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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 2: Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Street Fire for Monday,

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Speaker 2: November twentieth, thanks Giving Week is here. I thought we'd

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Speaker 2: just get this out of the way early. We will

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Speaker 2: have an abridged production this week. We will do podcasts

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Speaker 2: obviously today, we will do one tomorrow, and then we

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Speaker 2: will have one come out Wednesday, and then we'll take

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Speaker 2: a little hiatus for Thanksgiving. You know, everybody's nobody's gonna

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Speaker 2: be listening to podcasts on Thanksgiving and Black Friday. You'll

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Speaker 2: be just watching the Jets get their butts kicked by

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins on Black Friday. Anyways, So just wanted to

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Speaker 2: get that out of the way early. It was a

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Speaker 2: good week in the contest for me. Three and one

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Speaker 2: pending chiefs. A lot of sweats on the board, and

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Speaker 2: sweats is like the operative word because my son, as

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Speaker 2: I told you, guys just playing Fortnite a lot now,

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Speaker 2: and all these guys like the new way to play

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Speaker 2: is you call each other up and you play Fortnite,

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Speaker 2: and everybody's all sweaty and they're just so oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: that's how I am when I'm watching these NFL games,

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Speaker 2: I mean the forty nine Ers holding off a Baker

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Speaker 2: Mayfield three times to lock up the cover like I

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Speaker 2: was sweating Kyler Murray. I was sweating and he could

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Speaker 2: not deliver the cover. But I do want to start

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Speaker 2: with a team I had no money on this game

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Speaker 2: because I had no idea what the hell was going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with the Chargers, the team out here

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Speaker 2: in LA and Brandon Staley. They go to Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: they put up a good fight. They have multiple opportunities

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Speaker 2: to put this game away, and folks, I can't stress

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Speaker 2: it enough. We're recording this late Sunday night. I believe

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Speaker 2: by the time you wake up and listen to this,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Staley will be fired. I don't see how they

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Speaker 2: can possibly bring him back. He had a little kerfuffle

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Speaker 2: with a report after the game about how he's calling

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Speaker 2: the defensive plays. They keep wanting to ask, like, Brandon, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you're a defensive guy who's calling the defensive plays. You

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Speaker 2: guys gave up nearly four hundred yards to Jordan Love.

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Speaker 2: Jordan freakin' Love seven or fourteen on third down late

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Jordan Love gotta have it, gotta have it,

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Speaker 2: Boom got it, and just a devastating loss for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: They go to Green Bay lose twenty three to twenty.

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Speaker 2: You know, the jabroni's on the internet are gonna blame

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert again. Oh Herbert, another loss. I see the idiots.

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Speaker 2: I don't follow CBS Sports's you know, social media or whatever,

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Speaker 2: and they put out this like nobody has more losses

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Speaker 2: as a quarterback to the start of twenty twenty than

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. I'm like, that doesn't mean anything. Like if

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Speaker 2: you watch that game, and it was televised out here,

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Speaker 2: so I watched it, There's no way on Earth you

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Speaker 2: could say, hey, that game's on Herbert. It's not. It's

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Speaker 2: on the coach. Like they can't stop anybody. Now Listen,

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Speaker 2: they did lose Bosa on the first quarter, cart it

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Speaker 2: off in tears. Doesn't look good. It's just they can't

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Speaker 2: stay healthy. It's one year it's Khalil Mack, the next

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Speaker 2: year's Bosa is Derwin James is everything. It's always something

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Speaker 2: with these guys. And you know, Herbert, every time he

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Speaker 2: dropped back to pass, it's basically like, all right, where's

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen, let's throw into double coverage. Keenan get opened

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Speaker 2: sixteen targets for Keenan Allen, he caught ten of them.

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Speaker 2: And after that it's like Donald Parham, who's almost exclusively

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Speaker 2: a red zone guy, dropped the fourth down play in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the field. And then the rookie Quintin Johnson,

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Speaker 2: who they grabbed in the first rounde out of TCU.

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Speaker 2: I asked somebody who has been around the Chargers and

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Speaker 2: I think I might have used this quote with you guys,

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Speaker 2: So what's the deal with Johnson? A? Why isn't he

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Speaker 2: playing more? This is earlier in the season, and be

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Speaker 2: like is he good? And they're like, oh, it's athletic

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Speaker 2: plays and run the wrong routes and he's not locked

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Speaker 2: in or dialed in. It's like the lights are on?

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Speaker 2: Is anybody home? And I mean that's an indictment of

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Speaker 2: Quintin Johnson, who took who got taken in the first round,

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Speaker 2: Like to lets goo, bro, you how do you do that?

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Speaker 2: And of course Johnson with the game deciding drive on

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Speaker 2: freakish athlete with great speed and drops a beauty from

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Speaker 2: Herbert just dropped it. I don't know why he was

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Speaker 2: alligator arming it. There's no safety coming over it hit him.

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Speaker 2: Just a devastating drop. I mean, listen, Austin Eckler fumbles

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Speaker 2: it's one thing after another with the Chargers, and I

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Speaker 2: think we just move on from Brandon Staley and we say, hey,

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Speaker 2: let's we got Kellen Moore. Let's give Kellen Moore the reins.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what he could do with this offense. Maybe

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs, but we got to give it a shot.

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Speaker 2: With Kellen Moore get offensive, he's gonna be obviously cheaper

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Speaker 2: than say Jim Harbaugh, which you know Jim Harbaugh's got

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Speaker 2: his own problems. Well, it sounds like he's going to

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Speaker 2: the NFL, but we know Spanos historically has been cheap.

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Speaker 2: My guess is Staley gets fired today, I would do it.

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore gets the keys, and you know Palmer comes

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Speaker 2: off the ir soon. He's clearly their number two receiver

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Speaker 2: there isn't even a number two right now. I mean

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Speaker 2: they threw it. They threw a bomb to some guy

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Speaker 2: I'm like, who is this guy? Nobody has him in

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Speaker 2: fantasy and it is a good week in fantasy, by

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Speaker 2: the way. But I just feel bad for Herbert man

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Speaker 2: because he's the one who ends up catching all these

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Speaker 2: strays when because the Dolphins are winning, Herbert obviously dominated

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Speaker 2: the conversation. Last year. Herbert's had a great season, but

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Speaker 2: they lose back to back games excruciating fashion. They've now

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Speaker 2: lost three four games by three points and one by two.

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Speaker 2: It's like, when is Herbert gonna win a close game?

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Speaker 2: It's not on him? Like every single time, it's like

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Speaker 2: the defense cannot get stops and then the counter is

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Speaker 2: well Jay, Herbert had the ball against Miami, got sacked. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he got sacked, so what justin Herbert sucks because he

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Speaker 2: took a sack at the end of the game, and

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Speaker 2: against Green Bay it took a sack late. Like it's

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Speaker 2: just if you followed the Chargers closely. This team is

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Speaker 2: not very good right now, and I know it's not great.

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Speaker 2: A good idea to fire a coach heading into Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: week not a great look. And then you've got Baltimore

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Speaker 2: at so far here next weekend, huge game Sunday Night football, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you want to trout Trotz Daley out there.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't think so. And then the after

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Speaker 2: after the Baltimore game, like New England Denver Raiders, Denver.

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Speaker 2: That's four, that's four potential wins. I mean, nothing's a

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Speaker 2: layup for the Chargers right now. There's a chance they

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Speaker 2: sneak in case he could rest guys in the final

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Speaker 2: But there's a world where the Chargers can pull this off.

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Speaker 2: So I hate opening the pod like firing a guy,

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Speaker 2: but I just can't look at Staley anymore. He just

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Speaker 2: such a disaster. Defensively, you can't call yourself a defensive

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Speaker 2: down the field. Rob, I know you're not the biggest

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm admittedly not the biggest Herbert guy. But even

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Speaker 1: I can admit that Brandon Staly is the problem and

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Speaker 1: he has been the problem, and it's one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons why before the season in an NFL preview, I said,

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Speaker 1: I am not going to pick the Chargers to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs because Brandon Staley alone is worth three losses.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna find a way to inexplicably blow games. And

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Speaker 1: first the micro, then the macro. You mentioned. Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: had a career day. He became the first Packers quarterback

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Speaker 1: since December of twenty twenty one to throw for over

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Speaker 1: three hundred yards in a game. It had at the

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Speaker 1: it had been the longest active drought in the NFL

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Speaker 1: until Sunday's game. Right, So that's the small that's a

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Speaker 1: small picture. It means you made a mediocre passing offense

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Speaker 1: taken over for the Chargers, they have allowed the third

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Speaker 1: most points per game in the NFL. All right, since

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. The Chargers lead the NFL in plays

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Speaker 1: given up of at least twenty five yards, by far,

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Speaker 1: most in the league. Entering Sunday's games. I wish we

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Speaker 1: NFL offense had put up at least fourhundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: five yards fourteen times than the twenty twenty three NFL season.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers defense is responsible for four of those. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, so what is that? Like? Thirty five percent

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Speaker 1: of the worst defensive performances in the NFL this season

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Speaker 1: defensive coach. It's the inverse of the Josh McDaniels situation

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Speaker 1: Staley is supposed to be a defensive coach. His defense sucks,

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Speaker 1: he should be fired. He should have been fired last

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Speaker 1: even before that, when he inexplictedly goes for it on

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Speaker 1: Several I can even pick up one time he did

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Speaker 1: done it like multiple times. Like there should be multiple

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Speaker 1: fire up offenses. You have Khalil Mack last week. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if we touched on this. Last week,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, well, everything we prepared for they did

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Speaker 1: the opposite of that. Like, and Khalil Mack doesn't say anything.

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Speaker 1: And if he's saying things that tell you that this

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Speaker 1: coach isn't over his head, I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: make of it, Like he's got to go selfishly as

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Speaker 1: a Raider fan, I hope he stays because I'd like

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Speaker 1: But he is the worst. He's such a terrible.

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Speaker 2: Coming and it's not again. Thanksgiving week is a tough

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Speaker 2: time to get guys out of town. I'm gonna piggyback

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Speaker 2: Staley and I'm gonna say, if you were to ask me, Jason,

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Speaker 2: what are the three most brutal losses all season? Like

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Speaker 2: for a team, they were just brutal. Obviously Dallas at

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Speaker 2: Arizona Week two. That was that was a brutal loss

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Speaker 2: for the Cowboy. That was just absolutely devastating. I think

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Speaker 2: eclipsing that is the New York Giants and Tommy DeVito

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Speaker 2: thirty one, Ron Rivera in the Washington Commanders nineteen. Washington

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Speaker 2: closed a nine point dog. I saw that, Remember this

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Speaker 2: and then it went back up on game data like

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Speaker 2: people are calling DeVito the worst quarterback in the league,

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Speaker 2: or some were saying, this is the worst quarterback we've

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Speaker 2: seen in years, like he was unplayable. Davito had three

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Speaker 2: touchdown passes. Now they did Zack. This is hilarious. Washington

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Speaker 2: if I've ever seen a quarterback at sacked nine times

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Speaker 2: but still throw three touchdowns. Divito looked poised, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Look as far as Washington. Yeah, I totally agree. I

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Speaker 1: and that's what I mean. Ron Rivera, yes, deserves to

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Speaker 2: love to hear about this. So in you know you

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Speaker 2: a year where Mahomes has been good but not totally

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Speaker 2: distinguished himself. You know, dak hat doesn't have enough big

424
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Speaker 2: wins when it comes to MVP. Guys, it's almost certainly

425
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Speaker 2: for the last decade the quarterback from the number the

426
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Speaker 2: one or the number two seed Detroit by pulling one

427
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Speaker 2: out against Chicago, it could be the number one seed,

428
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Speaker 2: or it's gonna be San Francisco. I the Eagle schedules

429
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: too tough. I don't think it will be the Eagles.

430
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Speaker 2: And in the AFC, like, I don't know, it ain't

431
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: gonna be Trevor Lawrence, that's for sure. You're looking at

432
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Speaker 2: basically Kansas City and Mahomes, and I don't think Mahomes

433
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: has been incredible. I wonder if Perdy's gonna get in

434
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Speaker 2: the discussion. It's listen. I know you're not as big

435
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Speaker 2: of a fan of Party. I'm just telling the guy

436
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: makes place like you could we could say moxie or

437
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: grit or whatever any of these nerdy words are to describe, like,

438
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: you know, average white guys who he's like, what six'

439
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: one two ten, like, it's like a normal guy. You

440
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: bump into him at Starbucks and you're like, you're an

441
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback who's leading the league in EPA, that's you, Like,

442
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: you'd be stunned. And he just delivers every game. And

443
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: I know he has a weapons and the coach, but Rob,

444
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, man, this guy Perty's making some throws.

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Speaker 1: Dude, absolutely. And I'm a little bit offended that you

446
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: say I'm not a pretty guy, because if you recall

447
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: on this podcast a few weeks ago, before the slump,

448
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: I said this was gonna be his Joe Burrow season.

449
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 2: That's fair.

450
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Speaker 1: Remember Joe Burrow took the Bengals to the Super Bowl

451
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Speaker 1: in the year two, and everyone's like, Okay, yes he

452
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Speaker 1: is an elite quarterback and there's nothing we can say

453
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Speaker 1: anymore about the injuries or what have you. And this

454
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Speaker 1: guy is just regarded now as a top five to

455
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Speaker 1: seven quarterback minimum. And then that's where the conversation starts

456
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Speaker 1: to get interesting. Brock Perty yesterday had a perfect passer

457
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Speaker 1: rating one fifty eight point three and had twenty one

458
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Speaker 1: to twenty five three thirty three, three touchdowns and no picks.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 1: What's funny about that? Ismber Well number one. Between this

461
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Speaker 1: past Sunday and last Sunday, he has a passer rating

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Speaker 1: combined of one fifty seven point three, the highest by

463
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Speaker 1: any NFL quarterback over a two start span since that

464
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Speaker 1: stat has been charted in nineteen fifty whoa so, Patrick

465
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Speaker 1: Mahomes didn't do it, Peyton Manny didn't do it. Aaron

466
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Speaker 1: Rodgers didn't do it, Tom Brady didn't do it, Joe

467
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: Montana didn't do it. Dann Marino didn't do it. Brock

468
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Speaker 1: mother fin Perty is the guy with the highest passer

469
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Speaker 1: rating over two games. But you know some people are like, well,

470
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Speaker 1: passer rating is a flawed stat. It doesn't really take

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Speaker 1: into account situation. And yah, yeah, you know right. They

472
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Speaker 1: say QBR is the one that you look at nowadays, right,

473
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Speaker 1: the ESPN one because they talk about game score and

474
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Speaker 1: game scripts and how difficult a throw it was. YadA, ya, YadA.

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Speaker 1: He had a perfec passer rating yesterday and based on QBR,

476
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Speaker 1: it was his fourth best game of the season. Like

477
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Speaker 1: Brock Purdy, I know that because he's not, like you mentioned.

478
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Speaker 1: He looks like an unassuming guy. He doesn't have a

479
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Speaker 1: laser rocket arm like Josh Allen. He's not throwing statuesque

480
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Speaker 1: mono rails like Justin Herbert. He doesn't have the improvational

481
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Speaker 1: skills of ad Jalen Hurts or Lamar or Patrick Mahomes.

482
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Speaker 1: But he just plays the quarterback position at an extremely

483
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Speaker 1: high level. That throw on the deep touchdown pass to

484
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk was as good as any throw that was

485
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Speaker 1: made on Sunday. Yeah, and because of, in my opinion,

486
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Speaker 1: where he was drafted, because he's mister Irrelevant, everybody's gonna

487
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Speaker 1: go into it saying, oh, well, it's the coach, it's

488
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Speaker 1: the weapons, it's this, it's that they don't want to

489
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Speaker 1: admit that dude, he's just a good quarterback. I don't

490
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Speaker 1: know if he's elite, like you know, in that category

491
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Speaker 1: of the top four or five. I wouldn't say that

492
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Speaker 1: right now, but he's just a good quarterback. And as

493
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Speaker 1: sooner that we can admit that what we're seeing is

494
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Speaker 1: not a mirage that he is making plays outside of

495
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: just the system or the weapons around him, I think

496
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Speaker 1: the better offer will be in and I think that

497
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Speaker 1: to your point, he's got a very very good shot

498
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Speaker 1: to win MVP. Yeah, because they're gonna be in the

499
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Speaker 1: top two and he's gonna have great numbers.

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Speaker 2: Just listening to you and explain it, I had this thought,

501
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Speaker 2: probably too hot of a take for Monday morning. You know,

502
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Speaker 2: there's another quarterback of some renown who was drafted late

503
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Speaker 2: and early in his career. All he did was kind

504
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: of win big games and look good. Well, it's the

505
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Speaker 2: system and they have this really legendary coach, or he

506
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Speaker 2: wasn't legend at the time, and his name is Tom Brady.

507
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Speaker 2: And I'm not comparing brock Perty to Tom Brady. I'm

508
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Speaker 2: saying if you think back and look back at early

509
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: Brady stats, you see low sixties completion percentage. I know

510
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: it was a different era two decades ago. You see

511
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Speaker 2: not a ton of mistakes. Remember he was a game

512
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: manager for the longest time. Drew Bledsoe was the guy

513
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: with the cannon arm that he replaced. And I was like, Okay,

514
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: this guy's a good game manager, and that's what he was.

515
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't rob and correct me if I'm wrong here

516
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: until Brady got Moss. He didn't make the jump to

517
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: light speed the here he got Moss, completion of percentage

518
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: sixty eight. They undefeated in the regular season, forty eight

519
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: hundred yards passing like the year before he was thirty

520
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: five one hundred yards, fifty touchdowns. And then it was like,

521
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Tom Brady's the guy. But he had

522
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Speaker 2: to fight for respect the first six years, like six

523
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: years of being like, hey, all he does is win.

524
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Speaker 2: He goes to some Super Bowls. Well, he finished top

525
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Speaker 2: three in the MVP. He didn't get his first MVP

526
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Speaker 2: until Brady. And I feel like my thing is, Perdy's

527
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: not gonna get the respect that we're giving him from

528
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Speaker 2: the unwashed masses until he does it on a big stage.

529
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Speaker 2: I need to see Brady, I'm sorry, I need to

530
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Speaker 2: see Perdy pull aup Brady and go the length of

531
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Speaker 2: the field in Detroit in the second round of the playoffs.

532
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Speaker 2: Then I need to see him beat the Eagles at

533
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: the Link. I need to see big game spots from

534
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: brock Perty And I guess that's that's reasonable. But you

535
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: know what, you won't buy stock until he's already proven.

536
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: We've already got the stock, right. We like finding finding

537
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: those diamonds in the rough, and I think that's what

538
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: he is. I mean, it's pretty crazy, like he's just

539
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: he's nails. I mean, I know he has Kittle and

540
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: Ayuk and Deebo and like they got weapons galore. But again,

541
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Speaker 2: you can't tell me that there's ten quarterbacks out there.

542
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Speaker 2: You're taking over Perty.

543
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: I know, And there's a lot of guys who got weapons.

544
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Speaker 1: Like up until this Sunday. This week was Trevor Lawrence

545
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: having a good season. He's still not dude, no, but

546
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: he had a great game on Sunday. But it's like, yeah,

547
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: he's got Doug Peterson, a Super Bowl champion coach. He's

548
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: got Travis Dz and he's got Calvin rid Ridist, he's

549
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: got a Christian Kirk. Like he's got weapons too. Almost

550
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: every great quarterback in the NFL right now has great

551
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: weapons outside of what probably Mahomes, but he has arguably

552
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: the greatest tight end ever. So everybody's got weapons. It's

553
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: just that people, It's just is this game not sexy

554
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: enough for you? Is that what it is? Is brock Purdy

555
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: just not making the highlight real throws that you're like, yeah,

556
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: that's why you're never gonna give them the respect he

557
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: deserves because outside of these games where he was concussed.

558
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: Remember he got concussed what was it in the Minnesota

559
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: game and he threw those two interceptions. Like you're looking

560
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: at on the season, eighteen touchdowns, five picks, take away

561
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: those two concussed interceptions, He's at eighteen and three. Like,

562
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: what can you say then? I just I don't understand

563
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: the hate towards brock perty I don't get it.

564
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Speaker 2: Just I don't know it. Just you're right, it feels

565
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: a little weird. I got to give some more props

566
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Speaker 2: to C. J. Stroud, who I got. I gotta be

567
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: finished gambling against Houston. I I first inclination. By the way,

568
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: Jaggs Texans might be the game of the week this week.

569
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't know it's certainly up there. It's for first

570
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: place in the division. Something I never thought i'd say

571
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: about Houston. Their defense is still quite bad. But Stroud

572
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: and if you don't have Tank Dell in Fantasy Boy,

573
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: did you miss the boat? I mean, Tank Dell is

574
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: so fast, gets everything. I don't know this Houston team, man,

575
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: I think it's probably just one year. But their offensive

576
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: coordinator is dialing up some stuff. See nobody throws the

577
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: ball down the field more than CJ. Stroud every game.

578
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: They're just complete and chunk plays galore. And even though

579
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: he had a couple of big mistakes in the red

580
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: zone to keep Arizona in it, rob let's be real. Like,

581
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm watching Stroud and it's like you have confidence third

582
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: and eight, Like it's not a sweat. Like Zach Wilson

583
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: drops back on third and eight, You're like, don't turn

584
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Speaker 2: the friggin ball over. You know, half together quarterbacks in

585
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Speaker 2: the league. You're like, ooh, I don't know. I don't know.

586
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: Jordan Love spotty third and eight.

587
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Speaker 1: CJ.

588
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: Stroud drops back. It's like, oh, we're good, we got this.

589
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: And it's not like he has a star receiver. I

590
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: look look at their numbers four hundred, nineteen yards, twenty

591
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: two first downs, nine of thirteen on third down again

592
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: one for four the red zones where they screwed up

593
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: and Stroud through three interceptions. He had a funny quote

594
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: after the game about how, hey, when Steph Curry misses

595
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: a couple threes, he doesn't stop shooting. CJ dial it back, buddy,

596
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: You're not quite in the Curry stratosphere yet, but yeah,

597
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm watching that game and it's just killing me that

598
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: they just keep moving the I mean, their offense is

599
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: kind of sort of unstoppable, and the kids Slowick who

600
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: came over from San fran it's probably too early for

601
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: him to get looks as a head coach, but I'm

602
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: sure after this year he will. And I'll say this, Rob,

603
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: if you want to get real spicy and start thinking

604
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: about and there's some teams already thinking about next year,

605
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: I'll put this out there. Buffalo Bills, let's just say

606
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: they missed the playoffs, are losing the first round. Okay,

607
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: the Josh Allen contract starts to go up. Gotta start

608
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: making some moves. Do you consider maybe let's move off

609
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: of Stefan Diggs. He's a bit of a headache. He's

610
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: brothers putting out the stuff, remember the stuff at camp,

611
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: Like listen, Digs is amazing, but the kids shakur at

612
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: A has been has been a revelation, like we could

613
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: find receivers. Is there a world where the Texans say, hey,

614
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: we got a quarterback on a rookie you wee can spend.

615
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: We like tanke Dell, we like Nico Collins, we like

616
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Noah Brown. Let's go annie up and grab us Digs.

617
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 2: The move is go get skill position players. The thing

618
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: is Houston's turning like not renowned guys into like household names.

619
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz is having a great year. The defense is

620
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: where they need to spend most of their money. But man,

621
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: this team is gonna have a like when you're this

622
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: good and year one with the rookie, the sky's the limit,

623
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: Like you've got to go all in, like the Bengals

624
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: with Burrow, the Jags to an extent with Lawrence, like

625
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: the window closes quick and who knows if you know

626
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: Shad will be a major franchise quarterback. Looks like it

627
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: this year but ten games. But like you could go

628
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: through the list of any of them. The big name

629
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: wide receivers, and I think Houston's gonna be big game hunting.

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00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: Even Trevor Lawrence gets Calvin Ridley from the Falcons, It's like, wow,

631
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Speaker 2: that's huge. Now, Lawrence hasn't been amazing, as you articulated,

632
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Speaker 2: but this is one of those like, holy cow, we've

633
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Speaker 2: got something. Let's go all in and rob that division.

634
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: It's there for the taking. Texans are spicy.

635
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what's funny, this was probably the

636
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Speaker 1: worst game of c J. Stroud's rookie season. Yeah, you know,

637
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the three interceptions for most rookie quarterback.

638
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: That's like par for the course, right. You see a

639
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: guy completes a high percentage, two touchdowns, three picks. Yeah,

640
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Speaker 1: that's about what you would expect. That would be like

641
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Speaker 1: a Bryce Young type game. That would be even an

642
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Speaker 1: eight and O'Connell type game, and they would find a

643
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Speaker 1: way to lose that game because that's just what rookie

644
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks go through. CJ. Stroud, however, has the moxie to

645
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: your point, converts on third down at a high percentage

646
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Speaker 1: and is able to hang on for a victory to

647
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Speaker 1: keep pacing that division. You brought up Tank Dell and

648
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: you said, anyone didn't get him in fantasy, you missed

649
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: the boat. I had him in fantasy and I traded him,

650
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Speaker 1: so I don't. I guess you could say I was

651
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Speaker 1: on the boat and then I jumped off of it,

652
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: which probably is even worse than missing. No, it traded

653
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: him as like a throw in in another deal. So yeah,

654
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: it didn't didn't work out for me. But like they are,

655
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Speaker 1: they're coming, and to your point, he's none of the

656
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Speaker 1: guys I think you know, tankdel was a rookie. Obviously,

657
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Speaker 1: I don't know what Nico Collins's salary situation, but it

658
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: can't be high enough where it's gonna behoove you from

659
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: getting a Stefan Diggs for getting in the trade market

660
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: for Davante Adams or pick your favorite signing to Higgins

661
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: out right in free agency, you know, like they can

662
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Speaker 1: be major players and be a major headache in that

663
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: AFC South when we thought coming into the season that

664
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: the Jags were gonna run this show for years to come,

665
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem to be that way at all.

666
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Speaker 2: Man, that game, that's gonna be a good game next week,

667
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: I like, I forgot about DeVante Adams. Yeah, let me

668
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: quickly talk about the Jets go so people don't think

669
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm ducking them. Because Rob was like, oh, we gotta

670
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: talk about Zach Wilson getting benched. And my first thought was, dude,

671
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: it's twenty nine to six in the third, Like, what's

672
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: the point. But it's gonna be a talking point. It's

673
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: the Jets, it's whatever. This is the from the how

674
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: your Sausage gets made media files Sunday morning. The media

675
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: quote unquote insiders like to put out stuff to stir

676
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: the pod get you know, get get a new news

677
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: cycle started. This is how you know something's up. Adam

678
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: Schefter DeVante Adams is gonna be the number one target

679
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: of the New York Jets this coming off season. I

680
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: see the headline. I'm like, bro, it's the freaking middle

681
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: of November. What do you mean it's five months from now?

682
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: The Jets want to target Davante Adams. How is that news? What?

683
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: And then Ian Rappaport almost you know, within the next

684
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, Rogers is targeting Christmas as a return date

685
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Speaker 2: to the NFL if the Jets are still in contention.

686
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: What he hasn't practiced, He hasn't set foot on a

687
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: practice field. He hasn't run. What are we doing? Stop?

688
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: Why is this news coming out? And I had a

689
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: hunch that the Jets are gonna get smoked a bunch

690
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: of people. You know, the Bills took money. It was

691
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Speaker 2: up to nine I think a kickoff, and remember this

692
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: was like seven seven and a half. That's big professional money.

693
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Speaker 2: Moving it through seven and a half through eight up

694
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Speaker 2: to nine nine, it's kind of a dead number. Why

695
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: would this stuff come out the morning of a big

696
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 2: game against the Bills in which they're underdogs. I think

697
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: the Jets' front office is trying to control the median narrative, knowing, man,

698
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: we're in trouble. Bills team's gonna be angry, and Zach

699
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: Wills's name winning in Buffalo and we already beat them.

700
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: They're gonna be pissed. They're coming off a rough patch

701
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: that Monday night loss. We're in trouble. My guess is

702
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: the Jets, said Woody Johnson's gonna be pissed. The media

703
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 2: is gonna hammer us. Let's try to get some misdirection going.

704
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: And I know you guys can laugh at me. This

705
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: is how the shit works. I'm not even making this up.

706
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: You need to control the narrative in the media if

707
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: you want to have a chance, and a lot of

708
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 2: these guys don't do it. Brandon Sale I talked about

709
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: he ain't doing a good job of it at all.

710
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 2: I mean, there's really nothing he can do to LESCo

711
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: might be trying to save his job, like that j C.

712
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: Jackson trade was very quiet, Like, oh, I gave jac

713
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: Jackson ninety million dollars or whatever the number was, and

714
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: they trade him after seven games because it was such

715
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: a train wreck. Or you know, he was injured last year,

716
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: but you trade him after like he played like twelve

717
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 2: games or something minuscule. Like these moves aren't getting highlighted

718
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: because a lot of the gms are trying misdirection with

719
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: the media. Hey, hey, Davonte Adams, Aaron Rodgers coming back?

720
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: We good? We good? Who's ready? Who's fired up? What

721
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: about now? What about the longest playoff drought in the

722
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: freaking league? You know? What about not going after say

723
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs when you could have Why did you go

724
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Speaker 2: after Kirk Cousins. I know he got hurt, but in

725
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: the off season when it was Aaron Rodgers or Lamar

726
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: Jackson and Lamar. Well, it wasn't really Lamar, but Lamar

727
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: was having issues with Baltimore. Why didn't you guys throw

728
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: a hill Mary for freaking Lamar Jackson? Who knows, maybe

729
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: they would have moved on. Oh well, Joe Douglas happened

730
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: to work in Baltimore before. And Joe Douglas is like,

731
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: we don't want, we don't want to get into Lamar business.

732
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Speaker 2: And then there's Woody Johnson who's like a star, you

733
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Speaker 2: know what, and he wants to get totally in bed

734
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Speaker 2: with the Aaron Rodgers just like he did with FARV.

735
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: We know how the FARTH thing worked out. Not great.

736
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 2: It was good for what the nine and three start,

737
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: then it fell apart. And now the Aaron Rodgers thing

738
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: worked for four plays. I'm just telling you this Jets

739
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: malaise is gonna continue. I cannot see Rogers coming back,

740
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: but the idea of him coming back could try to

741
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: save the job of Salah and Douglas. And it's like, okay, well,

742
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: you guys are just basically letting Aaron Rodgers run the

743
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: franchise for what one more year? Like, yeah, I was

744
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: excited after it happened, but let the record show I

745
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: wanted Lamar Jackson, and Rob knows that, and the guys

746
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: who watched the Herd know that. I don't know that

747
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: Lamar could have been had, but I think you've got

748
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: to try, just as the Jets should have tried to

749
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: get a backup quarterback when Rogers went down. You can't

750
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: tell me Tim Boyle is an option. The Jets are

751
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: facing the Dolphins this week. It's in New York. All

752
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: you can hope for is a crappy weather and the

753
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: Dolphins sucking and not being able to just destroy you.

754
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: Because the Dolphins clearly were looking ahead to the Jets

755
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: game when they played with their food for three hours

756
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: with Rob G's Raiders and nearly blew the game. They

757
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: did get the win, they did not get the cover.

758
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: I thought the defense looked shaky. A lot of Dolphins

759
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: fans pushed back. I mean Aidan O'Connell. Rob was making

760
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: throws look like an NFL quarterback. Dudes were open all

761
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: over the field. I didn't think the Dolphense defense was great.

762
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,240
Speaker 2: Miami moved the ball at well, just had mental mistakes, turnovers, randomness.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Rob, I'm just ranting on the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Now, just quickly on the Jets. It's easy to pile

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Speaker 1: on Zach will soon. But I've done that enough. Let

799
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Speaker 1: me just point this out to you when you mentioned

800
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Speaker 1: Woodison being all in bed with Aaron Rodgers and that

801
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: was he kind of sold his soul in that situation.

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00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: And Colin Coward said this lot on his show, And

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00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: if you don't listen to Colin show, that you're missing

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: But Colin has said on this before that when they

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00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: missed on Zach Wilson, it led to a cascade of

807
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: other bad decisions as a way to try to make

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Speaker 1: up for it. Aaron Rodgers being exhibit abcd E and

809
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: f of that, you know situation. Tim Boyle is not

810
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. I don't think he's even a good

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback. You know why he's in New York because

812
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Speaker 1: he's friends with Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 2: Is that real?

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Speaker 1: Okay's He was the backup in Green Bay and so

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Speaker 1: you know he's Nathaniel Hackett has been a bad coordinator

816
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: his entire career. The things that Sean Payton said, even

817
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: though they were aggressive, they were accurate. Why is heeen

818
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: in New York because he's friends with Aaron Rodgers? Alan

819
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Lazark got a big pay day? Gave you zero catches,

820
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: zero yards on one target? Why did he get paid?

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Speaker 1: Why is new York because he's friends Aaron Rodgers, Randall

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Speaker 1: Cobb I don't even think was active on Sunday? Why

823
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Speaker 1: is he in New York even though he's clearly washed?

824
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Speaker 1: Because he's friends with Aaron Rodgers, Dalvin Cook. They gave

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00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: him the big money in the offseason. Two carries thirteen

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Speaker 1: yards has been in the doghouse basically the last month

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Speaker 1: of the season. Why is he there because he's friends

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They're doing all these things to appease Aaron

829
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Speaker 1: Rodgers because they missed on Zach Wilson so badly that

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Speaker 1: they think this is their only way to get back

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Speaker 1: going to be in a much better situation when they,

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Speaker 1: you know, stick with all the rest of the season,

843
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be bad. And the thing is do you

844
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: take quarterback. We'll get into that late going to be

845
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: clearly exactly but that that's gonna be a conversation for

846
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: later on this season, maybe early next year, that we'll

847
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: have that conversation. But it's gonna be something that they

848
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: really need to think about.

849
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: We got to see how high they picked. This is crazy.

850
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: So I didn't even think to look up Tim Boyle.

851
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: I once you said he was at the package, Oh,

852
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 2: let me chasee what he did. I'm not even making

853
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: this up. Rop I just called up Tim Boyle's stats

854
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: in college. So he goes to Yukon. Okay, I'm not

855
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: even this is crazy. Twenty thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen, he's

856
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: not the starter in Yukon. He throws one touchdown and

857
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: thirteen interceptions. I don't even know how that's possible at Yukon.

858
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: So so then you've got him, Oh, let me transfer

859
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: to Eastern Kentucky and maybe I can thrive there. And

860
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: he started at Eastern Kentucky and eleven touchdowns with thirteen interceptions. Yes,

861
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: his college football career, he had touchdowns and twenty six interceptions.

862
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: Twelve touchdown passes in his career and he's in the NFL.

863
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: ROB that's like a month for Killer Williams. Okay, he

864
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: threw twelve touchdown pass his career, and now he's in

865
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: the NFL like I and he's your backup. That was

866
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: your game plan when Rogers went down, instead of going

867
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: out and getting a credible guy to push Zack Wilson.

868
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: Zack's your guy. Why well, if we go out and

869
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: get somebody else, then it makes it look like, you know,

870
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: I don't know that we messed up with Zach. Well,

871
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: no shit, you messed up with Zach, you morons. So

872
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: they're trying to protect now the GM Joe Douglas, who

873
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: knows his heads on the chopping block. Oh, by the way,

874
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: Mackay Beckton, having a good season, goes down injured again.

875
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: Cart it off. I'm afraid to even look rob to

876
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: see what this status update is. But like again, I'm

877
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: not gonna kill Zach Wilson. He's not great quarterback. We

878
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: know that. What I will say is the defensive the

879
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: offensive line has just been a rotating door. I think

880
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: my notes here has They've started fourteen different offensive linemen

881
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: this season. Like some of the the good teams have

882
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: had cohesiveness on the offensive line, you're trying to start

883
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: the same guys every week. They started their seventh different

884
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: offensive line combination against the Bills. Their right guard, somebody

885
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: named Chris Glasser, has not had snaps on the offensive

886
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: line all season before yesterday. Okay, like Wilson didn't have

887
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: a chance, Tim Boyle would not have a chance. You

888
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 2: know whold have had a chance the pastronaut Josh Dobs

889
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: because you could just run around and try to make plays. Anyways,

890
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: let's move on. The only thing better than sitting on

891
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: your couch watching the games. He's making money while you

892
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: do it.

893
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: Here's your best bet.

894
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Monday Night football. Rob we gotta Chiefs Eagles. I don't

895
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: really know where to go other than I took the

896
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: Eagles at I'm sorry, I took the Chiefs. I took

897
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: the Kansasy Chiefs in the contest to two and a half.

898
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna bore you with all the numbers about

899
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes under a field goal. I'm not gonna bore

900
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: you with all the numbers about Andy Reid off of

901
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: a bye twenty one and three in the regular season.

902
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that, and it's it's none of that stuff

903
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: is predictive. What is predictive, I think is that the

904
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs as I said last week here on

905
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: the pod, have been to I think what four super

906
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: bowls rob here in the last like six years there

907
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: they've been just so freaking good. Maybe it's three super Bowls.

908
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: But bottom line, n been a three one two.

909
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: And Patrick Mahomes is like pretty clearly one of the

910
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: elite quarterbacks that the league has ever seen in terms

911
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: of talent wise. And yes he's with Reid, but he

912
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: won with Tyreek and they loft Tyreek left and then

913
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: winning with Kelsey and like, it's not been amazing this year,

914
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: but you know what, this is a team that shows

915
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: up for the big games. And it's tough for you

916
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: to sell me that. Why why isn't Patrick Mahomes smashing

917
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: the Vikings in October? Oh? What the Vikings who were

918
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: at the time, I think winless, Like they know they're

919
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: gonna win that game. It's tough for them to in

920
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: my mind lock in and whether you know that your

921
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: opponent's vastly inferior, Jason, they lost to the Broncos. They

922
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: look terrible. Yeah, the Broncos are in the division. The

923
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: last time I played the Broncos, Denver could barely move

924
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: the football. Of course, they Mahmes get sick. You go

925
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: into inclement weather in Denver, You've got guys fighting for

926
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: their jobs in Denver. I mean, the Chiefs are like,

927
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: do we have like postseason you know, hotel reservations? Like

928
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: do you start thinking like, geez, who do I get

929
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: on the Super Bowl list for my family to go?

930
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: If we get there? Like, the Chiefs are just so

931
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: far ahead of many of their opponents, And as soon

932
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: as the Chargers start falling off, you're like, well, the

933
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: division's ares, you know, I can see them taking their

934
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: foot off the gas, getting swept up in the Taylor

935
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: Swift stuff. I don't see any of that being a

936
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: problem here. This is a rematch of the Super Bowl.

937
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: The Eagles are the cream of the crop in the NFC.

938
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be a phenomenal game. My

939
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: gut tells me. I think both teams are off by

940
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: my gut tells me I would play the under as

941
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: we've seen some teams come off the buye Miami was

942
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: off a bye. They look kind of sluggish at times,

943
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: like not as crisp and buttoned up some mental mistakes

944
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: when it mattered, It did not come close to covering

945
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: against Raiders, which was not great for me. I don't know, Rob,

946
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: I'll go twenty three twenty Kansas City in a close,

947
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: good game. I really like Jalen Hurts, sort of like

948
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: going against him. But I just I really like this

949
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs team and what they're doing. I can't wait to

950
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: see McDuffie against AJ Brown. That's gonna be like appointment

951
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: viewing because McDuffie's playing it's another level right now, and

952
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: AJ Brown's been great. What I don't think McDuffie can

953
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: remove him. But if they take away Brown, what's the

954
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: CounterPunch for Philly? I like the head coach there. There's

955
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: a lot to like about this Philly team. I just

956
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: I do wonder if they're gonna be able to move

957
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: the ball as well as they have against teams are

958
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: more familiar with, for instance, the tight end Goddards out.

959
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: You know, I don't who who's his backup? This kid

960
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: Jack Stole, Like, can you count on him? I don't know, So, Rob,

961
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: I'll go Chiefs twenty three, Eagles twenty.

962
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: I hate to agree with you, like, I think it's

963
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: more fun when we disagree. And before you gave your picks,

964
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: all I had was Chiefs and the under. So the

965
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: last I checked, the under was forty five and a half.

966
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: So yes, I'm right there with you, Chiefs two and

967
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: a half point favorites as of this recording to your point,

968
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: I think Aj Brown is going to be a key

969
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: to this game. If now, personally, what I would do is,

970
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: I'd probably put McDuffie on DeVonta Smith and just try

971
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: to take him out of the game completely and then

972
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: double team or cloud cover Aj Brown. Because the Philadelphia Eagles,

973
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: if you're a fantasy fan, are great because their offense

974
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: is funneled basically through three guys. It's Aj Brown, It's

975
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: the Vanta Smith is Dallas Goddard. Dallas Goddard is hurt.

976
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: If you can find a way to just erase DeVante Smith,

977
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a great chance to beat them, because

978
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't think as good as mcguffe is,

979
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: he can single handedly erase Aj Brown, thinking erase Davante Smith.

980
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Very similar to the to the forty nine ers. A

981
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: lot of their fantasy output is just these the same

982
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: four guys. So if you can do whatever you can

983
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: eliminate one of them, it makes this lot easier for you.

984
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: I know you don't like to bring up to ste

985
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: but I love and to read off a bye, yeah,

986
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: Like that's just one of those go whatever your four

987
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: oh one k is, take about half of it out

988
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: and throw it on the on the on the money line.

989
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: That's what That's one of those situations because he is

990
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: just historically awesome and you read off a bye. So

991
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Give me the Eagles, I'll take the

992
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: two and a half and give me the under.

993
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: All right, should be a good one. We are back tomorrow.

994
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: We will talk to you then