WEBVTT - Episode 83: Orphan Black

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, how's it going, y'all? It's another episode of Nerdificent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host if you way way, and sitting across

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<v Speaker 1>from me as always is Danny Fernandez. Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And this week, you know, we're getting a getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little dark. Some would say we're getting even a little black,

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<v Speaker 1>a little orphan black. Yeah, yeah, you like that? You

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I was going to say, you're always black? Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I do you like one of those gaming skins

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<v Speaker 1>and switch it up. You never know. But yes, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking orphan black. And we are joined this week for

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<v Speaker 1>All the Way from New York by the community manager

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<v Speaker 1>of Cereal Box, Rachel Panellis. How you doing. I'm great,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to be here, happy to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>How we're talking before we start recording that it's about

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little snowy in New York. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>skipped this season. Fall is not happening. We are going.

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<v Speaker 1>We're straight into winter now. Oh man, that that should

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<v Speaker 1>be fun. You know, it'll still be uh probably seventy

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<v Speaker 1>year eighty around this part, but you know I will

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<v Speaker 1>so my heart is with you. But yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was super excited to uh, you know, basically chat about

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<v Speaker 1>Orphan Black, mostly because there's a new chapter on Cereal Box, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there is. It's really exciting. UM takes place eight years

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<v Speaker 1>after the events of the series finale, which was two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago now, and so we see where our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>members of the Clone Club are now and what life

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<v Speaker 1>is like for them after their adventures in the series,

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<v Speaker 1>and what it's been like for the next generation of Clones.

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<v Speaker 1>And that includes UM Sarah Manning's daughter Kira, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Charlotte, who was I guess it's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler, but she was a younger clone from Project

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<v Speaker 1>Leta who was cloned from Rachel Duncan. H. So, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's super exciting. And uh, for people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what is Cereal Box, that is a wonderful question

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<v Speaker 1>and I am very happy to answer it for you. So,

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, So Cereal Box we are a premium entertainment platform.

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<v Speaker 1>We do audio and h E books UM, and we

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<v Speaker 1>deliver ongoing stories for uh, you know, audiences in easily

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<v Speaker 1>easily degustable installments. UM. And the name itself is is

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<v Speaker 1>a pun, you know. So we do serialized fiction originals

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<v Speaker 1>as well as franchises like or from Black m yes,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah notes and we're available um uh in the

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<v Speaker 1>app store for iOS devices and uh Android as well

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<v Speaker 1>as our website. Oh that is super dope, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>check that out. Yeah, I heard about it because I

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Margaret Dunlap on a interactive show that it

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<v Speaker 1>should be coming out soon this month, so I can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know a little bit talk about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>was heard school dropout. But she worked on a Cereal

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<v Speaker 1>Box show with Max. Uh why why am I Gladstone? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Max Gladstone? Why did I forget his name all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden? But yeah, so I was working with them

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<v Speaker 1>and they were telling me about Cereal Box, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just love the concept. So yeah, that's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>worth checking out if you don't already. Sub Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really exciting. We take what's, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>best of traditional publishing and we innovate because what we

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<v Speaker 1>have is the model of a television writer's room and

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<v Speaker 1>so that way we have the episode of content delivered

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<v Speaker 1>to you regularly on that weekly basis, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>can follow along. And then there's also the option to

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<v Speaker 1>you knowing yeah, I know, binge or one by one theo.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's that's the number one decision people have

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<v Speaker 1>to do now, which is very challenging with or from

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<v Speaker 1>black because, as you know, it's known for its cliffhangers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, what are we geeking out about? This week?

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<v Speaker 1>We will start with Rachel, what are you geeking out about?

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<v Speaker 1>This week? So? I know the last episode of your

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<v Speaker 1>podcast was completely devoted to Watchman, But it can't be

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<v Speaker 1>said enough how excited excited I am about the new

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<v Speaker 1>HBO series and just HBO Sundays in general. Really loving

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<v Speaker 1>Watchman as well as the return and final season of

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley. Yeah. Oh it's been great. Yeah, ever since

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<v Speaker 1>that episode, I started, uh like right after that episode,

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<v Speaker 1>enemy of the Pod, Cody Ziggler, I contacted him for

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<v Speaker 1>his HBO Go passwords and now and now I'm locked in.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a trade because I got I've paid for showtime,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like I'll give you showtime if you give

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<v Speaker 1>me HBO, so you know new age trades. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been so locked in and then I started

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<v Speaker 1>checking out this Mrs Fletcher's show, and then I need

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<v Speaker 1>a coast check out. Uh succession, succession. Oh yeah, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's great. I so, but I'm up to date

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<v Speaker 1>on Watchman, and I always forgot how fun it is

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<v Speaker 1>to be up to date on TV where you can

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<v Speaker 1>just have the like speculation and conversation, but also the

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<v Speaker 1>drama of like, I don't want this spoiled because you

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<v Speaker 1>saw Hector tweeted something about Watchman, And that's how how

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<v Speaker 1>much I know I like Hector is that I saw

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<v Speaker 1>him mentioning in it, and I was like, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>finish reading this tweet because I know Hector wouldn't just

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<v Speaker 1>flat out post a spoiler. And it was a good

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<v Speaker 1>point there you go, Yeah, what about you, Danny. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>geeking out about the new Terminator film, which not enough

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<v Speaker 1>people saw, which stinks because it's really great, Like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people actually that did see it loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw someone tweet and it was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>Terminator um sequel is something that everyone's gonna love when

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<v Speaker 1>they eventually see it and realize that they should have

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<v Speaker 1>saw it in theater so that it would have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>the love that it deserved. But I really really cannot

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<v Speaker 1>say enough good things about Gabriel Luna. I love him

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Um, I love having a Mexican Terminator. It

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<v Speaker 1>means so much to me and so many other people. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And we also had Natalia Reyes, who played Danny, also

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a pop up of a lot of Danny's popping

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<v Speaker 1>up scripts. Um. I don't know. It might be people

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<v Speaker 1>that follow me and they're like, this feels like a Danny. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know one. I do know one show that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming out where the act was named after me. The

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<v Speaker 1>others I'm just projecting. But we also had Lynda Linda

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton's you know, I have a big thing right now

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm pushing for. I feel like we had the

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<v Speaker 1>Year of the Daddy and everyone was like Jeff Goldbloom

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<v Speaker 1>and Steve Carrell and they're so hot, and like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like women of the same age don't get the

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<v Speaker 1>same love, and so I think it's great to see

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<v Speaker 1>her just you know, with her ripped guns and just

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<v Speaker 1>like silver haired, and you know, I hope we also

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<v Speaker 1>got to see that with Jamie Lee Curtis and this

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<v Speaker 1>year with Halloween. I guess that was last year last year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that to me means a lot, like I

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<v Speaker 1>just Um. I also saw Keanu Reeves new Bow, who

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<v Speaker 1>is age appropriate, which everyone was so excited about, which

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<v Speaker 1>is also sad that anytime someone a man that's in

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<v Speaker 1>his fifties date someone that's actually age appropriate for him,

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<v Speaker 1>we get all excited. But anyways, I just feel like women,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of ages m in the industry,

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<v Speaker 1>and they definitely don't get the same love. So I

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<v Speaker 1>loved the fact I love seeing her in this role,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope that we get more more iconic, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>women that instead of being pushed out, are are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>elevated and starring in these huge franchises. Definitely, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go check it out tomorrow. But you know, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows I'm a fan of zombies all the time, so uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's you know, glad people are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the train. Danny's really champion, and really that's

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<v Speaker 1>who I did it for, was for her. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking out about this week is last week, um,

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend at this point, I was at a Complex

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<v Speaker 1>Con and it was so much fun. Complex Con, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know, it's by the kind of media brand

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<v Speaker 1>Complex that does First Week Feast and just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like hip hop streetwear and all that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had like a lot of custom drops and

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<v Speaker 1>Sneaker Room dropped three colorways of the Kyrie Five's dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the owner's mom, and I'm able to

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<v Speaker 1>remember the exact amount of shoes that were dropped in

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<v Speaker 1>each colorway because they had significance. So I got the

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<v Speaker 1>white colorway, which only five hundred and twenty five pairs

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<v Speaker 1>were made, which was to commemorate the day she died,

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<v Speaker 1>which was May. And then the black pair, only one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty six were made to commemorate that she

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<v Speaker 1>had one son and he was twenty six when she died,

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty three pairs of the black one were made

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<v Speaker 1>for her age at which she died, which was sixty three.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, but it was a wild drop. The black

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three pair of shoes were one thousand dollars retail,

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, and that caused a whole I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't you know, this maybe be worth a whole episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't really go into the full on um

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<v Speaker 1>kind of economy of it all. But the that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I think screwed up the resale across the board,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you have one thousand dollar shoe, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want it to go for two k or more. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the more expensive, the more kind of

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive color way is going to affect the price point

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<v Speaker 1>of everyone's resale. And what happened was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks went and spent a thousand dollars on the shoe,

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<v Speaker 1>but didn't have a thousand dollars. So before the weekend ended,

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<v Speaker 1>when they weren't able to sell it right away, they

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<v Speaker 1>started taking a lower hit, which means that the other

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<v Speaker 1>ones were taking lower hits. What I'm trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>is I bought the shoes to flip them in. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't uh and I'm very mad about it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also got a pair of ice creams which were if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know, We're Rebok released by Farrell when he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to have a skate company that had like

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<v Speaker 1>a very significant design. Uh I spent a lot of money. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Takashi Palm, I saw Offset trouncing around. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask him where's CARDI B I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see you, I want to see your wife.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a super fun But it was a

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<v Speaker 1>great celebration of like Street where the culture surrounding it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a great time, and I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to check out the next one. But that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>geeking out about. I'm geeked out and that's and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had a realization this weekend about that, just

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<v Speaker 1>like going to that con and really realizing just how

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<v Speaker 1>like nerdy I am about like streetwear. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like in the gym today lifting with one of

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<v Speaker 1>my boys, and like I was like, oh, nerd Nerdiness

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<v Speaker 1>is more of an attitude than like than like a

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<v Speaker 1>specific brand, because I truly am, Like I was like, Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm such a dork about like lifting, Like I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm down to like the body science, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really I try not to do it as much, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will. I'm actually usually it's other uh meat heads,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's fine. I'll I'm actually a meat head every day.

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<v Speaker 1>But i'd ever want to assume that's someone who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're talking about. Lots of times they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so that's real fun. We we can go,

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<v Speaker 1>you can geek out. I mean, it's a science, and

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<v Speaker 1>like there's so many things that we're gonna like tackle

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<v Speaker 1>in our podcast too. And I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people ding, we see the comment sometimes people ding

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people ding us because they're like, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>this subject. Um, you know, they want us to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Marvel in d C. Okay, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other things, Like the podcast isn't for one person

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<v Speaker 1>or one fan or just comic book fans. There are

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts that do that. You can go listen to those,

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<v Speaker 1>like we decided a long time ago that we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to explore everything in this realm and things that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. We know marvel in d C really well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to like um, lou Say comes

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<v Speaker 1>on and just geeks out about horror in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't you know, I'm a horror fan, but

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<v Speaker 1>she is like in depth in the community. Like that

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<v Speaker 1>to me is so fascinating. You know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things that we want to touch on. So

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<v Speaker 1>if the subject isn't for you, you can learn about

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<v Speaker 1>it in the same way that we are um or

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<v Speaker 1>just skip it. We're dropping these year round, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can pick and choose which wants to hop on and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even have to let us know when you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. You don't have to write this the subject.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can go back and listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>flash again. But um, we love comic books, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we loved superhero films, but there's so much more to

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<v Speaker 1>nerdiness than just those. So yeah, I love that concept

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<v Speaker 1>of your realization because nerdiness is just really knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>you like and cultivating that interest and celebrating and sharing

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<v Speaker 1>it with people. Oh yeah, definitely. I mean we've had

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<v Speaker 1>you know, real deal scientists saying that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>do science on here. Uh friend and uh friend borderline,

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<v Speaker 1>she's soon to be an enemy of the pot Palavi Gunlin.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh She's she's like a PhD uh, you know, hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>scientists and wants to come on and talk science. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we don't do that, we don't do science.

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<v Speaker 1>Well she did a poll and people voted, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>real science, and I was like, yeah, but now now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing now, but I'm in my Petti mode. Now

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<v Speaker 1>is the National Band science in it? Rachel? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>want to kind of um, for people that have never

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<v Speaker 1>seen this franchise? Would you like to explain it to them?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you explain a show that explores identity in

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<v Speaker 1>all of its assets and the human experience? Ah? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you know, if I can geek out for

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<v Speaker 1>a secondly that the first episode of the series, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty um easily available, the BBC America say has

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<v Speaker 1>it available, and then it's also the series is streaming

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<v Speaker 1>on Prime right now. But the first episode is really

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<v Speaker 1>what It starts with a bang. You meet this woman

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Manning uh, and she is on a train platform

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<v Speaker 1>and sees what appears to be her doubel ganger, her

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<v Speaker 1>her double uh and it's confusing, it's drying. And then

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<v Speaker 1>even more so, the woman UM jumps in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a train to her death. And then Sarah, who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the run because she's uh, she con frons in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes with a law. UM assumes this woman's identity, who

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be a detective cop child and in doing

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<v Speaker 1>so unraveled the mystery of of who she is uh

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<v Speaker 1>and we find out that she is a clone. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of the episode we meet her sister

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<v Speaker 1>Sestra's um. Who are do other woman Alison Hendrix and

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Kissima Newhouse? Who are they look like her? They? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a little different, but you know you and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole series and it seeks to answer the question,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who are they? And it's fascinating and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just really great sci fi and thriller and it

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<v Speaker 1>really um focuses on these women and their experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>their journeys. Yeah, and we should tell people who haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it that it is all of these women are

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<v Speaker 1>played by Tatiana Yeah, money, you forget because it's so

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary and even in because they're they're so individual, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>these characters who they are that it's the show is

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary and her performance is extraordinary because it's at a

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<v Speaker 1>certain point you don't even remember anymore that it's one

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<v Speaker 1>person and not ten. Yeah. I even felt that I

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<v Speaker 1>watched UM in a much smaller level. I watched UM

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<v Speaker 1>Living with Yourself with Paul Rudd, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm really glad that he took that role because

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of times like him just being

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<v Speaker 1>an aunt man and these huge things. I think, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why did he take this Netflix show? And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, you know, starring in Marvel films. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's also I mean, aside from getting paid a bunch,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I think it's also to show Oh wait no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually also like a serious actor and I can

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<v Speaker 1>play someone dealing with suicidal depression and in the same

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<v Speaker 1>flip side, literally in the same room, I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 1>myself as this, you know, this best version of me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just so I mean, I give props to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that does this that can play like multiple characters.

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<v Speaker 1>She's literally playing like different different characters. Uh, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess looking back, so I'm just looking over how the

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<v Speaker 1>show came to be, and it looks like originally, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian actress Ellen Page. Always forget that she's from Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>that she was originally considered for the role. Uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>would have been fascinating. I feel like she could also

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<v Speaker 1>possibly pull it off. So so the role went to Tatiana,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, she was a fan favorite. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>really launched She's been in a lot of things, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was what like launched her. Oh definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this was a vehicle for her. And if you think,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you know, it's it's like when you see

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<v Speaker 1>someone and see like have a show like I think

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of show as an actor's dream, where like

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<v Speaker 1>you can show how versatile you could be and also

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<v Speaker 1>in one show show all the different types of characters

0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.239
<v Speaker 1>you can play like this show it it prevents her

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<v Speaker 1>from being type cast because you're because you're like, look

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<v Speaker 1>at all these different, you know, people and versions. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I was watching uh like it in like my

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<v Speaker 1>roommate at the time was deep in the show. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was a later season and I was watching a

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<v Speaker 1>really does feel like it's different people. All right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the show, all right, So we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the beginnings and what haves you with? Uh uh

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<v Speaker 1>Orphan Black, which you know, if if we didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>this yet, it was so it was my Bell Media,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a Canadian company, I know for my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was distributed internationally by BBC Worldwide. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>in June twelve of two thousand twelve, they commissioned. Bell

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<v Speaker 1>Media commissioned a ten episode season of Orphan Black that

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<v Speaker 1>would be produced by Temple Street Productions. Then they distributed

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<v Speaker 1>internationally with BBC Worldwide. The show was executive produced by

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<v Speaker 1>writer Graham Manson and director John Fawsett, and the Temple

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<v Speaker 1>Street co presidents Ivan Schneeberg and David fort Fortier. Co

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<v Speaker 1>executive producers are Karen Walton and Carry apple Yard, while

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<v Speaker 1>the Temple Street producers are Claire Wellen and Karen Tibetski. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like Rachel was saying, in March, the BBC uh

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<v Speaker 1>signed a deal where Amazon would have the exclusive streaming

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<v Speaker 1>rights to the series. So you you have Prime, you

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<v Speaker 1>can binge it. Yeah, yeah, you know, as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, you can. Anybody who's telling you they're about

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<v Speaker 1>to go watch and say, listen to this episode first. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So Rachel, what are some of the um, what should

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<v Speaker 1>people know about the series? I know you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>broke down the first parts of it. Uh, but what

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<v Speaker 1>are some like common themes that happen in Orphan Black.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of the common themes that are emerging

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<v Speaker 1>in the next chapter are very much like the themes

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<v Speaker 1>that were a part of the original television series. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Themes of identity, themes of nature versus nurture, themes of

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<v Speaker 1>scientific ethics. Um. Yeah. And what's really fascinating about the

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<v Speaker 1>Orford Black the television series at the time was that

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the technology was I think what made

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of the Clones so scary. Wasn't just that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, confronting the idea how can you not be yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, are we that far off from so technology? Um? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>But also there you know it, Um, they really did

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<v Speaker 1>their research on the show was super super grounded in

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<v Speaker 1>some really interesting science, and that has been accelerated in

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<v Speaker 1>the next chapter. That um there, you know, not to

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<v Speaker 1>give away too much, but you know, the fear one

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<v Speaker 1>of the fears that the Clone clubs, the core group

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<v Speaker 1>of the four women of Sarah, Alison, Cassima, and Helena.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were really fighting. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>they were fighting against was UM. The their bodies and

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<v Speaker 1>their their genomes being used UM as kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>like Petrie dishes, not te dishes. But you know UM

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, their biology was gonna be UM used

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<v Speaker 1>for purposes that you know they didn't consent to to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for scientific experimentation UM. And so yeah, not

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<v Speaker 1>to give away too much of what happens in the

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<v Speaker 1>next chapter, but there's UH that is built upon UM

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, what else could you do with such technology?

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<v Speaker 1>Could it be weaponized? What would that look like? How

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<v Speaker 1>UM is our privacy violated? UM with such information? UM?

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<v Speaker 1>And those were things that were explored UH in the

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<v Speaker 1>television series, and that is very baked into the plot

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<v Speaker 1>and the struggles of the characters in the next chapter. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so just touching real quick back on the television series.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that we kind of praised Tatiana for UM

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<v Speaker 1>playing all these different parts. Just a little bit behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, the production films the scene multiple times with

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<v Speaker 1>a dolly mounted motion control camera that replicates the movement

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.679
<v Speaker 1>between each shot. So this is really fascinating, especially for

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 1>film people. Because this apparatus, it's known as a techno.

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Dolly is referred to as the time vampire on the

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<v Speaker 1>Orphan Black set due to the amount of time multiple

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<v Speaker 1>clone seeds take from the production schedule. And that makes

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>so much sense. Like when we're watching this, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how many times does she have to do this scene

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<v Speaker 1>playing both of the plane all of these roles. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that to me is just so a little bit behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes. Uh. And then they use tennis balls, which

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<v Speaker 1>is actually really common um for alternate shots and eyelines

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<v Speaker 1>and and things like that. I always find that so

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating when someone's delivering y'all don't even know, Like someone

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>will be delivering a heartfelt, tearful thing and they're just

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 1>looking at a tennis ball against the green screen, against

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the screen. There was also uh an acting double of course. Yeah. Yeah,

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>she had body doubles. Yeah, so many wigs. It looks

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>like there was a dance party scene in season two

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and that had four different clones. It was two days

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of shooting, several editions. Several additional body doubles were used

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>to create the effect. Um. So yeah, they do have

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of body doubles and like the back of

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>their head or something will be someone else. But it's

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it's seamless, you know, of course watch you hear it,

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's it's they're they're different characters, they're different people. Yeah,

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and so the double who was in it was Katherine

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Alexandra and they said that the performances were central to

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>her ability to create the characters. Um um muss Lani said,

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>uh that she was so amazing and that she memorizes

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>all the lines, all of her blocking and all of

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>her blocking, her mannerisms, her impulses, and she somehow memorizes

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.120
<v Speaker 1>all of that and gives it back to her. Uh. Well,

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the quote is, she's so amazing. She memorizes all the lines,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 1>all of my blocking, all of her blocking, my mannerisms,

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>my impulses, She somehow memorizes all of that and gives

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it back to me. With the performance I can play

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>off of which we were saying, and yeah, that that

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 1>probably helps, you know, having someone who's like doing the

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>same thing to kind of match it, because I mean,

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, Danny and I can attest to uh doing

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>auditions where you're just acting like this. This is kind

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>of one of the reasons I hate self tapes with

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a burning passion because you're in a room by yourself

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>with a friend who doesn't want to be there, who

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>is either giving you not enough or giving you too much.

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>It's never I had one person was like, are you

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to book this? I do them with Mark who's

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>been on here Mark Ellis. He has a booming radio

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>voice and he like steps away from the camera. I'm like, yeah,

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>stop trying to like book this role. Um. But Alexander

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>actually said um that that she got the spot because

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>when she auditioned, they wanted an actor as opposed to

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>just a double. Yeah. That's actually really cool. Yeah that's

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's great. And Muslani said that she created different

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>musical playlists to help her distinguish between the men clone

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>personality she portrays. That is so cool because it does

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>make sense, like how do you so effortlessly get into

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>this character? Well, you, I mean the character thinks differently,

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>They're going to move differently, they're going to speak differently,

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like everyone has different speech rhythms. So she you know,

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>listens to different music to try to get her in

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the zone. Yea, and some of what she's shared in

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>interviews about her process coming back to these characters and uh,

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>inhabiting them vocally again, that's that's been a part of

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>it as well. I'd really like to see them. I know.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>There's there's just so much dope stuff that went into

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>making this show that it's it's a no brain or

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>why it just kind of what's so great? I feel

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like even though it's such a pain and like everything

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like seems like a logistical nightmare, but in

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the end, I think it produced something so unique and

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>fun and why it kind of took off the way

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>it did. But I think for you know, the listeners

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>who are binging or are people who you know love

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>just to check out the episodes, what are you know,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>what are some episodes that you would recommend checking out for?

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>So obviously the first season, you know, that first episode,

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I think just um, outside of my speaking over the

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>entire series, just from um like television creation standpoint, I

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's maybe one of the best pilots first episodes

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of a series ever, at least in like the last decade. Um,

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's up there. For me, my list includes

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Madman and Yeah, so like that that first episode is

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>just it's it's a gut punch. Um. There was a

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of really um amazing things that happened. UM at

0:30:55.200 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the end of season two with Helena. Season two episodes

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it's called to Hound Nature in her Wanderings. Some people

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>may remember that is the episode where Helena meets Jesse,

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>who people may recognize from suits he was her boyfriend. UM.

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>And then later episodes. I really also love an episode

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that happens in the following season, uh where Helena and

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Sarah are on some kind of like deranged road trip

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico escaping a secret government base where we find

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>there are more clone experiments taking place, and so it's

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>an interesting bonding experience for those sisters. And then UM

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the episode with Felix's art show. That's a classic. Yes.

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of the pilot, for everyone, anyone that just

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>wants to read it, or if you are um a

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>writer that wants to read more pilots, you can get

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>access to the Orphan Black Piet. I just looked it up.

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>It's on TV calling, it's TV dash Calling dot com,

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>or you can just google Orphan Black Pilot, UH and

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>look it up if you want to read it. It's

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>always my favorite thing to do as a writer. If

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>something is really great, look it up and read it

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and see how how they wrote it, how it was shot,

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>how you know they transition these characters, their character descriptions,

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.479
<v Speaker 1>all of that is all in there, so you can

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>check it out. It's so dope. Uh So we are

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>going to take another quick break and then we're going

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to hop into the future of Orphan Black and why

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>it's resonated with so many people and kept going on,

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you know now that we have a new series with it,

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and we'll check in after the break and we are back. So, Rachel,

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>why do you think that this has resonated with so

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>many people enough to get this, you know, this next series,

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and also that we're still talking en about it today.

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I think because the show itself was just so unique,

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>um and exciting and unlikes that was at the time

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>before or has been. And then of course the um

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>just enduring amazing technical and emotional and inspiring performance that

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Tatiana gave to all these such different, interesting, multi faceted characters. UM.

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, like we discussed before, the themes of

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>identity and nature versus nurture UM that is so much

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a part of great storytelling. The show has had it

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>all and so this next chapter is set eight years

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>in the future from where season five left off. It

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>will have the same characters. They're all voiced by Muslani. Yes, uh,

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and not just Tatiana doesn't just revisit her clone characters.

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>She's uh narrating the series as well as giving voice

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>to other characters that weren't played by Tatiana Maslani that

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>we know from the original series, including Um Delphine and

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Art Bell and the younger clones too, oh, as well

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>as UM Sarah Manning's brother feelings. It's really interesting to

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>hear um how that gets inhabited. But also, you know,

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>much like watching the show, you listen to the series

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's pretty incredible that you can't believe that

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>it's the same, right, that's so cool. I can't wait

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to I can't wait to listen to it. Yeah, it's

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>really cool. It's been really exciting to um share it

0:34:56.080 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>with people because the first responses, oh my gosh from Luck,

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I love that show. It's so cool. Uh that I

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>thought that it's back. That's great. And then when they

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>find out that the narrator is Tatiana herself. That's just

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it's even more Yeah, that's yeah. I mean there's some

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>spoilers where we find out eight years later the um

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>fate of certain popular pairings of characters, seeing where who

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 1>they've ended up with, who they're still with, who they're

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>not with. Um, so the romantic pairings have been um

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>interesting to uh see what's happening there and then as

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>well as you know, um this woman, it's you know,

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>eight years later, they're eight years uh into their lives

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and trying to um live quiet private ones. But uh

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that is not for long, Sue. I like that cliffhanger

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of a little tease bit. Yeah, so can you tell

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the easiest way for our audience to be able to

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>listen to this? So the easiest way for audiences to

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>listen to it is at cereal box dot com or

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>um the Cereal Box app, which is available in the

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>App Store or on Google Play. The first episode of

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>or from Box the next chapter is free, as well

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>as all of Cereal Boxes series eight. The first episode

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>is free to try um and you can listen to

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 1>it and here Tatiana given incredible performance as well as

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>read the text, which is written in incredible prose by

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Um some really awesome award winning sci fi authors, including

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>malcol Older, Madeline Ashby, Michelle Baker, Higley Kennedy, and e Myers. Yeah,

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that's so cool that there was like a whole writing

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>team for this series. Yeah, us and hello, as well

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>as Lindley Smith and Helly Kennedy. Actually Um wrote the

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Orphan Black comic books. That's so dope. I didn't even

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.919
<v Speaker 1>know there was a comic book. There was. There was, Yes,

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember exactly how many issues it was, but

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it ran I think like the year that the final

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>season was going and a little while after that, and uh, yeah,

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Hiley Kennedy, who's part of the writing team for the

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>next chapter, UM wrote some of those if he also

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>our friend Jodi Houser. Yes, she was a co writer. Yeah. Yeah,

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>she's doing so much it's like kind of trying to

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>keep up with her. And I didn't even know that

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>she wrote a d from Black, but it looks like

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it was out by I d W we had in

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>our episode. That's so cool, Um, And it's something that

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I would actually, as a fan of the show, would

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like to revisit because Um, I haven't read the comics,

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>but I know that there was a significant storyline that

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the comics explored that was in the original series of um,

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the character of m K and the incident in Helsinki

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>she comes from. Yeah. No, these these look cool and

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.479
<v Speaker 1>the covers are super dope too. You remember you're saying

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you had the blog post of the nine essential episodes

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to see but before the series. Yeah, yeah, so it's interesting.

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I can, of course thank you guys. But when you

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.240
<v Speaker 1>shared with me what you thought were some of your favorites,

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I saw that we had a bit of we had

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>some crossover, so that was nice to see, you know,

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of course, including the Felix Art Show episode, which is

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>just a really I think if you've never seen the

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 1>show all the way through and you watch one episode

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 1>that is really emblematic of all the characters. Um. I mean,

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of course it is two episodes before it's finale, but

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>it's each character gets a really incredible moment, and so

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I think very fondly back on it. You know, I

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta thank you for coming on and chatting with us. Uh.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, besides the Serial Box Show, is there anything

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to plug or where people can find you? Oh?

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just want to plug the next Chapter

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and and Sera Box. You know, we also have a

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Thor series starting UM in December. Um. Uh, stay tuned

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>because there's gonna be some really exciting news. We are

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>going to be sharing the narrative of the series. Wondering ask, well,

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I saw y'all have a deal with Marvel, so we

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>can expect more Marvel series on your slate? Yes, okay, absolutely, yes,

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>So Thor will be the first, and that UM launches

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>twelve twelve, the Separate twelve and then we have a

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Black Widow, Black Panther, and Jessica Jones series in the works. Yeah,

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and so you can expect those uh after the new year. Yeah, definitely. Rachel,

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on and talking about or Black.

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you guys for having me. I'm excited

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to share more Lenks and uh nerd out. Yeah. Is

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>there anything you need to plug? Yeah? Everyone? So, uh,

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>this Thursday the four, This Thursday November is when my

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Fathom event for the Twilight So also, if you just

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>love the Twilight Zone, or if you've listened to me

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>geek out about it so much, you're like, what, Okay,

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>why does she love it so much? Fathom is playing

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>several Twilight Zone episodes on the big screen you can

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.479
<v Speaker 1>look in theaters in your area. Um so, but they're

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>doing it for one night only. It's to honor the

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>sixtieth anniversary of the Twilight Zone. Also a tribute to

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Rod Serling that I am in. A couple of other

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.760
<v Speaker 1>people are in. I'm guessing maybe Jordan's Peel is probably

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>going to show up in it. I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>in our documentary. Um So, they took a part of

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<v Speaker 1>our documentary and are going to show it before enduring

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes of the Twilight Zone. Yeah, the full documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure when it comes out, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>definitely tell y'all. But if you're a big t Z head,

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<v Speaker 1>like go out and see it like it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the only time we can actually see it on a

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<v Speaker 1>big screen within a room surrounded by other Twilight Zone fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Are so cool. Yeah, I've never been to one, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also I've been to them. I'm a big theater nerd,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because we all have things that we nerd

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<v Speaker 1>out about and they all do um with like the

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<v Speaker 1>National Theater in uh in England. Um So, when benedictomber

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<v Speaker 1>Batch was doing the Frankenstein play and alb is one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so you can see them in the theater

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<v Speaker 1>without you know, going to London. Yeah, so they typically

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<v Speaker 1>do it for like one night only or something like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they did like a Guns and Roses or

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<v Speaker 1>something like. They do. Yeah, these big live events or

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<v Speaker 1>these big events that you can catch in theaters. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is my thing. And if you check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, tweet me and let me know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah for sure and yeah me, I don't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, but as always, you can check on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and Instagram. If you want to hang in the discord,

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<v Speaker 1>it's discord dot g g Ford slash Salt Squad. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of nerd famine. They're hanging out multiple

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of nerd dumps coming together on there, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course my stream if D s on Twitch I

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<v Speaker 1>f d e easy. If you're an Amazon Prime member,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a Twitch Prime sub that you can give

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<v Speaker 1>to me for free, but you have to come back

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<v Speaker 1>every month and give it because it isn't automatic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the usual spiel. But beyond that, stay clony and just kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>stay nerning.