1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I don't know from 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: stuff I never told your production. iHeartRadio, and today we 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: are bringing back a recent episode as a classic, but 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: one that is important relevant right now, and it's the 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: one we did on k Pop Demon Hunter. 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: Yes, and excuse my squeaky voice, but I'm very excited 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: because obviously they had a great award season, including when 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: an oscars. I mean, come on, who knew that k 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: pop and Korean culture would be celebrated in such a way. 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: I was also excited to see that performance. Anny, did 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: you watch that performance? No, so it opens up not 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: just because of you know, the song, like everybody has 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: opinions about the song, but at the beginning they had pensori, 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: which is like an old school Korean folk singing, and 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: they really brought in the women with the humbucks doing 16 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: performances and doing traditional dances along with like traditional Korean 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: folk songs at the middle of an Oscar and I 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: teared up. So being able to see this in this 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: type of representation when for so long, like I was 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: grasping at things, it felt timely, we needed it, and 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: I felt like, yes, we need to talk about this again. 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely well, please enjoy this classic episode. 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: Hey, this is Sanny and Samantha. 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm welcome to stuff. I never told your proflection, have 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I heard you? 26 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: And we decided as this month has become kind of 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: crunch time in our years, there's so many things extra happening, 28 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: including yeah Stewey duty, Yeah that's the curse and I 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: got it, and I got it, it got me. But 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: with that also dragon cons coming up, so we got 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: so many things. We've got so many things happening, we 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: decided we would add a spoiled Saturday episode. But it 33 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: fits pretty perfectly with our childhood memories theme that we've 34 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: been doing this month. So for today's episode, we are 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: featuring K Pop Demon Hunter, which is on Netflix. Not 36 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: a sponsor. Uh, if you want to take a moment 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: and go watch it, you should before we talk about it. 38 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: If you don't and you just won't hear what it's about, 39 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: that's fine too. I wouldn't need that as well. But obviously, 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: since it was just released, spoilers spoilers all around, So 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: if you don't, yes, so if you don't want to 42 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: be spoiled, I would not listen to this all right, 43 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: So some background why this has made its mark in 44 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: entertainment thus far. It is a Sony production, so the 45 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: same people as Spider Verse that any absolutely loves. Uh. 46 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: This is the first movie written and directed by Korean 47 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: Canadian Maggie Kung with Chris Applehan's so they co directed it. 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: But this is a story that Maggie has been working 49 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: on for quite some time, so she wanted to combine 50 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: her heritage with the legends and history of South Korea. 51 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: She is a seasoned storyteller, working previously with DreamWorks on 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: animations like Kung Fu, Panda, Shrek, and Mini Mini Moore. 53 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: She told geek Out that this about k pop Demon Hunter. 54 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to see an animated film set in 55 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: Korean culture as a Korean person who was born in 56 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: Korea but grew up in North America. It's been surreal 57 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: but also incredible to see our culture just become so cool. 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: It's cheesy, but I think it's true. Growing up, everyone 59 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: knew Chinese and Japanese culture well, but Koreans were not 60 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: even on the map. Now that we are, I feel 61 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: so much pride, and I just wanted to express this 62 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: pride through a film that celebrated our culture. All aspects 63 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: of it. So my biggest inspiration for this film is 64 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: my culture, so gotta love that. And yes, this animation 65 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: has made Netflix history, or so they say. This is 66 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: what they wrote on Twitter. It is the first Netflix 67 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: film ever to reach a new viewing peak in its 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: fifth week of release. Yeah, and this isn't the only 69 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: record so on Netflix in itself. They were talking about 70 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: how they have hit the number one spot later, so 71 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: it kind of grew into hype and it got bigger 72 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: and bigger and bigger as more and more people watched it. Again, 73 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: it isn't the only record they broke. In fact, this 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: is this fake group Hunterricks, which is centered around has 75 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: actually become the highest charting K pop girl group in 76 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: the US Spotify list charts, beating the likes of Black 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: Pink and others along with the Sajo Boys. Again, a 78 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: fake group who became the highest charting K pop boy 79 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: band in US Spotify history, beating even BTS. So apparently 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: BTS only hit number three or I think three with 81 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: Dynamite a few years ago. But yeah, they it has 82 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: outstripped that once again, a fake K pop group as 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: made that kind of history. They've been charting on things 84 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: like the billboard charts and so much more so, they're 85 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: doing a thing. They're doing a thing. The significance of 86 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: this movie has reignited the love and popularity of K 87 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: pop as it is slowly. It's still pretty popular, but 88 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: it's slowly been waning as of late. I see, I think, 89 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: and yes, the cosplay, the costplay is made amazing and 90 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: my my FYP for TikTok has been flooding of people 91 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: doing the costplay and I love every bit of it 92 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: because it looks so good. There is a scene Annie, 93 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: I know, you know, in which they have one of 94 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: the members of Huntres dressing up as a sleeping in 95 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: the sleeping bag for the met gala, and people are like, oh, yeah, 96 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: I finally found the perfect costume. 97 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: I gotta get that comfortable one. 98 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: I love it so much so, but again it also 99 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: has We also get a glimpse of some Korean lore 100 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: and history, including the costuming. The legends of the Saja 101 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: which means lion. Also, uh, there's Saja is kind of 102 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: like a grim reapern which I'm gonna get into a 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: little bit. More women who are shamans and moudane who 104 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: protect and heal the lands even the weapons that we 105 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: see the Hundreds use are historic Korean warrior weapons, including 106 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: the four tiger sword or the sun coom used by Rumi, 107 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: the car curved sword or the Koktou used by Mirah, 108 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: and the spirit knife the Shinkar, which also carries the 109 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: Nori gay, which is connected to feminine spiritual power and traditions. 110 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: They are then nodded with like strings and gems that 111 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: you will often see on hymn books. I actually have 112 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: one about one, but they are very gorgeous and they 113 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: it is kind of a representation of the spiritual and 114 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: femininity of it all, so it has a lot. They 115 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: incorporate quite a bit of the lore. So let's get 116 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: into the plot. The world is in need of protection 117 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: and has been for all of eternity, and those who 118 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: have been called are the Hunters, typically a group of 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: three women with beautiful voices that can call on the 120 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: hun Moon, which is not an actual historical lord. They 121 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: made this up for specifically the movie, just so you know, 122 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: And as a writer from the kidnim draws dot Com explains, 123 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 3: it makes up of two words they think, which is Johan, 124 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: which is the word for soul and spirit, and Moon 125 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: which is commonly the word for door. I think maybe 126 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: it can also be used for gait so spirits door. 127 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: This is a shield that covers and protects the earth 128 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: from the entrances of demons who come to feed on 129 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: the soul of humans. The leader of the world and 130 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: the demons is the great and evil Gwimma, And throughout 131 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: the lifetime, different women have been called to protect and 132 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: become Hunters of the world. For this timeline, specifically, we 133 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: have Hunterrecks, a made up of three women. Rumi a 134 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: nepo baby. She's a baby, but she is a part 135 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: of the lineage, the daughter of a previous hunter and 136 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: leader of the group, and she is the leader of 137 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: huntres Then we have Mirah, an outcast and the lead dancer. 138 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: She's kind of like dark and you know emo ish 139 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: got the attitude. And then we have Zoe, who is 140 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: the adorable writer and rapper from Bourbank, California who's representing 141 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: with them. They have been trained and led by previous 142 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: Hunter Selene, who was in the girl group with Rumy's mother, 143 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: who has this motto, we are Hunters voices strong, your 144 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: falts and fears must never be seen, and they carry 145 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: that to the core to their detriment. Hint Hint Hunters 146 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: has become a huge popsis star success. They've been using 147 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: their music to chill the world and they're really good 148 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: at it. However, we soon find out that Rumy has 149 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: a secret. Her father was a demon, making her part 150 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 3: demon with the patterns that play the demons, so we 151 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: will see that they all have little patterns that mark 152 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: them as demons. Selene teaching Rumy that she must hide 153 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: the patterns from the group and others, and that the 154 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: only solution is to be rid of those patterns, which 155 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: can only be done once the demons are vanquished by 156 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: the Golden han Moon, which is very hard to bring about. Obviously, 157 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: with the release of their newest song, Golden, the hon 158 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: Moon seems to actually start turning gold, which is great, 159 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: and they push the hype of the song in time 160 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: for their upcoming award show, IDOL Awards, which is one 161 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: of the best times to strengthen the han Moon. However, 162 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: the demon in the demon world we seek Weema working 163 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: to try to destroy the Hunters as well as get 164 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: all those souls, and here we're introduced to Genu, who 165 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: comes up with a brilliant plan a demon boy band 166 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: the Saja Boys, and with their introduction, they are a hit, 167 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: and the timing couldn't be worse as Rumy's voice is 168 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: only getting worse as she tries to hide her secret. 169 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: Soon as the battles continue and the Saja Boys are 170 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: gaining popularity, we see the enemy to lovers trope between 171 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: Rumy and Genu, also the deepening mistrust between the girls, 172 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: and an awesome disc track I'm kidding, It's not awesome, 173 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: but it's fun. It's a banger. During the award show, 174 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: Roomy's secret is a revealed, the hon Moon seems to 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: have been destroyed, and the Saja Boys open up the 176 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: hell gates, but we have a heartwarming volume moment with 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: Roomy and the girls which go into an epic battle 178 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: and a new song where Genu sacrifices himself, realizing that 179 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: he needs his soul back and wants to fix things, 180 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: and the hon Moon turns golden and the demons are 181 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 3: driven out as well as Guima Tada. So that is 182 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: essentially the plot for this movie. So there are obviously 183 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: themes you ready. First, before we get into that, Annie, 184 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: what did you think about this this movie? 185 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. I thought it was beautifully animated, 186 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: which is funny to be because I always know you 187 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: don't like animation. I know that was one of the 188 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: things that he took out to me, that it was 189 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: beautifully animated, really interesting in the animation choices. And of 190 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: course a nice good friendship story. 191 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: You love love. 192 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: A good friendship story is so good, it's so bad, 193 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: all right. 194 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: So one of the biggest themes, obviously is the good 195 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: versus evil trope. We have the saja or also known 196 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: against as a chosun saja, which is a grid ripper. 197 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: So there's play all words ha ha ha, who are 198 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: entering here because they realize if song can build a shield, 199 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: what if a song can also break the shield? And 200 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 3: if you go in and listen to their last song, 201 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: be your idol. Yeah. People have had mixed reactions in that. 202 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: I think if I had tried to watch this as 203 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: a kid, if my parents understood what this was, they 204 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't let me watch it because of the demon factor 205 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: because they're like singing Latin. They're singing some chants and 206 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: it's pretty much a curse over the people. 207 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And and Guma is like a big devil 208 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: mouth with that thing. Yeah yeah, but I do think 209 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: that's interesting because you see that before and a lot 210 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: of you know, using the song to ask the spell. 211 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: And I know we've been talking about fandom and K 212 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: pop recently, but I thought that sort of like switch 213 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: from we love Hunterricks to we love the Sajay like 214 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: people are literally like tearing off their shirts. Now I'm 215 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: their fan now. I thought that was a very I 216 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: liked that take on like the fandom and also just 217 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: intertwining that with lore of Korean history, but also this 218 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: idea of like casting that spell. 219 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: Yes, and the fact that that they earned the trust 220 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: so easily by being good looking boy band. 221 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah right. 222 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: And then also if you notice, I liked how like 223 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: at the beginning the Saja boys were really parky, happy, 224 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: respectful in pink like they were definitely playing and to 225 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: like see you we're good people, which is kind of 226 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 3: how you have to build up a lot of K 227 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: pop bands or groups is to be like in almost 228 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: innocent and fantilizing to this point in order for that success. 229 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: Like they literally have a character called Baby Saja who 230 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: throughout the times is just sucking on a bottle. You're like, okay, 231 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: that's a little much in it, a little much, but 232 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: there you go. Yeah, it definitely works. But we do 233 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: have that level of like who's good who's bad, and 234 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: the blurring of those lines. What is evil? Is everyone 235 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: just inherently evil? Obviously demons would you would assume or 236 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: be would be the evil ones. But here we have 237 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 3: Ginu who gives a backstory about the fact that they'd 238 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: be all being punished because of whatever deeds that were. 239 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: I was a little confused because some of these demons 240 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: I don't think were they all humans that once upon 241 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: a time that get taken by demons or they just 242 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: marked and born that way because we see like Roomy 243 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: her father, So what is what is the chicken or 244 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: the egg situation here? But it does bring to the 245 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: point of like canned demons change who are inherently evil 246 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: and so we should want them to die. But it's 247 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: not so black and right. 248 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Listen. I try not to do this all the time, 249 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: but it reminds me of Star Wars. Oh okay, well, 250 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: just the idea of like there's a difference between from 251 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: Star Wars people out there. There's a difference between a 252 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Sith who enjoyed, who chose that, and then someone who 253 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: does evil because they were tortured and created to do that. 254 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: So I think that's like I felt that they were 255 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: similar shades. I would imagine there are similar shades of 256 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: people who kind of chose this thing, people who through 257 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: various reasons maybe fell into it or chose it now 258 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: regret it and to change, and then people who were 259 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: born with it but are fighting against it, Like this 260 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: is those shades or gradations. 261 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: Gradations yes, yes, which also brings me to the story, 262 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: like what is the backstory of Rumy's parents? I feel 263 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: like this might be saved for later. I don't know, 264 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: I will save like megge Kong no longer is with Sony, 265 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: and some of that had to deal with the issues 266 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: of Sony. So we don't know. But we also know 267 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: that corporations are greedy, and we'll be like, yeah, we 268 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: can do it without you. Look at Crazy Rich Asian, 269 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: in which they took a very Asian story written by 270 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: an Asian person and booted out the Asian screenwriter because 271 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: they didn't want to pay enough, but paid a lot 272 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: of money for the white dude. Yeah anyway, but sorry 273 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: not to bring in too many downers. I don't have 274 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: a lot of downers. But all of that to say, 275 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: you know, what is the story? Well, how did a 276 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: demon and a demon hunter get together in the first 277 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: place to create this demon hunter mix? Roumy who has 278 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: a lot of feels and a lot of talent but 279 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: can't hear the voices? 280 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I am so proud of you used 281 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: the enemy's silver tag so easily. I feel like it 282 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: would be something like that. I feel like it would 283 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: be a similar. 284 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: To be fair. That is a k drama tag as well. 285 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure. Oh, it's been around forever. It's a choice. 286 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just in general. So, and then we 287 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: have the kind of the shaman's historically being women or 288 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: mudang who are being historically all mostly women, not all women, 289 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: mostly women are They're very feminine in a lot of 290 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: the representations, but also in Korean culture, you also know 291 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: they're also good and bad shamans as well. There's a 292 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: lot of depth to that. So who is what? 293 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 294 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: Am I right? Also wanted to point out the dirty 295 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: tiger and the magpie, which have deep cultural ties, especially 296 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: in Asian culture in itself. We know that the tiger 297 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: in itself has a huge connotation, but in this narrative, 298 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: the tiger representation is kind of that idea about corrupt 299 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: authority figures, and well that's why they're dirty and just 300 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: like in it for one thing, and very focused or 301 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: really dirty looking and knocking over pots constantly and having 302 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: a battle with bins apparently containers. And the magpie is 303 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: the distinguished right commoners. They're the common people who coming 304 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: in making the city. They're the ones that know the 305 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: right and wrong type of conversation. This is a part 306 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: of a lot of the Korean folk paintings that we'll see, 307 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: and they brought that in and they did it to 308 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: that level, like they made sure to make them distinct. 309 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't just an animated as you said the word 310 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: disneyfied in our famous movie on the World type of look. 311 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: It was specific to keep in tradition with Korean folklore 312 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: and Asian folklore. And I really appreciated that. And people 313 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: love love those two things. They love the tiger more 314 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 3: than the bagpie. And I'm like, why do you keep 315 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: leaving out the magpie? That's important. 316 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm more for the magpie. 317 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: I might I mean, as you should be, yes, you should. 318 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: It doesn't have too many eyes maybe it's all seeing anyway. 319 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: Of course, another part of the themes is friendship. You 320 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: absolutely see the beauty among the three girls who came 321 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: in and was formed together, but really protect and love 322 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: each other and are supposed to be understanding each other 323 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: like that is a part of the growth is knowing 324 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: that even as close as they were, they still have 325 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: all of their insecurities which eat away at them and 326 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: none of them want to admit it. And that was 327 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: part of because of the Saline's bad take, hide the 328 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: fears and fault yeah, slue no no, and they really 329 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: had to undo that to realize this wasn't as healthy 330 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: as they thought, and that meant that trusting each other 331 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: was a big part of their friendship and they had 332 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: to really go through it. 333 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and having that this does kind of remind me, Wow, 334 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: so many of these things are connecting to many recent 335 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: episodes because in the recent book club we did, we 336 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: talked about that of having the moment where you realize 337 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: that there are secrets in the group, or you weren't 338 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: as close as you thought, or maybe what was this 339 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: what I even realized what I thought it was and 340 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: having that moment and then coming back together stronger for 341 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: having that moment. 342 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: Right, admitting, like the song, the final song, we're talking 343 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: about everything is broken. Were liars, but that doesn't mean 344 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: we can't come back and build better. As well as 345 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: like Mira's line, I really just like I don't deserve family. 346 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, you do haunt me. Let 347 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: me picture yeah family. Then we have the like the 348 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 3: Genu Roomy, they never really kissed, but they do have 349 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: that Korean drama touching of the hands. We kind of love, 350 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: a good drama moment. But they are slowly coming together 351 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: and she talks about having to wanting to save him 352 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: as to that, and he's like, you did. Will we 353 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 3: see him back? I don't know. Will there be another one? 354 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 3: I can't imagine Sony's gonna let this one ride as 355 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: successful or Netflix as successful as it was. So but 356 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: who knows? Who knows? Ginu does not have any friends 357 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: except for the Magpie, and the Tiger also becomes Roomy's friends. 358 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: That's a little rough, you know, that's hurtful. I mean, 359 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: you do want your friends to become friends, but there's 360 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: also a part of you that's like, you're my friend, 361 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: You're my only friend. 362 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: Don't be that way another part again his family, and 363 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: we talk about the Chosen family obviously just talking about it. 364 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 3: But then we have Selene who takes on the motherly 365 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: figure adopting Roomy because of the death of the mother, 366 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 3: which we don't know how the childbirth, when she was born, 367 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: she died, So what happened here? Was it the the 368 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: demon part that like, oh, we don't know, we don't 369 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: know that law yet. But Selene doing what she thinks 370 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: she's supposed to and protecting being really Korean in trying 371 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: to protect everybody's reputation and trying society doing her duty 372 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: versus not being very maternal to uh Rumy. So there's 373 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: a lot of questions about that. And then also you 374 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: have to ask because I've seen a few articles pop 375 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: up being like, see Selene was a real villain a 376 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: damn okay. We jumped there real quick, okay, And then 377 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: g knew his selfish decision to leave his family behind 378 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: so he didn't have to starve to death and die 379 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: with them. It was rough. 380 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: That was a that was a rough revelation you got 381 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: later in the movie, and I was like, oh, okay, oh. 382 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: And which when the Waima says you've never done anything 383 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: that wasn't for selfish reasons. 384 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because it's been presented earlier. It is like 385 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: he was forcefully taken away. Yeah, and then you get 386 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the truth of it and it's like, oh, oh no, okay, 387 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: he's like, oh. 388 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 3: B no, it's pretty heartbreaking. 389 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: Uh. 390 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: And then we have in general K pop all throughout 391 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: obviously celebrating that culture, celebrating the music. I think it's 392 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 3: interesting in this portrayal because it really doesn't romanticize pop. 393 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 3: And if you've heard our episodes previously, you know this 394 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: is not the case. You know, there's a lot of damage. 395 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: We know there's a lot of death by suicide, eating disorders, 396 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 3: psychological disorders, money paid backs, surgery, all these things. There's 397 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: a lot of things that happen, a lot of discourse, 398 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: a lot of canceling, not not canceling. However, in this industry, 399 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: and it's pretty fast, Like people go in and there's 400 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: such an inundation of K pop groups that you don't 401 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: see who is successful. Like people don't succeed when they 402 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 3: think you should succeed. Like there are so many levels 403 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 3: to that. A lot of them are put together, they 404 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: are constructed and not organically brought together as in like 405 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: they meet together and form a group. I mean they 406 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: do say that in the beginning of the movie that 407 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: they came they were put together for root me Like, 408 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: they're like, you know, like this, but they just meshed well, 409 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: which isn't always what happens. There's a conversation about what's 410 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: happening in the black Pink like they say that none 411 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: of them are getting along. Of them want to be 412 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: a part of this capop industry anymore, but they're obligated 413 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: to do so because they've been as successful as they are. 414 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: They have their own individual careers and are seemingly more 415 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: invested in that. So there's a lot in that that 416 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: you see that you're like, like the whole mcbong at 417 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: the beginning where they're all carbo loading, I'm like, that's 418 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: not typical to the point that you hear stories about 419 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: other people feeding them rice, like sneaking in rice because 420 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: they hadn't eaten that day. I will say, though, and 421 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: I've mentioned Mama and Move before. My partner has worked 422 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: at production for shows in Atlanta. They came through. He 423 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: worked the show and there was a large request for 424 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: bull Duck Ramyan. Yeah, because they were like, these Korean 425 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: artists were like, no, that's what we need. So they 426 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: had to make a special trip to h Mark to 427 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: bring out all of these spicy ramyans. So not too 428 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: far off then, I guess, because they are a girl 429 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: group that's pretty big in South Carlin in here, not 430 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: as big as some others, but like it was fascinating, like, okay, 431 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: they really do. As for the rum, I thought that 432 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: was just a snack poppy food that became culturally popular 433 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: in the US more so than No No. They apparently 434 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: was like no, I need it, I miss it. There's 435 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: that again. I think I don't want to stray too 436 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: far from the pot, but it is good to know 437 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 3: that it does romanticize this industry a little, to the 438 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: point that it's like there are groups that do write 439 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 3: their own songs, that create their own stuff, and they're amazing, 440 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 3: and we want to give credit to that. That isn't 441 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 3: cool as hell. But a lot of them, again, are manufactured, 442 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: and a lot of them still a lot of music 443 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: I think I've seen this specific movie has at least 444 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: two of the bigger K pop songwriters that are Western, 445 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 3: I want to say, from the US or Canada. And 446 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: they've been based out of here for a long time 447 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: and they don't get paid as much as you I 448 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: would expect as big as some of these songs are. 449 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: The person who sang for Roomy, EJ, is a big 450 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: K pop industry singer and producer and writer. From what 451 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: I understand, she is not in any group, but she 452 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: is a part of SM Entertainment, which is one of 453 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: the top four that we've talked about previously. And the 454 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: others that sing on these songs are also either trainees, 455 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: had been trainees, or writers and producers, so it seems 456 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: so it is an interesting mix. People are getting good 457 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: and EJ can hit those notes down like chilling notes. Anyway, 458 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: moving on, so obviously, another big part of this movie, 459 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: as Kong has actually said herself, is the culture of 460 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 3: South Korea and in the heritage. The mix between southern 461 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: South Korean history that we were talking about with all 462 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 3: the weapons, with all the costumes, with all of the 463 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 3: locations even really mixes well with the modern day Hollywood 464 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: in what we see in dancing and the rapping some 465 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: of the Brahmin once again, which was really funny to me, 466 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: the costuming, the lights, the shows there are Idol shows 467 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: that they happen every week, that whoever chart like tops 468 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 3: the charts goes and performs and does it weekly, which 469 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 3: I'm like, huh that used to be our MTV. 470 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well you know they still do that. 471 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, that's really interesting, but that does exist. 472 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 3: I've seen the countdowns and different things that they do. 473 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: It's really interesting to see and how they celebrate it 474 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: and who does what. And then of course this whole 475 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: cultural thing with uh, you and I talked about it. 476 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: You had said that because I said that I think 477 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: you're going to see a lot of these costumes at 478 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 3: Dragon Con, which I'm very excited about and want to see, 479 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 3: and you were talking about that people have already talked 480 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: about being respectful and the costs. What were you telling 481 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: me exactly? 482 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: So I'm going to clarify. I heard this through a 483 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: friend who's much more online than I am. She told 484 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: me that there had already been an online conversation about 485 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: I think it was specifically the boy band and their 486 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: costuming and being respectful about it and being aware of 487 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: like the history behind it and just not being offensive. Right, 488 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: That's what she said. I'm pretty sure. 489 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: From what I can gather like things like like no 490 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 3: regae that is very specific culturally, but I don't like 491 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: unless you take it and make it like a panties 492 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: or like chastity bail some or so you know, like 493 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: something really obscure, I don't see it being super offensive, 494 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: like even humbucks. Like I know a lot of times 495 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: when people go to South Korea, you can go to 496 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: the stores and that's like period costumes like any of those, 497 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: and visit the old historical places and all of these things, 498 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: and it's actually encouraged. It is something that is beautiful. 499 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: We love to see what we don't want to see, 500 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: what any no one wants to see of any other culture. 501 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: Is taking whatever it may be ceremonial or traditional, misconstruing 502 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: it to be something you created with these ideals and 503 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: then renaming things that is like even to the point 504 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: that we see i want to say Filipino level of ube, 505 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: which has been huge and trending, and then people taking 506 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 3: it being like we needed to be like a sugary, 507 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: I'm a white person who's going to do it this way, 508 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: and you're like, what is happening or along the lines 509 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: of like macha, which is obviously very very big, and 510 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: then white people taking in marketing and be like I 511 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: went to Japan one time and I loved it. So 512 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm creating my own and this is mine and I'm 513 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: up charged. Like stuff like that is absolutely disrespectful loving 514 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: a culture, especially when it's as seemingly ignored as South 515 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: Korean culture and oftentimes the mean or sidelined for like 516 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: China Chinese culture, which by the way, Chinese is a 517 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: huge country, so having one ideal of even that culture 518 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: is almost offensive and ignorant in itself. So like so 519 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: many things said that. But with the Saja Boys, I 520 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: know they are grim Reapers. I don't know if it's ceremonial, 521 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: don't know if it's a funeral where that that might 522 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: be the problem. Of course, if you're wearing something that 523 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: is supposed to be for funerals, is that in your 524 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: par partying in it? That that's disrespectful because like death 525 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: rituals and like ancestry ristrals very very sacred, very very 526 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 3: much so, so stuff like that, Yes, I think you 527 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: need to understand what these are. Again, the Saja Boys 528 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: are a play on grim Reapers, so look into that. Yeah, 529 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 3: we would look into that. But I don't think in 530 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: general like hmbucks and the hats are in general are 531 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: not necessari or the gut are not necessarily disrespectful. If 532 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: you're doing something where that, if you're painting obscene things 533 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: on it, don't do that. Don't do that, don't to 534 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: I would tell you not to pretend to be a 535 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: shaman in any way. Koreans are real can be real 536 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: superstitious on that, and I am too. Not why I'm 537 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: a little so perstigious. I don't want to curse myself 538 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: in general, I think things like that have to be 539 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: looked at as well. Again, like, there's so much to this. 540 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: And I say this as not an expert, as someone 541 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: who has ignored this culture for so long, who's been 542 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: afraid of this culture, who felt like if I even 543 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 3: pretended I like or who we have even like interests, 544 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: that I was pretending. There's so much to this And 545 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: I want to note like watching this movie, getting ready 546 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: to talk about this, talking about why I love it 547 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: as much as I do, because this has become something 548 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: that I've grown to love, Like I've watched this too 549 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: many times, and I was really really hesitant in even 550 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: starting to watch this because it felt kitchy. Also, there's 551 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: still that childhood part of me that really wants to 552 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: be white, because I was brought into white culture, was 553 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: told white is the savior of all and that this 554 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: is the fixer and the best thing to be is white, 555 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 3: and even Korean culture kind of holds to that standard 556 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: as well, and so so part of me feeling like 557 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: seeing this celebrating a culture seemed foreign and almost the 558 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: anti of who I was growing up, I guess. And 559 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: so to find something like this culturally impacting, celebrating, loving, 560 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: not any caricaturish characters like it is, but it is. 561 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: It isn't making fun of a culture. It isn't making 562 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: fun of an accent, It isn't making fun of a saying. 563 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: It isn't making fun of a food. It is like 564 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: all these things which I see way too often, that 565 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: happens way too often, that has to be addressed way 566 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: too often, and being told that I'm being too sensitive, 567 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 3: And then if I can't joke like that, then what 568 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: am I doing with? Like why am I being so sensitive? 569 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: Being constantly being misconstrued as Chinese? And now for the 570 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: first time, everybody's saying, are you Korean? Which is also 571 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: a fear of mine that I'm like, no, but we 572 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: don't want to make that a better thing either or 573 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: more recognizable thing either. We need to understand is a 574 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: vast It's a vast area, and that to be able 575 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: to acknowledge all of all of the different areas and 576 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: appreciate all of the different areas is something that needs 577 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: to happen. But as someone who has ignored and run 578 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: from it for so long, has feared it, has not 579 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: felt good enough for it, has not understood it, has 580 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: felt like acknowledging this culture meant I was disrespecting the 581 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: people who brought like who took me in. I'm putting 582 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: that in quotes. So many of that conversation pops too, 583 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: And I'm wishing, like, had I had something like this 584 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: that celebrated Korean culture like this, what I have been 585 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: less ashamed or less likely to turn away from it, 586 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: or been less hesitant in learning more about it, because 587 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm so far behind in learning something 588 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: that it should be so important to me, like having 589 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: a part of that is my identity feels so again 590 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: too late. And I've kind of had that conversation about 591 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: being too old for some of these things, Whether it's 592 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: connecting with family, connecting with culture, connecting with ideas. There's 593 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: a lot to this, and also having that guilt and 594 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 3: knowing that some of Korean culture, a lot of k 595 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: pop culture, perpetuates racist ideals and stereotypes within things that 596 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: are being oppressed here in the US. There's like this 597 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: bigger picture of this. I have the celebrations, I have 598 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: the desire. I'm so excited to hear this music and 599 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: song and hear Korean and see the hamdbox and see 600 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: the folklore. But at the same time, I feel like 601 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: I am overwhelmed with guilt and ignorance when in trying 602 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: to love and like these things. There's so much to 603 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: this in that level, but also the bigger part of 604 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: me which begged for representation and so clung to things 605 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: like Brandy, who I love and I'm so glad I 606 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: loved her music because she was not white and she 607 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: was she was cast into love. To have a romance 608 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: with an Asian man like that was enough for me 609 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: to love things like Mulan and have to dress up 610 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: like that because I was the only Asian Ish representation 611 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: that I saw as a good thing and as a 612 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: strong thing instead of being a caricature like pretty and 613 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: pink or breakfast at Tiffany's, which mock Asian people in 614 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: general or fetishizes Asian people in general, And so seeing 615 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 3: that and wishing that I had such a representation and 616 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: what would that have made for me, embracing my you know, 617 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: being so young, like being that person and being loving 618 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: the food that I love that brings so much memories 619 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: triggers as well. There was so much in this context 620 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: that seeing them be the center of the story phenomenal. Again, 621 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: when we talked about just as long as we're together, 622 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: aspiration to see any lightness of me was so strong 623 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: because I always felt like a side character, the sidekick, 624 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 3: and not wanting to be first time centered in something 625 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: is beautiful. And again back to the other Happy Hour 626 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 3: episode when it was like, but it feels like it's 627 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: too late, I'm too old for this point of being. 628 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: But there's so so many things that pop through my 629 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: head as I'm watching this, Like it actually has me 630 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 3: tearing up when I watched this cartoon animation, because there 631 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: is something that you can be proud of, like my 632 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 3: skin tone, my eye shape, my speech even isn't foreign, 633 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: isn't weird? Isn't unusual as where in you know, North 634 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: Georgia Mountains, University of Georgia, unless you're a part of 635 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: that click, and there's a click when it comes to 636 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 3: the Asian community. You are the odd one. You are 637 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 3: the one that's singled out when growing up being stared 638 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: at in an all white town because I'm with this 639 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 3: Asian person walking in and people like who is that? 640 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: What is that? And then my mom trying to be 641 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 3: cute and being like no, because you're so cute, and 642 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not why. Let's talk about the elephant 643 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: in the room here, like thank you and all, but 644 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 3: that's a lie and I don't want we need to 645 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: talk about this. So there's so many levels in this 646 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: movie that hit me as an adult Korean woman that 647 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 3: felt embraced but also conflicted. This this has made an impact. 648 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: I will forever think about this as something, especially because 649 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 3: it balanced Western Koreans with a South Korean's Eastern born 650 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: Eastern Asian people who are like, wow, okay, this feels familiar, 651 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 3: as opposed to watching k jamas, where it feels still 652 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: foreign or a dream state, like things look familiar but 653 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: as if I jumped them versus this being like, okay, 654 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 3: it is today and now that I'm more familiar with 655 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 3: with a mix of Western depiction, I guess is the 656 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 3: best way to say it without being whitewashed, which is 657 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: the other part to that. And with that, I think 658 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 3: when we talk about these types of shows, I also 659 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 3: have this fear that this could be a whitewashing of 660 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 3: Asian characters when you have voices that supposed to be 661 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 3: Asian and it's not Asian. That is the biggest disappointment 662 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: m h that I can ever think of. I'm like, 663 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 3: why would they do this when you had characters that's 664 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: supposed to be Asian. They're like, we're gonna make it white. 665 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 3: They look, they have a little bit of slant in 666 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 3: their eyes. They think it possibly mixed scarlet let. Johansen 667 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: is not Asian. I will fight you the day we die, 668 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 3: you know, But that level like of that whitewashing. There's 669 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: this conversation of the Newest Broadway musical and which was 670 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 3: written for uh in Korean standard and has half white people, 671 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 3: which is what it is, but then they're talking about 672 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 3: it being cast fully white. Now and the argument which 673 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: I've had argue to me about how well you know, 674 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 3: Koreans take white shows and make it Korean. Why can't 675 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: we do that here? But like, but Korean Americans exist, 676 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 3: this is not there's no more like the differentiation is huge, 677 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: and to be fair, I also think it's funny when 678 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 3: I see k dramas like depicting white people as all 679 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: Americans and you can tovily tell their accent is like 680 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 3: Russian or German and you're like that they are absolutely 681 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 3: not from the US, but good try. I like that 682 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: there are moments like that when you have like an understanding, 683 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: like you don't understand well it means to have representation 684 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 3: because you've always had it and you never had to 685 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 3: think about whether or not it wouldn't be it wouldn't 686 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: be there. And then with that all by the way 687 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 3: they did have I love that they mixed the casts 688 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 3: so it was both Korean Americans, Korean Western Korean people 689 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: who maybe in from Canada whatever whatnot to also having 690 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 3: Korean actors South Korean actors. So we had ardent Cho 691 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: who was she was done dirty on couple of c 692 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: W shows and I'm glad to see her make it 693 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 3: into this. We have Daniel da Kim who is an 694 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 3: icon and heart throb and hello, how are you? My 695 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 3: name is Smantha, come see me? Who got to be 696 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 3: a small minor role. And then we have Kim Jong 697 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: we all know who he is. He is a comedian 698 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 3: who is the doctor who's he exists? Then we have 699 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: the Korean stars lie Byong Huin, who is one of 700 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: the ones I was talking about. He has a sketchy past, 701 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: really sad because he is huge in both Squid Games 702 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 3: and this, but they are very easily dismissive of sexual 703 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 3: harassment allegations and charges. We have Anho soap, which I've 704 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: talked about him before because he was one of my 705 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 3: first like interactions with K drama. They're like, I like 706 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 3: the oh, who is this guy who is Canadian? Actually 707 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 3: he was born in Canada but has been in South 708 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 3: Korea and has made a huge name for himself as 709 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 3: a South Korean K drama actor. So he has a 710 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: bit of an accent, which I think is kind of 711 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 3: funny to me to see is Canadian, but because I guess, 712 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 3: I guess he's been in South Korea so long that 713 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 3: it sounds like it like English is a second language, 714 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 3: which I don't believe it is but he who plays 715 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 3: Genu is also was a training and then decided to 716 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 3: act in model. They didn't use his voice though for 717 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 3: most of the songs it was a different Andrew Troy 718 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 3: I believe is his name is the one who ends 719 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: up singing for him, and he was a writer in 720 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 3: Traineese well, but having him in there in one of 721 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: my FAVORITEK drama's business proposal. I've talked about this one 722 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: before and they actually have that little name like theme 723 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: song cop in this is an easter egg when he 724 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 3: walks in. When you introduce to Genu as human four 725 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: is like that, and I'm like, I love a good 726 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 3: throw it like little secrets that we know one of them. 727 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, so I loved everything about that. Having actual 728 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 3: celebrities or stars or actors who are in that world, 729 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 3: who have been dismissed for so long to be able 730 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: to be a part of that success. I love every 731 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 3: bit of that. And representation that we've been begging for. 732 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 3: That I've been begging for that. People who want to 733 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 3: see more of their ethnicity, their community being represented. That's 734 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: what we're begging for, the more of that. Please. It 735 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 3: doesn't take much and it's a huge success. A huge success. Also, 736 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 3: we had a small moment with Selene singing, So the 737 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 3: actress who played that did not sing. It was Leah Salanga, 738 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 3: the Filipino icon and queen of Broadway that I've spoken 739 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 3: previously when we talked about BBS and Ley Miz and 740 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 3: again me clinging to any type of representation as a child, 741 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 3: she had a little minor row and I hope if 742 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 3: they do have a backstory, that we get to have 743 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: a longer edition of her musical talents because we need those, 744 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 3: we need that in our lives. Yeah, thank you for 745 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 3: going on this journey with me. There's so much to this. 746 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 3: I want to talk more about this. I want to 747 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: see more things like this. I hope that there is 748 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 3: a sequel that Kang is a part of, and if any, 749 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 3: because I feel like we've talked about how we think 750 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 3: that some of the studios may be listening to us 751 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 3: and taking our ideas or suggestions. If you are listening 752 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 3: and counting is not on there, we're going to be upset. 753 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, we'll talk about it. Correct, that's right, you 754 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: watch out, big studio. Yes, I'm sure we'll come back 755 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: and talk about this more. I will definitely report after 756 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: Dragon Con. Yes, well, I see some pictures, I will 757 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: I'll try to do better. I'm not great at taking 758 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: pictures that i will do. If I see them, I'll 759 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: think of you and I'm be. 760 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 2: Like, Okay. 761 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: But I know that people are loving this and I'm 762 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: sure many of you have plenty of thoughts about it, 763 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: So please right in if you would like to, we 764 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: would love to hear from you. You can email us 765 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: at Hello at Stephanever Told You dot com. You can 766 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: find us on Blue skyp Mobster podcast or on Instagram 767 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: and TikTok at stuff I Never Told You or also 768 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: on YouTube, and we have a book you can get 769 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: wherever you get your books. Thanks always to our super 770 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: producer was Senior executive Brus my aunt our contutter Joey. 771 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: Thank you and thanks to you for listening. Stefan Never 772 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: Told You is projected by heart Radio. For more podcasts 773 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: from my heart Radio, you can check out the heart 774 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: Radio app Apple Podcasts wherever you listen to your favorite shows.