Speaker 1: What's up? Family? Is your girl? To Mika d Mallory,
Speaker 1: this your boy, and we are your hosts of street politicians,
Speaker 1: the places, the streets and politics. Me. What's going on,
Speaker 1: mister lenin our society? Oh man, lord, And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you it's a lot, lot, lot, lot, lot a lot happening.
Speaker 1: But I spent time today with little four year olds
Speaker 1: and five year olds and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is where I need to be, Like I think
Speaker 1: that this is my next life. I need to be
Speaker 1: with them because the first of all, they're hilarious and
Speaker 1: they're you know, they like still in their terrible twos,
Speaker 1: but they're so sweet. They said such nice things to me.
Speaker 1: The girls were like, you're pretty. And then the boys
Speaker 1: were like, well tell me what you do, and they
Speaker 1: were very in quick positive and it was just a
Speaker 1: great space. And I was actually with our family at
Speaker 1: gb n Y, which is an athletics store in Queens.
Speaker 1: They sell sneakers and they always get the like top whatever,
Speaker 1: the freshest flyers whoever sneakers come out. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know much about that, but they get them. And
Speaker 1: a lot of celebrities, including Jim Jones, who was there
Speaker 1: today with me at this event. They they are like
Speaker 1: a real exclusive place that a lot of celebrities go
Speaker 1: to and therefore they know they have a big responsibility.
Speaker 1: And today g the owner was talking about how much
Speaker 1: no matter where he goes or what he does, he
Speaker 1: wants to give things away. So they teamed up with
Speaker 1: Adidas and gave away one hundred thousand dollars worth of
Speaker 1: sneakers to families and kids today in a school in
Speaker 1: Harlem PS one seventy nine. Super cool our guy, big brother,
Speaker 1: mister Footwork brought me into and had me to be there,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, these kids, this is I
Speaker 1: have to be with the kids because the adults, the
Speaker 1: adults is dropping. Adult team is different. But you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta protect the kids too, man, because it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, speaking of crazy things going on with kids,
Speaker 1: um in Florida. In Miami, your Florida is literally off
Speaker 1: the chain. It's like, you know, they got the senses
Speaker 1: out there, man, crazy, but it's always been crazy, and
Speaker 1: it's just crazier. Um. They had a daycare center and
Speaker 1: a bunch of white kids in the daycare center there
Speaker 1: with other children as well, black kids, you know, diverse
Speaker 1: group of people, the two year olds for Black History Month,
Speaker 1: the teachers decided to paint their faces black face, and
Speaker 1: then they took the photos from they didn't follow shot
Speaker 1: of the little two your old white kids with the
Speaker 1: black face, and put it on their social media accounts,
Speaker 1: and of course the black folks lost it. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I was on the internet scrolling yesterday and I saw
Speaker 1: a story about daycare and black people pulling their kids out,
Speaker 1: and you know what I did, scrolled on past it
Speaker 1: as fast as I could, because I just didn't even know.
Speaker 1: I was thinking it was gonna be something, you know,
Speaker 1: something else, and I just couldn't deal with it. It's
Speaker 1: just too much. I don't even understand. I'm thinking maybe
Speaker 1: they didn't know they were doing something wrong. I don't
Speaker 1: know how. You don't know in this era, in this
Speaker 1: day and age, that black face, that black people don't
Speaker 1: want it. We don't want it. It ain't no sign
Speaker 1: of you know, celebrate, We don't it ain't It's not okay.
Speaker 1: No black person wants you in black face. We don't
Speaker 1: want to say that. Some black people might. No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Nobody wants it. We don't want it,
Speaker 1: don't want it. It ain't gonna work for you. Man.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't want to give y'all don't want to teach,
Speaker 1: you know, black history, but you want to play paint
Speaker 1: black faces. It's so crazy. But that's why I said,
Speaker 1: I have to start changing my mindset, because if I
Speaker 1: sit with everything that's going on, that's just one boom
Speaker 1: boom boomom this that over everything, I lose my mind.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to lose my mind. And people
Speaker 1: really do lose their minds, like this is a thing,
Speaker 1: like you know, as we start to get older, Alzheimers
Speaker 1: and all these things start to become a problem, as
Speaker 1: they call it, the all timers in our community, the
Speaker 1: all timers, and the and the dementia and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You cannot be out here stressing yourself out every day
Speaker 1: with what's going on in this world. And I'm convinced
Speaker 1: that they just have stuff bang bang bang bang bang
Speaker 1: all day long, so that you're so all over the
Speaker 1: place that you can't even focus on one particular thing.
Speaker 1: So therefore I have to believe that maybe they just
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they didn't know. Maybe they thought
Speaker 1: they were honoring or teaching the white kids what it
Speaker 1: feels like to be black. And I don't think it's right.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm being sort of sarcastic and even facetious,
Speaker 1: if you will, But I'm still just trying to see
Speaker 1: where the ribbon and the sky is that perhaps because
Speaker 1: if you don't want it, but we don't want it,
Speaker 1: but if you took pictures of it and you post it,
Speaker 1: you couldn't have thought it was wrong. Right, you don't
Speaker 1: want it, but we don't want it, Like that's the
Speaker 1: black mind. And and it's been proven because every time
Speaker 1: somebody does it, they get the same reaction. So if
Speaker 1: you're doing this as a teacher, you know, and you
Speaker 1: you and you're a grown person in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: then you're not paying it. You're not reading the room,
Speaker 1: you're not paying attention to anything that's going on. You
Speaker 1: don't get it, you know what I'm saying. And and
Speaker 1: and in ignorance is not an excuse for for what
Speaker 1: it is. At this point, you're supposed to know, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's just pretty much that it's weird though, vibes
Speaker 1: like totally weird though, And it's like, like you said,
Speaker 1: they don't want us to learn our history. And it
Speaker 1: seems that there's such a fascination still though with us,
Speaker 1: like they want to cast it out of society. Basically,
Speaker 1: they don't want you to learn about yourself. They want
Speaker 1: to kill you. They don't want anybody to fight or
Speaker 1: stand up for you. They don't want you to stand
Speaker 1: up for yourself. They don't want to treat your kids right.
Speaker 1: They want to lock you up. They want to do
Speaker 1: all this, and yet and still they won't leave us alone.
Speaker 1: It like, you want, why are you painting these shows?
Speaker 1: You should never do that because you don't want them
Speaker 1: to be black. You don't even really want them to
Speaker 1: have an experience or understanding of what it is that
Speaker 1: we as black people are beyond enslavement and oppression, like
Speaker 1: we have so many other great things, and for some reason,
Speaker 1: y'all just won't leave us alone. It's very weird to me,
Speaker 1: very very speaking of Bida, Florida and education, though, I'm
Speaker 1: really proud of something that we started working on recently.
Speaker 1: We've talked on the show a few times about the
Speaker 1: band on the African American Studies Class the AP course
Speaker 1: in Florida, where they put out a curriculum that I
Speaker 1: found to be strong, show it has holes. We talked
Speaker 1: about some of the things that I wish it had
Speaker 1: more titles addressing black men. You know, we talked about
Speaker 1: some of the things. But what they teach now is
Speaker 1: damn there nothing. So the curriculum that has been built
Speaker 1: that teaches about prior to enslavement all the way through
Speaker 1: the Transatlantic slave trade and talks about the reparations movement,
Speaker 1: the movement for justice and the black lives not a movement,
Speaker 1: I mean it is extensive in terms of all the
Speaker 1: things that the new curriculum was proposing. Then it was banned,
Speaker 1: of course by the I think it was the board,
Speaker 1: the curriculum board, or the education. There wasn't the or
Speaker 1: the education though, but there's a department that looks at curriculum.
Speaker 1: They were the first ones to strike it and say
Speaker 1: that the information was it went too far, and you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't feel that it was necessary curriculum and that
Speaker 1: you know, much of the information was not appropriate for
Speaker 1: these high school students. And of course Governor Desantest used
Speaker 1: that he was he was like, yep, they're with me.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to thank them for seeing the issues.
Speaker 1: He talked about the stay woke movement. There's actually actual
Speaker 1: legislation in Florida to ban stay Woke and that whole
Speaker 1: concept of teachers and workplaces and others focusing on the
Speaker 1: woke movement, if you will. In fact, Governor Desantest said
Speaker 1: that woke Florida is the place that woke comes to die.
Speaker 1: Like he said that, So those are his words. So
Speaker 1: there's a real attack, and you know, he was very
Speaker 1: excited and making sure that as governor, he doubled down
Speaker 1: on banning the curriculum. So it went back to the
Speaker 1: committee that helped to design it, and they watered it
Speaker 1: down and now it's like, you know, it's cool, still
Speaker 1: better than it was, but it doesn't have the elements
Speaker 1: in it, especially when you're trying to teach black kids,
Speaker 1: African kids, and teach other communities about our struggles about
Speaker 1: you know, who we are and how we come into
Speaker 1: relationship with this country. So we decided because when I
Speaker 1: was posting about it and talking about it, people were like, well,
Speaker 1: I would love to learn that stuff. I would love
Speaker 1: to take those classes. Do you know where we can
Speaker 1: get the information? Is this curriculum somewhere that we can
Speaker 1: download it? And a lot of people were asking. So
Speaker 1: people asked and we listened. We heard that we understand
Speaker 1: the necessity to make sure this information gets out there,
Speaker 1: and that one of the ways we combat in addition
Speaker 1: to protests and all of that, but one of the
Speaker 1: ways that we have to fight back against the the
Speaker 1: the UH, the intention to whitewash history is by providing
Speaker 1: it and teaching it ourselves. And so Until Freedom has
Speaker 1: announced in this week tomorrow actually will be the first
Speaker 1: day that folks will get an opportunity to participate in
Speaker 1: a six weeks, six week course where we're going to
Speaker 1: actually be having instructors and professors to come in and
Speaker 1: teach much of the material that was in the ap
Speaker 1: course and also just material that even goes beyond that.
Speaker 1: So nope, dope, dope. What is it called. It's called
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn today, not today. Yeah, you're gonna learn
Speaker 1: today from Until Freedom's Academy and throughout Academy. Just for
Speaker 1: folks who may not know, it is an area within
Speaker 1: Until Freedom Out organization where we teach people about a
Speaker 1: lot of things. We teach them about protests and you know,
Speaker 1: help train folksman. We were in Louisville, Kentucky, living, we
Speaker 1: trained hundreds of people to get ready for a protest
Speaker 1: and civil disobedience. Um, you know, we really try to
Speaker 1: focus on helping people to educating them on protest movements
Speaker 1: and the strategies and also the safety measures that have
Speaker 1: to be taken into account and then what happens after
Speaker 1: a protest. And so our academy is fully functional. We
Speaker 1: do a lot of work with it. But this is
Speaker 1: a new area where we're going to be specifically focusing
Speaker 1: on African and African American history. Six classes. You can
Speaker 1: sign up where you would pay two hundred and forty
Speaker 1: nine dollars for all six classes, or you can get
Speaker 1: individual classes for sixty five dollars and instructors are amazing.
Speaker 1: So yes, that's what I'm looking for. I'm gonna learn.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn that, ain't you know? On a much
Speaker 1: more painful and just a sad, sad, sad, sad terrible.
Speaker 1: Every time it happens is more terrible than the last time.
Speaker 1: And we just are living in a place, in a society,
Speaker 1: in a time where anything can happen at any moment,
Speaker 1: and you know, you say why me when the bad
Speaker 1: things happened, But the question then becomes why not you,
Speaker 1: because if it can happen to somebody else, it can
Speaker 1: certainly happen to you. And the tragic shooting that happened
Speaker 1: at Michigan State, and we're talking about education, people in
Speaker 1: a classroom trying to get their education. Students were killed
Speaker 1: by a man, a black man by the way. I
Speaker 1: think he was forty three years old, went into to
Speaker 1: the school. They still have not been able to find
Speaker 1: any connection between him and Michigan State. He went into
Speaker 1: this school shot at least eight people, or at least
Speaker 1: they say that eight people were injured in the shooting,
Speaker 1: so that could be that somebody fell down the stairs
Speaker 1: or broke their leg or whatever. So we haven't heard
Speaker 1: all the details of the injuries to each individual person. However,
Speaker 1: to see that, you know, when the doctors were on
Speaker 1: the news speaking about the incident, the doctor started crying,
Speaker 1: so God only knows what they saw and just the emotion.
Speaker 1: It's just too much. It's too much for everybody first responded,
Speaker 1: first of all, the people in the shooting, then the
Speaker 1: people watching it on the news, the students in the
Speaker 1: windows watching and running, the first responders, the doctors. It's
Speaker 1: too much trauma all around. But there were three fatalities
Speaker 1: so far, hopefully no more. A young brother by the
Speaker 1: name of Brian Frasier, young lady Alexandria Werner, and then
Speaker 1: Ariel Anderson. Ariel Anderson is the niece of a friend
Speaker 1: to us and until freedom and that is reality star Delicious.
Speaker 1: And you know again, fifty thousand plus students on a campus.
Speaker 1: Ariel gets killed and all these three, these three individuals
Speaker 1: get killed by this man. And your family has to
Speaker 1: be saying, why my child? You know, why my child?
Speaker 1: But then the answer is why not your child? Because
Speaker 1: it could be anybody. It's just so crazy, man, that
Speaker 1: you're sending your kid to college as a as a
Speaker 1: black person. You know what I'm saying, You work hard,
Speaker 1: whatever you have to do. You want to provide your
Speaker 1: children with an opportunity to have a better life than
Speaker 1: you did, right, so you know, just just knowing how
Speaker 1: that just trying just identifying with that in itself. You
Speaker 1: know that you you think I didn't send my kid
Speaker 1: to college. She's good, she's in good hands, she's a
Speaker 1: good person. And you get a call there's some psycho
Speaker 1: person then took this little baby's life. Man, these kids
Speaker 1: life and it's just it's it's it pains my heart
Speaker 1: to even think about that. You know, our kids are
Speaker 1: just not safe anywhere. Nowhere can we go that these
Speaker 1: babies are safe, man, And you know, it's it's my
Speaker 1: heart goes out to the family. You know, it really
Speaker 1: pains me to even just just fathom that. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't even know what that looks like. And
Speaker 1: you know, when we've seen um delicious trying to find
Speaker 1: a young girl that was even worse the whole world got,
Speaker 1: you know, like trying to find like did anybody here
Speaker 1: from anybody? It didn't to find out that she lost
Speaker 1: a life. Man. You know, my my candoless goes out
Speaker 1: to the family. It's tough. It's really tough. And you know,
Speaker 1: I know, obviously we would not take away from any
Speaker 1: one of these people who have been harmed, injured, and
Speaker 1: those who are deceased at all of the matter, they
Speaker 1: equally matter. It's terrible no matter who it is. And
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that people know that Ariel
Speaker 1: hurts because we know her family, you know, obviously we
Speaker 1: know her aunt, and of course it is for that,
Speaker 1: but it also hurts. We can't ignore it. We can't
Speaker 1: not talk about it. It hurts because it was a
Speaker 1: black man who went into that school and shot this
Speaker 1: young black girl studying to be a pediatrician in her classroom,
Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing, and we can't act
Speaker 1: like that does not have a particular sting it is.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have, because every time there is a mass shooting,
Speaker 1: no matter who is the perpetrator of it, I'm hurt, bleeding,
Speaker 1: can't believe it. It takes me into trauma and depression
Speaker 1: because it's terrible, and it just so happens that this
Speaker 1: week we went from the shooting in Michigan State grieving
Speaker 1: with our sister Delicious and her family and of course
Speaker 1: these other families, and then watching in the same week
Speaker 1: the Buffalo shooter be sentenced after he shot our elderly
Speaker 1: people and other family, other black folks, and by the way,
Speaker 1: didn't shoot the white man that he pointed his gun towards,
Speaker 1: right He did that, and we had to watch those
Speaker 1: families stand in and address him and try to pour
Speaker 1: out their hearts about how much it hurt. And he
Speaker 1: had the audacity to say, I wish I could take
Speaker 1: it back, but I can't. I wish I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: It was a terrible thing. And the and the families
Speaker 1: just like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking
Speaker 1: kidding me? And they should have let the man that
Speaker 1: was trying to charge at him whoop his ass. They
Speaker 1: should have just got out the way and let that happen.
Speaker 1: Didn't get a little whoop whoop ass man, Listen, I
Speaker 1: would have paid put some money on his books. Man,
Speaker 1: whoop his ass. And I'd to put some money on
Speaker 1: the man's books. Man. I mean, I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. There's people like, well, that's not the answer.
Speaker 1: That's the answer. Man should be a to whoop somebody's
Speaker 1: ass that takes a life of love, innocent person that
Speaker 1: he at least could get an ass. So that's not
Speaker 1: the answer. What are you talking about? It's too much,
Speaker 1: it's too much. And I it just was. It was
Speaker 1: a rough week watching all of that happen in one
Speaker 1: week and knowing that, you know, it used to be
Speaker 1: an area that we weren't as much of, we weren't
Speaker 1: victims of, even though you know, we think about like
Speaker 1: the Sandy Hook, the young lady from Sandy Hoo, it's
Speaker 1: a young white girl. She was a Sandy Hook as
Speaker 1: a kid and survived that. And now she's a student
Speaker 1: at Michigan State and has now survived this. So even if,
Speaker 1: even if, even though she maybe a lot breathing physically
Speaker 1: well mentally, she never even got over the first trauma.
Speaker 1: But she was so little and now here we took
Speaker 1: about twenty whatever years later, and now you're in college
Speaker 1: and it happens again. She's never going to be right.
Speaker 1: And so we greed as a society, all of us
Speaker 1: greed about Sandy Hook, and you know Columbine, and the
Speaker 1: list goes on in so many lists I can't even
Speaker 1: bring them up. But now our own people are participating
Speaker 1: in and becoming victims of this, and that goes to
Speaker 1: show you, which is why we've always said the gun
Speaker 1: violence fight is not a fight for one community or
Speaker 1: one group of people, because it happens to us. We
Speaker 1: see the LGBTQI a community suffering. Just recently the Asian community.
Speaker 1: There was a shooting that happened there where people died.
Speaker 1: This thing is spreading and moving into every community. When
Speaker 1: black folks, who may who we may not have as
Speaker 1: many people dying at one time in a school in
Speaker 1: a building in one place, right, At one point, you
Speaker 1: didn't have that. But we were saying that mass shootings
Speaker 1: was twelve people getting shot in Chicago and one night
Speaker 1: in Harlem, a shooting that took the lives of three
Speaker 1: people on one summer night. For us, that was mass shootings.
Speaker 1: And we were saying the world needed to rally together
Speaker 1: and stand up and fight against it, and provide resources
Speaker 1: and deal with mental health and deal with these issues.
Speaker 1: Nobody listened to us when we said that. People didn't
Speaker 1: see it as being a big wire, just thugs and
Speaker 1: just you know. And now every community is dealing with
Speaker 1: its own form of mass shootings and violence that's out
Speaker 1: of control, and I just I don't want to live
Speaker 1: in that world. It's it's crazy, right because we see
Speaker 1: how how guns are just rampidly affecting every like you said,
Speaker 1: every community. And the fact that there are still people
Speaker 1: who don't even want background checks on guns, right, the
Speaker 1: fact that they're not even afraid that the gun can
Speaker 1: get into the hands of the wrong person who would
Speaker 1: take kids lives. They don't even want no level of accountability.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me. I've seen now that they're they're
Speaker 1: proposing to enter a bill where guns will have trackers on,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and things like that makes
Speaker 1: sense to me, Like, it's no way because I mean
Speaker 1: because if if the gun is not tracked, if you're
Speaker 1: giving people's licenses and all that shit, anyway, you're tracking
Speaker 1: everybody else doing everything else. You can't walk outside without
Speaker 1: your eyes is being take face to recognition and everything.
Speaker 1: So why not putting on guns that's taking more lives
Speaker 1: than anything in this world? That's a face where you
Speaker 1: should be the most responsible as you've ever been in
Speaker 1: your life, as exactly. And people should be held accountable,
Speaker 1: and people should be able to be monitored they have guns.
Speaker 1: People should have mental health checks. Type of shit need
Speaker 1: to go into when you're when you're putting a weapon,
Speaker 1: allowing to want to have a weapon, there should be
Speaker 1: a level of accountability, a level of um research, you know,
Speaker 1: a level of mental all these things. We need to
Speaker 1: be sure that the person that you've given this gun
Speaker 1: to it's not going to go out the engine shoot people. Man.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know why anybody would
Speaker 1: keep pushing back on that. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about the legislative piece,
Speaker 1: because they we always get the prayers and well wishes
Speaker 1: and everybody is so sad, but they don't move on it.
Speaker 1: And I, you know, I believe that they're there. I
Speaker 1: believe in the conspiracy theory that I don't think is
Speaker 1: a conspiracy. I think it's a theory that there are
Speaker 1: people in this country that are afraid to put their
Speaker 1: guns down and to have true gun control because they
Speaker 1: want to be able to have access to weapons in
Speaker 1: the event that they are part of insurrection type of behavior. Right,
Speaker 1: they have a war plan, and a part of their
Speaker 1: war plan is their weapons. Every army needs its weapons
Speaker 1: to be able to fight, right, and they have an
Speaker 1: army that the NRA, the gun companies and others are
Speaker 1: part of. And if there's too many regulations, those regulations
Speaker 1: also will affect them because you can't have black people
Speaker 1: having to do get background checks Latino people, and then
Speaker 1: you don't have to do it for rifles, so they
Speaker 1: need to leave it open. The other part of it
Speaker 1: is they know, as long as they can get access
Speaker 1: to guns in our hands, will do most of the
Speaker 1: killing against ourselves unfortunately, So there's a whole war plan.
Speaker 1: Nothing that is happening that is happening in society is
Speaker 1: just because just you know what, you call it random. No,
Speaker 1: it's all very strategic, and we just better know that.
Speaker 1: We better know that. I was going to talk about
Speaker 1: something else today, and we're gonna be having our guests
Speaker 1: come on soon. Then I'm gonna do a whole lot
Speaker 1: on an experience that I recently had with and I
Speaker 1: kind of you know, it's been a month now, a
Speaker 1: little less than a month, but I haven't really talked
Speaker 1: about it one because we've been busy and so much
Speaker 1: was going on, and it was vacation and a lot
Speaker 1: of things going on. But I want to talk about
Speaker 1: these apps. Airbnb was the one that I had a
Speaker 1: particular issue with, but I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: ass the ubers and all these apps and how now
Speaker 1: that these acts have been created to provide quicker ways
Speaker 1: to make reservations, to eat, you know, to get deliveries
Speaker 1: and all of that, the customer service aspect of it
Speaker 1: is going away completely right, there's no customer service being
Speaker 1: upheld or or or or actually being um If there's
Speaker 1: no customers, yea mandated, but I'm looking forward that. In
Speaker 1: other words, there there is there's no attempt, no intention
Speaker 1: at true customer service because the app is taking the
Speaker 1: place of human interaction. And the problem with that is
Speaker 1: that on one side, right, many of these apps, they're
Speaker 1: making incredible money, incredible money. Over is making incredible money, right,
Speaker 1: all who eats, they got all these things, you have,
Speaker 1: all these different delivery services, Airbnb is making money, and
Speaker 1: the people who are spending money are not getting the
Speaker 1: service that they need in terms of the customer service
Speaker 1: that's necessary so that they have a good experience. And
Speaker 1: that is something I was on the phone doing something
Speaker 1: with my remote control and my cable company, and by
Speaker 1: the time I went through a few prompts and what
Speaker 1: they're asking me to do, I already did. I changed
Speaker 1: the batteries, I did this, I did all of that.
Speaker 1: I need somebody to get on the phone to hear
Speaker 1: one of this. And I'm going through and by the
Speaker 1: time I wasn't able to select any of the things
Speaker 1: that they only specifically want to talk about. It cut
Speaker 1: me off. It just that was it. And that type
Speaker 1: of behavior is happening in multiple areas, you know, with
Speaker 1: scum today and they was doing the same thing to me.
Speaker 1: They tell you what you want to talk about you
Speaker 1: try to talk to them, and then they said, all right,
Speaker 1: well call back later and just disconnect you. And then
Speaker 1: you're on the phone for four and five hours. Last week,
Speaker 1: I got a fucking boot on my car for registration,
Speaker 1: and they telling me all of these steps to go through.
Speaker 1: I finally get the steps, I go through all of them,
Speaker 1: and it's like there's a setup because they tell me
Speaker 1: somewhere on my registrations. So by the time I get
Speaker 1: the registration field, they won't give me the copy of
Speaker 1: the registration to send. Then they wait twenty four hours
Speaker 1: and then they know by the time they send you
Speaker 1: the copy of to send to them that they can
Speaker 1: tow your car. So five minutes before they sent me
Speaker 1: the copy of the registration, the people don't told my car.
Speaker 1: So that's another one hundred and fifty dollars that you
Speaker 1: got to go to get you to your car from
Speaker 1: the total. Like this ship is all a game they wanted.
Speaker 1: They have a strategic plan to figure out how to
Speaker 1: inconvence you and how to keep getting your money. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: so you know, I want to tell my story about
Speaker 1: what happened at Airbnb or with Airbnb and a particular
Speaker 1: company that I rented from and stayed in this particular property,
Speaker 1: this property management's space or whatever. But I think that
Speaker 1: more needs to be Like I actually want to dedicate
Speaker 1: ten minutes of my life because that's about all I
Speaker 1: have every week to focusing on customer service and how
Speaker 1: much of it we are losing and the problems that's
Speaker 1: happening with different companies. And I'm going to solicit friends
Speaker 1: and other people so that they can tell their stories
Speaker 1: as well, because I think we're being taking advantage of
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't like to be taking advantage
Speaker 1: of it. I don't mind spending money on a product
Speaker 1: that I love or a service that I love, because
Speaker 1: you know, I believe in luxury. I want I want
Speaker 1: everybody to live a luxurious of luxurious life, and I
Speaker 1: know I try to do everything. It may not be,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know whoever's life. It ain't Michelle
Speaker 1: Obama luxury, but it's Tamke Mallory's luxury the way I
Speaker 1: can create it for myself. And I want services. I
Speaker 1: want things to be clean, I want people to be kind,
Speaker 1: I want things to be done on time. I want
Speaker 1: there to be a phone number to call, or at
Speaker 1: least a quick response to things when you're having aallenges.
Speaker 1: I just and I don't think what I'm asking for
Speaker 1: is something that first of all, most people are not
Speaker 1: asking for as well or desiring. And I also don't
Speaker 1: think that it's something difficult. I think the problem is
Speaker 1: that we as a as a society are allowing this
Speaker 1: to happen because we want convenience and we're just frustrated
Speaker 1: by ourselves. But we actually could organize, you know, we
Speaker 1: could actually come together and organize so that people start
Speaker 1: knowing that they can't just do us any kind of way.
Speaker 1: So I plan to do a full thing. My experience
Speaker 1: with air being you do want it right, you want
Speaker 1: to discover right, absolutely, so it's time for us and
Speaker 1: and oh oh wait, well I gotta give my thought
Speaker 1: of the day on that. My thought of the day is,
Speaker 1: don't never underestimate a woman that has been frustrated it
Speaker 1: by something and then has a plan. Because I promise
Speaker 1: you that this intention that I plan to put into
Speaker 1: this particular part of my advocacy is going to move
Speaker 1: from point A to point B because I'm not going
Speaker 1: to stop, because I just am not going to allow
Speaker 1: people to rob me, people to you know, just step
Speaker 1: on on me and not just me. Let me say something,
Speaker 1: my son to me. Yeah, I can fight for myself.
Speaker 1: But I know there are people out here that are
Speaker 1: intimidated about writing the email or in the chat to
Speaker 1: try to get somebody to respond to them right. They
Speaker 1: don't feel like they're able to articulate the problem right
Speaker 1: the way that you and I may be able to do.
Speaker 1: There are people out here that are working and don't
Speaker 1: even have the time. They just need to get somebody
Speaker 1: on the phone to give them information about whatever they're
Speaker 1: looking for. There are people out here, elderly people, elderly
Speaker 1: people that are being abused and taken advantage of because
Speaker 1: they don't have the skills necessary to go and get
Speaker 1: online and fill out a thing and click a thing
Speaker 1: and wait for a thing and set up an appointment
Speaker 1: for a time to speak to so and so, and
Speaker 1: then you know have the type of situation like the
Speaker 1: one that I have with Airbnb. So you know, my
Speaker 1: thought of the day is how long will we allow
Speaker 1: this to happen and how far are we going to
Speaker 1: allow it to go before we say nah, these companies,
Speaker 1: If we're going to continue to invest in you. You
Speaker 1: have to make sure you have the necessary things in
Speaker 1: place to take care of the people that's keeping you
Speaker 1: in business. So that's my thought in the day. Well
Speaker 1: that's the thought and that's the word. So in some
Speaker 1: positive news, you know, I was I went to do
Speaker 1: a panel, a Black History panel in your church. Back
Speaker 1: to church Mount Vernon, didn't. I did a Black History
Speaker 1: Day panel with my brother used to salam And and
Speaker 1: William Wagstaff, excellent civil rights attorney out there and we
Speaker 1: did a beautiful, beautiful um conversation and uh it was.
Speaker 1: It was hosted or moderated by Priscilla Etchi, who's always
Speaker 1: doing a lot of positive things in the community. If
Speaker 1: you don't know who she is, you definitely need to
Speaker 1: tune in with her. The wonderful Mayor Sean Patterson was
Speaker 1: there and I love her to death. And I was honored.
Speaker 1: You know, they gave me, they gave me some citations,
Speaker 1: they gave me some proclamations, and I also got a
Speaker 1: national day February thirteen. Well it's my own day. It
Speaker 1: west Chester County February thirteenth. It's my song Lanning Day. Man.
Speaker 1: So I was really honored. Yes, I love it. Man.
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody you know who was there. You know, it's
Speaker 1: my first one, first day. I'm moving on up. Let
Speaker 1: me just say it has to be something prophetic about
Speaker 1: you getting an award, you being you, receiving a day,
Speaker 1: the National Day. I love it. I don't care. We're
Speaker 1: going with it. It's a national day Mount National Mount
Speaker 1: vernon Um, New York. That you receive. You got that
Speaker 1: at my church, and my church is a place that
Speaker 1: the spirit of the Lord is in that church. The
Speaker 1: work that has been done on me and so many
Speaker 1: lives across the Tristate area, and the work they do.
Speaker 1: It's a social justice ministry. So this church is not
Speaker 1: a church that is you know, just on Sundays. It's
Speaker 1: open seven days a week. They feed the community, they're
Speaker 1: marching in protests, they have panels, they have young people active,
Speaker 1: they have college scholarships. Our church is a five star church.
Speaker 1: My past doctor W. Franklin Richardson is my best friend
Speaker 1: in my heart. And for you to receive that type
Speaker 1: of honor there and I didn't even know you were
Speaker 1: going to be there. You told us afterwards like, oh
Speaker 1: I was at your church. That to me is it
Speaker 1: just means so much because I know that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have given that award to you in that building and
Speaker 1: and and doctor Howard um the mayor, They wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gave it to you if they didn't feel like and
Speaker 1: see the work you do and how hard you really
Speaker 1: really go at it every day for our people. So congratulations,
Speaker 1: Well thank you, thank you man, little old me man
Speaker 1: shout out to use off and and um and um
Speaker 1: William Wagstaff as well. Man. It was. It was a
Speaker 1: dope day. Ah, I same. All right, we got a
Speaker 1: good guest coming up. We're gonna go back and talk
Speaker 1: about some Florida issues and what's the struggle for our
Speaker 1: education supposed to look like. So friends again, we bring
Speaker 1: our friends always always right, you know they I bet
Speaker 1: you people Hey they talk about that like, oh they
Speaker 1: always have their friends on their Yeah. But that's what
Speaker 1: we're supposed to. But that's why we gotta show so
Speaker 1: we can interview and talk to the people that's our
Speaker 1: friends that we like. I don't want to interview talking
Speaker 1: people I don't like. You can do that in a difference.
Speaker 1: You don't mind that you get on your Instagram page
Speaker 1: and go live and get the fighting and carrying on
Speaker 1: and talking to people you don't like. I don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of time in my life available for people
Speaker 1: I don't like. I need to build with people. That's
Speaker 1: doing something in folks that you know, we can continue
Speaker 1: to express ideas. Don't have to be the same idea,
Speaker 1: but we certainly can can can can you know, spar
Speaker 1: with one another and positivity. I ain't. I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to argue with people all day on the internet. That's
Speaker 1: not my thing unless it's in a comment section. But
Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing. But this friend is not
Speaker 1: just a friend or any friend or the kinds of
Speaker 1: friends we talk about that you know, it's a wide
Speaker 1: group of or a large group of people who we
Speaker 1: consider to be our friends on street politicians. This is
Speaker 1: actually my friend, my brother, my friend, my dear friend,
Speaker 1: one of my best friends in the whole wide world.
Speaker 1: We've been on the battlefield and you know, spiritually connected
Speaker 1: for a long time, and you know, and I think,
Speaker 1: what is really really what makes me feel sort of
Speaker 1: like emotional about our friendship, our brotherhood and my relationship
Speaker 1: with him and his wife and his family is that
Speaker 1: they have watched me grow from where I started in
Speaker 1: the movement a while back when I started coming into
Speaker 1: my leadership to now, and I have also watched the
Speaker 1: growth of this family stepping into leadership in Florida, and
Speaker 1: so today I am so so, so, so so excited
Speaker 1: to have with us Bishop Rudolph McKissick. And Bishop McKissick
Speaker 1: is on the board of National Action Network, which is
Speaker 1: where I met him as a board member, and he
Speaker 1: also is the senior pastor of Bethel Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida,
Speaker 1: which I just learned in the last few days happens
Speaker 1: to be the oldest Black church in Florida. Like, this
Speaker 1: is history, historical stuff here, my good friend and brother.
Speaker 1: So Bishop mckissa I am stumbling over that because I'm
Speaker 1: just so used to calling him Rudy. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us on street politicians. Welcome, Welcome and welcome.
Speaker 1: What's up? Queen, what's up? King? Call me Rudy. Please
Speaker 1: don't be all this bishop stuff. Don't be doing that
Speaker 1: on here. You do yeah, you know, man, you know,
Speaker 1: she you know, you know, you know a real well
Speaker 1: why do y'all? You know, when your friends talk about you,
Speaker 1: they say things that is not actually being stated, But
Speaker 1: basically what they're trying to say is that I'm a
Speaker 1: little off. That's what they're saying, just a little so,
Speaker 1: Rudy Bishop, my brother. We always are in the middle
Speaker 1: of a fighter. It's always a battle happening, and it,
Speaker 1: you know, it hits us in different places. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've got our other brothers and sisters out here. You
Speaker 1: got Freddy Haynes, our brother out in Texas. You got
Speaker 1: Jamal Bryant, our brother who's in Atlanta now, was in Maryland.
Speaker 1: You know, We've got family in so many different places
Speaker 1: around the country. We were get in trouble for naming
Speaker 1: them all. But in all of these different spaces, we
Speaker 1: find ourselves having to come together to fight against the
Speaker 1: powers that be that are trying to oppress our communities,
Speaker 1: trying to in some way disrupt our peace and put
Speaker 1: us in the midst of struggle. And now we find
Speaker 1: ourselves in Florida having to deal with this attack on
Speaker 1: our education, a whitewashing of our history. They started out
Speaker 1: around critical race theory around this country and bought it
Speaker 1: all the way to the real thing they wanted to
Speaker 1: do was to make sure that in the high schools
Speaker 1: and some of the younger students would not learn about
Speaker 1: the history of our people. And you have been one
Speaker 1: that I saw you immediately Nope, can't have it, got
Speaker 1: to shut it down. You have been telling me for
Speaker 1: the last year or so that Governor the Santist is
Speaker 1: a major problem and that people needed to focus and
Speaker 1: now we are seeing just how bad it is. So
Speaker 1: tell us what exactly is going on in Florida and
Speaker 1: then what you all have done something last week? You
Speaker 1: guys had a big rally and what is the purpose
Speaker 1: of that, what's the goals? And you know, just give
Speaker 1: us an update as to what's happening. Yeah. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, man, I'm glad y'all's podcast is dope, like
Speaker 1: for real to me. I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: told you that before, but I check it out and
Speaker 1: it's really really dope. So I'm just glad to be
Speaker 1: on here, you know, chopping it up with y'all. So,
Speaker 1: you know, run the Santist is doing everything he can
Speaker 1: to run for president. So everything that he's doing has
Speaker 1: a bigger, bigger agenda to it, right, and what he's
Speaker 1: doing is real interesting, it's very strategic, and it's slick.
Speaker 1: For instance, you know, he came out with this whole
Speaker 1: thing against the AP course, and he tried to claim
Speaker 1: it was because it had things in there about gays
Speaker 1: that you know, that's his word. And watch how he
Speaker 1: got us all focus. So now he's got these black
Speaker 1: folks who are ultra conservative religious over here saying, well,
Speaker 1: you agree with him because you got the gays in there,
Speaker 1: and they're missing the forest for the trees. Because while
Speaker 1: we over here arguing that he's right on this issue,
Speaker 1: he's over here now telling public schools cover up all
Speaker 1: the books. I'm making a list of approved books. I'm
Speaker 1: sending a media specialist in to make sure the books
Speaker 1: follow my criteria. They took out while we over here
Speaker 1: focusing on, you know, what we don't like about gays,
Speaker 1: using his word. Again, we're missing what he's really doing
Speaker 1: over here, right, They took out a book on Rosa Parks.
Speaker 1: They took out a book on Hank Aaron. It took
Speaker 1: out a book on Roberto Clemente. So he's not you know,
Speaker 1: while we're focusing on this AP course and all of that,
Speaker 1: he's over here trying to change our history, trying to
Speaker 1: rewrite it. And he claims he doesn't want children to
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. And my thought is maybe they need to
Speaker 1: be uncomfortable, so you know, if they're uncomfortable, maybe it'll
Speaker 1: lead them to join us in the struggle. And maybe
Speaker 1: they need to be uncomfortable because their comfort is because
Speaker 1: of how our ancestors were uncomfortable for years. So you know,
Speaker 1: he's slicked with what he's doing and he's getting He's
Speaker 1: got us, believe it or not, divided because we're fighting
Speaker 1: over something that we shouldn't even be fighting over. First
Speaker 1: of all, you know, and as I said in the
Speaker 1: march on that Wednesday, look, ain't nobody elect you to
Speaker 1: be pastor, you're elected to be the governor. This ain't church,
Speaker 1: This is a state. So he's trying to use our
Speaker 1: state as his test lab to see how we respond.
Speaker 1: And I said it, you know the Don Limmon on CNN.
Speaker 1: We want the country to see that what they got
Speaker 1: on a micro level in Florida is what they'll get
Speaker 1: on a bigger level if he's allowed to run for
Speaker 1: president and become the president. He is, he's vengeful. The
Speaker 1: latest thing he did me tell y'all what he did
Speaker 1: when he got the pushback about the ap course of
Speaker 1: black history. He came out that Monday and said, well,
Speaker 1: I tell you what, We'll just cancel all the AP classes.
Speaker 1: We won't do anything with the college board. He always
Speaker 1: responds like a child, you know. And so he's trying
Speaker 1: to redact our history. And as I said that the
Speaker 1: mic that day that the talking point they're using is
Speaker 1: they're lying, they're dishonest because they say that we don't
Speaker 1: want black history, and I'm saying no, ain't nobody ever
Speaker 1: say that. What we said is we're just not gonna
Speaker 1: let you tell our story your way. Right, that's not
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. You don't get to tell our
Speaker 1: story your way. And even if we go with what
Speaker 1: he said, I looked it up, only eleven of the
Speaker 1: sixty seven counties in Florida are even enforcing black history,
Speaker 1: and ninety five percent of those eleven that teach it
Speaker 1: only it in February. So it's it's a you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot that he's doing. But he's doing it
Speaker 1: all to throw red meat to his base so that
Speaker 1: he can run for president. And I know that, and
Speaker 1: I say this every day, but there are so many
Speaker 1: of us who don't get it right, and they're grabbing
Speaker 1: to you know, the gas light and the talking those
Speaker 1: one things. What do you think that was going to
Speaker 1: be effective strategy? Because I have black men every day
Speaker 1: that come to me, Oh yeah, that's what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do this and that, And when you're having these
Speaker 1: conversations with them, they don't, like you said, they're not
Speaker 1: looking at the forest from the trees. So what do
Speaker 1: you think it's going to take for our strategies to
Speaker 1: properly inform and strategize and move our people in the
Speaker 1: right direction? Man? I think we've just got to keep
Speaker 1: talking it. We've got to keep reinforcing it until people here,
Speaker 1: and we've got to peep their strategy, I think, and
Speaker 1: dissect it, like, for instance, the whole piece about you know,
Speaker 1: the lbgd q i q i A community. So you
Speaker 1: got these conservative Christians Black who are so distracted by
Speaker 1: their theology over that that they're missing what this is
Speaker 1: really all about, and that is the disenfranchisement of black
Speaker 1: minorities lbgt q i A and the rewriting of our history.
Speaker 1: We've got to just keep dissecting what he's doing, see
Speaker 1: his game, and call it out to our people. I
Speaker 1: had I had a conservative black preacher come at me,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to say to me, well, man, how
Speaker 1: are you agreeing with that? You know, when he's trying
Speaker 1: to say that it had homosexuality. And I said to him,
Speaker 1: I said, my brother, let me listen to you everything
Speaker 1: he's done. And by the time I got done, he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I didn't look at it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. I think that's what we've got to keep doing.
Speaker 1: And then we got to hit them where it hurts. Man.
Speaker 1: I made a comment at the rally, if you don't
Speaker 1: want our story, you don't want our students. And I
Speaker 1: threw a hypothetical, and it's kind of catching with some people.
Speaker 1: What if every d one athlete win in the transfer
Speaker 1: a portal and decided they were going to go to
Speaker 1: a school that wants their story. You know, we gotta
Speaker 1: throw some things out there that will get their attention
Speaker 1: because at the end of and I know y'all know this,
Speaker 1: they don't care about us marching. They could care less
Speaker 1: because they know, at the end of the day, what
Speaker 1: we do is march. What we don't do is strategize.
Speaker 1: So even if a march had them say, all right,
Speaker 1: come to the table, what you want. Hell, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't know what to tell them because we get hyped.
Speaker 1: But we don't sit down and strategize with each other.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what we got to start doing.
Speaker 1: And some do some people, you know, because we make
Speaker 1: sure that when we are in the midst of protest
Speaker 1: movements that we do strategize on what is the larger goal? Right?
Speaker 1: But I get your point that it is not enough
Speaker 1: of it and it's not collective because what happens is
Speaker 1: that you'll have clergy doing what it is doing, which
Speaker 1: is important bringing out folks, trying to have inter faith,
Speaker 1: because that's one of the things great things about the
Speaker 1: rally was diverse. You had a lot of different types
Speaker 1: of people there, So you'll have clergy doing that. You'll
Speaker 1: have the activist community doing its own thing, which is
Speaker 1: also necessary. Then of course you have the education community
Speaker 1: and other elected officials, and we will be sort of splintered.
Speaker 1: And what strategy looks like it's having all of us
Speaker 1: working together and having a collective focus on like what
Speaker 1: are the ship points, how do we support one another,
Speaker 1: and then what is the ultimate end goal? And I
Speaker 1: think that this is because as you to your point,
Speaker 1: one let me say it is not just our history
Speaker 1: that they don't want us to learn. They don't want
Speaker 1: their history to be taught, right, because the history does
Speaker 1: not belong to just one side. In fact, you don't
Speaker 1: get from being kings and queens and having our own
Speaker 1: land and having our own religion, our own culture in
Speaker 1: on another continent to building America unless you tell their
Speaker 1: story too. You have to right that. He says he
Speaker 1: doesn't want kids to be uncomfortable. Well, I'm very uncomfortable
Speaker 1: knowing that my niece who's in high school is learning
Speaker 1: that Christopher Columbus was some type of you know, genius
Speaker 1: and then he was some type of hero. I'm uncomfort
Speaker 1: people with that. And we know that Christopher Columbus was
Speaker 1: actively engaged in enslaving Yes Africans, right, So it's uncomfortable
Speaker 1: all around. If you want to make some changes, let's
Speaker 1: look at the whole history. How can you teach about
Speaker 1: your queen, Queen Elizabeth and her and not tell the
Speaker 1: story of her lineage, But then you don't want to
Speaker 1: teach about our queen Rosa parks like, come on, let's
Speaker 1: let's be serious here, And that's to your point. We
Speaker 1: got to talk straight and make sure we break it
Speaker 1: down for our people. But to circle back to the
Speaker 1: lgbt QIA position, First of all, I support I know
Speaker 1: you do. We support the lgbt lgbt qi A community,
Speaker 1: and I don't believe that we as black folks can
Speaker 1: participate in trying to hold anybody back or block any
Speaker 1: other community with all that we've been through. I say
Speaker 1: that all the time. However, when you look at the curriculum,
Speaker 1: the curriculum was this wide, and there's this particular piece
Speaker 1: that is specifically in the area about the current state
Speaker 1: of the movement because you gotta read look at the
Speaker 1: how the history builds up. They don't have the part
Speaker 1: about the lgbt qi A community. Even in the earlier
Speaker 1: civil rights movement, where if you want to talk about
Speaker 1: James Bollwing and and all those then at that time
Speaker 1: who were actually a part of that community, you could
Speaker 1: start the story there. They didn't. It is in this
Speaker 1: particular time, this context of what's happened in the movement today.
Speaker 1: You're not telling the true story in the movement if
Speaker 1: you don't include that, because that's a real thing, right,
Speaker 1: we can't do the race, you know what, I'm saying
Speaker 1: to the story of how this whole thing is progressed.
Speaker 1: So we gotta be smarter than to be in our
Speaker 1: emotion about how we feel personally about people and issues
Speaker 1: and whatever. And we have to look at in fact,
Speaker 1: the people who created the curriculum would have been doing
Speaker 1: a disservice not to include pieces of it that exists
Speaker 1: within the struggle of today. That's like talking about the family,
Speaker 1: and because you don't like somebody, you don't say they
Speaker 1: live in the house. You tell the story of the family,
Speaker 1: and now you just leave the one person out. That's
Speaker 1: just not it's not real just because you don't like
Speaker 1: it to agree with it, but none of us might
Speaker 1: like it, but we can't say that the person don't
Speaker 1: lived it. That's just the reality of the situation. That's
Speaker 1: that's what history is, is telling the true story of
Speaker 1: what's going on. Yeah, and for me, you know, we
Speaker 1: gotta stop trying to wrap our activism in our theology.
Speaker 1: Here's what I mean by that. You know, so you've
Speaker 1: got a theological position over here that is anti inclusion, right,
Speaker 1: but this ain't about that. And if this is going
Speaker 1: to be about activism, and if this is going to
Speaker 1: be about personhood and being. That can't be your starting point.
Speaker 1: And that's my argument even to some preachers, that can't
Speaker 1: be your star point. We're not arguing about them about
Speaker 1: people coming to your church. We're arguing about people having
Speaker 1: their right as citizen. And you know, we gotta learn
Speaker 1: how to separate that. And until we do, we're going
Speaker 1: to forever allow something that shouldn't even be on the
Speaker 1: table to be on the menu. That's right devisive, But
Speaker 1: you know, to make the other reasons. Okay, here's the
Speaker 1: real elephant in the room, mysa, And here's the real
Speaker 1: deal why we can't come together because negroes always want
Speaker 1: to get the credit. So the preachers don't get together
Speaker 1: with the activists because we're worrying about credit, or were
Speaker 1: worrying about who church they don't go to, or are
Speaker 1: they with the nation? Are they even a believer at all?
Speaker 1: We you know, we're putting stuff in the mix that's
Speaker 1: keeping us from getting together, and we worrying about whose
Speaker 1: name gonna be on it, you know, especially pre whose
Speaker 1: name's gonna be on it. You know, who's gonna get
Speaker 1: the crack. And we can't come together for our people
Speaker 1: because we are more selfish than we are selfless. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's just keep it real. I mean, let's just keep
Speaker 1: it one hunted, Tamika, You and I know this. Yeah, period,
Speaker 1: It's really unfortunate that they keep using the same playbook
Speaker 1: and we keep falling for it every time. And the
Speaker 1: thing is, we're so powerful united. I watch so many
Speaker 1: different like I'm a fan of just leadership. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of power, you know what I'm saying. I see
Speaker 1: a bunch of men and women, powerful people that I
Speaker 1: just always be like, why they why we can't always
Speaker 1: be together? Why can't we all move as one? You know?
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that's that's keeping us separated. And
Speaker 1: they don't know that. And in every other culture seems
Speaker 1: to find a way to have their powerful leadership and
Speaker 1: the people who have the resources come together for one
Speaker 1: they seem to figure out how to do it. And
Speaker 1: I just it blows my mind that as Blacks, we
Speaker 1: have not been able to do that. It just really
Speaker 1: blows my mind. Well. Yeah, so, while you know, because
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I agree one hundred percent, but
Speaker 1: I need to push back for this purpose. We do
Speaker 1: know when to come together, right or we know how
Speaker 1: for things that matter to us, right, and even if
Speaker 1: you think about the way we use our voting power,
Speaker 1: right because without the black vote, both male and female,
Speaker 1: both women and man, because they can say what they
Speaker 1: want that black men don't show up. Black men are
Speaker 1: number two behind black women in most elections, particularly things
Speaker 1: that impact us on a federal level. Right, we got
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do locally because locally, it's
Speaker 1: a disaster everywhere. And that's not just black men and
Speaker 1: women are just black men, is black women too, because
Speaker 1: we our turnout rate in local races is down to
Speaker 1: so low. People don't even have to campaign to be
Speaker 1: able to get elected. They just show up once or
Speaker 1: two times here it is, and the numbers are going
Speaker 1: to be so small they could really literally win by
Speaker 1: two or three people. And so that is that's a disaster.
Speaker 1: We have to do way better there because on a
Speaker 1: local level, a lot of this stuff is where it begins. Right.
Speaker 1: Governor DeSantis is a local elected official, whether you want
Speaker 1: to believe it or not, because he's in Florida and
Speaker 1: he probably I don't know his history, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: he went through steps he was he must have been
Speaker 1: something before he became governor. He just run for governor
Speaker 1: and become governor. So there's a history, and there are
Speaker 1: other people in the pipeline that will help him to
Speaker 1: lay out and carry out his mission because he's got
Speaker 1: council members and he's got other you know, elected offices
Speaker 1: and people in positions of power who are helping to
Speaker 1: push his agenda. So locally we gotta do much better.
Speaker 1: But we do show up and we know how to vote.
Speaker 1: What we have a problem with is what you are saying,
Speaker 1: my son, and also Rudy, is this idea of what
Speaker 1: you do after you voted. That's where we gotta get
Speaker 1: We gotta come together on that point because depending on
Speaker 1: who the elected official favors, we will either check out
Speaker 1: or we start fighting with the person. Oh so and
Speaker 1: so went to the White House, or so and so
Speaker 1: got invited to this, and they was in the meeting,
Speaker 1: and my son's talking to the mayor and this and that.
Speaker 1: Then it ain't nothing. They in the system instead of
Speaker 1: us coming up with strategy for some of us are
Speaker 1: getting invited to some places. So we got to go
Speaker 1: in there with the right talking points. If we don't,
Speaker 1: then you challenge us. Then there are people on the
Speaker 1: outside pushing as well. And I think that is what
Speaker 1: we have to focus on more. We know how to move,
Speaker 1: but we don't know how to maintain and sustain. I
Speaker 1: think that's in Florida that's going to be critical, you know,
Speaker 1: and and a and a big What we've learned, and
Speaker 1: I have to tell you Rudy, because you've been doing
Speaker 1: this stuff for a long time, but what we've learned
Speaker 1: is that the relationship building, the community building, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: almost more important than fighting the target right right, Because
Speaker 1: when you think about the Brianna Taylor movement, and my
Speaker 1: son can attest to this. Yes, we had our you know,
Speaker 1: strategy for Daniel Cameron, and we had our struggle with
Speaker 1: the city and the police department and all of that,
Speaker 1: but if we did not invest the type of time
Speaker 1: that we put into building with that community, we could
Speaker 1: have done any of the Yeah. Yeah, that's where we
Speaker 1: where we lack is in relationships building community you know.
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things I said the
Speaker 1: rev after we finished the march and we went to
Speaker 1: chill and I sat next thing, I said, Okay, what's next,
Speaker 1: like because we we we gotta, we gotta, we gotta
Speaker 1: come up what our next thing is to move towards
Speaker 1: our goal. This can't just be the march and we
Speaker 1: in the media because the way the media works now,
Speaker 1: in twenty four hours, they on to the next episode.
Speaker 1: In the words of you know of it's gotta be
Speaker 1: more than just a news cycle. Well, because because you
Speaker 1: gotta march and the shooting at Michigan State and another
Speaker 1: shooting that happened after that, you think so much. Even
Speaker 1: the media, you know why, we have to hold them accountable.
Speaker 1: Even they can't keep up. They an't gotta have hours
Speaker 1: in the day to talk about all the stuff that's
Speaker 1: happening across this country, not to mention our foreign uh,
Speaker 1: the things that's happening from a foreign perspective. Right, it's great,
Speaker 1: like we people are not even focused on the fight
Speaker 1: that's happening all across the world that's impacting us here.
Speaker 1: Inflation is not just because we're trying to recover from COVID.
Speaker 1: We are also fighting wars and in battles and in
Speaker 1: situations that's causing goods to rise, causing travel to rise,
Speaker 1: oil to rise. This is some serious shit. So sorry,
Speaker 1: it's some serious stuff, you know. Anyway, I know I'm
Speaker 1: running my mouth. But I just I just feel like
Speaker 1: we better have, we better be, we better be. And
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about we as in mister Johnny who
Speaker 1: lives in Jacksonville on a on a nice street somewhere,
Speaker 1: because that's too much for him to bear to have
Speaker 1: to think about all these things. We talk about leaders,
Speaker 1: people who have the wherewithal, that have engagement and access.
Speaker 1: We gotta think bigger than Oh, it is a part
Speaker 1: of the curriculum that has something about lgbt QIA. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's little for us. The focus, Dame, right, and
Speaker 1: it's got to be multiple strategies, you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: there's some people who get to the table. Somebody asked
Speaker 1: me today, you know, we know the governor heard the
Speaker 1: comments yesterday. Would you meet with him? And I say, hell, yes,
Speaker 1: I will go sit right in his face and talk
Speaker 1: to him. We gotta be smart, you know, and we've
Speaker 1: got to We've got to realize it's gonna take multiple weapons.
Speaker 1: If I could use that term, you know, multiple methodologies.
Speaker 1: Let me use that word, multiple methodologies for us to
Speaker 1: affect change that we're trying to affect. And it's got
Speaker 1: to start. Let me tell you, it's got to start
Speaker 1: in Florida because there are other governors who are watching
Speaker 1: what's happening in Florida, ready to replicate in their state
Speaker 1: what he passes here. So if we don't stop it,
Speaker 1: and if and if we don't develop a blueprint so
Speaker 1: that leaders in these other states we can say, yo,
Speaker 1: this is what we did try to affect this change.
Speaker 1: We gotta think bigger than Florida. You know, you got
Speaker 1: to think bigger um than just as you said, the
Speaker 1: black community, because he's he's after any and everybody that's
Speaker 1: a minority, any and everybody that's not on his side.
Speaker 1: And we got to come together, even beyond Florida. We
Speaker 1: need all of y'all. You know, I may need until
Speaker 1: freedom to come down here and rock the mic, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, until we get their attention. We've
Speaker 1: got to get their attention. And I I don't believe
Speaker 1: a march gets their attention absolutely because they know that
Speaker 1: it does. You think, so attention It just doesn't, like
Speaker 1: you said it, when you gather hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: people anywhere for one cause, people got to pay attention. Now,
Speaker 1: it's what you do with that attention, right, It's how
Speaker 1: you sustain that attention. What you do after the attention
Speaker 1: is the people that you have and and the you know,
Speaker 1: the demands that you have with that attention that it brings.
Speaker 1: It's like watching you guys, the rally you have. It
Speaker 1: got our attention listening to you, so there's no way
Speaker 1: listening to our passion and how thoughtful and how how
Speaker 1: sharp you were what you were saying that like they said,
Speaker 1: the government sold what you said. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Now they want you. They're asking you do you want
Speaker 1: to sit down with them? It's because you got his attention.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So when you sit down,
Speaker 1: you know what you you know exactly what it is
Speaker 1: that you want, you know what you don't want, you
Speaker 1: know how to go about it, and you're willing to
Speaker 1: move and continue to put the pressure on. So I
Speaker 1: think I understand what you're saying, but I definitely think
Speaker 1: that it gone as attention. It just got to you
Speaker 1: just have to utilize that attention problem you do and listen.
Speaker 1: Five people, my son said, hundreds of thousands yesterday, you
Speaker 1: guys had over a thousand. Five people can make a
Speaker 1: difference by coming together because unity at any level causes
Speaker 1: people to notice, to pay attention, and to have to listen.
Speaker 1: To the point is how you push that forward. It's
Speaker 1: going to be what makes them stay into So right
Speaker 1: now they're looking to see was it a march and
Speaker 1: it's over, this is what you say, or is it
Speaker 1: going to be other steps and other things happen, and
Speaker 1: that keeps this movement alive. And that's what we have
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, Until Freedom just announced our six
Speaker 1: week course on African American studies, and you know we're
Speaker 1: focusing on teaching with instructors. I'm not teaching, I'm actually learning.
Speaker 1: We're focusing on learning from early before enslavement to the
Speaker 1: Transatlantic slave trade through the reparations movement and looking at
Speaker 1: when that actually started because it wasn't just recent history.
Speaker 1: Reparations is something that started the conversations about it while
Speaker 1: enslavement was actually happening, because as our brother, Attorney Angelo
Speaker 1: Pinto says, it's about repairing the harm. So there's always
Speaker 1: been a conversation on that. And then we are into
Speaker 1: we're going to be into in late March talking about
Speaker 1: the US Constitution and how it into sex. You know,
Speaker 1: us as African Americans, where we see ourselves within the
Speaker 1: Constitution and then finally the movement that has happening today.
Speaker 1: So that's another part of our resistance struggle. It's educating
Speaker 1: ourselves and making sure that if they try to ban it,
Speaker 1: we still have it available somewhere to teach it and
Speaker 1: to learn it. But there still has to be boots
Speaker 1: on the ground. So I appreciate what you all did yesterday.
Speaker 1: I do not want you because you're like me. We
Speaker 1: have this thing where even though we did one thing,
Speaker 1: it's not enough. We need to do ten fifteen. You
Speaker 1: want to do it strong, and that's just the way
Speaker 1: we are. But you have to sit back and realize
Speaker 1: prior to you all deciding to do something, nothing was happening.
Speaker 1: That's acts Yeah, that's the clergy community was talking about it.
Speaker 1: Knew something needed to happen, but you all were bold
Speaker 1: enough to call it and people came. Yeah, no, they
Speaker 1: came in love. I mean it blew my mic Man.
Speaker 1: Clergy came from as far as Miami, South Carolina. You know,
Speaker 1: they really came together. And as you said earlier, it
Speaker 1: was so diverse. You know, Black white students UM the
Speaker 1: lbgt Q I a community. I mean you name it
Speaker 1: it was. It was a representation of the very thing
Speaker 1: the Santists is against inclusion and diversity. You know, it's
Speaker 1: really weird because I said it at the rally. He
Speaker 1: ain't a Native American, which means the very fact he
Speaker 1: is the governor is because diversity worked, right, So how
Speaker 1: you gonna cut out the very thing that helped you
Speaker 1: become the governor? But but that's what But you know,
Speaker 1: that's what white folks do. They use the rules for
Speaker 1: themselves and then try to flip the script when we
Speaker 1: learned the game. Well, that's a whole lot of game
Speaker 1: right there. That's a whole lot of game. Bro. Yes, sir, well,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you for joining us. We want to do
Speaker 1: this regularly as we are into this fight. To keep
Speaker 1: people abreast of what's going on. We need to be
Speaker 1: on one another's lives, be in communication, because that's what
Speaker 1: most people. It's not that they don't want change, it's
Speaker 1: not that they're not trying to fight. Instead, it takes
Speaker 1: a lot of work. It's hard, and it keeps you
Speaker 1: up every day every night. You gotta stay committed, You
Speaker 1: got to be invested, and once you start something, you
Speaker 1: can't just drop it in the middle. You gotta see
Speaker 1: that thing all the way through. And that's that is
Speaker 1: what really becomes the biggest struggle that most people have
Speaker 1: is that they don't know which way to turn. But
Speaker 1: we always say, just keep moving. So that's what we
Speaker 1: have to do, is just keep moving. What's happening in
Speaker 1: Florida is happening across this country, y'all. We cannot sit by.
Speaker 1: We cannot sit by. If they are allowed to teach
Speaker 1: their history, then we need to be allowed to ensure
Speaker 1: that ours is being taught as well. You cannot say, well,
Speaker 1: we don't need them to teach our They have access
Speaker 1: to our children all day long, right, and what they
Speaker 1: put into their minds and hearts, what they and to
Speaker 1: their own children all day long. It does matter. And
Speaker 1: yes we should teach our own, but we should also
Speaker 1: force them to have to tell the stories and confront
Speaker 1: the true history theirs and hours as well. So thank you,
Speaker 1: Bishop Nan kisses my shne. I gotta come so we can.
Speaker 1: We're gonna lead to mek a home, and I gotta
Speaker 1: come to New York so we can hang out. Listen, man, look,
Speaker 1: you ain't said them, but the word we're gonna leave
Speaker 1: our home home for me needs my bed. So I'm
Speaker 1: all good. Wa love you man, love you peace. Rudy
Speaker 1: dropping them jewels. Man, he's really he really he takes
Speaker 1: seriously like when he's doing something. So he's like, we
Speaker 1: gotta be united, we gotta just one march. Ain't nothing.
Speaker 1: But we have to always remind ourselves to stop and
Speaker 1: acknowledge what we're able to accomplish, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's the thing, especially in this work.
Speaker 1: You know, um, you you you feel like you're taking
Speaker 1: two steps forwards and five steps backwards. Man. You save
Speaker 1: a life and you lose two. You get some rights,
Speaker 1: they take three four from you. So it always feels
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I guess those of us
Speaker 1: who've been called to do this work, man, that's that's
Speaker 1: just the cross we got to bed man. So shout
Speaker 1: out to Rudy, Shout out to everybody who crazy enough
Speaker 1: coalition of people that got together, um in Florida last week,
Speaker 1: but more more to come. Yep, definitely man. So, Um
Speaker 1: that brings me a little off topic. It's always a
Speaker 1: little always a little topic. But um, so you know
Speaker 1: it's been on the news this fan lady whoever she was,
Speaker 1: she reached and grabbed Busta Rhyme's butt, and he responded
Speaker 1: by throwing water on them. And you know, and there
Speaker 1: were people who was acting like he did something wrong.
Speaker 1: I've seen somebody saying, oh, he shouldn't have did this,
Speaker 1: and he should have did that, And he could have
Speaker 1: done anything right. He could have been, he could have
Speaker 1: could have been, he could have he could have been kind,
Speaker 1: He could have threw the water bottle at the lady right.
Speaker 1: He could have had a security or somebody grabbed her
Speaker 1: physically done something, because that's assault. If if if a
Speaker 1: woman was walking by and a man reached in and
Speaker 1: grabbed her ass, he would get the beat down of
Speaker 1: all beat down. The security would be listen. I mean
Speaker 1: if if it was if a celebrity woman was walking
Speaker 1: by in a fan and she had her people's alongside her,
Speaker 1: her security and her friends, and and he grabbed her butt,
Speaker 1: the possibility of him not getting physically assaulted in harm
Speaker 1: is very small. If I'm walking with a female, a
Speaker 1: woman that I don't even If I'm walking next to
Speaker 1: a woman and the nigga grabbed her butt, the possibility
Speaker 1: that he ain't getting his ass. Whoops, it's probably zero, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't understand why. I just I don't get
Speaker 1: why people were mad at him just throwing water, right.
Speaker 1: He could have pressed charges, he could have done anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The response I saw from
Speaker 1: her was that she just wanted to take a picture,
Speaker 1: but you can't grab Nobody asked to take a pack,
Speaker 1: because the question is would you trying to take a
Speaker 1: picture with his ass like a picture would be like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I take a picture? Buster not reaching in, it's
Speaker 1: grabbing his button, smiling like you think you did something good.
Speaker 1: You know, and Buster, we know him. Buster is not
Speaker 1: trying to have a fight or nothing with nobody. He
Speaker 1: ain't trying. He's focused and serious about what he's trying
Speaker 1: to do. He might not be chitty chatty and playful
Speaker 1: or whatever, but at the same time, this is not
Speaker 1: somebody that's out here trying to fight women. That's not
Speaker 1: a thing. So let's not even start that because you
Speaker 1: know they'll be like, oh and man, you know they
Speaker 1: don't pull up something to happen. Ten years are gonna
Speaker 1: be like seed, this is the kind of thing that
Speaker 1: is not in the situation here. You cannot be touching
Speaker 1: people on their person. I don't even understand why we
Speaker 1: It's so much touching and people getting close to you
Speaker 1: and bumping you and talking in your face and this
Speaker 1: and that. People feel like they're supposed to be able
Speaker 1: to touch you. I deal with it all the time,
Speaker 1: Like people walk up to me and they'd be in
Speaker 1: my personal space. Dude walked up to me the other
Speaker 1: day and asked me, did Jada kiss insta his DMS.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you gotta ask Jada kiss. I don't like,
Speaker 1: I'm not in Jada. He was in my face. He
Speaker 1: was He had a couple of drinks, you know what,
Speaker 1: so you could tell he was a little drunk and
Speaker 1: he was mad. You know what I'm saying, And you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm good at that because I understand. I come from,
Speaker 1: you know, the streets, so I know how to dis
Speaker 1: on those situations and not engageing and turn them into more.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: the thing, are inclines that you inclined to do something
Speaker 1: for them, or you inclined they inclined to be in
Speaker 1: in personal space, and you inclined to do certain things
Speaker 1: to them. I was out a few nights ago in
Speaker 1: a loud place, loud, and this beautiful woman came over
Speaker 1: to me and started showing me pictures of her loved ones.
Speaker 1: Two sons are two twins, that was shot and something happened.
Speaker 1: And to your point, I'm like the man that wants
Speaker 1: to know about Jada kiss DMS. I didn't had a
Speaker 1: few drinks. I've been hanging out. I'm with my friends,
Speaker 1: everybody's having a good time. And this beautiful lady, because
Speaker 1: she was beautiful, she was a beautiful woman, and she
Speaker 1: was sweet, and she said she loved me and said
Speaker 1: such positive things to me. However, she wanted, at two
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning on a night that I'm hanging out,
Speaker 1: to tell me a full story about what happened with
Speaker 1: the kids. The phone number can she called, the sister,
Speaker 1: yelling over the music and trying to explain to me. Now,
Speaker 1: I've been in those situations several times, because people when
Speaker 1: they see you and they need to try to explain
Speaker 1: to you what's going on, they don't know if you
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a chance to talk to you again.
Speaker 1: So I get it. I'm used to it. I deal
Speaker 1: with it all the time. But the part that really
Speaker 1: that I was trying to understand and express to her
Speaker 1: without being rude, is that she's talking to me directly
Speaker 1: in my face to where I can her air. It's coming,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to turn my head and telling her
Speaker 1: talking my ear so we're not passing germs back and forth,
Speaker 1: and she's and then when I turn up, she's coming
Speaker 1: over here, and I'm like, people are not even conscious.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we don't even have a personal space way
Speaker 1: of like protecting ourselves and like not being in people's
Speaker 1: personal spaces. It ain't no more to people don't feel
Speaker 1: now those days it's gone. Your personal is no more
Speaker 1: personal space. People think that, especially if you are known,
Speaker 1: you have some level of notoriety. People feel as if
Speaker 1: he's supposed to just be able to engage you, and
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be happy you. You're supposed to have
Speaker 1: full conversations with him, and you're supposed to touch you
Speaker 1: and hug you and all types of stuff. And sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm about to die because I'm holding my breath the
Speaker 1: whole time, signing up so that I don't breathe any
Speaker 1: of it in, and that to try to hold my
Speaker 1: breath like I'm gonna die, you know, So you know
Speaker 1: it's funny about this. You actually do shit like that
Speaker 1: that you joke it and you just say that, boy Joe,
Speaker 1: what you know she hold up if you got to
Speaker 1: see her, if somebody you gotta see it. I actually
Speaker 1: have a pole this week. I have a cold, so
Speaker 1: I don't want to even you. Yeah, when the air
Speaker 1: is moving across my face. Bro, bro, nah, we can't
Speaker 1: do it anyway to me. I don't want you in
Speaker 1: a space. She don't want to breathe your air. She
Speaker 1: gonna hold up breath. Please give people some personal space, man,
Speaker 1: busted man, we know, we know you're heart man. You
Speaker 1: got a couple of drops of water. Man, you know
Speaker 1: she she'll learned next she learned it a backup off.
Speaker 1: People don't be touching no man's buttocks, especially no Jamaican man.
Speaker 1: You can't touch no Jamaican man's buttocks. So do you
Speaker 1: know for sure that she touched his button? That's what
Speaker 1: he said. They said, he tested what like you want
Speaker 1: you if you you had to see it, because when
Speaker 1: you look, you can see to there was nowhere else
Speaker 1: she could have touched. She reached down and butt and
Speaker 1: he turned around start because it's not like somebody touches
Speaker 1: back or anything. If he would have felt somebody touches back,
Speaker 1: he felt, you can't do that. You can't do it, period,
Speaker 1: And the water was a reaction just like I bet
Speaker 1: you it was a reaction. Don't touch your man's buttocks. Boundaries,
Speaker 1: boundaries leave demand, Buttoclon, you don't touch demand buttocks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to my old shout out to Boom Boom.
Speaker 1: Saved the brand. You know what I'm saying, Man, Oh
Speaker 1: the young people that that's Bronx logo. Son, we has
Speaker 1: the Bronx logo. You know what I'm saying. We got
Speaker 1: saved the brand and Bronx logo. Man. Finally, finally, hip Hop,
Speaker 1: save your truck over there in the Bronx man through
Speaker 1: the Bronx Man. Keep doing what you do man. So,
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