Speaker 1: Hey everyone, I'm Devin Simone and I'm Tory Deal and
Speaker 1: this is mtp's official challenge podcast. Girl. This was an
Speaker 1: episode that's a lot ev if. So what is with
Speaker 1: you guys this season with like multiple personalities? Because I
Speaker 1: feel like we will see one side of someone and
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, okay, that's.
Speaker 2: Cool, and then another episode.
Speaker 1: I mean we saw it with John Ay, we saw
Speaker 1: it with Chaosity, we are seeing it. We even kind
Speaker 1: of saw it with Bananas when he went from like
Speaker 1: usual confident Bananas to his godfather's speech of woe is Me?
Speaker 1: Like this is just and this week with Dusty the
Speaker 1: Teddy Bear.
Speaker 3: And then with Wes as well, you get both of
Speaker 3: them happy moments.
Speaker 1: Yes, although I'm still not sure if Wes's woe is
Speaker 1: Me wasn't more political than not? Okay, because not that
Speaker 1: Wes isn't like heartfelt, we don't get to see that side.
Speaker 1: It's it's there, But like remember Wes's like best asset
Speaker 1: is that Wes is a like a top tier mind
Speaker 1: upon mind upon mind.
Speaker 3: Can I say something that makes me feel like it
Speaker 3: was authentic?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: So you know we all have one ten minute phone
Speaker 3: call sometimes twice a week. Yep, every time before his
Speaker 3: phone call he would be a ball of anxiety because
Speaker 3: he would just be worried that he was going to
Speaker 3: get bad news about the pregnancy or something. So I
Speaker 3: think it was just truly a time of like like, really,
Speaker 3: my wife, I can't even talk to my wife that
Speaker 3: much and she has a baby growing inside her, like yeah,
Speaker 3: so I do think.
Speaker 2: But I did about that part not being genuine.
Speaker 1: I meant more of the woe is me around going
Speaker 1: into elimination like that part I believed was real, like
Speaker 1: obviously he adores his wife, and yeah, being a new
Speaker 1: dad like that I felt was very genuine. I meant
Speaker 1: just the part of like make it a girl, because
Speaker 1: we've seen him all seasons sort of say now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be the funny person. Now I'm gonna be this person,
Speaker 1: like kind of strategized to stay out of the elimination.
Speaker 1: So I want to say, not the new dad part
Speaker 1: that I think was one thousand percent like yeah, real
Speaker 1: and raw, right, but just his I mean, even Dusty
Speaker 1: was surprised by how many girls got voted in Yeah,
Speaker 1: possibly thanks to Wes's politicking, right, and being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: were you surprised?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Of course I thought it was gonna be straight Dusty
Speaker 3: all day. Yeah, I knew obviously Wes was gonna vote
Speaker 3: for a girl. I knew Dusty was going to vote
Speaker 3: for a girl. And then it was like, you know
Speaker 3: what really surprised me Michelle voting for Dusty because not
Speaker 3: that she owed anything to Dusty, but Michelle and West
Speaker 3: got so close.
Speaker 4: This season in terms of working together.
Speaker 3: So I think that when Wes watches this back, he's
Speaker 3: gonna be like, wow, Michelle was playing all the sides. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, I don't actually know, but
Speaker 3: it's gonna be interesting to like eventually talk to Michelle
Speaker 3: and watch out she's moving through this game because obviously
Speaker 3: she's survivor strong, but she really did ride the middle
Speaker 3: with the vets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we never we never targeted Michelle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very smart in this game, and she's keeping
Speaker 1: her like cards close to her chest, which is really impressive.
Speaker 1: There was so much going on in this game. So
Speaker 1: we started with this week's challenge, hi Q Trivia.
Speaker 2: I love trivia. It's always my personal favor. Altho, you
Speaker 2: guys got some hard questions.
Speaker 1: Admittedly, like you guys and Chris knowing with a double
Speaker 1: deck of caon whatever.
Speaker 2: That yes, Like, what how did I don't you know that?
Speaker 4: I don't know if I said the right shape right there?
Speaker 1: Girl, it sound right, I don't even know, like it
Speaker 1: just makes and he said that suspended from the air,
Speaker 1: that that man must be a genius. Blue team winning
Speaker 1: with an incredible strategy. You guys were like amazing and
Speaker 1: how you did that? Standout performance though from Melissa s
Speaker 1: and the Green team and Tiffany on the Red team,
Speaker 1: And shout out to Tiffany because when she was the
Speaker 1: last one up there and she's like stuck to the
Speaker 1: glass and you could see they cut to a clip
Speaker 1: and she basically is like even kissing the glass, like
Speaker 1: she's even using her lips literally has like a suction,
Speaker 1: and then she makes a quick comment where she's like
Speaker 1: oh hell, and then she falls like she.
Speaker 2: Pulls her lips off the glass and then.
Speaker 1: She falls, and it was just so funny, like the
Speaker 1: timing of that, but propositivity for doing an amazing job.
Speaker 4: And I think that this is one of the beautiful moments.
Speaker 3: And when you see a challenge team standing up next
Speaker 3: to each other and you look for the strongest, biggest competitor, right, Like,
Speaker 3: you look at the Blue team, you think, oh, FESSI like,
Speaker 3: but you never know when the challenge is gonna benefit
Speaker 3: somebody smalls anyone's game.
Speaker 4: It's anyone's game, which is why we got to see
Speaker 4: it with Alyssa. We got to see it with tiff
Speaker 4: as well, and I think.
Speaker 3: That that, you know, it was good nice to see
Speaker 3: for them and for their own personal moraleity challengers.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's why we have trivia every sea.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, what, that's the only individual daily
Speaker 1: I've ever won as an individual, because y'all know I'm
Speaker 1: not winning another individual So I love trivia. Then we
Speaker 1: have voting where it's Wes and Tiffany going in. We
Speaker 1: get to see you and Bananas, which I think was
Speaker 1: pretty smart sort of say from the jump, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we are not going to be able to sway anyway, right,
Speaker 1: you like on the Blue team because you're like, we
Speaker 1: don't have the numbers, so you're like, we're just gonna
Speaker 1: look like we're playing along. So Wes and Tiffany get
Speaker 1: voted in the hopper, selects Dusty with because he had
Speaker 1: seven balls in the hopper. Everybody was turning on Dusty
Speaker 1: and we got to see a little bit of the
Speaker 1: dust devil now. I mean he went in on Tiffany,
Speaker 1: and Tiffany handled it well, just you know, blaming her,
Speaker 1: saying you be Tray. I mean he really How did
Speaker 1: you feel in the house when you saw that?
Speaker 3: I mean I tried to stay away from it because
Speaker 3: you know, I don't It's like when you watch when
Speaker 3: you watch things catch on fire, you.
Speaker 4: Don't want to be a part of the fire in
Speaker 4: any way. You don't want somehow the association.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was like, you know what, let me
Speaker 3: just but you could hear it. And I think that
Speaker 3: I think tiff did handle herself really well. I think
Speaker 3: she I think it's hard, it's a really tough environment.
Speaker 3: I think we had already seen glimpses of Dusty where
Speaker 3: sometimes like the competition would get to.
Speaker 4: Him and he'd be like wow, like screaming really loud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think some people, you know, around that
Speaker 3: it took a while for people to get used to Dusty.
Speaker 3: But I think at this point in time, obviously tiff
Speaker 3: we kind of knew he had those moments, and I
Speaker 3: think she she that's why she was able to handle
Speaker 3: handle it really well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and especially to be accused of something
Speaker 1: you didn't do right, Like, I think that's the part
Speaker 1: that's like tough, when someone's coming at you in front
Speaker 1: of everyone. Also, Michayla was hilarious. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys caught it, but go back and rewind. When
Speaker 1: Mikayla runs up the stairs, it's like, hey, y'all, there's
Speaker 1: some tea, and everybody gets up from the table and
Speaker 1: runs downstairs.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: Mikayla is just just so so funny. She is, man,
Speaker 2: she really is.
Speaker 3: The way she would just hobble in a room like
Speaker 3: she's full full blown character.
Speaker 1: She's also the way she knew hings by the way
Speaker 1: the hingstrem question and she's like, I know because the
Speaker 1: app has not been deleted. Shout out to Mikayla for that.
Speaker 1: So much stuff is so funny. And so then we
Speaker 1: see the elimination come down, right, and it's Wes versus Dusty,
Speaker 1: which is what you know. Wes was hoping wouldn't happen,
Speaker 1: but it did. Going into that, who did you think
Speaker 1: was going to come out victorious?
Speaker 3: I really didn't know. I mean, I think that it
Speaker 3: was pretty evenly matched. Wes has the experience. Dusty is
Speaker 3: an incredible athlete, which hasn't really been highlighted too too
Speaker 3: much yet, you know, unfortunately for him. But like if
Speaker 3: you were to see him compete in some of the
Speaker 3: daily challenges, you would put a lot of emphasis on
Speaker 3: his athletic ability.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wes's fight like struggle with the ropes, like his curse.
Speaker 4: Not until after not until after.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know he's strategic, and so I figured
Speaker 3: the issue is with Wes going first, right, Like, Wes
Speaker 3: was the first person to figure out which wheel was
Speaker 3: going to be the one to actually have enough leverage
Speaker 3: to knock the other person off.
Speaker 4: So by Dusty staying up there watching that, he didn't
Speaker 4: even have to waste time trying that exactly. I just
Speaker 4: went right for the second one.
Speaker 2: So I think start of Dusty, Yeah.
Speaker 4: For sure, it gave it gave Dusty an advantage.
Speaker 3: So you know, when when the Times came out and
Speaker 3: we found out that Wes one, I mean it was
Speaker 3: like a shock to everybody.
Speaker 1: How long did it take for them to make that
Speaker 1: announcement because we saw like kind of a not a
Speaker 1: slow mo, but we just saw everyone's reactions when it
Speaker 1: really seemed Wes seemed defeated.
Speaker 2: It really did seem like Wes lost.
Speaker 1: How much time do you think passed before they actually
Speaker 1: kind of got them both up there and then announced
Speaker 1: it right here who the winner is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least thirty to forty five minutes because Wes
Speaker 3: was sitting in the in the mud soup for a while.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, and they didn't encourage him to get it.
Speaker 2: They just let him stew, literally let him they let
Speaker 2: him stew.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Interesting, yeah, emails email Wes.
Speaker 4: But now he's back in the game. He's playing with
Speaker 4: Blue team.
Speaker 1: Now he takes so smart because now you guys have
Speaker 1: the numbers.
Speaker 2: Finally think are looking sort of up.
Speaker 1: I mean, in this game, anything changes every week, but
Speaker 1: you guys finally have the numbers. Had you guys talked
Speaker 1: about that beforehand, or had he shared that with you
Speaker 1: guys that he would defect if he want to come
Speaker 1: back over to the WOU team.
Speaker 3: I kind of assumed he was going to do that,
Speaker 3: And obviously you had seen this, you know, the drama
Speaker 3: brewing between Chris.
Speaker 4: Cassidy and West.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, like I kind of had it in my mind,
Speaker 3: but you know, obviously for it to go down. This
Speaker 3: is the cool thing about the challenge is somebody could
Speaker 3: take a shot at you. You can go in, you
Speaker 3: can come back, you can return the shot. And then
Speaker 3: now it's this, it's karmik in a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can return the shot and move people around,
Speaker 1: which is like changes everything. So we see west effect
Speaker 1: and then yeah, and now we're set up for next week.
Speaker 1: We had some very interesting trivia moments, which is another
Speaker 1: reason I love trivia. I don't think any will ever
Speaker 1: be as good as when Bananas said Australians speak Dutch.
Speaker 1: But Jojo Siwa coming from Dance with the Stars all
Speaker 1: the To be fair, she was on Dancing with the Stars, That's.
Speaker 5: What I said.
Speaker 4: She just didn't she just she just didn't start.
Speaker 2: She didn't she didn't start there. But it did have
Speaker 2: a dance in it.
Speaker 1: And Corey, I actually feel like we should have I
Speaker 1: didn't eve think about it till now, but we should
Speaker 1: have called Corey for this episode and just put him
Speaker 1: on speaker and asked him to pronounce Steven Spielberg, like
Speaker 1: we should be like Corey, hey, can you can you
Speaker 1: just say Steven Spielberg for a second, please? I wonder
Speaker 1: if could get it right now? Ah wild, oh wow,
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 3: I mean there's so many moments, Like we were actually
Speaker 3: up there for an hour and thirty minutes. We had
Speaker 3: so many trivia questions that you didn't get to see,
Speaker 3: so many hilarious ones. I know, one of the questions
Speaker 3: was what is the final Magic Mike movie called?
Speaker 4: And Banana's yells out.
Speaker 3: Big boner and yeah, yeah, nobody knew the answer, so
Speaker 3: like there was ridiculous response.
Speaker 2: Wait what is it called?
Speaker 4: I think it's called The Last Dance?
Speaker 2: Oh I think it is. Yeah, Oh that's hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so funny.
Speaker 4: There were some funny moments up there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I wish that you guys could watch the entire thing.
Speaker 1: They should release that the trivia part, at least uncut,
Speaker 1: because I bet you there are some really hilarious Is
Speaker 1: there another one that stood out to you as being
Speaker 1: like the dumb not dumbest answer, but sort of.
Speaker 3: The like, I'm pretty sure that while one of the
Speaker 3: questions while Lissa was up there by herself was who
Speaker 3: is the pop star that sings crazy and out of nowhere?
Speaker 3: She was like, I don't know, Prettey spears and got
Speaker 3: it right with like actually not knowing what she was
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 2: So there was some moments that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Alyssa s while she was up there alone,
Speaker 3: still answering questions, right, So it kind of sucks that
Speaker 3: they gave her the one that she didn't.
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, yeah, but I mean props to her, Props
Speaker 1: to all of them.
Speaker 2: So good.
Speaker 1: It's always so fun to see and TJ really gets
Speaker 1: really gets into it, like yeah, I mean he came
Speaker 1: to play as evidence by his shirt, I know he
Speaker 1: didn't think we were gonna let that slide. This episode
Speaker 1: he had. He really was taking some fashion risks. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: He was bold.
Speaker 1: He had the print, the applicase, the floral applicase. He
Speaker 1: was really doing something like I dare I say, this
Speaker 1: is the most bold we've seen TJ in his fashion.
Speaker 4: Can I confess something to you. I don't think I've ever.
Speaker 3: Noticed what he's worn, and I'm always mind blown by
Speaker 3: you that that's something.
Speaker 2: That sticks out in your mind. I does, and I
Speaker 2: don't know why, but I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean, it probably makes sense because I'm the one
Speaker 1: who went to the challenge house with like four bags
Speaker 1: and fourteen pairs of heels and like, you know whatever else.
Speaker 2: So I pay attention to those things.
Speaker 1: But I'm always impressed when when TJ deviates, you know.
Speaker 2: Plus he's come along way from.
Speaker 1: Like the T shirts, Like he used to just wear
Speaker 1: T shirts and now he's like exploring his style. So
Speaker 1: props to TJ for taking He looked like he was
Speaker 1: about to go to like a d or fashion show afterwards,
Speaker 1: Like really he did, good job.
Speaker 2: Good on, He's just.
Speaker 3: Flinging us all off a garage the opener evily right
Speaker 3: right into the water.
Speaker 1: And by the way, for our listeners, I love when
Speaker 1: you guys because some of them have gotten into it
Speaker 1: too and will DM me things that I don't even
Speaker 1: notice about TJ's wardrobe sometimes or things that they like.
Speaker 1: So I love that you guys analyze that along with me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that always is a shot like stand out to me. Now,
Speaker 1: speaking of.
Speaker 2: Standouts, I want to know who gets your time out
Speaker 2: of the week and who gets your gold star.
Speaker 3: My timeout goes to Unfortunately, Dusty because the blow up
Speaker 3: is what led to listen, if the blow up was
Speaker 3: on the right person, go off, Kim right right, but
Speaker 3: it was just on the wrong person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a big shot to shoot. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it not be on the right person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what do you think you agree?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't. I think you know.
Speaker 1: I'm I like a silent shot anyway, meaning or like
Speaker 1: a measured one. So even if you are mad, I
Speaker 1: think a just conversation, not a yelling. Anytime somebody sees
Speaker 1: you like sort of blow your top, I just really
Speaker 1: do think that you are at a disadvanta and anything
Speaker 1: in any moment, I just feel like you're at a disadvantage.
Speaker 1: And so I think that put him at on the
Speaker 1: back foot that way. It's why I've liked the rookies
Speaker 1: this season. And I know some people listening might be like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's hypercritical because I got on so many challengers last
Speaker 1: season in World.
Speaker 2: Of the World or in Globals. Yeah, yeah, the Global Challenge.
Speaker 1: I got on so many of the rookies about coming
Speaker 1: after the Vets, And it wasn't just that they were
Speaker 1: coming after the Vets.
Speaker 2: Like, I get it. I get that it's needed.
Speaker 1: It's happening this season, and I actually really enjoyed, well
Speaker 1: it hurts me. I also enjoyed it, like hurts so good.
Speaker 1: The difference is is that I feel like if you're
Speaker 1: measured and just organized in how you do it, it's
Speaker 1: just so much more impactful. Like I just resonate with
Speaker 1: that style of gameplay. It doesn't make one right or wrong.
Speaker 1: It's just what I prefer versus being like loud, because
Speaker 1: I think it puts you at a disadvantage. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: where you stand, and so Dusty doing that, even Cassidy
Speaker 1: coming at Wes like cool if you think there's a thing,
Speaker 1: but like play that card when necessary, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Because now when you verbally put a target too.
Speaker 1: As the house starts to get smaller and people have
Speaker 1: to say names and votes, and it gets harder to
Speaker 1: vote people in because you've built relationships because you guys
Speaker 1: have all been living in this house together, it's always
Speaker 1: easy to scape goat the people that are either chaotic
Speaker 1: or that have a very obvious feud right where you
Speaker 1: can go like, oh, I'm gonna just keep putting it
Speaker 1: all over there, whereas if.
Speaker 2: People don't know kind of where you are, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think it keeps you a little safer in
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right, and I think that like
Speaker 3: even though these rookies are organized to an extent.
Speaker 2: A lot of they were.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're still rookies, and they were, and they're kind
Speaker 1: of following apart now as the numbers start to dwindle, yay,
Speaker 1: and as they see, you guys are the cockroaches they
Speaker 1: can't kill. I mean really, even Wes coming back this
Speaker 1: week only further proves that the bets are the cockroaches.
Speaker 1: Y'all better get some raid mixed with some deep some
Speaker 1: you know, dichotomous earth or however you say it.
Speaker 2: The diatomation. I don't know, dietonation. I think that's it.
Speaker 1: Whatever, get all that to try and get them out.
Speaker 1: Who's your gold star of the week?
Speaker 3: My gold star of the week goes to listen, are
Speaker 3: we gonna give it to Wes?
Speaker 2: Like he won? I feel like who?
Speaker 3: And also and also yeah, I'm gonna give it to
Speaker 3: Wes because he gave us those great scenes of him
Speaker 3: politicking and then that we got that nice montage with
Speaker 3: the American flag behind.
Speaker 4: His yes head, and that was that was a good laugh.
Speaker 4: So I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: And then also he wins and he gets to come
Speaker 3: back in and he was stressed about being a father
Speaker 3: so I'm giving.
Speaker 5: It to Wes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was I mean that the father part
Speaker 1: and getting to see his wife was like really sweet
Speaker 1: to see, very very sweet see and the moment with
Speaker 1: Bananas and Wes honestly, and I know Wes probably felt
Speaker 1: a little embarrassed when he thought he lost was Bana's
Speaker 1: coming over there, but it was a heartwarm to me.
Speaker 1: It was a heartwarming moment, especially just their history, like
Speaker 1: man like, I was just it really was beautiful to see.
Speaker 1: I'd say my time out of the week probably go to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might go to Dusty. I think it's probably
Speaker 2: gonna have.
Speaker 1: To go to Dusty only because he came in so
Speaker 1: hard and wouldn't even listen to reason, and I get that,
Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff was like pent.
Speaker 2: Up, but it just hurt his game overall.
Speaker 1: Although when might argue him getting fired up maybe helped
Speaker 1: him going into elimination because sometimes people getting really fired
Speaker 1: up like that is like the amp they need when
Speaker 1: they're going in. So you know who knows on that end.
Speaker 1: But sorry, Dustin, I'm would have to give my time
Speaker 1: out this week. My gold star goes to Tiffany because look,
Speaker 1: I'd say I'm a relatively calm person. The way that
Speaker 1: Tiffany handled being yelled at about something she didn't do
Speaker 1: and she didn't like, at least for what we saw,
Speaker 1: she didn't like pop off or just it rightfully, ye is.
Speaker 1: There was like a patience there and a kindness there
Speaker 1: that was brilliant. Also, she gets the gold star because
Speaker 1: her commentary was funny as hell. The shade she threw
Speaker 1: in the interviews was actually very funny. She's hilarious and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to have her on the podcast.
Speaker 2: She's so very funny.
Speaker 1: But she just handled that well and even them being
Speaker 1: able to work together, and she made that little quip
Speaker 1: in the OTFS before you guys went up for the
Speaker 1: trivia High Q Trivia where the team was sitting together
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, I gotta get it right
Speaker 1: because Dusty's, you know, coming after me, and like Dusty
Speaker 1: didn't crack a smile, but like the fact that she
Speaker 1: could even kind of laugh about it, I think was
Speaker 1: so great and just spoke to her character, which is
Speaker 1: really cool.
Speaker 2: So she gets the gold star.
Speaker 1: And then the other honorable mention is obviously whoever put
Speaker 1: tj in that shirt?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the shirt that I definitely noticed yea one day.
Speaker 2: Look, they're not all noticeable.
Speaker 1: He also had on a green shirt that very much
Speaker 1: looks like an outfit I bought to wear on my
Speaker 1: honeymoon coming up on safari, pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know, probably got it from the same place. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the flooral shirt. I feel like it was a departure tea.
Speaker 1: Let me know what you guys think, But I feel
Speaker 1: like it was a bold move for him, and I'm
Speaker 1: proud of him taking these risks. Speaking of someone taking
Speaker 1: risks that our guest today is someone who is not
Speaker 1: afraid to go out there full throttle. He is a
Speaker 1: star on the Amazing Race and he is now i'd
Speaker 1: say an up and coming star on the Challenge, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you say, Tori, And.
Speaker 3: I'd say he's written one of the best pieces of
Speaker 3: literature ever ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, considering that love note to Bananas.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: So he's an author as well. So I'm excited to
Speaker 3: talk to Dusty. Let's get him on the podcast and
Speaker 3: see what he has to say about Everything that happened is.
Speaker 2: So much good stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys know the drill, Grab a snack,
Speaker 1: but take us with you and then we'll be right
Speaker 1: back with the Dusty from the Challenge USA.
Speaker 3: All right, everybody, Now you may know this person from
Speaker 3: Amazing Race thirty three he finished in third place with
Speaker 3: his partner Ryan Ferguson.
Speaker 4: Or you may know him as Dusty Dangerfield, the man
Speaker 4: with the Plan.
Speaker 2: Dusty, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: What is Tori? How are you guys doing today?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a blessing to be here. I can't even
Speaker 5: begin to describe. It's surreal being a fan of this
Speaker 5: my whole life, spending last twenty years watching this, watching
Speaker 5: you toy for the last ten years, you know, competing,
Speaker 5: and now getting to do the podcast with you guys
Speaker 5: and recap some crazy things that we just saw. This
Speaker 5: is gonna be good. I'm very excited, guys.
Speaker 2: Oh, so many questions for you, Dusty, So many questions.
Speaker 5: I have some answers I don't want to give.
Speaker 3: Well, you don't have to speak on anything you don't
Speaker 3: want to speak on, but the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, you got to keep it real.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, never wanted sugarcoat this for you, Dusty, come
Speaker 1: here to keep it real.
Speaker 5: Me. Let's go.
Speaker 4: He's ready for it.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about everything. That happened before this episode.
Speaker 3: Let's back it up for a second, because your backstory
Speaker 3: is amazing. It was one of the most interesting things
Speaker 3: that I got to learn about you while we were
Speaker 3: filming in the house. You know, we have a lot
Speaker 3: of off days where we're just chilling talking and you
Speaker 3: explained how you and your partner Ryan got on the
Speaker 3: Amazing Race and the story is pretty incredible. So would
Speaker 3: you mind just starting off by sharing that story with us?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely so. Yeah. My best friend, my partner in crime,
Speaker 5: Ryan Ferguson, we competed on Sedson thirty three of the
Speaker 5: Amazing Race together. So crazy story Ryan. When we were
Speaker 5: when he was nineteen years old and I was twenty,
Speaker 5: he was actually wrongfully convicted of a murder that he
Speaker 5: had nothing to do with in our hometown of Columbia, Missouri.
Speaker 5: He has a documentary out it's called Dream Killer that
Speaker 5: you can find on all viewing our streaming platforms, and it's,
Speaker 5: you know, basically, a kid that we went to school
Speaker 5: with had a dream one day that he had killed
Speaker 5: the sports editor of our local hometown newspaper. And it
Speaker 5: said that Ryan Ferguson, my partner in the Amazing Race,
Speaker 5: was with him, and that took the freedom of my
Speaker 5: best friend for ten years. Fortunately he got a fantastic
Speaker 5: attorney in Kathleen's Eleanor shout out to you and his
Speaker 5: amazing father, Bill Ferguson, who I love and is a
Speaker 5: real American superhero. Never let up and you know, provided
Speaker 5: the truth. I got my friend out and that led
Speaker 5: to us getting the opportunity to run the world Gallivant
Speaker 5: and him to babysit me as we raced around. I
Speaker 5: feel sorry for the guy. I bet he wishes that
Speaker 5: he wasn't with me halfway through.
Speaker 3: No Dusty, and I think, like even you taught us
Speaker 3: even more of the backstory about how the reason why
Speaker 3: he asked you to be his partner when he got
Speaker 3: asked it to be on the Amazing.
Speaker 4: Race was because out of all of the people in
Speaker 4: his life, you.
Speaker 3: Were one of the only ones who remained loyal to
Speaker 3: him while he was incarcerated for all those years. I
Speaker 3: think that just speaks volumes to your character. And I
Speaker 3: think that if you were to peel back the layers
Speaker 3: of Dusty like you are truly a heart of gold
Speaker 3: underneath all of the you know, Teddy Bear love letters
Speaker 3: and competition attitude that you bring.
Speaker 4: To the show.
Speaker 5: You know, it's I'm a guy who wears his emotions
Speaker 5: on his sleeves. If you watch the Amazing Race, you
Speaker 5: can see that. And I can assure you what you
Speaker 5: are going to see coming up here on the challenge
Speaker 5: will expedite a tenfold I would have to think. And
Speaker 5: it's just who I am. I grew up rough. I
Speaker 5: grew up in noise, violent yelling, screaming, in that environment,
Speaker 5: and it's I became a product of that environment. And
Speaker 5: I've had to work very hard the last ten years
Speaker 5: of my life to try to put that behind me,
Speaker 5: to think before I, you know, go into action. But
Speaker 5: it's a hard thing for me to do. It's never malicious,
Speaker 5: it's just more how I communicate and it just comes
Speaker 5: out sometimes pretty crazy. When I'm winning, I'm in the
Speaker 5: highs of the mountains, and when I'm losing, I'm in
Speaker 5: the lows in the valleys. It's just who I am,
Speaker 5: and the emotions are on my sleeves and it's something
Speaker 5: that I work on constantly. I don't know if it's
Speaker 5: ever going to go away completely, but you know, I
Speaker 5: will stay. And I did get a lot of growth
Speaker 5: out of spending time in that Challenge house because as
Speaker 5: you know, Tori season Vet, it's you are pressure cooked.
Speaker 5: There is no two ways to get around it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely it is.
Speaker 1: I mean I remember even my time back on the
Speaker 1: Challenge it felt very It's a lot of chaos all
Speaker 1: of the time. We know that you were Challenged super fan.
Speaker 1: What was it like coming onto the show for you?
Speaker 2: Was it everything you expected it to be? Was it
Speaker 2: different in some ways?
Speaker 5: So? I mean, honestly, like coming onto the Challenge was
Speaker 5: a dream of mine, the amazing race. I was so
Speaker 5: blessed to get to do that, and especially do it
Speaker 5: with my buddy who we lost ten years of our
Speaker 5: friendship together. What a way to make up for it.
Speaker 5: But this was my jam. To see that red jersey
Speaker 5: that said the Challenge with Dusty under it. I mean,
Speaker 5: I literally I'm about to cry right now thinking about it.
Speaker 5: It was love. It was an honor to wear that
Speaker 5: and to represent the Challenge and to actually compete with
Speaker 5: Bananas West, with all the other crazy people, Tory, all
Speaker 5: of the other contestants that I got and me from
Speaker 5: all these amazing shows. But to say that I'm a
Speaker 5: Challenger now I mean, it's it's a life long dream
Speaker 5: come true. People want to go play in the super Bowl.
Speaker 5: I wanted to run a final in the Challenge and
Speaker 5: I've wanted to for the last twenty three years.
Speaker 1: Dusty, I think we know your feelings about the Challenge
Speaker 1: versus the super Bowl because in that trivia question, sir,
Speaker 1: as a Missourian, I would have expected you to do better.
Speaker 1: You even mentioned it's your wife's favorite team and your
Speaker 1: wife family favorite team shout out to the Ksey Chiefs.
Speaker 1: What do you have to say for yourself there, sir.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you I am so ashamed. I went in
Speaker 5: very confident. I think my you know, the Red Team,
Speaker 5: good old Red Flags, felt confident in me to shit
Speaker 5: the bet on that one of all things. I mean,
Speaker 5: my questions, I'm gonna get roasted. It's going to be
Speaker 5: so bad. The ridiculele I will take it, will make
Speaker 5: up for it, I assure you do.
Speaker 3: Let's just set the story straight really quickly about this challenge,
Speaker 3: because they didn't highlight how many answers you got right us.
Speaker 4: You had so many answers.
Speaker 1: So this was about him getting one wrong because everybody eventually, yes,
Speaker 1: we're wrong, Dusty a Missourian getting a Missuri specific question
Speaker 1: wrong ball dropped.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Pat guy you one.
Speaker 2: So how was that challenge for both of you guys? Tori?
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever asked you. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts about the trivia challenges?
Speaker 2: Dusty?
Speaker 1: I want to know your feelings about doing it and
Speaker 1: also the fact that you guys got to do it
Speaker 1: as a group this time, like Toy, do you feel
Speaker 1: like that was more advantageous or did it make it harder?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it was totally an advantage and you didn't really
Speaker 3: get to see the discussions up before we told our answers,
Speaker 3: but we did have time to discuss at least fifteen seconds,
Speaker 3: So at least you got to be able to talk
Speaker 3: to somebody.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Obviously two brains are better.
Speaker 3: Than one when it comes to swing information. Yeah, yeah, so,
Speaker 3: I mean yeah in some cases exactly. So I thought
Speaker 3: it was I thought it was great. You know when
Speaker 3: we heard Red team.
Speaker 4: Going at it.
Speaker 3: I mean, Dusty, you were crushing it on your team.
Speaker 3: You were definitely the vocal point for giving the answer
Speaker 3: to TJ.
Speaker 4: But then you just slipped off.
Speaker 5: Dude, man, I'll tell you going into this like trivia.
Speaker 5: This was one of the things where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm locked in. I feel good about trivia. Yeah, And
Speaker 5: I remember sneaking into Buffalo Wia Wings Yes all the time,
Speaker 5: kind of got ready for this. I had all the
Speaker 5: apps on my phone putting work in, so I felt good.
Speaker 5: When I realized that we had to lay on a
Speaker 5: glass panel or a yes panel, I sweat profusely.
Speaker 2: Was it hot that day?
Speaker 1: Because I know you guys were cold, and a lot
Speaker 1: of the challenges you looked cold, but this one was.
Speaker 2: It was hot that day.
Speaker 5: It was so hot and immediately skin or you know,
Speaker 5: asked glass. Banana said it best. That was the play.
Speaker 5: I feel like the Blue Team, you guys, you just
Speaker 5: had the brains to really strategize everything. We would be
Speaker 5: talking Red Team, red flags, hooting and harm at each
Speaker 5: other with no structure being put into place, and I
Speaker 5: would look over and I was just like it was
Speaker 5: an oiled machine and you could just tell the experience
Speaker 5: on Blue Team really paid a huge dividends to them
Speaker 5: and Tory.
Speaker 2: What was Blue Team's strategy?
Speaker 3: Okay, listen, I I think ultimately it came down to
Speaker 3: the way Bananas told us to lay on the board,
Speaker 3: so we all had our right leg.
Speaker 4: We all hiked our shorts up literally made thongs. We
Speaker 4: made thongs.
Speaker 5: Out of our shorts.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and we put our leg on and then
Speaker 3: we crossed and pushed down. It's really hard to see
Speaker 3: what I'm doing, but go back, rewatch it. Freeze, freeze
Speaker 3: the way we were standing, because that position is what
Speaker 3: held us there for so long.
Speaker 2: You guys were all laying the same direction like we.
Speaker 3: Were all We were all holding the same positions, and
Speaker 3: a lot of people were laying flat on it. Kind
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, but that wasn't That wasn't the play.
Speaker 3: You needed a little bit more leverage to and be
Speaker 3: able to push in on your foot. So Bananas was
Speaker 3: the one that had that strategy and that kept.
Speaker 4: Us up there.
Speaker 3: That this entire thing lasted longer than an hour and
Speaker 3: a half. Wow, up, Wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 4: Week an hour.
Speaker 3: I couldn't walk when I fell into the water because
Speaker 3: that's how numb my feet were.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really impressive to stay up there for an
Speaker 1: hour and a half.
Speaker 2: Wow, Props to you guys.
Speaker 5: I was dangling with my legs off of the platform
Speaker 5: for probably twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: Literally, we did see the leg dangle and that looked great.
Speaker 1: I mean, you had great posture, Dusty. Just so you know,
Speaker 1: those legs were gracefully like angled on that platform.
Speaker 5: They only showed a little bit of it. I just
Speaker 5: kept begging. I was like, sacrifice yourself, pull me up,
Speaker 5: come on, let me go. You gotta do it. I did.
Speaker 5: I hung on as long as I could. Once the
Speaker 5: sweat started though, and the slippings started, I knew, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just kept begging TJ. Hurry, I could just let
Speaker 5: me get one more answer, please, just want more.
Speaker 1: TJ gets such a kick out of it, like TJ
Speaker 1: is like I can't. And then the fact that he
Speaker 1: threw Blue Team in the water even after they won,
Speaker 1: was just like double shady Dusty. How was it competing
Speaker 1: against because we saw and we'll get into I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know what your official nickname is, Tory might
Speaker 1: know like the duck, because before going into this you
Speaker 1: were Teddy Bear Dusty.
Speaker 2: And when I suck clips of this, oh I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that the dust sevel.
Speaker 1: I saw clips going into this episode, and I was like,
Speaker 1: how is that possible?
Speaker 2: Because Dusty is the giver of love.
Speaker 1: Notes, which we will talk about to bananas, and he
Speaker 1: is like the teddy bear.
Speaker 2: He literally just seems like a teddy bear in his interviews.
Speaker 1: So you got riled up, which, yes, you guys is
Speaker 1: love session. We will definitely get into that. But you
Speaker 1: and Tiffany basically had some friction at this point. So
Speaker 1: how was it competing with her on this particular daily
Speaker 1: where you have to really be unified as a team,
Speaker 1: You have to communicate knowing you know, you guys are
Speaker 1: not getting along.
Speaker 2: What was that like for you?
Speaker 5: So with Tiffany the night before there was definitely a
Speaker 5: quarrel where I basically berated her for my thoughts that
Speaker 5: she had. Maybee had worked something out to put votes
Speaker 5: on me, and so they recapped it with Alyssa, I
Speaker 5: have the Converse station to keep balls off me. I
Speaker 5: got four balls and I literally set four goals for myself.
Speaker 5: I think this is important before I get into this
Speaker 5: on what I expected from myself from the challenge. Number
Speaker 5: one was to stay sober, and we can get into
Speaker 5: that whenever. I felt that was important because dust Evil
Speaker 5: Musty whatever, if you would have seen it with some
Speaker 5: cocktails in it, he would have turned into a hurricane.
Speaker 2: No question, okay, Okay.
Speaker 5: Number two was to make it to a final that's
Speaker 5: to be seen. Number three, I wanted to be undeniable
Speaker 5: in competition, Okay. I wanted to make it to where
Speaker 5: the Challenge had to bring me back because I performed
Speaker 5: so well and brought so much energy to this program
Speaker 5: and this you know franchise that they had to bring
Speaker 5: me back. But lastly, the one that should have been
Speaker 5: number one was to control myself, to take a second
Speaker 5: when times were bad, reflect before acting. And I didn't do.
Speaker 1: That with Tiffany, but you were living in the moment
Speaker 1: to be fair, Dusty, especially in the Challenge House.
Speaker 2: And like you said, like it it's.
Speaker 1: Designed for even those of you who are great at
Speaker 1: maintaining control to lose control like that. It is everything
Speaker 1: that is sort of I don't say not real life,
Speaker 1: but like all the craziest things of real life.
Speaker 2: Put it's everything your parents like warn you.
Speaker 1: About, or like the good mentors in your life, you know,
Speaker 1: be wary of strangers like be you know, don't do X,
Speaker 1: y and Z like and it's putting that all on you.
Speaker 1: So I hope you don't stay hard on yourself around
Speaker 1: not maintaining control, because that's pretty much you were human
Speaker 1: in that moment. But I do how do you feel though,
Speaker 1: seeing how wrong you were.
Speaker 2: About Tith?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, seeing it. The next morning, I
Speaker 5: did have a conversation with Tiffany and I apologized at
Speaker 5: this point in the in the show, when I apologized,
Speaker 5: I still was convinced that she was one of the
Speaker 5: other girls had worked against me to vote me in.
Speaker 5: So I just communicating to a woman yelling at any
Speaker 5: time that is a big no no to me, and
Speaker 5: I could have hated in a different manner. So I'm
Speaker 5: that's one of my biggest regrets on the show, was
Speaker 5: yelling at Tiffany the way I did. See what really happened,
Speaker 5: what transpired to know, basically, my whole team and the
Speaker 5: Survivor Strong gang all put balls on me. It sucks
Speaker 5: to know it stings that happened right under my nose.
Speaker 5: I feel like this game and this just the wave
Speaker 5: just blew right over me.
Speaker 1: And I think they did that. Like, why do you
Speaker 1: think that they ended up choosing you?
Speaker 5: I think it's a very easy It was a very
Speaker 5: easy choice to be chosen. Let's be honest. If you
Speaker 5: know anything about the challenge. And again I've watched this
Speaker 5: profusely for twenty years. When you cause a scene in
Speaker 5: the house and now seeing it and knowing that the
Speaker 5: whole house was standing in the hallway of the dungeon,
Speaker 5: which was our room the dungeon, it puts the target
Speaker 5: on you. It's, you know, bad vibes in a house.
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember having multiple talks with you, Tori,
Speaker 5: and with Bananas and everyone down in the room, and
Speaker 5: it's like it's trying to keep the Richter scale from
Speaker 5: going too high or too low and keeping the windows
Speaker 5: of line in the middle. And the second that I
Speaker 5: popped off, I knew that there was probably going to
Speaker 5: be more balls coming my way. It's just but this was.
Speaker 1: Before you popped off, though, or if there's some behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, please let us know, both of you guys.
Speaker 1: But your reaction to Tiffany happened after there was first
Speaker 1: a vote for you initially right like the first time
Speaker 1: you saw your name go in, and you didn't know
Speaker 1: that the Survivor girls had done it so prior to
Speaker 1: that was because from what we saw in previous episodes,
Speaker 1: there was nothing that would indicate why it was confusing
Speaker 1: as a viewer of why even the Survivor Girls would
Speaker 1: have gone after you because we didn't see any scenes
Speaker 1: that you caused in the house, and we just saw
Speaker 1: Teddy Bear Dusty in a love note to Bananas.
Speaker 2: So was there anything else?
Speaker 1: We had Bananas on recently on the podcast and he
Speaker 1: had nothing but sweet things to say about you too,
Speaker 1: and we got to see the note.
Speaker 2: So we'll go through that.
Speaker 1: But so was there something else that happened in the
Speaker 1: house of why you think the Survivor Girls would have it?
Speaker 2: Just didn't. It seems to be a gap there.
Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you, I think that. And again,
Speaker 5: just going back to my personality, man, I bring a
Speaker 5: lot of energy to the table, and there was multiple
Speaker 5: conversations had with Mikayla and I. We spoke quite a
Speaker 5: few times throughout the season to where she was really
Speaker 5: leaning into me to try to get me to work
Speaker 5: with them, and it's just my bed was already made
Speaker 5: at this Okay, breaking loyalty to who I was working
Speaker 5: with was something, you know, the point I was in
Speaker 5: in the game, it wouldn't have made any sense. And gotcha,
Speaker 5: just my vibe in the house, I kind of figured
Speaker 5: that survivor would stick together. I thought I had a
Speaker 5: better opportunity to do more damage with the people that
Speaker 5: I would and with the Vet absolutely, and I wasn't
Speaker 5: going to go against them.
Speaker 1: It's just so maybe they came after you because they
Speaker 1: thought you weren't an ally. It seems like like that
Speaker 1: you weren't going to side and vote along the lines
Speaker 1: they wanted.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And let's be honest, there's no blood on your hands.
Speaker 5: When there's one amazing race person left in the house,
Speaker 5: I become an easy vote when there's you know, if
Speaker 5: I had an alliance of six amazing race people supporting me,
Speaker 5: I would have people fighting more for me. Right, It's beast.
Speaker 5: I knew coming in with just Lewis this was gonna
Speaker 5: be an uphill battle. But I like to eat. I
Speaker 5: like it to be hard, and I got everything I
Speaker 5: asked for. I can assure you that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting is like because eventually we
Speaker 3: got to a point where, you know, Dussey, we needed
Speaker 3: you just as much as you needed us.
Speaker 4: The Vets I'm talking about, and.
Speaker 3: They show Operation hat Trick the week prior when we
Speaker 3: all and the best thing is Dusty was a part
Speaker 3: of that, but it doesn't even look like he was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dusty, Dusty was in on operation hat trick all us.
Speaker 1: Wait, Dusty, did you eat your piece of paper or
Speaker 1: flush it down the toilet? Because that was the thing
Speaker 1: immediately swallow you ate?
Speaker 2: You guys could have flushed it.
Speaker 5: Why I wasn't going to be outdone by Oh my.
Speaker 1: Gosh, were they not beating you guys in the house,
Speaker 1: which we haven't talked about so far this season, Tory,
Speaker 1: what were you guys eat?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Was there ever any fighting over because I know, least
Speaker 1: back in the day in the Old School Challenge a
Speaker 1: couple but big fights that happened in the house. As
Speaker 1: a viewer, you'd watch them and just be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Nanni's fighting with Frank or whatever. But really
Speaker 1: it was because it started over a bottle of hot sauce,
Speaker 1: or like it started over the last piece of chicken
Speaker 1: and somebody was hungry and they couldn't get it, and
Speaker 1: like that was the origin of the fight.
Speaker 2: So that happened.
Speaker 1: Actually quite people were hoarding snacks. That happened both times
Speaker 1: I was on the challenge. So were there any moments
Speaker 1: like that here where everybody?
Speaker 2: Yes, really.
Speaker 3: Wait, yes, Mikayla and I love her to death would
Speaker 3: steal the frozen berries and she would hide them.
Speaker 4: To this day, we still don't know where she was hid.
Speaker 4: She would you nowhere.
Speaker 5: We had a freezer down by the dungeon that no
Speaker 5: one knew about, and she put them all in there,
Speaker 5: literally right there down in the dungeon. That's where all
Speaker 5: of her stuff was always at.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Michaela's so smart. She's like so sly, so sly.
Speaker 1: Why is it because you guys were eating all the berries?
Speaker 1: Is that why she felt she needed to hide them?
Speaker 1: She was just like very She was very She really
Speaker 1: cared about what she ate.
Speaker 3: She has a very clean diet, and I think when
Speaker 3: she realized that we were all kind of I don't know. Listen,
Speaker 3: there was a lot of snacks that weren't good for you.
Speaker 3: When they provided those frozen berries, she took them. The
Speaker 3: avocados were few and far between, she took them.
Speaker 2: That's like, not grocery market, Michayla. That is hilarious.
Speaker 5: It's just a man up early putting in the whole
Speaker 5: ordeal smoothies. Does that all going go?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And the words of MICHAELA, there is some tea
Speaker 1: going on. You don't want to miss this. We got
Speaker 1: to take a quick break, but we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So before we get into like the craziness of you know,
Speaker 1: the elimination and sort of the teeth biting moment of that,
Speaker 1: let's take it back to a really special moment you
Speaker 1: had with Wes where you guys were talking about fatherhood.
Speaker 2: That was really cool.
Speaker 1: Had you guys had any deep conversations prior to because
Speaker 1: we haven't seen it like prior to this, or like
Speaker 1: how did this you know, sort of vulnerable conversation come
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 5: So the crazy thing is Wes is expecting I believe
Speaker 5: in September. If I'm not mistaken, my wife was actually
Speaker 5: pregnant as well. But Wes, ma, wow, very clear that
Speaker 5: this was his season. This is number two for me,
Speaker 5: so I wanted him to have all the shine of
Speaker 5: being a.
Speaker 2: New So does your wife do Dusty?
Speaker 5: Very soon? Here do on the tenth actually premiere day?
Speaker 1: Now, Oh my gosh, oh wow, so special and congratulations.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a sign of a future challenger Dusty. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to have a challenge generations
Speaker 1: at some point, if we keep going at this rate
Speaker 1: and so like you do, you and your baby could
Speaker 1: compete with john A's kids, Wes's kids moment.
Speaker 5: I mean, Johnny a few kids that just haven't knocked
Speaker 5: on the door yet.
Speaker 1: It's probably true, but but.
Speaker 5: Take that level.
Speaker 2: There he is, there's a tout level. He showed himself.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, man, it's it's it's it was beautiful
Speaker 3: to watch you and let's have that conversation.
Speaker 4: And I think it goes to show like how.
Speaker 3: Tight that room that dungeon really became. Throughout the entire game.
Speaker 3: You can really see how Survivor is obviously still Survivor
Speaker 3: strong and Dusty you were with amazing race and then
Speaker 3: obviously Lewis is gone and now you.
Speaker 4: Literally have nobody.
Speaker 3: So at this point in the game, recognizing that you know,
Speaker 3: you had this blow up with Tiffany, knowing that the
Speaker 3: Vets were really the only people on your side, did
Speaker 3: you start to have feelings of like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: am I playing this game the right way? Or is
Speaker 3: there anything else I could be doing at this point
Speaker 3: to get further.
Speaker 5: I feel like at this point in you know, the war,
Speaker 5: it's your I'm laying in the bet that I'm going
Speaker 5: to lay in. You know, losing Lewis was heartbreaking. Sucks
Speaker 5: because he was truly an ally to me. I just
Speaker 5: feel like that he played his cards too soon with
Speaker 5: the routes he wanted to go, and we just didn't
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to position ourselves very well together. But
Speaker 5: I love that guy. Man, he is a force to
Speaker 5: be reckoned with, and you know, it means the world
Speaker 5: to me. I just really felt, to be honest walking
Speaker 5: into the house. Let's be honest, partnering with the Vets
Speaker 5: probably wasn't the smartest move for any rookie to do.
Speaker 5: I had a very, very in depth conversation early into
Speaker 5: my Challenge career. I believe you were in there, Tory
Speaker 5: but as well with a special fruit named bananas. But
Speaker 5: he told me he realized that something very important to
Speaker 5: me is, you know, I'm a little bit older in
Speaker 5: the tooth and a lot of these kids. Let's be honest,
Speaker 5: I'm thirty nine going on to forty, so there may
Speaker 5: not be many years left of this. I want to
Speaker 5: continue to compete on this and you know, make a
Speaker 5: name for myself on the challenge and Banana said it best.
Speaker 5: He was like, listen, you can fly with the pigeons
Speaker 5: in one direction and see where that gets you. Or
Speaker 5: he was like, you can be an eagle that's going
Speaker 5: to cut down through all the pigeons and he goes,
Speaker 5: My best advice to you, Dusty is to cut against
Speaker 5: the grain. And that is something that really stuck with
Speaker 5: me from that moment on because there is a difference
Speaker 5: in what the Amazing Races and what the challenge is,
Speaker 5: and it's something that just it took me a little
Speaker 5: bit to understand, Like watching it for twenty years and
Speaker 5: then going into that house. Nothing prepared you for that
Speaker 5: because you have what format there's a hopper, is it
Speaker 5: going to be team, is it going to be individual?
Speaker 3: What are you into with the Amazing Race, there's really
Speaker 3: not a lot of gameplay, Like you don't have to strategize,
Speaker 3: you don't have to vote people into elimination.
Speaker 4: So you've already had this. You already had the physical.
Speaker 3: Experience because you're aren't you like an ultra marathon or
Speaker 3: don't you like run hundreds of miles I do?
Speaker 5: Iron Man's yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, Like why yeah?
Speaker 3: So that just goes to show how fit Dusty is like,
Speaker 3: and we knew that no matter what, this guy was
Speaker 3: the real deal.
Speaker 4: You nobody runs, nobody's an iron.
Speaker 3: Man's right, they're not the real deal. And then so
Speaker 3: obviously he had the Amazing Races. But yeah, how was
Speaker 3: it like trying to even politic This is your first
Speaker 3: experience politics, man.
Speaker 5: It is when you go into a house of all
Speaker 5: a type personalities. I mean there is not I mean,
Speaker 5: I think Tyler slept a lot, but even when you
Speaker 5: could get him talking, he had a little a personality
Speaker 5: and a deeple there. It is something else, man. I
Speaker 5: thought I had this vision in the back of my
Speaker 5: mind that oh, I'm gonna have best friends for the
Speaker 5: rest of my life, just like my Amazing Race cast.
Speaker 5: It's like we go on vacation every year. There's this love.
Speaker 5: But like Tori said, there is no like game in
Speaker 5: the Amazing Race. It's just don't get fast. And so
Speaker 5: you think you're prepared, You think you know you're gonna
Speaker 5: do You're gonna say this, do that. But a famous
Speaker 5: quote that I live by by mister Mike Tyson is
Speaker 5: you always have a plan until you're punched in the face.
Speaker 5: And I will assure you the Challenge House will punch
Speaker 5: you square between the eyes every.
Speaker 1: Single yeah, and this season in particular because we were
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's so, you know, something that separates
Speaker 1: the Challenge or has for years, and I'd argue you
Speaker 1: probably still does, is one. When the show originally started,
Speaker 1: it was people who were cast on their shows because
Speaker 1: they were people who spoke their minds and stood in it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't about sort of manipulation gameplay.
Speaker 1: It was literally, you are this personality and like you
Speaker 1: stand by that the real worlds and the road rules.
Speaker 1: That's why we were cast on those shows. And then
Speaker 1: ultimately right it turned into the Challenge. Then you start
Speaker 1: bringing in Big Brother survivor people who were cast because
Speaker 1: of their ability to kind of scheme, manipulate, keep secrets,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like Analyze, which is very different.
Speaker 1: And even before when they would have Big Brother people on,
Speaker 1: there would either usually still be so many challengers or
Speaker 1: just the structure of the game would be that they
Speaker 1: would very quickly have to adapt to as we've been
Speaker 1: saying on this podcast, or say it with your chest,
Speaker 1: which is like if you say you're going to vote
Speaker 1: someone like or where there wasn't secret voting for Examp.
Speaker 2: So if you if I said, Dusty, I had to
Speaker 2: say it to your face that I.
Speaker 1: Was voting you in and then you know you could
Speaker 1: come after me after that. Whereas this season is interesting
Speaker 1: because you know, the producers have made it so with
Speaker 1: this secret vote that people can be real messy. So
Speaker 1: it's really a balance of what the challenges and the
Speaker 1: sneakiness of you know, Survivor and Big Brother, which has
Speaker 1: clearly made it hard for the Bets this season. They
Speaker 1: were on the back foot for the first half of
Speaker 1: the season so far, we'll see how to end up.
Speaker 1: And then for you coming in for your first season,
Speaker 1: my god, man, like that you making it this far
Speaker 1: in this season in particular is seriously no and with
Speaker 1: one of the smart I mean, part of the reason
Speaker 1: the Bets are struggling is because they don't have the
Speaker 1: numbers on their side.
Speaker 2: Amazing race didn't have the numbers on any side.
Speaker 1: So like you making it this far, Dusty, really is
Speaker 1: I mean, round of applause to you, because that is
Speaker 1: no easy task at all.
Speaker 5: That means so much to me hearing that come from you.
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't get to where I wanted to
Speaker 5: be but I know, I know now what needs to
Speaker 5: be done. I truly believe that I can win the challenge.
Speaker 5: I know I can one hundred percent. I can, and
Speaker 5: that is my objective in life is to win that
Speaker 5: thing and let my two sons meet me, watch me
Speaker 5: bea champion.
Speaker 2: What would you do differently?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: What's you?
Speaker 1: Don't have to give your whole strategy because then I
Speaker 1: don't want you blaming us when people listen to the
Speaker 1: podcast and the next season they coming you stretched you,
Speaker 1: But what's one thing you would do differently when you
Speaker 1: come back?
Speaker 5: I would make everyone an F and earn their way
Speaker 5: to an A instead of making everyone in a and
Speaker 5: letting them earn theirselves interesting. I get of the doubt
Speaker 5: m h and want to hurt feelings. You know, I
Speaker 5: thought I could play this game nobly, and you learn
Speaker 5: real quick you that does not exist in this And
Speaker 5: it's like I have the tenacity, I have the goal,
Speaker 5: I have the game to do it. I just didn't
Speaker 5: really bring as much of it as I wanted to
Speaker 5: or needed to into it. But I can tell you this,
Speaker 5: the little seedling has been one, and I'm gonna turn
Speaker 5: into a redwe and I'm gonna thump some of the
Speaker 5: fuckers next time I get a chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dust level I just hear.
Speaker 1: I feel like the dust Devil is next season, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, who is this gonna be?
Speaker 5: I want to control my emotions better to take a
Speaker 5: deep breath, walk away, yes, and have my conversations.
Speaker 1: Man, your emotions will kill you every time Dusty in
Speaker 1: that game, like you have to be the ones who
Speaker 1: do well and go far, I'd say consistently, are the
Speaker 1: ones who can be pragmatic when it is needed. Like
Speaker 1: even john A's sort of victory like return from what
Speaker 1: she was back in the day to a challenger. Now
Speaker 1: you see someone who is much more methodical, you know,
Speaker 1: like just pragmatic about things.
Speaker 2: Bananas can turn it on.
Speaker 1: Even Tori, as we've seen her grow on the challenge
Speaker 1: and when it's like you just get you gotta the
Speaker 1: emotions are there like let it all fall apart when
Speaker 1: the game's over and then you know we all need therapy.
Speaker 1: But in the game, like like you've gotta be pragmatic
Speaker 1: because if they can smell fear, or the minute that
Speaker 1: they can since it, you know you're already kind of
Speaker 1: backed into a corner.
Speaker 5: You've got to learn from this business. And it is
Speaker 5: a business. And that's something that I realized maybe a
Speaker 5: little too late in the game, that is it is
Speaker 5: business man. That's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for
Speaker 5: a man and a woman. You guys wanted that as
Speaker 5: much as I did. And it's like, you're gonna do
Speaker 5: whatever it takes to do that, and I need to
Speaker 5: realize that. And it's you know, I'm going to continue
Speaker 5: cutting against the grain. I'm gonna have my moments. There's
Speaker 5: no two ways about it. I will pop off if
Speaker 5: it gets to the point it's gonna happen. It's control
Speaker 5: it as best as I can.
Speaker 2: Use it to your advantage.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely. And it's just I hope there's not a
Speaker 5: hopper next time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, but how about this?
Speaker 3: Do you hope there's not not a steering wheel and
Speaker 3: a large sewing.
Speaker 4: Thimble next time too? What was the thing you guys
Speaker 4: were spinning on?
Speaker 5: What do we call that? I have no idea A
Speaker 5: sewing wheel?
Speaker 2: Sewing? Have you ever sewn anything in your life? Story?
Speaker 1: My great grandma Babushko, I knew it was a no
Speaker 1: the minute she described it.
Speaker 2: As a sewing wheel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was something else. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: Do you usually attack not so chaotically dusty? Like is
Speaker 1: your thing?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, walk us through the strategy of you going, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is how I'm I'm gonna go with it, not
Speaker 1: after you saw Wes do it so not slowly, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like just so kind of yeah.
Speaker 5: So, first off, I was so excited that I was
Speaker 5: on the drum first and I got to watch what
Speaker 5: Wes was gonna be. I immediately knew I was going
Speaker 5: to go to the second wheel. My thought was a
Speaker 5: smart the third. So I get to the first wheel.
Speaker 5: You know, the objective is to untie this thing as
Speaker 5: quickly as possible. My dumbass is working in the middle
Speaker 5: of the poles holding it up when clearly what you
Speaker 5: need to do is pull from the outside so you're
Speaker 5: not getting tangled up in the roads or you're pulling
Speaker 5: them apart. So I got through the first whel It
Speaker 5: definitely took me a little bit of time to untangle
Speaker 5: myself before I could get it loose. But I immediately
Speaker 5: ran back to the second wheel and I caught DESI
Speaker 5: she kind of slipped something under her breath. Yes there,
Speaker 5: I'm glad they did, uh.
Speaker 2: Shout out des yes.
Speaker 5: And so I heard her say that, and I immediately
Speaker 5: pulled from the outside and I knew I was in business.
Speaker 5: Then I was like, okay, so I get the second
Speaker 5: wheel on, and I mean, the the thoughts in my head.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm like, I'm going to kill this ginger.
Speaker 5: I'm going to sing so hard that he shoots up
Speaker 5: into the crowd. There'll be nothing he can do. And
Speaker 5: so I'll be honest with you. I gave it one
Speaker 5: tug to the right and put every single thing that
Speaker 5: I had into it to spin it to the left.
Speaker 5: And when I dumped him, you know, you hear a
Speaker 5: bit of it. Some excitement comes out of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it looked fat.
Speaker 1: You did a crab like to be fair, and also
Speaker 1: you up on that the you we did a great
Speaker 1: job because those things are so hard to balance on
Speaker 1: and you're tall, so you were and you were standing
Speaker 1: up like you had some balance in there.
Speaker 2: Some very good.
Speaker 1: Are you a good dancer, Dusty? I feel like we
Speaker 1: saw means because you you had the rhythm.
Speaker 5: For show us a boot scoop boogie, Show us I'm
Speaker 5: hoping in an episode in the clubs you get to
Speaker 5: see a few moves. I mean, I don't have feet,
Speaker 5: if that's what you're asking.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Dusty coming with a little swag, all right.
Speaker 2: So I saw the.
Speaker 5: Moment, it felt so good about the performance. When I
Speaker 5: fell in, I honestly was very nervous because I was, like,
Speaker 5: felt pretty quick. But then once you see Wes on it,
Speaker 5: it's a lot harder to stand on that drum than
Speaker 5: people think. Yeah, I have pretty good balance. I was
Speaker 5: literally doing like one legged squats, waiting in the back,
Speaker 5: like mentally preparing myself, and so I felt good. Thirty
Speaker 5: seven seconds literally haunts me to this day.
Speaker 2: I wake up along the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think like like each because it's thirty
Speaker 1: seven seconds difference, But were you standing up?
Speaker 2: You know? Was it kind of like a five twenty
Speaker 2: minute challenge? A five minute challenge like ten minutes.
Speaker 5: Ten minutes? Yeah, somewhere in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, so it would be hard to tell.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would be a little bit longer in the ropes,
Speaker 5: but I mashed him on the spinning drum right vice versa.
Speaker 5: He untied the first one a little quicker than me.
Speaker 5: And I mean I for sure thought I won. I
Speaker 5: think everyone thought I won, but it looked.
Speaker 2: Like everyone, Oh yeah, yeah, everyone thought.
Speaker 4: I mean you saw it on Wes.
Speaker 3: Wes is sitting their head down, Banana's is giving him
Speaker 3: a mud massage, like.
Speaker 4: Yeh, we all we all thought Wes lost.
Speaker 3: You know, which was you know, sad in its own way.
Speaker 3: I was happy. We were all happy Dusty. Not we
Speaker 3: were all, but a lot of us were so happy
Speaker 3: Dusty was coming back. Wait, Dussy, were you gonna switch
Speaker 3: teams if you didn't move?
Speaker 5: Man? I had I had an idea to come to
Speaker 5: the B I mean, going to Blue, let's be honest,
Speaker 5: was the smartest play, no question asked. But part of me,
Speaker 5: with everything that I'd been through with that damn Red Team,
Speaker 5: it's like, I think there's gonna be a target on
Speaker 5: my back anyways, And I was pretty convinced it was
Speaker 5: gonna split up pretty soon or like go to partners
Speaker 5: or something to where it wouldn't matter anyway. So part
Speaker 5: of me was a bit nervous to piss off the
Speaker 5: Red Team even more in the event that somehow they
Speaker 5: figured out how to win one without Tory and bananas
Speaker 5: throwing something right, I was the target again. So I mean,
Speaker 5: and guess.
Speaker 1: What, you didn't know that they had voted for you, right,
Speaker 1: like you still didn't know. You thought it was just
Speaker 1: Tiffany and someone else. You didn't realize it was Michelle.
Speaker 5: And at this point I had known Joe okay, spoke
Speaker 5: with me, Michelle spoke with me Chanelle's okay.
Speaker 2: So they admitted it. Yeah, they admitted that they vote
Speaker 2: for you, okay, and it.
Speaker 5: Was all love and I told him, listen, guys, at
Speaker 5: this point, it's like I think Tory said it best.
Speaker 5: We had multiple conversations where it's like you're not truly
Speaker 5: a challenger until you go into the arena and go
Speaker 5: prove yourself. And so walking down into that the first time,
Speaker 5: I was extreme nervous. But it's strange, right when you
Speaker 5: hit sand Peter, when you step over that rope into
Speaker 5: that ring, some came over me and it was like,
Speaker 5: I'm ready. I feel so at peace, so ready to go.
Speaker 5: I thought I did enough and man to be able
Speaker 5: to beat Wes if to take him out and put
Speaker 5: that notch on my coffee table. One of the best
Speaker 5: to ever be in eliminations. I would have loved to
Speaker 5: been able to do that, I mean.
Speaker 1: And to get so c you though, got so close.
Speaker 1: And it was two Missourians, all right, This was like
Speaker 1: the fight of the state. Okay, it was the middle
Speaker 1: of Missouri versus the west side. For people who don't know,
Speaker 1: go get a map. I'm largely talking to our producer Nicole,
Speaker 1: who I love. We've had this conversation, but not me.
Speaker 4: Also getting a map.
Speaker 1: What I deal with your two Missourians for those who
Speaker 1: don't know, Dusty being from Columbia at West being from
Speaker 1: Kansas City, like battling it out, and what I'd say
Speaker 1: was a pretty I mean, it was epic to watch
Speaker 1: because you really couldn't tell. And like you said, you
Speaker 1: both had very different strategies. Even standing up on the
Speaker 1: sewing wheel. You stood up West crouched Dan like seemed
Speaker 1: to kind of stay down the whole time. You guys
Speaker 1: just had very different ways of doing it, and it
Speaker 1: really looked.
Speaker 2: Like like it was anyone's game.
Speaker 1: And again, as a rookie, props to you, Dusty, because that,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty.
Speaker 2: That was epic.
Speaker 5: Was I wanted it so bad, bad man, like so
Speaker 5: bad to win that one, though, when it was all
Speaker 5: said and done and over, I feel like I could
Speaker 5: have blown up. I felt like I won. I felt slighted.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, it is what
Speaker 5: it is, and it was an honor to lose to Wes. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm very grateful that if I was gonna lose, to
Speaker 5: lose to a legend. And I'll say it to this day,
Speaker 5: I know everyone wanted to come in and knock these
Speaker 5: bets out of this business, knock this game. It did
Speaker 5: I it take over the ropes and we'll see what happened.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you have to respect what
Speaker 5: these people have built for us, right don't have the
Speaker 5: opportunity to do this. And I'm being Dusty, it was
Speaker 5: an honor to compete with Survivor and Big Brother and
Speaker 5: I have friends for lifetimes.
Speaker 1: Probably trying a politic for next season, Dusty, if you
Speaker 1: don't slow down, we are onto you what you're.
Speaker 5: Going to do.
Speaker 2: No, I'm onto both of you.
Speaker 1: I get on Tory about it too, but I'm like Tori,
Speaker 1: you are so obviously politicing in this moment.
Speaker 2: Be hious about it.
Speaker 1: Ready, let's go speaking of politicing or just genuine love.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your love letter to Bananas. What inspired
Speaker 1: you to write it? And we got to hear a
Speaker 1: little bit of it a couple of episodes ago, But
Speaker 1: can you just share what you wanted to convey?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, so, I don't want to call it a love
Speaker 5: letter to Banana's. So this was actually written when Bananas
Speaker 5: went into elimination.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: And so at this point, man, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 5: You see Bananas on TV. He's a guy that you're
Speaker 5: either going to be extremely drawn to or a guy
Speaker 5: that you're going to be extremely detracted annoyed by. That's
Speaker 5: fair that when I entered the house, the room I
Speaker 5: got stuck in. Instead of turning left, I made the
Speaker 5: right to the dungeons. So I'm stuck with Bananas, Paully
Speaker 5: and Josh, my roommates. I know I'm in for a ride,
Speaker 5: and so I grabbed the reins. And so, as a
Speaker 5: you know, a super fan of the show, spending time
Speaker 5: with these guys, some of my best moments were hearing
Speaker 5: stories from all of these people, the vets that were
Speaker 5: on the show and what they've been through, and so
Speaker 5: Banana's just really became a voice of reason for me.
Speaker 5: That is a crazy thing to say out loud. He
Speaker 5: was looking board man. He gave me lots of good advice,
Speaker 5: not just challenge advice, but just life advice. And if
Speaker 5: banana's the opportunity, you open up and kind of let
Speaker 5: him in a little bit. He's got a rough exterior,
Speaker 5: but when you peel a banana, their emotions often.
Speaker 1: Say yeah, that's exactly what we say about nanners.
Speaker 2: That is a hundred percent true.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to show my appreciation man, give him
Speaker 5: my contact information and made some plans like whitewater wrap
Speaker 5: do some things. And it's just like it was just
Speaker 5: a token of my appreciation for the things that he
Speaker 5: kind of did for me, you know, kind of taking
Speaker 5: me under his wing and dealing with my crazy ass.
Speaker 3: Dude, he loved you, he needed you just like you
Speaker 3: needed him. And I'm sure, I mean, you should have
Speaker 3: seen him when you went home. You know, he just
Speaker 3: kind of like flopped on the bed and was like damn,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we love Wes too, but no one,
Speaker 4: none of us wanted.
Speaker 3: To see you go, Dusty like you brought so some
Speaker 3: of the best stories.
Speaker 4: In the house.
Speaker 3: There's not very many people that can sit the entire
Speaker 3: house down and have them all laughing dusty stories from home.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say what they were. I'm just
Speaker 4: going to tell us at least one.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you can't come on the podcast and
Speaker 1: not tell us at least everyone listening wants to know
Speaker 1: at least one dusty story.
Speaker 2: So can you give us I don't.
Speaker 5: You can't air this shit.
Speaker 2: I don't think you.
Speaker 4: Can air it.
Speaker 2: Okay, our producer she'll cut it out. Then she'll cut
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 4: I want to know a dusty What is a dusty ism?
Speaker 2: What is a dusty story writer?
Speaker 5: Or a letter?
Speaker 4: Dusty writer?
Speaker 5: Letter?
Speaker 4: How about it?
Speaker 5: I write you a letter with it. Yes, I will
Speaker 5: send you a letter, and you do as you see
Speaker 5: fit with it. Just they'll give me.
Speaker 2: I will hold it. That'll be a keepsake.
Speaker 1: That'll be that'll be like a collector's item in ten years,
Speaker 1: A dusty and authentic, dusty letter. That'll be more valuable
Speaker 1: than what the beanie babies were ever supposed to be.
Speaker 2: I will take a letter, dusty.
Speaker 1: I will give you my address after this, I fully
Speaker 1: expect the dusty letter happened.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm a proponent that lives too short. Man,
Speaker 5: live it to the fullest, grubby bull by the horns
Speaker 5: and thrash your way through everything. Man, It's just it
Speaker 5: is what it is. I uh hints drinking. You know,
Speaker 5: I used to drink a lot and get wild and
Speaker 5: do crazy shit. And I mean you, I'm proud that
Speaker 5: I stayed sober through that madness because literally drinking in
Speaker 5: the house is a ped I'm telling you to get
Speaker 5: that outlet of just being able to let your guard
Speaker 5: down and release. I'm really excited for my kids to
Speaker 5: be able to see their dad. You know, he may
Speaker 5: not made it all the way to the finish line,
Speaker 5: but he fought some demons and you know, stayed sober.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sober in that house is hard. So is imagined
Speaker 1: is so so so hard.
Speaker 3: I was sober three months before going to film this season,
Speaker 3: and by like the first week, I so, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say who, but somebody's like, just have a shot,
Speaker 3: just have a shot. And I caved like that because
Speaker 3: it's so hard in that environment. So I was always
Speaker 3: looking at Dusty like, Wow, the strength it takes to
Speaker 3: be able to be in this environment. It is truly
Speaker 3: truly something else like there's so much.
Speaker 4: To be proud of.
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe you didn't make it to a final yet,
Speaker 3: but guess what, There's.
Speaker 4: Gonna be more opportunities in the future.
Speaker 3: And if not, then I'm gonna write a need letter
Speaker 3: to production because Dusty better come back my letter now.
Speaker 1: You and the bayar frozen berries being wanting more frozen
Speaker 1: berries in the house.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what Toy would write me.
Speaker 5: I just to prove that you know, I can produce
Speaker 5: on the Challenge.
Speaker 2: But that's it. That's the other thing. Please Dusty, please
Speaker 2: out of the newbies.
Speaker 1: If this is something Tory, I feel like we need
Speaker 1: to get on this train and like spread the word.
Speaker 2: Don't come in producing the show. Just be you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just be you. You don't need to making a big name.
Speaker 1: Is just you being authentic because that's why you were
Speaker 1: cast in the first place. You don't need to get
Speaker 1: in more fights and in people's faces. You don't need
Speaker 1: like just do what is literally authentically you. Because I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the one thing that would make the
Speaker 1: Challenge go downhill is if people come in thinking they
Speaker 1: need to produce and trying to produce and trying to
Speaker 1: make a moment like sure if there's a moment where
Speaker 1: someone's getting on your nerves and you want to say, well,
Speaker 1: I'll see you an elimination or whatever, you know, like
Speaker 1: like that's authentic.
Speaker 2: Cool, fine, but you don't need like you are.
Speaker 1: You're a Kanough and some of you will know what
Speaker 1: I mean when I say you are Kanough. You are
Speaker 1: so like, just be you in the show, because you're
Speaker 1: going to be incredible to watch, especially just giving your
Speaker 1: background and the marathonness and the two sides of you.
Speaker 1: You're not a Gemini by chance, are you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Okay, it's got the stingers that singer of love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be plenty to watch. So please, don't
Speaker 1: you not need to produce yourself. Just be and you'll
Speaker 1: get more out of it too. Honestly, I think and
Speaker 1: Toy can back me on this. And the moments you
Speaker 1: feel like you've gained, whether be friendships, relationships, or personal growth,
Speaker 1: it's been you just really being you and not.
Speaker 3: And people are gonna connect with that, which is why
Speaker 3: so many of us already connected with you. And I
Speaker 3: think all of the things s Deevin's saying, like, I think,
Speaker 3: don't overanalyze the way this season went for you because
Speaker 3: you stayed very true to yourself, as true as possible.
Speaker 4: That's all you can do, and you still made an
Speaker 4: epic show, you know.
Speaker 3: So Unfortunately half the stories wouldn't pass the production cut
Speaker 3: because you know, we want.
Speaker 4: To keep you on out of tail.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: I swear to God, i'mkidding. No, You're incredible, Dusty.
Speaker 1: And seriously, you don't even have to sign the letter
Speaker 1: Dusty when you say it.
Speaker 3: Just no, Dusty is one of the most you know,
Speaker 3: I think obviously, Well the first, this lasting, amazing racer
Speaker 3: that's something to be proud of, very impressive, went home
Speaker 3: against a legend in a very close elimination.
Speaker 1: With thirty seven second different thirty seven seconds.
Speaker 3: Wild competed so strongly all season and created so many
Speaker 3: incredible bonds with people who are going to stay in
Speaker 3: the game forever.
Speaker 4: So Dusty, you have a lot to be proud of.
Speaker 3: Keep your head up and congratulations on being a new
Speaker 3: dad again again.
Speaker 5: So much to me. You guys have no idea and
Speaker 5: so I got another. I gotta go win one of
Speaker 5: these damn things. Biden, Jordan, you do little boys, man,
Speaker 5: it's going to get expensive.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Dusty. Well, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: coming on the show and we look forward to talking
Speaker 3: with you again in the future.
Speaker 2: Hopefully so we do.
Speaker 1: And for everyone who wants to keep up with what
Speaker 1: you're doing and see your new little one, where can
Speaker 1: they find you on social media?
Speaker 5: You can catch me on Instagram at Dusty HARRISO three.
Speaker 5: I am on Facebook just Dusty Harris and Twitter Dusty
Speaker 5: HARRISO three as well.
Speaker 2: Thanks right, and then you guys can say them your
Speaker 2: own po box.
Speaker 1: I'm really addressed to see if he'll send me a
Speaker 1: letter too. And it's like the new version of an
Speaker 1: NFT is just Dusty letters like a collection. You should
Speaker 1: number them and then it'd be like ooh, I got
Speaker 1: like a first edition.
Speaker 2: It could be a thing.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you so much, Dusty, and thank you Dusty.
Speaker 4: Hope to see you soon, man, love you so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love you guys. Thank you for letting me
Speaker 5: do this with you.
Speaker 2: Meant the world of course. Welcome to the challenge fan.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, I love it. Guys. Have a great today.
Speaker 1: Well that was it was eye opening, it was cool,
Speaker 1: like it was good to see Dusty will definitely be back. Like,
Speaker 1: there's no way he's not coming back to the challenge.
Speaker 1: I feel like and listen, it's his own choice.
Speaker 3: If Dusty was a food, he would be an apple
Speaker 3: pop pie. Wait no, yeah, yeah, actually that makes.
Speaker 4: Sense because it's two confusing things. I meant to say
Speaker 4: he was going to be an apple pie and then
Speaker 4: chicken pot.
Speaker 3: Pie because like he's a warm Southern is he from
Speaker 3: the south?
Speaker 2: Missouri is not. We have been talking about a map.
Speaker 2: Don't worry, guys, I'm going to send her a map
Speaker 2: after this. All right, We're gonna go to lunch story
Speaker 2: and I'm just bring a masking country.
Speaker 4: Right, he's country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from a small town, but like the Missouri
Speaker 1: is literally in the middle of America.
Speaker 2: It's literally of.
Speaker 4: The country middle. He's country.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll allow that.
Speaker 3: Yes, So he's like, you know, anyway, he's like he's
Speaker 3: like a fresh baked country meal. Because I do feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, even though he's got these moments that are
Speaker 3: like really raw and authentic and like maybe he'll pop off,
Speaker 3: he's a sweeting.
Speaker 2: He's a total sweetie. Inside, he's a teddy bear and
Speaker 2: dust devil.
Speaker 1: It's like it's literally two sides of that coin, which
Speaker 1: I feel like is one of the themes of this
Speaker 1: season is we're getting ready to see two sides of
Speaker 1: I mean, we should just keep a running tallly of
Speaker 1: how many people we get to see different sides of
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Speaker 2: Where can people do that?
Speaker 1: If they want to see my backside?
Speaker 4: You want to see my backside?
Speaker 2: Okay, now, sorry, Mom, you can turn off the episode.
Speaker 4: You know, I really my posters are relatively wholesome.
Speaker 3: You guys can follow me at Tory Underscore Deal on
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Speaker 2: All my contents? Pretty awesome.
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