Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. Hey, I'm Molly Conger and this is
Speaker 1: Weird Little Guys, the show where I tell you about
Speaker 1: the weird little guys trying to unravel the fabric of
Speaker 1: our society. I've spent years researching and writing about writing extremism,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty scary out there. I won't lie to you,
Speaker 1: but the guys trying to ruin life as we know
Speaker 1: it are also kind of freaks and losers. So here's
Speaker 1: one of them. Okay, we're going to start this off
Speaker 1: at the pop quiz. I'm going to read you a quote,
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me who said it.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a minute to think. It's multiple choice
Speaker 1: to learn who rules over you. Simply find out who
Speaker 1: you are not allowed to criticize. Was that A Benjamin Franklin, B. Voltaire, C.
Speaker 1: Socrates or D A neo Nazi pedophile on a white
Speaker 1: nationalist radio show in nineteen ninety three. Now, if you
Speaker 1: guessed B, you're in good company. Well, no, it's not
Speaker 1: good company. The company is pretty terrible. I can't say
Speaker 1: bad company without getting lost in a tangent about Timoth
Speaker 1: mcfay's obsession with the song bad Company by the band
Speaker 1: Bad Company from their album Bad Company. So I won't
Speaker 1: say the company is bad, but it's a crowd. No,
Speaker 1: the answer is actually d neo Nazi pedophile Kevin alfred Strom,
Speaker 1: and it's a slight paraphrase of something he said in
Speaker 1: an August nineteen ninety three broadcast of American Dissident Voices,
Speaker 1: the weekly radio program he hosted for the neo Nazi
Speaker 1: group National Alliance. Strome was living on the group's West
Speaker 1: Virginia compound, three hundred acres in the mountains near Hillsboro
Speaker 1: that they just call the Lamb, and he was serving
Speaker 1: as the right hand band of the group's leader, his mentor,
Speaker 1: William Luther Pierce. The broadcast was entitled all of America
Speaker 1: must know the error that is upon us, a name
Speaker 1: he borrowed from a speech given in nineteen fifty nine
Speaker 1: by another one of his great influences, Revilo p Oliver,
Speaker 1: and the quote gets new life every now and again
Speaker 1: when it's incorrectly attributed to Voltaire. In the era of
Speaker 1: public discourse about whether wearing a mask was truly the
Speaker 1: most vile form of tyranny, it made the rounds as
Speaker 1: COVID deniers pushed back against public health guidelines, like in
Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty two, when Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey
Speaker 1: posted you mustn't question Fauci for he is science, accompanied
Speaker 1: by an image of the quote, and it was sort
Speaker 1: of laid over an image. I guess that's just a
Speaker 1: meme words on a picture. The picture was of a
Speaker 1: large disembodied hand pushing down on tiny little people that
Speaker 1: it was squishing. That original image is actually an anti
Speaker 1: child labor political cartoon from nineteen twelve. If you look
Speaker 1: at the uncropped version of the original picture, the sleeve
Speaker 1: has child labor employer written on it. You know they
Speaker 1: used to label everything in a political cartoon. Garrison didn't
Speaker 1: invent that. Australian Senator Corey Bernardi tweeted the quote back
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. Contemporaneous reporting doesn't give me any insight
Speaker 1: into exactly who he felt he was being prevented from criticizing.
Speaker 1: But there was an article in the Guardian that same
Speaker 1: week about his belief that Australia should not admit any
Speaker 1: Syrian refugees because they might be terrorists. So I guess
Speaker 1: he felt he was being oppressed by refugees but whatever
Speaker 1: it was about. He responded by not just deleting that tweet,
Speaker 1: but all of his tweets, and he did not tweet
Speaker 1: again for a while. Elon Musk has unsurprisingly done it
Speaker 1: at least twice. In November of twenty twenty two, Musk
Speaker 1: posted that he was so committed to free speech that
Speaker 1: he would not ban the account that was posting information
Speaker 1: about his private plane. He did actually ban the account
Speaker 1: a month later, but a user with a doge meme
Speaker 1: profile picture replied to that tweet, so you don't rule
Speaker 1: over us, but for us much wow, accompanied by that
Speaker 1: same image that Thomas Massey the big hands squishing the
Speaker 1: little people with the text of the quote, and Musk
Speaker 1: replied to the Doge meme guy, that is my goal.
Speaker 1: After hundreds of commenters immediately pointed out that he was
Speaker 1: agreeing with a quote from a neo Nazi, he deleted
Speaker 1: the reply without addressing it. Six months later, he tweeted
Speaker 1: the exact same picture. It was a screenshot from a
Speaker 1: meme page, so it was the exact same image bearing
Speaker 1: the quote, but the text underneath it showed someone had
Speaker 1: written we need to rise up against children with leukemia.
Speaker 1: I guess the joke there is that you aren't allowed
Speaker 1: to criticize kids with cancer. That one's still up. I
Speaker 1: guess he thought that was funny, and maybe it does
Speaker 1: kind of sound like something Voltaire could have said. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not a huge fan of the Jews either. But
Speaker 1: we don't exactly know where the original misattribution to the
Speaker 1: French philosopher comes from. American etomologist Barry Popek wrote on
Speaker 1: his blog in twenty twelve that the quote seemed to
Speaker 1: appear kind of out of nowhere, with multiple Quote of
Speaker 1: the Day websites featuring it in twenty twelve, all attributing
Speaker 1: it to Voltaire. The oldest attribution to Voltaire that Pope
Speaker 1: could find super weird it was a two thousand and
Speaker 1: seven post by a user named Suzanne on a forum
Speaker 1: for miniature horse breeders. But I think that has more
Speaker 1: to do with sort of the rickety architecture of the
Speaker 1: early Internet than it is evidence that Suzanne and the
Speaker 1: mini horse ladies are anti semites. Right, that we don't
Speaker 1: really have the ability to Google. A lot of that
Speaker 1: sort of early Internet posting, Usenet forums and things like
Speaker 1: that weren't indexing to Google, So I don't think it
Speaker 1: came from the mini horse ladies, but I will admit
Speaker 1: I spent half an afternoon digging through twenty year old
Speaker 1: forum posts about miniature horse pedigrees trying to sniff out
Speaker 1: secret Nazis and didn't find any. Mostly I just discovered
Speaker 1: that some people buy the little shoes at Build a
Speaker 1: Bear Workshop for their miniature horses because they fit perfectly,
Speaker 1: and they're cheaper than the little sneakers they make for horses.
Speaker 1: So if you need a little extra traction, if you're
Speaker 1: taking a miniature horse inside, you could put Teddy Bear
Speaker 1: sneakers on him. But whoever started it, I find it
Speaker 1: hard to believe that the original misattribution was innocent. It's
Speaker 1: not a line you could really just come across anywhere
Speaker 1: on the wider Internet if you were the first person
Speaker 1: to do this, And the actual author of the quote
Speaker 1: seems to agree. In twenty seventeen, Kevin Strom addressed the issue,
Speaker 1: writing in a post on the website for the neo
Speaker 1: Nazi organization National Alliance, whoever hijacked my quote and put
Speaker 1: it over Voltaire's signature liked what I was saying. He
Speaker 1: understood my point, He understood that our secret rulers brook
Speaker 1: no criticism of themselves or their agenda without exacting punishment.
Speaker 1: He wanted to use the quote, but he didn't dare
Speaker 1: attribute it correctly. He didn't dare make his point with
Speaker 1: a quote from a known racist or anti Semite. Those
Speaker 1: are in scare quotes, no matter how good the quote was.
Speaker 1: He didn't dare follow my thoughts with my name. If
Speaker 1: he did, he'd be attacked as being racist himself. There
Speaker 1: might be personal a professional comment sequences. So he took
Speaker 1: my idea and put it in the mouth of Voltaire.
Speaker 1: Funny thing, is Voltaire, freethinker and honest observer as he was,
Speaker 1: is as much of a racist and anti semit as
Speaker 1: I am. But Voltaire has been safely dead for well
Speaker 1: over two hundred years, and his contribution to the artistic
Speaker 1: and intellectual development of our civilization is so great that
Speaker 1: it will take quite some time for his legacy to
Speaker 1: be race denounced or censored, as I'm sure the enemies
Speaker 1: of life are aching to do. So. It was relatively
Speaker 1: safe to quote Voltaire, but unsafe to quote Kevin Alfred Strome.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, I think Kevin's onto something there, you know.
Speaker 1: I hate to agree with him. But it isn't just
Speaker 1: racism and anti Semitism that makes Strome an unsavory source
Speaker 1: to quote, he is also a pedophile. Now, I know
Speaker 1: you might be saying, and I know the legal department
Speaker 1: is saying, that's kind of a strong word. Are you
Speaker 1: sure you can say that? Well, yeah, I can. I'm
Speaker 1: very sure because despite the entire section of his website
Speaker 1: devoted to debunking the accusation, one of the exhibits filed
Speaker 1: in the case that led to his stint in federal
Speaker 1: prison for a possession of child pornography is a copy
Speaker 1: of a contract he signed in the presence of a notary.
Speaker 1: In September two thousand and six, at the request of
Speaker 1: his second wife, Kevin Strom signed a document stating that
Speaker 1: he would attend counseling sessions quote until such time that
Speaker 1: such a qualified counselor will be able to indicate, too redacted,
Speaker 1: that I am free from being sexually drawn to children,
Speaker 1: or drawn to sexually explicit material of any kind concerning children,
Speaker 1: or any other characteristics of being a pedophile. There's just
Speaker 1: a lot going on there. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had anything notarized, right you
Speaker 1: sign a document in the presence of someone who is
Speaker 1: certified by the state to say they saw you sign it,
Speaker 1: so it's you know, there's no argument later about whether
Speaker 1: that's really you who signed it, because you show them
Speaker 1: your idea and they put the little stamp on it.
Speaker 1: I usually get stuff notarized at the library. It's free.
Speaker 1: Your town probably has it too. You make a little
Speaker 1: appointment and the librarian can do it for you. It's great.
Speaker 1: I love public library. I don't know where Kevin got
Speaker 1: his pedophile contract notarized. I just can't imagine, like normally
Speaker 1: you're looking at I don't know, mortgage documents and wills
Speaker 1: or I had to send a document to a court
Speaker 1: clerk to get online access to court records. Did she
Speaker 1: read this? What a bad day at work. There's nothing
Speaker 1: I can tell you that will make any sense of
Speaker 1: a man's sexual attraction to his stepdaughter's nine year old classmate.
Speaker 1: That's I can't do that. But I think there's some
Speaker 1: sense in telling you a little bit about Kevin's life
Speaker 1: up to that point. If you don't have the kind
Speaker 1: of familiarity with white supremacist movements that ends conversations at
Speaker 1: parties you've probably never heard of him, but he spent
Speaker 1: most of his adult life as the indispensable right hand
Speaker 1: of the man who wrote the novel that still serves
Speaker 1: as a blueprint and a bible for white supremacists terror.
Speaker 1: By his own telling, it was his high school history
Speaker 1: teacher who set Kevin's Strome on the path through right
Speaker 1: wing extremism, introducing him to the ultra conservative anti communist
Speaker 1: group the John Birch s Society in the early seventies.
Speaker 1: And it's probably no coincidence that the two men who
Speaker 1: would have the biggest impact on his views as an
Speaker 1: adult also came up through the JBS. Strome would later
Speaker 1: serve as the personal archivist of Vilo p Oliver, a
Speaker 1: founding member of the John Birch Society, although he was
Speaker 1: later forced to leave the group he helped found in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six after saying all the world's problems could
Speaker 1: be solved if every Jew were vaporized. So it's not
Speaker 1: that the John Birch Society wasn't anti Semitic. They just
Speaker 1: didn't want him to say out loud exactly how anti
Speaker 1: semitic they all were. It was just very embarrassing for
Speaker 1: everyone and William Luther Pierce, the man whose Nazi compound
Speaker 1: Strome lived and worked on for years, joined the American
Speaker 1: Nazi Party after deciding that John Birch Society just wasn't
Speaker 1: racist enough for him. It was a place for people
Speaker 1: who hated communism to share ideas, and a lot of
Speaker 1: those ideas were about how black and Jewish people were
Speaker 1: actually to blame, and it was said at John Birch
Speaker 1: Society meeting sometime in the late seventies when first encountered
Speaker 1: members of the newly formed National Alliance. William Luther Pierce
Speaker 1: founded National Alliance in nineteen seventy four after American Nazi
Speaker 1: Party leader George Lincoln Rockwell was shot in a laundromat
Speaker 1: parking lot by a former follower. In sixty seven, Pierce
Speaker 1: had a brief stint in the National Socialist White People's
Speaker 1: Party That's kind of a mouthful, that's just a different
Speaker 1: Nazi Party before joining up with Willis Cardo to lead
Speaker 1: the National Youth Alliance. And National Youth Alliance was formed
Speaker 1: by Cardo to focus on recruiting and radicalizing right wing
Speaker 1: college students to sort of counter the influence of groups
Speaker 1: like Students for a Democratic society, right, So it's it
Speaker 1: was the TPUSA of the George Wallace campaign years in
Speaker 1: the name of the greatest sigure that I've ever taught differ.
Speaker 1: I've read a line in the dusk and passed the
Speaker 1: garment before the theater at Turner and I say segregation.
Speaker 1: Now segregation, the MA and segregation however, and it was
Speaker 1: originally spun off of Cardo's Youth for Wallace organization. But
Speaker 1: obviously George Wallace did not become president in nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 1: and they didn't bring back segregation. And in what is
Speaker 1: going to become a theme in this story, Cardow and
Speaker 1: Pierce pretty quickly stopped getting along and eventually split entirely.
Speaker 1: The faction that left with Pierce became National Alliance in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, and in seventy five Pierce started writing
Speaker 1: the novel that is, unfortunately, his enduring legacy, The Turner Diaries.
Speaker 1: We don't have to get super deep into it today.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it will come up in most episodes of
Speaker 1: this show. Unfortunately, you know, over the last fifty years,
Speaker 1: this book has inspired a lot of race warriors. It
Speaker 1: is a fictional novel, but it's the handbook for the
Speaker 1: race war. It is a race war handbook in a
Speaker 1: fictional trench coat. And it's not very good. And I
Speaker 1: don't I mean, obviously it's not good, right. It is
Speaker 1: a terrorism. It is sort of describing how to instigate
Speaker 1: the race war and you know, kill the race traders
Speaker 1: and kill the journalists and kill black people and Jewish people.
Speaker 1: It's it is not good ideologically, obviously, but it's also
Speaker 1: just really bad. It's messy. It was originally written in
Speaker 1: a serialized format and then collected into one book, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's disjointed. He's not a great writer. He's
Speaker 1: not a great thinker. And Kevin Strom's first wife, Kirsten,
Speaker 1: told an interviewer years later that when she first met
Speaker 1: Pierce in nineteen eighty seven, she told him she had
Speaker 1: just finished reading the Turner Diaries. You know, she's at
Speaker 1: dinner with her husband and doctor Pierce. And this is
Speaker 1: I'm sure a very big deal for her husband, who
Speaker 1: is a National Alliance member, and I'm sure he hoped
Speaker 1: that his wife would just behave you know, keep sweet,
Speaker 1: just be the wife. And she tells doctor Piers, oh,
Speaker 1: he just finished reading your book. And I didn't think
Speaker 1: he was very good. She told him it was poorly written,
Speaker 1: and I mean point for Kirsten, She's right. I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine saying that to him. And it was through
Speaker 1: Pierce that Strom first met Kirsten. She was married at
Speaker 1: the time to a National Alliance member named Joseph McLaughlin.
Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty seven, the day that Rudolph hes died,
Speaker 1: Jo suggested that she call Pierce. So I wish I
Speaker 1: could be a fly on the wall on this afternoon,
Speaker 1: you know, he says to his young wife, Oh, I've
Speaker 1: just heard that the Deputy Furr died. We should call
Speaker 1: the leader of the Nazi cult that I'm in and
Speaker 1: offer our condolences, I guess. But that's what they did,
Speaker 1: and Pierce was very happy to hear from them. And
Speaker 1: as they're talking, he's thinking, you know, I think Kevin
Speaker 1: would really like this girl. Again, she's married, she's on
Speaker 1: the phone with her husband. Her husband is the one
Speaker 1: that prompted her to make this phone call. But he hears
Speaker 1: her and thinks, I've got something better for her, because
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to meet women when you're living
Speaker 1: in an off the grid Nazi compound in the Mountains
Speaker 1: of West Virginia. Pierce himself was known for selecting his
Speaker 1: brides from catalogs of Eastern European women, but I guess
Speaker 1: he thought he could pick one out for his boy,
Speaker 1: Kevin over in Arlington, you know, a little closer to home.
Speaker 1: A few months after that dinner where she told Pierce
Speaker 1: she didn't care for his novel, Kirsten left her second husband, Joe,
Speaker 1: and moved in with Kevin, and the couple was married
Speaker 1: on Chinkite Island in nineteen ninety in a ceremony officiated
Speaker 1: by William Luther Pearce. She wrote later in her memoir,
Speaker 1: I guess you know she wasn't fully sort of removed
Speaker 1: from society at this point. She was still existing in
Speaker 1: the world when she married Kevin, and so her family
Speaker 1: was at the wedding, and she describes feeling a little
Speaker 1: bit embarrassed at the way doctor Pierce talked about race
Speaker 1: in front of her family. Strange vows, and the marriage
Speaker 1: was not a happy one. That's probably not a surprise
Speaker 1: to you. Soon after the marriage, they moved out to
Speaker 1: the land again. That's the big compound in West Virginia,
Speaker 1: and she didn't love it there. She wasn't allowed to
Speaker 1: watch TV, or read newspapers or consume any of what
Speaker 1: her husband considered Jewish controlled media. They stocked wild food
Speaker 1: and weapons, and she mainly tended to her home and
Speaker 1: her children, but she says that she also helped out
Speaker 1: around the compound by stuffing envelopes to mail out copies
Speaker 1: of the group's propaganda, help fulfill orders for books. They
Speaker 1: sold Pierce's book obviously, the Turner Diaries, and a number
Speaker 1: of other sort of white nationalists publications and books. And
Speaker 1: another task that she would pitch in with was they
Speaker 1: made these sort of special waterproof PVC tubes that they
Speaker 1: would sell to members, and the purpose of the tube
Speaker 1: is to bury your guns underground so the federal government
Speaker 1: can't get them. Right. So she's raising her children, she's
Speaker 1: a housewife, she's making gun tubes for preppers and mailing
Speaker 1: out copies of the terrorism Manual, you know, just young
Speaker 1: mother stuff. And the paranoia on the compound was always there.
Speaker 1: Why else are you living on a compound if you're
Speaker 1: not a little bit paranoid. But after Ruby Ridge in
Speaker 1: ninety two and Waco in ninety three, it became unbearable.
Speaker 1: As she describes that you know, Kevin telling her things
Speaker 1: like and you keep the children away from the windows.
Speaker 1: They're going to shoot the children through the windows. Just
Speaker 1: not prompted by anything, right, just the sort of constant
Speaker 1: tension that the Feds are going to show up on
Speaker 1: any day now and they're going to shoot you. You're
Speaker 1: not going to shoot you like Ruby Ridge. It's just
Speaker 1: not a great environment for a family. And on April nineteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, Kevin came home early from work, and
Speaker 1: she said he never did that. He was never around.
Speaker 1: He would go off to his little workroom to make
Speaker 1: his little Nazi radio show for you know, dawn to
Speaker 1: dusk every day. He never came home early, but on
Speaker 1: April nineteenth, nineteen ninety five, he did. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that date means anything to normal people. It was
Speaker 1: the day of the Oklahoma City bombing. And when he
Speaker 1: came home from work that day on April nineteenth, he
Speaker 1: didn't know yet. It hadn't hit the news yet what
Speaker 1: the police found with Timothy McVeigh in the car when
Speaker 1: he was arrested. He had his favorite passages from the
Speaker 1: Turner Diaries on the car seat next to him, But
Speaker 1: he did know that the bomber had called the National
Speaker 1: Alliance Office just before detonating the bomb that killed two
Speaker 1: hundred people. Kirsten writes in her memoir that Kevin came
Speaker 1: home early from work again the next day, April twentieth,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. Came home in a hurry, and he
Speaker 1: started packing up boxes and boxes of documents and tapes
Speaker 1: and papers and reel to reel recordings of his pirate
Speaker 1: radio broadcast Voice of Tomorrow and all of his QSL cards.
Speaker 1: If you're a Ham radio guy, don't come for me.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do my best here. QSL cards are
Speaker 1: mostly a thing of the past now that we have
Speaker 1: the Internet, but they were these sort of postcards that
Speaker 1: Ham radio enthusiast and people in the pirate radio community
Speaker 1: would send through the mail to exchange in from about
Speaker 1: signal quality and strength. You'd write, you know, I am
Speaker 1: in this location, I was listening to this broadcast on
Speaker 1: this date, and this was the signal quality and in
Speaker 1: the pirate radio world, these QSL cards are real collector's items,
Speaker 1: but they're also a paper trail that the FCC would
Speaker 1: love to have. It's sort of a record of what
Speaker 1: you're listening to who you're communicating with, and he's been,
Speaker 1: you know, running an illegal anti Semitic radio show for years. Anyway,
Speaker 1: those are QSL cards, I think, And Kirsten said he
Speaker 1: burned the boxes of QSL cards. So he's packing up
Speaker 1: all these documents. He's burning the cards, and then he
Speaker 1: fills the car up with these boxes of documents and
Speaker 1: tapes and he drives several hours away to Stanton, Virginia,
Speaker 1: and drives all over town, leaving these boxes in different
Speaker 1: dumpsters in businesses. Right, so I guess you know. In
Speaker 1: April of nineteen ninety five, the Big Lots dumpster received
Speaker 1: potential evidence in the Oklahoma City bombing. Who knows, And
Speaker 1: the worst thing really was that it ruined Hitler's birthday,
Speaker 1: which was usually a very lively occasion on the compound.
Speaker 1: It wasn't long after the bombing that the couple moved
Speaker 1: to Rochester, Minnesota. They chose it because it was ninety
Speaker 1: six percent white. Of course, it was in Rochester where
Speaker 1: Kirsten gave birth to their third child, and it was
Speaker 1: pretty clear that she was suffering from what was probably
Speaker 1: postpartum depression. She describes an incident just weeks after giving
Speaker 1: birth when she was allowed to listen to a little
Speaker 1: bit of the radio to hear a weather report, and
Speaker 1: she caught the tail end of a news story about
Speaker 1: a young couple that killed their baby in a hotel
Speaker 1: room to cover up the fact that they'd gotten pregnant.
Speaker 1: And that's upsetting for anyone to hear. But I think
Speaker 1: if you're a brand new mother, that's overwhelming, right. So
Speaker 1: she's a new mother, she's holding her baby. She hears
Speaker 1: about a baby that died, and she starts crying. I
Speaker 1: think there's nothing more normal in the world than to
Speaker 1: cry when you hear about a dead baby. But Kevin
Speaker 1: yelled at her. He rebuked her for this, saying it
Speaker 1: was good that the baby was dead because its mother
Speaker 1: was Jewish. And it wasn't long after that that she
Speaker 1: finally got up the courage to read a magazine article
Speaker 1: about the Oklahoma City bombing. She obviously had very little
Speaker 1: access to media and was afraid to find out more
Speaker 1: about this. Anyway, she picked up a magazine and she's
Speaker 1: leaping through it and she sees pictures, and she told
Speaker 1: an interviewer later, I was thinking about this child being
Speaker 1: held by a fireman doesn't look any different than my
Speaker 1: son and he's covered with blood, and that whole idea
Speaker 1: that there really isn't any difference, that children are children
Speaker 1: all came to me. It all came together on that date.
Speaker 1: And it was around this time that Kirsten spent some
Speaker 1: time in a psychiatric hospital. Can't really blame her. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine trying to integrate that into my psyche. And
Speaker 1: she'd been begging for help for years, but Kevin didn't
Speaker 1: believe in that kind of thing. She'd been prescribed antidepressants
Speaker 1: after the birth of their second child, but he hadn't
Speaker 1: allowed her to take them while she was in the hospital.
Speaker 1: He left her and took the children. A year's long
Speaker 1: custody battle followed, and even though he is an out
Speaker 1: and out neo Nazi, it's not a secret at this point.
Speaker 1: His name is in the newspaper next to William Luther
Speaker 1: Peers and Timothy mcfay. He's the protege of the man
Speaker 1: who wrote the book that inspired the Oklahoma City bombing.
Speaker 1: He has no real job outside of editing a Nazi
Speaker 1: magazine and ghostwriting for David Duke. In spite of all
Speaker 1: of that, the battle ended in a draw. Years in
Speaker 1: court right. She was only able to keep fighting this
Speaker 1: custody battle because the SPLC helped her get a lawyer.
Speaker 1: And I think at some point she sold photographs that
Speaker 1: she had taken of other National Alliance members on the compound.
Speaker 1: She sold them to the SPLC for enough money to
Speaker 1: just keep trying, but shared custody. And so at the
Speaker 1: end of those three years in court, Kevin was already
Speaker 1: married to his second wife, Alicia. And it was Alicia
Speaker 1: who came home one day to find her husband, Kevin,
Speaker 1: sitting in front of his computer. He was completely nude
Speaker 1: and fully erect. And I'm so I don't love having
Speaker 1: to say that. I mean, I guess I chose to
Speaker 1: say it. I did write this, but I don't like
Speaker 1: the way that feels. But he was at his computer, naked,
Speaker 1: rock hard and looking at pictures of little girls, clothed girls.
Speaker 1: The girls had clothes on. Right. He had access to
Speaker 1: child pornography. We know that, But on that particular day,
Speaker 1: she walked in on him looking at what, under other
Speaker 1: circumstances would have been perfectly normal photographs of children. These
Speaker 1: were children they knew, right, family friends, the children of
Speaker 1: other National Alliance members. Photos he'd taken of children in
Speaker 1: their lives, friends of her daughters. But it wasn't normal
Speaker 1: because of the you know, the totality of the circumstances here,
Speaker 1: and that's what prompted the pedophilia contract. Because she'd already
Speaker 1: caught him looking at actual child pornography the year before,
Speaker 1: so she already she already knew, but this was a
Speaker 1: bridge too far. These were children that he had access
Speaker 1: to right when she caught him the year before looking
Speaker 1: at the child pornography. They'd started going to marriage counseling,
Speaker 1: but this was this was too much. She decided he
Speaker 1: needed individual counseling to address this specifically, and she later
Speaker 1: testified that it was at this point that she started
Speaker 1: sleeping on the floor outside her daughter's bedroom. And his
Speaker 1: marriage was not the only thing in Kevin's life that
Speaker 1: was falling apart in two thousand and six. After William
Speaker 1: Luther Pierce died in two thousand and two, National Alliance
Speaker 1: was thrown into chaos. His handpicked successor, Eric Gleeb, was
Speaker 1: losing control of the organization. In two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: National Alliances Membership Coordinator quit, leaving behind a public letter
Speaker 1: demanding an audit of the organization's finances, accusing Glebe of
Speaker 1: mismanaging member dues. In April of two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: Strong attempted a coup of sorts, getting dozens of signatures
Speaker 1: on a letter demanding Glebe's resignation. Gleb responded by firing
Speaker 1: him Barnough, but then he did actually step down just
Speaker 1: a few days after that, leaving Sean Walker in charge
Speaker 1: of National Alliance. And you know another sort of tangent here.
Speaker 1: Gleeb would actually return as chairman just a year later
Speaker 1: because Shawn Walker, the guy that took over for him
Speaker 1: when he quit, had to go to prison on a
Speaker 1: gun thing. So it's really just kind of a revolving door.
Speaker 1: Nobody really knows who's in charge here, but Kevin's out.
Speaker 1: But if this one thing these guys love, it is
Speaker 1: a splinter group. So Kevin responds to being fired from
Speaker 1: the organization he'd devoted his entire adult life to by
Speaker 1: founding his own and he called it National Vanguard, which
Speaker 1: is the same as the publication he'd been editing for
Speaker 1: National Alliance for years. So he already was using the
Speaker 1: name National Vanguard because that was National Alliance's publication that
Speaker 1: he was in charge of, so he already owned a
Speaker 1: domain easy for him, and some National Alliance chapters followed him.
Speaker 1: So he's pretty busy trying to helm his newly formed
Speaker 1: splinter group. He's traveling to chapters in different states trying
Speaker 1: to shore up support. He's speaking, he's recruiting, and he's
Speaker 1: just trying to get this thing off the ground. But
Speaker 1: he's not so busy that he can't make time to
Speaker 1: see the new love of his life, a nine year old.
Speaker 1: In September two thousand and five, Kevin met one of
Speaker 1: his stepdaughter's elementary school classmates, a girl identified in court
Speaker 1: documents only as AA, which thankfully are not her real initials.
Speaker 1: She was nine at the time, and I'll set your
Speaker 1: mind at ease up front. He never touched her. There's
Speaker 1: no allegation that he ever touched a child, so that's
Speaker 1: some consolation, I think. And none of the naked photos
Speaker 1: of children they found on his hard drive were of her.
Speaker 1: Right again, there's no allegation that he ever took photos
Speaker 1: of children who were naked. He just was weird about
Speaker 1: taking photos of clothes. But he showed up at her
Speaker 1: school so many times that her parents pulled her out
Speaker 1: of private school and sent her back to public school.
Speaker 1: He drove by her house, he sent her flowers and gifts,
Speaker 1: and he wrote poems and love songs, and ultimately the
Speaker 1: charge of sexual enticement of a miner, which was one
Speaker 1: of the things he was originally charged with, was dismissed
Speaker 1: Judge Norman Moon, who is shockingly still on the bench.
Speaker 1: I saw Judge Moon not too long ago said there
Speaker 1: was overwhelming evidence that Strom was attracted to the girl,
Speaker 1: but that there wasn't sufficient evidence that he'd actually tried
Speaker 1: to sexually coerce her. Right, So he's trying to romance
Speaker 1: this child, but he didn't sexually coerce her. Right, He's
Speaker 1: buying her flowers and showing up at her house, but
Speaker 1: he didn't physically coerce her. And I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know where the line is there. I'm not comfortable
Speaker 1: with that. If a grown man is hiding behind a
Speaker 1: tree outside of an elementary school trying to get close
Speaker 1: to the child, he's writing poems about marrying, there's gotta
Speaker 1: be something we could do about that, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If a guy is taking time out of his busy
Speaker 1: schedule meeting with David Duke and writing blog posts about
Speaker 1: racial purity to download a little girls school schedule. There's
Speaker 1: gotta be some kind of intervention. But even though Judge
Speaker 1: Moon said it wasn't illegal to send romantic gifts to
Speaker 1: a fifth grader, the behavior did prompt an investigation. His
Speaker 1: wife is rightly very concerned. They start going to counseling.
Speaker 1: She catches him looking at child pornography and tries to
Speaker 1: call the police. And so here this is a little
Speaker 1: he said, she said, right, So they both agreed that
Speaker 1: there was an altercation. She says that she hit him
Speaker 1: because she was trying to call the police, and then
Speaker 1: he tried to stop her by choking her. This is
Speaker 1: where the witness intimidation charge comes in that was ultimately
Speaker 1: dropped at trial. But regardless of how it started, she
Speaker 1: hit him over the head with the phone so hard
Speaker 1: that he had to go to the hospital. So they
Speaker 1: go back to marriage counseling. In July two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: he announces he's taking a step back from his new
Speaker 1: Nazi splinter group, citing family issues. You know the classic line,
Speaker 1: I've got to take a step back from the work
Speaker 1: to spend more time with my family. In this case,
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like spending more time with his family
Speaker 1: is really in anybody's best interest. But he abandons National Vanguard.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't have time for it right now. And
Speaker 1: a month after that, unbeknownst to him, his wife gives
Speaker 1: his computer hard drive to the police. In an October,
Speaker 1: federal agents search his home. Notably, the FBI agents that
Speaker 1: come to search his house are from the Joint Terrorism
Speaker 1: Task Force. I don't know that child sex abuse material
Speaker 1: usually involves the JTTF, but in this case it did,
Speaker 1: and specifically, the agent on the warrant was a Charlesville
Speaker 1: police officer on loan to the task force. Did I
Speaker 1: mention that this takes place in Charlottesville. It's just it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem right, does it. But the agent on the
Speaker 1: warrant is Charlesville police officer who is on loan to
Speaker 1: the JTTF. Brian O'Donnell and Alicia, that's Kevin's wife at
Speaker 1: the time, claimed very publicly and for years that she
Speaker 1: was sleeping with O'Donnell at the time of the trial,
Speaker 1: and she even produced audio that she claims as a
Speaker 1: recording of a phone call between the two of them
Speaker 1: where they're talking about the affair. I won't tell you
Speaker 1: with certainty that she was sleeping with the cop in
Speaker 1: charge of investigating her pedophile husband. He has not admitted that.
Speaker 1: I think he has denied that, but that was her
Speaker 1: claim for many years. For what it's worth, she was
Speaker 1: later arrested several times for stalking and doxing cops. Here
Speaker 1: in the Charlottesville area, we have what's called the Jefferson
Speaker 1: Area Drug Enforcement Task Force. It's a multi jurisdictional drug
Speaker 1: enforcement unit. And she ran a blog devoted to doxing
Speaker 1: the undercover cops that did drug stings. So again, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't got to hand it to her. She is
Speaker 1: not innocent in all of this. She was a true believer,
Speaker 1: just like Kevin. But I don't know, running the cop
Speaker 1: doxing blog not bad. Eventually, the ACLU actually took up
Speaker 1: her case, defending her right to run a blog dedicated
Speaker 1: to identifying undercovered drug officers. She spent a little bit
Speaker 1: of time in jail, but I think ultimately she was
Speaker 1: vindicated in her cop doxing blog. It's just such a
Speaker 1: weird rabbit hole here. It's just such a strange side
Speaker 1: tangent that has nothing to do with Kevin because he's
Speaker 1: out of her life at this point, right, But just
Speaker 1: a weird crossover. I wish I could go back in
Speaker 1: time and see Tim Longo's the Charlesville police chief. Back
Speaker 1: then he met with Alicia and just bagging tarries like
Speaker 1: I can't make you right. You're not breaking the law.
Speaker 1: We settled that, but please please log off. Please stop
Speaker 1: posting pictures of cops, houses and cars. It's upsetting the boys.
Speaker 1: Just bizarre, another strange crossover, Just totally bizarre. I guess
Speaker 1: it's just a quirk of small town life. But it's
Speaker 1: one of her many trials. The prosecutor was Denise Lunsford.
Speaker 1: She was back then in the Prosecutor's office in al
Speaker 1: Marle County. After working as a prosecutor, she would go
Speaker 1: back to defense work and she was actually the court
Speaker 1: appointed defense attorney at the James Alexfield's murder trial. So
Speaker 1: just everything comes full circle, I guess. And O'Donnell, the
Speaker 1: officer working Strome's case for the JTTF. Again, he denied
Speaker 1: the affair. He says he was not sleeping with Alicia,
Speaker 1: but he actually stayed on at the Charlesville Police Department
Speaker 1: for another decade or so, long enough to serve as
Speaker 1: one of the zone commanders for the police presence in
Speaker 1: downtown Charlottesville on August twelfth, twenty seventeen. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: any of this to start a conspiracy there. There's really
Speaker 1: no conspiracy here. It's just a quirk of a little
Speaker 1: city characters getting recycled. But circling back, I digress that
Speaker 1: JTTF involvement in this small town child pornography case is
Speaker 1: what fuels Strom's personal conspiracy theory that he was set up.
Speaker 1: He maintains to this day that he was targeted by
Speaker 1: the JTTF because they were unhappy with him or his
Speaker 1: coverage of the two thousand and four federal trial of
Speaker 1: Chester Doles. Of all the things to think that this
Speaker 1: is about, I think that's just so stupid. Doles was
Speaker 1: a longtime clansman, but by the early two thousands was
Speaker 1: in leadership at National Alliance and he was on trial
Speaker 1: for some kind of federal gun charge. He did something silly.
Speaker 1: He was a felon for some prior hate crimes. He
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to have a gun. He did go to
Speaker 1: prison again, got back out. He tried to run for
Speaker 1: office in Georgia two years ago. Anyway, Strome attended the
Speaker 1: trial to support Doles, obviously as a National Alliance member,
Speaker 1: and he was also writing about the case for National
Speaker 1: Alliances website to sort of help boost awareness of the
Speaker 1: case because they were raising money for Doles's family. But
Speaker 1: Strome says that at the courthouse a JGTF agent looked
Speaker 1: at him and said, Strome, you're next. So he thinks
Speaker 1: that they hated his blog so much that they tried
Speaker 1: to send him to prison. I know, I'm saying that, like,
Speaker 1: it's so stupid when I just told you that, like
Speaker 1: his wife wrote a blog bit was so bad the
Speaker 1: cops tried to send her to jail. But I just
Speaker 1: don't think the FBI cared that much about his blog.
Speaker 1: I really don't, because I've got a different theory I
Speaker 1: found buried in this mountain of documents produced pursued into
Speaker 1: a FOI request by Didas Secrets founder Ema Best, an
Speaker 1: FBI memo dated April eighteenth, two thousand and five. Remember
Speaker 1: that's the week of Kevin's attempted coup. So he's trying
Speaker 1: to seize control of National Alliance from Eric Glebe, but
Speaker 1: instead he gets fired and he splinters off National Vanguard.
Speaker 1: So in this FBI memo, which was written just days
Speaker 1: before all of that happened, the agent writes National Alliance
Speaker 1: fracturing continued and accelerated this weekend. And the agent speculates
Speaker 1: that a splinter group led by a former staffer is
Speaker 1: likely to form, And he actually writes a name, but
Speaker 1: it's acted obviously, but based on the character wits, I
Speaker 1: can't think of another guy whose name would fit. It's
Speaker 1: a Kevin Strom length redaction, if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The memos author advises agents to assess the potential of
Speaker 1: a lone wolf acting out of frustration over the lack
Speaker 1: of progress that organized groups have been able to make
Speaker 1: in their goals, and the document concludes by saying, quote
Speaker 1: to some degree, I believe that National Alliance had a
Speaker 1: stabilizing effect on the majority of its members, and with
Speaker 1: the growing instability of the organization, individual actions by these
Speaker 1: people will become more difficult to anticipate and certainly more
Speaker 1: difficult to cover with sources. So if you don't speak
Speaker 1: cop right, what he's saying is that the collapse of
Speaker 1: a group that size which had long relied on the
Speaker 1: somewhat stabilizing effect of a charismatic leader, would make it
Speaker 1: harder to infiltrate, harder to monitor, and harder to predict.
Speaker 1: And some of these guys might do terrorism. Right that
Speaker 1: if this group collapses, if they don't have the stability
Speaker 1: and the framework of a leader keeping them in line,
Speaker 1: they're gonna blow stuff up. And the FBI already had
Speaker 1: an idea about strow right, It was sort of an
Speaker 1: open secret for years that he was a little weird
Speaker 1: about little girls. His ex wife Kirsten, spoke to the
Speaker 1: FBI years earlier, though it's not clear what specific allegations
Speaker 1: she made about his proclivities. In the nineties, he maintained
Speaker 1: a personal website with an entire section dedicated to the
Speaker 1: beauty of the White race, which, like, I mean, normal
Speaker 1: enough for a Nazi, right, like the beauty of the
Speaker 1: Aryan woman or whatever, like a Pinterest board for the
Speaker 1: fourteen words. But it was weirder than that. Right, even
Speaker 1: at the time and even within the movement. It raised
Speaker 1: eyebrows because the pictures were not of adult women, right,
Speaker 1: It was the beauty of Aryan little girls, again clothed
Speaker 1: but weird, just kind of freak behavior. And Kirston wrote
Speaker 1: in her memoir, which was published years before his arrest,
Speaker 1: she's not writing this after she already knows she's writing
Speaker 1: this prior to his arrest, that during their custody battle,
Speaker 1: she actually went to the police about that section of
Speaker 1: his website, and the police agreed that it was super unsettling,
Speaker 1: but that ultimately it was not illegal because the girls
Speaker 1: were clothed. She said in an interview later that Alicia,
Speaker 1: the second wife, called her after Kevin got arrested. She
Speaker 1: said that for the first two years of her marriage
Speaker 1: she tried to figure out what was wrong with her,
Speaker 1: and for the second two years she tried to figure
Speaker 1: out what was wrong with him. The fact is he
Speaker 1: wasn't interested in me either once we got married. You know,
Speaker 1: often when someone gets arrested for something like this, people
Speaker 1: come out of the word work and they say, oh,
Speaker 1: I always knew something was kind of weird about that guy.
Speaker 1: I always knew. Why didn't you say anything? First of all?
Speaker 1: But in this case, we have sources that predate his arrest,
Speaker 1: so this isn't a hindsight thing. People were saying this
Speaker 1: for years. Some posts on a white nationalist message board
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three discussed the photos. Even one
Speaker 1: user writes, back some years ago, when Strom first came
Speaker 1: on the internet, he ran a series of pictures of
Speaker 1: young white girls which some people found objectionable, but I
Speaker 1: did not. They weren't naked or in suggestive poses or
Speaker 1: anything like that, And what the hell is wrong with
Speaker 1: celebrating the beauty of the women of our race. Even
Speaker 1: the other Nazis pushed back against that. They're like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man. The photos were of the children of
Speaker 1: other National Alliance members. These aren't just random pictures of
Speaker 1: kids he found online. These aren't stock photos. These are
Speaker 1: photos he took of children in his life. Would photograph
Speaker 1: children playing on the compound and post them online without
Speaker 1: their parents' permission, which is weird enough. But the website
Speaker 1: also had another section, so this is on a separate
Speaker 1: page of the website, but it's on the website. There
Speaker 1: were also photos of himself posing in what the users
Speaker 1: on the message board call beefcake poses in underwear that
Speaker 1: they describe as fruit of the looms. I'm so I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. Another exasperated user wrote, why why do these
Speaker 1: things happen? Why even under the best of circumstances, the
Speaker 1: movement always tainted with just a slight tinge of cadaverine smell.
Speaker 1: Why are we constantly confronted with this kind of just
Speaker 1: plain weird behavior, even among those who claim to be, and,
Speaker 1: to our reluctant agreement, usually are the best people we've got.
Speaker 1: Why can't we have so much as one single leader
Speaker 1: who is just simply normal. Why must there always be
Speaker 1: these little weird kibbles and bits, these little oddities, these
Speaker 1: little bits of quirky behavior lurking in the background of
Speaker 1: everything we do. Why must we always hold our breath
Speaker 1: around our leaders, never knowing what horrible surprise lurks in
Speaker 1: their past, waiting to spring out and piss all over
Speaker 1: everything like a giggling, deranged baby. Why do we even bother?
Speaker 1: Is this really truly the best we can do? And
Speaker 1: to that, I say, I think so. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it is the best they can do. The movement is
Speaker 1: full of aspiring hitlers, but they're all just absolute fucking weirdohs,
Speaker 1: even aside from the whole Nazi thing. So if the
Speaker 1: FBI wanted to take out one head of this hydra
Speaker 1: to cut off the potential for this splinter group to
Speaker 1: further split one of the country's more powerful white supremacist organizations.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be hard, right, I'm saying that these two
Speaker 1: things exist separately. He was already a pedophile. They had
Speaker 1: an existing desire to prevent this splinter group from taking hold,
Speaker 1: and they just kind of lucked out, right, Like, if
Speaker 1: the cops might come after you, don't do them a
Speaker 1: favor by doing other crimes, Like if you're a mob boss,
Speaker 1: pay your taxes, right, Who knows? We do know Alicia
Speaker 1: turned over that hard drive to the police, but it's
Speaker 1: impossible to know if she did that of her own
Speaker 1: volition or if she'd been approached by agents looking to
Speaker 1: get him on something. Right, Both of those are very
Speaker 1: easy to believe. He was horrible to her, you know,
Speaker 1: by her account, he tried to choke her, he's looking
Speaker 1: at child pornography. She's afraid for her daughter. I think that,
Speaker 1: even on its own, is enough motivation for even a
Speaker 1: true believer, a member of the movement, to say something
Speaker 1: has to be done. This isn't acceptable. But it's also
Speaker 1: very easy to believe that the FBI would approach her
Speaker 1: and say, you know, we can help you if you
Speaker 1: help us. Who knows. We'll never know. She would say
Speaker 1: that she never did that, right. She says that she
Speaker 1: didn't give any information to the police. But we know
Speaker 1: that's not true because it's in court documents that she
Speaker 1: voluntarily produced the hard trime. So we'll never really get
Speaker 1: a straight answer. You know, he really just stepped on
Speaker 1: a rake here. You know, maybe the Feds never would
Speaker 1: have gotten involved at all if not for a little
Speaker 1: girl's mother who called the police because some weird middle
Speaker 1: aged man wouldn't stop showing up at her daughter's school. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Strome did plead guilty to one count of possessing child
Speaker 1: pornography and was sentenced to twenty three months, with the
Speaker 1: year he'd already served before pleading guilty. He was released
Speaker 1: just a few months later in September of two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, and Strome was sort of in the wilderness
Speaker 1: for a bit after his stint in prison. By twenty thirteen, though,
Speaker 1: who is back in it with National Alliance. He registered
Speaker 1: an account under his own name on the group's online forum,
Speaker 1: and the following year Glebe steps down again, leaving William
Speaker 1: White Williams the head of National Alliance, and he's still
Speaker 1: in charge over there today of what's left of it.
Speaker 1: And yes, that is William White. Williams, that is his name,
Speaker 1: William W. Williams. Not to be confused with William White,
Speaker 1: that is a Nazi for a different day, I promise,
Speaker 1: though we'll get to William White anyway. Williams he was
Speaker 1: a longtime Strome ally, so he brings him back into
Speaker 1: the fold and reinstates him as the group's media director.
Speaker 1: And he also introduced Strome to the woman who'd become
Speaker 1: his third wife, Meredith Keller. And Keller started writing to
Speaker 1: Williams in twenty twelve when she was still an undergraduate
Speaker 1: in college, and Williams introduced her to Strome soon after. So,
Speaker 1: just as William Luther Pierce had selected Kirsten for Kevin
Speaker 1: back in nineteen eighty seven, the Alliance's new chairman's playing
Speaker 1: matchmaker again again, Kevin's like fifty at this point and
Speaker 1: she is just graduating college, so not illegal, but it
Speaker 1: is weird. It is weird. And under the pseudonym Vanessa Neubauer,
Speaker 1: Meredith served as the secretary for the Cosmotheist Church that's
Speaker 1: the fake Nazi religion that William Luther Peers invented to
Speaker 1: get tax exempt status after the IRS said no the
Speaker 1: first time in nineteen seven eight. Strom's engagement to Meredith
Speaker 1: was announced in an October twenty fifteen member newsletter, but
Speaker 1: a police report two months later says she called the
Speaker 1: police when he wouldn't let her leave the house when
Speaker 1: she tried to end their relationship. No charges were filed,
Speaker 1: and I guess the police having to come because you're
Speaker 1: holding a woman hostage isn't a probation violation because there's
Speaker 1: no documentation in his federal court file that he had
Speaker 1: a police contact of this sort. Who knows. So he
Speaker 1: didn't get in trouble and they didn't break up. The
Speaker 1: couple attended one of the last Trump campaign rallies together
Speaker 1: just two weeks before the twenty sixteen election. In a
Speaker 1: broadcast of American Dissident Voices that week, Stroma pined that
Speaker 1: Trump had opened the door for a full on Hitler
Speaker 1: to emerge in the not too distant future, ending the
Speaker 1: broadcast with optimism at the speed with which the Overton
Speaker 1: window was shifting rightward, saying, never before has the window
Speaker 1: of topics opened for public debate been moved so far
Speaker 1: and so fast in our direction. Kevin and Meredith married
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. There were some rumors of the weird
Speaker 1: corners of the Internet that Strom had wanted to move
Speaker 1: his new family back to the compound in West Virginia.
Speaker 1: But everybody kind of said no to that, not because
Speaker 1: they didn't want a convicted sex offender around the families
Speaker 1: that live there. Now, that wasn't a big deal. They
Speaker 1: don't think he was guilty, right, he was railroad and
Speaker 1: it was fake whatever. But because of his mandatory sex
Speaker 1: offender registration, that would mean that a photograph of the
Speaker 1: compound would appear on the sex Offender Registry website, and
Speaker 1: people weren't comfortable with that. I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't repeat Internet rumors, but take it
Speaker 1: with a grainisal. The couple lived for several years in
Speaker 1: a home provided to him by a supporter from New
Speaker 1: Jersey before purchasing a house a few hours north of
Speaker 1: the compound in a town outside of Pittsburgh. She gave
Speaker 1: birth to their third child together, his sixth last summer.
Speaker 1: As of last September, Strom is no longer under supervision
Speaker 1: and no longer appears on the Sex Offender Registry. He
Speaker 1: and his wife appear as signatories on documents filed with
Speaker 1: the Pocahontas County Clerk in West Virginia approving the lease
Speaker 1: of some land owned by the Cosmothius Church to a
Speaker 1: third party in twenty eighteen. He still hosts American Dissonant Voices,
Speaker 1: the weekly broadcast he started in nineteen ninety one, and
Speaker 1: still posts regularly on the website of the foundering neo
Speaker 1: Nazi organization that he's given his life to. So Voltaire
Speaker 1: didn't say it. A life long adherent to the teachings
Speaker 1: of one of America's most influential Nazi leaders, said it
Speaker 1: from a little bunker in the mountains of West Virginia.
Speaker 1: Just a weird little guy who, according to one ex wife,
Speaker 1: was known to disappear for hours locked in the bathroom,
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