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Speaker 1: This is the me Eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,

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Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear. Listening to Hunt

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Speaker 1: Me to Eat podcast, you can't predict anything presented by first,

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Speaker 1: like creating proven versatile hunting apparel from Marino bass layers

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Speaker 1: to technical outerwear for every hunt. First like go farther,

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Speaker 1: stay longer, try looking for some love. Mm hmm m

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Speaker 1: listening now we wait, what's that said? Now we ate?

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Speaker 1: Mh I'm gonna I'm gonna ship two in front. You're

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Speaker 1: looking at down? No, no, no, okay, colder n great body.

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Speaker 1: You know I want to state the Texas State dot

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Speaker 1: Com competition. When I was fucking fourteen years old, you

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Speaker 1: didn't often see you did when drop You need no

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Speaker 1: They're traveling that creek? Take them, take it to take

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Speaker 1: What the fuck are you kidding me? Bro? This motherfucker

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Speaker 1: has his face on the goddamn box of the fucking

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Speaker 1: trying to hand you that gum. You kid me every change,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna change the program. We're just gonna say, shoot everybody.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna do calls. He's because you guys are

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Speaker 1: sucking stopped you bay, We're gonna going I think, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think if he's got damn the mill of shells

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Speaker 1: were shooting made either ships. Are you fucking kidding me? Dude?

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Speaker 1: I I hand kiss every one of them bullets. Man,

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Speaker 1: Here you go. All right, let's go around. Let's do

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Speaker 1: some quick introductions. I'll do I'll do an introduction Join

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Speaker 1: Today by the by musician k Wetzel. Hey, tell um

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Speaker 1: a little about yourself. Man, Uh yeah, I'll play music. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know who else plays music? Chester next to you?

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Speaker 1: A dabbled man, not even close to the scale of

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Speaker 1: what you guys, I want to I want to lay

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Speaker 1: our introductions. Um, I want you to think, Oh, either

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Speaker 1: muster up a piece of advice. Chester learned how to

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Speaker 1: play guitar a couple of years ago because he wanted

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Speaker 1: to be able to serenade his wife at their wedding. Okay,

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Speaker 1: one thing to let do another. And we did a

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Speaker 1: Trampled by Turtles, and they have invited Chester down to

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Speaker 1: Atlanta to open on what's the date, December one, So

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Speaker 1: at the Buckhead Theater. So he's gonna go down his

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Speaker 1: open and then he's do a set for how many people?

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Speaker 1: How big is that place? It's not huge, but big

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Speaker 1: enough for me. I think people like, we almost played Bookhead.

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Speaker 1: We're supposed to, Yeah, we were supposed to. Then COVID

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Speaker 1: Give Chester a great piece of advice. Stop playing music.

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Speaker 1: trampled My dad calls him stampeding turtles. Uh so there's

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Speaker 1: joined today by Max barta good morning, Um I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: then explain why you're you're hoodie. All right, We'll start

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Speaker 1: bags here from here to there. Whatever. But it was

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00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: just normal. I mean, we had a lot of chicken

424
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: growing up. That's what held me. The next question, even

425
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: though you're living around that and smelling that you're still

426
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: eating those and like most people will be like, oh,

427
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 1: you know, I could never do it after seeing all that.

428
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: But oh you know, I see a lot of worse.

429
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: I guess eat a lot worse. Uh, how do you

430
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: guys cook ducks? We just breast them out. I cut

431
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: them in a little nuggets now from up him. How

432
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: Uh just batter them and throw them in a little

433
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of old man. Just make

434
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: a fried wild like wild duck fried duck strip. It's

435
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: like a chicken fried duck. I'll I'll put them on

436
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: the grill before and the him like put them like tacos. Yeah,

437
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: I'd like to have them like you're talking about, Like

438
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: I never saw that, Like I've never I've never had

439
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: a drum before, never had before. But like we said,

440
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: like y'all have, I've never seen that much fat all before.

441
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: So back home, I think we talked about it. Like

442
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: I think by the time they get to Texas there's

443
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: a war out, like they've already stut fits today. I'm

444
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: fat on them yesterday, you know. So I think if

445
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: we if we did have birds like that, we probably

446
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: would cook them that way. But it's not a whole

447
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: lot of I hunted last winter down not in Texas,

448
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: but down in South Louisiana, and I couldn't believe that

449
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: birds weren't like they are where they got all that fat.

450
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: But when we get them, when we get ducks, so

451
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: our youth duck season is it's like I think, late September. Yeah,

452
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: late September is youth duck season. And at that point

453
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: there's nothing. I mean, it's like paper mache. Their skin

454
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: full of pin feathers, no fat, real thin skin, and

455
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: you just brought will breast and take the thighs by

456
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: now though, like you said, man, they got three eights

457
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: of an inch of just beautiful fat on them. And

458
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: so at that point I like to cook them like

459
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: that because I like the fat on that ship. Hey, Steve,

460
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: for our listeners, can you let them know what like

461
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: that is? Like? How you cut that out? Oh? What

462
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: what coal is referring to is? I actually stole it.

463
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: I stole the idea you from when I was in

464
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: I went to University Montana and for some reason they

465
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: came out with a University Montana Wild Game Cookbook because

466
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: some guy that ran the cafeteria or something was into

467
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't I don't never understood it, but I had

468
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: the book and I made some things out of it.

469
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: There was like a rolled meat loaf of spinach and

470
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: pine nuts and ship in it that I liked a lot.

471
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Then there was a uh way that he liked to

472
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: cut his ducks. And you plucked the duck. You don't

473
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: pluck the back. You plucked the breast kind of down

474
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: to whereas bat kind of squares off. Now you don't

475
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: need to go all the way to the spine, but

476
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: you plucked the side down and plucked the drumstick down.

477
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: Then you go to like breasts out, but you're taking

478
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: the breasts up with the skin on it. And then

479
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: you go down and pop his ball joint at the

480
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: head of his femur, and you wind up with a breath.

481
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: This isn't all of our cookbooks we always show it.

482
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: You wind up with a breast with the skin on it,

483
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: the thigh and drums the drumming with the skin all

484
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: the way around it, and they're held together by the skin.

485
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful little package. People to look at

486
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: it like want to eat that ship when you get

487
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: it cleaned up, nice beautiful. And that's how I always

488
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: always like ducks. This time you'd have a lot of fat.

489
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: I clean them one way and I cook them one way.

490
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: You said, what do you you say? You pans serum

491
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: getting any thumb, and I get. I turned my oven

492
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: on four. I get a pan ripping hot, like a

493
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: cast iron whatever, cast iron pan, let's say, ripping hot,

494
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of oil on it, put salt and

495
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: pepper on both sides, and I put it skin down

496
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: on that pan, and maybe five four or five minutes

497
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, just I keep checking it. When it's gold

498
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: and crispy, I flip them skin side up and stick

499
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: them in my oven. And I put them in my oven,

500
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: not even nowhere near ten minutes, pretty rare, right rare

501
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: in the middle, crispy fat. Then we serve it with

502
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: like like last night, Well, there's some where my kids made.

503
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: They picked a bunch of raspberries and they make a

504
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: recipe which is basically raspberries and ship loads of sugar

505
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: and they call ice cream topping. It's pretty good. Anyways,

506
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: we serve that stuff they made with the ducks last night.

507
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: Everybody likes ducks like chut knees. I was trying to

508
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: explain shut to my kids last night. Is it like

509
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: a glaze it's just like no, I just just yeah,

510
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: just spread it out a little bit, a little bit

511
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: on it. Sweet is good. You know. I was trying

512
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: to explain shot it was someone's like a growing up jelly. Yeah,

513
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try that. Like like in East texts, we

514
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: fry everything, So I don't think. I don't think enough

515
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: people that we grew up hunting with knew how to

516
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: cook it that way. That's why we would always cut

517
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: the breast out. And I've never even heard of that.

518
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: So when you said that, we were like, that sounds great,

519
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: and then you explained it definitely, definitely not. I'm sending

520
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: three home with you. I brought him to work today,

521
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: got the ducks from yesterday. He's already got I really

522
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: wish my kids hadn't gotten sick, because I was looking

523
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: forward to having you guys for dinner, cooking a bunch

524
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 1: of ducks last night schedule. Um, that's a good way

525
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: to eat ducks. I would do that. And then when

526
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: I was little we had them, we would sometimes breast

527
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: him out and fry him in a deep friar, But

528
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: the main way is we would pluck the whole thing.

529
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: And then my mom had caught up apples and whatnot

530
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: and stuff them, put foil over, put them in the oven,

531
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: take the foil off in the end. We ate a

532
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: lot of ducks that way, especially wood ducks, stuff with

533
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: like apples and what else is she putting their never

534
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 1: never sit Remember remember remember that salad that like if

535
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: you went to a church pot luck when you were

536
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: a kid, would be like the main thing everybody brought,

537
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: like apples and mayo and ray sasons. You know what

538
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Like marshmallow, isn't it. I thought it

539
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: was like like green and cherry jello. When you were

540
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: down to Twin Lake United Methodist Church for a potlock,

541
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: there was like some things that were probably gonna be there.

542
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: A lot of people are gonna bring deviled eggs, a

543
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna bring jello with marshmallows and

544
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: cut up grapes in it. And a lot of people

545
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: are gonna bring apples smother than mayo with walnuts and raisins.

546
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: So my mom would basically make a Waldorf salad minus

547
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: the mayo and it was good and stuff the duck

548
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: with it. We had a lot of ducks like that.

549
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: So there's marshmallow, no, no, no no, marshmallting Abrosia. I didn't

550
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: know what to twin Church Ambrosia. Yeah, that was a

551
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: very powerful their dish and I was a kid man.

552
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: It was just coming off of like like my Grandma

553
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Rose would make a dish that I still don't understand.

554
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: It was jello and in the jello was minted up

555
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: celery and walnuts. Interesting, it was like national lamps, like

556
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: like the like the cat and the kibbles and ship

557
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: or whatever in South jell. So what the hell are

558
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: we talking about eating ducks? Well, Dre when you talk

559
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: about air frying the duck, like, I'm still not checked out,

560
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Even mean? I mean, I'm a

561
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: big fan of the air fried just because on the

562
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: bus we don't have an oven because you gotta live

563
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: on a bus. Yeah we we we live on the bus.

564
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: But I've got so used to it that I bought

565
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: one for the house and now like anything you can

566
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: cook in the oven or like smaller stuff like I'll

567
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: buy like I got their steak in it the other

568
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: day it went bad and then um, I cooked chickens

569
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: the best chicken I ever made, Like I cooked it

570
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: in their friar. I'm just you can do anything in there.

571
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: It's eating salt pepper. Throw it in there. However the

572
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: heat and then boom you ever put like a piece

573
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: of deer meeting there. Not yet there, I'm not fully

574
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: convinced on there far yet it's misleading. It's it's just

575
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: a little oven, just a little bit of them. He's

576
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: it's like a little convection of it. Right, it's got

577
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: like perfect sounds better. I got one. I should have called.

578
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: We should have had Dave Williams on to ask Dave

579
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Williams this question. Dave Williams is lawyer, buddy of ours.

580
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: He's like a real specialist in fishing game law. Here's

581
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: a great question we encountered yesterday. These boys live on

582
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: a tour bus. So you clean ducks, right, and to

583
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: transport ducks, they're supposed to have a head or a

584
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: fully feathered head or a wing still attached, but they

585
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: live and eat on the bus. So right, so here

586
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: you are crossing state lines, but your ducks are all

587
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: cleaned out. Would be a great case if you got

588
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: caught in boss that and then got exonerated based off

589
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: the fact that you live on the bus and it

590
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: is your house. It's home. It's like where you brought

591
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: it to, where are you plan on eating it? But

592
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: that thing just happens to move. And to add to

593
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: the argument, his name is legally on the bus, like

594
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: the the titles and stuff, so like he like, legally

595
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: he could drive the bus. Not that we whatever want

596
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: that situation, but it's like I came from you buying

597
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: r V. It's under your name. You can drive it

598
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: because you are the owner and you're you're on the

599
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: title of the vehicle. So you would win that case

600
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: hands down. Similarly, let's say you move, so you take

601
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: your freezer and put it in a moving truck and

602
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: move it across state lines. No one's gonna no one's

603
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: gonna bust you for moving waterfowl across state lines. How

604
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: often do you think your buddy that's attorney deals with

605
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: that kind of like those cases where like you could

606
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: there's two sides to it. Uh, we bring up a

607
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: lot of really esoteric violations to him, and he'll point

608
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: out that no one. I don't want to put words

609
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: in Dave's mouth, but basically these aren't commonly used things.

610
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: But when you've done something real bad and they want

611
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: to really cook the books on you, so that when

612
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: you plea it down, you're still screwed. Then they start

613
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: coming in with all the like esoteric, Oh and you

614
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: did this, and you did that, and you did this,

615
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: you do that, and then you got like twelve counts

616
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: out when you have ducks like yeah, And then he said,

617
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: that's when a lot of that stuff gets utilized. You've

618
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: been up to something no good and they really just

619
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: want to make the stack. Yeah, then you get the

620
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: violation stacked on you. How'd you guys meet because you

621
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: I heard you. He met you because he wanted to

622
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: meet you because you partied a lot. Well, it was like, yeah,

623
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: So I had a bunch of buddies that were so

624
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: towns in these Texas, they're so close to each other,

625
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: you know, and pretty much everybody knows each other. And

626
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: usually whenever Pittsburgh will go to a mel pleasant or

627
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: pleasant go to Pittsburgh, or if you went outside of

628
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: your town, you're more or less gonna get into a fight.

629
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: In high school, you know, And uh, I was gone

630
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: for something for the weekend or something, and he came

631
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: down to Pittsburgh with a bunch of his boys, and

632
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: my buddy was throwing a party and uh one of

633
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: his buddies was about to fight one of my buddies,

634
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: and Drake come up to my guys. He's like, hey,

635
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: let's I'll know some some ship's about to go down.

636
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Just had a little heads up. I appreciate it, and

637
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: she as ship did. And uh, they come back. He's

638
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: called Monther. They're like, dude, you gotta just cat dre'

639
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: school as fun. You know. He he told us about

640
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: you know what was about to go down, and he's

641
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: a dog man. I was like, hell yeah then, so

642
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: we got just after that, we got to start hanging

643
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: out man, and he liked to hunt. We all hunted together,

644
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: so and you guys were into music and hunting at

645
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: that time. I remember seeing another another reason this was

646
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: when either my into my Space or early Facebook, when

647
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: whenever you shot ducks at the time, he'd be like

648
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: for wood ducks and had a great duck right you

649
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: posted every Saturday because you don't have school, what did

650
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: your Friday wake ups already to go duck hunting. His

651
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: buddies would always have the post of all the ducks.

652
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, this guys the party that

653
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: get up and kill ducks. And and I was like,

654
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: I gotta hang out these guys and man they had

655
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: killed today like me and Hammer. One of those guys

656
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Taylor. We're both in his wedding a

657
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. Like, we still all hunt together

658
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: once a year. We go down to a Maila and

659
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: hunt with my buddy Toby, and I mean, it's just

660
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: pretty cool that we all it started from duck hunting

661
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: and fifteen years later we are we're hunting in my space,

662
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: that's right. But what kind of wanted was at the time.

663
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: I remember Tom was one of my friends, So what

664
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: a duck? What? What? What was like a typical duck

665
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: hunting scenario for you guys back then? Uh, usually walk

666
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: about a mile or two in later in mud up

667
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: knees into just uh, we would hunt. We would hunt

668
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: like flooded fields. Yeah, a bunch of lose a lot

669
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: of you know, not a whole lot of saying it

670
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: like flooded timber. But um, when we found it whatever

671
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: we did have flooded timber, we get into it. But

672
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: I mean we would go we hunt les a lot

673
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: as well. Becare's so many legs around these Texas. I

674
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: mean we would get done with a football game on

675
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: Friday night, get all the gear, put it in the boat,

676
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: drive out to the spot, because you know, everybody wanted

677
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: to get there like three or four in the morning.

678
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: And we would put out our spread, you know, and

679
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: sleep in the boat overnight and then wake up Saturday

680
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: morning so people wouldn't get into our spread, you know.

681
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: And oh, dude, we're mad at him back then. You know,

682
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: like we're not as mad now, uh as we worry

683
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: back then, but yeah, we were. It was hardcore. It was.

684
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: It was kind of you know, you duck hunt in

685
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: the morning and then uh go sitting a deer stand

686
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: during the evening. So did your dad hunt? Yeah? Yeah,

687
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: big big hunter. Man was he got He got you

688
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: into it? Uh yeah, not so much duck hunting, but

689
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: deer hunting for sure. Yeah, he's a big deer hunter.

690
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, man, always been about it. I saw you

691
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: my mom. You're like, so your mom doesn't like huting.

692
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: It's not that she doesn't like hunting, it's just like

693
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: she just doesn't like she's uh, she's more like go

694
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: to the beach and drink a couple of pens lots,

695
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, are your mind? Dad's a little together yeah. Still,

696
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: and where do they live? So? Yeah, So I have

697
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: a construction company up in Lubbick that my dad runs,

698
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: so he moves back and forth from Lubbock to Pittsburgh

699
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: back in Ease, Texas. And my mom still works for

700
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: the school in Pittsburgh. Uh and you pointed sandhill cranes

701
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: up by the love Yeah. Yeah, that's good time right

702
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: by the sky. Yeah. Do you fish much? Yeah? I

703
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: do a lot of fishing, man, a lot of fishing.

704
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: We did, Uh, we were just up here actually, I

705
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: was telling Karim we we did. We're supposed to fish

706
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: the Gallatson, but I think we ended up fishing the

707
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: Madison because then you'll have that the big the flood,

708
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: the big right and run off. So the water was

709
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of shitty, but I mean we caught caught some

710
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: good browns. Uh. But yeah that was what to two

711
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: months ago? Two or three months ago? Yeah? Yeah, fishing.

712
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: But uh, did you like that or did you find

713
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: it a little a feat No? I love fly fish.

714
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for I got into it probably

715
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: five or six years ago. Like I'm still nowhere near

716
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: you know where I'd like to be on it. But

717
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: fought fish is just not the biggest thing in Texas.

718
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, it's more about you know, largemouth bass

719
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: and going off into the cold gulf and uh stuff

720
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: like that. So you know, you know you should do

721
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: down in Texas. Man, I should introduce you. You should

722
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: go out with you should go out fishing, uh redfish

723
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: and and trout with Gt. Vans And you ever met him,

724
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: you guys probably hit it off absolutely. Where's he out

725
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: of He fishes out of Rockport? Rockport? Yeah, my one

726
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: of my guitar players, his wife. Um, their family owns.

727
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if they own to just me and

728
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: them on a play. I know they got a boat

729
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: down there. Yeah, I think they have a closer close

730
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: to Rockport, but YadA cod fishing. Yeah. JT is fun

731
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: to be out in the water with because he's like

732
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: a real student of the water. He's one of those

733
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: guys who knows everything about fishing like that. Yeah he

734
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: Um doesn't he have girls too? Yeah, he's got he's

735
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: very good fisherman and uh, he's like a real cheerleader

736
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: for the area. But then he gets a couple of

737
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: cocktails and then he gets into like what's not right

738
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: about the area, So you get a real. Well you

739
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: get you get all the love and in the evening

740
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: you get all the fear man. So you get the

741
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: full package of you get the full package of the

742
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: Gulf Coast. You get like all the things to celebrate

743
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: and then all the things to be worried about. Um,

744
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: so it's a complete tour hanging out there. I like

745
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: to just do it already. Did you know Chester that

746
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Um remember the Remember we had the cody from Whiskey Myers.

747
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: These guys are talking about him, sending out like, uh,

748
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: what's he got a new He's got a new lure. Yeah,

749
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: he's got uh, I can't remember what it's called. You

750
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: guys got a bunch of top water frogs and he's

751
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: send a bunch of it out to the house to day.

752
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah he's he's a big time and he's a big

753
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: hunter fisher, but he he spends a lot of time

754
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: on the water. Um. And yeah, he just come out

755
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: with a prototype. It's actually really good. I was telling

756
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: you I was just throwing it in my pool and

757
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: you know, working it like they have coady. It's pretty good,

758
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: pretty good frog. But those guys sponsor some like elite

759
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: bass guys or a elite bas Gut Whiskey Myers. I'm

760
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: pretty sure. Yeah, they fished a lot with Jason Cohn

761
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: on on fork, same guy. We uh we run around

762
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: with two. So yeah, forks, have you ever fished fork

763
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: like fork in Texas? No, it's it's the lake, that's

764
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: that's the hammer there. Bro, when when did you when

765
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: you were growing up and you'd like to hunt, Um,

766
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: tell me about how music became right, like how it

767
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: became more than I don't know, no, like how it

768
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: became like, holy sh it, you can do this for

769
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: a living, right? Uh? That was probably like No, I

770
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: guess around high school like I've been on stage, That's

771
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: how I was sick a pageant kid, Yeah, I know, uh,

772
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: just like my mom. She uh she toured around a

773
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: little bit, played like old all prey houses and ship

774
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: with like with a live band. Yeah yeah, she's singing

775
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: her ass off. Man, she sings better than me, seriously,

776
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she kills it um. And so like I

777
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: was a little she had a kid like running up

778
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: and down the owls people were performing and you know,

779
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: annoying the band and ship. So like I was always

780
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: around it. And then I got in high school learning

781
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: guitar and stuff. Started writing a little bit and I

782
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: would play, like, you know, a little bars around my hometown.

783
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: But it was always, you know, it was never a

784
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: thing that I thought I would really pursue. Uh. And

785
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: then I got into got into college what to Tarlton

786
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: State on the football scholarship got up there, and I

787
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: was like, damn it sucks. You know, like I could

788
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: be out playing and you know, partying and living it up.

789
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: And what position did you play? I was a linebacker? Linebacker,

790
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna

791
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: make it to the NFL, but you just knew that

792
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: I can get some free beer down the street, you know,

793
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: and a case of free beer and singing a couple

794
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: of songs and you might get a kiss on a

795
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: girl later on that night. So I was like, then

796
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: screw this, I'm out. So dropped out of school. Actually

797
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I didn't drop out. I got I got kicked out

798
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: of school. And then they were like they're like, they

799
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: were like, you you go you go to this like

800
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: when you got kicked out, I got quit. Okay, this

801
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: brings up a co I had to go to a

802
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: junior college for a semester to get my grades back.

803
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: So I could come back, and so you started doing

804
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: bad and great, yeah, and then so they put me

805
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: on probation. Had you go to a junior college first semester.

806
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: I walked in the classroom and looked around, was like,

807
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, I screwed this. I'm not even gonna do it.

808
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: So that was it for college. That was it for college.

809
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: And then we really hit it hard as far as

810
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: gigging and stuff, like a couple of years not frog gigging,

811
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: no show gigging, road dogs, hitting the road over Texas

812
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: and who's we Me and a couple of my buddies

813
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: from back home, and then uh, I think, now I

814
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: have I have two guys with me that have been

815
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: with me for damn there ten years, my guitar and

816
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: bass player. And then um Dre was actually playing drums

817
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: from my cousin at the time. And then they started

818
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: slowing down on gigs and stuff and I was doing

819
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: a drummer and I was like, dude, you just want

820
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: to come on the road with us, and he was like, hell, yeah,

821
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: let's do it. So we picked up I think I

822
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: pulled up to this. I was like, actually, our buddy

823
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: had an internship in Austin and they were paying him.

824
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: They were paying all of his rent for a one

825
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: bedroom apartment in Austin, and he was likensip it was

826
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: as construction company, and he was he was you get

827
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: an internship at a construction company that puts you up

828
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: in an apartment Texas is wild. It was part of

829
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: a deal. It was kind of part of the deal. Yeah,

830
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: but uh no. So he was like, no, one, why

831
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: don't you come and live down with us in Austin

832
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: for you know, six or seven months. So I load

833
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: it up, I go pick up dre and I pulled

834
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: it to his house and he's got his drum set

835
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: and like a trash bag full of clothes. And I'm like,

836
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: is this everything you have? And he's like yeah, he's

837
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: got like tw years old down as he never left.

838
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: How pleasant. I was crying and we you know, we

839
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: get on the road. You're crying about leaving home. Yeah,

840
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: I've never left a whole lot. Born born in that house,

841
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: not in the house, but hospital, but came home in

842
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: that house. And I thought he was so full of

843
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: ship and he's like, dude, we really want to do this.

844
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: And we were like we're in the middle of recording

845
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: no one's complaining, I think, which is the album that

846
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, kind of set everything off for for Co

847
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: and the guys. And uh, he was like, let's we're

848
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: moving Austin free rent one bedroom and it sounded like

849
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: you mean you're gonna move because you're playing on moving

850
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: into the construction dudes. Yeah, one of our best friends.

851
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: But with our thoughts were Austin is like a bigger city.

852
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: We live in a tiny town. We can get more

853
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: meet people, music every every d Yeah, there's a couple

854
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: of booking agencies and managers and we needed some kind

855
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: of direction because we're really gonna do this. Well. Then

856
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: he shows up my house and I'm like, oh, ship,

857
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a suitcase, Like I don't own a suitcase.

858
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: I've never really left. And he picks me up and

859
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: we're getting in the truck. Like you said, I'm like

860
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: tearing up, like texting my mom like I think we're

861
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: really leaving, and she's like, oh, yeah, we went to

862
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah crying in Spanish, how that sound? Yeah, Like I

863
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: think we had enough money for it. It's like getting

864
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: down to Austin and like we're about to get on

865
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: the interstate and he's being real quid. I was like, dude,

866
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? He's like, that's gonna be a

867
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: lot had a problemise, And you guys weren't like packing down.

868
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: You didn't pack down like you're all you're like, you

869
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: weren't moving moving no, I mean just going for a while.

870
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: But like, we didn't have a lot of we didn't

871
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: have I think we had like a bad I had

872
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: a couple of suitcase is and a couple of guitars,

873
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: and he had his set and a couple of duck decoys.

874
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: Has a couple of duck decoys. All our guns and

875
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: uh like I said, and like I said, this is

876
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: a one bedroom, one bathroom apartment. And we're you know,

877
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: we're not We're not small, man, We're pretty big dudes,

878
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: and our buddies just as big as we are. And

879
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: uh so he would be gone at work all day

880
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: or and we would just sit there and kind of,

881
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: you know whatever, waiting for a little bit of this

882
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: noise noise complaint money that he hit and finally it did.

883
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: I think our first check was like four hundred bugs

884
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: and we went to Top Golf to night and spent

885
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: three So we're back to Square one were we know,

886
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: we thought we were on the top of the world,

887
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: all right, next three months wrote some damn good songs

888
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: in that apartment though, So, like, did your so what

889
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: did your so? Your mom was in the music business,

890
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: dad was in construction. Were they pissed when he failed

891
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: out of college? Oh? Yeah, you're man, Oh yeah, absolutely.

892
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: Did they tell you can't be a musician? Uh No,

893
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: that was never that was never a thing. Like they

894
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: always been really supportive of you know, like once I

895
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: actually wanted to pursue it and I was like, you know,

896
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: this is something I'm gonna do, they were really supportive

897
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: of it. So, um, I never really had that problem

898
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: with him. They've it's kind of whatever I've always wanted

899
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: to do there, They've been really supportive. So that's good. Yeah,

900
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: that's a hot tip for parents, man. But no, they're great.

901
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't know. But like like I like

902
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: I always say, like, had I not done that, I'd

903
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: be back in East Texas working road construction, a couple

904
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: of kids, you know, my mom and she wants a

905
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: grand baby so bad. My sister is getting married in December.

906
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, as soon as this fine lives let's

907
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: get to work. We need some grand babies because I'm

908
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: tired of this pressure on me, Like I'm the oldest

909
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: someone mom wants a grand baby really bad. I'm like, huh,

910
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: probably got a couple of them run around out there.

911
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know about when you were. When you

912
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: were when you learn how to play guitar? Uh, Like

913
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, guys in my area, all

914
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: the guys in my area to learn how to play

915
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: a guitar. We're learning because in order to play like

916
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: two songs and they all learned the same Gordon Lightfoot

917
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: and like a John Prime song. No, you learned how

918
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: to play fred Bear my uncle ted Um, that'd be

919
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: like a big one you'd want to learn for trying

920
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: what else? Like, it's just everybody would know how to play.

921
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: That was kind of like that inspired so many people

922
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: to get into guitar. Damn what's that song? Yeah? Like

923
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: when what? At what your age? What were you guys

924
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: trying to learn how to play? Actually posted a picture

925
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: that so long ago, my set list from high schools

926
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: that I would go to bars and play. You know,

927
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: I'd play three or four hours set, so I would

928
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: play a lot of covers and then try to sneak

929
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: can songs I wrote or my cousins that wrote, And

930
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: that's a lot of songs. Dude. Four Oh yeah, yeah,

931
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: you played for an hour, you get like a ten

932
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: minute break. He played for an hour, you know as

933
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: hell make I'm worried about playing for forty five minutes.

934
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: But like, like looking back on it now, like I

935
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: can't remember half the half of those songs because you know,

936
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: we've been playing all hard music for so long now,

937
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: and they all they don't play covers anymore. So, um,

938
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: we'll give me, for instance, like an early song that

939
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: you'd love to play O Man Friends and low Places.

940
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: You know you were born in nine Yeah, for sure.

941
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: I was like an old man when that song came out.

942
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I was washing dishes at Steiner's point. Yeah, just like

943
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: the crowd favorites, you know, like I don't know Garth

944
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: Brooks anything or anything not George just like boy George,

945
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: George George straight Yeah, culture club think covers, but we've

946
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: covered funny you say that though, back to the original

947
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: thing about learning guys how to play around the uh,

948
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: like two songs. I don't think most people pick up

949
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: a guitargo and this thing right here is going to

950
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: change the rest of my life. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

951
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write my own songs, play them, record on

952
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: people by them, and I'll make a living. Like I

953
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: don't think most people. I've thought about that before. Like

954
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: I think most of us, the most guys, including myself,

955
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: was to pick up chicks or play at bonfires around

956
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: like Partester learn he was trying to pick up his

957
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: own white I mean, seriously funny, funny. I mentioned Whiskey Myers.

958
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: The first song I ever learned was a Whiskey Meyer song,

959
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 1: Broke the Windows. It was two chords and see and eat,

960
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: and I learned how to play it. And to this day,

961
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: if Drake gets gets hard as that's the only song

962
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: pay fourteen miles kind of a minor and there's kind

963
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: of hard for me other than that. But seriously, I

964
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: think that's what most people start doing it for. And

965
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: like like for your in your instance, like now you

966
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: get to go open a gig. It what's a pretty badass. Yeah,

967
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's good for you. That's cool. Yeah,

968
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: And I know I've said this before, but like I

969
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: picked up that guitar being like, my number one goal

970
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: is I just want to try and get through this

971
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: song at my wedding. What song was? It was Tyler

972
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Childer's song Lady May. And then people I didn't like clarify,

973
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: Oh this is a good story. My aunt uncle were

974
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: crying and people were crying and they're like that, I

975
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: cannot believe you wrote that. I should have kept going.

976
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: Jester had a solid writer version of Stolen valid. I

977
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't write that, thank you. Yeah, that fact.

978
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe the song Chester. I mean, there's a video.

979
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: We have a video of it, which is pretty funny

980
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: because there's like pan of the crowd a few times

981
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: and people are like wiping their Did they go viral

982
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: on TikTok? No, there's another guy that did the same

983
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: thing but to a different song. Then I've seen it.

984
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: He was like, I just learned how to play this

985
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: this song. Like last week, I just made a fun

986
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 1: on the wall the people leaving the wood, Like damn.

987
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: He was such a great songs going through Who's Who's

988
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: Lady Man? We'll go with it. Were you guys, did

989
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: you guys start bow hunting his kids or only later? Yeah?

990
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I started boing when I was eight years old, because

991
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: like what brought you into that? Yeah? Yeah, my granddad

992
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: and they, you know, they came to bow hunting and

993
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: it was an extra month of the hunting. So I

994
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: got into it. I didn't kill my first year with

995
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: the boat, so I was like probably tiena e Levin. Uh,

996
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It's I've just always been addicted

997
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: to it, like everything about it, you know. And then

998
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: once I got into high school, Uh, I kind of

999
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: just went full archery. Like I'm not hardly ever rifle

1000
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: hunt unless you know, it's you know, somebody wants me

1001
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: to or you know, however it is. But yeah, I

1002
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: mean I mostly just both hunt. Now, well, you I

1003
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: just got my first bow like six months ago. I

1004
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: haven't trying to get him into it like five years,

1005
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: and he just said, thought about it. My jps like

1006
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: been bow hunt for a couple of years. Yeah, Well

1007
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: I started with the recurve. So it's a little bit

1008
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: did ye all natural? Ever since I was a kid,

1009
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: I've I've always shot rabbits and stuff. I never never

1010
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: went for deer because it was just my dad didn't

1011
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: hunt a whole lot, so I didn't know how to

1012
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: do it at all. Um, but yeah, I have a

1013
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: recurve bow and I love it. And then I was like,

1014
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: you know what, this is a little too hard right now,

1015
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: So I went, you know, backtrack. I guess I don't know.

1016
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: I got a Matthews and started shooting it last year

1017
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: and killed the dough and I was like, this is

1018
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: really addicting, so fun. Jesse used to make recurve bos. Really,

1019
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: that's sick. Slice my finger. When I was looking at

1020
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: I was like, with shot a dough with the recurve

1021
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: or a long bow? I built nice? Slice my finger?

1022
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: You know? Like? What song I keep thinking about Chester

1023
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: when I think about you and your guitar? Is that song? Um?

1024
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: That one guitar just blew him away? I don't know

1025
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: he yeah, he beat up six the second hand. I

1026
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: didn't know how to play it. I'm gonna rewrite that

1027
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: for about Chester. Are you gonna hire Steve to be

1028
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: a backup singer? Sure? So we should be writing about Chester, man,

1029
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: it'd be so funny. Imagine imagine that that article Steve

1030
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: goes on the tool Dude, I just you know what

1031
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: it is. It's um jukebox hero, It's it's called wedding hero,

1032
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: and we rewrite the whole thing. It's it's juke by,

1033
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: it's chest It's wedding hero, set the jukebox hero, and

1034
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: it's all about chester O God that one good time.

1035
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: He's away, but she's got stars in her eyes. Now

1036
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: he's got She's a wedding hero. He's a wedding hero.

1037
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: She's got Stop. And there's that a little bit like tonight,

1038
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen tonight? I mean, I don't know what

1039
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: happened on your weddy night. I don't want to venture

1040
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: to guess interject when interesting hunting stuff comes up. But

1041
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: so you're running around playing, You're like living in this

1042
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: this apartment, writing songs, doing covers, making fifty bucks? Is

1043
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: it like in the I recently watched The Weird al Um.

1044
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: The Weird al You're like Weird Al Yankovic did a

1045
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: spoof on music biographies, you know, all the tropes and

1046
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: music biographies. And one of the things I was reading

1047
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: an interview with them about making the movie, and you

1048
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: talked about when you're watching music biographies, like all the

1049
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: major ship happens in one night, like they get an

1050
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: amazing gig. The record company guy comes backstage. You know

1051
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's like in one night, it's like

1052
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: every Yeah. So, uh how long did that play out?

1053
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Speaker 1: I mean it could't have played out over excruciating long

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01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: period of time. Did you not that old? I mean,

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01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: so we started hitting the road pretty hard, like in

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01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: thirteen twelve, thirteen fourteen, and then um, like I said, man,

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean we did that forever. Dre was actually he

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01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: was playing drums force and booking our shows and uh,

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: what was your? So we come up with the name

1060
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: for a book because we didn't have a book in Asia,

1061
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: and Dre made up a fake name to email bars

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: and stuff and was like, hey, I'm with Cowutzel. What

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: days all I have? You know? What was you? Andy Weskers?

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: Because we were drinking soon was whiskey at the time

1065
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: when we get drunk, like you got any more that

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01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: Waskers and so like that became his nickname. And uh

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01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: so you were an email as an individual? Yeah, you

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01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: just I mean think about it. These bars were getting

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01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: a thousand kids that guitar or you know, I want

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01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: to come play the bar, and they all promised that

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01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: their hometown they're they're from there. My all, my family

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01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: will come out and all the bars interested in making money.

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they want to help the artist. But my

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: thoughts are they've never heard of probably Cowtson. If they have,

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01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: they don't know anything about them. So on our website

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: put booking agent contacts. Andy Askers made an email. Still

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: use the email to today. I'll see you an email

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01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: sometimes so you can see Andy Asker's still a signature.

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01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: And here was w A s k e er. What's

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: w know? Yeah, yeah, w h A as like whiskey,

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01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: but Askers Yeah, and I would just I had like

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01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: this little copy and pasting that said, hey, I represent

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01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: Cowtzon many uh, you want to come play a show.

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01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: And sometimes you have to like I have to like

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01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: like find like a happy medium because they're like, I

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01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: don't know who you are, but I'm never where's your website,

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01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: where's your address? This isn't legit, but they but once

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01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: we showed up and you know the crowd, that's kind

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01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: of when we started getting some momentum, they were like damn.

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01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure Andy Astro went through the industry

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01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: of actual legit people like who is this guy? And

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01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: then I meet these people in there that's you, like

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01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: and we pulled up the college Stay show all the time,

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01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: and it was like we hadn't put out no it's complained,

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: but we were still pulling pretty good crowds. And up,

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01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: what's a good crowd in those days? I mean two

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01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: hundred people? Which which are you talking about a bunch

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01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: of drunk college kids? So like it felt like two uh.

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01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: Guy goes up, he goes hey, so where's where's Andy at?

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01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, he's like Andy West because like shit,

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01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: like right here? And he was like, aren't you the drummer?

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: And he was like, you know what's going on? And

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01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: so we tell them this toy and we still laugh

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01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: about it to day whenever we get to see him.

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01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: But Chris box from But yeah, it's back to what

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01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: you were asking. Like, so at the time, we're living

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01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: in this apartment, I'm booking these shows. But like when

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01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: I when I say like, and I've said this before,

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01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,959
Speaker 1: like if we didn't book shows or I didn't book shows,

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01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: we didn't have any money to do anything, and that

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: includes eating food and we like to eat food. Yeah,

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: so I would book a show and like in that

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01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: show contract, I would put most importantly a bottle of

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels. Food was this pizza and it was like

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: six of us traveling. At the time, we didn't have

1116
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot. Guy. Now it's thirty of

1117
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: us traveling together. But the time he was six of us,

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01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: one van or my mom's car, his truck, you know whatever.

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01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: Um so I would put like a pizza or like

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01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: you have to supply dinner and I don't. We didn't

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01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: care if it was McDonald's or pizza hud. It was

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: part of it. So we started gaining a traction that way.

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Speaker 1: And the kind of snowball from there. What's that, Kylie?

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01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: We've dealt it? Like, what's that when you do live shows?

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Speaker 1: There's the Yeah, I just had to do that. What's

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: in your writer? Then? Uh, it's not much. Let me

1127
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: let me make one to send it to you. You

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01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: can send you have hotel for you and six boxes

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: of pizza. Well, I just didn't know what to put down.

1130
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe a couple of light beers. Yeah,

1131
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: ours was, oh yeah, I could walk ours, and then

1132
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: they go overboard and you feel it. Bags is all

1133
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: that they're probably too much ship. Oh maybe I want

1134
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: a little half and half of my coffee. Then you

1135
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: go there and there's a gallon of that, and you

1136
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: know it's just gonna wind up in the trash. I

1137
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: just thought about this but that all the time. We

1138
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: played in Houston Fire Else to Learn, and we go

1139
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: to get paid and the guy was like, what are

1140
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: you talking about? Like, where's our where's our showing money?

1141
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: He's like, you owe me two hundred dollars and I

1142
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: was like wait what There's like four people in the

1143
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: bar and he's like, yeah, I need two hundred dollars.

1144
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: I was like, well, we don't have any where do

1145
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: we have money to get back home? Like what are

1146
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: you talking about? He's like, well, your guys drink way

1147
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: more than that. So like eventually he turned it down.

1148
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: He's like, made us only pay like a hundred bucks.

1149
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, we had to give them a hundred bucks

1150
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: to play at their at their venue. So yeah, it

1151
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: was just ship like that did uh? How like how

1152
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: does it go that you? Because if it's your first album,

1153
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: it's not like someone commissions you had you know, it's

1154
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: not like someone like does an advance on a new

1155
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: album because you haven't proven yourself yet, you know, so

1156
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: how does that work? Like you make it? You promote it,

1157
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: it gets out there, and then all of a sudden,

1158
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: someone wants to not publish it, but someone wants to

1159
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: distribute it. Yeah, so I guess kind of for us,

1160
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: it was just it kind of spread like wild wildfire

1161
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: for in Texas, and then once it got in Texas

1162
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: and kind of blew up there. I went to Oklahoma

1163
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: and Arkansas is you know, you know places you feel

1164
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: it spread like geographic like, yeah, it was just all Twitter,

1165
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: straight fan base. Yeah, like people started sharing it, you know,

1166
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: and uh, we didn't have anybody doing any of that

1167
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: for us. So once we started getting that momentum and

1168
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: playing all these shows, uh that's when book and ages started,

1169
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, hearing about us and other people like that,

1170
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: and and we didn't want management or anything like that.

1171
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: We just wanted somebody to book shouters for us, just

1172
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: so we could play in front of people, you know,

1173
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: wanted We wanted to be playing the two shows a year.

1174
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: You know, that was a deal. And hell, we did

1175
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: it for three or four years, and I just slowly

1176
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: started coming down because we didn't need to anymore. But uh, yeah, man,

1177
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: it was it was crazy there for a while, and

1178
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: it kind of happened really quick, but we followed it

1179
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: up a noise complaint with uh. It was like two

1180
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: or three years later, and I've been very blessed. Man

1181
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: were just just, uh, the fans like they've done everything

1182
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: for us pretty much. So yesterday we were hanging out.

1183
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: I was asking you about the role of Austin and

1184
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: being a Texas musician, and I thought it would be

1185
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: that it was you know, I think I oughtn't remember

1186
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: what I said to you, but I said something like,

1187
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: I assume you had you know that you had to

1188
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: spend all this time in Austin, and that's kind of

1189
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: your main proving ground and where you know, you when

1190
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: you're working on new material, you know, and Austin doesn't

1191
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: like in for you as a Texas musician. Austin doesn't

1192
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: hold that well. Austin's has so many different genres coming

1193
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: through of music, so it's not like like we play.

1194
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: When we started, it was like there's Texas country music,

1195
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: there's red dirt music up in Oklahoma, you know, and

1196
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: those two kind of merged to become like a genre

1197
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: of music. And so, uh, I don't know, like I said,

1198
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: Austin just has so many different styles of music, And uh,

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01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a place that we do really

1200
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: good in Austin, but it's not like for like Fort

1201
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: Worth was like approving ground for us for Stephenville. All

1202
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: the college towns, you know, East Texas would big that

1203
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of not a lot of places of

1204
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: play in East Texas and not a lot of artists

1205
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: that come out of each Texas. But h yeah, mostly

1206
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: we were just hitting college towns and we were pretty

1207
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: much just a college bar that you know, I was

1208
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: writing music and we had a more edgy sound than

1209
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: what Texas country was kind of brought up on. So

1210
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: I feel like that connected with the college kids a

1211
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: lot more. And uh, I don't know, but same. That's

1212
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of the reason we moved to Austin. Just like

1213
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: you thought Austin was that hub that's we thought so too.

1214
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: We're like, we live in a town where there's one

1215
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: bar and it's all the old people smoked cigarettes in

1216
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: there and play you know, and and just listen to

1217
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah it's funny. Yeah, exactly right, because we thought the

1218
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: same thing. We're like, if we moved to Austin, it's

1219
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: like our quote unquote like our Nashville for songwriters. We

1220
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: can go up here and and it's gonna be our ticket.

1221
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: Somebody will lists or find us. And it's actually as

1222
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: we started getting gaining that momentum that I mean, I

1223
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: was collecting money at the end of the night and uh,

1224
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what to do with

1225
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: this cash, Like they're gonna ask for w N. I

1226
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is, do you know what?

1227
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: I had no idea. But I also I didn't want

1228
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: to get taxed at the end of the year. And

1229
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: the kid, yeah, back with you. But that's kind of

1230
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: how things snowballed for us. But I mean, coach nailed

1231
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: it on the head. It's it was the college town

1232
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: at the time we were. I mean it's been seven

1233
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: eight years ago. We were more in college age. So

1234
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 1: like those college kids, I think that we came in

1235
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: at the perfect time where those college it's like, really

1236
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: needed somebody to be like, those are the guys I

1237
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: want to go watch. I mean, we drank a lot.

1238
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: We partied with him, and yeah, it's like, I don't

1239
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: mus a kid. You know, it's about party and having

1240
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: a good time, you know, the ship that college kids do.

1241
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: So they we were they related with us a lot,

1242
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, and I was, you know, around that that time,

1243
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: we were the same age, and I was doing so

1244
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: well in college and uh yeah, So I think we're

1245
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: just really relatable to all the college crowd and stuff,

1246
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: and it's kind of what helped us, you know. And

1247
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 1: still to this day, you know, we'll go to college

1248
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: towns and I like, I keep telling everybody I've been

1249
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: I've been in college for ten years now, you know.

1250
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: So I remember you said that yesterday. I didn't know

1251
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: what you mean. I'm still going strong, mom dad. And

1252
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: then I told him, I was like, when you're not

1253
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: a doctor, He said, uh, you know, I keep wanting

1254
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: to ask you too. And this isn't in any kind

1255
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: of order. Does your family trace their lineage to um

1256
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: Lou Wetzel The Death Wind? You ever hear Lou Wetzel? No? No,

1257
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: you hear the Bear Grease podcast, You'd be very wise

1258
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: to go. It's on our podcast Network News Podcasts are

1259
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: Clay New come out of Arkansas and go look up

1260
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: his episode about Lou What the Death Wind? The Death

1261
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: Wind Long Hunter Sociopathic Murder Ancestry dot Com. After this

1262
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: and Lou Wetzel he for he was you know, he

1263
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: was from the borderland, so the you know Ohio River

1264
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: between West Virginia and the Ohio territories and stuff, and

1265
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: then wound up down in Louisiana to wind up down

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01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: in jail down there. Um, hey, we might be yeah,

1267
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: you might trace him back to the same jail. Uh

1268
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: you shouldn't. You should read up on Lou Wessell. Here's

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: my other question. But but listen to listen to Clay's

1270
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: episode about Lee Wetsel, and I'll point out, Uh, I

1271
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: had to lean on him very heavily because here's the thing.

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: Do you do you know LeWitt, No, No, he was

1273
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: alive in the Hunters. He he was. Lou Wetzel existed

1274
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: in that he existed in that time, um, around the

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01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: American Revolution, in the in the Indian Wars. So we

1276
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: one day had a historian on and the historian specializes

1277
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: in the long hunters like Daniel Boone and other guys

1278
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: that hunted commercial hunters, the hunted the the the Kentucky

1279
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: Tennessee area. Um. He mentioned how back then there were

1280
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: some real bad such as like some bad people such

1281
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: as Lou Wetzel and Sam Brady. And I said, I

1282
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: never heard of Lou Wetzel. Then my body Tommy Edson,

1283
01:12:54,600 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: the blue collar scholar, chastises me over text meith stage

1284
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: of how could I not know about the Death Wind?

1285
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: So I did some research. Then I strongly suggested to

1286
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: Clay that he do an episode about the Death Wind,

1287
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: The Death Wind Episode sixty. I'm gonna hit you up

1288
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna be leave this ship. Actually, here's

1289
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: my next question for you. Make a note to yourself.

1290
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: There's actually a whole the Wetsel Boys, whole bunch of them.

1291
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: Uh sound like, so if you came up so in

1292
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: your business, you come up very grassroots, like, very elbow

1293
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: grease right like like outsiders. Um, what were like? What

1294
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: does does Nashville like not need to exist for you?

1295
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, is Nashville a thing or is it not

1296
01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: even a force for you to reckon with? I mean

1297
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: at this point, no, not really just just because like

1298
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: and nothing against Nashville. It's just we're we've kind of

1299
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: made it a point to just kind of do whatever

1300
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: we want to do and be authentic and in ourselves

1301
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: and and you can do that in Nashville. But um,

1302
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: going back, I want to said earlier, like everything that

1303
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: we have is because the fans and the way that

1304
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: they have you know, blown us up, you know. So, um,

1305
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: we don't need Nashville and they don't need us, you

1306
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: know necessarily. So um, you know it's just uh, I

1307
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's we kind of do whatever we

1308
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: want to and that's kind of how we've always wanted

1309
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: wanted it to be. And uh and not saying that

1310
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: Nashville won't want to allow you to do that, but um,

1311
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: I'm starting a new country project. Uh in January we'll

1312
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: start working on and uh, I'll probably hitting up Nashville like, hey,

1313
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: please let me know. Um what what door do I

1314
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: knock on? Yeah? No, I love Nashvi. So man, we

1315
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: go there. We go there probably five six times a year,

1316
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: and I got a lot of friends up there. But

1317
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: and you'll pull you'll pull a good audience there. Yeah, yeah,

1318
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: we pull you know, we pull really good audiences in Nashville.

1319
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I don't know. It's it's just a

1320
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: it's a different world, man, you know, Like it's a

1321
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: songwriter world, you know, And um, I don't know, it's

1322
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: hard for me to write with other people like so

1323
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: I have to It is yeah, like, uh, I don't

1324
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: know if I can't if I'm not feeling what another

1325
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: person is, you know, like or if they're not feeling

1326
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: the same way I am. And it's just it's kind

1327
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: of pointless. Like do you ever bring your stuff too?

1328
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: If you get stuck on something, do you have people

1329
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: you bring it to? You just work it out? Yeah? Like, well,

1330
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: like I'll write like a half a song and then

1331
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: you know, say that and then come back to another

1332
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: song and either combine them or you know, to where

1333
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Or I'll hit up a buddy and

1334
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: be like, you know, see if you can help me

1335
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: out with this. But uh, yeah, sitting down and co

1336
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: writing now, I've I've I've done it twice, I think,

1337
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: And uh it's not that I don't like it, it's

1338
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: just it's just really hard for me to do so.

1339
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: Um but yeah, what what what would be the closest

1340
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: thing to a normal way that you'd work from from

1341
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: a writing perspective? Um, Usually I start off with melodies, honestly, Like,

1342
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: I'll have a melody in my head and then I mean,

1343
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 1: I never saw in my life, but I don't picture

1344
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: it that way. Yeah, Kurt Cobain and he was like,

1345
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: melody first, layer, second and so, um, how I do it?

1346
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: I do it like uh Chester, then I go jukebox hero,

1347
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: then lady may no, I'll go melody man and then uh,

1348
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: usually I don't know. Is this annoying for me to ask?

1349
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: How like the melodies in your head? No? Like how

1350
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: does it occur? Like not how does it decurdy? But

1351
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: how is it? What is it sound in your head?

1352
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: Are you here to performed? Are you just hearing it?

1353
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: Like your hommy? It? Like? What the hell is it?

1354
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: It's either I mean, it's just like I'll whistle a lot,

1355
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: like I'll just be like, I'll yeah, I'll be whistling

1356
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: a Lot's somebody like what is that? I was like,

1357
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. If they're like, it's not bad, and

1358
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: then I'll just go to a guitar and try to

1359
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: play it and seriously yeah, honestly yeah, and uh and

1360
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: then after or I mean, I mean, sometimes I'll just

1361
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: I have a thought in my head or I have

1362
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: a line, I'll write it down, I'll come back to it,

1363
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: and then sometimes I'll write this song before I put

1364
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: the mild to it. Man, it's just kind of what

1365
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: but you know what it is, and he's got to

1366
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: figure out where it's gonna for sure. Also, whenever I'm

1367
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: whenever I sit down and try to write, hardly anything

1368
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: ever comes out, you know, but like I'll just be

1369
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: drinking a cocktail or something and I'm like, man, that's

1370
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: really good, try and put that down. Or I'm just

1371
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: making a note on my phone and then come back

1372
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: to it and you know, have it, have it wrote down? Yeah,

1373
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: but some of my best in your phone look like, oh,

1374
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to know. It'd be like a couple

1375
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: of words. Yeah, it'll be like just a line or

1376
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: out all of a song or you know, I don't know.

1377
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: Like it's cold as ship outside is snow and I'm

1378
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: here with Steve Ronillo. You know I can. I've seen

1379
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: time blowing sounds. We'll be talking. This could be four

1380
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: in the morning, drunk or or on a road trip

1381
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: or something. Or it could be two pm sober, watching

1382
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: TV and somebody will say something and co would just

1383
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: walk off without and you see him like something bad happened,

1384
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Like who is that? Now?

1385
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: I to write something in my phone and I know

1386
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. It's already even asked, Yeah, and

1387
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: I go to the back of the room of the

1388
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: guitar and shut the door. You don't y'all see me

1389
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: for like an hour. I'll come back and like we'll

1390
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: here times. Yeah, but uh yeah, man, that's fun. I like,

1391
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: I like putting together stuff like that, and being in

1392
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: the studio helps outtle up. And we recorded our last

1393
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: record and hell Pass and and that's you know, it's funny.

1394
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: My next question is why why is it hell Pass? So?

1395
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: The studio it's called Sonic Ranch. It's into r Neo.

1396
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: It's about forty five minutes outside of El pez So.

1397
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: But it's on a thirteen thirteen thousand acres. It's up

1398
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: a complant like a pocon farm. You hunt it while

1399
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: you're there, No, I want to do. There's so many

1400
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: dove and damn squirrels. I'm getting in pretty good with

1401
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: the owner, so I mean maybe maybe next year. But no,

1402
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: it's like it's a mile from the border. Like the

1403
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: wall like runs right next to the studio. So once

1404
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: you're out there, I think there's a family dollar and

1405
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: a liquor store and a family dollar there. So once

1406
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: you get out there, yea liquor but it's like it's

1407
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: it's honestly like a resort studio, but it's in the

1408
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: Millino where there's no distractions. Like you wake up, they

1409
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: feed you breakfast, lunch, dinner, get out there. Man. It's

1410
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: just like and it's for this purpose. It's yeah, it's

1411
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: a it's for songwriting. I mean there's there's eight studios there.

1412
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: Every they've got lodging everything. Manu. It's so once you

1413
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: get out there, you're out there. I mean, wake up,

1414
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: e breakfast, record, eight, dinner, go to bed. It's like

1415
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: the only Budgie thing about it is all the gear.

1416
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's not yeah, and it's nothing. It's

1417
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 1: not like super fancy or anything like. It's it's beautiful place.

1418
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: It's it's awesome. But but you guys get a mighty

1419
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: thirst at night, you'd like to go out to bars?

1420
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: What do you do with Yeah, well that's what I'm saying,

1421
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: Like we'll just sit there and uh, we'll drink a

1422
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: couple bottles of wine and and don't get me wrong,

1423
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: on the weekends, will pump into hell pass. I found

1424
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: myself like probably two yards from where the war is.

1425
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: That's the next time I went with one of the

1426
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: engineers from the place, and I was he was like, man,

1427
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: I got these girls in town. Let's go. And I

1428
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: was like, all right, let's screw let's go. So we

1429
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 1: get there and I'm like, where the funk are we at? Bro,

1430
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: And he was like, war is right there. I'm like

1431
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: like right there. He's like yeah. I was like, let's

1432
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. What are we doing? Man? Like,

1433
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: no way, I'm being the morning news man. Give me

1434
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: out of here. But uh no, it's it's it's right man.

1435
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: And we're going back in January. We'll be there for

1436
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: probably there for two months, uh, to do another album. Yeah,

1437
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm starting that country project. But I wanna

1438
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: I just want to get out there and, right man,

1439
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 1: get away from everything and you know, dry up and

1440
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: just kind of get get reset. And uh we've been

1441
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: on We've been on tour for damn near all year.

1442
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: So the guys will get two or three months off

1443
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: and I'll get some time just to be alone, get

1444
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: out there and write and record again. So dry up,

1445
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: like dry up on like just clean clean, yeah, just uh,

1446
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: you know he's up a little bit. What's the country project?

1447
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: Um Man, it's just I've I've always wanted to, like

1448
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: I've people consider me a country artist, but our music's

1449
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: more rock. I feel like, yeah, yeah, we thrown in

1450
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: that genre, but I mean it's where it's rock music,

1451
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: mad alternative. Me and me and Seth roam at earlier,

1452
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: me and him listening to hell Pass so continuous loop

1453
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: for six hours, driving driving from driving, from Ketchum from

1454
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: catching the Bowsman nice and we got the balls and

1455
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not a country record. Yeah, And then that,

1456
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: then that then I got to look at how it's

1457
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: like I'm not the first guy who observe this. Oh

1458
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: people get so pissed or like this is a country

1459
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: music what's wrong with him? I'm like, oh, this new album,

1460
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: but uh no, so like yeah, I'm I'm gonna put

1461
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: out my first actual record country record, you know, like,

1462
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: um oh, but what's go do you mean? What do

1463
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 1: you mean? Tell me what you mean here? Like some

1464
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: like some some fiddle, some skin guitar, you know, going

1465
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 1: you're in a stick with your but you're tell me

1466
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna stick with your normal subject and that that

1467
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: that's a deal. That's like the plan, Like that's why

1468
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm spending so much time out there because my goal

1469
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: is to write two records. I want to write a

1470
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: country record, and then that's the I might get out

1471
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: there and can't route a country record and then go

1472
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: back on the music that we had been creating for

1473
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 1: the last you know, ten years. But lyrically, here's what,

1474
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 1: here's what I need to tell me. Lyrically, it'll stay constant.

1475
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it'll just it's gonna be raw and really

1476
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: like what's gonna be like, yeah, you're not saying something yeah, no, no, no,

1477
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna no, no, shot I'm I like talking

1478
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: about like feelings and uh like real world ship, you know,

1479
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: like it's and not people not distant people that talk

1480
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: about you know, going down the back road drinking a

1481
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: cod beer and with my grandpa shot gun rack and

1482
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: all this. Like, No, it's not gonna be that kind

1483
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: of country. It's gonna be like like an old like

1484
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: old school you know, just chicken shit. I mean real chicken,

1485
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: real honestly real chicken ship stuff. But no, just just

1486
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: honest true ship, you know. Uh not I'm not sure

1487
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: every day you man, let's put on cambo and drinks

1488
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: coal whiskey, you know what I mean, but you don't

1489
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: mind doing that. I don't fucking saying I don't get

1490
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: me wrong, I will do it. I'm gonna send you,

1491
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you the record, and you're gonna be

1492
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: like you line, son of a bit. I'm you think

1493
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for you go that route? Uh,

1494
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honestly, man, I've I've, like I said,

1495
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: I grew up around it. I've always been around it.

1496
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: I still love country music. Um So, I don't think so.

1497
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: I think more or less just just because we have

1498
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: been making this sound for so long of kind of

1499
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: kind of country rock. I think that'll be kind of

1500
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: the harder part of getting back into like the melodic,

1501
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: like the melody part of it. Um, but that's it.

1502
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: Like like I said, I might get out there and

1503
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: may and it might not happen. But um and if

1504
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 1: that does, I apologize for I've been waiting on a

1505
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: cuntry record. You know my favorite parts ball Hell passed.

1506
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: So was the interludes where you dressed the audience. Yeah,

1507
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 1: that's good ship. Did anybody try to talk you out

1508
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: of that? No, that's that's uh. We were we were

1509
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: in there and we were whenever we're in the studio,

1510
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: we we drink pretty heavily and uh and you got

1511
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 1: you were a little flamy that day. Oh dude, you

1512
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: have no dude, but uh yeah, especially during vocal day,

1513
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm drinking a lot of whiskey. Um. But we were

1514
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: so Kimball likes to keep the microphone on just in case,

1515
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, just to catch you know, stuff that like damn,

1516
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: I wish would have caught that. So, uh, that was

1517
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: kind of one of the deals. We were just talking

1518
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's a microphone on it. He

1519
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: was like yeah, and I've had that going on in

1520
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: my head for a while, Like now that I've got

1521
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: cells attention, I forgot what it was I was gonna say.

1522
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: And I've honestly forgot what I was going to say

1523
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: at that point. So he was like, I really like that.

1524
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: Let's put that on the beginning of that the record. Yeah,

1525
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 1: it's nice. Get you're getting like addressed by the musician,

1526
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: but you're listening to the album for sure. Uh, okay,

1527
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: we are you willing to play us a tune? Yeah,

1528
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: I'll play you really eight kind of half to you. Actually,

1529
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: how's it gonna go down? Um? I don't know what

1530
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: you don't want? You play guitar? The yeah, I think

1531
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: it's tuned. Uh, step down so I can read and

1532
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: there's capo. Okay. Before before you leave, I have to ask,

1533
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: did you ever find someone a damn it? Uh? No,

1534
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 1: I spent like three days in jail. Probably he was

1535
01:26:48,800 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: a sound like ships because the Cowboys lost one day

1536
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: and uh we had two good of a time at

1537
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: the Cats pop the Cats party story. What's the Max

1538
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: playing there? Do you guys lose some money in poker?

1539
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I'll play one off of the new record

1540
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: Yellow Bull Shrug I do with my phone, sat on long.

1541
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: It's talk anybody these days. Let should probably go home.

1542
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,959
Speaker 1: Let's see my friends. I ain't seen the poet treats

1543
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: the slash crib Smiths and I'll be down to if

1544
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: the sun rang on, I wanna go home. I'm seeking

1545
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: home and tell me you why I'm feeling this a

1546
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: way hometown, he wrote without the Cake, just to poor

1547
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: motherfucker that grew up on Gellibut show. When my grandpads

1548
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: still look at me the same, and I feel bad

1549
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: when I tell them, Mama kay, get the people in

1550
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: this town say I'm too far gone. Well, I'm du

1551
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: to them most and worst than others. Eyes say, and

1552
01:28:51,920 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm way to bless the pitch today. Yeah, sick, tired

1553
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: of trying to clear my head never works, so I

1554
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: just strain canst it and keep telling myself that it helps,

1555
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: but it really don't. Everything I've ever won't here. It's

1556
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: in the palm of my hand. But the trash treasure.

1557
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,440
Speaker 1: Then I'll be a blist to give it to another

1558
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: man that I can tell me you are I'm feeling

1559
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: this away hometown. He rode without the cake just to

1560
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:54,560
Speaker 1: pull motherfucker that grew up on Getabu and stroll. I

1561
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 1: talked to my parents with nothing to say. They told

1562
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: me everyone I was doing okay. They just couldn't believe

1563
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: that I'm singing on the radio. But I'm better than

1564
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 1: most the worst in others eyes say, and I'm way

1565
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: to bless bitch today, So tell me you are I'm

1566
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 1: feeling this away on town Here rode down the kate

1567
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: just to put motherfucker and grew up on yellow boot

1568
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: and show. I talk to my parents or nothing to say.

1569
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: They told me everyone was doing okay. They're saying the

1570
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 1: fact that I'm us and no lady O, I'm did

1571
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: than most and were signing other signs say yeah, I'm

1572
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: dida than most and worse sin othersigne saying and wait

1573
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: to bless. It's a bit too Hi you killer get

1574
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: cats Paul all week All right, man, thanks so much

1575
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: so I really appreciate you guys coming out for sure,

1576
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: co JP Grey thanks a lot, Man, Thank you for

1577
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: having you guys. You guys are great to having the

1578
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: blind about laugh. Everything was great, good stayed appreciate him. Yeah,

1579
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: thank you all for having all. Thanks man, sp