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Speaker 1: For this week's Rewind, we're skipping episode 122 and jumping

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Speaker 1: straight into 123. Former contributors were part of the network

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Speaker 1: at the time that episode aired, and we're choosing not

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Speaker 1: to platform them in any way moving forward. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for understanding. Hello and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia.

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Speaker 2: This is the show where we step into the past

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Speaker 2: through our old episodes and emerge from the other side

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Speaker 2: with brand new feelings and case updates and more.

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Speaker 1: Today we're rewinding to episode 123, which we named Live

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Speaker 1: at Vicar Street in Dublin from the first night of

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Speaker 1: our European tour.

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Speaker 2: This episode originally came out May 31st, 2018. So let's

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Speaker 2: listen to the intro of episode 123. Hey, what's up, Dublin?

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Speaker 1: It sounded like you were saying something else than what's up, Dublin,

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Speaker 1: just now.

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Speaker 2: I was going to kick off my own thing.

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Speaker 3: Tonight's the night.

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Speaker 2: I start speaking Gaelic to everybody. Ah! You didn't know.

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Speaker 3: This is so cool. This is the first show of

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Speaker 3: our big tour.

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Speaker 2: Our European tour. Yeah!

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Speaker 3: Of which you are not the UK, and I know that.

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Speaker 1: We're not.

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Speaker 2: We're not. You have nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 3: I know that. Fucking totally separate place. We knew it.

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Speaker 2: We all knew it.

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Speaker 3: We knew it.

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Speaker 1: Whoever was posting on my Instagram yesterday was fucking lying.

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Speaker 2: Someone broke into your Instagram and started posting... Like, rumors

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Speaker 2: that you think Ireland's in the UK?

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Speaker 3: That's so embarrassing. I mean, can I, do I have

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Speaker 3: to say it?

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Speaker 1: Fire Steven?

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Speaker 2: Steven!

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Speaker 1: Out!

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Speaker 2: He's not here. Nope.

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Speaker 3: He's not in his usual spot.

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Speaker 1: Nope. That means no. Listen, the cats aren't going to

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Speaker 1: take care of themselves.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Well, and also, there's no fucking way we're

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Speaker 2: paying for Steven's ticket to Europe. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Fuck you, bro.

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Speaker 2: He knows.

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Speaker 1: Oh, man.

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Speaker 3: I know. Sorry, we haven't done a live show in

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Speaker 3: a while. This is insanely exciting.

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Speaker 2: It really is. Also, I don't even know what my

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Speaker 2: at like, almost 1pm and.

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Speaker 1: Then I was like 20 minutes later I texted you

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Speaker 1: you had texted me you just woke up 20 minutes

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Speaker 1: later I was like I just woke up I beat

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Speaker 1: you we don't know where.

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Speaker 2: We are it's crazy guys it's a whole day this

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Speaker 2: is interesting isn't it.

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Speaker 1: The last time we did a show was in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles where we live. So it was all our friends.

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Speaker 1: You live there too.

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Speaker 3: So it was all my family.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting is Los Angeles is a part of the UK.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing. It seems like a lot of

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Speaker 2: people don't understand. So that's our message on the European tour.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is to really get the word about LA. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's being connected to. We've started a GoFundMe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's important work.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: Oh, can you talk about all the people coming to

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Speaker 3: Just what we found out.

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Speaker 2: Well, we stayed indoors because, you know, when we go

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Speaker 2: we like to save up all the work we're supposed

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Speaker 3: It at the hotel like the day before.

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Speaker 1: In a panic.

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Speaker 3: It's really fun. It's best for storytelling. Yeah. Just to

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, well, the first experience I had was, I don't

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the weather, you guys.

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Speaker 2: I brought all kinds of cashmere sweaters and layers and

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Speaker 3: And instead, it's like, what the fuck? Yeah. So when

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys do it, 14 degrees

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Speaker 3: I mean, higher is hotter. Well, it was like, to us.

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Speaker 2: It was 90. So I'm just standing there, and I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, hotel thermostats are, they're just a plastic thing

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Speaker 2: To make you feel like you have control over your environment,

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Speaker 2: I was like, sorry, can somebody come up here and

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Speaker 2: fix this thermostat? And they're like, we'll send someone.

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Speaker 3: I love fix it because it's not, it's broken.

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Speaker 2: It's totally broken. It's not me.

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Speaker 3: I did the same thing. Vince, it's broken. Fix it.

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Speaker 2: Not user error at all. So quick, pretty soon after

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Speaker 2: someone knocks the door, I open the door. it looks

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Speaker 2: like a younger, hotter, MMA Gerard Butler.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what?

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Speaker 2: What? What? I have no relatives that look like you.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on? I was not ready.

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Speaker 1: A bonus is that you, it was just when you

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Speaker 1: all your shit, like my whole room is a fucking

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Speaker 1: pig's eye by like, you know, 24 hours after I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I was, I looked very tidy. Well, my

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Speaker 2: things look very tidy, but I clearly have been traveling

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Speaker 2: for 12 hours. So I was kind of like, hi,

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Speaker 2: trying to turn to the side, you know, like, come

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Speaker 2: on in, suck, suck, suck. And he, of course, goes

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Speaker 2: over to the fucking thermostat and he presses one button

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Speaker 2: and it kicks on immediately. I was just like, Fine,

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Speaker 2: it was a trick to get you in here. Fine,

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Speaker 2: you might as well stay. But this was my favorite

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Speaker 2: and I've never heard this slang before. When he went

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Speaker 2: being dramatic. It was really hot.

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Speaker 3: It was really fucking hot.

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Speaker 1: Fair, I get it.

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Speaker 2: But then I turned the TV on and I kind

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Speaker 2: of couldn't make it go. I'm like, I should fucking

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You're a pre-intro kickoff. Hey, what are you wearing?

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Speaker 2: She's already looking at the notes. What are we... What the... Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm sweating.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm sweating, and I forgot to bring deodorant on this

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Speaker 1: going to smell like a fucking dude.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it. Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Smell that. That smells like going to a dance, like

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Speaker 2: dancing with a guy that's in junior high.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ew.

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Speaker 3: When was the last time you did that?

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of nervous.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while. But I miss it. I miss

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Speaker 1: It's kind of better than mine, though, because it's, like,

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Speaker 1: clear and stuff, so I'm not getting, like, those, you know, cancers.

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Speaker 1: Guys have everything better.

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Speaker 2: You're so obsessed with going to Boots and getting some

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Speaker 1: Boots?

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Speaker 2: Boots? I can't.

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Speaker 3: That was such a weird.

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Speaker 1: You're just yelling boots back at us.

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Speaker 2: And in a way that we can't tell if you

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Speaker 3: You're like, yes, boots.

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Speaker 1: Don't go there. Somehow we're saying.

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Speaker 3: The word, the B-O-O-T-S word wrong.

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Speaker 1: Boots.

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Speaker 2: You tell us. How do you say it?

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Speaker 1: She doesn't know. Nobody knows.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows. We're not mispronouncing fucking boots. That I know.

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Speaker 1: That I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm so mad already. The show just started.

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Speaker 1: We're out of here.

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Speaker 2: Boots.

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Speaker 1: You were going to pick one person to be the translator.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Is there anybody that's from Dublin that's sitting near the front?

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Speaker 3: I think they look nice.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Are you suspicious in any way? We're not going to

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Speaker 2: What's your name? Emily. It's Emily.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: As this show goes, thanks, lighting guy.

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Speaker 2: As this show goes on, when we mispronounce things or

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Speaker 2: something and we're totally wrong, Emily, you just throw a

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Speaker 2: hand up, would you please?

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Speaker 3: And then we'll come and consult with you.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I think we need to do this every show.

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Speaker 1: She already has her hand up. Man, she's going to

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Speaker 1: get so tired. Her arm's going to get carpal tunnel.

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Speaker 2: My sister has something.

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Speaker 5: I'm her sister.

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Speaker 2: It's not phallic.

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Speaker 1: It's Gaelic. Gaelic?

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Speaker 3: I fucking said Gaelic.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you know what?

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Speaker 1: You're out. You're both out.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that sister shit. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: What's your name?

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Speaker 1: Louise.

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Speaker 2: Louise. Do you think that I said Gaelic or Gaelic?

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Speaker 3: No, you said Gaelic.

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Speaker 2: I fucking said Gaelic, Emily's sister. I said Gaelic. Oh, shit.

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Speaker 2: She's been drinking since three.

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Speaker 3: Escorted out, please.

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Speaker 2: Immediately kicked out of the show you've been waiting to see. Sorry, Sorry, wait.

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Speaker 2: Tell me your name again. Louise. It's Louise. Great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: one of us.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to go to a store and buy

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Speaker 1: a bunch of shit, basically, is what we're trying to say.

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Speaker 1: If it's a store named Boots, Pennies. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be Pennies.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you... Okay. JC Pennies?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that. Pennies is better than Boots. Ha ha ha.

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Speaker 2: Oh man pennies is the shit louise says pennies is

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Speaker 2: good emily so.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're going with um.

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Speaker 1: We were i i feel horrible right now because we

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Speaker 1: were at a we were at a bar that's for

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Speaker 1: tourists last night which we didn't know until we were

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Speaker 1: there it's the oldest bar in you know fucking the

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Speaker 1: And she's telling this dude who literally has no fucking

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Speaker 3: One cares how long it took you to get anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're going to be boring, please whisper.

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Speaker 2: That's... Americans. Americans.

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Speaker 3: We're not... Listen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Whispering for everybody else is normal talking. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Whispering for us.

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Speaker 3: Night who when we went through... Do we go through customs?

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Speaker 3: He was like, he was this great little guy and he,

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Speaker 3: He was fine. He was like a normal sized person.

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Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, what are you, you

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Speaker 6: Don't make me do the accent in front of people

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.

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Speaker 2: But I can't accuse the customs guy of being fake

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Speaker 3: How's that?

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Speaker 1: And then we were like, where are you? Because it's

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Speaker 3: We're doing a comedy show.

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Speaker 2: We're doing a live podcast.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to tell a guy who's letting us

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it turns out we love murder, and so

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Speaker 2: we've come to your country to visit. For murder.

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Speaker 1: We've just been studying your murders here.

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Speaker 2: Just interested in how you kill and where you kill. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Not really why, but.

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Speaker 2: So he just said, we're here to do a live podcast.

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Speaker 2: And then he said, what's the name of it? And

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Speaker 2: George just said, my favorite murder. And he goes, oh, right.

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Speaker 2: I heard all about it. There was a girl, an

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Speaker 2: American lass came through here on Friday and she told

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Speaker 1: She was insane.

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Speaker 6: See?

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Speaker 1: You can't talk about murder and.

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Speaker 3: Still chill.

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Speaker 2: Just doing an impression of my grandmother. That's all.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how accurate it is.

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Speaker 1: And we found out her name and I forgot it,

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Speaker 2: There are people just on the ground explaining to strangers

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Speaker 3: Karen invited him to the show. I did.

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Speaker 1: She's clearly not here or she'd be screaming at this point,

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Speaker 1: I feel like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 2: Are you here? No.

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Speaker 1: That's, no.

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Speaker 2: Really? No. That sounded like a cat just got murdered

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Speaker 1: Let's make that girl come up here and fucking explain

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Speaker 3: No, I would never do that.

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Speaker 2: So then we went outside the airport and we got

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Speaker 2: central casting of like a gruff Irish cab driver. Uh-huh.

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Speaker 2: He had no interest in us at all. He was

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yelled at a guy who was like crossing too

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Speaker 3: I was like, yes, I like this guy.

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Speaker 2: Yes. He like yelled out the window. Out the open window.

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Speaker 1: Go slower.

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Speaker 2: Go slower. He yelled sarcasm. That's how you know you're

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Speaker 2: in Ireland. It wasn't rage based sarcasm. It was pure sarcasm.

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Speaker 3: I actually, Georgia got into the back seat.

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Speaker 2: Vince went to get in the back seat, so I

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Speaker 3: Guess what she did?

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Speaker 2: Walked around, went to get into the driver's side.

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 3: I was so shocked by that steering wheel. I was like,

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Speaker 3: what kind of car is this?

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Speaker 2: Is this a trainer car where you learn how to

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Speaker 3: See, we drive on the other side, you guys. That's

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Speaker 3: the explanation.

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Speaker 2: It's so different.

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Speaker 1: Um.

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Speaker 2: And of course I was immediately so embarrassed and turned

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Speaker 3: And then got him.

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Speaker 2: Again, a joke that comes off as anger and rage,

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Speaker 2: but you're just like, oh, but you're kidding. I was

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Speaker 2: like trying to explain to Georgia, like, that's why I

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Speaker 3: I get it a little. I get it.

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: There's a gruff love to everything. It's kind of a

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Speaker 2: like holding back, watching you, judging you, loving you. Oh. Right? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's how you do it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I think I get you a little

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Speaker 1: more now. And then it's like, well, when you're drunk

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Speaker 1: and be like, I want to tell you a secret.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I actually really like you, even though I don't.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: It's not. We don't act all nice because that's lame.

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Speaker 2: You act like people bug you until you figure out

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Speaker 2: whether or not they have a sense of humor. And

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Speaker 2: then you like them. Yeah. Or at least that's how

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Speaker 2: me and the cab driver do it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's... It's a generalization.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's everybody.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's like, she's totally wrong.

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Speaker 1: And she's calling us assholes at the same time.

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Speaker 3: That's how we kick off the show. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: this is my favorite murder. My favorite murder.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's Karen Kilgariff.

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Speaker 2: That's Georgia Hartster. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Dublin, God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. Oh,

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Speaker 3: tell them about your plunging neckline.

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Speaker 2: I forgot my slip. So usually we don't bring the

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Speaker 2: girls out like this.

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Speaker 3: It's not my style. Usually a two-person show. But now

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Speaker 3: we're a quartet.

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Speaker 2: I just figured 2018, we're going to have the girls

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Speaker 2: start earning their keep. And really, you know, they've had

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Speaker 2: a free ride for so long. Right.

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Speaker 3: Tits out.

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Speaker 1: My favorite murder.

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Speaker 2: Tits out. In 2018.

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Speaker 1: I am the opposite kind of person. And I took

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Speaker 1: my black bra that I brought along special for the occasion.

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Speaker 3: Your special show bra.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And when we were on the plane, I did the thing.

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Speaker 3: I took it off. Because I'm like, I wear to the,

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Speaker 3: what is it called?

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Speaker 2: Airport.

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Speaker 3: Just to be like, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not horrible. Like you can serve me stuff and

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Speaker 1: I'm not the worst.

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Speaker 2: This is what society wants from you.

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Speaker 3: Wear a bra at the airport.

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Speaker 1: Like just be glad I'm not wearing sweats. So I

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Speaker 1: And then I'm like, I'll get it later. Then I

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Speaker 3: If you want it, it's yours.

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Speaker 2: That's a freebie for the next person. Right. People would

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Speaker 2: be like, is this a thong that someone snapped in half?

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Speaker 1: But the point is, that's why I'm wearing a white

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Speaker 1: bra and I apologize.

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Speaker 3: It's fucking tacky as shit. My mom would be so

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Speaker 3: pissed off at me.

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Speaker 6: Georgia!

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Speaker 3: It's very day class A.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But it doesn't matter because we're not in the UK.

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Speaker 3: You know how those UK people are.

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Speaker 2: No rule of supply. Woo! Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We don't care here.

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Speaker 2: Woo!

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Speaker 3: Exactly. And when I go to Penny's, I'll get a bra.

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Speaker 3: I can do that. Fucking pandering, pandering, pandering.

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Speaker 2: Saying words we don't know what they mean, so you

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Speaker 2: will cheer for us.

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Speaker 1: Yay!

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Speaker 2: It's the best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Stephen's not here, as we said. Just to bring

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Speaker 3: it down.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he got that. Let's talk about how we really feel.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Stephen.

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Speaker 3: Everyone misses you.

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Speaker 1: No, he's being very sweet and sending lots of photos

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Speaker 1: of the cats.

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Speaker 3: Like, close-ups, though. In a way that I don't... I

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Speaker 2: What if when you come back from this trip, the

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Speaker 2: cats have somehow written you a note that's like, Stephen's

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Speaker 2: too intense for us. We don't... We can't be cat-sat

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Speaker 1: We know that you think your dad hates cats. We

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Speaker 2: We're standoffish.

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Speaker 3: We want them to be standoffish.

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Speaker 2: Stephen's like.

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Speaker 1: And then but then he did a thing oh he's

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Speaker 1: good he fucking did a thing where like last night

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Speaker 1: he was editing a mini episode for this week and

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Speaker 1: he wrote like oh you Elvis heard your voice and

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Speaker 1: came over and like Elvis is right there listening to

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Speaker 1: my voice which isn't true no he's not he's a

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Speaker 3: Oh my god my baby you.

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Speaker 1: Know but I know I'm not fucking stupid like he's

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Speaker 1: a cat I think.

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Speaker 2: I'm really rubbing off on you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's probably true.

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Speaker 2: No he's not he's a cat although that's not true

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Speaker 2: because it really is true at this point by the

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00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,580
Speaker 2: time we're done recording at Georgia's apartment It's almost like

459
00:19:59,619 --> 00:20:01,860
Speaker 2: he knows that in like two hours or an hour

460
00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:02,980
Speaker 2: and a half have gone by.

461
00:20:03,020 --> 00:20:04,179
Speaker 3: He's like, wrap it the fuck up.

462
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,100
Speaker 2: Because he comes and sits on her lap. And the

463
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: second she says Elvis, do you want to go?

464
00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 1: He's like, meow.

465
00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:10,510
Speaker 2: Like he knows. He now knows it.

466
00:20:10,619 --> 00:20:13,090
Speaker 1: When we're like toning it down and we're like, all right,

467
00:20:13,109 --> 00:20:14,170
Speaker 1: this has gone on for too long.

468
00:20:14,570 --> 00:20:16,189
Speaker 3: He's like sitting on, yeah, he comes up.

469
00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:17,030
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows.

470
00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:20,290
Speaker 1: I know he's a cat, but he's really smart. Like

471
00:20:20,330 --> 00:20:21,570
Speaker 1: Siamese are really smart.

472
00:20:21,810 --> 00:20:24,310
Speaker 3: He's just, he's so handsome. Yeah.

473
00:20:26,650 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 2: I would like to say I was here in, I

474
00:20:29,130 --> 00:20:32,300
Speaker 2: think it was 2001. I came to visit just for

475
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,300
Speaker 2: a vacation. And this is just a fun story that

476
00:20:35,340 --> 00:20:35,820
Speaker 2: I remembered.

477
00:20:35,859 --> 00:20:36,430
Speaker 3: My friend and I.

478
00:20:36,420 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: Go ahead. My friend and I.

479
00:20:37,859 --> 00:20:38,260
Speaker 3: Thank you.

480
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,220
Speaker 2: I'm going to take my time. Could I get a spotlight?

481
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,820
Speaker 2: My friend and I got into a rental car. I

482
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: just fall backwards and die. What a way to go.

483
00:20:50,540 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: Um....

484
00:20:52,830 --> 00:20:54,870
Speaker 2: We got a rental car and I was the only

485
00:20:55,030 --> 00:20:56,790
Speaker 2: one that had the guts to drive it. It was

486
00:20:56,830 --> 00:20:58,850
Speaker 2: a fucking stick shift and we were driving on the

487
00:20:58,869 --> 00:21:02,609
Speaker 2: wrong side of the road. And we just decided we

488
00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:06,330
Speaker 2: had a map. This was like pre, you know, modern life.

489
00:21:06,690 --> 00:21:07,970
Speaker 2: So we had a paper map.

490
00:21:08,170 --> 00:21:10,070
Speaker 3: Oh my God. And we were just like, let's just

491
00:21:10,109 --> 00:21:11,710
Speaker 3: drive up one of these highways.

492
00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:13,129
Speaker 2: It's got a letter and a number.

493
00:21:13,150 --> 00:21:13,740
Speaker 1: See where we go.

494
00:21:13,770 --> 00:21:15,169
Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens.

495
00:21:15,210 --> 00:21:16,810
Speaker 3: Let's like just play it by ear.

496
00:21:16,970 --> 00:21:20,050
Speaker 2: We went as far up the West Coast as we could.

497
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 2: And by like... We ended up getting out of the car.

498
00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how we found this. I think it

499
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,379
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know. We basically went up to

500
00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:32,959
Speaker 2: a fence. We opened it and closed it. What?

501
00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:35,409
Speaker 3: I don't think you're supposed to do that.

502
00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:40,710
Speaker 2: Well, and we walked over this hill. And it was right,

503
00:21:40,810 --> 00:21:42,670
Speaker 2: we were on the coast, right? So we walked right

504
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,419
Speaker 2: down to the edge of the world. What? To the

505
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,929
Speaker 2: edge of this island. And we're like, holy fuck. And

506
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:51,550
Speaker 2: it was like an insanely high drop.

507
00:21:51,650 --> 00:21:54,030
Speaker 3: It was, you know, several stories. Like the cliffs and things?

508
00:21:54,330 --> 00:21:56,669
Speaker 2: Yeah. We sat on the edge of it with our

509
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,980
Speaker 2: feet over the side. And we're like, this is amazing.

510
00:22:00,020 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 2: And then this like storm rolls in so we can

511
00:22:02,420 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: see the clouds coming down. Like, it was unbelievable. We're

512
00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:08,369
Speaker 2: just sitting here like, this is amazing, whatever. So before

513
00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:10,389
Speaker 2: it gets close to us and starts raining, we got

514
00:22:10,450 --> 00:22:10,929
Speaker 2: up and we walked back.

515
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:12,750
Speaker 3: I'm, like, worried about it. I'm sitting here like, oh,

516
00:22:12,770 --> 00:22:13,830
Speaker 3: is she going to be okay?

517
00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: It was, like, fucking 20 years ago, and I'm worried.

518
00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: And then I take my leg off.

519
00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: That's the day. Oh, my God.

520
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 6: She's been saving it this whole time.

521
00:22:24,660 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 2: I had to save it for Dublin. No, but we

522
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: get up and we leave and we go to the,

523
00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 2: we check into like whatever hotel we find in the

524
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,620
Speaker 2: little city that's near there. And when we check in,

525
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,150
Speaker 2: the guy at the counter says, oh, you should go

526
00:22:37,770 --> 00:22:41,570
Speaker 2: check out the cliffs. And he goes, but be careful,

527
00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:44,330
Speaker 2: don't go near the side. Tourists die up there all

528
00:22:44,369 --> 00:22:46,530
Speaker 2: the time. They get blown right off the side all

529
00:22:46,550 --> 00:22:49,780
Speaker 2: the time. No. We fucking went and sat. No.

530
00:22:50,140 --> 00:22:51,820
Speaker 3: Like, literally swung our legs.

531
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,060
Speaker 2: We're like, this is such a great vacation.

532
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,750
Speaker 3: And, like, we both just went all white. We're like,

533
00:22:57,790 --> 00:22:58,370
Speaker 3: sounds good.

534
00:22:58,410 --> 00:22:58,910
Speaker 4: Yeah, we won't.

535
00:22:59,530 --> 00:23:02,310
Speaker 3: We won't do that at all. This is why I

536
00:23:02,350 --> 00:23:04,129
Speaker 3: have anxiety, to save my life.

537
00:23:04,190 --> 00:23:05,110
Speaker 2: Yes.

538
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:05,950
Speaker 3: I save lives.

539
00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:07,430
Speaker 2: Can we sit?

540
00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: Because I've never sweated so much in my fucking life. Yeah,

541
00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm totally sweating. All right, let's sit down.

542
00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:12,379
Speaker 3: Let's sit down. Look at these.

543
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:16,090
Speaker 2: These are good.

544
00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:18,890
Speaker 3: These chairs are from a disco, aren't they?

545
00:23:18,910 --> 00:23:19,810
Speaker 1: Yeah.

546
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:21,910
Speaker 3: These are legit comedy club chairs.

547
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: There we go.

548
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:24,340
Speaker 3: It goes down a little.

549
00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. There we go. Don't worry, I shaved my legs,

550
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:30,739
Speaker 1: which is great, because you guys are so close. But

551
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,500
Speaker 1: I'm sweating profusely.

552
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: It's hot. It's summertime. It's not Q & A.

553
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: Oh, my God, she has deodorant.

554
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:38,220
Speaker 2: She has deodorant.

555
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: Are you serious? It's yours?

556
00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:43,510
Speaker 2: It's yours?

557
00:23:45,250 --> 00:23:46,909
Speaker 3: She just found it on the ground, I think.

558
00:23:47,030 --> 00:23:48,070
Speaker 2: It's fucking brute.

559
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: It's brute. What is happening? Oh, she's putting it on.

560
00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:55,380
Speaker 2: Thank you.

561
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 3: What's your name?

562
00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:57,260
Speaker 1: Darryl.

563
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,869
Speaker 2: Darryl? How come you bring deodorant to comedy shows?

564
00:24:00,890 --> 00:24:02,310
Speaker 3: Is this yours or did you find it on the ground?

565
00:24:02,410 --> 00:24:02,820
Speaker 3: It's yours?

566
00:24:03,210 --> 00:24:03,859
Speaker 1: Thank you.

567
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,860
Speaker 2: For moments like this. Whoa. You don't.

568
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 6: No.

569
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,340
Speaker 3: I would never do that.

570
00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:15,659
Speaker 2: And a quick uh-uh. Thank you so much.

571
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,550
Speaker 3: Thank you. The whole place engulfs in flames. Good call.

572
00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:22,230
Speaker 3: Thank you.

573
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:26,250
Speaker 1: Shit. What are the chances?

574
00:24:26,670 --> 00:24:28,859
Speaker 2: Do you have any head bandages?

575
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,140
Speaker 3: Cause I'm going to need those later. This is okay.

576
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:36,020
Speaker 2: And now it really smells like a seventh grade boy

577
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: out here. It's strong.

578
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:42,490
Speaker 1: It's strong, but it's, I'm not sweating. It's just staying

579
00:24:42,530 --> 00:24:44,750
Speaker 1: in my body and and toxing me.

580
00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:45,230
Speaker 2: Good.

581
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:46,490
Speaker 3: Instead of detoxing me.

582
00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:46,810
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

583
00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:47,350
Speaker 1: You know.

584
00:24:47,970 --> 00:24:48,610
Speaker 2: That's what we want.

585
00:24:48,750 --> 00:24:51,010
Speaker 3: That's what we want. It's probably in my water. Let's

586
00:24:51,030 --> 00:24:53,550
Speaker 3: have a sip. All right, we didn't decide who's going

587
00:24:53,570 --> 00:24:54,149
Speaker 3: to go first.

588
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Right?

589
00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 3: Because now we're all off.

590
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,860
Speaker 2: We recorded like four episodes before we left to cover us.

591
00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:02,020
Speaker 3: While we were gone.

592
00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: And then we usually have photos and Stephen puts them

593
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: in order. But we thought it would be better to

594
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,380
Speaker 1: be more intimate and not have photos.

595
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:09,700
Speaker 2: No, you don't need photos.

596
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: That's why. You're clapping.

597
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:15,830
Speaker 2: You don't know why you're clapping. Because I hate photos.

598
00:25:18,190 --> 00:25:19,410
Speaker 3: I can't see that great.

599
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:21,170
Speaker 2: Anyway. I can't see so good.

600
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: Do you want to go first?

601
00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: Do you want me to go first?

602
00:25:23,740 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: We usually were going to decide based on whose murder

603
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:27,969
Speaker 1: would be better to end on.

604
00:25:28,510 --> 00:25:33,850
Speaker 3: Less of a bummer. How recent is yours?

605
00:25:33,850 --> 00:25:33,909
Speaker 2: 2001.

606
00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:36,109
Speaker 3: I think you should go first. Okay.

607
00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:40,740
Speaker 2: This is a true crime slash comedy podcast. So that

608
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: can be a little delicate.

609
00:25:42,859 --> 00:25:43,980
Speaker 3: It's a conversation.

610
00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:47,270
Speaker 2: We talk about heavy shit, but sometimes we're lighthearted about it.

611
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,740
Speaker 3: If that's going to bother you, you should get the

612
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,459
Speaker 3: fuck out right now.

613
00:25:54,990 --> 00:25:57,290
Speaker 1: I'd also like to say that those of you who

614
00:25:57,330 --> 00:25:59,750
Speaker 1: did wandering off the street thinking that this wasn't going

615
00:25:59,770 --> 00:26:01,830
Speaker 1: to be like this because my name is George on

616
00:26:01,850 --> 00:26:04,310
Speaker 1: the ticket, and you thought that maybe there'd be at

617
00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:07,570
Speaker 1: least one man up here taking care of shit.

618
00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,370
Speaker 3: You've been misinformed, get the fuck out of here.

619
00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:11,730
Speaker 1: My name is Georgia.

620
00:26:12,890 --> 00:26:16,030
Speaker 2: What if there's somebody in the audience that's like, I

621
00:26:16,050 --> 00:26:18,030
Speaker 2: was guaranteed a man would be on stage.

622
00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:19,820
Speaker 3: What are they going to do?

623
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: They have no guidance or leadership.

624
00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:32,270
Speaker 3: And we're back.

625
00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:35,050
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. This show is legendary.

626
00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:37,330
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's our first one in Europe.

627
00:26:37,390 --> 00:26:39,830
Speaker 1: And I can't believe we went to Europe on a

628
00:26:39,869 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: podcast that we created and just like went and toured.

629
00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:45,420
Speaker 3: That's so crazy.

630
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: It's so funny to think of the beginning of the

631
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: idea of touring that at least I had in my

632
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,250
Speaker 2: head because I'd seen other podcasts tour before. And other

633
00:26:54,270 --> 00:26:57,670
Speaker 2: podcast touring was kind of a long table that you'd

634
00:26:57,690 --> 00:27:00,950
Speaker 2: set up at a spaghetti feed with three dudes sitting

635
00:27:01,030 --> 00:27:02,330
Speaker 2: at it talking.

636
00:27:02,050 --> 00:27:04,410
Speaker 3: To each other. Like a pie-eating contest.

637
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. So... Yeah. The idea that what we turned it

638
00:27:09,310 --> 00:27:12,810
Speaker 2: into for ourselves is what I love the most because

639
00:27:12,850 --> 00:27:14,350
Speaker 2: it's like, oh yeah, we don't have to do it

640
00:27:14,410 --> 00:27:15,470
Speaker 2: the way we've seen it done.

641
00:27:15,490 --> 00:27:17,129
Speaker 3: Yeah. And they were very intellectual.

642
00:27:17,170 --> 00:27:19,830
Speaker 1: It seemed like that's the only podcast set to where

643
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:22,710
Speaker 1: we're intellectual or last podcast on the left doing it

644
00:27:22,730 --> 00:27:25,330
Speaker 1: in their like crazy way. And I think that was

645
00:27:25,369 --> 00:27:28,090
Speaker 1: so great that we just like, we didn't add any frills.

646
00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:31,050
Speaker 1: We just fucking sat at chairs and a table and

647
00:27:31,109 --> 00:27:33,780
Speaker 1: just did the show, which is perfect for us.

648
00:27:34,060 --> 00:27:37,300
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. But I think the standing at the beginning,

649
00:27:37,340 --> 00:27:41,300
Speaker 2: it was us in the audience doing stuff. And then

650
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,140
Speaker 2: it was kind of like, well, of course we have

651
00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:45,910
Speaker 2: to stand up at the beginning because there's all kinds

652
00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:47,869
Speaker 2: of business going on and we want to be down

653
00:27:48,490 --> 00:27:51,930
Speaker 2: seeing how people are dressed and what they're talking about.

654
00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:54,670
Speaker 2: But in this, I don't know if you remember this

655
00:27:55,030 --> 00:27:58,330
Speaker 2: theater we were in because it was pretty small, really dark.

656
00:27:58,970 --> 00:28:02,890
Speaker 2: So it kind of felt like It was really intimate.

657
00:28:03,030 --> 00:28:03,290
Speaker 3: Yeah.

658
00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:05,370
Speaker 1: It felt like the Elysian or something like that, where

659
00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: it's just small and tight, but it wasn't.

660
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: It was big. And someone's cousin was in the audience.

661
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:16,460
Speaker 2: Everyone's worst fear coming true. And it worked out great. Yeah.

662
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,220
Speaker 2: It felt like we were in somebody's very dark living room.

663
00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:21,990
Speaker 2: When I call it up in my mind, it was

664
00:28:22,010 --> 00:28:24,310
Speaker 2: just like, we were all there together and it was

665
00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: small and intense. Like, The audience energy was really intense

666
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: in that room.

667
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,780
Speaker 1: And, you know, I remember our stories from this night

668
00:28:33,940 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: so well. I think yours especially, I think, is a

669
00:28:36,619 --> 00:28:40,420
Speaker 1: really big one there. And people were— I' d never heard of it.

670
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

671
00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:44,270
Speaker 3: And it was just so shocking. So should we get

672
00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:45,030
Speaker 3: into our stories?

673
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,910
Speaker 2: Let's do it. So we're going to start off with

674
00:28:46,950 --> 00:29:00,100
Speaker 2: George's story about Colin Whelan and the murder of Mary Goff. Okay.

675
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: You're fucking asking for it, dude.

676
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:07,020
Speaker 1: Full rotation. Okay, so mine, yeah. Good call on ending

677
00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:07,660
Speaker 1: on the later one.

678
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,020
Speaker 2: Okay.

679
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:08,770
Speaker 3: Okay.

680
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:12,390
Speaker 1: This is about the fucking asshole, Colin Whelan.

681
00:29:12,410 --> 00:29:12,470
Speaker 5: Oh.

682
00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:15,610
Speaker 1: Okay.

683
00:29:17,470 --> 00:29:18,030
Speaker 3: Just them.

684
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:18,750
Speaker 2: All right.

685
00:29:21,010 --> 00:29:24,250
Speaker 1: So Colin Whelan, he first meets 19-year-old Mary Gough.

686
00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: Gough? Gah, thank you.

687
00:29:26,610 --> 00:29:27,770
Speaker 2: Hold on, Louise.

688
00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: Gah, thank you. Sorry, we don't know how to read

689
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: in America. Or do you want to research, apparently? Watch one? Okay.

690
00:29:40,420 --> 00:29:41,580
Speaker 3: Gough, in 1993.

691
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:44,310
Speaker 1: So Mary is working at a pub called the Huntsman Inn.

692
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,850
Speaker 1: She's this lovely young lady. She was born in 1973.

693
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:52,050
Speaker 1: She's the only girl of six.

694
00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:52,710
Speaker 2: Oh, shit.

695
00:29:52,810 --> 00:29:54,770
Speaker 1: And she's the second to youngest, so these fucking dudes,

696
00:29:55,270 --> 00:29:58,050
Speaker 1: or her brothers, adore her. She's like the light of

697
00:29:58,070 --> 00:30:03,530
Speaker 1: the family. um colin he is born in 71 he's

698
00:30:03,550 --> 00:30:07,730
Speaker 1: born into like a nice middle-class family from gorse gorman's

699
00:30:07,810 --> 00:30:13,610
Speaker 1: town gormanston gormanston she doesn't even know what you're talking

700
00:30:13,670 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: about she doesn't know karen you say that.

701
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:22,770
Speaker 3: What gorman's town Really?

702
00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:24,510
Speaker 1: It's never what you think it's... You're always like, it

703
00:30:24,530 --> 00:30:26,610
Speaker 1: has to have some weird fucking sound in the middle

704
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:28,340
Speaker 1: of it, because everyone yells at us, and then it

705
00:30:28,390 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: just looks like.

706
00:30:29,170 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: We have PTSD.

707
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,100
Speaker 2: We have pronunciation PTSD. We have been verbally assaulted by

708
00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:39,660
Speaker 2: entire cities because we didn't say their fucking local town right.

709
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,140
Speaker 2: All across America, people have screamed and screamed at us,

710
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,330
Speaker 2: which started our... We began a crusade, and it's called

711
00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:48,470
Speaker 2: Spell It Like You Say It.

712
00:30:49,210 --> 00:30:51,690
Speaker 3: And we're just asking people to please.

713
00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:53,050
Speaker 1: All right.

714
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: Okay.

715
00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: So here we go.

716
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:56,860
Speaker 2: Yeah.

717
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,460
Speaker 1: So Collins from a better suburb of Dublin, he is

718
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: a computer analyst with a background in IT. He gets

719
00:31:06,140 --> 00:31:10,020
Speaker 1: this well-paid bank job with the banking giant Irish Permanent.

720
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,220
Speaker 3: You guys work there. They love it.

721
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,140
Speaker 1: This is their yearly conference tonight.

722
00:31:17,260 --> 00:31:19,180
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys had a holiday this weekend, we hear.

723
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You guys are way less shit-faced than I

724
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: would have expected for a bank holiday. And I want

725
00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:25,820
Speaker 1: to say we appreciate it.

726
00:31:26,530 --> 00:31:28,489
Speaker 2: I just love that week, I kept seeing commercials for

727
00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:31,370
Speaker 2: like furniture stores, but it was like bank holiday sale,

728
00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:33,050
Speaker 2: where I was like, what the fuck is this bank

729
00:31:33,090 --> 00:31:34,300
Speaker 2: holiday situation?

730
00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: It's a big deal.

731
00:31:36,380 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

732
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: So he works there for like nine years. He's big time.

733
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,940
Speaker 1: And so Mary's brothers describe her as beautiful, funny, intelligent, easygoing,

734
00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:49,460
Speaker 1: and a straight-talking girl. And Colin is her first boyfriend,

735
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:52,260
Speaker 1: which we all fucking know, except for the ones who

736
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:53,620
Speaker 1: married them, and they're here with him tonight.

737
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

738
00:31:54,750 --> 00:31:56,709
Speaker 3: We all know. Good cover, good cover. Thank you, thank you,

739
00:31:56,730 --> 00:31:57,030
Speaker 3: thank you.

740
00:31:57,050 --> 00:31:57,630
Speaker 2: Well done. Thank you.

741
00:31:58,630 --> 00:32:00,260
Speaker 3: There's always some girls like, I know, but.

742
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: I got a good one.

743
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:02,260
Speaker 1: You're like, all right, keep it.

744
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:02,660
Speaker 2: Fine.

745
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:12,790
Speaker 3: So, she's from Stalmolen. Stalmolen. Stalmolen. Close enough. Let Louise

746
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:13,070
Speaker 3: say it.

747
00:32:13,210 --> 00:32:13,550
Speaker 2: Louise.

748
00:32:14,350 --> 00:32:15,670
Speaker 3: She doesn't know.

749
00:32:15,690 --> 00:32:17,050
Speaker 2: You can't do it. We're back to Emily. Get her

750
00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:22,390
Speaker 2: out of here. What do you call it? Stalmolen. Stalmolen.

751
00:32:22,410 --> 00:32:23,210
Speaker 1: Stalmolen.

752
00:32:23,470 --> 00:32:23,930
Speaker 3: Stalmolen.

753
00:32:25,550 --> 00:32:25,790
Speaker 2: No?

754
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:29,770
Speaker 3: They're claiming that you want to see it. There's too many.

755
00:32:29,790 --> 00:32:30,950
Speaker 3: We'll be here all night.

756
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:41,420
Speaker 2: Spelling? Oh, oh. They're saying... I thought they were pronouncing

757
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: the word, so I said spellin', but they were like,

758
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: spell it. Oh. Spell the word. Oh, it's that city spellin'

759
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: over in, um, on the east side.

760
00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not saying any more places, so we're good.

761
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:55,739
Speaker 3: Spell the word and they'll tell you.

762
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna, because they asked the same thing and

763
00:32:57,980 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: then we.

764
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,380
Speaker 3: Yelled at them. Oh, I see, and then we attacked Louise.

765
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,030
Speaker 1: S-T-A-M-U-L-L-E-N.

766
00:33:03,550 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 6: And....

767
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:06,860
Speaker 2: But if everybody says it at the same time, it

768
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,100
Speaker 2: sounds like nothing. Do you understand? It can only be Louise.

769
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,260
Speaker 2: It's your big chance, Louise.

770
00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:13,980
Speaker 1: She hates it.

771
00:33:14,050 --> 00:33:17,150
Speaker 2: Shout it out. Stamolin.

772
00:33:19,810 --> 00:33:20,370
Speaker 3: Stamolin.

773
00:33:20,890 --> 00:33:22,290
Speaker 2: Yes. We might have to get you your own mic.

774
00:33:22,430 --> 00:33:23,410
Speaker 2: Give her that deodorant.

775
00:33:28,530 --> 00:33:33,150
Speaker 1: So Colin becomes Mary's very first boyfriend. And her mother,

776
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: they liked Colin, but her mother said that she thought

777
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: that Mary loved too much, loved him too much. I know.

778
00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: In August 1970, they start dating in.

779
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:42,790
Speaker 3: Where was I?

780
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:42,820
Speaker 2: 93.

781
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: In August of 97, Colin buys a house in Balbriggan.

782
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:58,340
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Feel it. Love it. Take it inside.

783
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,510
Speaker 3: I'm doing it. It's happening.

784
00:34:00,070 --> 00:34:01,310
Speaker 2: Your victory is real.

785
00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:05,650
Speaker 1: If you just keep failing, when you get one little victory,

786
00:34:05,670 --> 00:34:06,620
Speaker 1: people are like, good job.

787
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: In 98, they get engaged and they move in together.

788
00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:16,300
Speaker 1: So Mary's mother, Marie, has misgivings, of course, about Colin

789
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:18,500
Speaker 1: and the control that he exerted over her, saying that

790
00:34:19,420 --> 00:34:22,340
Speaker 1: he insisted she would dress down and not be, like, revealing,

791
00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: but meanwhile he was fucking checking out girls, ladies all

792
00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:26,580
Speaker 1: the time, you know.

793
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,190
Speaker 3: He would not approve of this dress. Absolutely not.

794
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it is a bit nuts.

795
00:34:31,060 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: LAUGHTER And then, so Mary, she's 27 now and she's

796
00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:42,390
Speaker 1: planning their September 2000 wedding. Meanwhile, he, Colin, makes a

797
00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:46,390
Speaker 1: visit to their financial planner secretly and he doubles their

798
00:34:46,430 --> 00:34:49,450
Speaker 1: life insurance policy so that the surviving partner would get

799
00:34:49,450 --> 00:34:52,370
Speaker 1: 400,000 euros.

800
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:55,810
Speaker 3: Of your money.

801
00:34:55,830 --> 00:34:57,690
Speaker 1: Euros.

802
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:59,730
Speaker 2: You know what your money is called and so do we,

803
00:34:59,770 --> 00:35:02,310
Speaker 2: so we don't even have to say it. It's a

804
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,860
Speaker 2: bank holiday. Let's stop talking about money.

805
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: You guys are so greedy. We don't want to talk

806
00:35:09,219 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: about money.

807
00:35:09,660 --> 00:35:12,180
Speaker 2: Don't be so superficial that you need to hear the

808
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: name of what your money is called.

809
00:35:17,989 --> 00:35:20,910
Speaker 1: So I would get 400,000 if one of them died

810
00:35:20,989 --> 00:35:23,410
Speaker 1: within 10 years of marriage, which seems like it shouldn't

811
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:25,530
Speaker 1: be a thing to be like betting on how long

812
00:35:25,570 --> 00:35:26,650
Speaker 1: they'll live in the marriage.

813
00:35:26,770 --> 00:35:27,450
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be allowed.

814
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: No, it's like, but if you die within five years,

815
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: you'll get this. This is not a fucking contest. In

816
00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: September 2000, after dating for seven years, excuse me, they're married.

817
00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:41,649
Speaker 3: Apparently allergies can come to Dublin with you.

818
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:43,060
Speaker 1: I mean, you're carry on.

819
00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:44,739
Speaker 3: Da-da-da-da-da.

820
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,990
Speaker 1: After dating seven years, they're married. And at this point,

821
00:35:48,010 --> 00:35:50,690
Speaker 1: Mary's working in a solicitor's office in Swords.

822
00:35:52,030 --> 00:35:52,510
Speaker 3: Swords.

823
00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:53,270
Speaker 2: Seriously?

824
00:35:53,290 --> 00:35:54,190
Speaker 1: What the fuck?

825
00:35:54,370 --> 00:35:56,109
Speaker 3: I tried to put a spin on it. Thank you.

826
00:35:56,570 --> 00:36:00,810
Speaker 3: You guys are so supportive. Okay.

827
00:36:01,370 --> 00:36:05,790
Speaker 1: And she's, of course, highly regarded by colleagues because fucking

828
00:36:06,489 --> 00:36:10,150
Speaker 1: everything sucks. So, Colin, which is the name of my ex-fiance, so,

829
00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:11,950
Speaker 1: of course, I fucking hate this guy even more.

830
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:12,660
Speaker 2: Okay.

831
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:14,930
Speaker 3: Stupid name.

832
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:19,089
Speaker 2: I love to hear the subtext of these stories. They're

833
00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:20,109
Speaker 2: just filled with rage.

834
00:36:20,210 --> 00:36:22,529
Speaker 1: Adding my own bullshit into this, like that I should

835
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:24,230
Speaker 1: take out in therapy instead of on stage.

836
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:26,790
Speaker 3: I think this is therapy.

837
00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean.

838
00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:30,270
Speaker 1: So that means I pay you guys $ 150 at the

839
00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: end of this.

840
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: $ 150 L with two lines in it.

841
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,380
Speaker 1: So after just four months of marriage, Colin starts an

842
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,630
Speaker 1: online relationship with a woman named Helen who lives in Wales.

843
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:47,009
Speaker 1: And he.

844
00:36:47,070 --> 00:36:47,910
Speaker 2: That's in the UK.

845
00:36:47,930 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. He says to her that he starts bragging about

846
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: how he's about to get 400 euros because his wife

847
00:36:59,940 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: had died in a car crash.

848
00:37:00,980 --> 00:37:02,020
Speaker 3: It might not be euros.

849
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: It is.

850
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: Let's consult Louise.

851
00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Pounds.

852
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: That's what I said.

853
00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:15,670
Speaker 3: Did not say that. Well, I didn't mean that. Thank

854
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:16,570
Speaker 3: you for catching that.

855
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:16,930
Speaker 2: Thank you.

856
00:37:16,930 --> 00:37:20,410
Speaker 1: 400,000 that's a lot.

857
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:21,580
Speaker 2: More I feel like I need to warn you now

858
00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:23,859
Speaker 2: Louise you are absolutely going to be attacked at some

859
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:27,299
Speaker 2: point but it's very vulnerable to have to go to

860
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: you for every fucking word you.

861
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:36,890
Speaker 1: Say we're gonna send you to therapy after this we

862
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:40,870
Speaker 1: understand 400,000 so he is bragging to this woman Helen

863
00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:44,030
Speaker 1: who has no fucking clue what's going on that yeah

864
00:37:44,090 --> 00:37:46,330
Speaker 1: his wife had died in a car accident years earlier

865
00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:48,290
Speaker 1: so he was gonna get that money And he made

866
00:37:48,330 --> 00:37:51,550
Speaker 1: up a nickname for her to call him, furry bear.

867
00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:55,550
Speaker 2: As opposed to what other kind of bear?

868
00:37:55,570 --> 00:37:58,420
Speaker 1: You know that sad one that you've seen without hair?

869
00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: Like a Chernobyl bear?

870
00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:01,380
Speaker 3: Yeah.

871
00:38:01,420 --> 00:38:04,100
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude.

872
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,540
Speaker 2: Redundant bear.

873
00:38:07,210 --> 00:38:10,410
Speaker 1: So the relationship gets intense. She's like, we're falling in love.

874
00:38:10,469 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: They email each other sometimes dozens of times a day.

875
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:17,300
Speaker 3: You remember that in 2001. Hot emails. Probably.

876
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,540
Speaker 1: Remember in 2001 when you can have an online relationship

877
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,540
Speaker 1: with someone and it like meant something? Yeah.

878
00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: And your friends weren't like, what the fuck.

879
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:24,860
Speaker 1: Are you doing?

880
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:25,140
Speaker 2: Yeah.

881
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,270
Speaker 3: Because we didn't know. Yeah. And they have phone calls.

882
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:34,570
Speaker 1: He sends her photos of him with his photo face,

883
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:39,140
Speaker 1: his face of his photo, superimposed over a fucking weightlifter's body. What?

884
00:38:40,820 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: And I think she finds out and thinks it's like funny,

885
00:38:42,860 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: but it's not.

886
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,810
Speaker 2: He doesn't, he does not mean it funny. It's not

887
00:38:46,830 --> 00:38:48,650
Speaker 2: like he's like, look, I'm a meme or anything.

888
00:38:48,670 --> 00:38:49,469
Speaker 3: It's before that.

889
00:38:49,489 --> 00:38:50,210
Speaker 2: There's no memes.

890
00:38:50,290 --> 00:38:52,290
Speaker 3: It's 2001. It's pre-meme time.

891
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:55,290
Speaker 2: It has. He, so I also bet that Photoshop is

892
00:38:55,330 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: insanely shitty. So it was like his head with a

893
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,340
Speaker 2: black ring around it. Yeah. Part of a bar in

894
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: the background.

895
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: Two ears, like his real ear and then the ear

896
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: from weightlifter.

897
00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 3: And of course, his face is.

898
00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:10,420
Speaker 2: Normal Irish white and then the bodybuilder's body is like

899
00:39:10,460 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: a hot dog's color.

900
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:17,330
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then they plan to meet for the first time.

901
00:39:17,350 --> 00:39:20,509
Speaker 1: He's like, makes up a bullshit thing that he's going

902
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:21,590
Speaker 1: to Germany for work.

903
00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:23,070
Speaker 2: To go get muscles.

904
00:39:23,370 --> 00:39:27,230
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so they plan.

905
00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: To meet on March 2nd, 2001. She's all excited about

906
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,020
Speaker 1: it and then doesn't hear from him after that. So

907
00:39:34,060 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: it turns out the day before they're set to meet

908
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: on February 28th, 2001, at 16 minutes past midnight, Colin

909
00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: calls 999. That's what you guys call it.

910
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: They know. I know. I know. I know.

911
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: I don't know why I told them.

912
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 2: We're having a heart adjustment, period.

913
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: And asks for an ambulance. He claims that his wife, Mary,

914
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,380
Speaker 1: had fallen down the stairs. He tells the operators he

915
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: didn't think she was breathing, and so he was talked

916
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,210
Speaker 1: through CPR and heart massaged by the operator and made

917
00:40:09,250 --> 00:40:10,730
Speaker 1: a show of carrying them out, of course.

918
00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:12,989
Speaker 3: We're not going to play the 911, 999 call, don't we?

919
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:13,130
Speaker 1: Okay.

920
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:17,930
Speaker 3: Because I would walk off the stage.

921
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: The ambulance arrives at 1230 and immediately.

922
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,460
Speaker 3: Paramedics are like, there's some shady shit going on.

923
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: They can tell because Mary's position was not consistent with

924
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,060
Speaker 1: someone who had fallen down the stairs or someone who

925
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:36,980
Speaker 1: had gotten CPR. And there's no blood on his face

926
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:38,739
Speaker 1: from having given her mouth to mouth, even though there's

927
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: blood on her face. So they also found Mary with

928
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,100
Speaker 1: a duvet or a quilt resting over her, which they

929
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,350
Speaker 1: thought was weird. And her body was too cold to

930
00:40:47,390 --> 00:40:51,410
Speaker 1: have had it just happen a half hour earlier. And

931
00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:55,180
Speaker 1: most telling, though, they found a blood-soaked towel around her neck.

932
00:40:55,969 --> 00:40:58,709
Speaker 1: And they work frantically to save her, and Colin coldly asks,

933
00:40:58,910 --> 00:41:01,450
Speaker 1: is she dead? And they were like, this is fucking

934
00:41:01,730 --> 00:41:05,700
Speaker 1: not okay. And then within minutes of Mary's arrival at

935
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,740
Speaker 1: the hospital, Beaumont Hospital, questions are raised from the medical staff.

936
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:12,020
Speaker 3: This nurse, Sister Catherine Galvin.

937
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:17,900
Speaker 1: She is like, what the fuck, you have scratches on

938
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: your chest.

939
00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:19,900
Speaker 3: And so goes over to Gardy.

940
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: Garda?

941
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: Garda. Garda. And it's like, yo, check this guy out.

942
00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:29,470
Speaker 2: Garty sounds like some dude that's standing in the corner

943
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:30,170
Speaker 2: at the hospital.

944
00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:31,590
Speaker 3: You know Garty?

945
00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:34,750
Speaker 2: He has a bunch of cigarettes. You can always bum

946
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:35,790
Speaker 2: a cigarette from Garty.

947
00:41:36,110 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: You know. So, yeah, so she notices that, and then

948
00:41:44,050 --> 00:41:46,690
Speaker 1: the doctor who's trying to resuscitate Mary notices marks on

949
00:41:46,750 --> 00:41:49,669
Speaker 1: her neck and chest, which suggests that she hadn't fallen

950
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:52,629
Speaker 1: down the stairs. And also at the hospital, Colin seems

951
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:56,029
Speaker 1: to have no remorse or no, like, sadness over Mary's death.

952
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:59,569
Speaker 1: Mary's mother, Marie, who is, of course, extremely close with

953
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,020
Speaker 1: her only daughter... goes up to him and is like

954
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: what happened and he she says I walked up to

955
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,540
Speaker 1: Colin and he was sitting with his head in his

956
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: hands and I said how's Mary and he just said

957
00:42:09,620 --> 00:42:12,140
Speaker 1: she was dead just like that I couldn't get over

958
00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:14,469
Speaker 1: it I'll never forget the way he answered me he

959
00:42:14,510 --> 00:42:16,569
Speaker 1: was just sitting there I was looking at everyone else

960
00:42:16,690 --> 00:42:18,850
Speaker 1: roaring and crying and I didn't know what to think

961
00:42:19,150 --> 00:42:23,170
Speaker 1: so that's fucking shady later that day Dr. Marie Cassidy

962
00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:26,489
Speaker 1: of the state pathologist company.

963
00:42:26,090 --> 00:42:27,690
Speaker 2: She made me.

964
00:42:29,489 --> 00:42:36,450
Speaker 1: She confirms the suspicions of Garda and says that she

965
00:42:36,469 --> 00:42:40,430
Speaker 1: had died of asphyxiation. The story of what really happened

966
00:42:40,450 --> 00:42:43,140
Speaker 1: that night was that as Mary was getting ready for bed,

967
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: Colin came up behind her with the belt of a

968
00:42:47,420 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: dressing gown and tries to strangle her, but she fucking

969
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,089
Speaker 1: fought like hell and scratched him up. And that's what

970
00:42:54,130 --> 00:42:57,790
Speaker 1: they saw at the hospital. And then she's unconscious. He

971
00:42:58,070 --> 00:43:01,230
Speaker 1: drags her down the stairs and sits and covers her

972
00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:05,589
Speaker 1: body with the blanket so that, um, he, he could

973
00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:08,810
Speaker 1: disguise her time of death, like trying to keep her warm,

974
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: which is fucking insane. And then has time to clean

975
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: up the crime scene. Um, and, but he overlooked traces

976
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,060
Speaker 1: of blood. So when they go through the house, they

977
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,950
Speaker 1: find all this shit. He's yeah. Uh, They search, and

978
00:43:22,969 --> 00:43:25,489
Speaker 1: then this guy is a fucking IT specialist with his

979
00:43:25,570 --> 00:43:30,070
Speaker 1: own company, and yet the Garda searched his computer and

980
00:43:30,930 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: found that within weeks of setting up the insurance policy

981
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: prior to their wedding, Colin was looking up different ways

982
00:43:37,219 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: to kill Mary. Fucking Googling this shit. I don't think

983
00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:43,020
Speaker 1: Google exists yet. What was it then?

984
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,020
Speaker 3: Ask Jeeves?

985
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,219
Speaker 2: He was binging that shit.

986
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: He was binging the shit out of it.

987
00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:53,660
Speaker 2: That was an innocent time, like 2001, where people thought, oh,

988
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: I'll just put this into my own computer and no

989
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,259
Speaker 2: one will be the wiser. Porn, porn, porn, porn, porn.

990
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,100
Speaker 2: And then you hit clear history. Clear history, you're done.

991
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,549
Speaker 2: It's cleared. What are cookies?

992
00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:07,350
Speaker 3: Elvis just walks out of the stage.

993
00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:12,649
Speaker 2: Oh, that'd be, oh my God. What if we don't

994
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:15,049
Speaker 2: bring Stephen on tour, but we do bring Elvis? That's

995
00:44:15,090 --> 00:44:20,470
Speaker 2: so insulting. That's just rude. Just plain rude.

996
00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:21,660
Speaker 3: That would be great.

997
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,860
Speaker 1: So some of the searches this fucking idiot goes for

998
00:44:28,020 --> 00:44:31,089
Speaker 1: are asphyxiation, loss of consciousness.

999
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: How long to take to die.

1000
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:37,899
Speaker 1: From asphyxiation, lack of oxygen to the brain, and death

1001
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,540
Speaker 1: by strangulation. He just should have put, I'm going to

1002
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: kill my wife in there.

1003
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: What should I do step by step?

1004
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,180
Speaker 2: Tell me exactly.

1005
00:44:47,260 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: But somehow, and I think it's probably because of arrogance,

1006
00:44:49,820 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: despite being a computer analyst, he just didn't realize that

1007
00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: they could trace every movement on.

1008
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: Him.

1009
00:44:56,739 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: So maybe didn't graduate at the top of his class.

1010
00:44:58,860 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: Probably not.

1011
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:03,180
Speaker 1: Another creepy thing found on his computer was a downloaded

1012
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,610
Speaker 1: transcript of a case from Northern Carolina regarding.

1013
00:45:07,730 --> 00:45:10,890
Speaker 3: North Carolina? Northern. Same thing.

1014
00:45:11,650 --> 00:45:12,469
Speaker 1: North Carolina.

1015
00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:14,029
Speaker 2: We know that one!

1016
00:45:14,070 --> 00:45:15,830
Speaker 3: Why do I have to put a spin on it?

1017
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:16,750
Speaker 4: I don't know!

1018
00:45:16,770 --> 00:45:20,250
Speaker 1: I have to, like, try to sound smarter, and I

1019
00:45:20,290 --> 00:45:20,850
Speaker 1: just sound stupid.

1020
00:45:20,910 --> 00:45:23,130
Speaker 2: Now you doubt every word on the page.

1021
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:23,950
Speaker 1: I do!

1022
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:26,420
Speaker 3: I'm so sweaty. Okay.

1023
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:29,750
Speaker 2: I am too, I am too. Okay, great. Um.

1024
00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: In North Carolina, which is in the northern part of Carolina.

1025
00:45:35,020 --> 00:45:40,670
Speaker 3: There's also South Carolina. Hi. All the fucking Carolinas.

1026
00:45:40,690 --> 00:45:40,860
Speaker 2: Shut up.

1027
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:45,700
Speaker 1: They're all here tonight, folks. Okay, there's a case there

1028
00:45:45,860 --> 00:45:49,219
Speaker 1: regarding death by strangulation that's really similar. Basically, he, like,

1029
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,009
Speaker 1: studied another fucking murder case. In both cases, the bodies

1030
00:45:53,050 --> 00:45:55,650
Speaker 1: were wrapped in a blanket to keep the body warm,

1031
00:45:56,489 --> 00:45:59,969
Speaker 1: and they both involved the use of a towel to

1032
00:46:00,050 --> 00:46:01,890
Speaker 1: hide the marks around a victim's neck.

1033
00:46:02,489 --> 00:46:02,890
Speaker 2: So....

1034
00:46:04,190 --> 00:46:07,590
Speaker 1: And they found out about the affair, and he had

1035
00:46:07,870 --> 00:46:11,890
Speaker 1: affairs both before and after marrying Mary, and he posted

1036
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:15,370
Speaker 1: on a number of dating sites trying to get sex,

1037
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:17,089
Speaker 1: and then other ones trying to get relationships.

1038
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,660
Speaker 3: He's just a real piece of shit. Why do the

1039
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: relationship one?

1040
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, not to be cynical. But

1041
00:46:25,340 --> 00:46:27,140
Speaker 2: isn't it, how much time do you have in your

1042
00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: fucking day?

1043
00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:30,980
Speaker 3: That fucking arrogance, man. It'll get you.

1044
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1045
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: So, okay, then, okay. A month after Mary's death on

1046
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,890
Speaker 1: April 10th, 2001, Collins charged with her murder. And the

1047
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:44,830
Speaker 1: case was going to make legal history in that it

1048
00:46:44,850 --> 00:46:48,129
Speaker 1: would have been the first time that virtual evidence was

1049
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:52,130
Speaker 1: crucial because the internet searches would have been central to

1050
00:46:52,170 --> 00:46:54,250
Speaker 1: securing a conviction. That was the first time that would happen,

1051
00:46:54,850 --> 00:46:56,030
Speaker 1: which is like, God, what an idiot.

1052
00:46:56,910 --> 00:46:56,969
Speaker 5: Um.

1053
00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:58,230
Speaker 3: You know?

1054
00:46:58,469 --> 00:46:58,569
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1055
00:46:58,590 --> 00:46:59,790
Speaker 3: That's your legacy? Yeah.

1056
00:46:59,870 --> 00:47:02,950
Speaker 2: No. You're an IT guy that is the first person

1057
00:47:02,989 --> 00:47:05,989
Speaker 2: to be prosecuted for virtual evidence.

1058
00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:06,490
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1059
00:47:06,510 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: Way to go. Irony. This is the irony.

1060
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,060
Speaker 1: He denies the fucking charges, of course, but the trial

1061
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:19,060
Speaker 1: is set for October 13, 2003, and he's fucking let

1062
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: on bail for some reason. It was going to be

1063
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,180
Speaker 1: seven months later, and they're like, go ahead and wait

1064
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: at your house or wherever you want. Like, Come on.

1065
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:31,069
Speaker 1: And so, of course, his car is found, shortly after

1066
00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:33,030
Speaker 1: his car is found, abandoned at Houth.

1067
00:47:34,110 --> 00:47:34,430
Speaker 2: Houth.

1068
00:47:34,750 --> 00:47:38,219
Speaker 3: Damn close. You wanted two choices on that one.

1069
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:38,950
Speaker 2: It was a 50-50.

1070
00:47:38,980 --> 00:47:39,180
Speaker 6: Right.

1071
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,100
Speaker 1: Houth, which is an outer suburb of Dublin, and it's

1072
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: on Uppercliff Road.

1073
00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:44,730
Speaker 2: Yay!

1074
00:47:47,050 --> 00:47:49,810
Speaker 1: Actually, it's on Uppercliff Road, which is a set of cliffs.

1075
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:51,210
Speaker 3: What if it's the one you were.

1076
00:47:51,110 --> 00:47:51,930
Speaker 2: Coming to see?

1077
00:47:51,989 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: I was there.

1078
00:47:52,739 --> 00:47:53,300
Speaker 2: You were there.

1079
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:54,020
Speaker 3: I was there.

1080
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:55,740
Speaker 1: It was in 2001, too.

1081
00:47:56,540 --> 00:47:57,819
Speaker 3: What if you looked over and you're like.

1082
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,620
Speaker 2: Wait, there was a man that was standing.

1083
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,650
Speaker 3: Now that I think about it, I can see a man.

1084
00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:10,100
Speaker 1: So they find his car on the cliffs, you know,

1085
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,020
Speaker 1: leading to people, some people assuming that he had committed suicide.

1086
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,660
Speaker 1: His car's there, all his belongings are in the car.

1087
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,580
Speaker 1: And I'm sure it was like, ooh, he committed suicide.

1088
00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: But Mary's family was like, fuck that shit. No, he didn't.

1089
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 3: They knew.

1090
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:30,150
Speaker 1: They were like, I wrote, of course Mary's family was like, oh,

1091
00:48:30,210 --> 00:48:30,690
Speaker 1: hell nah.

1092
00:48:31,070 --> 00:48:31,170
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1093
00:48:32,969 --> 00:48:35,730
Speaker 1: And they were convinced that Colin had faked his own death.

1094
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:38,109
Speaker 1: So they form a huge search party looking for him.

1095
00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:42,010
Speaker 1: But meanwhile, and it turned out they were right, of course. Meanwhile,

1096
00:48:42,210 --> 00:48:45,790
Speaker 1: Colin had stolen the identity of a neighbor named Martin Sweeney.

1097
00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:48,850
Speaker 1: And Martin had never applied for a passport. So fucking

1098
00:48:48,910 --> 00:48:53,270
Speaker 1: Colin goes, Martin's my dad's name. And Colin's my, wow.

1099
00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:54,410
Speaker 3: It's all coming together.

1100
00:48:54,430 --> 00:48:55,330
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.

1101
00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: So then he applied for a passport in this guy

1102
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,339
Speaker 1: Martin's name, gets the passport, and flees to Spain. He

1103
00:49:03,380 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: settles on an island called, and I wrote this phonetically, Mallorca.

1104
00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:10,660
Speaker 3: So that's the one you spell phonetically.

1105
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,300
Speaker 4: I know.

1106
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: The one nobody gives.

1107
00:49:13,390 --> 00:49:14,620
Speaker 2: A shit about.

1108
00:49:14,620 --> 00:49:17,569
Speaker 1: So I guess it's not it's an island that's not

1109
00:49:17,710 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: oftenly frequented by irish tourists are you drunk no you've

1110
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:26,339
Speaker 1: seen me for the past two hours backstage i'm i've

1111
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: just huffed a lot.

1112
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,180
Speaker 3: Of deodorant that's what it is she's high on brute.

1113
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,060
Speaker 1: So it uh and he gets a job a job

1114
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:38,310
Speaker 1: in a resort as a bartender And he's just, like,

1115
00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:41,130
Speaker 1: living it up, like, Kokomo style. And you, like, fucking.

1116
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:43,390
Speaker 3: You know he wore his shirt. Oh, yeah.

1117
00:49:43,410 --> 00:49:46,149
Speaker 2: Like, the first button was way down here. But he was, like,

1118
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:46,690
Speaker 2: super neat.

1119
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:48,069
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm a bodybuilder.

1120
00:49:48,090 --> 00:49:51,540
Speaker 3: It's me. It's me, the Irish bodybuilder.

1121
00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: Right.

1122
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: He fucking makes friends. He gets a girlfriend. He's like,

1123
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: this is my life now.

1124
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,730
Speaker 2: Asshole. Um.

1125
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:07,910
Speaker 1: But then he begins frequenting Irish bars in Palma Nova,

1126
00:50:08,070 --> 00:50:11,569
Speaker 1: which is like, you really like fucking number one and

1127
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:12,930
Speaker 1: hiding your identity is like.

1128
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: Don't go to the bar where.

1129
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: People who are from the place you're hiding from hang

1130
00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:17,739
Speaker 1: out at.

1131
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,580
Speaker 2: Hang out where you're going to get super drunk and

1132
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,379
Speaker 2: then start going, wait, where are you from?

1133
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,570
Speaker 1: Hi, so am I. And I tell you a secret.

1134
00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:28,969
Speaker 1: I tell you a secret.

1135
00:50:28,989 --> 00:50:33,750
Speaker 2: I have a great secret. Because you're my best friend.

1136
00:50:34,570 --> 00:50:35,830
Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you.

1137
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:37,250
Speaker 3: I know we just met.

1138
00:50:37,489 --> 00:50:43,299
Speaker 2: I can't. I killed people.

1139
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,620
Speaker 1: So, and he tells, he tells all his best friends

1140
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: that his parents are dead and he has no surviving relatives,

1141
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,910
Speaker 1: which is like red flag, I think, right? Yes. Unless

1142
00:50:54,969 --> 00:50:56,710
Speaker 1: it's real and then like, oh my God, I'm so sorry,

1143
00:50:56,730 --> 00:50:57,350
Speaker 1: I doubted you.

1144
00:50:57,370 --> 00:51:00,790
Speaker 3: It sucks. It can go one of two ways. Either

1145
00:51:00,830 --> 00:51:02,570
Speaker 3: you're the asshole or they're the asshole.

1146
00:51:02,590 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. but it's rare that somebody doesn't have like one

1147
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: old aunt sitting around somewhere.

1148
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:12,290
Speaker 1: Or like someone who they keep in touch with on

1149
00:51:12,310 --> 00:51:16,109
Speaker 1: Facebook from elementary school let's say like just one maybe

1150
00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: two okay so this of course this place Santa Ponsa

1151
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:27,100
Speaker 1: so he starts going to night spots in this other

1152
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: place Santa Ponsa that's like Ireland's favorite fucking place to

1153
00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: hang out outside of Ireland So, of course, in July

1154
00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:40,510
Speaker 1: of 2004, 16 motherfucking months after fleeing. That's a long time.

1155
00:51:40,530 --> 00:51:40,850
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

1156
00:51:41,350 --> 00:51:42,770
Speaker 3: That dude was spotted.

1157
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:45,410
Speaker 1: Colin's spotted at the bar by someone from Dublin who

1158
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: was like, um, and he gets extradited back to Ireland.

1159
00:51:50,620 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: Nice.

1160
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,620
Speaker 1: Yay!

1161
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:57,589
Speaker 2: Yay! That person is fucking saved up for their vacation

1162
00:51:57,610 --> 00:52:02,540
Speaker 2: to Santa Paula or whatever it's called. They're fucking half

1163
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: in the bag. Like, isn't it great to be the uh-oh?

1164
00:52:08,380 --> 00:52:10,620
Speaker 1: Or what if it was like, where do I know

1165
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,180
Speaker 1: you from?

1166
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,100
Speaker 3: Did we go to camp together?

1167
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: I know you.

1168
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,380
Speaker 3: I went to elementary school.

1169
00:52:16,460 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: Did we do highland dancing in grammar school together?

1170
00:52:19,580 --> 00:52:19,660
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1171
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,580
Speaker 3: Local references? You don't like?

1172
00:52:22,739 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: Okay.

1173
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:24,910
Speaker 3: They don't want it.

1174
00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:28,969
Speaker 2: They're like, stop generalizing about us. You don't know us.

1175
00:52:30,610 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: A friend at the bar, a friend that he had

1176
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,900
Speaker 1: worked with said, there's nothing out of the ordinary about you.

1177
00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:38,739
Speaker 3: They were all like, what the fuck? His girlfriend's devastated

1178
00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:41,459
Speaker 3: about the whole thing. Can you fucking imagine? Oh, my God.

1179
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:43,780
Speaker 3: She had no idea who he really was.

1180
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,649
Speaker 2: So she.

1181
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 3: The girlfriend thought he was dead too. She let him.

1182
00:52:48,340 --> 00:52:52,390
Speaker 1: No, no, no. The girl, Helen, girlfriend A is like,

1183
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,690
Speaker 1: it's like they knock on, he doesn't show up when

1184
00:52:55,710 --> 00:52:57,850
Speaker 1: he's supposed to. They knock on her door and they're like,

1185
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:59,890
Speaker 1: we need to talk to you about your online boyfriend calling.

1186
00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:00,989
Speaker 3: And she's like, oh my God, is he okay?

1187
00:53:01,030 --> 00:53:04,089
Speaker 1: And they're like, yes, but, and she fucking is going

1188
00:53:04,110 --> 00:53:05,430
Speaker 1: to like testify against him.

1189
00:53:05,489 --> 00:53:06,350
Speaker 2: Oh, got it.

1190
00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:07,209
Speaker 3: Like, fuck this dude.

1191
00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:07,589
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1192
00:53:07,790 --> 00:53:10,339
Speaker 3: This girlfriend is the island girlfriend, a new girlfriend.

1193
00:53:10,610 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.

1194
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: And nobody had any idea. And she had no idea either.

1195
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:18,450
Speaker 3: So like, you know. Don't date people on islands. That's

1196
00:53:18,469 --> 00:53:19,250
Speaker 3: the point of that one.

1197
00:53:19,690 --> 00:53:23,290
Speaker 2: This is an island. Shit.

1198
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,180
Speaker 3: I'm just sweating so bad.

1199
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,339
Speaker 2: This is high pressure. It's a high pressure situation.

1200
00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: You had one job.

1201
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: Every move we make is wrong.

1202
00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:43,580
Speaker 1: Edit that out. So now this Colin is 34 years

1203
00:53:43,700 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: old at the time of the murder trial. He expresses

1204
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:48,730
Speaker 1: no emotion at the hearing. He just stands there with

1205
00:53:48,750 --> 00:53:54,009
Speaker 1: his head down. Just as Paul Carney told him, since

1206
00:53:54,050 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: he prolonged the Goff's family suffering when he refused to

1207
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,739
Speaker 1: offer a quick trial while extradited, he's still being a dick.

1208
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: He also said that this, quote, this has been the

1209
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,180
Speaker 1: most calculating and callous killing I have ever encountered in

1210
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:11,069
Speaker 1: my time in court. So in April 2005, Colin pleads

1211
00:54:11,130 --> 00:54:14,670
Speaker 1: guilty to the murder of Mary. At the sentencing, one

1212
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:17,830
Speaker 1: of Mary's brothers spoke and said, our family is living

1213
00:54:17,850 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: a life sentence since her murder and will always have

1214
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: to live with it. We won't get off for good behavior.

1215
00:54:24,380 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: Mary is gone forever and we can't run away. Like,

1216
00:54:27,380 --> 00:54:28,250
Speaker 1: you fucking ran it.

1217
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1218
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: So Justice Carney hands down a mandatory life sentence, the

1219
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,670
Speaker 1: most severe sentence he could hand down. He said in

1220
00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:37,910
Speaker 1: normal circumstances, he would backdate the sentence to the time

1221
00:54:37,950 --> 00:54:42,490
Speaker 1: already spent in custody. But since Colin had later days

1222
00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:45,470
Speaker 1: from the state, he wouldn't. So he's like, go fuck yourself.

1223
00:54:45,489 --> 00:54:47,540
Speaker 2: Oh, he's tacking on that 16 months. He'd be like,

1224
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 2: remember your island vacation? Yeah. You're going to pay.

1225
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:49,980
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1226
00:54:50,219 --> 00:54:50,379
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1227
00:54:50,780 --> 00:54:55,460
Speaker 1: So Mary's brother David addressed Colin saying that the family

1228
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,419
Speaker 1: would never, ever, ever, quote, forgive him because he took

1229
00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:02,700
Speaker 1: a piece of each of them when he killed Mary. And, quote,

1230
00:55:02,739 --> 00:55:06,569
Speaker 1: Mary's only crime was loving you too much. I know.

1231
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,370
Speaker 3: And that's the murderer, Colin Whelan of Mary Goff.

1232
00:55:10,570 --> 00:55:10,950
Speaker 2: Wow.

1233
00:55:11,350 --> 00:55:12,350
Speaker 1: That was amazing.

1234
00:55:12,469 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. That was great. Boy, I'm glad

1235
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:21,820
Speaker 3: yours is next.

1236
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: Okay, we're back. Are there any updates for this case?

1237
00:55:31,550 --> 00:55:32,790
Speaker 3: Yes, there are some updates.

1238
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:35,750
Speaker 1: At the end of 2025, Colin was moved to an

1239
00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:39,730
Speaker 1: open prison. As of September 2026, he's working as a

1240
00:55:39,870 --> 00:55:43,430
Speaker 1: chef at a center that provides job training to vulnerable people.

1241
00:55:44,070 --> 00:55:46,660
Speaker 1: He is granted day release so they can have this job.

1242
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,500
Speaker 1: This has raised a bit of criticism since people point

1243
00:55:49,540 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: out that there are vulnerable women at the center and

1244
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: they are likely not aware of who Colm is or

1245
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,060
Speaker 1: about his past.

1246
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,250
Speaker 3: So, all right, well, Karen, let's get into.

1247
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,049
Speaker 1: Your story about Billy in the Bowl, otherwise known as

1248
00:56:03,150 --> 00:56:04,790
Speaker 1: the Stony Batter Strangler.

1249
00:56:11,350 --> 00:56:12,549
Speaker 3: I'm going to do Billy in the Bowl.

1250
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:15,500
Speaker 1: Our gal.

1251
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: Emily. Emily's the only one.

1252
00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:18,850
Speaker 3: Emily, stop it.

1253
00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:26,670
Speaker 2: Some also people know him as the Stoney Batter Strangler. Oh.

1254
00:56:27,290 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: Now they get it.

1255
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 2: This was actually, this story was tweeted to us on

1256
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 2: our Twitter page by a Dublin theater group called Tales

1257
00:56:37,780 --> 00:56:41,700
Speaker 2: from the Shadows. Oh, it's Emily's theater group. Oh my God.

1258
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: Oh my God.

1259
00:56:43,930 --> 00:56:45,390
Speaker 3: What are the chances?

1260
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:51,500
Speaker 2: Here, stand up. Okay, what's your theater group all about?

1261
00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: We do storytelling and shadow puppetry all together. We also

1262
00:56:55,780 --> 00:56:58,180
Speaker 2: just started a podcast. We've got two episodes so far.

1263
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,660
Speaker 3: What's it called? Sounds from the Shadows.

1264
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:03,660
Speaker 2: Silence of the Shadows? Sounds from the Shadows. Sorry, Sounds

1265
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,060
Speaker 2: from the Shadows.

1266
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 3: Is it like a storytelling podcast?

1267
00:57:05,739 --> 00:57:05,899
Speaker 5: Yep.

1268
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 2: Represent. Storytelling podcast. Yes. All right, well, I'm doing your story. No,

1269
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,380
Speaker 2: thank you.

1270
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,740
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

1271
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:19,430
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know what I was going to do?

1272
00:57:19,450 --> 00:57:23,070
Speaker 2: I had Alias Grace, that story that was just on Netflix,

1273
00:57:23,410 --> 00:57:27,210
Speaker 2: and I had it all researched. Don't act sad. That's

1274
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:31,590
Speaker 2: really rude. But then I realized it was an Irish girl,

1275
00:57:31,660 --> 00:57:33,580
Speaker 2: but the whole thing took place in Canada. So then

1276
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: I was picturing in my mind, like, no one gives

1277
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,660
Speaker 2: a shit about Canada. Yeah. Then we got this tweet

1278
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:39,340
Speaker 2: and I was like.

1279
00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: They don't want you getting the fucking places in Canada wrong.

1280
00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 3: They want you doing it here.

1281
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:45,930
Speaker 2: This is, we need errors from the island.

1282
00:57:47,150 --> 00:57:48,130
Speaker 3: From this island.

1283
00:57:48,290 --> 00:57:51,130
Speaker 2: And then I, so I look up this and so

1284
00:57:51,170 --> 00:57:54,310
Speaker 2: what Emily and her theater group did was they linked

1285
00:57:54,810 --> 00:57:58,220
Speaker 2: a video of, there's a video series called Story Maps

1286
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,540
Speaker 2: where people tell stories. Is it all Europe or is

1287
00:58:01,580 --> 00:58:02,260
Speaker 2: it just Ireland?

1288
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:02,420
Speaker 1: Ireland.

1289
00:58:03,410 --> 00:58:04,170
Speaker 3: Oh, just Dublin.

1290
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:04,490
Speaker 2: Okay.

1291
00:58:04,510 --> 00:58:05,450
Speaker 3: You guys have enough here.

1292
00:58:05,530 --> 00:58:05,870
Speaker 2: Jesus.

1293
00:58:06,070 --> 00:58:07,810
Speaker 3: Storymaps.ie.

1294
00:58:08,490 --> 00:58:11,090
Speaker 2: And it's really cool. There's just all these people telling

1295
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:13,270
Speaker 2: local lore and local stories. Cool.

1296
00:58:13,790 --> 00:58:16,270
Speaker 3: Oh, good. Other people are hot, too. Okay, that's great.

1297
00:58:17,150 --> 00:58:17,450
Speaker 2: Oh, good.

1298
00:58:17,490 --> 00:58:19,490
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I forgot I could do this. Oh, for

1299
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:20,210
Speaker 3: fuck's sake.

1300
00:58:20,610 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do that. In the Storymaps video, it's

1301
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,060
Speaker 2: a lovely young man named Bobby Ahern who tells the

1302
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:28,300
Speaker 2: story of Billy and the Bull.

1303
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: Earn.

1304
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:36,250
Speaker 2: Ahern. Ahern. Okay, we have family friends named the Ahearns,

1305
00:58:37,150 --> 00:58:45,189
Speaker 2: and so... I just fight every pronunciation. My grandma told

1306
00:58:45,210 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: me that I become the girl in the bar. Bobby Ahearn.

1307
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: And he is so charming, he tells the story so well.

1308
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,180
Speaker 2: He's sitting in the grain gin, he's got a cup

1309
00:58:59,220 --> 00:59:00,710
Speaker 2: of tea in front of him, and he tells the

1310
00:59:00,730 --> 00:59:04,530
Speaker 2: story of Billy and the Bull, which is fucking nuts. Also,

1311
00:59:04,590 --> 00:59:09,510
Speaker 2: there's a blog called Silent Owl, and they wrote up

1312
00:59:09,770 --> 00:59:11,730
Speaker 2: this of it. There's a lot of great information, so

1313
00:59:11,770 --> 00:59:15,830
Speaker 2: I took from both of those. So this man, Billy Davis,

1314
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:19,300
Speaker 2: he was born sometime in the mid-1700s, so this is old, old, old.

1315
00:59:19,450 --> 00:59:21,030
Speaker 3: Race, good, race, good.

1316
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:25,820
Speaker 2: And although not much is known about his early life, Um,

1317
00:59:26,020 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: it's safe to assume that he was a beautiful, healthy

1318
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: baby boy because he, the story about him and the

1319
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,730
Speaker 2: kind of the, um, overriding, uh, fact of the story

1320
00:59:37,770 --> 00:59:40,450
Speaker 2: of Billy and the bull is that he was fucking hot.

1321
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:44,060
Speaker 3: He had a big mop of black hair and.

1322
00:59:44,020 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: He had green eyes and he had like an aquiline

1323
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: nose and just gorgeous face. And so he was like,

1324
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,780
Speaker 2: he was, he was dashing. He was a dashing hottie.

1325
00:59:53,980 --> 00:59:55,580
Speaker 1: That reminds me, I forgot to tell you guys, we

1326
00:59:55,620 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: saw Benicio Del Toro in the airport.

1327
00:59:57,780 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: It was really exciting.

1328
00:59:59,720 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1329
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:06,970
Speaker 3: He looked so hungover. It made me sad for him. Sorry.

1330
01:00:07,250 --> 01:00:07,490
Speaker 2: No.

1331
01:00:07,610 --> 01:00:09,610
Speaker 1: If he's here tonight, apologies.

1332
01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:11,500
Speaker 3: What if he was flying over to come in and.

1333
01:00:13,550 --> 01:00:15,650
Speaker 2: Suddenly we pretend to be fans of Benicio Del Toro.

1334
01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:24,890
Speaker 2: I love everything you've done. Okay, so... So, Billy Davis

1335
01:00:25,110 --> 01:00:29,780
Speaker 2: was a Hawkeye. Unfortunately, he was born with no legs. Oh. So....

1336
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:31,270
Speaker 3: It wasn't supposed to.

1337
01:00:31,250 --> 01:00:36,370
Speaker 2: Be a joke. Okay. Ma'am. Somebody's laughing insanely hard over there.

1338
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:43,820
Speaker 2: So he ends up Living in a place called the

1339
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: House of Industry, which is also known as the Dublin Poorhouse.

1340
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,460
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like what it means. No, I know.

1341
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,060
Speaker 2: They were trying to gild the lily on that one

1342
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,820
Speaker 2: a little bit. The first House of Industry was built

1343
01:00:56,860 --> 01:01:02,740
Speaker 2: in 1703, where today the St. James Hospital stands. So

1344
01:01:02,980 --> 01:01:03,380
Speaker 2: they know that.

1345
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: They know that.

1346
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,419
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1347
01:01:05,710 --> 01:01:07,260
Speaker 3: So it was maintained.

1348
01:01:07,340 --> 01:01:10,420
Speaker 2: I love this fact. It was maintained by the taxes

1349
01:01:10,460 --> 01:01:14,260
Speaker 2: that people paid for their sedan chairs and their hackney carriages.

1350
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,510
Speaker 3: I don't know what either of those things are. Sedan

1351
01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:16,270
Speaker 3: chairs are those.

1352
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:19,230
Speaker 2: Things that you see in like period movies where four

1353
01:01:19,330 --> 01:01:22,650
Speaker 2: dudes carry a bike. with a rich lady inside on

1354
01:01:22,830 --> 01:01:26,270
Speaker 2: sticks yes that's a sedan chair oh god so it's.

1355
01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: Like i want to be like fuck those women but

1356
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: i bet their shoes hurt so bad constantly their feet

1357
01:01:31,660 --> 01:01:33,820
Speaker 1: were in their corsets everything about and.

1358
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,180
Speaker 3: Their oppression being all of it.

1359
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: Everything about it painting i'm like get on that box.

1360
01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:45,930
Speaker 2: Get in the box But those people that had carriages

1361
01:01:46,170 --> 01:01:49,060
Speaker 2: and sedan chairs had to pay an extra tax for them,

1362
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: and that tax went to pay for the House of Industry.

1363
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 3: I like that. It was kind of, you know, it

1364
01:01:53,460 --> 01:01:54,540
Speaker 3: was a good setup. Let's bring those back.

1365
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: Except for the House of Industry... It wasn't the best

1366
01:02:00,060 --> 01:02:02,660
Speaker 2: place in the world, as I'm sure you all know

1367
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,010
Speaker 2: and can imagine. In 1805, a man named Sir John

1368
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:10,150
Speaker 2: Carr wrote something called His Tour of Ireland. He described

1369
01:02:10,170 --> 01:02:12,890
Speaker 2: the House of Industry as, quote, a gloomy abode of

1370
01:02:13,050 --> 01:02:17,190
Speaker 2: mingled want, disease, vice, and malady, where lunatics were loaded

1371
01:02:17,230 --> 01:02:21,690
Speaker 2: with heavy chains and fallen women bound and lodged. Shit.

1372
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:21,990
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1373
01:02:22,490 --> 01:02:23,010
Speaker 1: That's heavy.

1374
01:02:23,830 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: No sedan chairs inside of the House of Industry.

1375
01:02:26,180 --> 01:02:26,260
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1376
01:02:27,050 --> 01:02:29,010
Speaker 3: Also, you could, if.

1377
01:02:28,990 --> 01:02:31,830
Speaker 2: You were a fallen woman, which, what, that meant you

1378
01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:34,890
Speaker 2: wore a dress like this? That basically you're fucking in

1379
01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:37,310
Speaker 2: there with all the worst.

1380
01:02:37,090 --> 01:02:37,570
Speaker 1: Of the worst.

1381
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: Bound and lobbed, which whatever that fucking means, I don't

1382
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:46,060
Speaker 2: want to know. Okay, so also a political theorist named

1383
01:02:46,180 --> 01:02:49,820
Speaker 2: Alexis de Tocqueville described the conditions of the inmates that

1384
01:02:49,860 --> 01:02:52,860
Speaker 2: he saw. during his investigative tour of Ireland in 1835

1385
01:02:52,860 --> 01:02:56,330
Speaker 2: as the most hideous and disgusting.

1386
01:02:56,010 --> 01:02:57,330
Speaker 3: Aspect of destitution.

1387
01:02:57,410 --> 01:02:58,250
Speaker 4: Jesus.

1388
01:02:58,410 --> 01:03:05,250
Speaker 2: So it wasn't awesome there. They fed people, I think

1389
01:03:05,290 --> 01:03:07,220
Speaker 2: it said once or twice a day with a soup.

1390
01:03:07,740 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: that they made from collected scraps from the great houses.

1391
01:03:12,660 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: So wherever the rich people lived, they'd go by and

1392
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,820
Speaker 2: get the scraps from their shitty leftovers and then put

1393
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: all that in a bowl and make a soup. And

1394
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: they're like, dinner time, everybody.

1395
01:03:22,140 --> 01:03:24,780
Speaker 1: On the one hand, I'm like, that's pretty cool, though.

1396
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: At least it's not from, like, what the horses were eating.

1397
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's very positive of you.

1398
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: But.

1399
01:03:32,460 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 2: If they're noting it, it means it was bad. Yeah,

1400
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:41,540
Speaker 2: it means this soup sucked. Um... So in 1773, this

1401
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: workhouse is reformed and it's split into a hospital for

1402
01:03:44,940 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: the mentally insane, a workhouse for the poor, and then

1403
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:53,450
Speaker 2: a foundling hospital primarily used for the safety and education

1404
01:03:53,530 --> 01:03:56,970
Speaker 2: of the admitted children. Now they start talking about this

1405
01:03:57,030 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: foundling hospital. And it later comes under investigation because of

1406
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,740
Speaker 2: the abnormally high mortality rates. It turns out four of

1407
01:04:05,780 --> 01:04:09,310
Speaker 2: the five children that are admitted to the foundling hospital die.

1408
01:04:10,090 --> 01:04:11,350
Speaker 3: Four of the fucking five.

1409
01:04:12,010 --> 01:04:15,810
Speaker 2: And the investigations, they find strong evidence that lady is

1410
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:17,410
Speaker 2: so drunk. It is.

1411
01:04:18,990 --> 01:04:20,620
Speaker 3: She is at a totally different show.

1412
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1413
01:04:22,550 --> 01:04:26,390
Speaker 2: I'm reading about infant mortality rates and she is peeing

1414
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:27,450
Speaker 2: her fucking pants.

1415
01:04:28,110 --> 01:04:31,210
Speaker 3: It's the bank holiday. It's the fucking bank holiday.

1416
01:04:32,890 --> 01:04:39,870
Speaker 2: What if it's a ghost? Oh my God. So, so

1417
01:04:39,910 --> 01:04:42,450
Speaker 2: the House of Commons stops allowing for new admissions to

1418
01:04:42,490 --> 01:04:44,470
Speaker 2: the family hospital in 1831. It took them 107 years

1419
01:04:44,490 --> 01:04:45,950
Speaker 2: to be like, you know what? It has to stop.

1420
01:04:49,830 --> 01:04:52,770
Speaker 3: Thousands of children have died. Like, they're better off on

1421
01:04:52,810 --> 01:04:54,610
Speaker 3: the streets. Just close the door.

1422
01:04:55,070 --> 01:04:58,189
Speaker 2: But, well, let's wait one more year. Okay, 107 years

1423
01:04:58,210 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: have passed. We're going to stop. So, when it's reformed,

1424
01:05:01,660 --> 01:05:04,740
Speaker 2: this House of Industry, in 1773, it turns out there's

1425
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,780
Speaker 2: no place for Billy Davis because, and this is something

1426
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,090
Speaker 2: good old Bobby Ahern read in his... In the story

1427
01:05:14,130 --> 01:05:18,590
Speaker 2: map story that in the minutes book, it said, quote,

1428
01:05:18,730 --> 01:05:22,370
Speaker 2: it is deemed resolved that the man in the bowl

1429
01:05:22,450 --> 01:05:25,220
Speaker 2: is not a proper person and is to be discharged

1430
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: from the house of industry. So they decide because he's handicapped,

1431
01:05:28,820 --> 01:05:32,419
Speaker 2: he is not a person and they fucking kick him out. Shit.

1432
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: Which sucks.

1433
01:05:33,590 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: So he's in the streets of Dublin. It's the mid

1434
01:05:36,930 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: to late 1700s now. And they say at the time,

1435
01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:44,060
Speaker 2: 18th century Dublin was known for two things, all the

1436
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: amazing architectural buildings and beggars. That's what there's the most

1437
01:05:49,020 --> 01:05:49,620
Speaker 2: of everywhere.

1438
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,230
Speaker 3: I was going to guess candy and soda bread.

1439
01:05:53,490 --> 01:05:54,250
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1440
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,900
Speaker 3: I was hoping for it.

1441
01:05:55,900 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: No, you tried. But the good news is things aren't

1442
01:06:00,260 --> 01:06:05,700
Speaker 2: all bad because somewhere along the line, a kindly blacksmith

1443
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:10,590
Speaker 2: took pity upon Billy and built him this weird early

1444
01:06:10,670 --> 01:06:13,790
Speaker 2: version of a wheelchair, which was basically a big, huge

1445
01:06:13,990 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: iron bowl that he could sit in.

1446
01:06:15,410 --> 01:06:15,490
Speaker 1: Okay.

1447
01:06:17,180 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: And he stuck some wheels on it. Okay.

1448
01:06:20,260 --> 01:06:23,260
Speaker 2: And then Billy used two pieces of wood and pulled

1449
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,650
Speaker 2: himself along in a bowl. And that's how he became

1450
01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:28,190
Speaker 2: known as Billy in the Bowl.

1451
01:06:28,330 --> 01:06:29,430
Speaker 3: Holy shit.

1452
01:06:29,790 --> 01:06:33,140
Speaker 2: So now picture this. When I first read this story,

1453
01:06:33,300 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: I didn't get that there were wheels on the bowl.

1454
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:41,340
Speaker 2: So I just thought he was fucking... Dragging an iron bull,

1455
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,330
Speaker 2: like the worst CrossFit workout of all time.

1456
01:06:44,350 --> 01:06:47,330
Speaker 1: And you know all the cobblestone streets, so it's just

1457
01:06:47,390 --> 01:06:48,650
Speaker 1: jarring its teeth.

1458
01:06:48,750 --> 01:06:53,050
Speaker 2: It's just the loudest, heaviest situation anyone could be in.

1459
01:06:53,050 --> 01:06:53,790
Speaker 1: But he was hot.

1460
01:06:53,810 --> 01:06:56,580
Speaker 2: But he was hot. And that's... We can always go

1461
01:06:56,620 --> 01:06:59,180
Speaker 2: back to that when things get hard. Yeah. Is that

1462
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: up here, everything was working out great for him. Because...

1463
01:07:03,910 --> 01:07:07,130
Speaker 2: Among all of the beggars, he actually was, of course, gorgeous,

1464
01:07:07,250 --> 01:07:09,850
Speaker 2: and he was really charming, so he got a lot

1465
01:07:10,010 --> 01:07:12,729
Speaker 2: of pity and attention, and people would give him money.

1466
01:07:13,050 --> 01:07:14,970
Speaker 2: He also made friends with a lot of the servant girls,

1467
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:17,290
Speaker 2: and he, I think he stole from the House of

1468
01:07:17,350 --> 01:07:20,010
Speaker 2: Industry style, so he would go back along the back

1469
01:07:20,030 --> 01:07:22,210
Speaker 2: of the great houses, and they would give him scraps

1470
01:07:22,910 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: from the house, so he'd end up filling his bowl up. Oh, no.

1471
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: As Bobby Ahern in the video says, like a big stew.

1472
01:07:30,340 --> 01:07:33,620
Speaker 2: LAUGHTER He sits in his bowl like a big shoe.

1473
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: Oh my God. Coins, little pieces of meat.

1474
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,610
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay. And so basically this is, he

1475
01:07:43,710 --> 01:07:47,430
Speaker 2: is on the streets of Dublin for six years begging. And,

1476
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:51,169
Speaker 2: but he, he drinks and he gambles. So as much

1477
01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:53,730
Speaker 2: as he makes and as well as he does being

1478
01:07:53,770 --> 01:07:57,380
Speaker 2: a beggar, a hot beggar on the street, you know,

1479
01:07:57,660 --> 01:08:01,700
Speaker 2: the money goes. Sure. So... Now I've lost my place.

1480
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: So he decides to embark on a life of crime.

1481
01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: So early one night in 1780, around dusk, Billy lays

1482
01:08:11,820 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: in wait until he sees a middle-aged woman coming up

1483
01:08:14,950 --> 01:08:17,790
Speaker 2: Grange Gorman Lane on her way to Queen Street.

1484
01:08:17,850 --> 01:08:21,290
Speaker 3: She's by herself. And he throws himself out of his bowl.

1485
01:08:21,310 --> 01:08:25,570
Speaker 1: Ay, ay, ay.

1486
01:08:25,630 --> 01:08:25,850
Speaker 2: Right?

1487
01:08:27,150 --> 01:08:28,689
Speaker 3: Pieces of meat go everywhere.

1488
01:08:28,710 --> 01:08:37,130
Speaker 2: Sorry. That's inappropriate. And he lays in the bushes moaning

1489
01:08:37,170 --> 01:08:39,490
Speaker 2: and screaming, right? So then the lady's like, oh no,

1490
01:08:39,630 --> 01:08:42,630
Speaker 2: something happened to somebody. And she goes over to see

1491
01:08:42,670 --> 01:08:45,990
Speaker 2: what's going on. And now you have to imagine, because

1492
01:08:46,030 --> 01:08:49,470
Speaker 2: he's spent years and years and years dragging himself around

1493
01:08:49,550 --> 01:08:53,170
Speaker 2: in a bowl, his upper body strength is fucking nutso.

1494
01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:59,630
Speaker 2: So he has like crazy, a crazy upper body. Sorry.

1495
01:09:03,229 --> 01:09:05,770
Speaker 2: i just got this like pole dark kind of idea

1496
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: in my head of like how hot fucking pole dark

1497
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: right louise you gotta watch that show that guy's insane

1498
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,140
Speaker 2: looking but Basically, she leans down. This lady leans down

1499
01:09:19,180 --> 01:09:21,260
Speaker 2: to be like, are you okay? It's like old school

1500
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:22,180
Speaker 2: Ted Bundy style.

1501
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: Like, I'm her. Exactly.

1502
01:09:23,660 --> 01:09:27,420
Speaker 2: He's the original Ted Bundy. Because then she's like, are

1503
01:09:27,460 --> 01:09:29,140
Speaker 2: you okay, man in the ditch?

1504
01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:29,500
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1505
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,309
Speaker 2: His huge power arms come out and just strangle her.

1506
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:34,250
Speaker 1: Oh, no.

1507
01:09:34,310 --> 01:09:38,670
Speaker 2: He chokes her out. He takes her purse. Bowls away.

1508
01:09:39,810 --> 01:09:44,530
Speaker 2: As we know. What? Fucking.

1509
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 3: Clomping on those fucking cobblestones.

1510
01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: Bobby Ahern says, it was like he was going around

1511
01:09:50,020 --> 01:09:51,860
Speaker 2: in a canoe on the street. Oh, my God.

1512
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 3: That's how he explained it. Bobby's the best. Bobby's the best.

1513
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,980
Speaker 2: And he had a real glimmer in his eye as

1514
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,950
Speaker 2: he told this story. So, when the middle-aged lady wakes up,

1515
01:10:03,330 --> 01:10:06,130
Speaker 2: she has no fucking clue what just happened. She's just like,

1516
01:10:06,270 --> 01:10:08,290
Speaker 2: I don't know who did it. I don't know what

1517
01:10:08,330 --> 01:10:11,150
Speaker 2: he looks like. She has no clue. Meanwhile, Billy and

1518
01:10:11,170 --> 01:10:11,850
Speaker 2: the Bull.

1519
01:10:11,630 --> 01:10:15,420
Speaker 3: Has the perfect cover... Because everybody, of course, writes him off.

1520
01:10:15,660 --> 01:10:18,150
Speaker 2: They don't know how insanely strong he is and Poldark

1521
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,330
Speaker 2: he is underneath his shirt. They just go, oh, it's

1522
01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:24,590
Speaker 2: the poor crippled man. So he is never even slightly considered.

1523
01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:28,210
Speaker 2: He is nobody even takes notice. And it's the perfect cover.

1524
01:10:28,330 --> 01:10:31,870
Speaker 2: So he then proceeds to do this crime constantly. This

1525
01:10:31,930 --> 01:10:33,299
Speaker 2: is now his new jam.

1526
01:10:36,140 --> 01:10:37,689
Speaker 3: So that's up until 1786.

1527
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:37,980
Speaker 1: Now....

1528
01:10:40,910 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: One night, he's laying in wait, waiting for a woman

1529
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:51,139
Speaker 2: to rob. But the one who comes along, as Bobby

1530
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,580
Speaker 2: Ahern describes her, she's a hefty servant girl.

1531
01:10:55,060 --> 01:10:59,570
Speaker 3: Oh, shit.

1532
01:10:59,590 --> 01:11:01,950
Speaker 2: You better fucking watch out for us hefty servant girls.

1533
01:11:01,990 --> 01:11:07,650
Speaker 2: Do not fuck with us. So he goes to choke

1534
01:11:07,689 --> 01:11:12,729
Speaker 2: her out. And she's like, I don't think so. Man

1535
01:11:12,770 --> 01:11:18,330
Speaker 2: in the bowl. Love it. She starts to fight him off,

1536
01:11:18,450 --> 01:11:20,370
Speaker 2: and she's starting to get away. He knows that if

1537
01:11:20,410 --> 01:11:23,010
Speaker 2: she gets away, his whole scheme is going to be over,

1538
01:11:23,450 --> 01:11:25,190
Speaker 2: so he strangles her to death, and this is his

1539
01:11:25,229 --> 01:11:25,830
Speaker 2: first murder.

1540
01:11:25,850 --> 01:11:26,590
Speaker 3: Oh, no.

1541
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:30,530
Speaker 2: Yeah. When her body's found the next day, it's a

1542
01:11:30,590 --> 01:11:35,090
Speaker 2: huge story. Everybody goes nuts. They call it the 11

1543
01:11:35,090 --> 01:11:39,410
Speaker 2: Grange-Gorman Lane murder, and it's Ireland's first ever... Oh, so

1544
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:42,380
Speaker 2: Ireland had just assembled their first police force. This is

1545
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,620
Speaker 2: how long ago this was. Okay. Pre-police.

1546
01:11:45,740 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: Damn.

1547
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:47,550
Speaker 2: Garda.

1548
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:51,850
Speaker 3: The Garda. Or the Gardee.

1549
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:55,540
Speaker 2: You're changing it now that it's my story. It's both.

1550
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,979
Speaker 2: They're just saying whatever they want, Louise. You say no?

1551
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,620
Speaker 3: Single or pure?

1552
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: Okay. Are you the one that was laughing earlier? Because

1553
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:12,450
Speaker 2: I'm not listening to you, baby death laugher.

1554
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:16,130
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha!

1555
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:17,010
Speaker 2: One guard up!

1556
01:12:18,850 --> 01:12:20,150
Speaker 1: Two guardies, got it.

1557
01:12:24,270 --> 01:12:26,710
Speaker 2: This is all information that will not help us in Oslo.

1558
01:12:28,530 --> 01:12:30,710
Speaker 3: But tomorrow night, everyone's going to think we're really smart here.

1559
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:31,309
Speaker 2: Oh, shit.

1560
01:12:31,410 --> 01:12:32,150
Speaker 1: Thanks, you guys.

1561
01:12:32,189 --> 01:12:34,750
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, we're going to be like, no, you're pronouncing

1562
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:40,860
Speaker 2: it wrong. I mean, in all these articles, they called

1563
01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: it the police force.

1564
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:42,420
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1565
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys are.

1566
01:12:43,979 --> 01:12:44,780
Speaker 1: Anyhow.

1567
01:12:46,020 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 3: So basically, the case goes cold. Nobody suspects Billy in

1568
01:12:48,979 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 3: the bowl, of course.

1569
01:12:49,620 --> 01:12:52,250
Speaker 2: He's the charming, beautiful beggar. No one even looks at him.

1570
01:12:53,250 --> 01:12:55,849
Speaker 2: So he decides to lay low for like six months,

1571
01:12:56,189 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: but of course, all of his bad habits get the

1572
01:12:58,140 --> 01:12:59,500
Speaker 2: best of him, he starts to run out of money.

1573
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,689
Speaker 2: So he goes and he, so one night, he's on

1574
01:13:03,729 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: Richardson's Lane, two women are walking along, it's dusk, In

1575
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: some stories, they're servant girls. In some stories, they're rich,

1576
01:13:13,220 --> 01:13:16,180
Speaker 2: well-to-do women. But either way, it was women who were

1577
01:13:16,220 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: kind of dressed up for the night on the town,

1578
01:13:18,140 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: so they had a lot of jewelry on and a

1579
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:24,500
Speaker 2: lot of kind of overt richness. So Billy does this

1580
01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:26,820
Speaker 2: thing where he throws himself out of the bowl, but

1581
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,900
Speaker 2: he doesn't see that there's two women. He just knows

1582
01:13:29,939 --> 01:13:30,740
Speaker 2: that someone's coming.

1583
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,660
Speaker 3: Does he hide his giant bowl on wheels?

1584
01:13:33,689 --> 01:13:37,210
Speaker 2: LAUGHTER You know what he does is he also carries

1585
01:13:37,250 --> 01:13:38,469
Speaker 2: around a big ficus plant.

1586
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:42,250
Speaker 3: And so he'll just go ahead and pull that plant over.

1587
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:45,290
Speaker 2: It looks like this amazing, gorgeous planter on wheels.

1588
01:13:45,850 --> 01:13:47,140
Speaker 1: I would love it if it was like a Looney

1589
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,500
Speaker 1: Tunes style like skyline of like the Warner Brothers studio.

1590
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: He folds the bowl up real small and puts them

1591
01:13:53,420 --> 01:13:55,460
Speaker 2: in his pocket and then lays down in the bushes.

1592
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 3: Oh my God.

1593
01:13:56,850 --> 01:13:57,930
Speaker 2: I can't account for the bowl.

1594
01:13:58,010 --> 01:13:58,310
Speaker 3: Okay.

1595
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,710
Speaker 2: The man-sized bowl that he rolls around in. He pulls

1596
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:04,410
Speaker 2: it backwards, parks it. Yeah.

1597
01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:05,729
Speaker 3: Parks it facing out.

1598
01:14:06,110 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Gets out, gets into the bushes. Yeah. So.

1599
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,420
Speaker 3: Some holes in this story. This whole thing is fake, obviously.

1600
01:14:16,350 --> 01:14:16,950
Speaker 3: But who cares?

1601
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,020
Speaker 2: So when the women come up, he's doing the thing

1602
01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:21,740
Speaker 2: where he's doing his.

1603
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,540
Speaker 3: Cries for help. The women approach.

1604
01:14:23,979 --> 01:14:24,419
Speaker 2: Uh-oh.

1605
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,940
Speaker 3: He sees.

1606
01:14:27,140 --> 01:14:30,420
Speaker 2: That their money, their jewelry, their money, they open their

1607
01:14:30,460 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: purse to give him money. He can't control himself. He

1608
01:14:35,220 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: grabs one woman.

1609
01:14:36,380 --> 01:14:36,620
Speaker 1: No.

1610
01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:38,939
Speaker 2: He doesn't see that there's the other woman. He just

1611
01:14:38,979 --> 01:14:41,060
Speaker 2: sees the one in front of him. He starts to

1612
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: strangle her.

1613
01:14:41,860 --> 01:14:42,339
Speaker 1: Uh-oh.

1614
01:14:42,580 --> 01:14:46,690
Speaker 2: And then the woman behind her pulls out her fucking

1615
01:14:46,729 --> 01:14:48,059
Speaker 2: hat pin. Yes, yes.

1616
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:50,970
Speaker 4: Some emerald hat pins that are like this long.

1617
01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:51,270
Speaker 2: Oh shit.

1618
01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:53,689
Speaker 3: And she jams it into his right eye.

1619
01:14:53,710 --> 01:14:59,150
Speaker 1: We're glad.

1620
01:14:59,189 --> 01:15:01,710
Speaker 3: We're happy. We're happy, but it's hard.

1621
01:15:03,290 --> 01:15:06,570
Speaker 2: There's nothing that makes Irish people clap more than piercing

1622
01:15:06,610 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: an eye with a pin. They love it. Oh, man.

1623
01:15:10,620 --> 01:15:12,790
Speaker 1: That's, I'm just going to, we need to start wearing

1624
01:15:12,850 --> 01:15:13,370
Speaker 1: hats again.

1625
01:15:13,630 --> 01:15:17,410
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. I just don't understand how you put

1626
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:19,590
Speaker 2: that on your head and don't then jam it into

1627
01:15:19,610 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 2: your own skull. Right. But it worked out great because

1628
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,589
Speaker 2: they run up to, hold on, I'll tell you.

1629
01:15:30,770 --> 01:15:31,830
Speaker 3: Where do they go, Karen?

1630
01:15:31,850 --> 01:15:33,050
Speaker 2: They run up to a street.

1631
01:15:33,250 --> 01:15:36,410
Speaker 1: It's going to be somewhere fun, I bet. I bet

1632
01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:38,370
Speaker 1: it's going to be somewhere.

1633
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:40,509
Speaker 2: Manor Street. They run up to Manor Street.

1634
01:15:40,810 --> 01:15:42,229
Speaker 3: Is that fun? They run up to.

1635
01:15:42,189 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: Manor Street, which is an amazing street. You have to

1636
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:45,250
Speaker 2: see it.

1637
01:15:46,460 --> 01:15:48,979
Speaker 3: And there's a group of people there.

1638
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,440
Speaker 2: In that group of people, there's a new guarda who's like, hey,

1639
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 2: I'm just learning how to do this.

1640
01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:54,219
Speaker 1: Let me help.

1641
01:15:54,820 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 3: Let me get my baton out.

1642
01:15:56,300 --> 01:16:01,700
Speaker 2: That's right. Finally. their old, old baton, run down, and

1643
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,500
Speaker 2: they find Billy laying on the street with his eye out,

1644
01:16:04,580 --> 01:16:08,750
Speaker 2: and they finally realize that this is who the strangler was.

1645
01:16:09,250 --> 01:16:12,690
Speaker 2: So someone goes and grabs, I guess the bull must

1646
01:16:12,729 --> 01:16:15,769
Speaker 2: have been elsewhere, because they went and got a wheelbarrow

1647
01:16:15,930 --> 01:16:19,150
Speaker 2: and put him in it. And took him up to

1648
01:16:19,170 --> 01:16:21,410
Speaker 2: the Green Street prison. So.

1649
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 3: What a bummer. Yeah, the whole thing is horrifying.

1650
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:29,129
Speaker 2: Um... So they could not prove that he was the strangler.

1651
01:16:29,170 --> 01:16:31,410
Speaker 2: They didn't have the evidence to connect it to the

1652
01:16:31,450 --> 01:16:33,510
Speaker 2: other murders, but they had him for this one.

1653
01:16:33,550 --> 01:16:36,130
Speaker 3: So he was convicted for robbery with violence.

1654
01:16:36,150 --> 01:16:39,769
Speaker 2: Okay. And he was sentenced to hard labor at the

1655
01:16:39,810 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 2: Green Street prison. What's that? Some kind of a sex

1656
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:46,460
Speaker 2: reference that I'm not getting?

1657
01:16:47,420 --> 01:16:50,219
Speaker 3: No, because he doesn't have legs.

1658
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:50,380
Speaker 2: Yes.

1659
01:16:52,970 --> 01:16:54,710
Speaker 3: So we're wondering if he got his bowl.

1660
01:16:54,830 --> 01:16:57,100
Speaker 2: It's so small-minded of you to think that you can

1661
01:16:57,140 --> 01:17:00,740
Speaker 2: only do labor with your legs. What about this? What

1662
01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:05,380
Speaker 2: about lifting things? What about handing someone something over and over? Here,

1663
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,810
Speaker 2: I got it. I will pass that salt for the

1664
01:17:08,850 --> 01:17:09,470
Speaker 2: rest of my life.

1665
01:17:10,810 --> 01:17:13,969
Speaker 3: Karen, hard labor is passing salt.

1666
01:17:16,290 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 2: If you make a really loud noise as you pass it,

1667
01:17:18,030 --> 01:17:19,509
Speaker 2: it counts as hard labor.

1668
01:17:20,050 --> 01:17:21,150
Speaker 3: God, I'm sick of it.

1669
01:17:26,670 --> 01:17:31,990
Speaker 2: So basically, he's convicted and he has to stay there

1670
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:33,930
Speaker 2: for the rest of his life. There was a super

1671
01:17:33,970 --> 01:17:35,990
Speaker 2: creepy thing that they used to do. I don't know

1672
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:38,220
Speaker 2: when they stopped doing it. The rich would go and

1673
01:17:38,300 --> 01:17:42,480
Speaker 2: visit prisons and mental institutions just as a night out.

1674
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,820
Speaker 2: So apparently he became like a sideshow at the prison.

1675
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,480
Speaker 3: Oh, because he has one eye now.

1676
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:50,469
Speaker 2: He's got the one eye.

1677
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:52,939
Speaker 3: I don't know if that eye came all the way out.

1678
01:17:53,020 --> 01:17:54,059
Speaker 3: The other one's beautiful.

1679
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:57,650
Speaker 1: It's so hot, gorgeous green with the black.

1680
01:17:57,710 --> 01:17:58,870
Speaker 3: What a great combination.

1681
01:17:58,890 --> 01:18:04,710
Speaker 1: I didn't get it.

1682
01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:07,849
Speaker 3: And they go watch him pass salt all the time.

1683
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:11,350
Speaker 2: It's disgusting. It's disgusting. And they say that on some

1684
01:18:11,490 --> 01:18:15,150
Speaker 2: dark nights in the Grange Gorman's Tony Better District, you

1685
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:18,910
Speaker 2: can hear a strange, shrieking noise coming up behind you.

1686
01:18:20,340 --> 01:18:22,220
Speaker 2: They don't like it when I do the accent. I know.

1687
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: I like it a lot more.

1688
01:18:26,180 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 3: You're not insulting me, so I think it's great. Okay, great.

1689
01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:33,110
Speaker 2: They really do say, and there's a place called Hidden

1690
01:18:33,140 --> 01:18:36,300
Speaker 2: Dublin that gives ghost tours, and it's on the walk,

1691
01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: it's the Northside Ghost Walk Tour that you can take,

1692
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: and they say that the ghost of Billy and the

1693
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:43,939
Speaker 2: Bull haunts the area where he lived.

1694
01:18:43,970 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 3: After party, after party, tonight. What is it?

1695
01:18:47,670 --> 01:18:49,730
Speaker 2: Hold on, we have to consult with Louise really quick.

1696
01:18:49,750 --> 01:18:49,990
Speaker 2: What is it?

1697
01:18:50,260 --> 01:18:50,330
Speaker 1: It?

1698
01:18:50,340 --> 01:18:51,049
Speaker 3: Louise, what's wrong?

1699
01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:52,450
Speaker 1: I actually live in Stony Butters.

1700
01:18:52,510 --> 01:18:54,269
Speaker 2: If you want to have an after party, that's... Great.

1701
01:18:54,650 --> 01:18:59,140
Speaker 3: We're going to Louise's after this. Louisa's after.

1702
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:00,860
Speaker 2: Balcony. Louisa's after.

1703
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,799
Speaker 3: Just don't wake up her flatmate.

1704
01:19:02,820 --> 01:19:07,100
Speaker 2: She has to work tomorrow. He's in London. Great.

1705
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 3: The guy comes out in his underwear.

1706
01:19:09,740 --> 01:19:11,260
Speaker 2: You guys, come on.

1707
01:19:11,740 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 3: Not every day's a bank holiday.

1708
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:16,620
Speaker 2: And there's also Billy and the Bull is referenced in

1709
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,520
Speaker 2: a Dubliner song and in a Pogue song. So he's legend.

1710
01:19:19,820 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: And that's the story of Billy and the Bull. Yeah. Hey!

1711
01:19:24,540 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: That was great.

1712
01:19:25,540 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1713
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:26,429
Speaker 1: Good job.

1714
01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:31,820
Speaker 2: We did it!

1715
01:19:31,850 --> 01:19:35,689
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1716
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:42,570
Speaker 1: Okay, we're back from Karen's very Irish story. Do you

1717
01:19:42,610 --> 01:19:44,130
Speaker 1: have any updates?

1718
01:19:45,050 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 2: I do. In prison, Bully was assigned hard labor. He

1719
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 2: died there. He was buried in an unmarked grave in

1720
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,220
Speaker 2: an unknown location. Okay, now we're going to go back

1721
01:19:56,460 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: and we're going to listen to this epic hometown song

1722
01:19:59,750 --> 01:20:03,229
Speaker 2: from our first time we were ever in Dublin audience.

1723
01:20:10,420 --> 01:20:11,860
Speaker 3: I think we have.

1724
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: Time for a quick hometown murder.

1725
01:20:13,820 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1726
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you really quick.

1727
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,410
Speaker 2: You might know these rules already, but we had to

1728
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:23,380
Speaker 2: enforce some rules with the hometowns. You can't be so

1729
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,219
Speaker 2: drunk that you can't follow your own story.

1730
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,129
Speaker 3: It's important. You have to stay present.

1731
01:20:28,170 --> 01:20:29,330
Speaker 2: You have to know where you're going.

1732
01:20:29,570 --> 01:20:29,990
Speaker 1: We don't.

1733
01:20:31,850 --> 01:20:32,410
Speaker 3: That's key.

1734
01:20:32,689 --> 01:20:36,540
Speaker 2: But don't be afraid to be super buzzed. Please make

1735
01:20:36,620 --> 01:20:39,580
Speaker 2: it Dublin or close by. Nobody gives a shit if

1736
01:20:39,700 --> 01:20:43,630
Speaker 2: something happened in Arizona. And what else? Oh.

1737
01:20:44,570 --> 01:20:45,290
Speaker 3: Oh, everyone hates you.

1738
01:20:45,950 --> 01:20:48,710
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. If you do get picked, all the people

1739
01:20:48,729 --> 01:20:50,490
Speaker 2: that don't get picked are going to hate your guts,

1740
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:54,820
Speaker 2: so keep it moving. And Georgia, I think it's you, right?

1741
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm on a fucking roll, so don't ruin this for me, guys.

1742
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: Who has a hometown? Nobody? I think that the girl

1743
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,570
Speaker 1: sitting next to our friends that helped us. Yeah, yeah,

1744
01:21:05,610 --> 01:21:06,870
Speaker 1: and the toxic masculinity.

1745
01:21:07,130 --> 01:21:09,590
Speaker 3: Where'd Vince go? Vince is right there. Walk over to him. Oh,

1746
01:21:09,610 --> 01:21:10,509
Speaker 3: there's Vince, everybody.

1747
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:10,630
Speaker 2: Yeah!

1748
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,980
Speaker 1: Vince got us a lovely charcuterie and cheese spread backstage.

1749
01:21:20,380 --> 01:21:21,780
Speaker 2: Vince is our tour manager.

1750
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,020
Speaker 3: He's Georgia's husband.

1751
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:23,389
Speaker 1: That's right.

1752
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:24,089
Speaker 2: He does it all.

1753
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,309
Speaker 3: He does it. Which means we don't have to pay him.

1754
01:21:26,330 --> 01:21:29,370
Speaker 2: No, we pay him sometimes.

1755
01:21:29,390 --> 01:21:30,250
Speaker 3: That's hard labor.

1756
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:31,970
Speaker 2: He's doing his hard labor for free.

1757
01:21:32,030 --> 01:21:34,550
Speaker 1: His hard, stark labor. What?

1758
01:21:34,729 --> 01:21:35,850
Speaker 3: His hard, stark labor.

1759
01:21:35,930 --> 01:21:36,250
Speaker 2: Oh, right.

1760
01:21:37,150 --> 01:21:37,809
Speaker 1: That's so good.

1761
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:37,900
Speaker 2: Huh?

1762
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,140
Speaker 1: What's your name? Ifa.

1763
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:44,979
Speaker 2: Ifa? Ifa.

1764
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:45,180
Speaker 4: Ifa.

1765
01:21:45,380 --> 01:21:45,660
Speaker 5: Hi.

1766
01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:46,380
Speaker 3: Oh, that's cute.

1767
01:21:47,180 --> 01:21:47,980
Speaker 2: Ifa.

1768
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,340
Speaker 3: Here, center up, center up, center up.

1769
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:51,270
Speaker 1: Look at her shoes.

1770
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,650
Speaker 2: Let's do a nice stage picture.

1771
01:21:52,670 --> 01:21:53,769
Speaker 3: Those are great.

1772
01:21:53,790 --> 01:21:55,990
Speaker 2: Will you tell me your name, sorry? Ifa. Ifa?

1773
01:21:56,030 --> 01:21:56,210
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1774
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:56,710
Speaker 2: Awesome.

1775
01:21:57,010 --> 01:22:01,780
Speaker 1: Ifa, everybody. Where are you from?

1776
01:22:02,189 --> 01:22:03,049
Speaker 3: I'm from Kerry.

1777
01:22:03,710 --> 01:22:05,650
Speaker 2: You're from Kerry? Yeah. Kerry. She's from Kerry.

1778
01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:08,290
Speaker 3: You guys know it. Did she say it right?

1779
01:22:10,350 --> 01:22:10,690
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1780
01:22:10,729 --> 01:22:11,470
Speaker 3: It's Kerry.

1781
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:13,380
Speaker 2: Jesus.

1782
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:14,460
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1783
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

1784
01:22:15,220 --> 01:22:16,019
Speaker 3: What's your hometown?

1785
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,140
Speaker 5: So my mom is from Westmeath and she's from this

1786
01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 5: tiny village. Like there's not even as many people as

1787
01:22:22,740 --> 01:22:23,300
Speaker 5: there is here.

1788
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:24,740
Speaker 3: Oh, fun.

1789
01:22:25,010 --> 01:22:27,490
Speaker 1: It's called Kool. Kool. Kool.

1790
01:22:29,070 --> 01:22:29,550
Speaker 2: Too easy.

1791
01:22:29,810 --> 01:22:30,809
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry.

1792
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:34,070
Speaker 5: So a family from Dublin moved out there years ago

1793
01:22:34,370 --> 01:22:40,110
Speaker 5: and the father worked in England. So he'd be back

1794
01:22:40,150 --> 01:22:42,440
Speaker 5: and forth and then they just stopped seeing him.

1795
01:22:42,770 --> 01:22:42,910
Speaker 2: Oh.

1796
01:22:43,820 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 5: And then they moved away and they hadn't really got

1797
01:22:46,220 --> 01:22:48,100
Speaker 5: involved with the community, so it was fine.

1798
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:48,780
Speaker 2: Nobody cared.

1799
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,820
Speaker 5: But then the daughter went to the Gardaí.

1800
01:22:56,750 --> 01:22:59,710
Speaker 3: Multiple Garda. Got it. Message received.

1801
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:04,900
Speaker 5: And told them that they had killed him a few

1802
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 5: years back and buried him in their garden.

1803
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:14,860
Speaker 2: Gardee. Gardee. Garden.

1804
01:23:14,900 --> 01:23:15,220
Speaker 4: Got it.

1805
01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:16,900
Speaker 2: Garden. Garden.

1806
01:23:17,060 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 3: And then they dug him up and burnt him somewhere else.

1807
01:23:20,770 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 3: The family did?

1808
01:23:21,689 --> 01:23:21,969
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1809
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:22,770
Speaker 3: What dicks?

1810
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:23,510
Speaker 2: Okay.

1811
01:23:24,410 --> 01:23:27,889
Speaker 5: And then she decided to go to the Gardie because

1812
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:30,370
Speaker 5: she found out her mother was having an affair with

1813
01:23:30,410 --> 01:23:31,349
Speaker 5: her boyfriend.

1814
01:23:31,570 --> 01:23:34,570
Speaker 3: Her own boyfriend? Yes.

1815
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:35,470
Speaker 1: Okay, wait.

1816
01:23:35,490 --> 01:23:36,670
Speaker 3: Who's related?

1817
01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:41,469
Speaker 2: First of all, let's start from the top. No. Yeah.

1818
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:42,050
Speaker 1: Wait.

1819
01:23:42,830 --> 01:23:47,750
Speaker 3: So when they killed the father, was it the mother's idea? Yes.

1820
01:23:47,810 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 3: The mother and the boyfriend.

1821
01:23:50,260 --> 01:23:51,220
Speaker 2: They tricked the kids.

1822
01:23:51,530 --> 01:23:53,380
Speaker 3: They tricked the daughter into the plan.

1823
01:23:56,260 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 2: No way.

1824
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,140
Speaker 3: It's her cousin.

1825
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: What?

1826
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:07,269
Speaker 3: Who is it? She looks nice. She doesn't look bad.

1827
01:24:08,350 --> 01:24:09,950
Speaker 3: You better come up here right now.

1828
01:24:09,970 --> 01:24:12,170
Speaker 1: She looks nice.

1829
01:24:12,410 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 5: It was like just down the road from my mom's house.

1830
01:24:19,180 --> 01:24:20,620
Speaker 3: Maybe you're related.

1831
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:21,580
Speaker 1: No way.

1832
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:22,440
Speaker 2: Vince.

1833
01:24:24,830 --> 01:24:26,140
Speaker 1: Go around here.

1834
01:24:27,340 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry. We got to hear this. What

1835
01:24:30,260 --> 01:24:34,990
Speaker 2: the hell's going on? Move it.

1836
01:24:35,010 --> 01:24:42,709
Speaker 6: This is unprecedented. She's her cousin. She yelled, it's my cousin.

1837
01:24:42,850 --> 01:24:44,450
Speaker 6: And then I was like, oh shit. And then I

1838
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:46,269
Speaker 6: saw her face and she doesn't look angry, so we're good.

1839
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:49,299
Speaker 3: It's going to be okay. This is the great fear

1840
01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 3: that we all have.

1841
01:24:50,420 --> 01:24:53,020
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're really fucked up over this PTSD.

1842
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

1843
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: It's doing great. Hi.

1844
01:24:55,760 --> 01:25:06,260
Speaker 2: What's your name? Hi. Hi.

1845
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,219
Speaker 3: Come up here.

1846
01:25:08,260 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: What's your name?

1847
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: That's Effa, right?

1848
01:25:09,939 --> 01:25:13,030
Speaker 2: What is it? Effa. Effa, shit. Hi.

1849
01:25:13,310 --> 01:25:15,090
Speaker 3: How do you meet Effa? Emma.

1850
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:15,910
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.

1851
01:25:16,010 --> 01:25:16,550
Speaker 3: Okay.

1852
01:25:17,010 --> 01:25:17,750
Speaker 1: They're sharing.

1853
01:25:17,770 --> 01:25:18,590
Speaker 5: Do it in the microphone.

1854
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:23,689
Speaker 3: Okay.

1855
01:25:24,510 --> 01:25:25,670
Speaker 1: Okay, so your cousin.

1856
01:25:25,729 --> 01:25:27,010
Speaker 3: Who's your cousin?

1857
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:30,930
Speaker 1: Don't talk privately on stage, please.

1858
01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 3: We were going to email in about our auntie.

1859
01:25:35,820 --> 01:25:40,180
Speaker 1: But we decided not to. But then Aoife.

1860
01:25:39,740 --> 01:25:43,830
Speaker 6: Came on stage and told all about her auntie.

1861
01:25:43,930 --> 01:25:47,070
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not an auntie that we talk to.

1862
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:48,710
Speaker 6: Okay.

1863
01:25:49,470 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: Good. Oh my God. You know the kind. Oh, we

1864
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: got those.

1865
01:25:56,620 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 3: You know we know what she's done. Oh my God.

1866
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,849
Speaker 2: And we know she has a book.

1867
01:26:02,970 --> 01:26:05,430
Speaker 1: A book? She wrote a book about her. You don't

1868
01:26:05,470 --> 01:26:07,589
Speaker 1: get to do that if you're the murderer.

1869
01:26:07,610 --> 01:26:09,450
Speaker 2: Wait, so will you.

1870
01:26:09,390 --> 01:26:11,330
Speaker 3: Run it down for us just really quick? Yeah, we

1871
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:11,839
Speaker 3: see we don't.

1872
01:26:12,830 --> 01:26:14,010
Speaker 2: You don't talk about it? No, no.

1873
01:26:14,170 --> 01:26:16,490
Speaker 3: Do you see? Everyone in coolness. The parents, you ask

1874
01:26:16,510 --> 01:26:18,410
Speaker 3: the parents and they're like, oh, no. We don't talk

1875
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:18,950
Speaker 3: about that.

1876
01:26:18,970 --> 01:26:22,010
Speaker 2: No, we can't tell you anything. Oh, they won't tell

1877
01:26:22,030 --> 01:26:22,710
Speaker 2: you anything? We can't.

1878
01:26:22,729 --> 01:26:23,650
Speaker 3: It's just a book. Just tell us.

1879
01:26:23,650 --> 01:26:24,790
Speaker 2: We won't tell anyone.

1880
01:26:24,850 --> 01:26:27,730
Speaker 3: We're not going to tell anyone, right? We're keeping it here.

1881
01:26:27,790 --> 01:26:30,110
Speaker 3: You said there was a bonfire.

1882
01:26:30,220 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the bones were left. There was also an

1883
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,560
Speaker 2: under patio. Yeah.

1884
01:26:35,620 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: And then they decided that wasn't good enough.

1885
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,440
Speaker 3: So they brought it up and went.

1886
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: To the pigs.

1887
01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:41,979
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1888
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:42,340
Speaker 2: Oh!

1889
01:26:44,939 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 3: Oh, shit.

1890
01:26:48,020 --> 01:26:50,740
Speaker 1: But family don't associate with that. No, it's okay.

1891
01:26:50,860 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: Aoife just goes, I didn't get to the pig's part.

1892
01:26:53,300 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 2: I forgot, yeah.

1893
01:26:54,930 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 3: My mom didn't know the pig's part.

1894
01:26:56,780 --> 01:26:58,610
Speaker 2: Oh, she didn't know.

1895
01:26:58,650 --> 01:26:59,830
Speaker 3: I'm so glad we accepted.

1896
01:26:59,850 --> 01:27:02,330
Speaker 4: You guys, this all stays in this room tonight.

1897
01:27:02,510 --> 01:27:07,490
Speaker 2: Please, please, don't tell anyone. There was bits.

1898
01:27:07,330 --> 01:27:08,110
Speaker 3: Left in the pig.

1899
01:27:08,229 --> 01:27:11,889
Speaker 2: That's how they found out. That's how they proved that.

1900
01:27:11,950 --> 01:27:14,850
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was the mother.

1901
01:27:16,180 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 2: Who's the daughter's husband.

1902
01:27:19,180 --> 01:27:25,260
Speaker 3: Uh-huh. So the daughter went to the Gardie. To the Gardie. Multiple.

1903
01:27:25,420 --> 01:27:28,300
Speaker 1: And said, hey, there's something shitty going on.

1904
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 2: Oh, God.

1905
01:27:28,620 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 3: Good for her. A woman scorned, man.

1906
01:27:31,650 --> 01:27:33,570
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Like, fucking watch it.

1907
01:27:33,689 --> 01:27:36,229
Speaker 3: So she brought out a book. And now it's that, hey,

1908
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:36,990
Speaker 3: fuck you.

1909
01:27:37,689 --> 01:27:37,979
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.

1910
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:40,190
Speaker 3: What do you want about it? I don't know. It

1911
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:41,030
Speaker 3: was like a diary.

1912
01:27:41,050 --> 01:27:43,189
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Our family walked out of school.

1913
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,860
Speaker 3: And so she's in jail now. She's gone.

1914
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: She's in jail now. She's out.

1915
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 3: And she's like, I'm right here.

1916
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:52,140
Speaker 2: Murder.

1917
01:27:56,130 --> 01:27:57,330
Speaker 3: The wife was done for murder.

1918
01:27:57,490 --> 01:27:57,689
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1919
01:27:58,070 --> 01:28:01,420
Speaker 1: The daughter's husband was done for manslaughter.

1920
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.

1921
01:28:02,340 --> 01:28:03,580
Speaker 3: I will find out the name of the book.

1922
01:28:03,900 --> 01:28:04,139
Speaker 2: Okay.

1923
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: Because I have it.

1924
01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 3: Okay, great.

1925
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1926
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: And I will, I'll come up.

1927
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm not going to read it.

1928
01:28:08,350 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to shout at you. I love it.

1929
01:28:10,990 --> 01:28:11,330
Speaker 1: That's great.

1930
01:28:11,370 --> 01:28:14,570
Speaker 2: You guys, this is an amazing seven-part series right now

1931
01:28:14,590 --> 01:28:17,110
Speaker 2: that we have. Give them a round of applause. Let's

1932
01:28:17,250 --> 01:28:18,380
Speaker 2: hear it for all of these guys.

1933
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:22,849
Speaker 1: Good job.

1934
01:28:23,370 --> 01:28:24,510
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1935
01:28:24,710 --> 01:28:26,230
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.

1936
01:28:26,270 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1937
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: Oh my God.

1938
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:41,349
Speaker 4: We'll call you guys later. That could have been.

1939
01:28:41,050 --> 01:28:44,930
Speaker 1: A fucking clusterfuck, and it wasn't, and I'm so grateful

1940
01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:45,350
Speaker 1: for that.

1941
01:28:45,890 --> 01:28:47,570
Speaker 3: I'm sweating a little extra.

1942
01:28:47,630 --> 01:28:50,020
Speaker 2: I love that they came up and they had less

1943
01:28:50,140 --> 01:28:53,259
Speaker 2: information than Aoife did. Fuck yes.

1944
01:28:54,380 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.

1945
01:28:55,380 --> 01:28:57,099
Speaker 2: It would have been cool if we'd get like 30

1946
01:28:57,100 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: people on this stage just.

1947
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,990
Speaker 3: Milling around of like, well, I've heard this story. I

1948
01:29:01,030 --> 01:29:02,430
Speaker 3: would like to say this and that.

1949
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:04,950
Speaker 1: You forgot the part of the pig, the chickens. You

1950
01:29:04,970 --> 01:29:05,830
Speaker 1: forgot the chickens.

1951
01:29:10,620 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: All right. That was our first show in Dublin. It

1952
01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:17,850
Speaker 2: was originally entitled Live at Vicar Street in Dublin. But

1953
01:29:17,900 --> 01:29:20,509
Speaker 2: if we are naming it today, we have many choices

1954
01:29:20,650 --> 01:29:21,590
Speaker 2: of what we could name it.

1955
01:29:23,189 --> 01:29:25,830
Speaker 3: Please Whisper is a great one, I think. If you're

1956
01:29:25,970 --> 01:29:28,189
Speaker 3: going to be boring, please whisper.

1957
01:29:28,890 --> 01:29:30,849
Speaker 2: If you're going to be boring, please whisper. High on

1958
01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:31,790
Speaker 2: Brute's really good.

1959
01:29:34,130 --> 01:29:37,089
Speaker 3: Redundant Bear. Furry Bear.

1960
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:39,229
Speaker 2: De Classe was good.

1961
01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:41,170
Speaker 3: A big ficus plant.

1962
01:29:41,650 --> 01:29:44,150
Speaker 2: I mean, we're just, there's so many choices.

1963
01:29:44,270 --> 01:29:44,970
Speaker 3: We could do it all.

1964
01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:47,150
Speaker 2: Well, that's this week's episode of Rewind.

1965
01:29:47,410 --> 01:29:50,310
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Let's go back to 2018 Dublin to

1966
01:29:50,350 --> 01:29:50,849
Speaker 1: say goodbye.

1967
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 2: That was Dublin. Yeah. This has been amazing. So good.

1968
01:29:57,820 --> 01:30:01,050
Speaker 2: Oh my God. Thank you.

1969
01:30:01,850 --> 01:30:03,670
Speaker 3: Thank you to our translators.

1970
01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:08,430
Speaker 2: Emily, you made it happen. Louise, thank you so much.

1971
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:10,970
Speaker 1: This is a really, really awesome way to kick off

1972
01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: our tour, our big Europe tour, our big UK and

1973
01:30:14,910 --> 01:30:15,580
Speaker 1: Ireland tour.

1974
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: And Dublin, you guys not only are our kickoff show,

1975
01:30:20,660 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: you sold out two nights. That's so amazing.

1976
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1977
01:30:25,660 --> 01:30:29,970
Speaker 2: Thank you. We can't. It's very difficult for us to

1978
01:30:30,010 --> 01:30:34,490
Speaker 2: convey how insane this is, where we just started taping

1979
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:37,710
Speaker 2: our personal conversations at Georgia's house two years ago. And

1980
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:41,450
Speaker 2: now we're in Ireland talking to a thousand people.

1981
01:30:41,630 --> 01:30:41,990
Speaker 1: I mean, it's.

1982
01:30:44,610 --> 01:30:46,950
Speaker 3: It's fucking amazing. We're honored.

1983
01:30:47,070 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 1: And we know it's all because of you guys, obviously.

1984
01:30:49,740 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: And we appreciate it so much.

1985
01:30:51,260 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 3: And we're so grateful.

1986
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,860
Speaker 2: We have the best time. And it's because you guys are,

1987
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,940
Speaker 2: you're the best listeners and the best people to talk

1988
01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: to about this crazy fucked up shit that we're all

1989
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 2: so fascinated by.

1990
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 3: So thank you so much.

1991
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:03,919
Speaker 2: And stay sexy.

1992
01:31:03,939 --> 01:31:08,940
Speaker 3: Elvis, do you want a cookie?