gonna be my point. Paul Rhodes was the

695
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: former defensive coordinator who for a long time has been

696
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good defensive mind in and around college football.

697
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: It's been a minute, it's been a minute, it's been.

698
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: A minute, but he at least has that reputation. I

699
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: like Don Brown. Don Brown's an older gentleman, He's been

700
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: around the game for a long time. I like the

701
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: move for him to go out to Arizona where they

702
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: have not had a defense in forever. I certainly hope

703
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: that Jedfish makes that a priority, and I think Don

704
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: Brown's a good guy to help him do that. So

705
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: they got to be better than where they were Dan

706
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: they just they have to be better than where they were.

707
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: They were dreadful dreadful in every defensive category last year.

708
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I can't find any green, any green on this chart,

709
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: so it has to improve. If we're talking strictly about Vork,

710
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: there's certainly a lot of potential to move up. So

711
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: this is kind of a Vandy esque pick here with

712
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly Don Brown doesn't have the name recognition

713
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 1: of Jesse Minter, but he's up there.

714
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: Arizona finished one hundred and twenty first in deventsive points

715
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: per drive allowed, culminating in what was seventy to seven

716
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: or something against ASU to finish out the twenty twenty season,

717
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: and it just it didn't work. It didn't work. The

718
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: problem to me with Arizona and Don Brown is, I

719
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: mean Arizona's hiring discount Don. If Don Brown were in

720
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: high demand, he would have gone to somewhere bigger than Tucson,

721
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: which is kind of college football exile right now, middle

722
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: of the desert, away from the bright lights of college football.

723
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: Hope Jed Fish gets it going in Tucson for the Cats.

724
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: You know, fun environment when things are when things are

725
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: going well. But I always hesitate with grabbing a guy

726
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: coming down from success to a media and out was

727
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: very strange.

728
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: We know this.

729
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: This is the the unspoken disclaimer at the top of

730
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: every show in which we talk about twenty twenty games

731
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 2: in the season. But it's a pretty strong quarterback division

732
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: Keaton Slovas and Jaden Daniels and dtr There's there's talent there,

733
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: and the recruiting has been so bad at Arizona that

734
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: while I'm with you in terms of Arizona's defense should

735
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: improve because there's only kind of one direction to go,

736
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how dramatically it can improve if the

737
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: talent isn't there. The talent was absolutely there at Michigan,

738
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: less so at Boston College, where he had excellent defenses.

739
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: He is unquestionably somebody with an incredible defensive track record.

740
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: I just wonder if he can be that extreme chopped

741
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator like we'd like to talk about top chef

742
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: versus chopped, iron chef versus chopped you know, the greatest ingredients.

743
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Whatever players are not food. But still I hesitate. I

744
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: hesitate here in terms of year one, I think it

745
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: could be like ninety nine and there's no appreciable difference

746
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: off to our eyes week over week watching Arizona football.

747
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: So that's why I hesitated. I like the pick because

748
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: he does also have a mustache.

749
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I need the mustache.

750
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: Also, majority of his experiences in what the Midwest and

751
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: the Northeast that worries me a little bit too. So

752
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: we'll see. We will absolutely see. So I need to

753
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: go from what Liam Cohen to a defensive coordinator?

754
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: Correct, all right?

755
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: This one, I like, I'm going Pete Quakowski at.

756
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: Your boy you love he can't shut up about Pete.

757
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me. I talked Pete Quitkowski all the time

758
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: co defensive coordinator at Washington now Texas forty ninth, I'm

759
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: seeing right now a lot of miss tackles. If you

760
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: watched Texas football last year, the effort, the injuries. Strange

761
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: season for sure, But I think the Pete Quitkowski hire

762
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: could be super interesting because those Washington teams he both coordinators,

763
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 2: and he coordinated and co coordinated with Jimmy Lake before

764
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: Jimmy Lake became head coach. You know, the two really

765
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: deep safeties that Washington team was happy to let you

766
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: nickel and dime them, but they were not getting beat deep.

767
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: They developed a ton of real equality players in the secondary.

768
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: Even though Peoklkowski's experience is largely upfront. I think that

769
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: specific defense paired with an unquestioned talent level. I know

770
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: secondary took some lumps, and perhaps some of those blue

771
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: chip recruits didn't quite live up to their potential these

772
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: past few years, But up front, I kind of love

773
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: what Texas had. Now I'm not being seduced into your

774
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: you know, Texas's back thing, but I think the job

775
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: that Qwikowski has at Texas is a pretty quick fix.

776
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: I'm not fully in love with the big twelve top

777
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: to bottom at quarterback and on offense. I think talent wise,

778
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: effort wise, I think it's going to go up. Obviously,

779
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: there was a year of Chris ash last year after

780
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 2: Todd Orlando was let go, so that sort of changed

781
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: with a short season, a weird season. I'm going to

782
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: go that full refresh being a quality, quality thing for

783
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: the Texas defense. I think they can go from what

784
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: did I say, forty ninth yep. I think I've got

785
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: to make sure, yeah, forty ninth. I think they can

786
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: get into eighteen to twenty five somewhere there pretty quickly

787
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: with him.

788
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I forgot to play it again. By the way,

789
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: I apologize, please play it now, Okay. So, I think

790
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: this is probably our last, like one or two picks here,

791
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: since we're running a bit long in the tooth. I

792
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: wanted to throw out Dan Enos at Maryland.

793
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: Whoa okay, sell me.

794
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: This is a weird pick, I understand, and I am

795
00:45:52,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: trading on dan Enos's ties to the tongue of Iloa family. Essentially, yeah,

796
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: so flashes he did. Scotty Montgomery was formerly the offensive

797
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: coordinator part of ways. A few days after, you know,

798
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: after the season, and then they announced that Danny Noos

799
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: was coming aboard. Dannys has had a couple stops along

800
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: the way. I remember, you know, obviously his time at Alabama.

801
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be kind of like the savior

802
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: of the Miami offense. That didn't work out at all,

803
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: so mixed bag, but still kind of has a good

804
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: name to trade on. And did he have I think so?

805
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: I mean, whose name Dan la Fever's. I'm just wondering.

806
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: I just want to know. I'm just here asking questions

807
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: time about these stabs.

808
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: Don't ruin this for me?

809
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: Wasn't he knows the guy who just left Alabama without

810
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 2: telling Micksaban was leaving like he was supposed to show

811
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: up to a morning guy.

812
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: I just said in terms of.

813
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: I think he refutes that story, but that is a

814
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: story about him at all. I'm taking the Miami job.

815
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: In terms of being a football mind. Yeah, the Maryland

816
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: offense wasn't terrible last year. I think it was better

817
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: than expected. But I think if Taliah is going to

818
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: be the guy moving forward, and given that Danny Nose

819
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: has some familiarity there with with the family, I just

820
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a pretty good spot to be in.

821
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: There's always room for improvement at Maryland, at least in

822
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: the early going now under the Mike Loxley. Mike Loxley tenure.

823
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Uh, we know he loves the DMV. We

824
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: know he can recruit the DMV. That's not who were

825
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: you drafting though? No, But I feel like it's another situation,

826
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: low key, where they are going to be an increasing

827
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: number of tools that he has to work with. So

828
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: let's go dan.

829
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: Is it is it Mike Loxley's offense?

830
00:47:59,560 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: Though?

831
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: Is this like it's one of those things where like

832
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 2: we could I told you we can't draft Kyle Flood

833
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: because this is Steve Sarkeesian's offense at Texas. So I

834
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: don't know the answer to that. You took, you took

835
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: Danny Nose, So I don't know who's whose mind, whose playbook,

836
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: who's calling the plays on game day maybe hasn't even

837
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: been determined yet. But that's that's a question for me

838
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: with this pick. Also, I'm sure you have somebody in

839
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: your life like this, or solid wife Kate has somebody

840
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: in her life like this that posts a lot on

841
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 2: social media every so often. They post every so often

842
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: there's a new significant other. You're like, huh, I thought

843
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: she was with the guy, dark hair, kind of curly,

844
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: now a buzz cut, blonde, Okay, okay, And that is

845
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: somewhat emblematic to me of Danny Knows recently where you

846
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: just you squint a little longer at somebody who's just

847
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: kind of island hopping as a coach, just just bopping

848
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: around because up not working out. Up the found out

849
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: I was this, well gotta go somewhere new. Well, let's

850
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: see if they care. There's something to me about that

851
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: with Danny Knows, completely unfounded. But that's why I always squint.

852
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: I squint a little bit longer at the people who

853
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: who pop up with a new boyfriend or girlfriend or

854
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 2: something like that on social media every three months, just like,

855
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: why don't we why don't we let something just play

856
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: out a little longer?

857
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: Right? All right? I don't know. Always concerns me. Red

858
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: flag for me? Last round here, Dan, you get your

859
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: last selection?

860
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 2: So who did I just take? I just took Peakwakowski?

861
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: So I had to go offense. Man, I really could

862
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: not find somebody. I was really hoping to get in

863
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: with both LSU sides of the ball. I do have

864
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: myke Earsitch on my list. That was a late round

865
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: flyer for me. All right, man, Okay, I'm gonna go.

866
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: It's getting a little bit tricky here.

867
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. Yeah, thank you, I'm gonna go.

868
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: Doug Meachumcu I mean, is he a new offensive coordinator?

869
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: I mean he was a position coast last year, and

870
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: he was an offensive coordinator many years ago for TCU.

871
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: He was promoted like.

872
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: I think its okay?

873
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I have Bobo down here as a potential pick,

874
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: and I have Chip Long at Tulane after a year

875
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: at Tennessee. Now the reason I hear you about Chip Long,

876
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: I want to say, I looked it up, so Tulane

877
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: last year they it looks like I'm seeing forty So

878
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: not an awful offense. Not a ton of room for improvement.

879
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: You know, Willie Fritz is gonna have his hands on

880
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: the offense. But Notre Dame's offense did make a really

881
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: nice jump about thirty spots and his I think his

882
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: first year was twenty seventeen at Notre Dame, so that

883
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: was interesting to me. I know they got a lot

884
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: better in the red zone. I can't roll with Chip

885
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: Loong and Tulane, so I guess I'm gonna go with

886
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: Doug Meachum, former XFL recent XFL brief coordinator. There's something

887
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: to me about an experienced quarterback. I kind of love

888
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: Zach Evans on the ground. I think his potential is

889
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: pretty interesting to me. So if TCU is not turning

890
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 2: the ball over, I think they're gonna be. They finished

891
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: sixty eighth last year, so there's room for improvement with TCU.

892
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: I'm not nearly as seduced by TCU as you are.

893
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: Yet over for three years now, you keep it and

894
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: then you come back to the season, you're like they

895
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: start to and O. I think there is something about

896
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: the younger skill guys for TCU that it's not interesting

897
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: to me about TCU as a whole, because I still

898
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm still extremely mixed on Max Duggan at best, but

899
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad he was healthy last year and was able

900
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: to play after his scare over the summer. There's something

901
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: about experience at quarterback and those skill position players that

902
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: makes me thinking, I don't think the magic is back

903
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 2: from twenty fourteen or anything like that, but that's gonna

904
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: be my pick that there is there is some pixie

905
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: dust in Fort Worth to be mined.

906
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: Okay?

907
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: Is that okay with you? Did you even consider it?

908
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: Was he on your board?

909
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: No? No, I'm done with TCU.

910
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: You know that I'm done, No, but that I'm just

911
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: in terms of often who else is on your offensive

912
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: or defensive board? I had Brad Lambert Purdue. I don't

913
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: know if you want to make this pick right now. No,

914
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: I have I think Marshall's defense.

915
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked at him, if only because he's taking

916
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: over for Bob Diaco bobya oh yeah, and it's terrific

917
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: head of hair. But I'm actually gonna go a different

918
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: direction here. Here we go, I am getting in on

919
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: the baby Ravens, Dan, That's what I'm doing. Okay, in

920
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: on the baby Ravens. You know, I'm high on Jesse Minter.

921
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Let's go the other side of the coin and go

922
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: with Michael McDonald oker for girl. Mike McDonald, as it were,

923
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: he is the new defensive coordinator at Michigan, taking over

924
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: for Don Brown.

925
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: He's a co defensive coordinators. You get two.

926
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: We got Mo Linguist too. I to get Yeah, you get.

927
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: Two for one.

928
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: I get the full stav there staff. Yeah. Yeah, Mike

929
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: McDonald is thirty three years old.

930
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a It's not that difficult anymore, knowing

931
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: how young coaches are that are getting hired in college,

932
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: successful coaches, coordinator's, position coaches, whatever. But when it's low thirties,

933
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: high twenties, as I ascend to my mid to upper thirties,

934
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 2: it's tougher and tougher. I told Jody with and I

935
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: was like, hey, Michigan's new defensive coordinators thirty three. She

936
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: said he's he's nine years older than me.

937
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, that's it.

938
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, give me give me your your Mike McDonald's

939
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: and Mo Linguist optimism.

940
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about either of these guys. I'm

941
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,959
Speaker 1: not going to pretend well, no, hold on, it's fine.

942
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean they were position coaches. In the NFL, there

943
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: were position coaches. He comes over from the Ravens, so

944
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: Jesse Minter defensive backs coach in this case, Mike McDonald,

945
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: a linebackers coach, had a stint before that as a

946
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: defensive backs coach. By all accounts, he is a young

947
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: up and comer, started coaching while he was still in

948
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: college at Georgia. Smart guy graduated from Georgia like Summa

949
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: cum laud and was coaching at the high school level

950
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: for a couple of years while he was still in school.

951
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: So this is he knew he wanted to do this

952
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: to some extent, right, He knew he had this in

953
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: the back of his mind. He got a Manny Diaz

954
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: on your hands. Maybe so he he was intern with

955
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: the Ravens. He worked his way up and obviously now

956
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: got this gig with Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh, for what

957
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: it's worth, probably reached out to his brother and was

958
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: able to get a pretty good recommendation here on what

959
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald brought to the team. To your point though

960
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: about Don Brown. Doesn't Jim Harbaugh already employ one brother?

961
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: Isn't there a Jay on the staff? I believe there's

962
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: a Jay Harbaugh. There are so many Harbas at this point. Yeah,

963
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: but here's here's here's the thing. There's room for improvement

964
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: on that Michigan defense for all the reasons it didn't

965
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: work out for Don Brown. He's the son of Jim,

966
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: by the way, the son of Jim. Jim. Yeah, thank you.

967
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Say what you want about Don Brown. I think we

968
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for him. We love the mustache.

969
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: There has been a situation at Michigan of diminishing returns

970
00:55:53,400 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: and so now bringing new blood. They've got talent, hopefully

971
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: depth is improved over a year ago. And we got

972
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: a young guy who maybe brings some new energy to

973
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: the side. That's all I got. I don't really, I

974
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: don't know much here.

975
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: What a fantasy thing it will probably be this year.

976
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: Young coach brings new energy. Coach under Fordy brings new energy,

977
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: new blood news as well. If we would have done

978
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: it last year, we could have done the next Joe Brady.

979
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, easily, easily. Now the best I mean, not

980
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: even the best. I think two years ago Michigan's defense

981
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: was pretty good, the top twenty five or so defense,

982
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 2: and otherwise they've been kind of a top ten to

983
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 2: fifteen unit under Don Brown. The concern for me is

984
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: Don Brown's defense was so specific, and I know a

985
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 2: lot he runs a lot of things, a lot of

986
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: I just hit my microphone. I know he runs a

987
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: lot of things that a lot of teams run, but

988
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 2: he you know, he puts his corners out on an island.

989
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: He as the specialized positions.

990
00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: Up front.

991
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: You get the viper, which I think is the you know,

992
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: the Jabrill Peppers outside linebackers, safety hybrid, and so they're

993
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: very specific positions. And the way guys were recruited to

994
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: this defense that's now being overhauled. The good news for Michigan, well,

995
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: it was like I said before, defense is about, you know,

996
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: effort and buy and whatever, and that's what leads to

997
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: really strong tackling.

998
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: It's just effort.

999
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: It's just effort if you have the talent in place,

1000
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: and Michigan upfront along that defensive line. Upfront, linebacker, I

1001
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: now was pretty dicey. Secondary was pretty dicey last year,

1002
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: but upfront, at least with Donovan Jeter, with Aiden Hutchinson.

1003
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: There is there are bookends, There are interesting, big beefy

1004
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: bodies to build this defense upon, and so it's a

1005
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: really nice starting point. I don't know much about Mo Linguist.

1006
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: I know we bounced around college as a secondary coach

1007
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: for a while there and a bunch of different conferences

1008
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: and then ended up I think with the Cowboys last year,

1009
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: so I don't know much about his reputation as a coach.

1010
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: It seemed like some of his defenses improved when he arrived.

1011
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, the McDonald think is interesting. I think it

1012
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: was certainly time for a complete refresh of the defense

1013
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: after last year and again nightmare of a year, but

1014
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: it was time. It was absolutely time. And you like

1015
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: to talk about Jim Harbaugh running his uh you know,

1016
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: coaching staff and his players into the ground and everybody

1017
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: needing evs his stabs or just his eight his staff.

1018
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: I am going to go with this being interesting. I mean,

1019
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: there's they finished one hundred and seventh last year in

1020
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: points allowed per drive, so the room for improvement is

1021
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: one hundred percent there. And also I just pulled up

1022
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: Michigan's schedule. Do you know who Michigan plays this year.

1023
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: Can I'm going to run through it with you and

1024
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: you tell me when I get to a probably good offense. Okay, Okay,

1025
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: all right, here we go. We're going to start with

1026
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: Western Michigan on September fourth.

1027
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: Nope, I don't. I'm not a big believer right now.

1028
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: And then we go to up It's self refreshing Washington

1029
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: pretty efficient last year, but I don't think Dylan Morris,

1030
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: and now that Puka Nakua, one of the receivers they

1031
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: are counted on, just entered the transfer portal I think

1032
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: is heading to BYU. I'm not a big believer right

1033
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: now in Washington Johnson offense, John Donovan offense. That game

1034
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: is in ann Arbor. Next next Northern Illinois, next Rutgers,

1035
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: next at Wisconsin. I'm not can you say right now,

1036
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what today March tenth, probably good Wisconsin offense. No, no, no,

1037
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm not there. I like where they at. I like

1038
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: where they're at running back, but otherwise at Nebraska, listen,

1039
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm We're now into October ninth.

1040
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, Northwestern. Okay, Now at Michigan State Indiana maybe

1041
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: so Indiana is a maybe probably good November sixth, and

1042
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: by the way, after that is at Penn State, maybe,

1043
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 1: at Maryland maybe, and then Ohio State and an arbor

1044
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 1: for sure. So are you on this podcast on March

1045
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: the eleventh, twenty twenty one, right here, right now, predicting

1046
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: eleven to one Michigan. I think that's what I'm hearing.

1047
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I would be stupid not to. I'll be

1048
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 2: stupid not to. No, I'm just saying, situationally, if you're

1049
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: looking for buy low, they've recruited I think, well to

1050
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: very well. Better on offense, it seems, than defense. But

1051
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: all the same, they've recruited.

1052
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Well.

1053
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: The schedule this year is not filled with probable killers.

1054
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: So I mean, how many actual offenses are you scared

1055
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: of in the Big ten at this point after what

1056
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: we saw last year? Not many? In Ohio State is

1057
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: a new starting quarterback. He'll be good. Whoever it is,

1058
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: it'll be good. So I think pieces are in place

1059
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: to go from one oh seven to I don't know,

1060
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: thirty eight. Is that crazy? Doesn't seem like it.

1061
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: This is why we take Mike McDonald Dan Okay, forgot

1062
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, all right, So there you have it, don't

1063
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: forget to write in It's Oliver gmail dot com or

1064
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: by going to our website solid verbal dot com. Want

1065
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: to know your thoughts. We do have a Patreon where

1066
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: both you and I have been a lot more active lately. Yeah.

1067
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: I posted a video of me making pizza dough.

1068
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you posted the pizza dough video. I'm working on

1069
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: a little podcast video. It's like, are you too, Yeah,

1070
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: I got I got a little something in the lab here.

1071
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: I've been working up in all my free time, you know,

1072
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: be working up something and and also been more active

1073
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: on the discord, which is a lot of fun, kind

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01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: of in the moment.

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: This morning we had a light debate of what was

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01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 2: it AJ mccaren versus Who was ajmccaron versus Trace McSorley

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01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: or something. Okay, this is what you do in March.

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01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: This is this is what you do. I played my

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01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: game on which did you watch? I did watch some.

1080
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: I lost Rylan not good. I lost thirty one twenty

1081
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: eight through an interception with nineteen seconds left against my

1082
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: friend Ah gave him an easy three. I lost.

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01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry, Ty, Yeah.

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: But we got more more on the way. We knocked

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01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: off Penn State and we got a game against app

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01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: State against Notre Dame, and then I believe that the

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01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: rivalry against Army to close out Navy. He so probably

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: looking at a one lost season if all goes well.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you please? Was this a fun show?

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Speaker 1: This is a fun It is okay, fun show, fun show, Okay,

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01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: fun show, just okay? Talking about stabs was fun? Okay.

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01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: Good for that guy over there, my good friend Danrewbstet

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Speaker 1: For myself, Tie Hildebrand, thank you so much for downloading,

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01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: for listening, for playing along with our madness. Have yourself

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01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: a good weekend. We will catch you on the flip

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: side of the meantime. Stay solid peace. But before we

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01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: go any further, Danielle, I have a request, Tyler. Will

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: you drop that slinking, slithering, slathering drum and five? Ah

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Speaker 1: there it is hello, old friend Dan. We have two

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01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: Patriot League games, two Patriot League games to discuss. As

1101
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriot League is playing football this spring.

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01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: Let's start here with the College of the Holy Cross

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01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: traveling to Goodman Stadium high noon this coming Saturday to

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01:03:55,080 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: square off against yours mine, the Lehigh Mountain Hawks. DA mine.

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01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: Let's say you.

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Speaker 2: Get out of town with that accusation. Oh man, do

1107
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: I love gambling against the engineers, especially especially.

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01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: You know the Crosssaders have been in the weight room.

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01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: You know they're staying late after practice. You know they're

1110
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: they're feeling the beads of sweat with the prospect of

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01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: taking down those knears. Give me the Crosssaders and give

1112
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: them to me, big look. You know, I gotta go

1113
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: lee High here. You know that.

1114
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to. Who's gonna say anything.

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01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: You gotta go Lehigh here. Give me the Mountain Hawks

1116
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: at home. They've had a lot of time to prepare

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01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: to study the tape on Holy Cross. I feel good

1118
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: about the home team here. Okay, Colgate, hello old friend again. Yes, yes, yes,

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: also traveling to the great state of PA, traveling just

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Speaker 1: a few miles up the road to Easton to swear

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01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: off against your Lafayette Leopards, Dan Rubinstein, That's.

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01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: What I'm talking the Lafayete Leopards of both Papa Rubinstein

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: and I forgot what we called her, Katie the Kapper. Yes,

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: it's Katie the Kapper right way back when, also a

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 2: proud Leopard.

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Speaker 1: The audacity of the Gators of Colgate to think that

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01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: they can just literally waltz into I think it's Fisher Stadium.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Fisher Stadium. I've been to Easton, PA.

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01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: I've seen how difficult it like.

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Speaker 2: Just the noise. Forget the crowd noise during a football game.

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: It just people of Easton bear on top of it.

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01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: When you enter the town, the you know, the entrance.

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01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: To the House stadium, the House of Pain.

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01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going Lafayette in an embarrassing fashion.

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Speaker 1: Big. Absolutely, I'm going Gators here, Dan, you know, just

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01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: by virtual going Lehigh, I feel it's required to go

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01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: Colgate in opposition to either of these. Is are there

1138
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: people allowed in these stadiums? I have no idea, but

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01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: I could probably just walk again if I really wanted to.

1140
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: Which is preferable?

1141
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: Goodman are fishing? Probably Goodman. It's a lot closer. So

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01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not against it, Dan, I'm not against it. And

1143
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: actually I should hold on. I should fade the music

1144
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: out here. No, I like everyone to the final matchup.

1145
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: There was supposed to be a matchup between your fordum

1146
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: Rams and the Bucknell Bison, but New York's one. Sure, Yeah,

1147
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,959
Speaker 1: that game has been postponed. So not off to the

1148
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: best start. Here with thirty three perstead of the scheduled

1149
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: games being canceled or postponed. But uh, spring football in

1150
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: the Patriot League is finally upon us.

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01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's that Lewisbourg, PA. That's where Bucknell is. How

1152
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 2: far are you from Lewis Bournon probably asked this before.

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01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: Sorry about hour and forty five minutes.

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not that close, So that's not really

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 2: an option even if they were playing good to know. Yeah,

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to focus on what we have instead of

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01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: what we don't. And we have Lehigh and Lafayette hosting

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01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: big game games. I believe our both are streaming right

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Speaker 2: on ESPN Plus correct. So if you need your football

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Speaker 2: fix this weekends, you know what to watch