1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: they blowing down the sidelines. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: This he's hanging with the boys. 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Now. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly and Shannon Gross. 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: Shannon, it's Monday. You're looking live. I've at Toe Studio's 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: Championship Plaza where it is a brisk forty five degrees 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: partly cloudy. The tree is lit unlike the Cowboys scoreboard. 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Across from me is Kurt two pumps Daniels three gets 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: you a flag. 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Oh. 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: Next to me is Lark Nathaniel. We've got Chris Beam 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: in the back. I am not Salt and Pepper Poppy, 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: but you can call me cool Ranch Rodriguez. All right, 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: this is hanging with the Bulls, the sports talk equivalent 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: of Braille. People when we speak and we are here 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: on behalf of Wingstop because Wingstop. 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: Is I like Jesse and Shannon. 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not here. I am not Jesse or Shannon. 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: It's Shannon. I get it. By the way, fellas happy 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: to be here. Didn't want to skip out because we 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: didn't have Shannon, we didn't have Jesse, but we also 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: didn't want to leave the fans without an episode of 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: Hanging with the Boys. I'm humbly stepping in on behalf 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: of them just to provide some extra content for you guys. 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: We don't want to miss anything. We want to give 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Nate his platform to speak out and Kurt as well. 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: We've got some good notes. 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no. 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: I was talking to Josh at at at Bud sitting 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: up at the training table. You know, we we get 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: a chance to eat where the players eat at, you know, 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: big being not the industry that Cowboy Facilities have here, 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: and we just what are some of the things that 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: interest you, whether it's going to the draft, whether it's 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: about the game, whether it was what you think the 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: futures or what you don't like about this seeing what 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: out of the needs of this team. 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: What stands out do you? 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: Wherever you want to go And it's just roundtable, you know, 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: for real, that's just you know, you know wherever you 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: want to start at, Josh, and you open it up 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: and let's go. 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: Baby, I want to open it up. And there's so 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: many topics to cover, like you just laid out for 48 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: as Nate, But I think kind of what you what 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: our fans are, what your fans, your listeners are expecting, 50 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: is sort of a reaction to the game, and basically 51 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: not just the game itself, but the season where we 52 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: are now. You were a desperate team going in there. 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: You just needed Philly to lose two of their next four, 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: and they beat the Raiders, what you expected. But the 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: Dallas Cows are desert team fighting for their lives going 56 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: up against the Minnesota Vikings, who are all but out 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: of the playoffs. They are definitely out. They are out 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: of the playoffs, and you're fighting for your playoff lives 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: coming off of that performance and eight, what is your 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: gut reaction after that game? 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: You know, Kurt and these other guys have heard me 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: say I have. I looked at the season from training 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: camp way different than everybody else. 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be a. 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: New head coach, knew our cores was less than you know, 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: everybody normally has a thirty percent turnover, well oves was 67 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: greater than that. We knew we was hurting at a 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: lot of positions. So I understood this's going into training camp. 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: I understood this leaving out of training camp, So my 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: expectations were not the same as everybody's else. I wanted 71 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: to see this team grow. I wanted to see this 72 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: team become competitive. And in a few positions we have 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: become competitive, and a lot of positions we haven't. We 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: have them became competitive in our tackles, we have them, 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: became competitive at our linebackers, and I'm still waiting for 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: our safeties to be a little bit better. And so 77 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: those are the things that I thought going in. Those 78 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: are the things during the season. Now we could have 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: added defensive line in there, but they have. 80 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: They have done a. 81 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: Tremendous job with our defensive lineman. And that is outside uh, 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: the tackles, the ends, and then in the one technique. 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: I think it is in place. I think I can 84 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: take this anywhere. We may have to get a depth 85 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: player if Clowney doesn't come back, but we got the depth, 86 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: and we got the players on our front, on our front, 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: five or six guys, So I'm good there. We have 88 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: interior offensive linemen, I'm good there. Focus on yeah and 89 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: so yeah, so I'm not good with our secondary and 90 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: I'm not good with our linebackers. But and that's the 91 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: only place I was truly thought we had advantage was 92 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 2: our linebackers, and we didn't. 93 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: We didn't. We don't have that advantage. That's that's that's 94 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: just my overall field. Kirk. 95 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: Well, see last night I kind of came into question 96 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 4: because I agreed with you. I thought our defensive line 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: was pretty well said. But you look at these last 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 4: two games. They got no pressure last night, So I 99 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: don't know, is this have they figured out this five 100 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: man front we were all excited about. I mean, after 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: those first three games with Quinn Williams, man, we were 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: we were going to Super Bowl. You know, everybody's fired up. 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: And now these last two it's just especially last night, 104 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: but like the same old team. 105 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: Did you feel like your coordinator put you in the 106 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: best position after those first two drives you were able 107 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: to generate pressure. I mean you you had the interception 108 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: quin Williams interception on that first drive. I mean I 109 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: felt like the pressure was there. But what about the 110 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: Ikings sort of pulled Eberflus back into saying like, Okay, 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: we need to focus on coverage now and focus less 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: on the pressure because I mean, for all intents and purposes, 113 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: what we've seen from JJ McCarthy has been the more 114 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: time he's had to throw, the worse of a passer. 115 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: He is the worst completion percentage he has, So, I mean, 116 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: all indicators said that you don't have to pressure him 117 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: as much for him to play poorly, but he kind 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: of had a get right game yesterday. I guess my 119 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: thinking is, like, do you feel that last night was 120 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: a step back in the progression that we took during 121 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: that gauntlet, the three game stretch where you beat Super 122 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: Bowl champions and you beat the Raiders. 123 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 4: Yeah? I do in some ways, because again, I think 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: we've all kind of been trying to give matt I 125 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: Reflus the benefit of the doubt. I hate to see 126 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: them bring in another coordinator, the fourth one in four 127 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: years or whatever it be. But you just got a 128 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 4: question like they were having some success early with the blitz, 129 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: like you said, and they just lately went away from it. 130 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 4: I don't This is from Bobby bellt he's with the 131 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: Flagship station, but he he said that his stats were 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: Dallas blitzed him just seven times, McCarthy just seven times 133 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: and only once in the second half. They were having success. 134 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: McCarthy's rating when they blitzer was seventy two point two. 135 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: When he didn't, he was a one twenty four point five. 136 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: So why are you I don't understand back off now. 137 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: I don't know the intricacies of the schemes and maybe 138 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: the secondary couldn't hold. I don't know what it was, 139 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: But why are you just demandoning it? 140 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: The thing that we won't you know? And I got 141 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: told Josh when we were sitting down there eating lunch. 142 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: The reason I was not against and I'm still not 143 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: against getting rid of eva Flus until the season is over, 144 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: because you thought we're in a bad mess. If wouldy 145 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: got rid of this guy in the middle of the season, 146 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: would have been any even terrible mess. The thing is, 147 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: we have been successful in showing down the run, but. 148 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: You got a rookie in Revel. This is what is 149 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: fourth game. 150 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: And he had no off season to speak of. 151 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: He's you got a Carson's uh, and then you got 152 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: uh Bridge Bridge bridges Bridge. I mean, we were trying 153 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: to really make guys that are inexperience and guys that 154 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: are not very good. 155 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: We're trying to make them better than what they are. Uh. 156 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: You can blitz, but that that that head coach, he's 157 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: no dummy, he made adjustments. And and and I challenged Bobby, 158 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: I challenge everybody, Okay, did these coaches change anything when 159 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: you started blitzing them. Did they make some type of 160 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: moves or some adjustments to help other players get open? Now, 161 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: like I tell people I'm with, at the end of 162 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: the year, they get rid of coach eva Flus, no problem. 163 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: You bring in next guy, hopefully before the draft, so 164 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: you can kind of bring in who he. 165 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Wants in here. 166 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: But I understand it's gonna be some growing pains with 167 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: that too. And because the answer is not gonna always 168 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: be get rid of the coach. That's not gonna always 169 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: be the answer. So the person yes, So I have 170 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: nothing against these young guys. I have nothing against guys 171 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: that just can't play, you know, but you need to 172 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: you need to move on as a as a coach. 173 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: And and and I'm I felt that way in training camp, 174 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: after training camp, even when we traded, I said to myself, y'all, 175 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: and its quick fit right now, everybody's hyped. I look 176 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: at it how it really is Philadelphia struggling. And we 177 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: caught a struggling Philadelphia team. Hey, more power to the Cowboys. 178 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: We took advantage of it. We took a struggling Kansas 179 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: City team. Yes we know what they did a year ago. 180 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: They were both in the Super Bowl. They're not the 181 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: same teams, just like the Cowboys are not the same team. 182 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: You just have to make do it what you got. 183 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: You got to get through this season. I was not 184 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: on the playoff roller coaster, so I don't have to 185 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: be feeling bad today. I never you know, you know 186 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: that I've never been on the playoff roller coaster. So 187 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 2: we kept because season, this is, this thing is long, 188 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: and people want to say, what do you do different 189 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: as a player now that you're in the playoff run? 190 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: And so the question posed the people is, until you 191 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: see an E. 192 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: Go to ESPN standings, until you see an E with 193 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 2: a couple of dashes in front of your name, you're 194 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: mathematically still in it. Somehow somewhere they don't figure it out. 195 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: That you math. 196 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 2: But when you see that E and you out, it's 197 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: called elimination. So until the Cowboys get the E, I 198 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: guess you can continue to have hope. But realistically, I 199 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 2: ask you, two guys, what have your eyes. 200 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: Been telling you inconsistency. This is the same team that 201 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: lost to the Arizona Cardinals that also beat the Eagles, 202 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: that also beat the Chiefs that also lost to the Vikings'. 203 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: It is just a it's a topsy turvy season. H 204 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: there have been so many ups and downs, and it's 205 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: really hard to even just think about, you know, Week 206 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: one when you consider the CD drops and how that 207 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: was a storyline and yes, that kind of reared its 208 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: head back whenever we played against the Eagles again and see, 209 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: and you're expecting a lot out of these players, of course. 210 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the one consistency that you've had 211 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: this season is Dak He's played really great, genuinely, He's 212 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: played his best football this year. It feels like a 213 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: wasted year in some areas because his defense has not 214 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: helped him out. You've had in consistency, in consistencies with 215 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: the line, which is a big thing that we brought 216 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: up on Talking Cowboys like the question was what has 217 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: been the biggest disappoint uh which position group has provided 218 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: you the biggest disappointment this year? I had said the 219 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: offensive line because because the expectations that you have also 220 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: factor into a disappointment, and I expected an offensive line 221 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: that had finally gotten some chemistry in the off season, 222 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 3: and you kind of have the same guys outside of 223 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: Tyler Booker, but at least you had chemistry with these 224 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: guys and they got to be together for a full 225 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: offseason and all these things. And your tackle play has 226 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: just been really, really bad, frankly bad, and a large 227 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: part of that is due in too Tyler Guyton. We 228 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: were talking about Tyler Goyon and how you know if 229 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: he were in these last three games, oh my gosh, 230 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: we would have been in a much better situation. But 231 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: even when you did have Tyler Goyiton in the game, 232 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: it was still inconsistent. For me. That not inexcusable, but 233 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: it's just a huge disappointment. Like I said, that you're 234 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: not getting the same play that you would be expecting 235 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: out of that group. Now you could also point to 236 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: the linebackers being out point, but it's but what expectations 237 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: did you have for them? Because we're talking about the 238 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: only frame of reference that I had was training camp 239 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: and some of the preseason, and it's for me, it's 240 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: impossible to judge linebackers in training camp because they're they're not. 241 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: Making an actual thank you. 242 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: And I said that to Nate. That was my one 243 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: of my first questions to you when we first met, 244 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: like my first camp three years ago. It's like, how 245 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: are you judging linebacker? I don't get how we're doing this. 246 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 3: You can't. You simply can't until they're out there taking 247 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: live reps and the tackling has been inconsistent and they're 248 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: not reading the right place. 249 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 250 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: I think what we were sold though, we had higher 251 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: expectations than what we're getting because. 252 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: We were sold that eba Flus is a linebackers coach. 253 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, he's a he's a broad, experienced veteran. You know, 254 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: Sandborn new his system and Murray had one hundred tackle seasons, 255 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: you know, And I mean yesterday what our two middle 256 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: linebackers each had one on one assist? 257 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: Wow? 258 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: How does that even happen? Your middle linebackers don't get 259 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: a single solo tackle? Just I don't know that to me, 260 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: that the linebackers have been a huge. 261 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: And is it the line? Is it the personnel or 262 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: is it the personnel and the coaching or is the coaching? 263 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: You know, like you kind of have to ask yourself 264 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: that I was asking Nate about this too. It's you 265 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: know what exactly is number fifty nine reading out there, 266 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: Kenneth Murray? What what? What is he reading to put 267 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: him out of position so often? 268 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's that's that's the bottom line. 269 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: That's a million dollar question, right, I don't know. 270 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: And you know he's he's not played good and so 271 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: you know the Poland owner is too late. Fellas, it's 272 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: about now. 273 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: It's the same thing we've been seeing. 274 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have to get through this season. As 275 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: a fan. 276 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: You don't change out there in TV radio, lads, ticket goals, players, merchandise. 277 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: People don't change. Keep their expectations high, you know. But 278 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: it's but within this organization, they're gonna have to make 279 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: some changes, man, and whether it's personnel, players, coaches, they're 280 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: gonna have to make some change. But some of these 281 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: changes that you make going into this year hash to last, 282 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: we haven't had players. 283 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: Consistency, thank you. 284 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: We we our thirty percent. 285 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: Seem like it affects us more than any other team 286 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: that's making a run. Even Philadelphia as bad as they 287 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: are right at this point, they still they say, have 288 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: nine wins, They still have nine wins and they have 289 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: beat some pretty good team. 290 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so. 291 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: That's because if you have players, you still overcome a lot. 292 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: We don't have And I've said it now, Jesse said, 293 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: and I'll continue to say we don't have the players. 294 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: We don't have enough b B plus players. I've said 295 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: that at the beginning. I'm gonna say it to until 296 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: they do do something different. 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Do you 345 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 3: know that, Nate, Yes, sir, got a lot of crypto. 346 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: You know, when I first heard of crypto, I thought 347 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: it was a gang member or something, so. 348 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Crip hey, I left. 349 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: It alone for a long No bitcoin for Nate. 350 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're. 351 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: Trading digital currencies. 352 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: Man, I can't say that, I'm. 353 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: But if you did, you'd be doing it on of 354 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: course blockchain dot com. 355 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: Of course. 356 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: All right, fellas does it back to the real world? Yeah, 357 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: Dak does it. Oh yeah, that k Trus blockchain dot com. Yeah, 358 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: commercial and everything. Yes, sir, Fellas, we're gonna talk about 359 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: the offense now, thank you being We gotta talk about 360 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: the offense. Like I said, it wasn't just the defensive 361 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: effort that lost you the game. It was a losing 362 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: effort on all fronts. And Nick Eatman had a great 363 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 3: article or column on Doscowboys dot com dot com yeah 364 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: about how complimentary football works in the other way too. 365 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: If you're uncomplimentary on all three sides, you're going to 366 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: lose the game. And I don't think any phase really 367 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: helped you. Granted you had a sort of a bounce 368 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: back game from Cavanti Turpin, but special teams. I mean 369 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: Aubrey missed a couple of field goals. 370 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it had missed only two all year and missed 371 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 4: two in the game. 372 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: My question is, do you feel that the offense becomes 373 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: conservative with how good Brandon Aubrey is too conservative? 374 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: The thing is this here, and I hate to repeat 375 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: himself on this one, but I don't depend on kickers 376 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 2: as much as most people as great a kicker as 377 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: much as athlete, yeah, athlete as this dude is. I 378 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: need him only two times. I need him to tie 379 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: a game and I need him to win a game. 380 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: But if I gotta work, if I gotta depend on 381 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: him for constant, constant scoring, it's another element has to 382 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: be in place. 383 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: That means you got to have a great, great defense. 384 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So that's why. 385 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: I don't If we had a great, great defense, I 386 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: would probably be the biggest rvy. 387 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: Frain in the world. You know what I'm saying. Hey, man, 388 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: if all you gotta do get me sixteen points and 389 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: get me twenty points. 390 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But that ain't the case 391 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: our offense and it is not doing it. 392 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: How is that happening? You have CD, you have George Pickens. 393 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: They're both healthy as far as I'm concerned. 394 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: All you gotta do is go to the most hated 395 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: defense in the world that the Cowboys can't run effectively. 396 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: Go to a Cover two and you can stop them. 397 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: You can not stop them, you can slow them down. 398 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: But once again, if your offensive line just to tick better, 399 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: then that would give CD and George Pickings a better 400 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: opportunity that our tight ends can go up the middle. 401 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: The seam routes a little bit more with ease and 402 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: with more consistency. That's that's the problem. It all comes 403 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: down to do you have time, you know, to make 404 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: these throws, because guys sometimes I have to work themselves 405 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: open in the zone. Deal with as man the man 406 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: you get that quick escape or you run an excellent 407 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: route and you right there. 408 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: Now. 409 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: People say we're the same thing with the zone. No, 410 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: not always, you know, especially when you plan behind the chains. 411 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Well it was. 412 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: Two for two for twelve yesterday, seventeen percent. We had 413 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: a better chance of making the playoffs. 414 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: Huh. 415 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: Anyway, it was doing the third downs and that hurt 416 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: them to not win on first down. I mean we 417 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: first intend. I mean we first intend, then we second 418 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: in ten. You we second in eight, we second and seven. 419 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 2: Now that's thirty and eight thirty and thirty nine thirty. 420 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: So they were sitting You saw them sitting right on 421 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: that nine yard line or the eight yard line. You know, hey, 422 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: you were back for enough. If you try to go deep, 423 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: we're gonna contest it. But if you we're gonna make 424 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: you throw in front of us. That's what the Brian 425 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: floor is, the same way with the Kansas City with Spegnola. 426 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: They want to dictate where you throw the ball so they. 427 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: Can come up and make it fourth and whatever. 428 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: But sorry, things that cowboys could have done differently to 429 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 4: combat them, What should they have done? 430 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: What you have to win on first You have to 431 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: win on first down and let second down be your 432 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: gamble down. I call it a gambling down where if 433 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: you if you second in four, you can throw, you 434 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: can run. There's a lot of things you can do 435 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: with second and four, second and three, you know, even 436 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: second in five. It's a lot you can do, but 437 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: it ain't a lot you can do with second and eight. 438 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: Second is second is seven. 439 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: So that gives them the ability to hunt you. Yes, 440 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: at that point, and uh, when you're looking about you know, 441 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: being blitzed. Dak was hit eleven times yesterday, only two sacks, 442 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: but it was the highest percentage of his career of 443 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: being blitzed. Yes, Flores decided, I'm going to attack Dak 444 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: today and I'm gonna basically ask you to throw the slant. Yes, 445 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: that was something that we brought up today in talking cowboys. 446 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: It's like they're they're begging you to do it. Oh yeah, 447 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: they they they out physical. 448 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: They want to dictate to you where to throw the ball. 449 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 2: You know, and they was specific, Like you said, the slant, 450 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: they like, are they. 451 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: Okay throw us to your back out of the backfield? 452 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: You know, because a couple of times they was added 453 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: seven to eight men up on the line and wrap 454 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: before the snap. You will see the two outside linebackers 455 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: go right into the slant zone. 456 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: Or you'll see two safeties just run back into cover too. 457 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: You just see them turn around and turn their back 458 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: and get back where they're supposed to be. 459 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: That is how it is. 460 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: Supposed to be played with discipline, you know, and they 461 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: played it with discipline, so they kept us in a 462 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: bad you know. 463 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: I tell people. 464 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: It's a great thing when you win a game and 465 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: you are four for five on fourth down. It's not 466 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: a great thing when you lose a game, because that 467 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 2: means you had three downs to execute and you were 468 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: so scared that your authtit. This defense weren't gonna hold 469 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: up till you had to push it into the fourth down. 470 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: So one is with winning and the others with losing. 471 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: And it was not a great thing. Our offense was 472 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: not what it was supposed to be. 473 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: Uh. They did not take over the game like we 474 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: thought they were. 475 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: I was on record saying we're in to score four. 476 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it didn't. 477 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: It did not happen. 478 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: It did not happen. 479 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: What something that I thought was really successful in the 480 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: second half after Jamanty Williams came back and they started 481 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: running the ball again, Uh, at least between the twenties. 482 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: I thought he looked great. 483 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: I mean, he's going to be sore today. 484 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and he looked great. This is a guy that 485 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, also scored a touchdown yesterday, and after those 486 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: few runs in the second half, they kind of waned 487 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: off of him. They're like, all right, we're done using 488 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: him in this drive when it's like, no, keep that 489 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: engine going. I mean, he's playing really well and you 490 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: saw those bursts. But it's just uh something. Someone brought 491 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: this up in the chat. I want to give him 492 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: a shout out real quick. Gabe says there's no creativity in 493 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 3: the run scheme as well. I see other teams run counters, sweeps, pitches, 494 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: zone stretch plays. Get these guys on the move, let 495 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: them all. Why are we not seeing that? Why are 496 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: we seeing a sort of one dimensional run game from 497 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys offense. Especially Brian Schottenheimer, who had been very 498 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: critical of on getting away from the run game. 499 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 4: Well, I thought they kind of got away from the 500 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: run game because they had to just because of time. 501 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 4: You know, they were he was having so much success, 502 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: but they were chasing at the end there. 503 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: But it's far. 504 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: I mean, Nate can talk about the blocking and how 505 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 4: that why they're why they're not you knowing more? Like 506 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: you said, more looks in the in the run. 507 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: Game the more when you have new guys in and 508 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: out of out the lineup, how much do you really 509 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: want to change? 510 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: Uh uh? 511 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: I don't Oh wow, how did I put this? I 512 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 2: don't want to say. Guys, the guys are not smart, 513 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: but you don't want to run a play in practice 514 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: four or five new players in practice only one of 515 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: them work. But you want to be you want to 516 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: have creativity. But you got new guys. This tackle may 517 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: can do this, but this tackle can This card may 518 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: can do this, but this scuard can't. But you but 519 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: you've never seen them work together more than four games? 520 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: Have we had four games where we've had at least 521 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: four of ours same offensive lineman. 522 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: No, it's it's been a musical chairs Yes year so far? 523 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: Is that then? One? 524 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 4: Because that came identity had to come in late when 525 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 4: he's the third string tackle out there. Of practices, he's 526 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: not getting it. 527 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: He's not getting many reps at all. 528 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 4: So they had to get away from them. 529 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: But understand this now. 530 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: I mean they're still taking snaps though. I mean he's 531 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: taking just as many past snaps. 532 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: You know. Let me let me tell you something, Fellas. 533 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: I don't think the score was that crazy, that far 534 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: behind to where you can just say like, oh, we're 535 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: going to just forego the run game at that point. 536 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: Let me say this right here, back in my day, 537 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: where offensive line play was something you really worked on, 538 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking about skill set. I'm talking about techniques. These 539 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: guys the majority of what they do is against air. 540 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: Either about practice, yeah, and I'm talking about walk through 541 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: you know, uh in training camp. That's why coach tried 542 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: to pick up the pace because I felt bad for 543 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: number seventy five. 544 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: Uh what his name, Energy Identity Identity. I felt bad. 545 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: I felt bad because that kid they got in there 546 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: and they several times they just spent him. 547 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they took him out. 548 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: He went out, went out and they double moved him, 549 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: and he went to turn back and they caught him 550 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: out on our side. He just spent the top. You 551 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Wow, he's not ready now, don't 552 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: get me right. What I mean was he wasn't ready 553 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: for the speed of what the game brought. He knew 554 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: who the block, he was on it, but he was 555 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: not ready for his speed. 556 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: They knew the first day Pnica was showing up like, oh, 557 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: let's let's do it. Drake. 558 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: I just I tell people, and I've been there where 559 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: you you have not played against top caliber, all out assault. 560 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: And that's what happened to a lot of these live 561 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: reps for him. Yes, and when the live. 562 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 2: When the live reps come, That's why I said, when 563 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: I put in a new offensive rhyme and in the game, 564 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm like. 565 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: Coach, you need to give me a couple of runs. 566 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: You need to give me a couple of runs. 567 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: But you know, at least in the in the modern 568 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: day NFL, Nate and I know you, you're used to 569 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: two a days, and I know you're used to you know, 570 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 3: really tough practice practices that were tougher than games at times. 571 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 3: How do you manage that? How do you affect your 572 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: players enough to where they're getting that same level of 573 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: consistency and reps and and. 574 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: It's just hard. This team doesn't have depth. We we 575 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: after we get past front five defensively, who is it, 576 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: after we get past our front five offensive lineman? 577 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: Who is it after your top two. 578 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, after your top two wide receivers is flooring Noy? 579 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: And then who is it? So our depth has to 580 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: get better? 581 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: Can they do that with a top heavy salary? 582 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: Kip, And that's that that has been That's why you 583 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: trade a Michael Parsons, That's why you do a move 584 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 3: like that. 585 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 4: So he didn't spend money on the Pickens. 586 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's definitely a for debate. You know, like, 587 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: I think you're seeing a lot from Flinoy, But does 588 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: he have the season that he has without George Pickens 589 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 3: being there? Without him being a target for defenses. They 590 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: effectively took him out of the game yesterday. I didn't 591 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: expect that to happen. I thought he was going to 592 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: bounce back after his game against the Lions. 593 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no no no no. That is what. 594 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: Y'all said it on y'all show repeatedly. I told Isaiah, 595 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: you didn't believe what you was saying. He skills set wise, 596 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: they our top three to fourteen. The only thing Minnesota 597 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: Vikings was missing was a quarterback, and if he played 598 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: just average, they had. 599 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: A great chance of beating us. 600 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: I told Isaiah, Now, you said that all week, but 601 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: you still picked the Cowboys to win because you didn't 602 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: believe what you was saying. Well, guess what McCarthy did yesterday. 603 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: He went out there and was average and they beat us. 604 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 3: He was almost below average and they still beat it. Yeah, 605 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: but you missed a lot of throws. 606 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: But if we had the depth because the great, the 607 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: great wide receiver did not beat us. No number one, 608 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: number one beat us. Yeah, that's who beat us. 609 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he did. 610 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. 611 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: So Jefferson had eight targets, only two receptions for twenty 612 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: two yards. 613 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: And dropped the touchdown And can't blame that on that kid. 614 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: He put it in his hands. 615 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: Nope, and then he dropped a huge gain or two. 616 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 617 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: So what I'm trying to tell people is this right here, 618 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: this team is building. I'm hoping that coach Schottenheimer has 619 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: another year to put things in place. I hope that 620 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: they they go out in the draft and uh forget 621 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: need for the next two years. We don't need the word. 622 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: The word needs should not come. 623 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: Up with draft. Forget what you need. Get players. 624 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: Get players to where your current starters can't should be 625 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 3: the backup. 626 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, get players. Man that you know, we'll 627 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: have this draft show. 628 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: They do a great job. 629 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 3: They are excellent. 630 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm serious. 631 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: They break down players and they'll tell you positions and 632 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: d D and they'll say that they will tell you 633 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: that they're not trying to persuade you to go a 634 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: certain place, but they'll keep telling you who they like. 635 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's start throwing pins and everything goes off. 636 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: Me. 637 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 2: I just don't want after the drafts to hear somebody 638 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: walk up to and say, well, we needed this player 639 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: and we got this play. Hold on, you mean tell 640 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: me it was a guy two times better at another 641 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: position and we let him go called we needed this 642 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: maybe player. Quit draft and the maybees and grated draft 643 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: the players. 644 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: What's funny about that, though, is we did the pod 645 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 3: picks last year for our first round pick. Every single 646 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: one of them was either wide receiver or running back, 647 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: just depending on who would be available, right, But we 648 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 3: were all picking that sort of vibe Nate was one 649 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: of I think one, and Chris Bean also chose Tyler Booker. 650 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, both picked him. 651 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: I say, what do we need? Chris, who is the 652 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: most the best? He said, Chris that you you can 653 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: not go wrong getting the best player. 654 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: And he worked out because you know what we said. 655 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 2: We didn't need we don't need no corners. We got 656 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 2: two corners. Oh we don't need no corners, Fellas. 657 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: Is that not a major need now? 658 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, I need a safety though, I need 659 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 3: I need I need a coverage which you currently have 660 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: four downhill safeties. You need a coverage safety, Kurt, who 661 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: you who you picking? But what position? Sorry? 662 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: Oh that they need to help with? Well, I mean 663 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 4: the entire secondary linebacker, you know, like I mean, yeah, 664 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 4: there's a lot of spots. 665 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 2: The thing that the thing that that hurts is when 666 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: I see the obvious. You know, Brandon Aubrey is a 667 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: hell of a weapon. People say that you hate kickers, 668 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: d da da, No, I have different uses for kick 669 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: and then most people he I don't need him to 670 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: be my primary scorer, right. What I need him to 671 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: do is to help me win games, either tie in 672 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: them a kicking for the win. If he Okay, we 673 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 2: at the forty, get Brandon. Okay, we at the forty, 674 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: get Brandon. The other team is scoring touchdowns, so we 675 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna put Brandon on on McCarthy. Well, two 676 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: weeks ago he would have been better than macarthy because 677 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: Macarthy couldn't even score a touchdown. 678 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: But this week here he wasn't better than McCarthy. You 679 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. 680 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: I got you all right, boys, we need to take 681 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: our second break when we come back. I need to 682 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: ask you about shot these comments after the game, just 683 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: to kind of get your thoughts on him when we 684 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 3: come back on hanging with the boys. 685 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 7: Hey, cowboy fans, Keith Davis here forming Cowboys safety. 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It's 720 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: a little bit of a crossover episode today. 721 00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: Boys. 722 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 3: I kind of wanted to bring up Shoty his comments 723 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 3: in his presser after the game. He took accountability for it. 724 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: He said, Uh, it's always got to start with me 725 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 3: and the things that I messed up, and I didn't 726 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 3: do very well. Brian Flores was better than me today. 727 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 3: I won't sleep very good tonight, but I promise you 728 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 3: I'll wake up tomorrow, work my ass off, and I'm 729 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 3: gonna figure it out. And he also had mentioned that 730 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: frustrated that that they were that poor on third down, 731 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 3: which is true. The play calling was questionable. I'd say 732 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 3: on third down, we're better than that. I am better 733 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 3: than that. Let's hope, so do you. 734 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: Damn Kurt. Kurt takes subtle shots like. 735 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: That's a shot. That's shody, I see it. What do 736 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 3: you make of that? He's he's trying to take accountability. 737 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: I don't. 738 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: I think he's being nice. I don't think it was 739 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 3: all unshody Grant, thank god. I didn't love some of 740 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: the play calls. 741 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 2: DA thank god was shody. But stop, I don't want 742 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: to hear it no more. 743 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: Brother. 744 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: When they hit them, both of them a gaps in 745 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: the linebacker hit both of them a gaps sitting on 746 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: the side of the center. 747 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: You mean to. 748 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 2: Tell me you ain't went over that, not only with 749 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: Brian Floyd is you went over with coach Spagnola. With 750 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. You had a repeat. You should 751 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: have been better. Think about it now you face the 752 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 2: same thing with the Kansas City You should have been 753 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: better as a head coach, offensive coordinator, your position coaches 754 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 2: should have been better, and definitely your players should have 755 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 2: been on top of that. 756 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: That should have been routine by time this game came. 757 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 2: So when he said that right there, I said to myself, 758 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: I'm glad he really don't have a real bullet in 759 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 2: his mouth for him to bite down on, because he'll 760 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: be gone right today. 761 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that may be so mad Man. No, no, no, no, no, no, Hey, 762 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: do your part. Coach. You know I've been backing you 763 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: all year, but. 764 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: When are you gonna hold your and you can't do 765 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,959 Speaker 2: a public I understand this, This is the talking head. 766 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: You got to hold this. 767 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: Dudes responsible, You got the whole, each player responsible because 768 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 2: it nowhere in the world we should have these two 769 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: quality wide receivers. 770 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: And they not light up this They should have lit 771 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: up in Minnesota. 772 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 3: Man, absolutely that. 773 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: It's certain things I'm not going to accept. Now. 774 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: I can accept trying to rebuild a defense. I can 775 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 2: accept whatever you want to do to the defense, but 776 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna accept not having two of these outstanding 777 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 2: wide receivers, a pretty good tight end group and a 778 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: decent running back not being successful that you know. 779 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: And I ain't saying being perfect. Way they got to 780 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 1: be pregnant. 781 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 2: No, they don't have to be perfect, but the tools 782 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: are there, yes there? 783 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kurt, how did you feel about Shotty's comments? 784 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, he didn't get out coached, I think, 785 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 4: and yeah, I do think he's better than what he's 786 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 4: shown m but he's still learning in some ways. 787 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: He got a coach last game yeah, he got a coached. 788 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: I ask game he tried, true, but you. 789 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 3: Is he trying to prove his point on the wrong things. 790 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 3: This is kind of one of the last thing I 791 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 3: want to talk about. We only have a couple of 792 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 3: minutes left. Trayvon Diggs wasn't activated this last week, and 793 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: it might be another one of the things where coaches, 794 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 3: you know, he's trying to instill something different in this team. 795 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 3: It may be coach, it may be higher up. We 796 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 3: don't know. There's a lot of drama there. 797 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, And you said said again it may 798 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: be maybe higher. 799 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: Up it is. 800 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like personal. It's gotten personal. 801 00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 1: It's gotten personal. 802 00:42:59,800 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 4: Bro. 803 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 2: You can't tell me that Diggs is not better than 804 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 2: any corner we got out here, even Bland physically. When 805 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 2: he is healthy. I ain't even talking about him right 806 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: in the head. I'm talking about when he is healthy, 807 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: he is the number one corner. He is a number 808 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 2: one corner. So this ain't just coaching. This coach shot 809 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 2: is saying, boy, I ain't not gonna be this much politics. 810 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: Get ahead, coaching, boys, Hey, I gotta do this for 811 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 2: my players. He cannot aulinate himself from this kid because 812 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 2: he may need this kid to come by the end 813 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: of the season to come back. And then the thing is, 814 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 2: what if this baby boy come back and do what 815 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: everybody wants him to do and be that player that 816 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: we know Now all. 817 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: Of a sudden, you know how we are? Oh no, man, 818 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: but oh lord, we lost the season cause but you 819 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: just see Digs in these last two games. Oh he 820 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: got three other sception five back. You know how we go? 821 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 4: We yeah, we're eliminated on Saturday. I don't know if 822 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 4: we see Diggs again because the young guys, you. 823 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: Think of e coming before us with a couple of dashes. 824 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 3: Your chances right now are one percent to make the playoffs. 825 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 2: We have been doing better on third Now. Wow, I 826 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 2: just believe it's here, fellas. And I can't tell you 827 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 2: guys how to think. I mean, y'all are fans of 828 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, but right now I think the Cowboys are 829 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: rat way. I thought they would be a team that's 830 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 2: trying to get better, building, trying to put things in place, 831 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 2: trying to Now. 832 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: I will be able to be proudly to say after 833 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: this draft, going into. 834 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 2: OTAs, if I see a safety, cover safety, if I 835 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 2: see a cover linebacker, I'll be like, I'll be over 836 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 2: the moon because I do expect better next year. 837 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I do expect better next year. 838 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: And whoever the coach is, whether it's coach eba flu, 839 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 2: whether it's a new guy, they need to be here. 840 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: For the draft and the preparation of the draft. 841 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 3: You have to make that decision. 842 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: Cool. 843 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we cannot say, okay, we're done drafted our players. 844 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: Now we bringing this guy and he's not exactly that 845 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: type of coach. 846 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 3: Hurt any final words before the episode concludes. 847 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 4: No, it's another such a crazy season and just another 848 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 4: kick in the gut there yesterday? 849 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 2: So is that that something from Foreigner? You're just another 850 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 2: kicking another brick in the wall? 851 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: Who sang that? Yeah, another brick in the wall. 852 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 2: Man, he's a movie he's a movie buff too now 853 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,959 Speaker 2: and I'll put on a Batman shirt. 854 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: But he never shows up today. I went. 855 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 3: I saw it on Friday. Okay, all right, fellas, thank 856 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 3: you so much for having me on. I appreciate it. Guys, 857 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 3: it's been fun. It's a good chat with you. Tomorrow 858 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 3: Jesse and oh tomorrow, Yeah, we're helping. But Wednesday you 859 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 3: will have the full hanging with the boys. Crew for 860 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 3: Chris Beam, Kurt Nate, I'm Josh. We'll see you next time. 861 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 3: We are we Are. 862 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 6: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 863 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club