1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: We were presented by went Beat Betty as a team sport, 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: but together it went beat. Eric Allen here in the 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: studio at one Jets Dride, joined by Jets the puntil 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: line coach Aaron White Cotton. You're two for you and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. What's different out there this brain Um, 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: we'll starting with a bass now, you know. For the 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: most part, We've got some new faces here and there, 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: But for the most part, guys, I'm using vocabulary, I'm 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: using terms, I'm using techniques, and guys, it clicks quicker. 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: It's like, this is what he means. And then there's 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: some carry over to Eric, like the guys who've been 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: there can put their arm around the guys who are 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: brand new to like, hey, this is what he means, 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, or like, hey, don't listen to the tone, 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: this is what he means, you know. So it's it's 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: been really nice to kind of feel like, um, you're 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: not starting over some scratch, You're not um beginning a 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: whole new scheme again. It's it's now we're able to 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: build on that kind of stuff and get a little 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 1: bit more to the next level, the three oh one 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: to five O one level. How difficult? Is it for 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: the big guys, the guys that you're coaching up here 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: during the spring, when you're out there without pads and 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: you're not doing any team run activities. I'm sure to 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: a certain extent they like that because they're not getting 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: beat up. UM. So what what we've tried to really do, 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Eric is make it make it um like a positive 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: and that we get so much extra work on our 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: own that we can get farther ahead, that we have 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: even more time to drill work and be like really 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: really detailed with the stuff that maybe gets lost in 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: translation when you're watching thirty team plays, that you know 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: the guys at all levels of the roster are able 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: to get really really detailed individual coaching. I think that's 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: really is what's gonna help. And and the positive side 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: of it too is I got a group of guys 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: that works really hard and gets after it. So we 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: do some conditioning on our own, like real live UM 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: play type conditioning, and they take to it. They're not 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: they're not shying away from it. Um. We have really 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: good attendance and it's been it's been really fun to 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: watch Moork. What are you stressing? What do you emphasizing 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: in terms of technique here out break, the same thing 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: that will stress whenever we get to game one of 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: the preseason, Game two of the preseason. Violence and effort. 46 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: Just those two things will never ever ever change for us. 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: Violence and effort. Violence and effort. Now, the technique part 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: of it, like this, this hand placement here, this step, 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: this footwork, that stuff that that stuff is all nuanced 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: things that you add into the game that you're talking about, 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: But at when you're down in those in that area 52 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: and the trenches down there, some of that stuff kind 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: of goes out the window, especially if you play with 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: violence and effort. What changes for young guys when they 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: step onto an NFL field. I've heard from multiple coaches 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: when you're talking about pass rush that yes, you can 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: beat guys in college maybe with one move, but it 58 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: really doesn't begin in the NFL until you develop those owners. Yeah, 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing, Eric is um one conversation 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: I have with all new guys that are coming from colleges, Like, 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: you were probably the man at basketball at your school 62 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: and baseball and track and football. You were all state 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: and you were five star, and you were this, and 64 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: you were that. But guess what everybody else in here 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: was too, and so was that offensive tackle. You're going again, 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: So you ain't playing some bum who's going to work 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: at Bank of America next week, like you're playing a 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: real dude who does this for a living, trying to 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: feed his family. So you better have your a game, 70 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: you know. And it's not like I'm the best guy. 71 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Just show up and beat everybody. And that's what gets 72 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys in trouble. And and luckily 73 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: the two young young men that we've added through the draft, 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: they've taken right to that and they understand, like, this 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: is not a game. Like like I said, that's another 76 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: grown man across from you who's got a wife and kids, 77 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: and if you beat him, they don't eat. That's that's real. 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: That's that's real competition. Should we start with some of 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: the free agent editions? Solomon Thomas, Were you with fran Francisco? 80 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Right with him? It's a former top five pick? What 81 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: do you know about so I know that, Um, there 82 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: is not another guy that you can talk about with effort. 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: This He elevates everybody around him because the way he 84 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: plays the game, his intellect, he knows the game very well. 85 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: The guy plays ument about violence and effort. He plays 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: with violence and effort, and and that shows throughout, Like 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: you see that Solomon is not a like really huge guy. 88 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: He's not a three plus pound guy. But he plays 89 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: down in there in the A and the B gap 90 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: with those guys because of the way he attacks, in 91 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: the way that he plays the game, and on top 92 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: of all that is at all those things and the 93 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: other his talent, what he brings to the room, and 94 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: the way that he approaches and plays the game. There's 95 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: not another guy that you could say, like I'd like 96 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: for this guy to take my daughter to the prom, 97 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: like that's the kind of man that he is. So 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: having that, like Sally is just like the complete package 99 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: for us, this scheme familiarity, how he is that awesome. 100 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: That's awesome. We're watching stuff right now. Eric, we'll we'll 101 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: go in there and watch some tape and Sally's on 102 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: it from two thousand, nineteen or two thousand twenties, some 103 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: stuff that I pulled from nineteen, stuff I pulled from 104 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: twenty whatever, stuff I pull from him in Vegas because 105 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: he knows what's expected and he's been a part of it, 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: and he knows and now for him and really Eric 107 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: is just getting back into that vocabulary and some of 108 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: the slight changes in techniques that he was that was 109 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: different for him last year and and he's really hit 110 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: the ground running with It's been awesome. What do you 111 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: guys like about Jacob Martin. He's coming off a career 112 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: year in Houston, UM, obviously coming to a new system 113 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: right now. The explosion off that he flashes that, Yeah, 114 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing is like we're attack, 115 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: will always be attacked. Oh to Jim Washburn and Christka Surk, 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: we will always be attacked. We will get off the rock. 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: And I think like when you look at Jake, that's 118 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: really what he does, that's he does a great job 119 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: of that. So why not, Like it's a way for 120 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: him to flourish. And I think he's really add about 121 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: being here and we're excited to have him because those 122 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: those explosive traits, like explosions the number one thing we're 123 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: looking for and Jake's got it. Jermaine Johnson, what was 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Draft weekend like for you guys? You get Garrett Wilson 125 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: at ten and before that was Sauce Gardner of course, 126 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: and you might be sitting there as defensive line coach, 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: but like, hey, Robert, Joe, Jermaine still on a board. 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: What was draft night like? For it? Every year? It's 129 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: stressful because in my opinion, we should take seven d 130 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: linen every year. So I don't care about any other 131 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: position I'm trying to. I have such conviction about a 132 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: certain you know, one to three, four, five guys. We 133 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: gotta have this guy. We gotta have this guy. Go 134 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: get him, Go get him, go get him. And there 135 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: you know those guys. That's why they're big picture of you, 136 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: and I'm just very small picture of you because I'm 137 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: miserable the whole time if we don't get every single 138 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: guy that I love. And luckily, man, we came out 139 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: with two that I absolutely love. And Um, I think 140 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: for the organization, they're going to see why, you know, 141 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: the fans, especially the organization, those who followed Jets football, 142 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: why we really love these guys, Robert Salis said, in 143 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: terms of fit, what you guys run wide nine and 144 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: also just being um the most pro ready pass rusher. 145 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: He was the top for you guys, the top of 146 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, we just felt like Eric that Jermaine 147 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Um Jermaine has good pass rush instincts and pass rush hands, 148 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: something that can be developed. But when when he shows that, 149 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: he demonstrates out on his college tape before he gets there, 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: it feels like you don't have as far to go. 151 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 1: You know. Where you go, you find a guy who 152 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: is strictly just winning off speed around the edge, versus 153 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: versus um God bless him, tackles that aren't going to 154 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: be NFL players. Well, then now you have to work 155 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: at them and just really really fine tune those guys 156 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: and teach them how to use their hands and teach 157 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: them how to tie their hands and feet together. That's 158 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: a whole different ball game, and that sets you back, 159 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: not in a negative way, it's just takes more time. 160 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: Whereas Germaine, we felt like, man, this guy already knows 161 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 1: how to use his hands and pass rush. He already 162 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: knows like his hands and feet are already kind of 163 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: tied together. It makes it makes it easier for him 164 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: to acclimate to the pass rush in the NFL, which 165 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: is still hard. It's still really hard and still gonna 166 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: be tough for him. It's to be tough for everybody 167 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: who's a rookie this year to rush the pastor at 168 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: an effective rate. But he's got a chance to make 169 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: strides quicker. So he's got the physical skill set. UM, 170 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: and you'll like what you saw on tape. He was 171 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: dominant in Florida State. He did some good things that Georgia. 172 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: He just wanted more of an opportunity and everything checked out. 173 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: But with all that being said, what was so important? 174 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: What was clicking on that visit? He made a pro 175 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: day visit here, He visited thirty teams. He said this 176 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: by far was his best visit. I don't know, you 177 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: just have to ask him. I thought it. I thought 178 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: it went good. You know, we um. I'm a straight shooter, 179 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: you know. And it's just like, hey, Germaine, this is 180 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. This is how we're gonna roll all. 181 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: We think you fit perfectly in this. Can you do this, this, this, 182 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and this? He set yup and it was good and 183 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: we're good and we got along and there was good, 184 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: good communication and good um, a good vibe. I think 185 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: I spoke the language that that he is down for 186 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: the way we like to play, UM. And if I 187 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: was coming out, I would want to play on our 188 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: front too. But that's just me personally, um, and I'm biased, 189 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: So I think between all that stuff, I think it 190 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: just it was a good visit. And and add into 191 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: like all the support staff, how they make everything so 192 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: smooth for those guys, the operations staff, everyone, and travel. 193 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Then that he goes and meets with coach Um, then 194 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: he meets with Brick, and then he meets with you know, 195 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: and so all those things. I think if you have 196 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: two or three bad experiences out of some of that, 197 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: then it don't matter what what I have to do. Plus, 198 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: you don't really get a choice anyways. If we want him, 199 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: he's coming here. But all that being said, him having 200 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: good vibes about us and us having good vibes about 201 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: him made it made an easy choice. How about Michael Clemens, 202 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: He really flourished that past year a Texas his final year. 203 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Violent dude, big dude, what do you like about violent? 204 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: That's it? Man, Like, that's my kind of guy. Um, Mike. 205 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: Mike goes in there every every down, and like there's 206 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: times in walk Through it's like, hey, do you gotta 207 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: chill out? You know, like walk through And that's I 208 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: love that. It's better to pull him back, you know, 209 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: than have to tell him to get you up. So, Um, 210 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: the violence that he plays with, the mentality that he 211 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: plays with, matches perfectly to our front and our scheme. 212 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: That that's what really drew me to Mike. On top 213 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: of his physical abilities, Um, his intensity to learn the game, 214 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: all that stuff is is there. But the violence that 215 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm all about, that what makes Carl Losson unique. I 216 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: tell everybody who was I wanted to know anything about 217 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: the Jets last year out of your training camp, he 218 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: by far the best player on the field. But from 219 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: your perspective, a guy who's teaching him in the room, 220 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: he even for a professional, he seems to me like 221 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: he got a unique approach. Oh yeah, for sure, I 222 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: would say the number one thing. He is so internally 223 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: driven to get the most out of his body, his 224 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: skill set, whatever God has blessed him with. He is 225 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: so internally driven to get all that. It's constant information grab. 226 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: He's looking all over the league trying to find something. 227 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: Then when he gets on the field he demonstrates it. 228 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: And and Carl is so unique in that way of 229 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: just his drive and his passion for the game, his 230 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: passion to grow and and still be processed oriented with 231 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: it like if Carl doesn't get something right away, it's 232 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: not like he just throws in the trash and moves on. 233 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Like he keeps working and keeps working and keeps working 234 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: at it. But he keeps working at it a hundred 235 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: miles an hour, which, gosh, you can't ask for another 236 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: guy like that. You know. I'll get text from him 237 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: randomly about stuff like hey, what do you think about this? 238 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: And he's just he's the wheels are always turning, and 239 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: he's always thinking about ball and and it's a it's 240 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: a dream come true for me. How can you change 241 00:11:54,520 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: the dynamic upfront? Who Carl um? I? I think so 242 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: when the number one thing is I think you could 243 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: feel the last year in training camp, Carl elevates people 244 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: on the field around him because of the way that 245 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: he practices, in the way that he plays. I think, 246 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, we have a group that plays like that, 247 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: and then we adding more pieces to it and more 248 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: pieces to it, like Carl coming back that guys see like, 249 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like this is the way to approach it. 250 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: I think it's only gonna like it's gonna it's gonna 251 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: force guys to grow with that. It's gonna force guys 252 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: to match that intensity or they get left behind. And 253 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: that's really what this. You know, when coach Wash started 254 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: this years ago, it started on that competitive, nasty mentality 255 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: where everybody's pushing one another towards the common goal of 256 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And Carl is like the perfect example of 257 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: that of a guy. And let's be honest, Eric like 258 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: coming out fourth round pick. People still doubt him to 259 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: this day and all he does is keep process oriented drive, 260 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: process oriented drive. He just keeps on going. 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If you're someone you 274 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: know has a gambling problem called one seven zero seven 275 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: one one seven, how much do you guys stress coming 276 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: at people in waves, because Robert's been asked a number 277 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: of times of how many reps or how many snaps 278 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: they quinning and having this game or a few other guys, 279 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: and it will automakele say that, Hey, listen, we want 280 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: guys when they're in there to go a hundred miles. 281 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah that you can play fifty five plays a game 282 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: in this front, but you can't run to the ball, 283 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: sprint to the ball. I'm not two run. I'm telling 284 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: about sprint wide open. You saying bolt, get your butt 285 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: down the field and go touch the ball carrier. You 286 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: can't do that fifty times in a game. After Now, 287 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: let's let's rewind this. I'm talking about running fifty yards 288 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: to the ball and touch the ball carrier down tackle, 289 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: come in there with a nasty finish after you just 290 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: set an edge on a three pound man fifty times 291 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: in the game. You you're you're We've done studies of 292 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: this over and over and over. It's like diminishing returns. 293 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: So what we try to do Eric is we just 294 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: try to keep throwing guys at waves, throwing them in waves, 295 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: throwing them in waves, throwing them waves. And the reason 296 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: for that is when we get to the critical moments 297 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: of the game, it's third and eight from the eight 298 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: and we gotta get a stop in the red zone, 299 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: Quinnin should be fresh. So I'm like, go Quinnin, it's 300 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: your time to shine. You know, we have to have 301 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: him ready for that moment because if we give if 302 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: we give up four yards on first down at the 303 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: minus twenty, all right, we'll be okay with that. But 304 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: if we don't have third and eight from the eight 305 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: are best rushers in there to go finish the game, 306 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: then then we're kidding ourselves. So we need to have 307 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: that a little bit of um rotational value. And and 308 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: that's where I said, like, we gotta have eight starters, 309 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: And that's where I'm going with I think we should 310 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: draft seven d lineman every every year. We gotta have 311 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: eight starters. So I'm counting on guys when when we 312 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: draft a guy John Marshall in the sixth round, we 313 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: drafted guy Michael Comes in the fourth Like I'm looking 314 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: at this guy, like this guy's playing in games a 315 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: significant amount. He's not the third string quarterback. This dude 316 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: is playing, so he has to meet these expectations. And 317 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: he's got a rise to that, to that occasion when 318 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: he gets that opportunity to play, because he's gonna get 319 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: significant staffs and if those significant snap stink ain't gonna 320 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: be around very long. So it's a way for us 321 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: to keep keep everybody fresh, keep everybody at their best. 322 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: But also to that requires good players that we have 323 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: on our team to be able to do that. Yeah, 324 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: one of those good players I think that we've probably 325 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: overlooked here this offseason, not you guys here internally is 326 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: John Franklin. How big is his versatility and with the 327 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: additions that you guys have made this offseason, how maybe 328 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: even more effective can he be? You know what, He's 329 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: got to be more effective? All right, There's just there's 330 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: no two ways about it. And he would tell you 331 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: the same thing. He's got to be more effective. Thought 332 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: a good solid year last year, did some good things, 333 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: but he's got he's got even more. We've gotta get 334 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: more out of him, and I think um having more 335 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: parts and pieces around him. I'll give you an example, 336 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: there was a game where we had COVID issues, we 337 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: had injuries, we had some stuff going on, and John 338 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: played like fifties fifty four plays or fifty five plays. Well, 339 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: there was a stretch of about seven eight nine plays 340 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: in there. He was absolutely gassed, had played too much 341 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: and he wasn't as effective. Well, shoot, that's on me 342 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: to rotate better. That's on us to take care of 343 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: the stuff that we got to take care of off 344 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: the field. And then so that when he's in there 345 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: in those forty plays, those thirty five plays, whatever it is, 346 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: that we're getting more out of him. So now he 347 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: can put him inside to rush, he can play outside 348 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: on first and second. Now we can do some different 349 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: things with John because of that versatility. I think it's 350 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 1: gonna be great and and and he has respond to 351 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: that all offseason. His attitude is fantastic. Um, and I'm 352 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: excited to see how he grows. What's Quinn and Williams 353 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: next step. One of the most talented young defensive interior 354 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: players in the National Football League, But what is next 355 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: for him? Um? You know, Eric, I'm not the one 356 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: to put numbers on people or put He's got to 357 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: do this to be this Quinny just has to be 358 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: the best version of himself and um and I think 359 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: we're we're starting to see more and more of that 360 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: every day. He is. Definitely his internal motivation continues to grow. 361 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: He's always been internally motivated, and we're seeing that from him. 362 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: We're seeing a little bit more step up from him 363 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: vocally in the room, all that sort of stuff. And 364 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: it's year four now, Okay, now it's starting to come 365 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: together even more. He's healthy, which has been able to 366 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: kick start him in this offseason. He's got he's got 367 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: to grow and he's got to get better. It's my 368 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: job to help him, and he's embraced every opportunity to 369 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: get better this offseason. How much you can it reinforce 370 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: back in and help you guys up front because you 371 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: got those additions at the cornerback positions. Safety said a 372 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: makeover as well. And I always talk about, hey, not 373 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: only front line players, are you guys getting better, but 374 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: the depth is getting better at all these spots. Yeah, 375 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: you know, I'll let those coaches and Brick and Slid 376 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: talk about each individual piece. I just see some really 377 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: good football players that have got added to this group. 378 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: And hey, they buy us an extra hitch. It's our 379 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: responsibility to get there. And that's what those guys can 380 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: do because they're good football players being coached by good coaches, 381 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: and they get that quarterback to hitch and hitch and hitch. 382 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: Now we got to do our job and put him down. 383 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: You played college football at South Carolina right back in 384 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 1: two thousands. No, this is Lou Holtz. Is what's your 385 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: favorite story? Oh my gosh. Um, probably the best one, 386 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Eric is, Uh, we were playing Tennessee. I want to 387 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: say it was my red shirt freshman year and like 388 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: this is Tennessee, like Albert haines Worth, John Henderson, like dudes, Okay, 389 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: and then and I I want to say, shoot, four 390 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: or five years in a row, Carolina had not beaten Tennessee, 391 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: all right, and it had been very one sided. This 392 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: was phil former years. They were still they were still rolling, 393 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: they were Blue Bluff. Yeah. So we're playing Tennessee and 394 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: we and and this is like, you know, my first 395 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: year was the year that we were able to go 396 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: to the Outback Bowl and do some things where coach 397 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: really started turning the program around. And we had gotten 398 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: some momentum going into that game, and uh, felt good 399 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: about like the places that we were going. So the 400 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: day before the game, we're in the team meeting room 401 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: and everybody's just kind of sits there in the team 402 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: meeting when coach. You know, we're we're waiting on coach 403 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: because he's like like Coach was like a celebrity. You know, 404 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: he was our our coach, but he's also our celebrity too. 405 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: It's like, um, he could pretend like he knows who 406 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: I am, but I know he don't know who I am, 407 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: you know, because he's like he was like he was 408 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: the CEO celebrity of the team. So we're all just 409 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: sitting there, but when you heard that kind of door click, 410 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: you knew he was about to come in. He kind 411 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: of waited till everybody got sat down set and everybody 412 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 1: just kind of like got up in their chair and 413 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: it gets like super silent. Well, this dude walks in 414 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: in a full Tennessee uniform, helmet, jersey, shoulder pads, everything, 415 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: and minds you, coach is not that big, but he's 416 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: full decked out Tennessee uniform and everybody is just kind 417 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: of shocked, and like there's some snickers or some laughs, 418 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: like why is he doing this, he's running another team's colors, 419 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: and he's like, it's been five years. I don't want 420 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: to do an impression of him, but he's like, it's 421 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: been five years. What's so scary about this? Is anybody? 422 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: Can anybody tell me why this is so scary? So 423 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: scary Tennessee? Like this color, this hat, this ain't scary. 424 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: You know. It kind of goes off onto like what 425 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: what is? What is? Like? You see me and he's 426 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: not an imposing guy, and I'm wearing this jersey. That 427 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: doesn't make him any scarier. It was kind of his 428 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: point to it. And once he started his stick and 429 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: doing all that, everybody's dying laughing. It was a good, 430 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: like serious icebreaker to the lead up to the game. 431 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: Fast forward, you take care of it. We got these 432 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: dudes beat. They called a fake punt and excuse me, 433 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: a fake field goal. I believe it was a fake 434 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: field goal. The snapper takes the ball, he rolls out, 435 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: dude is wide open game. When he touchdown, he starts, 436 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: he gets a little bit of pressure, he short arms 437 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: the ball. It bounces a yard in front of the guy. 438 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: We've lost the game. Oh my god, we would have 439 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: won the game. Hey, did they do sandstorm at the time? No, 440 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: that was a little after So so what's the story. 441 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: First off, how do you get to the defensive side 442 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: of the ball? I know it's lying play, but you played. Yeah. 443 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: So right after college I kind of messed around a 444 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: little bit, messed around, like not not doing good enough 445 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: in school. So it took me a little bit. All right, 446 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: I finished college and you finished it Charlotte, right, yes, right. 447 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: I went back home to Charlotte cause I'm from Charlotte. 448 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: So I finished at Charlotte, and I'm trying to figure 449 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: out what I want to do. Um, I worked for 450 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: my dad for a while, our families in construction, so 451 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm doing that. UM kind of messing around trying to 452 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: figure out what I want to do. And then I 453 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: just decided I just missed ball. I really missed it bad, 454 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: and I had to figure out a way to get 455 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: back in. So I went back to my old high 456 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: school and talked to the UM. A D at the 457 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: time was the same A D when I was in school. 458 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: So I just said, hey, coach cluis anything I can 459 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: do in the football program, just let me know, Like 460 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: I just I gotta be around football somehow, some way. 461 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: So he goes and talks to the head coach. Head 462 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: coach calls me and he's like, hey, you want to 463 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: come over and just talk and hang out? Like sure, 464 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: So I go over there and uh, we're we're sitting 465 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: there talking. He's like, look like I got an oline coach. 466 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: I feel really good about um that I think is good, 467 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: but um, we don't really have a D line coach. 468 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: What's your experience? And I was like, well, my red 469 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: shirt freshman year, I was a block and dummy for 470 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: D line the whole day and I heard and I heard, 471 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: and our D line coach at the time was Charlie Strong. 472 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: So I heard every single coaching point that this guy 473 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: made and I lashed onto it. I remembered everything kind 474 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: of you know, and Coach Strong was really good to 475 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: me when I was there, so he said, well, are 476 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: you down? Ca'm down? So I started coaching D line 477 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: that year and stay there for four or five years, 478 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: kind of moving up the ranks, doing like doing some 479 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: different jobs on defense. But that's how it started. And 480 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: ever since, I've never coached offense in my life except 481 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: for one year. Went but is not live in New Jersey, 482 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: and there bringing the excitement of win Las Vegas to 483 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: online sports betting, getting on all your favorite teams, players 484 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: and sports from boostep partlays to live in game odds 485 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: on every major sport. 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But then you jumped to college 496 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: right for one year? I went to New Mexico State, 497 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: So what was what brought you to New Mexico State? 498 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: So here there's a jet centric story. So, oh, by 499 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: the way, we gotta get to you one of your 500 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: son's names, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the man um Is. 501 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: I got to a point in high school ball Eric 502 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: where I was like I think, I think I want 503 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: to do this, Like I think I think this. I 504 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: want this to be my life. And um, so, the 505 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: big thing in college football is this coaching convention. The 506 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: a f C a coaching convention every year goes to 507 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: different cities and coaches from all over high school college. 508 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: I think some pro guys go there at times if 509 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: the season is not done yet. I can't remember how 510 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: it works out now, but that's like it's like the 511 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: Mecca and all these guys are speaking. It's like Urban 512 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: Myers up there speaking and this guy's up there speaking. 513 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: This is like at the height of their coaching careers. UM, 514 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Sumlin. I'm trying to think of us. I see 515 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: I pulled up one year and Nick Saban comes up 516 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: in his limo and gets out with security details. But 517 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: it's like all the heavy hitters come and speak. But 518 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: so you paid for your way out. So I paid 519 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: for my way out there. And I'm just like anybody 520 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I can meet. UM, let's let's go, and I say, hey, listen, 521 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: here's my name, here's my contact information, and if you 522 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: I'll do anything, just let me know. I'll do anything. 523 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: So I meet these just randomly. I'm watching the UM 524 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: I'm watching the National Championship game. And I meet these 525 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: two guys who are junior college coaches in California, and 526 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: it's basically like, hey, are you sitting here? And now 527 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: the seats open if you want to sit next to us, 528 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: So I sit down, have a beer. I just start 529 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: talking to these guys whatever. And they're like, hey, we're 530 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: about to go meet this guy that we know that 531 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: coaches college. He comes and recruits our area. Like all right, 532 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: He's like, do you want to come? These guys are 533 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: good guys, We're getting along. I'm sure I ain't got 534 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: nothing else to do. So we go over there. The 535 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: dude they went to meet with Rudy, Mike Ruenberg, Mike Grutenberg, 536 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: just so we we talked and I throw the same 537 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: thing out and we talked for me and said, hey, look, 538 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys got going on out 539 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: there in New Mexico State. I'll do whatever. I don't care. 540 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: And I probably hit him with a hundred emails, a 541 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: hundred text messages all you know, anybody, I wrote a 542 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: letter to every coach in the in college football, I'll 543 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: do whatever. At at some point he probably felt back 544 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: for me. At some point, Rudy passed my name on 545 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: to the head coach and the coordinator. They asked me 546 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: if I could come out there. It's like, yes, I'm 547 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: fired up. Let's go. Like all right, well, let us 548 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: know when you can make it. Like, what do you 549 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: mean we can't pay for you to come out here. 550 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: So I found a way, like saved up some money 551 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: and went out there, had a two day interview, and 552 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: I got a job as a g A. That's something else. 553 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: That was it. And they do that, but you do 554 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: that for one year? Did it for one year and 555 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: then you break into the NFL. Uh, God's grace only 556 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: Eric Like, there's this this story can't this can only 557 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: be explained by that. So the head coach was Dwayne Walker, 558 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: all right. Dwayne Walker was the one agreed to take 559 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: me on, A great man who was a mentor to Rudy, 560 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: And like I said, Rudy, Rudy helped me get connected 561 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: to him, got out there. We worked together that year. 562 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: Well after that season, I think I don't know exactly 563 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: what his motivation was, but I think coach needed something 564 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: different and he got a call to be the dB 565 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: coach for the Jaguars, so he took it. So now 566 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm there and waiting to see who the head coach 567 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: is going to be. I'm a g A. I ain't 568 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: making squad, but I was all right, you know, I was. 569 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: I was. I was alive, I was. I was still 570 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: eating and drinking, right, so um. Then word comes quick 571 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: Rudy is going to be his assistant. Great deserved, like 572 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: they've been together for a really long time. I get it. Well. 573 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: Then like two weeks later, three weeks later, out of 574 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: the blue, take that back. Two months later, out of 575 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: the blue, I get a call from the defensive coordinator 576 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Between Rudy and d Walk, they gave me 577 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: enough recommendation that he calls and says, hey, we have 578 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: this defensive assistant position open if you want to come interview. Like, heck, yeah, 579 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: I want to come interview. Went out there on the interview. 580 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: The third day I was there, Coach Gus Bradley offered 581 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: me the job and that was it. So what was 582 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: Robert Sala like at Jacksonville in San Francisco compared to now, 583 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: because obviously he's holding different positions and and I know 584 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: you are who you are, but but what what was 585 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: it like for you to be watching him while you're developing, 586 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: and he was developing as well. Obviously, I think the 587 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: biggest thing Eric was going from from knowing him in 588 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: Jacksonville like as a peer, you know, and just and 589 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: he did a great job. Like we had we had 590 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: a good defense. He did a great job as the 591 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: linebackers coach, but he wasn't daily up in front of 592 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: the team. It wasn't daily up in front of the defense. 593 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: So I get to San Fran and now coaches in 594 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: this like leadership position. Where I walked in the first 595 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: day like hey, what's up, what's going on? But then 596 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: you see him in a different light of he's leading 597 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: the whole side of the ball, He's making decisions, he's 598 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: got you know. That was like I saw from the 599 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: moment that we part of ways. I went to Buffalo 600 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: and he went to San Fran. I saw, I saw 601 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: so much growth in him to where I showed up 602 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: in San Fran and it was u such a more 603 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: like such more of a leadership role that he was 604 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: in that I had not seen him in before because 605 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: I was never in his room and and it was 606 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: just cool to see like wow, like he's doing a 607 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: great job. This is amazing. You know, he's leading this 608 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: whole side of the ball. We're good on defense, and 609 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: and he's the guy running the ship and coaching everybody 610 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: up in the meeting every day, leading the staff meetings 611 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I had not seen him in 612 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: that light, and it was cool to see. So from 613 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: here it was more just like even more global picture 614 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: of what I saw when I first got to San France. 615 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: How much do you, as somebody on his coaching staff, 616 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: enjoy the way he relates to the players and the 617 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: way he gets his messages out in those meetings. Um, yeah, 618 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: I love it. I think I think it's um it was. 619 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: It was like a really a blessing for me to 620 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: be to work for coach Gus Bradley, because I think 621 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: coach so learned a lot of that from him, but 622 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: also to like coaches put his own spin on it. 623 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: So to see those two styles kind of merge. Coach 624 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: put his spin on it and Gus have his style, 625 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: and seeing like, oh, like that's Gus, but that's that's new, 626 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: that's that's all solid, like he made that up. That 627 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: kind of stuff is cool for me to see, like 628 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: how that interaction happens, how the leadership happens, how he 629 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: um interacts with the guys differently, like Gus was always 630 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: very interactive with the guys, but Sali interacts with him 631 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: differently in a positive way. And I thought just seeing that, 632 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: like again, that that evolution and that growth and coach 633 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: from when we were you know, down the hall in 634 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: the office too, when he's in a big office and 635 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: to an even bigger office, it was it was really cool. 636 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: And speaking of really cool, how much are you looking 637 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: forward to after you get a little break? Get? You 638 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: have the veteran minicamp right now we're taping this in 639 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: the middle of voluntary O t A S. But you 640 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: get a little bit of break, get a chance to 641 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: walk away. And by the way, we didn't cover this, 642 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: but you do have how many kids you have? And 643 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: one of them is named yet we have four. Our 644 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: our oldest boy, his name is Jack's are second boy 645 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: who was born in Buffalo just Jet fans, so you know, 646 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: and we named him Jet while we were in Buffalo. 647 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: And then our little girl, Lila and art training camp. 648 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: One baby Lorela. What do your plan? Just hang out 649 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: with them? Yeah, yeah, we'll go to the beach. Um, 650 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: My kids love the beach. We'll just go hang out 651 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: with them and just spend as much time as with 652 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, my wife, who's my best friend, and the 653 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: four kids. That's that's my whole plan. Look at you, 654 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: and how exciting is this in terms of the roster 655 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: editions that you guys have made, the scheme, familiarity, where 656 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: you guys are as his staff, the ascent. Something is 657 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: building here. Um. The first thing I sent is being 658 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: really thankful, Eric, just to have the opportunity that Coach 659 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: gave me to be here. UM, that all the things 660 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: that God has blessed us with this opportunity is is amazing. 661 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: So I'm thankful for that and wake up every day thankful. UM. 662 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: And then just that, like you said, that familiarity, UM, 663 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: I get to do Eric, I get to do something 664 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: with this front every day that I believe in, Like 665 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: I'll go to my grave believing that this is the 666 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: way to do it. I clearly, clearly, clearly understand that 667 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: there's other ways to do it that are successful and 668 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: then are good and that are different, and I respect 669 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: those ways. But what what we do. I just when 670 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: I first kind of like learned about it, when I 671 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: first watched that tape of them doing it, I fell 672 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: in love with it, and it's exciting to be able 673 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: to pour into that every single day because I believe 674 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: it in my core. There will be no read and 675 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: reacting for any of a like GOTTFF that's alignment in 676 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty two or at any point after that. 677 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back and put me in the grave 678 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: before that.