1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome Savor protection of iHeart Radio and Stuff Media. 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm Any and I'm Lauren voc Obam, and today we 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: have a classic Savor episode for you from back when 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: we were a food stuff indeed, and it's about cranberries. Cranberries. Yes, 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: I admitted recently that, Um, I have started culling down 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: the menu at our Thanksgiving meal, right, which as you 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: listen to this has just happened. And also I love 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: last year how many people commented and we're like, how 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: drunk are you at this point? Drink responsibly? But that 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: was funny. Um, I am doing away with cranberry sauce, 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite things, but no one else, 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: so I've been equal opportunity. Yeah, right, Well that's very 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: polite of you. Yeah, and I guess it's one less 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: thing to cook. It is like a relatively simple thing, 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: It's true, but it's it's as you know, Lauren, I 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: have an anxiety around leftovers, so it falls to me 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: to eat all the cranberry sauce, which is wonderful in 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: some ways but very stressful in other ways. I'm a 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: very complicated human being. I see you, I see you, 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: and I understand. Um, Okay, well maybe maybe I'll like 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: bring them to D and D so that you can 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: like have like a little bit without having that anxiety. Yes, 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: and our fella, a fella, our fellow dn D player 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: in the campaign with those um ramsay producer here had 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: been on the show. Um he texted me last night 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: and he just made a cocktail that had cranberries in it, 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and he said it was really good because of the 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: tartness of the cranberries. And I was hitt hit, nudge, nudge, 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: make that. Let's try it. Yes, Oh that would be wonderful. 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I hope I certainly hope that he does. We should 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: bring it up and don't mention me. Yeah, you know, naturally, 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: just haven't made any new cocktails that are interesting and 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: fun and holiday related lately that you'd like to reproduce 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, he won't see through that, No, not 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. Yeah, we've got this episode for you, 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: and so yeah, we're going to let past Lauren and 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: Annie take it away. Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm Lauren Vogelbon and I'm Annie Reese, and today we're 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: talking about cranberries. Yes, cranberries. It's a seasonal festive topic 40 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: here in the United States anyway. Yeah, and pretty much 41 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: only in the US and Canada. I was very surprised 42 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: to learn that. Well we'll talk about that more later, 43 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: but well, they are native to North America. I think 44 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: that probably helps. It does. It does, and we're crazy 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: about them for one tiny part of the year and 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: then forget that. Nobody cares. What is this tart berry? 47 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: We don't want anything to do with it. Oh and 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: speaking of what are cranberries, Lauren, cranberries are berries. I 49 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: know it sounds sort of dub when I say it 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: that way, but after pineapple and sweetbreads, I felt like 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: I should really specify. They are the fruit of a 52 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: couple of trailing viney shrubs by the scientific names Vaccinium 53 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: oxycoccus and Vaccinium macro carbon um, although the latter the 54 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: large cranberry that macro um is much more common. A Vaccinium, 55 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: by the way, is the same genus that blueberries are 56 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: in there, they're pretty closely related. In case you've never 57 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: seen a cranberry or never worked with raw ones, which 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think so. In some parts of America, 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: the conception of a cranberry is just this tin can 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: shaped jelly are dried things you might find in your salad. Sure, um, 61 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: cranberries are are we things an oval about half an 62 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: inch long. It's about ten millimeters with bright red or 63 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: pink skin and white flesh and side containing these time 64 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: and little seeds. Um. They are very tart and a 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: little bit better. So. Although they can be eaten raw, 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: they're usually cooked and sweetened. They there are a few 67 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: unrelated species of shrubs that bear similar looking and sometimes 68 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: similar tasting fruit in the Vibernum genus that are commonly 69 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: called cranberry bushes. But they are not. They're not cranberries. 70 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: They are totally different plant. Not even a berry has 71 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: to be handled differently. Not not what we're talking about 72 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: here today. Why did they try to trifles up with 73 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: these things? They they look so similar, let's call it 74 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: the same thing? Yeah, you know, okay, sure, thanks history. Yeah. 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: True cranberries, as we've already said, our native to North America, 76 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: but have been cultivated in Europe and Chile, and cranberry 77 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: bush species are native to parts of Europe and Asia 78 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: and Africa. True cranberries grow in bogs. Bogs, I get 79 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: to talk about bogs. These are great fascinating ecosystems. Okay, 80 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: the first thing you need to make a bog is 81 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: a glacier. Of course, about ten thousand years ago, towards 82 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: the end of the last ice Age, the leashers that 83 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: had descended upon the land began to to separate and recede. 84 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Bits of them would get caught in depressions in the landscape, 85 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: and as they melted, if those depressions happened to be 86 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: lined with impermeable clay, they wound up forming small lakes 87 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: and or large ponds that are called kettle holes. Over time, 88 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: these kettle holes collect sediments, and they attract particular plants 89 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: that further specialize the environment. You've got you've got peat deposits, 90 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: You've got thick moss and acidic water that is low 91 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: in oxygen. Cranberries happen to love this. What doesn't love 92 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: this is bacteria and fungi. And that is why some 93 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: amazingly preserved specimens of ancient humans and other animals have 94 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: been found in bogs. Yea that the micro critters that 95 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: usually break things down can't really live there. So you 96 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: get good. You get good fossilized stuff, or not necessarily 97 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: fossilized but preserved in many ways like blog butter bog butter. 98 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: Oh right, okay, bringing it back to butter, thank you. 99 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: Cranberries are another food that have gone by a handful 100 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: of fun names throughout their history, like finn wart and 101 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: war short marsh berry. Marshwart not a thing that does 102 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: not sound you imagine buying marshwort and the grocery store. 103 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I can that sounds like you're making a potion. Yeah. 104 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: The Native Americans called them sasamanesh are imbani, which translated 105 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: to bitter or sourberry, and this can make tracking them 106 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: in historical documents and recipes difficult. Like a lot of 107 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: things we talked about, The word cranberry itself, a translation 108 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: of the German craneberry, referenced its long beak like stocks 109 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: that kind of looked like cranes um And it didn't 110 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: appear until late seventeenth century America and was probably again 111 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: based on things that weren't cranberries at all. Yep, totally correct. Um. Today, 112 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: the cranberry industry is valued around three million, with the U. S. 113 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: And Canada accounting for nineties percent of production. Yeah, and 114 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: it's the state fruit of Wisconsin and Massachusetts and Wisconsin 115 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: and Washington State have cranberry museums. Oh, another field chrip opportunity. 116 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: I know, if you're in one of those states and 117 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I visited, or you should go visit and write in 118 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: and tell us what they're like. Yeah. Meanwhile, As Americans 119 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: consume about four hundred million pounds of cranberries a year, 120 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: primarily is juice, yes, and that consumption occurs during the 121 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving season. Only five percent of cranberries are sold as 122 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: the whole fruit. The rest is all processed stuff. Yeah, 123 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: it's a terrible shame. I love fresh cranberries. I know, 124 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: I have only had them recently, and I was like, 125 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: have I gone so long only knowing the jellied stuff? Anyway, 126 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: how did we get to this point? Let's look at 127 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: the history. Yeah, over four dred years ago, the Native 128 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: Americans were using cranberries a variety of ways. Um. Apart 129 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: from eating them straight or as a sweet sauce, they 130 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: dry them out and make them into cakes or mix 131 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: them with dried venisone and animal fat for pemicon, a 132 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: portable and long lasting food that often served as a 133 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: primary calorie source on winter trading routes. And could be 134 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: traded itself as a commodity. I think about it as 135 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: sort of like a like a protein bar of the 136 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: ancient days. I think it's often called like the original, 137 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: the first protein bar. Yeah. Yeah, jerky and cranberries. I 138 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: would definitely eat that protein bar. Oh yeah, me too. 139 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: And the importance of pemicon for winter traders led to 140 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: the Battle of Seven Oaks in eighteen sixteen. After in 141 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: eighteen fourteen, the Red River Colonies governor tried to keep 142 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: the Matisse from exporting pemicon through the Pemicon Proclamation. Pemicon Proclamation. Yeah, 143 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: he was worried there wouldn't be enough food to feed 144 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: the settlers without it, but also wanted to help out 145 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: the Hudson Bay Companies for Trade at the extent of 146 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: the Northwest Companies for Trade. Yeah, and the Matis believed 147 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: he was trying to kill their trade, which legitimately um 148 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: After after a series of skirmishes and rising tensions, the 149 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: Matise and the Northwest Company fur Traders joined forces to 150 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: it hack Red River Colony in response, and twenty two 151 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: people died. Yeah, so pretty important, pretty important fomcon. Yeah, 152 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: Cranberries were also used other than food and teas, and 153 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: as the leaves as a tobacco substitute. They worked well 154 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: as a die and as a bait in traps laid 155 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: for hairs. The Native Americans utilized cranberries and poultices to 156 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: speed up the healing of wounds and tumors, which may 157 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: or may not have provided some benefit due to the 158 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: cranberry compound that keeps E. Coli and staff from glomming 159 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: onto tissue walls, cell walls, um Some traps used it 160 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: for bladder and kidney problems. You've probably heard this yourself, 161 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: and we will be talking more about that later, absolutely 162 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: um digestive problems, and childbirth related issues. European settlers quickly 163 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: subbed cranberries interestipes using similar berries, mostly sauces, jams, and 164 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: jellies that often appeared alongside meat. Cranberries contain a lot 165 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: of pectin, which is one of those natural jelling agents 166 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: that that helps make stuff without having to mess with, 167 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, like boiling an entire calf's leg right. The 168 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: naturalistidity helps absolutely accentuate the meat. By the six hundreds, 169 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: North American cranberrys were being used as a cure for scurvy. 170 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: For the sailors transverse in the Atlantic back to Europe. 171 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: It was believed the so harness pulled the salt from 172 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: the body, but we know today this worked due to 173 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: the vitamin C and cranberries, because scurvy is a vitamin 174 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: C deficiency. Yeah, the pilgrims would most likely be familiar 175 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: with the smaller wild European cranberry that grew in bogs 176 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: and marshes in England. Not the same thing, but looks similar. 177 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: Um northern Europe and even parts of Siberia that's where 178 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: it all grew and and Siberia. They stored these cranberries 179 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: and barrels of water during the winter, and they would 180 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: eat them during the spring. Yeah, if you keep them refrigerated, 181 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: cranberries lasted a good couple of months. Yeah, they're chilling out. Literally, 182 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't even mean that, boy, Bonus points for the waxy 183 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: film on cranberries that could help keep them for weeks. Yeah. 184 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: And bees, I love it whenever history and whenever history 185 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: talks about bees. I know, and I believe we've mentioned 186 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: this before, but in bees from Britain arrived and transformed 187 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: the way the colonists could use fruit. Now with a 188 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: more readily available form of sweetener honey. Yep, cranberries start 189 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: popping up in tarts and pies. Cranberries popularity skyrockets, so 190 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: much so that nineteenth century Boston satirist William Tudor wrote, 191 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: cranberry is eaten with almost every species of roasted meat, 192 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: particularly the white meats, turkeys, etcetera. Some even eat it 193 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: with boiled fish. And I knew one person otherwise, a 194 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: very worthy man who eats it with lobsters for supper. Oh, outrageous, outrageous. 195 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: European cookbooks like The Experienced English Housekeeper in London Art 196 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: of Cookery in the seventeen hundreds gave recommendations on cranberry storage. 197 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: In the frequently mentioned sev six cookbook American Cookree Amelia 198 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: Simmons suggested for cranberry tarts and pies that they be stewed, 199 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: strained and sweetened, put into a paste, and big gently mhm. Meanwhile, 200 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixteen we get our first instant instance of 201 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: cranberry cultivation. A Massachusetts Revolutionary war veteran by the name 202 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: of Henry Hall observed that cranberries in his bog grew 203 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: faster when they were exposed to sand blown off of 204 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: nearby dunes, and that gave him the idea to transplant 205 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: some cranberry vines to an area that he had fenced off, 206 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: drained and sanded. The vines became much more fruitful of 207 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: producing a variety of types, some of which Hall called 208 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: jumbo mm HM. New York City and Boston enjoyed shipments 209 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: of Hall's cranberries by eighteen twenty, and others in the 210 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Cape Cod areas started making cranberry yards of their own. 211 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: It was around this time in Massachusetts that early Black 212 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: and house were selected as the two main cultivars, and 213 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey began and cultivating cranberries in eighteen thirty five, 214 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: Wisconsin in eighteen three, and Oregon in Washington towards the 215 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: end of the century. Meanwhile, the price of granulated sugar 216 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: was decreasing, and this coincided with the increased availability of cranberries, 217 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: meaning that more housewives purchased them as they could now 218 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: afford to sweeten them with sugar. Right and sea captains, 219 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: familiar with cranberries due to the whole scurvy prevention thing, 220 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: got in on the cranberry bog action as well, some 221 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: financing them. Two locals in a similar manner they had 222 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: done with their ships. The financing some of these bogs 223 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: were passed down for generations, and since cranberry vines live 224 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: so long, some are thought to be the first vines planted. 225 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: Boston would become the major marketing and shipping hub for cranberries, 226 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: and uh when shipped greater distances, up to one hundred 227 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: pounds of cranberries were packed in barrels of water, and 228 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: this barrel became the standard measurement for cranberries still is today. 229 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: I've leave. So these barrels of cranberries would become available 230 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: starting in the fall, ready for winter celebrations. But how 231 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: exactly did they become such a well known part of 232 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: North American winter celebrations. We'll find out right after. We 233 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: take a quick break for a word from our sponsor, 234 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: and we're back, Thank you, sponsor. So the association of 235 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: cran bears with Christmas probably began as early as the 236 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: first American Christmas trees in the eighteen forties, which were 237 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: traditionally decorated with sweetmeats, not sweetbreads, fruits, nuts, and the like. Um, 238 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: and it's only natural that the bright red berry that's 239 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: available around this time would lend itself to such a decoration. Also, 240 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: since they're kind of sturdy, you can string them on 241 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: a string as opposed to other things that you would 242 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: string them on. Sure, uh, string string them on a 243 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: string and hanging them up, and they'll they'll remain pretty 244 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: okay for for a while. Yeah. In eighteen sixty eight, 245 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Queen Victoria's book reference to pie with good tart of 246 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: cranberries she had at a dinner in Scotland, so they'd 247 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: made it over there. And Reverend Benjamin Eastwood's book on 248 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: cranberry cultivation helped grow the industry even further, as did 249 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: the expansion of ha yes after the Civil War, something 250 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: some historians have given the name cranberry fever took the 251 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: country by storm. Everything's a fever. In eighteen seventy one, 252 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: the first Cranberry Girls Association coalesced. The eighteen eighties innovation 253 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: of wooden cranberry scoops. With improvements in sorting and screening 254 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: up to production, and with dollar bill signs in their eyes, 255 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: amateurs rushed into the cranberry business. Promises of cranberry money 256 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: pouring in did not come to fruition in most cases, 257 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: and the majority lost their money. Yeah, there was a 258 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: real craze going on. It's like the gold Rush, but 259 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: with reason. She saw it. Described that way. Cranberry bog 260 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: spread to Wisconsin and New England, which they both surpassed 261 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Massachusetts in production um and by nineteen hundred, twenty one thousand, 262 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: five hundred acres were used to produce the berry. Massachusetts 263 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: was not out of the game, though not by a 264 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: long shot. Cape cod became a household name, and up 265 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: until nineteen seven, children of the state might be excused 266 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: from school to go help out with the cranberry harvest 267 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: every year. Yeah, it's serious business. In nineteen o seven 268 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: we saw the force the first formation of the first 269 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: cranberry marketing cooperative, the New England Sales Company. Three years later, 270 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: in nineteen ten, Massachusetts got the University of Massachusetts Cranberry 271 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: Research Station. Yeah, very intrigued by that. The first mechanical 272 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: cranberry picker arrived in nineteen twenty, and in nineteen thirty, 273 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: as the cranberry industry was peaking with twenty seven thousand, 274 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: six hundred forty acres ocean spread, A Cranberries Inc. Stepped 275 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: in with a marketing cooperative owned by growers, The great depression. 276 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: As you would probably guess, depressed cranberries, crazy growth and 277 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: disease also decreased growth further. In the nineteen forties, in 278 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: hand scooping was almost a universally replaced by a mechanical 279 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: walk behind harvester um. These days this is called dry 280 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: harvesting and sometimes uses a helicopter to transport the berries 281 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: from the bog without hurting the vines. Then, in the 282 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: early nineteen fifties, as refrigerators electric refrigerators that is, became 283 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: a thing, housewives began freezing cranberries to last throughout the year. 284 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Thanks to cranberries dot org by the way for this 285 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: handy dandy timeline, super handy dandy. Cranberries primarily came as juice, 286 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: jelly or gelatin until after World War Two, when people 287 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: started to use the fresh stuff, especially around the holidays 288 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: and with that refrigeration. Um. But this was still the 289 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: minority of cran very usage. But then, but then done, yes, 290 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: disaster struck with the cranberry scare of nineteen Cranberry scared. 291 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: First there's a craze and then there's a scare. When 292 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: Secretary of the U. S Department of Health, Education and 293 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Welfare Arthur Fleming announced to the country that some cranberries 294 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: had been exposed to amno triazle, a suspected carcinogenic used 295 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: as an herbicide. This was a severe blow, severe like 296 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: how severe like? Sales of cranberries plummeted by seventy Some 297 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: consider this the first major cancer scare in the US 298 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: transpect to cranberries. I never would have guessed. Yeah, yeah, 299 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: it was only a small number of cranberries harvested in Oregon, 300 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: but cranberries had to be destroyed, and the massive resulting 301 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: price decline meant that a lot of acres devoted to 302 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: cranberry acreage had to be shut down, and it took 303 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: almost a decade for the industry to bounce back. Farmer 304 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: has figured out um water harvesting in the nineteen sixties, 305 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: and most bogs implemented the practice, which allowed for more 306 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: growth and product diversification to eventually lead to the seven 307 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: release of ocean sphrase crazins, crazins yep, I'm still let 308 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: sure that I approve of that of that minor pun No. 309 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: I have to think about it further. You're allowed form 310 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: form your own opinions. Water harvesting entailed pumping about eighteen 311 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: inches that's about forty of water into a dry cranberry bog. 312 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: And the day after this, the cranberries are harvested using 313 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: these water reels called egg beaters that pull the cranberries 314 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: from the vines and and thanks to this air pocket 315 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: that is naturally in the berry around the around the seeds, 316 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: the berries float to the surface ready to be scooped 317 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: up with a big plastic or wooden brooms. They're then 318 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: leaned and processed, and we now get of our cranberries 319 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: this way to this day, despite the kind of rough 320 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: treatment it means for the berries, which doesn't matter too 321 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: much if you're processing most of them into chiefs. Absolutely right. 322 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't until the two thousand's we start to see 323 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: cranberries paired with salads. The two thousands dried cranberries, by 324 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: the way, I don't think I've ever seen a fresh 325 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: cranberry on a salad. No, I don't think so. I 326 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: don't think so either. Most likely because that's about when 327 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: these nicer prepackaged salads complete with topping tappings started to 328 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: hit grocery store shelves. Um perhaps but probably not related. 329 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: Total production of export markets grew by probably not related 330 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: but interesting um and worth noting that by the mid 331 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, most Native American tribes had been wiped out 332 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: of the New England region, but some do have ties 333 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: to the cranberry in the present day. Um. The Coquill 334 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: tribe owns and operates organic cranberry farm Coquilla Cranberries out 335 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: of Oregon, and the Wampa Noag hold Cranberry Fest in 336 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Martha's Vinyard each year. So yeah, yeah, yeah, in another 337 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: episode where we get a nice depressing yeah, but the 338 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: right right on the end, um, although, hey, I've actually 339 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: got some more kind of depressing things to to to 340 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: talk about, and there's gonna be a Lawrence Killjoy corner. 341 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: But first there's gonna be one more quick break for 342 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor. And went back, thank you sponsor. 343 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: So okay. There seemed to be a lot of misconceptions 344 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: about the healthfulness of cranberries. First off, dried sweet and 345 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: cranberries are basically candy. Yeah, they're no longer a fruit. 346 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: And and the thing about about dried cranberries is that 347 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: all of them on the market are sweetened. If you 348 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: find any unsweetened ones, please tell me, please send me 349 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: to that website. I want to buy them. Um. But okay, 350 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: the nutritional information about dried sweetened cranberries. A single ounce 351 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: serving that's about twenty eight grams or like a like 352 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: a handful, um, contains eighteen grams of sugar, which is 353 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: half as much as a can of coke. Basically, uh, 354 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: that's not that's that's not healthy. Um. Furthermore, the manufacturing 355 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: process that makes them dried and sweetened leeches basically all 356 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: of their nutritional benefits or or beneficial nutrients rather from them. Um. 357 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: Vitamin C is gone, all of the like possible antioxidants 358 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: are gone. They still contain one percent of your daily 359 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: recommended value of iron and four percent of manganese. Okay, 360 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: that's about it. Yeah, that's not too much to brag about. Yeah, 361 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: so if you really like eating them, do it, but 362 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: just be aware that you're not doing yourself any particular 363 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: nutritional favors. So don't don't think you're doing a healthy 364 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: thing by eating them. Secondly, oh and okay, this gets 365 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: back to cranberry's use in treating urinary tract infections. Okay, 366 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: so so this was this was an an ancient or 367 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: not ancient this This was an older folk remedy and 368 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: about a hundred years ago UM, as we started developing 369 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: science but still didn't quite have antibiotics, some doctors that 370 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: that they might be able to treat U t I 371 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: s by making patients yurine too acidic for bacteria to 372 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: grow in. Cranberry juice became a popular therapy, but it 373 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: was later found that the amount of cranberry juice you'd 374 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: have to drink to really see an effect is prohibitive, 375 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: being that mostly it would just give you ulcers and 376 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: kidney stones in the long run. But then a while 377 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: later another thing that we talked about UM that that 378 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: protein present in cranberries and also blueberries by the way, 379 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: UM that prevents bacteria from from binding too and thus 380 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: from infecting other cells was discovered UM, and cranberry juices 381 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: and supplements like like dried pounded cranberries and little gel 382 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: caplets UM started to be promoted as therapies again, but 383 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: no research has yet shown that this actually prevents infection 384 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: in humans. So scientifically speaking, no one knows whether cranberries 385 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: actually help with U t I s. And hey, the 386 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: cranberry juice cocktail that you buy in the store contains 387 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: a lot of sugar and acid, um, both of which 388 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: can exacerbate an already angry urinary tract. Man, do not 389 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: do not drink cranberry juice cocktail for a u T. 390 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: I maybe consider a cranberry supplement like if you want to, 391 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: but be aware that they have not consistently been performed 392 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: better than placebo. So like, don't put yourself out of 393 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: money if if you're strapped for cash, it's probably not 394 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: the care you're looking for. Um. To keep your urinary 395 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: tract healthy, drink water the kind without bubbles sometimes. Uh, 396 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: like were cotton underpants. To talk to your doctor if 397 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: you have a persistent problem. And sorry that got kind 398 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: of weirdly personal for a second there. It's cool, okay, Um, 399 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: all that being said, Uh, you know, as our seafaring 400 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: ancestors sussed out, cranberries are a great source of vitamin C. 401 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: They're also really high and antioxidants, which may help prevent 402 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: some diseases like cancer in some situations. Um, they're high 403 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: fiber and low calorie until you add a bunch of sugar, 404 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: so they're pretty filling. Um, which means that if you 405 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: like tart things, um, fresh cranberries or a fresh made 406 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: sauce that is low in sugar is really great to 407 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: add to to oatmeal or yogurt or baked goods or 408 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: sauces or roasted savory dishes or whatever. Just wash out 409 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: for that sugar, you know, by by fresh cranberries when 410 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: they're available, maybe free some make your own loue sugar 411 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: sauce to add stuff. Yeah, I'm a fan of douning that. 412 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: I like to put them in an acorn squash with 413 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: keen and cranbers. Oh no, yeah, it's good. Okay, I 414 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: want to make that right now, maybe later, all right, 415 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: but first we gotta talk about pesticides. Oh yeah, yeah, 416 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: oh man, well, welcome, welcome to my killjoy corner. Thank 417 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: you for having me. Huh, it's a show within a show. 418 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: It's gotten really meta. Um okay. According to the U 419 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: s d A Pesticide Data Program, adds of two thousand 420 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: six cranberries tested positive for thirteen different pesticides. Some of 421 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: these are classified as known carcinogens and honeybee toxins. Yeah 422 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: that's bad. Nope. Ocean Spurray did attempt growing them without 423 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: the stuff, but found it too difficult and costly. Since 424 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: cran beers are native to North America, pest have had 425 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: forever to figure out the cranberry, there by making pesticides necessary. 426 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: Their argument goes another environmental concern is the exposure to 427 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: these pesticides of the water pumped into the cranberry bog 428 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: during what hard list um where it After that it 429 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: returns to local bodies of water. Um. And this type 430 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: of runoff is not regulated by the US government. They 431 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: are a handful of companies out there growing an organic 432 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: cranberry crop. The article I was reading gave cranberry hill 433 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: farms and fresh meadow farms as examples, and the only 434 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: way they're able to do this currently is through programs 435 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: that buy their fruit at a super high price point 436 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: to help incentivize them. Yeah. And I sort of hesitate 437 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: hesitate and talking about pesticide because honestly, I don't really 438 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: know too much about them. Um. Hopefully you will rectify 439 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: this in a later episode. Absolutely very important topic. Yeah, 440 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: so grain assalted, do your own research. Um. Yeah, but 441 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: hopefully this is useful to some of you out there. 442 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: Ye worth noting. Yeah, absolutely notes it's good to good 443 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: to know where where food comes from and what the 444 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: overall cost of it is um. But that's the end 445 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: of the killjoy corner. Yeah, let's let's eat ourselves out 446 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: of this corner into the into the open wide vistas 447 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: of cranbar a culture, cranberry culture. So first, cranberry sauce. 448 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just realizing that maybe a lot 449 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: of people listening don't know. I don't know for sure 450 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: what this is. Yeah, cranberry sauce is a mixture of 451 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: cranberries and sugar. You can also put a little bit 452 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: of spices, like like maybe like a ground grind of nutmeg, 453 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: maybe some ginger in there. Yeah, that's if you homemake it, yeah, 454 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: which I love to do. That's actually way better than 455 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: the stuff most Americans get, which is like this can 456 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: and it's just a log, a jellied log that comes out. Yeah, 457 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: it's it's got so much pecked and it's so jellied 458 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: that when you open the can from one end, you 459 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: can just just wiggle an entire can shaped loaf of 460 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: this stuff out of it, which I find endlessly disturbing. Yeah, 461 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: my family used to before I started making my own um. 462 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: For some reason, we'd get it every year and no 463 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: one would eat it, Like, would put it on the 464 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: table and no one would eat it, but we kept 465 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: up the facade. I most most thanksgivings that I've been 466 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: a part of have been so entertained by how artificial 467 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: it looks that they don't bother disguising the fact that 468 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: it comes from a can. They like slice it, yes, 469 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: straight from the and like you can still see the 470 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: ridges from the can. And it's brilliant. It's bizarre. It's 471 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: something very mid century. I am very charmed by it. Yeah, 472 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: it's it's particularly weird. I'm still made a cranberry so 473 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: it's still kind of delicious. Yeah. Um, I avoided it 474 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: so hardcore. I can't honestly recall the taste. But maybe 475 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: this year, when I see that lone plate, because we 476 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: still we still put it on the table, even though 477 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: I make homemade cranberry sauce, maybe I'll give it a 478 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: give it a try. I think it's more a texture 479 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: than a taste. Really, Okay, Okay, anyway, So Americans eat 480 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: or buy and intend to eat five millions gallons of 481 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: jellied cranberry sauce each year during the holidays, just during 482 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: the holidays. According to Ocean Spray. The first jellied cranberry 483 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: sauce was canned in nineteen twelve by a lawyer turned 484 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: cranberry bog owner, Marcus L. Uron in Massachusetts. Once mechanical 485 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: harvesting was introduced and a lot of the berries came 486 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: out of the other side damaged, Ocean Spray decided to 487 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: can them since selling them fresh would be difficult. It 488 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: would be a difficult prospect and before canning technology came around, 489 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: cranberries didn't last that long. It wasn't until that the 490 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: sauce was available across the US. And the reason it's 491 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 1: so solid ish, like Lauren said, has to do with 492 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: the pecton. Yeah, but so many of the berries were 493 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: damaged and damage berries just didn't last and you don't 494 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: obviously want to take that much of a loss. Um, Yeah, 495 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: let's just can them. Let's just put him in this uh, 496 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: this can and marketed as a holiday thing. Um Uron 497 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: went on to invent the cranberry juice cocktail and a 498 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: cocktail syrup for drink mixers. In nineteen thirty, he convinced 499 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: competitors to come together to form Cranberry Canners, Inc. In 500 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: ninety seven, they change their name to Ocean Spray. Okay, 501 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: that Ocean Spray, that one. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I couldn't 502 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: bear to do a Cranberry episode without mentioning the Cosmo. 503 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: The Cosmo, Ah, that's nineties staple cocktail. It's so pink. 504 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: It's in a impossible to hold Martini glass. Seriously, what's 505 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: up with martini glasses? Question for a future episode. Oh 506 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: my goodness. Okay, the Cosmo, if you have never encountered one, 507 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: calls for vodka, quantro lime and cranberry juice, and we'll 508 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: have to do a whole cocktail hour episode about it, 509 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: because this is this one. It's one that's relatively new 510 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: onto the scene. But there's that, But there's some really 511 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: great little little bits of subculture wrapped throughout its creation. 512 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: And it seems to have originated with a late sixties 513 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: marketing directive from Ocean Spray to get more adults consuming 514 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: cranberry juice. Kids were all about it, adults were like, 515 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: what am I doing with this? Right? Put was in it? 516 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Sell it to them that way, coolever, I mean, can't 517 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: fault them for that seems to have worked. So yeah, 518 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 1: that is our brief story of the Cranberry and that 519 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: brings us to the end of this classic episode. We 520 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: hope that you enjoyed it. We hope you enjoyed any 521 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: food that you've been enjoying hopefully. Yes, yes, And we 522 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: do have a couple updates about the cranberry because, you know, 523 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: doing my due diligence, I Google. I just put goog 524 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: cranberry into Google Search before we came in here and 525 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: the band most of the band that I had to 526 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: specify my Google search. But yeah, um, so okay. In 527 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: recent years, the global supply of cranberries has outpaced demand UM, 528 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: perhaps partially because sales of cranberry juice have slumped in 529 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: these are modern like cut sugar out of our diets 530 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: times um, and that means that prices are dropping. Prices 531 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: for cranberries are dropping in some farmers are struggling with 532 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: making a living um, and even just dealing with the 533 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: amount of cranberry crop that they have. UM. Prices that 534 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: Massachusetts growers could fetch at market for their cranberries have 535 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: dropped from two yeah um and more bad news. Simultaneously, 536 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: the Triump administration's trade war with China is affecting international 537 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: cranberry markets, which were a thing that the cranberry growers 538 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: of the United States and Canada, which are the primary 539 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: ones in Chile, which kind of brings up the rear. 540 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: They had been trying to get cranberries out to more 541 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: international communities, sell more stuff always fun um and China 542 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: had started picking up on that until all of these 543 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: fun new tariffs started coming out and uh, yeah, that's 544 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: making importing cranberries in particular more expensive and so an 545 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: uncertain future for the cranberry. But so you're telling me 546 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: I should make cranberry sauce. You need to do your part. Annie, 547 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 1: all right, I'll do it. I'll take on this responsibility 548 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: as much as it pains me. You're a good person 549 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: any race. Thank you. But yes, that that is. That 550 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: is what we have by way of updates for you today. Yes, um, 551 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: and we would love to hear hear the food things 552 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: that you're excited about, that you're eating, that you want 553 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: to learn more about, and you can email those things 554 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: to us. You can. Yes, Our email is hello at 555 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: savor pod dot com. 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