WEBVTT - Ep. 389: Calling Ducks With Koe Wetzel 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:13.320 This is the me Eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.120 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear. Listening to Hunt 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:21.560 Me to Eat podcast, you can't predict anything presented by first, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:26.599 like creating proven versatile hunting apparel from Marino bass layers 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.840 to technical outerwear for every hunt. First like go farther, 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:47.440 stay longer, try looking for some love. Mm hmm m 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:59.160 listening now we wait, what's that said? Now we ate? 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:25.640 Mh I'm gonna I'm gonna ship two in front. You're 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:40.000 looking at down? No, no, no, okay, colder n great body. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.399 You know I want to state the Texas State dot 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.040 Com competition. When I was fucking fourteen years old, you 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:53.480 didn't often see you did when drop You need no 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.520 deep me than that I do. When I come to 0:01:55.680 --> 0:02:06.080 the day of colling, come walker in the night to 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:19.440 do it like the funk are they doing front the turner? 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:32.000 They're traveling that creek? Take them, take it to take 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:49.600 What the fuck are you kidding me? Bro? This motherfucker 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.440 has his face on the goddamn box of the fucking 0:02:52.440 --> 0:03:00.440 shelves and shooting. I'll keep shooting these twenty gay when 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.200 you got your bismus fucking face a little will I'm 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:18.040 trying to hand you that gum. You kid me every change, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.440 we're gonna change the program. We're just gonna say, shoot everybody. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.240 We're not gonna do calls. He's because you guys are 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.720 sucking stopped you bay, We're gonna going I think, honestly, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.480 I think if he's got damn the mill of shells 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:37.360 were shooting made either ships. Are you fucking kidding me? Dude? 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.960 I I hand kiss every one of them bullets. Man, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:45.200 I fucking bet you did every black but we had 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.280 to live it back at the housing. I'd already had 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.800 a fraud out would have give I give him a 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.600 little kissing from that box. Oh my goodness, you know 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.320 I shot one of them and look what happened. If 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:12.800 this is an ad, fucking don't shoot ship check check check. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.160 Here you go. All right, let's go around. Let's do 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.960 some quick introductions. I'll do I'll do an introduction Join 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:24.839 Today by the by musician k Wetzel. Hey, tell um 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:30.359 a little about yourself. Man, Uh yeah, I'll play music. Um, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.600 you know who else plays music? Chester next to you? 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:40.080 A dabbled man, not even close to the scale of 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.560 what you guys, I want to I want to lay 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.560 out a scenario for you know, we'll get on with 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.760 our introductions. Um, I want you to think, Oh, either 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.200 muster up a piece of advice. Chester learned how to 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.159 play guitar a couple of years ago because he wanted 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.960 to be able to serenade his wife at their wedding. Okay, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.839 one thing to let do another. And we did a 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.000 live show and Chester out up and warmed up the 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:07.479 crowd with some singing mediocre. Then me, I'm just laying 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:12.599 out the facts, dude. Then there's a band, there's a 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.719 there's a musician we've had on um from the band 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.880 Trampled by Turtles, and they have invited Chester down to 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:26.520 Atlanta to open on what's the date, December one, So 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.400 keep getting six days before the anniversary of Pearl Harbor 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:35.000 at the Buckhead Theater. So he's gonna go down his 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.640 second ever, like right, and he's gonna go down and 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.159 open and then he's do a set for how many people? 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.040 How big is that place? It's not huge, but big 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.920 enough for me. I think people like, we almost played Bookhead. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.280 We're supposed to, Yeah, we were supposed to. Then COVID 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.480 hit and kind of funk everything up. So what's your advice? 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.479 Give Chester a great piece of advice. Stop playing music. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.200 You know, it's it's a lot of fun. Man, it's 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.760 just the ground of it is. It's really hard unless 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:13.080 you're like super super super passionate about it. Just stay married. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.080 And you know, well, I about some kids. I like, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.800 he just did that. He's not even supposed to be 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:27.800 here yet, and he's like old yeah Benjamin Button. Oh man, 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:32.320 I just like playing music. I do not see myself 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.960 making a career out of it. So, you know, just 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.839 once you get a once in a lifetime opportunity to 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.960 open up for somebody. Tramplin was trampline Turtles trampled by turtles, 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:48.560 trampled My dad calls him stampeding turtles. Uh so there's 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:55.640 your advice. Just or stop just stop, give up. Also 0:06:55.720 --> 0:07:01.400 joined today by Max barta good morning, Um I can't remember. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.719 Not related to tread barter, not even spelled the same way, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.200 No spelled the same way, but not related to tread barter. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:15.800 Phil Phil got a little testy this morning. Well here's 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.280 a here's a piece of peek behind the curtain. My 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.320 I mixed audio for a living and they put me 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.600 by the front door, and everyone walks in and catches up, 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.880 talks about their weekend, what they're having for dinner that night. Uh. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:33.400 And I can't hear a goddamn thing, Karen, Uh. JP, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:40.920 tell everybout what you do? JP? Is this my um? So? 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:46.120 I do UM video and stuff for co UM. I'm 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.520 kind of a creative director sometimes. I've done a few 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.880 music videos tour with the guy and all the We're 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:57.960 just a big family. And are you from a music background? Um, well, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.640 a little bit. My dad's a song writer, and so 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.560 I kind of grew up around it, um and so 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.640 I guess I just naturally kind of came. I don't 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.200 know how I got into it, but I just did. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.840 It just kind of worked out that way. Is that 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.440 row probably one of the most famous wedding songs that 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.960 would think for like your father, father and father and 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:32.440 daughter dances like you look wonderful tonight first? That's cool? Yeah, yeah, 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.200 I had to. Anytime someone figures it out, will just 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.920 bring it up in rooms quiet. I'll bust that one 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.880 out real quick. Yeah, has that about that song? And 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.160 it's like someone will either be like, oh I love 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:49.160 that song and they'll be like, that's cool, but yeah, 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.600 Kylie Archer is your first time on the show, Carl, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:53.920 I think second, but the first one was just a 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.640 I think, just a regular with all of us, just 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.440 our staff, So first time with guests. Kylie's just a 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.320 man off the street because she's a cold wettele fan. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.480 So we thought we would bring down someone who's been 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.320 at the concerts. I appreciate you've got any critiques for 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.000 how he could do a better concert. No, no, like 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:17.240 everything about wasn't like the restrooms and it was easy 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.960 walk out of this room. No. We were in San Antonio. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:26.640 We were at the Cowboy Hall. Cowboys. Yes, um uh 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.720 there was a Santa getting a tattoo. I just like 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.560 that remember so vaguely that was that was read South Hall. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.079 Me and him. We did a like two weeks acoustic 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.160 tour and yeah, we we have a guy that travels 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.320 around and tattoos and stuff. And we were sitting like, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.760 I think it'd be awesome when Santa Claus is getting 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.480 his asked at it on stage, you know how well 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:53.240 we're up here singing and uh, it was good. It 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:59.720 was fun. Mrs Claus probably wouldn't have whatever. Uh, andre 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:06.079 know your last name? R O. C H A sir? Yeah, No, No, 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.319 what's up with We'll tell everybody what you do it, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.880 then explain why you're you're hoodie. All right, We'll start 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:15.640 with what I do. I'm coach, tour manager. I've been 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.320 with him for five six years or so. I was 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.439 his drummer at one point for three or four years 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.000 and then made the transition into tour manager. And you 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.800 guys knew each other back in high school. Yeah, it 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.280 was hundred ducks in high school. Yeah, and he bought 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:35.839 what kind of amil? Would you guys buy twelve nines 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:41.920 at Walmart? Honestly? Yeah. But we've been we've been buddies 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.600 for a long time and we've been working together even longer. So, 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.560 like JP said, just one big family. We travel around 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.760 the world together and have a lot of fun doing it, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.120 and you just got to collect the money. I do. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.440 I do at the end of the night, sometimes before 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.240 the even show starts. Hopefully we can have a little 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.640 more fun. But yeah, as part of the job, one 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.280 of them many things for sure. And you got a 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:06.880 tupac hoodie I do. Now, is it definitively established who 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.959 who shot him? No? They say it was sugar Night, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.920 but nobody there's I've watched a million documentaries and still 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.480 I'm I'm obsessed with like the that Biggie Tupac thing 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.079 that happened. And I mean I've I've watched the movies, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.720 the documentaries, to listen to the albums all the way through, 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.040 and they say it was the L A. P. D. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.320 I mean, I don't know. So there's still a question. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.680 Mark lingers over. Yeah, I still think about it sometimes 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:35.560 he goes to bed thinking about it everything. Uh, did 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.400 you guys have fun duck hunting yesterday? We had a blast. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.800 That was a lot of fun out. I gotta telling you, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.760 like the way just how everything was laid out, you know, 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.520 the snow, you know, not being able to see him 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.160 and so they got right in our face. You know 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.320 it was and my magnificent duck coom skills run a 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.640 lot of men. You know you're shooting good good State 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:04.160 Champion duck caller, Texas Champion. H uh oh hany tight knot. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.600 We gotta make a couple of announcements. Just enjoy your coffee. 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.480 How don't you know where you're having this? Our trivia 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.000 shirts available now. I mean, I guess I knew about that. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.120 I kind of forgot about it. The hell's the hold up? 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.400 So the trivia shirt where it's a squirrel riding uh 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.000 soccer with a flag that says game on Suckers. You 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.240 get it. It's a squirrel riding a soucker. It's so 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:33.280 good right there in the corner the mediator trivia shirt 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.640 Game on Suckers? Is it like available available? Is a 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.320 limited number? It's available today? I mean there is like 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:44.600 a limited number, but it's not like really really really limited, 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.199 but it's really limited. Oh hey, check this out the 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.040 guy cold. Just so you understand guys right in, people 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.439 right in and now and then it's something that's interesting, 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.079 so we share it. You can picture how this goes. Okay, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:02.720 this guy had a guy roll in. He had something 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.120 called a thoracic syndrome. This plays into a lot of things. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:11.160 It plays into dogs, plays into bones, cooking, It hits 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.520 a lot of things that are of interest to the show. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.520 He has something called thorastic syndrome. Pretty common deal. The 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:24.040 fixes the going and remove the person's top rib because 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.080 in many cases the two top ribs are impinging on 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:32.560 the blood vessels and nerve endings in that area. The 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.080 surgeon went a little sideways. The surgeon actually cut his 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.160 frenetic nerve, so he wanted to bud some heavy duty 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.360 pain killers for a while. But he had asked for 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:45.120 his rib back. Okay, I already know where this is. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.840 You read the headline my dog ate my rib and 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.120 you're kind of like not buying it. But here him 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.560 out after reading I believe that this dog ate his rib. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.760 He wants to rib back. He doesn't anticipate because he 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.480 he says he's gonna make some jewelry or some sh 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.360 it out of it, just to be like, check that out. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.720 It's my rib part of me. Oh for sure. We 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.400 had a guy sitting in the chair I'm sitting in 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.360 right now that had his own amputated arm euro mounted. 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.440 He can walk around his own arm. I mean everybody does. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.440 But what I should say, what I should say is 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.640 he could walk around without his arm or bring it 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.640 with him. So he's got this rib and it comes 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.360 back to him in a presumably alcohol. It comes back 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.640 to him in a fluid and he says he was 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.120 expecting it all to be cleaned up, but it's not clean. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.880 Still got a lot of meat, on it. No. Later, 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.840 he wants to dry it out so he can scrape 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:55.040 it up and puts it in his oven. Okay, this 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.760 isn't some stupid joke. I don't know. We don't traffic 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.760 in that kind of stuff. Um lives with his mom 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:08.560 and dad. I forgot to mention that he puts in 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.320 the oven to dry it out so he can scrape 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.840 it clean. And he says when his parents came home, 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.040 they thought it smelled good in the house and asked 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:22.240 what was cooking. He showed them the rib. They weren't 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.600 that happy, but he said after a little scraping, it 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:30.080 came out bright white. At one point, as he's cleaning it, 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:35.400 he leaves it on the counter and his dog got it. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:42.520 It's gone. Now goodness. How old was this guy Nashville, Tennessee. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:47.080 Well that also kind of brings it home. You gotta 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.680 get him out to the show. Yeah, I know, but 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.600 you'd want to have him bring his rib, but he 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:59.160 can't co Would you do something like that? Uh No, probably, honestly, 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.360 you know, I goes beards depending on how drunk I was, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.720 probably so yeah, exactly the type of thing that you 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.480 would do. Another guy rolled in with the ethics question. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.560 This is a good one. I love at Washington State. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.960 There's two Washington things coming up here. Uh, there's a 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.280 Washington State where I'm lucky enough to have many acres 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.800 of state BLM and d n R property very close 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:27.280 to my home. Recently, I was scouting a piece of 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.280 public land and came across multiple illegal bait sites for 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:37.240 blacktailed deer. This gentleman is very liberal with upper case letters. 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.440 So super liberal means no, I mean he uses upper 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.160 case letters a lot where they don't belong. There's a 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.360 thing and I want to do a seminar at it 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.720 at this company. There's a thing where people think that 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.680 if you're writing like black bear, you upper case black bear, 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.920 you'd only upper case English sparrow. The e would be 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.480 upper case because which is a proper noun. But you'll 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.320 see where people like bighorn sheep and they capitalize it 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:10.920 just kills me, you know, uppercase blacktail deer. Uh, multiple 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.480 legal bait sites for blacktail deer. We have both a 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.040 gallon limit and proximity limit of base stations in my state. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.120 They got salt licks and feeders. Okay, and he makes 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:25.159 a note of it. Here's this question, knowing that someone 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.040 else is illegally baiting the area, does that make it 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:34.679 unethical for him to hunt that area? Ethical? Unethical? I 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.320 would say no, I think if he I think if 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.920 he were hunting the actual bait station, that's a no 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.040 no get away from there. And I mean, you didn't 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:53.920 set those up, you have, yeah, that I'm just we've 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.240 heard of people getting busted for for not realizing that 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.400 they're hunting where someone's been baiting water. They just think 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.159 it's like a great spot and ducks are pouring in 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.520 and then it's baited and no one, No one cares 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.520 to hear you talk about whether or not you did it, 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.280 knew about it, whatever, Like you are doing it. You're 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.440 hunting over bait and that's it. So if he's talking 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.560 about ethics, let's say you have a spot you hunt 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.359 and that's where you hunt, and you go there before 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.240 work and some guy comes and makes an I legal 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.399 bait pile. So he's supposed like not hunt now, of 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:28.879 course not. But a game warden might not want to 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.480 hear a whole lot about who did what, you didn't 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.680 do it, but you're just sitting there shooting, dear. I 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.840 would I would just call the authorities and let him know. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.800 Be like, I don't want to stop hunting, so I'm 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.560 hunting little ways away from these but heads up bait 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.520 piles out. Yeah, yeah, that's probably the right thing to do. 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:52.160 There was this on public. I met public and he's 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.000 even saying, is it wrong for me to hunt someone 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.920 else's bait site. I feel like he's already hunting the 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:03.399 bait stick came from the stand. That sounds like a 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:09.800 master plan. I think he's confusing ethical with uh, legally 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:16.840 prudent ethics and legal prudent ethical Situationally, I would say, yeah, 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.040 you can't like be someone else doing something illegal. Shouldn't 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.800 make it that you can't go about your business. But 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.719 at the same time, no one's gonna care about your 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.159 version of the story when you get caught sitting over 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.560 in a legal bait station. That was easy. Now here's 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.800 another one that guys wanted. Okay, a guy wrote in 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.199 kind of bent out of shape by how he was 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:38.159 treated by some game wardens. He was driving home. He's 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.120 in Washington from an unsuccessful hunting trip with his wife 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.399 and kids. It was after dark. We drove up on 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.920 a good sized buck standing perfectly still a few feet 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.760 off the road. I stopped so we can look at it. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:54.200 It looks very real, and he did that like trump, 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.440 where all the letters are up the case. Very real, 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.399 but it's standing soul still. My wife and I debate 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.680 whether it's a decoy. I get out of my truck 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.120 and throw a small rock toward it, trying to get 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.840 it to move. As I do, it turns its head. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:15.280 I'm convinced it's real. Suddenly I'm blinded by a spotlight 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.080 from behind me. I hear a voice yellow, keep it moving. 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:24.600 I add that inflection, but there's an exclamation point. I 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.760 was trying to bring it home. Keep it moving. I 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.560 look around, confused at first, and suddenly realized it's a 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:32.800 robotic deer, and there's a game ward and controlling it, 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.240 trying to catch people shooting after dark. I related this 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:36.960 to my wife, and after a few more seconds, I 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.040 hear again, more angrily, keep it moving, Get out of here. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.480 I get in my truck and keep driving. Around a 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.600 corner about a hundred yards away, I see a second 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.600 fishing game rig. I stopped and rolled down my window. 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.080 The agent confirms that it is a decoy, and he 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.400 shows me the controller he uses it to make it move. 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.000 I guess you have two questions. Do you have any 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:03.240 insight into the legality of this practice? Lots of It's 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.520 very common practice, kran If you go back into there's 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:11.639 a deep cut, get that reference deep cut. There's a 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:16.080 deep cut where of this of this show where we 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:22.720 had on head Warden and Idaho named Eric Crawford. You 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.919 want to do a quick scan here Eric Crawford, and 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:31.439 he laid out many adventurers using robo deer in robot 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.040 turkeys and lays out all the legality and all the 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:39.440 entrapment stuff. Oh is that episode fifty two real deep cut? Yeah? Wow? 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.520 What was it called? That's like way back when we 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.480 didn't really have good titles for the shows. Sorry, it 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.520 just says Uppard, Bitter Root, Comma Montana. So it's just 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:55.960 like a place name. Yeah, it's like you Yanni and 0:21:55.960 --> 0:22:04.040 Remy six we get into the whole robot dude. No, 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.240 it's been litigated so much. It's definitely not entrapment because 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:11.800 it is a very common practice. And uh, he explains 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:15.199 why it's not entrapment. Isn't that kind of like like 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:20.679 with undercover cops, Like if you're just masquerading as a 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:24.400 drug dealer seller. It's like somebody could be in your 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:28.560 place who wasn't actually undercover. So it's like hopefully driving 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.639 down the road when it's pitch asked dark, you know that, 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.760 shooting lights over so you know what they you know 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.360 what he you know what? As I recollect, Um, it's 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.320 one of my first memories, like you have your first 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:44.359 memories around six. Yeah, one of my core memories is 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:49.000 that game Warden on that episode long ago explaining that 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:54.639 the entrapment question they don't use booner sized deer. Oh okay, 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:59.880 like you can't put on the side of the road 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:06.399 because the judge will be like, well yeah, but I'm 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.320 never gonna explaining that. It's got to be like you 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.240 definitely would want it, but it's not so crazy that 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.680 it would bring about Yeah, it's been heavily litigated. It's 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.639 not so insane that a normal person wouldn't be able 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.040 to resist the urge to shoot it in the dark. 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.720 You know. Yeah, he lays all that out, so I 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:30.280 suggest this listener, um, go look on that, and then 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.199 he wants me to opine on the behavior of the 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:36.119 game ward Maybe I'm overacting, overreacting but it soured the 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.280 experience quite a bit. If I'm on public land, I 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.280 should be able to stop and look at animals whenever 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.840 and wherever I want. And I don't like the idea 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.679 of the woods being filled with robotic deer. Filled with 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:51.760 robotic deer. There's one there. There's one on the side 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:55.480 of the road for like a couple of hours. So 0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.639 I don't think it's legs moved, just his head probably. 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.320 I don't know that the woods are filled. But um, 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:07.200 the law enforcement yelling at me, um, you know, late 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.040 at night, just felt him a little off. I agree. 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:11.879 Why do you got to be like I think it 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:15.000 seems to be like polite as ship, Like here's a guy. 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.080 He's like, oh, there's deer. He's not shooting at it. 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.600 You think you'd be like, oh, hey, partner. Um, I 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.480 know it's a confusing as hell, but that's a robotic deer. 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.200 We're trying to catch poachers. And if you don't mind, yeah, 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.359 Like it's like, I don't know why I get testy 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.840 with like that one was he was he was there 0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.399 to get somebody, for sure. I just don't see why 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.880 you get tested. I like how he got out and 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:43.840 like picked up a couple of just gonna make sure, okay, 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:45.960 I don't. I have one friend that stopped to look 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.080 at a robot deer one time and they're looking out 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.120 the window and all of a sudden scared the ship 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.840 out him because someone's tapping on the other window, and 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:56.159 they just asked him to move on. But then he 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.960 get testy yelling at a bowl order. He's probably the 0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.800 come by. It's probably just like I gotta catch someone soon. Yeah, 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:06.920 And he might have had it out for some defarious 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:08.680 folks that he knew we were gonna be rolling down 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.359 that road any minute. Now, someone out too. But still 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.240 you could just be real, just like use your use 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:20.200 your use your bedroom voice. Yeah, anybody you want to 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:32.639 creep the guy out there? All right, So you guys 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.879 yesterday this for this question for co and Dree, I 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.480 want to get back when you guys are youngsters. You 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.280 guys grew up in a only caught a portion of this. 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:46.800 You guys grew up in a um chicken raising area, 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.720 Chicken Capital of the World, Pittsburgh, Texas at one point, 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.520 I don't know the end up setting out. Yeah they 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.159 got yeah, I got bought it about Tyson back whenever. 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.360 Probably we were in middle school or high school. But yeah, 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:08.639 Pilgrim's chicken, uh bow Pilgrim. He's from Pittsburgh. Um, A 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.639 lot of the a lot of the chicken houses. I 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.680 mean pretty much all of our friends owned chicken houses, 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.200 you know, so so they produced chicken for this chicken 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.920 producing outfit. Yeah, and just you know, distributed all over 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.760 the world and ship but chicken. Yeah yeah. Yeah. You 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.199 you come into Pittsburgh and you smell chicken ship, you know, 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.480 like like, oh I love it. You know. It's it's 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.320 like you live there your life. You're like, oh, it's 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.439 just another day. Everybody else comes in and like what 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.199 the funk is going on in this? I get that 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:43.359 with the dairy farms and the same thing. Yeah, but 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.080 that gets like a well, all that too much of 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.600 that ship allays that ammonious smell, man, you know what 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.920 I mean? Yeah, I kind of like it. Though. You 0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:54.120 go back and you're like, I'm home, and you are 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.280