1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin, and 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us for another episode. And Dad, 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: we are recording this on Memorial Day, obviously a very 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: important day to remember those who sacrifice their lives for 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: this country. And Dad, it brings me back to what 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: a great episode we had last year surrounding Memorial Day. 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: We had Lindsey Bearra on who's the granddaughter of Yogi 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Bearra who served this great country. And she also is 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: heavily involved in what Yogi Berra, the Yogi Barra Museum 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: and Learning Center, is doing to help out kids. And 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: that was such a great interview. So if you're new 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: to the podcast and you want to jump back to 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: season one, highly recommend it. So everything we talked about 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: is still relevant to today. 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: And remember, Lindsay made us laugh and she also made 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: us cry a year ago. And when she talked and 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: we asked about her grandfather talking about serving, she said 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: he didn't talk very much about it. It was because 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: it was so powerful and it was so important that, 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: like so many other veterans who served, they choose not 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: to speak about this. But that's why it's important for 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: us to speak about it, just so those are remembered, 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: those who served, and especially those who died in the 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: line of service. 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are visiting Arlington 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Cemetery in Washington, d C. Among many other amazing veterans cemeteries. 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: And Dad, you're both of your parents are buried at 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Arlington Cemetery. Now, your dad, my grandfather Pop didn't die 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: in the line of duty, but he did serve this country, 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: and now they're laid to rest there, which I think 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: is so incredible. And having visited there now as an 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: adult a few times, it's a powerful place. 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: It really is. And my dad never spoke about his 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: and again, he was never really in combat, but he 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: was overseas when D Day happened, so you can actually 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: say he was there. And my father loved to joke 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: around at about a lot of things, but he didn't 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: talk much about that because we all knew how important 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: that was in the history of our country. 41 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right, there's nothing here, Dad. My grandfather 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't have fun with He was the guy who when 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: the power went out at his own eightieth birthday party 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: because we had overloaded all of the power at the house. 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: He started singing himself so that the party wouldn't stop 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: when the music cut out, because that's just the guy 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: he wants. 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw him sing by himself an awful lot 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: of times, Jeff. He saved more parties. You know how, 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: there's stories about people who could empty a room faster 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: than anyone. My father could fill a room faster than anyone, 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: whether it was with a joke or a song or something. 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: We missed him him terribly twenty three years later. 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. So to those who serve, those 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: families who continue to serve, and those who lost their 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: lives in the line of service, thank you. Thank you 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: so much. We're always thinking about you. 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Dad. 59 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: We've got a guest that's going to be joining us today, 60 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: a kind of a similar to Frank from the Elias 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: when he joined us. Because this is a secret guest 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: and I'm going to keep it a secret for the 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: very end of the episode. But let me just say, 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: if you know our show, if you know Tim and 65 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Kirkshon, if you know where my dad went to 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: high school, and just for the record, we don't have 67 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Walter Johnson joining the show. Okay, he died eighty years. 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: Ago, so he died on my birthday, December tenth, nineteen 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: forty six. I was born on December tenth, nineteen fifty six. 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: So now we've given away that this has to do 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: something with Walter Johnson. 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he will not be him. Okay, he couldn't 73 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: make it, and even if he was around, he would 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: be one hundred and thirty five years old and I 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: think at this point he probably couldn't figure out the technology. 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: But anyway, nonetheless, we have a special guest surrounding all 77 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: of that, Dad, So I'm really excited that we got 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: to set that up, So stay tuned for that. Now, Dad, 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: let's jump into the takeaways with something very deeply personal 80 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: for you. So before we fully jump into what the 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: teams are doing across Major League Baseball, I think a 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: big takeaway has to do with some sad news. 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: Right. My dear friend Jim Henneman, one of the best 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: baseball writers of all time, passed away this week. Henny, 85 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: as we call him, is one of the great writers 86 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 2: I've ever met, and Jeff, I've told people this before. 87 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: No writer that I have ever met understood the playing 88 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: of the game better than Jim Henneman. What I mean 89 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: by that, he could sit in the press box and 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: he could tell you that's an elite slider. That guy 91 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: got a great jump on that ball. That guy made 92 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: a great play to his right. Now hard that play 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: is to make a lot of writers can't see that stuff. 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: Nobody saw it better than Jim Henneman. And Henny knew 95 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: that stuff in part because he was a really good 96 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: player in his day, a little crafty, little left hander 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: who pitched on a lot of different levels. So Jeff, 98 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: we played I love this. We played a couple of 99 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: media games at Wanted Memorial Stadium in Baltimore and the 100 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: other cand Yards in Baltimore, and of course Henny played 101 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: in both of them, and someone actually got He's pitching 102 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: in his mid fifties. He might even have been sixty 103 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: at the time, and he was getting people out because 104 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: he was still really good. So somebody got on base. 105 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: Jim Hennemon picked him off with I think the greatest 106 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: pickoff move I've ever seen, better than the left handers 107 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: on the Baltimore Orioles. A guy got on He's granted 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: it was a writer, and he picked him off. I 109 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: will never forget that. That was Jim Henneman. And of 110 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: course Henny came to a bunch of your school plays 111 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: in high school. 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: Agreed, Yeah, that was one of the coolest things. And 113 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: you guys had such a great relationship. 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he came to. 115 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Guys and Dolls and to the wedding singer and it 116 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: was really neat to always see him there supporting something 117 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: that I was doing, and I really appreciated it. I'm 118 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: glad he wasn't a theater critic, though, because he is 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 1: a great writer, he might have tore some performances apart 120 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: just kidding. He would never do that, but nonetheless, it's funny. 121 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Dad. 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: When I moved to the Philadelphia area, one of the 123 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: first people I actually had a chance to meet was 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: his nephew. His nephew Tom runs Federal Donuts. He owns 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Federal Donuts here in the area. And the very first 126 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: thing he said to me was, Hey, my uncle is 127 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Jim Henneman. And he said, Henny, who I've known my 128 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean my whole life. I don't know a day 129 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: in my life that I didn't know Henny. And I 130 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: just thought it was really cool, new job, new area. 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: This is about three years ago when we moved here 132 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: and one of my first fast friends with somebody who 133 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: not only knows Henny is related to him, it's his uncle. 134 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: Right, and of course Jeff. They named the press box 135 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: at Oriel Park after Jim Henneman. I was there that 136 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: day when when they named the park the press box. 137 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: It was an emotional, powerful moment. Henny was really really 138 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: touched by that and Jeff. Two days before he died, 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: I went to see him in the hospital and I 140 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: sat with him for an hour, and even though he 141 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: was clearly dying, he held my hand for an hour 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: and the grip he's still on his hat in his 143 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: hand was just amazing to me. And he could barely speak. 144 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: But like the last thing that he said to any 145 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: of us in the room was I just wish I 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: could go back there one more time. Meant Jeff was 147 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: the ballpark because Jim Henneman's life took place in a 148 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: ballpark as a player, as a spectator, but mostly a 149 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: member of the media. So rest in peace, my dear friend, 150 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: Jim Henneman. 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Dad, let's jump in Major League Baseball Takeaways. You know, 152 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: we do episodes three days a week, so these Tuesday 153 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: episodes are just chopped full of great stuff going on 154 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. 155 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: What do you have? Yeah, a bunch of things happened 156 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: this week. The Red Sox called up Marcelo Meyer, who's 157 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: one of their three great prospects. Of course, Christian Campbell 158 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: has made the club out of spring training. Meyer came 159 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: up when Alex Bregman went down with an injury, and 160 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: Meyer played third base first couple games. He's mostly a shortstop, 161 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: but he can also play third. It's only a matter 162 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: of time before Roman Anthony comes up, and then they'll 163 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: have their three big name minor league players in the 164 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: big leagues, and that's a really bright future for the 165 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: Red Sox. I remember talking to Marcelo in spring training. 166 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: By the way, the only player in major league history, 167 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: Jeff with the first name Marcelo. How about that? What 168 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 2: a distinction that is. I asked him if he played 169 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: other sports, because he's a big guy, six three, one 170 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety pounds, left handed hitter, has power, really 171 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: smooth and shortstop, and I was surprised to hear he 172 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: played water polo. He was a goalie in water polo. 173 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: On Jeff, you being the worst swimmer of all time. 174 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: You might be the worst. You would be the worst 175 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: water polo player ever. Right, I'm your second worst, I think. 176 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Well, they people don't realize. I mean, I'm sure a 177 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: lot of people realize. But they're treading water the entire time. 178 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: They're not standing up there. They have to tread and 179 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: the goalies are just like treading. I don't how long Dad, 180 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: right now, age sixty eight, could you tread water before 181 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: you would need to be rescued? 182 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: Genuinely? 183 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: No floating on your back. It's not floating on your back. 184 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: This is treading water, you know, moving your hands in 185 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: and out, kicking your legs underneath. How long do you 186 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: think you could do that? 187 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: Well, Jeff, is a or life or death, because if 188 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna drown, I could tread water for a good 189 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: minute and a half if I was gonna drown. No, 190 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm not good at treading water. I'm not a terrible swimmer. 191 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: But that's in short distances, not long distances. All right, 192 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: it's enough for swimming, Jeff, Please, all right, Trek Scooble 193 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: of the Tigers, you have a note on this? Is 194 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: that correct? Trek Scooble of the Tigers through a shutout. 195 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: He threw ninety four pitches and struck out thirteen. Jeff, 196 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: you know how hard it is to strike out thirteen 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: batters on ninety four pitches. You know what that is. 198 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: That's complete domination. You're not just striking people out, you're 199 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: striking about on three pitches. So what is your note 200 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: on that? 201 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Because you said that he sent he sent the major 202 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: league record for most strikeouts with thirteen by a pitcher 203 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: with ninety nine pitches or fewer in that game. Now, 204 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: the reason why I sent this to you, Dad was 205 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: not actually because of the takeaway. It was because of 206 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: how it was written. This is how it was written. 207 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Sent to my buddy by John Gay, who lives in 208 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: Detroit and has become a you know, he grew up 209 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: a Red Sox fan, grew up in the New England area, 210 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: but now he loves rooting for the Tigers too, because 211 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: hometown team now so by a pitcher in a complete 212 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: game shutout, that's what it says. 213 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: Well, Jeff, a lot of people say complete game shutout. 214 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: I think it's redundant. He pitched a shutout, that's it. 215 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: But I talked to Frank at the Elias and double 216 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: check this note, So the last pitcher to strike out 217 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: thirteen or more in any start with under one hundred 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: pitches was Clayton Kershaw, who did that in twenty seventeen. 219 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: But he won that game five to two. But Jeff, 220 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: you got to remember the Elias is the official scorekeeper, 221 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: so we have to go, at least on this show 222 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: by what they say. And Frank told me we can 223 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: only go back twenty to twenty five years on pitch counts, 224 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: and there were you know, there were a lot of 225 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: shutouts with thirteen or more strikeouts prior to nineteen forty. 226 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: We're not gonna be able to go back and check those. 227 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: None of this is important. What's important is Trek Scooble 228 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: is the best pitcher in baseball. And he threw another 229 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: gem the other day, and again, Jeff, his first complete 230 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 2: game of his career, which is so good. Remember Blake 231 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: Snell won two cy Youngs before he completed a game. 232 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: Terrek Scooble won one cy Young and got his first 233 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: complete game. 234 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: I want to apologize for looking at my phone during that. 235 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: Trek schoobl note, I had to check in to a 236 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: Southwest flight and you know, if you're not on there 237 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: right when you fight, it's twenty four hours before you're 238 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna end up in the sea group. You're in C group. Jeff, 239 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: you're dead, middle C, You're done dead. I landed B 240 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: twenty eight and B seven. 241 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's okay. If you're in the b's you can 242 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: get a window or an aisle seat. 243 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: Well, here's the other thing. Here's the hack. So I'm 244 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: flying to Las Vegas for my radio job because our show, 245 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: The Andy Summer Show with Jeff Kirkshandanie and Shannon is 246 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: played in Philadelphia's where we're based out of. We're played 247 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: in Boston, played in Las Vegas on my old radio 248 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: station I used to do country radio for While we're 249 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: flying out there, Dad, and I'm bringing McKinley. 250 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: With me on a work trap. Oh so you have 251 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: your one year old daughter with you and you're in 252 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: the bees and. 253 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean the Bees. But because of her, I will 254 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: now be able to board just after the A group 255 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: and the family boarding. Right, not the only reason why 256 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I tried her actually done this. 257 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: I travel with you and your sister alone many times 258 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: you were one, Kelly was three, did it many times alone. 259 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: First thing you ask is how crowded is the flight, 260 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: the pack flight, you're done. But if they say it's opening, 261 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: it's kind of open here and there, then you go 262 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: find a place where no one else will want to sit. 263 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: Then you can have privacy. 264 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so thankfully we're going to place her in the 265 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: middle seat. I have a coworker who's offered to be 266 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: the window or aisle opposite me. And no one's gonna 267 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: want to sit next to a baby. I mean, it's 268 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the greatest deterrence of all time. And so I'm flying 269 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: for the first time with McKinley. She'll be two in August, 270 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: and so that's happening the day this releases. This is 271 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: happening on Tuesday, Dad, So I'm a little nervous. However, 272 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: I want to take this moment to tell you the 273 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: greatest airplane story of my life. Okay, I was on 274 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: a Southwest Airlines flight. For those who don't know, it's 275 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: pick your own seat based upon your boarding number. Right, 276 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm in the window, a woman is in the aisle seat. 277 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: She's an Indian woman, right, and right as we board, 278 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: she pops open a tupperware container with Indian food, and Dad, listen, 279 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: Like I grew up with a lot of Indian friends. 280 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: I've been over to their houses. I enjoy their parents cooking. 281 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: But Indian food has a very specific, strong smell, and 282 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: people walk by, people walk by. I'm not kidding, Dad. 283 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: There was one empty seat on this flight. It ended 284 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: up between me and this woman right because as soon 285 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: as they closed the boarding door, we have loaded. Everybody's 286 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: in their seats. So that's good going. She turns. She 287 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: hasn't said a word to me. She turns and looks 288 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: at me and says, works every time, closes it and 289 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: puts it back in her bag. 290 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: She scared someone off with the smell of Indian food. 291 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: She was just sitting there, eating a little bit here 292 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: and there, and she looks at me and goes works 293 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: every time. She Dad, she must have been sixty five 294 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: seventy years old, and like she she knew and she 295 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: did it on purpose. And now, of all of the 296 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: seats on the plane, only one empty one, and it 297 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: was the one next to us. We didn't say a 298 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: word to each other. After I smiled, I laughed and 299 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: I said that's great, and then I fell asleep the 300 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: whole flight. 301 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: So that is genius. And by the way, the reason 302 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: we had two children is so I didn't have to 303 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: sit next to anybody on the subway. Did you know 304 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: that that's the only you were born, Jeff, so I 305 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: would have somebody to my left in my right since 306 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: you were the second born. All right, enough, appreciate that. 307 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: All right, that was a really big aside, all from 308 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: me checking into my flight. Continue with the takeaways, please, 309 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: all right. 310 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: So the Padres went oh for thirty nine with runners 311 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: in scoring position recently, Padres are a good team, hit 312 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: a bad stretch. I was surprised to hear the Cubs 313 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: went oh for forty three in twenty twenty two. Jeff, 314 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: oh for thirty nine, oh for forty three runners in 315 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: scoring position. That's that's pretty amazing to me. This is 316 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: amazing too. Ronald Lacuna Junior made his first appearance of 317 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: the season. You know, he's coming back from a terrible 318 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: knee injury, and the first pitch he saw he hit 319 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: for a home run. First pitch he saw on the 320 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: way back. The last Brave to hit a home run 321 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: on the first pitch that he saw in a season 322 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: was Famous Brave from the podcast last year. Jeff was it? 323 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Frank core. 324 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think he did it. With a high 325 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: ankle sprain, which makes it even more amazing. Only really 326 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: close followers of the show would understand that. And last thing, 327 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: Jeff taylor Ward is good major league hitter for the Angels. 328 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 2: Got an extra base hit in ten straight games, so 329 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: that set of club record. Darren Erstadt had the previous 330 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: club record with nine, which means that taylor Ward, I repeat, 331 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: good major league hitter did something that Mike Trout never did. 332 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: Sho Heyo Tani never did, had an extra base hit 333 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: in ten straight games. How great is that? 334 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: This is what makes our game so different. You know, 335 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: the sixth man is not setting scoring records in the 336 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: NBA right, only. 337 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: Here, precisely, And that's why we love baseball so much, 338 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: the most unpredictable sport ever. 339 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, let's jump into our quirk Gins. What 340 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: do you have for this week? 341 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: Well, the Blue Jays beat the Padres fourteen to nothing 342 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: this week, So Jeff, that is the second fourteen to 343 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: nothing game played in the major leagues this year. And 344 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: if you remember the first one, I pointed out, the 345 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: last time an NFL game was play fourteen to nothing 346 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: was two thousand and eight. So the last time before 347 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: that was nineteen ninety eight. So we have had as 348 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: many fourteen to nothing games this year in the major 349 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: leagues as we've had in the NFL in the last 350 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: thirty seven years. Should that surprise us or not? Or 351 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 2: is it so easy to score with the new rules 352 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: in the NFL now and the kickers are so good? 353 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: You really got to be bad to be shut out? 354 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 2: Is that the point? 355 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: Well, I think you really got to be bad to 356 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: be shut out. But also it's not uncommon, right, you 357 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of zeros on an NFL scoreboard, 358 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: but still, I mean there's been some pretty crappy teams 359 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: out there last couple of years. 360 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you would know, I understood, Okay, Jansen junk of 361 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: the unfortunate name for a pitcher. Unless we came out 362 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: with a couple of weeks ago of the Marlins had 363 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: a five inning save, which is unusual. Jev Austry Austin 364 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: Pruitt did that in eighteen and the only other one 365 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: in this century was Joaquing Benoit in two thousand and two. 366 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: So when you see a five inning save, it's only 367 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: happened three times in this century. I love stuff like that, 368 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: and I really this is what I checked for every day, 369 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: Jeff in the box scores which I devour with two 370 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: dietmund dues up to two diet Mound dues at five 371 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: point thirty in the morning. Now is the reverse triple double. 372 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 2: Two strikeouts, two errors, two grounded and double plays in 373 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: one game. Trent Grisham has had a good year for 374 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: the Yankees. Had two strikeouts, two gidps, but no error. 375 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 2: So the only player still who has ever had a 376 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: reverse triple double was Kurt Vivaqua, infielder for the Rangers 377 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy eight. That's the kind of stuff that 378 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: I check every single day. And when you see two gidps, 379 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: which is hard to do, I always always make sure 380 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: I look to see if he had two strikeouts and 381 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: two errors. Trent Grisham, two strikeouts, no errors. Good for him. 382 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: I got to give a shout out to my guy, 383 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Jeff Jurgenty. He messaged us from our website great game 384 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: or what dot com He found a matchup that I 385 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: also found Dad today recording on Monday May twenty six, 386 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: Memorial Day, the starting pitching matchup between the New York 387 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Mets and the Chicago White Sox. Yeah, did you clock this? 388 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: One. I'm not sure, scoop me. 389 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: Please play Holmes right against Adrian Hauser. Holmes hows close. Yeah, yeah, 390 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: now you're disappointed. You're disappointed, wretch. 391 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. If reliever Tony Watson had started the game, believe me, 392 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 2: I was all over that. Just I saw Holmes and 393 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: I said, too bad. There isn't a Holmes and Watson 394 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: pitching against each other, because then that would be a 395 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: real mystery of a game. 396 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Huh, okay, Holmes and howser. I'm gonna give it to him, 397 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: all right, give it to him. 398 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: Of course, he's on the show. He deserves it. He 399 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: took time to look it up. He's starting to go 400 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: not a great by the way. And last thing, speaking 401 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: of names, Jeff we had Luke Weaver and Luke Jackson. 402 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: That's the Yankees against the Rangers. Both were the pictures 403 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: of record in a game last week. The first time 404 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: ever that a Luke and a Luke were both pictures 405 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: of record in the same game. 406 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Wow, that is pretty impressive. It brings up my favorite 407 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: family of all time. You know, the Peterson family, dads 408 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: across the street from us. I always thought the names 409 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: of their children, especially mostly their boys, was the funniest 410 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: thing of all time. Doctor Peterson's name Mark, right, Their 411 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: oldest son, Matthew, their youngest son, Luke. They have another son. 412 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: You're best friend, one of my closest friends in the world. 413 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: So you've got Mark, You've got Matthew, You've got Luke. 414 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: What should his name be? John, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Nope, 415 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: his name is Kyle. And I remember asking him a 416 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, like, what was the thought process there? 417 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: We do we not want all four gospel names here? 418 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? And did they just not think you 419 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: fit the John name, the biblical name. I don't know 420 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: all of your brothers, Timothy, Matthew, Andrew all biblical names, right. 421 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: We were considering naming you a biblical name, Jeff, mine 422 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: was Serpent, but it just turned out it was a 423 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 2: mom said no, which was probably a good idea. We 424 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: really need to move on from this too, Jeff. Too 425 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: many sidetracks. I love the people names. 426 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: We've done a whole lot of Bible stuff with Chicago 427 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Pope right, right, he's a baseball fan, so a lot 428 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: a lot of religion in season two of It's just 429 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: a great game or what. So we'll jump right into 430 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: on this date in baseball history, Dad May the twenty seven. 431 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: Right on this date, Terry Collins was born. Former Major 432 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: League manager for several teams. Love Terry Collins one of 433 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: the most honest guys I've ever met. So when he 434 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: was the manager of the Astros, the owner of the 435 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: team was Dray McClain, who ran a food service industry 436 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: and was like the owner of the Astros. So Drake 437 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 2: McClain was very much in on inspiring the players. So 438 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: when the team was in a slump, he asked his 439 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: manager Terry Collins to watch the movie Twelve o'clock High 440 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: starring Gregory Peck, and it was an attempt to get 441 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: him motivated about getting his own players motivated. So Terry 442 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: Collins watched the movie Twelve o'clock High and reported to 443 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: the owner afterwards he said, you know that Gregory Peck 444 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: cracks in the movie and he can't get in the 445 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: plane at the end of the movie. You know that. 446 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 2: And Drake McClain said, well, are you gonna crack at 447 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: Terry Collins? The manager said, no, I'm not gonna crack 448 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: and Dray McLain again food service industry, also sent Terry 449 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: Collins to Chicago from Houston to do a speech to 450 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: a bunch of convenience store workers, fifteen thousand of them, 451 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: to try to motivate them. So Terry Collins is in 452 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: his astro's uniform and he's talking to all the convenience 453 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: store fifteen thousand of him, and he goes, I'm not 454 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: sure if I got through to them, but here I 455 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: am talking to fifteen thousand people about chilly and he said, 456 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: I did the best I could as a major league manager. 457 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Terry Collins also has a podcast, dad The Terry Collins Show, 458 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: and he's in season two of his podcasts, just like 459 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: we are. 460 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: The former major league manager. Yeah, we gotta have him on. 461 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: He is a He is hilariously funny and a very 462 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: good manager in his day. 463 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: You can see The Terry Collins Show wherever you get 464 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: your podcast, just like we do, presented by Tunnel to 465 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: Towers Foundation. I saw something come up on my social 466 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: media about it, So we'll have to get him on 467 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: and do a little cross promote. Maybe he'll have you 468 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: on the podcast ad that would be pretty neat on 469 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: his love. 470 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: Terry Kahn on This Date, Frank Thomas and Jeff Bagwell 471 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: were both born on the same day in nineteen sixty eight, 472 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: and they both won the MVP in the major leagues, 473 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: one of the nationally one of the American League in 474 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, only time that the MVP has won 475 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: by two guys who shared a birthday, both Hall of famers, 476 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: two of the greatest first basemen of all time. 477 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: That's really neat. 478 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: I didn't realize, right. And speaking of first baseman, Bill 479 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: Buckner sadly died on this date in two thoy nineteen. 480 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: Let's be clear, Jeff bill Buckner was a very underrated 481 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: baseball player, had more hits than Ted Williams, and as 482 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: I've told you multiple times, Jeff never struck out three 483 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: times in a Major league game. So those people who 484 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: remember Bill Buckner for one error that he made in 485 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: the World Series, which was not an easy play, I'm 486 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: still not sure he gets Mookie Wilson at first base 487 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: on that if everything is done cleanly, including the shovel 488 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: to the pitcher covering first. Let's always remember Bill Buckner. 489 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: Really good player died. 490 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: On this date in twenty nineteen, and funny connected in 491 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: a way to Hank Aaron's seven hundred and fifteenth home run. 492 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: We learned I learned earlier this year was that he 493 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: was playing was it left field? Old field? Yes, he 494 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: was playing left field when the ball went over his 495 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: head to be the seven hundred and fifteenth home run 496 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: to make Hank Aaron the home run King. And he 497 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: was yelling at he was yelling at our guest Tom House, 498 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: Tom House, thank you, saying throw me the ball, I'll 499 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: run it in. And he said, no way, am I 500 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: throwing somebody else this ball right now? Tom House ran 501 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: it in. He was a guest for us on that 502 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: date in which the seven hundred and fifteenth home run 503 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: was hit that episode earlier in the season, So check 504 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: that out if you want. Dad. We have a lot 505 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: coming up next, including a very special team tim which 506 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: has to do with our special guest, and then we're 507 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: going to tell you a little bit about who's joining 508 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: us tomorrow on the podcast, which I'm really looking forward to. 509 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: It's all coming up next on is this a Great 510 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: Game or what? Welcome back to Is this a great 511 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: game or what? And we told you at the beginning 512 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: of the show that we had a special guest joining us. 513 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: And if you know our show, you probably have been 514 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: beat over the head with it that my dad went 515 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: to Walter Johnson High School. And this past weekend Walter 516 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: Johnson High School won the Maryland State championship and we 517 00:27:52,960 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: have coach Steve Sutherland. He has the trophy in the video. Congratulations, 518 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: this is amazing. 519 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. 520 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. This hasn't left my side much. The only time 521 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: I leaves my side is when my son takes it 522 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 3: to I think he slept with it the first night. 523 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: So it was pretty exciting. 524 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: Sixty eight year history of Walter Johnson High School never 525 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: won a. 526 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: State championship in baseball, right, I mean this is the 527 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: first time, right. 528 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 3: That's what I'm hearing. I didn't. I mean I've been 529 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: there the last eleven ten if you count ten or 530 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: eleven with COVID. I don't know how you addressed that one, 531 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: but uh, yeah, no, that's that's what I'm hearing. I 532 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: know that there's no banners in the gym, and there 533 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: was no regions or any of that. So it was, uh, 534 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: you know, we've been knocking on the door for a 535 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: while and we're just happy to finish the deal. 536 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: Well, coach, does it mean a little bit more to 537 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: you that you won a state championship at a high 538 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: school named after the greatest picture of all time. 539 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: It's funny because when when I was talking to the 540 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: assistant principal after the game, who was in on my interview, 541 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: he reminded me that I said, why shouldn't this school 542 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: be one of the top ones in the whole state 543 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: or county? It's named after Walter Johnson. And I don't 544 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: remember saying that, but I believe him. 545 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: That's a good talking point for an interview. 546 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 547 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and coach, you won on a walk off. I mean, 548 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: you've played, and you've coached, and you've done a lot 549 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: of stuff before, but where does that rank in your 550 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: baseball career as far as I mean? That was a 551 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: stunning finish, correct, Yeah. So we won. 552 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: Our first game of the playoffs was we had to 553 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: buy and we played BCC and had to walk them 554 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: off in the bottom of the seventh, and then we 555 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: went on to win the next three ten zero against Whitman, 556 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: who was, you know, our region rival, and then Reservoir 557 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: had two Division one arms. We wound up beating them 558 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: ten nothing. We had a really good ace this year 559 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: and Nolan Ross and uh I actually I don't know 560 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: if you guys know this, but I live in Urbana, 561 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: so it made it that much more special, awkward, whatever 562 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: you want to call it. I had all these people 563 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: in the neighborhood with signs up saying go Urbana and 564 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm sitting there. My son plays for Urbana Hawks TENU baseball. 565 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 566 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 567 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: And we had practice on Thursday and and they were 568 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: like Hawks on three. I'm like, can't you just give 569 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: me one Wildcats just once? 570 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: That is that is so great? And you coached at 571 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: Whitman and you beat them in the playoffs. Tend to nothing, right. 572 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: I coached, Yeah, you know, I coached eight years at Whitman. 573 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: And coach Joe Cassidy, who I understand you play in 574 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: basketball with from time to time many times. Yes, Yeah, 575 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: he's a good friend of mine. It's a great program 576 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: and and we always have back and forth battles. They 577 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: knocked us out of the regional championship two years ago, 578 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: so uh. They had two Power five commits and in 579 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: a division one arm on the mound and we knew 580 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: that that was always a back and forth battle. And 581 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 3: we had the right guy on the mound at the 582 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: right time. And we're healthy. 583 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, coach, I don't want to be cheesy when I 584 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: say this. I mean, obviously we're a father son baseball podcast, 585 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: But there is nothing better besides maybe that relationship you 586 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: have with a parent than that relationship you have with 587 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: a coach. I think we all remember a coach that 588 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: truly inspired us, acted like a parent. Going from your 589 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: playing games to now being a state championship coach, how 590 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: important do you feel your relationship with those guys on 591 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: your team is. 592 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: I think so. 593 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: This is actually my first year teaching at Walter Johnson. 594 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: I've been at Churchill and Whitman and BCC prior to that, 595 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: and I think being in the building, I teach special 596 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: education and I had a few guys intern for me. 597 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 3: I'm in charge of the Best Buddies program. I had 598 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: a bunch of baseballs baseball players start. 599 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: Joining that. 600 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: As a result of me being in the building. So 601 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: I think the relationships definitely got a little bit more 602 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: tight knit with me being in the building. It's funny 603 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 3: how you said that the coach relationship is so important. 604 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: One of the first people I hugged after we won 605 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: that game was my high school coach, Steve Vorsini, who 606 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: was a special education teacher at Watkins Mill drove an 607 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: hour away just to see me when he won one 608 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: with Poolsville about seven or eight years ago, I want 609 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: to say, but he was one of the first people 610 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: there to support me, and it was just so amazing 611 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: to see him. 612 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Coach, I don't think there's any mystery here as to 613 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: finally getting that trophy. You said, you've been knocking on 614 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: the door a couple of years. You end up coaching, 615 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: or you end up teaching at the school, and then 616 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: you get your kids involved in a great organization like 617 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: Best Buddies, which I was involved in high school, and 618 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 1: I think it's so important. Coach, you seem like one 619 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: of those that stresses like, hey, what we do on 620 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: the field and what we do in practice is so important. Yes, 621 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: but what's even more important is the man you are 622 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: outside when you're not on the field, when you are 623 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: in the classroom, when you're at church, when you're at home, 624 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: wherever it is. And Best Buddies is a great organization 625 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: that teaches all of those important lessons. 626 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we do, a lot of the guys do Best Buddies. 627 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: And then I don't know how familiar you are with. 628 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: The miracle League. 629 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: Yes. 630 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, We've been working with them for the last three 631 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: three or four years. We try and do a few 632 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: in the fall, a few in the spring, usually on Sundays, 633 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: and it's just it makes you. It reminds you that, 634 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: you know, baseball is a game and it's fun and 635 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: all that. But like at the end of the day, 636 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: one thing Joe Cassidy always told me was you should 637 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: judge your success on how many kids come back because 638 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,239 Speaker 3: they had a great experience. And after the game, I 639 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: got off the field and it was just like hugging 640 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: one alumni after another alumni, and you know, they just 641 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: had a great experience through doing all these things outside 642 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: of just baseball. 643 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: Dad, you had you played baseball Walter Johnson. More importantly, respectfully, 644 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: your two brothers were great baseball players at Walter Johnson 645 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: ended up going on and being Hall of Fame college 646 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: baseball players at Catholic University. Not to interview my co 647 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: host here, Dad, but you have a storied history at 648 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: Walter Johnson High School, not just you, but your two 649 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: brothers in baseball and in sport. Is this this must 650 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: be really awesome for you too. You were jumping off 651 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: the walls. I know when you heard the news. 652 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great, and coach, I probably got two 653 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: dozen text messages emails from buddies of mine who most 654 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: of them who played at WJ, some of whom I 655 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: played with, all saying did you see the news WJ one. 656 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: So this is a really big deal. And if I 657 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: may personalize even more, Coach, I'm sixty eight years old. 658 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 2: I was born the year the school opened, and it 659 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: was striking to be that WJ won its first baseball 660 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 2: title state title in sixty eight years. That's how old 661 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: I am. So this is very personal to me. And 662 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: took a bunch of my friends who all sent me 663 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: these text matches. Hey, the Spartans, as we once were, 664 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: won the championship. 665 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: That's yeah, No, it's uh, I saw sixty eight years. 666 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 3: I didn't even know it was sixty eight years myself. 667 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: It was. 668 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 3: It was a special night, and I gotta be honest, 669 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: when we went down for nothing, I wasn't too confident 670 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: we'd be here talking about a state title. But this 671 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 3: this group, I actually think that last year, on paper, 672 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 3: we were better from a talent standpoint, but this group 673 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 3: just had more fight than any any group. 674 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: I've ever had. 675 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: It was such a special group and special night, and 676 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: wouldn't trade it for anything. 677 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: It's crazy that you almost get knocked out in your 678 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: first round. After the bye week, then you have a 679 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: couple ten zero games like. That's not the way it's 680 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: supposed to work. It's supposed to have the easy games 681 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: early and then have the threatening games later and then 682 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: you win it in a walk off. 683 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 2: Dad, did you. 684 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: Talk to Frank from the Elias? When's the last time 685 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: a walk off win state championship named after a major 686 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: league player happened? Could be the first ever? 687 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure it is the first ever. Coach, You're 688 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: never gonna have to buy a meal in Bethesda ever again. 689 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: And you think that's gonna be accurate or not? 690 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: I'd hope. 691 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: So. 692 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 3: I'm on a teacher salary, so that would help. 693 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: Well. 694 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: My wife was a longtime elementary school teacher. She was 695 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: the cheer coach at their elementary school. But I mean, 696 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: they didn't have any sports to cheer on. It was 697 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: just one of those so I mean, I guess if 698 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: they ever won something, I think she would get the 699 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: same thing. But coach, seriously, you're a teacher. You've dedicated 700 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: your life to students, to kids with special needs. Also 701 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: to being a coach of baseball, the sport we love 702 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: the most, and to take the time noting on Memorial 703 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: Day when you should be with families, should be celebrating, 704 00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: should be taking the day off for yourself. You took 705 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: some time for our little podcasts and we really appreciate it. 706 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: Coach, I appreciate being on here. I had a nine 707 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 3: to am game the next day for my son, you know, 708 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 3: open Annapolis, So like there is no time off. 709 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: It's all baseball, all baseball, all the time. Thank you 710 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 2: coach for joining us. Congratulations that go Wildcats. Hey let's 711 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: let's repeat next year. We got we got the talent 712 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: to do so whoo sounds great. 713 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to coach Steve for being a 714 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: part of the podcast today. Dad, that was extra special 715 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: and really fun. And in honor of Walter Johnson High 716 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: School winning the state championship, Dad, you have a very 717 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: special team. 718 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: Tim, Well, we're gonna do the all Walter Johnson team. 719 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: As you know, Jeff, when we do these teams, well, 720 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: let's be more accurate. When I do these teams, you 721 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: can't repeat the same name because it's too easy. If 722 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: they're you know, you got to have a different name 723 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: for each position, but since it's Walter Johnson, we're gonna 724 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: basically have the Johnson team of all time. Our catcher 725 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: is Charles Johnson, one of the great defensive catchers. Marlin's 726 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: others Darren Johnson, big time power hitter sixties and seventies. 727 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: At first base, Davy Johnson, the second baseman I believe 728 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: should be a Hall of Fame manager. And he's the 729 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: guy who's made me laugh so many times, Jeff and 730 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: made me think about so many things. First time he 731 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 2: met Brooks Robinson, the greatest defensive third basement of all 732 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: time mid sixties, Davey's on the Orioles, and he recognizes 733 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 2: that Brooks Robinson writes and eats with his left hand. 734 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: So Davy, his second basement, says, well, he's the greatest 735 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: defensive third basement of all time. And he told me 736 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: he wrote with his and ate with his left hand 737 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 2: for a year to see if it would make him 738 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: a better second baseman. He said, didn't work at all, 739 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: but I had to try it. Third baseman is Howard Johnson, 740 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: formerly of the Mets and a few others. And I'll 741 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 2: never forget you have nineteen ninety one, he led the 742 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: league with fifteen sacrifice flies. Speaking of sacrifice flies, you know, 743 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by them. That was the most sacrifice flies 744 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: in a season by a switch hitter ever. And the 745 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: Elias pointed that out in the Elias Analyst, and they 746 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: followed that with what have we created here? Like they're 747 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: actually looking up the most sacrifice flies by a switch 748 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: hitter in Major League history? 749 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: And you know, when we talked last week about what 750 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: merch items people would want if we started a merch 751 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: store for us, it's a great game or what number 752 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: one suggestion? Multiple people messaged me and said, well, you 753 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: need to get a shirt that says I check with 754 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 1: Frank at the Alias. That's the whole shirt. 755 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 2: I love it. That's great. 756 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: We have to get Frank on the sign off and 757 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: Elias on the sign off. There might have to be 758 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: some sort and people are saying do it for als 759 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: research right, raise money, So if we get them sign 760 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: it off on it, that's not a bad idea. I 761 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: checked with Frank at the Elias. 762 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: That's great. Jeff, all right. Our shortstop is Elliott Johnson, 763 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: who I always tell this story about him, very superstitious 764 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: told me that when he was when he was at 765 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: the plate, he would chew watermelon bubble gum. When he 766 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: was in the field, he would chew greape bubble gum. 767 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: It was a superstition. He got traded to the Braves. 768 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: The first thing he said when he arrived in the 769 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: clubhouse for the first time, to the clubhouse kids, do 770 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: you have any watermelon bubble gum? And they said no, 771 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: He goes, you gotta get some. You got to go 772 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: out and get some now. So they went to the 773 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: store and got him watermelon bubble gum because, as he 774 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: told me, and he was dead serious, because he's a 775 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: smart guy, funny guy, and a good player in his day, 776 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: the hits are in the watermelon bubble gum. And he 777 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 2: really believed it. And he said, I got two hits 778 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: that night. And he really believes he got two hits 779 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 2: in a major league game because he was chewing the 780 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: right gum. 781 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: He didn't make a lot of postseason appearances, but he 782 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: only has one postseason hit. 783 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: And it was a triple triple that interested there you go, 784 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: all right. Our outfield is Alex Johnson, who won a 785 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 2: batting title in nineteen seventy. Rare at the time at 786 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: least right handed hitter to win a batting title. Bob Johnson, 787 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 2: another outfielder, drove in one hundred runs for seven straight years, 788 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 2: mostly thirties forties Lamps Johnson who had a great nickname. 789 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 2: He could fly, Jeff, and he used to wear number one. 790 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 2: His nickname was the one Dog. I always love that 791 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: because he could really run. He led the triple He 792 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 2: led the league in triples four years in a row, 793 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: and in nineteen ninety six he hit twenty one triples 794 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: in one season. That's a lot of triples, Jeff, especially 795 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 2: in that day and age. And of course our two 796 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 2: pitchers are Walter Johnson is our right handed pitcher and 797 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: our left handed pitcher, Jeff. I'm gonna ask you to 798 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: come up with the left handed pitcher. 799 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: World famous photographer Randy Johnson. 800 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 2: Way to go, Jeff. If you had course that, I 801 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: would have kicked you off the podcast for the rest 802 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: of the season and done this all by myself, including 803 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 2: the technology and including the editing of all the episodes. 804 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 2: How long do you think that would last. 805 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: It wouldn't get off the ground. 806 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: Dad. 807 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: You don't even know the login to be able to 808 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: post the podcast yet. Alone to figure out how to 809 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: even do it. 810 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: Hi, Jeff, We've been abundantly clear about this that I 811 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 2: supply most of the content here, at least the baseball information. 812 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 2: You supply everything else. We are dead without me. We 813 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: are completely dead without you. So thank you for all 814 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 2: the work that you do. And sorry I poked fun 815 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 2: at you. No, that's okay. 816 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: I supply the long winded conversation about me booking a flight. 817 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: Well. 818 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: A big, big shout out to our coach for joining us, 819 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: Walter Johnson's head coach, State champion Steve Sutherland. Congratulations to 820 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: you and that amazing team. Thank you so much for 821 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: joining us. Dat Tomorrow on the podcast, we have Bob Ryan, 822 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame basketball writer and an amazing writer across 823 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: all the sports. Longtime Boston Globe writer Dad. He's going 824 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: to be our guest, right, the. 825 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 2: Quintessential sports writer, Bob Ryan, Hall of Fame basketball writer, 826 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: and his understanding and recall of baseball is baseball is 827 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 2: just staggering. He made us laugh out loud a whole 828 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 2: bunch of times about a whole bunch of sports. Can't 829 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: wait for you to hear Bob Ryan tomorrow. And of 830 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: course we're going to ask him a little bit about 831 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 2: the ending of Around the Horn. He was a long, 832 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 2: long time panelist on that great show on ESPN. So 833 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: much coming your way. 834 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: Join us tomorrow right here on the feed, subscribe if 835 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: you haven't already, shared the podcast with a friend, and 836 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: as always, thank you for being a part of our family.