WEBVTT - Going to Bed Early with Diane Kruger

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening? Hello? How are you doing? You're fresh

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<v Speaker 1>as a daisy today, Actually, I know, I feel so fresh.

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<v Speaker 1>Showering is so annoying, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so sick of of it. I know it's necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course I do it, but I don't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't like blowing out my hair. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the act of showering. It's like you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get uncomfortable while you're getting in and you're getting out,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to like do it so you can

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<v Speaker 1>copy worm and also clean. I know. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just basically watching washing my Pikachu, my butt and my

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<v Speaker 1>like under arms, and it doesn't really take that long,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just annoying. No one takes quicker showers than I.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not give a fuck about that. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany Hattish I was once did a show of hers

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, why don't white girls wash their legs?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't know, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't wash my legs and she's like why, She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to wash everything. I go, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just feel like the soap goes down from

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<v Speaker 1>my shampoo and my hair everything falls down. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I've been out in public and used a public restroom,

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<v Speaker 1>I will wash the back of my thighs. However, so

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<v Speaker 1>I washed my butt getting dirty your legs. I washed

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<v Speaker 1>my butt cheeks and my butt hole because my butt

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<v Speaker 1>cheeks because I don't want to get any pimples on

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<v Speaker 1>my butt, you know what I mean. And that's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not disgusting. It happens, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not pleasant. I don't like when I look at

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<v Speaker 1>my butt in the mirror and there's like a little

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<v Speaker 1>red dot. I'm like, oh god, what is that? See?

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<v Speaker 1>I try to use the natural deodorant. I'm wearing real

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<v Speaker 1>stuff today, but I'm trying to not get Alzheimer's. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I find that my pitts are stinky the second I

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the shower. I'm like, why don't even bother?

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<v Speaker 1>They're just always stinky. I find that I only get

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<v Speaker 1>be a well, No, my bo has definitely gotten worse

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<v Speaker 1>as I've aged, but it's still not that bad. But

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely get it when I drink coffee. I started

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<v Speaker 1>sweating a meatia when I drink coffee, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's too much of a stimulant for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just all amped up. Yeah, I am amped up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty Yeah. I have a lot to be amped

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<v Speaker 1>up about, namely ozempic. Ozempic. For those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>are have been living under a rock. Everyone is on ozempic,

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<v Speaker 1>is on this weight loss drug. I was taking semi

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<v Speaker 1>glue tide and I had no idea that is ax empic,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was wondering why I was nauseated for two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks straight. But I've been giving a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been giving it to a lot of people. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like running a whole thing out of my house because

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<v Speaker 1>people are it's like a miracle. I mean, people are sick,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're losing. But it's like it's a diabetes drug, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the side effect is it kills your appetite. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is, it's just so unpleasant to be nauseous.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you have to find the sweet spot that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make you nauseous and then slowly build it up

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<v Speaker 1>over time incrementally. But I can't pretend that I have

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<v Speaker 1>enough weight to lose to be on some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>weight loss drugs, So I mean, I'm just abusing my

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<v Speaker 1>body if I take that. I mean, like rips, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got your Ben Bruno, like you got your muscles, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>But imagine if this ozempic just makes me muscular, like

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a fat burning I have to look up

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<v Speaker 1>and see if it actually burns fat or if it

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<v Speaker 1>just kills your appetite, because it does make you feel

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<v Speaker 1>full faster, like I definitely when I took it, I

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<v Speaker 1>had more control over myself. And then I lowered my

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<v Speaker 1>dosage because I want to have an appetite. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go nuts, you know. And then my

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<v Speaker 1>cousin's on it, but she's taking such a small, small

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<v Speaker 1>amount that she doesn't even feel the effects of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she's like, my doctor's anantochronologists. She wants me

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<v Speaker 1>to be very safe and we have to go very slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, come over to my house and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the proper dosage. So for everyone out there,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to your doctor or come to my place and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll inject you with semi glutade. I have an update,

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea from one of our collar Does anybody know that

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Bruno, my trainer, has gotten a gage. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you got engaged to his girlfriend Nicole, who's

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<v Speaker 1>who's called No Bread. So anybody, anybody who's gluten free

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<v Speaker 1>or has still act disease or any of that, you

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<v Speaker 1>should follow her because she has like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great tips on how to eat without ever having anything bad. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and like recipes and stuff. She's a cute eat And

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<v Speaker 1>she also has the flattest stomach I think I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen on any woman. I guess that's what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have gluten that bloats you, right, because even

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm my body's banging, I don't have that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like everybody these days, and it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>all the slebs Kim Kardashi and all those people. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned her name, but everyone's ribs forward, like everything

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<v Speaker 1>is about the ribs, and everyone's got these very flat stomachs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, have you noticed this trend? Well, it's ozempic asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you that's the trend. Think that's what it is, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>I have an update from a collar. This is from

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<v Speaker 1>a who wrote in on our Dan Savage episode about

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<v Speaker 1>she and her husband had just gotten married and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like not having sex hardly at all, So she says, hi, again,

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<v Speaker 1>my initial letter probably lacked a lot of key details.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, my husband and I weren't living together

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<v Speaker 1>and we were working completely different schedules. He's a bar

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<v Speaker 1>tender and I work night. Not living together, Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a big that'll kill your sex life. So we

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<v Speaker 1>really never sought each other to have sex. When we

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<v Speaker 1>did see each other for the one night a week

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<v Speaker 1>we could, there was a lot of pressure on us

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<v Speaker 1>to have sex, and pressure isn't really that sexy, which,

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<v Speaker 1>like I hear that he was also going through a

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<v Speaker 1>tough depression. I did take Chelsea and Dan's advice and

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<v Speaker 1>just letting go of things and letting things happen more naturally.

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<v Speaker 1>It was harder than I thought it would be. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to sit with the idea that his attraction to

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<v Speaker 1>me isn't only based on looks, but also on his

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<v Speaker 1>mood and the larger context that seems obvious. But in

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<v Speaker 1>order to truly let things go and happen naturally, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to really wrestle with the idea that his not

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<v Speaker 1>wanting sex doesn't mean there's something wrong with me or

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't love me. It is of course, still

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<v Speaker 1>a work in progress, and I'm healing from dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>neglect and childhood. We're having significantly more sex now that

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<v Speaker 1>we're living together, not quite as much as I would like,

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<v Speaker 1>since we still work opposite schedule, but I'm realizing that

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<v Speaker 1>we go through cycles in life and especially in marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're having more sex or less sex, and that's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also realizing in talking to friends that not having

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<v Speaker 1>that much sex in the marriage is actually quite common.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we hear about husbands badgering their wives

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<v Speaker 1>for sex all the time, but we don't hear much

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<v Speaker 1>about wives who want more sex in their marriage. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that there are plenty of wives who are in

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<v Speaker 1>the same position. So I hope this helps someone else

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<v Speaker 1>to Thank you for following up, sincerely, A. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. I, for one, usually in our marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least for the first decade, I was the

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<v Speaker 1>one who wanted more sex than he did. And it

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<v Speaker 1>changes changes from months to month, it changes from year

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<v Speaker 1>to year. Sometimes you're gonna have like tons of sex

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe more sporadic sex, but it might be even

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<v Speaker 1>better sex. But why were they fucking living together as

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<v Speaker 1>a married couple. I don't understand that. My guess is

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<v Speaker 1>probably like work related, work related. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>did that mean? She left that information out. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty crucial piece of information, So please include all

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<v Speaker 1>the details when you're right againsto teer Chelsea. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>take this ship really seriously. Yes, but also make your

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<v Speaker 1>emails brief please. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yet to be succinct.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, with all of the details. Listen, I love

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<v Speaker 1>bullet points, if you send me something with bullet points.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to think about all the sex I've

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<v Speaker 1>had in my life and when there was ever like

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<v Speaker 1>a deficit of sex. Yeah, well, I mean when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in a relationship, I guess because I've never been married,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but some men become unfuckable within the relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>like they do something that is a turn off, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember a long a relationship a long time

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<v Speaker 1>ago that I was in and we lived together. There

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<v Speaker 1>was like a period towards the end where he just

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<v Speaker 1>was so needy, so needy that it was not sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I would just pretend that I had a

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<v Speaker 1>east infection, like almost every week to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>sucking him and I would just be like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>another yeast infection, I have this. I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have used COVID had it been before that, before COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's another great way to get out of sex

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning. It's always great, it's always fun. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously that honeymoon period doesn't last. I guess I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how long it lasts for I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a year, yeah, because it's gonna be different for everybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And when people do stuff like I just wish men

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<v Speaker 1>were aware of the behavior and women of the behavior

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<v Speaker 1>that makes us not want to have sex with you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like really jealous behaviors a turn off, really needy behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, does anyone like a needy guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. And it's just it's so obvious

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<v Speaker 1>when you see it. You see the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship when someone starts becoming needy and like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>don't go somewhere without me or don't do this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you see the end in sight. Just because

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<v Speaker 1>it just drives someone away. You just have to like,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't feel it inside, you just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be like cock sure, like I'll be here, you do

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<v Speaker 1>your thing. I'm great. Yeah, I think when you hold

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<v Speaker 1>onto something too tight, you're always gonna lose it. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the lesson of the day. Yes, I've been meaning

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you that you're gonna have to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of your social media accounts because we're going to combine

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<v Speaker 1>ours because you're not allowed to have your own anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been meaning to tell you. I've been meaning

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<v Speaker 1>to let you know what I'm what I'm about to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a death knell when you see somebody who's like

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<v Speaker 1>the couple's name is the Facebook account or Instagram account,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like controlling Chelsea. I have a question from one

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners that's kind of about voting, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know you've been posting a ton about that lately. Yes, guys, voting.

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<v Speaker 1>You can vote early and the last day of voting

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<v Speaker 1>is November eight. If you are not registered to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still register to vote. It is really really

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<v Speaker 1>important to be voting, guys. It's complicated and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pain in the ass, and it's worth it. Awesome. So specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom says, dear Chelsea, I just want to start out

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<v Speaker 1>by saying I love your podcast. I listened to it

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<v Speaker 1>every week during my six hour drive to Berkeley from

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Irwin, California to visit my husband. I'm a tw

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<v Speaker 1>the eight year old white gay guy in the army,

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<v Speaker 1>finishing up almost seven years, and I'm trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>a more responsible voter. I've gotten my past two ballots,

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<v Speaker 1>like most military people, absentee. Coming from a conservative household,

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<v Speaker 1>I was definitely brainwashed in my younger years into that mentality,

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<v Speaker 1>which obviously goes against my liberal and progressive ideals. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to vote more responsibly, but I find it difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to find information on local candidates and smaller races so

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<v Speaker 1>I know who to vote for. Do you know if

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<v Speaker 1>any good tools to find out more about people up

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<v Speaker 1>for election? Ballot PDA seems to be the biggest one,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't tell me anything on that person's voting

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<v Speaker 1>history and stuff like that. Thank you very respectfully, Tom Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Tom Good questions, because, Yeah, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cheat sheets you can use, Like for instance, I

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<v Speaker 1>used the l A Times cheat sheep. There were a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of votes I didn't agree with that the l

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<v Speaker 1>Times had, so I used a progressive cheat sheet too.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some progressive outlet. But if you go to that candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're deciding between two candidates, you can go to

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<v Speaker 1>that candidate's website and they should have a history of

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<v Speaker 1>everything that they voted on. If they do not have

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<v Speaker 1>a history of what they voted on, it's public information.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to dig a little deeper and like

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<v Speaker 1>probably go to the state legislation for California and find

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<v Speaker 1>out which candidates you know voted for what. But for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in the country, you have to find your progressive

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<v Speaker 1>liberal cheat sheet. They can't do that. Set support, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a voter's guide, and those are easily attained because

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<v Speaker 1>when I looked it up, like five came up and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I picked the top two that

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<v Speaker 1>I know about. Because there's just too many measures on

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<v Speaker 1>every ballot and the wording is can be very confusing,

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<v Speaker 1>so they can kind of like, depending on which state

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<v Speaker 1>you live in, they can trick you into voting for

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<v Speaker 1>something that you really don't want to be voting for. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Another recommendation that a friend of mine actually gave me

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<v Speaker 1>was to go to a local chapter of an organization

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, share beliefs with. Maybe it's like white

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<v Speaker 1>people for Black Lives or whatever it is, and ask

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<v Speaker 1>them specifically about people in your area. And for those

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<v Speaker 1>local elections. Yeah, and for this elections specifically, it would

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<v Speaker 1>probably be any candidate that is pro you know, writes

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<v Speaker 1>abortion rights. I think that is probably the most important

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<v Speaker 1>issue on the ballot right now. And go vote. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking vote people. You can look if someone votes. If

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<v Speaker 1>I ever meet a man that wants to have sex

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<v Speaker 1>with me again that doesn't vote, it's not happening. Just

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<v Speaker 1>know that because I know there's a ton of straight

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<v Speaker 1>men listening. Oh you guys, I'm performing this weekend in

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson Saturday night and uh Colorado Springs, Colorado Sunday night. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>tickets are still available for both shows. So bye some

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<v Speaker 1>okay bye. I'm excited about our guest today because I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't spoken to her in a long time and she's

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<v Speaker 1>a great actress. She's beautiful. I love watching her and

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<v Speaker 1>her lover and their baby. You can see how much

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<v Speaker 1>motherhood has changed her if you follow her on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a new book coming out, a baby book

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<v Speaker 1>called A Name from the Sky, and she's a new

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<v Speaker 1>move called Marlow that's also coming out. So say Hello

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<v Speaker 1>to Diane Krueger. Hi, Hi alright, baby cakes, Hi are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? I love you. I'm so happy to

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<v Speaker 1>see that beautiful face. Tom me too. It's been so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I haven't seen you since when I was

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<v Speaker 1>last time I saw you. Let me think, let me

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<v Speaker 1>jog my memory. I feel like I always see you

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<v Speaker 1>at Vanity Fair every year, or at the Chateau Marmont.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we were once having a conversation at the

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<v Speaker 1>Chateau Marmont, bitching about our respective boyfriends at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very like, where are you. I am in New

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<v Speaker 1>York right now. I want to tell you that I

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<v Speaker 1>follow you on Instagram and I have been so moved

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<v Speaker 1>by you having a baby and your reaction and just

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<v Speaker 1>how I can feel the love that you have for

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<v Speaker 1>being a mother and being in like a great healthy

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and watching you with your daughter. It's just so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really heartwarming. And I don't really appreciate children, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's saying a lot well coming from you. Then, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Chelsea, it's like it's I never thought I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted kids to be honest. For a long time, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think so. And Nova was a surprise, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so amazing how life can be. She came at

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<v Speaker 1>the least expected but yet most wanted time in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Really changed my life in the best possible way. That's sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>So you weren't planning on having a baby. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Yeah, no, I mean, you know, it's it

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<v Speaker 1>crossed my mind, and then you know, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's done. I'm too old, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. And it did. Well good. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that it happened for you, because I you you also

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<v Speaker 1>just wrote a children's book based on probably becoming a mother,

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<v Speaker 1>I would presume, right, Well, the book is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about my childhood. So what happened was I was

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<v Speaker 1>in l A working and my mom from Germany was

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<v Speaker 1>in town to help me with Nova, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>both one, and you know, the world shut down and

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<v Speaker 1>weeks turned into months, and I hadn't spent this much

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<v Speaker 1>time with my mom since I was probably sixteen, because

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<v Speaker 1>I moved out so young, and so we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about my childhood and stuff I had forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>and remembered fondly with her, and I remember that she

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<v Speaker 1>told me the meaning of my name because I was

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<v Speaker 1>really teased for my name, which seems incordible because it's Diane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that unusual, but where I'm from, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And she really did change my life because it made

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<v Speaker 1>she made me feel special. And I'm named after Diane,

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<v Speaker 1>the goddess of Hunt. And I was a very odd kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have many friends. My best friend was my

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<v Speaker 1>pet bunny Benny, who was a real buddy who would

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<v Speaker 1>come to school with me on a leash every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and so kids thought I was crazy. And I loved

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<v Speaker 1>to read, and my best friends with the characters in

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<v Speaker 1>my books. So I felt very unseen. And she changed

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<v Speaker 1>my life that way by explaining to you the meaning

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<v Speaker 1>of your name. Yeah, I just felt like, what could

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<v Speaker 1>be so special about me? You know, a little for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Could I be ever im as powerful as this god is?

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<v Speaker 1>And could my life have a destiny in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that was different and special? And so when you know

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<v Speaker 1>Nova was born, I remember we were thinking so hard

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<v Speaker 1>about how to name her, and I just started writing

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<v Speaker 1>it down and that's kind of how it happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>found an editor, and I mean it's been two years

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<v Speaker 1>in the making. Wow, So how is your relationship changed

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<v Speaker 1>with your own mom. Since you've had a child, has

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<v Speaker 1>it changed, It's changed a lot. I finally understand I'm

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<v Speaker 1>conditional love. You know. I think I moved out very young.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a very complicated situation, family situation at home,

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<v Speaker 1>so my mom kind of lost out of all the

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<v Speaker 1>good years. I guess you get with your daughter, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you become friends and things are not so hard anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I never really came home after I

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<v Speaker 1>moved out, and so my daughter brought us back together

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<v Speaker 1>because I I didn't know that my mom would step

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<v Speaker 1>up as such a great grand parent. You know, she

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<v Speaker 1>really is here when I need her. It makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel so much better about going to work, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not having her being raised by nanny's when I'm away,

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<v Speaker 1>and just seeing her kindness. It's just really been a

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<v Speaker 1>watership moment for me. Um. You know, we still have

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<v Speaker 1>our differences, of course, but I find myself to be

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<v Speaker 1>much kinder these days. Yeah. Yeah, So when you moved

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<v Speaker 1>at sixteen, where did you go Paris to start modeling,

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<v Speaker 1>acting exactly modeling Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and then New

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<v Speaker 1>York at eighteen, and you know, back and forth, so

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<v Speaker 1>you speak French, German, English, anything else. No, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And are you teaching your daughter? Are do you? You

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<v Speaker 1>speak to her in French and German as well? Not

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<v Speaker 1>so much in French, even though you know, we live

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<v Speaker 1>in Paris right now for a year as a family,

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<v Speaker 1>just for work reasons, and she's going to school there

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<v Speaker 1>as well, French English bilingual school, and she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>a German school once a week, so hopefully she'll get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cute, I love that. Yeah, I know. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to learn Spanish for about seven years, so I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the real key ingredient to everybody is to fucking

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<v Speaker 1>learn it as a baby so you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn it as an adult because we should all know

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<v Speaker 1>multiple languages. And I'm sick of my I have my

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<v Speaker 1>first Spanish class tomorrow. By the way, I'm really she

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<v Speaker 1>does pretty well. I came back from Spain. We were

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<v Speaker 1>in my Orca for a month. That I came back.

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<v Speaker 1>I told my housekeeper, I'm like, listen, don't speak anything

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<v Speaker 1>but Spanish. We're only speaking Spanish from now and I

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<v Speaker 1>need to level up. And I mean it's really limiting her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't understand the word. She's said since our return,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really limiting our conversation. But also talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me about you and Norman. You're not married, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet? You got engaged. Oh you did? Congratulations, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a cute I love Norman. I met him once,

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<v Speaker 1>I did an interview with him, and I liked him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. So I was very happy to find out

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<v Speaker 1>about you guys getting together because you seem like a

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<v Speaker 1>great hair and I know that you've been in you

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot, a couple of relationships prior to that

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<v Speaker 1>and longer ones. So talk to us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about how you're life has changed by being in this

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and how you know you've grown. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I'm much more my own person. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>tend to I mean, that might sound really dark, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I hope things will work out with Norman,

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<v Speaker 1>will always be together, but I've kind of grown into

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<v Speaker 1>being more independent, you know, being hopefully actually a better partner,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where I let him do his thing, support

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<v Speaker 1>him and what he wants to do, but reserve the

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<v Speaker 1>rights that I want the same for myself. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to really live the life of a good family

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<v Speaker 1>where we model to our child that it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>be absent, it's okay to work, but it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>important thing is to be a family and uphold those traditions.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really want to show up and I need

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<v Speaker 1>him to show up, you know. Yeah. I I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like as we get how old are you, Diane, and

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<v Speaker 1>oh you are okay, we're almost the same age on

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven. I feel like as we get into our forties,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear that a lot, that you come into your

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<v Speaker 1>own and off. But it's like very true about the

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<v Speaker 1>maturity level that used to be a dirty word to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when people said, you know, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>more mature, grow up, I'd be like, I don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>want to grow up. I always want to be like this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I want to be like crazy and and

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<v Speaker 1>and spontaneous. And I kind of confused what mature is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And now that I'm at this age, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so nice to handle things with a level of maturation.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes in many instances for the first time, even ending

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<v Speaker 1>relationships or having difficult conversations are just so much more

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<v Speaker 1>mature and less dramatic because yes, yes, like the drama

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<v Speaker 1>and the thirst for drama that I experienced when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger. I always regretted it. I always regretted the

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<v Speaker 1>way I would handle things or end things, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>be a romantic relationship or a friendship. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>very calm, knowing nous that comes after forty especially after

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<v Speaker 1>forty five, And I can't wait to see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't really want to get any more mature

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<v Speaker 1>than this. You know what I mean this, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>them in my sweet spot and that I have accountability

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<v Speaker 1>and I can listen to differing opinions and then actually

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<v Speaker 1>be like oh, instead of being fixed on my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas I was like that in my thirties. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I knew everything and you couldn't tell me differently. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea of being able to change your opinions

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<v Speaker 1>now I agree. I mean, there are things I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you, but I accepted a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>in previous relationships that I just wouldn't anymore. Not because

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<v Speaker 1>they they were bad people, whatever. They make me do

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<v Speaker 1>things that I didn't want to do, But I just

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm not going to be happy with certain criterias.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not meant, you know what I'm saying. So I

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<v Speaker 1>won't settle for less if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I feel too. It's like there's a level

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<v Speaker 1>of standard, you know, like there's a standard now that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be above that line. And it's nice

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.679
<v Speaker 1>to know that about yourself without questioning it. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being in my thirties always asking everybody about their

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<v Speaker 1>opinion about everything, and now I just ask few and

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<v Speaker 1>fewer people because I don't care what everybody thinks. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you think, and you know what your

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<v Speaker 1>opinions are. You ask yourself. Yeah, and there's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great feeling as a woman to be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what the right thing to do here is

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<v Speaker 1>and not relying on other people for their interference anyway. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna we're taking calls people zoom in. They

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<v Speaker 1>ask us really fucking serious questions. So get ready to Diane. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're giving them life advice. Oh oh god. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Before we do that, we're gonna take a really quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be right back and we're back fantastic. Well, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>with Chelsea and Diane Krueger. This first email actually fits

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<v Speaker 1>right in with what you were talking about just now.

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<v Speaker 1>So this first email comes from tired Mama. You're Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a mom of two young boys and also work

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<v Speaker 1>a full time job as a heavy equipment operator. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a shift worker, which means I work days and nights

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hour shifts and often work overtime. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get ahead financially and contribute to providing for my family.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband works full time as well the same schedule

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<v Speaker 1>and also has done his fair share of overtime while

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<v Speaker 1>I was on maternity leave. My issue is I often

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<v Speaker 1>feel guilty taking time for myself in regards to self care, massage, chiropractic, acupuncture,

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<v Speaker 1>and yoga because I'm working so much, so in doing

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<v Speaker 1>any of those things, I have less time available to

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<v Speaker 1>spend with my kids. After every shift, my body aches.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, yet I forced myself to work more overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband has made comments in the past about me,

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<v Speaker 1>quote not making my kids a priority. When I had

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<v Speaker 1>a babysitter lined up so I could play softball, I

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<v Speaker 1>was only able to make it three games last summer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to mention anything about my hobbies or

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<v Speaker 1>passions because I just don't have time to pursue them.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even say anything negative about my husband, as

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<v Speaker 1>he's a great dad and rarely takes any time for

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<v Speaker 1>himself either. He believes that work is the only time

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<v Speaker 1>he can handle being away from his kids and wants

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<v Speaker 1>to spend all of his free time with them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I love most about him,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also causing tension and resentment in our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I go about creating a healthy work life

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<v Speaker 1>balance that won't give me major mom guilt? Signed another

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<v Speaker 1>tired guilty mama. Oh, it's so hard to be a

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<v Speaker 1>parent so much work? Well, that sounds tough. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it is tough and the best of times, and that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a really tough situation. Yeah, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, just because he wants to be with

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<v Speaker 1>his kids all the time, that's great. Obviously, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great quality. But you're not the same person, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have different brains and different genetic makeups and different needs

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<v Speaker 1>and different wants. And if you sit down and explain

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<v Speaker 1>to him that and that this will help you be

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<v Speaker 1>a better parent at home, It's like putting that oxygen

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<v Speaker 1>mask on yourself before you put it on anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you have to take care of yourself, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you're working at like you know, manual label. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's not easy on your body. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even just for that, it's for your own health and

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<v Speaker 1>longevity an ability to work those extra hours. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you said that you need the money and

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a financial situation. But if there's any chance

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't have to work extra hard, like, please don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand if you need to do it, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but if you don't, it's like that's

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<v Speaker 1>giving yourself the gift of time as well. Everybody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to recuperate and rest from whatever they do. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would really advise sitting down with your husband and just

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<v Speaker 1>laying it all out. Please don't make me feel guilty

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<v Speaker 1>for taking care of myself and explain, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the sweetest way, like what this job does to you physically,

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<v Speaker 1>and figure out a solution between the two of you

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<v Speaker 1>that it feels like a compromise because it can't just

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<v Speaker 1>be black or white, like you've got to have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit you know, He's got to give you something

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do in your spare time to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of recoup, whether it's a massage or you go and

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<v Speaker 1>play softball or whatever. Yeah, I think in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it would come down to having a conversation with your

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<v Speaker 1>husband about this is what I need from this relationship

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<v Speaker 1>and this family, and this is what you need and

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<v Speaker 1>want from this relationship. So as partners, how can we decide, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this X amount of time per week you a lot

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<v Speaker 1>from my self care. Whatever I want to do in

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<v Speaker 1>that time doesn't matter if I want to go softball

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<v Speaker 1>or I want to go to take a massage, but

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<v Speaker 1>these two hours per week with three hours per week

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<v Speaker 1>are for me, and then decide which ones are for

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<v Speaker 1>him so that he doesn't feel guilty, right, so, and

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<v Speaker 1>then stick to that. But there's really I totally get

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<v Speaker 1>where she's coming from, that guilt. I mean, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>it when I'm making a movie and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen hour days and I don't see her for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm double shifting and she's crying. It's it's it's tough,

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<v Speaker 1>But partnership is really maybe she has family, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>family to help out every once in a long you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you said that you have your mom

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<v Speaker 1>come and help with Nova, and that she's a resource

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<v Speaker 1>for you and having her have that extra time with

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<v Speaker 1>her Grandma's probably amazing. And the other thing I would

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<v Speaker 1>say is, you know, if there's not family in the

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<v Speaker 1>area and you can't afford a babysitter, find a friend

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<v Speaker 1>who's got kids around the same age and do that

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<v Speaker 1>for a each other. So you know, Tuesdays will watch

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>your kids for a few hours. Thursdays you watch our

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<v Speaker 1>kids for a few hours, so you have that time.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing too, is you do need time

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<v Speaker 1>to reconnect with your husband. Like, if you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a partnership that can withstand raising kids

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<v Speaker 1>and long hours and all that stuff, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>set aside a little bit of time for each other

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<v Speaker 1>as well, even if it's just a little bit each

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<v Speaker 1>week or you know, a small amount of time every night. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this isn't a huge problem. It's just something

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<v Speaker 1>that you should It's actually a good way to like

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<v Speaker 1>practice problem solving within your marriage when things come up,

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<v Speaker 1>because your husband sounds awesome and there's no way when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to him in a real way about how

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling. That he won't be responsive to that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he just has to hear it more specifically from you

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<v Speaker 1>in a more measured kind of way, without the children around,

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<v Speaker 1>without any distractions. So yes, have that conversation, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we wish you well and please keep us posted. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Our next question comes from Paul Att. She'sa is dear Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>I met my husband almost nine years ago at a

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<v Speaker 1>work conference. We met, fell in love, and I moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Quebec to become a stepmom and we married all

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<v Speaker 1>another two years now. We have eighteen year old twins

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<v Speaker 1>and a twenty year old, all living at home two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks on, two weeks off and not pulling their weight.

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<v Speaker 1>The oldest is working and going to school. The twins

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<v Speaker 1>are working but not going to school. Their bond with

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<v Speaker 1>their dad is tight and they prefer to be at

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<v Speaker 1>our house all the time. I understand because we live

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<v Speaker 1>on the water with all the water sports toys available

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<v Speaker 1>to them. But I'm a fifty three year old woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was raised apart from my siblings, have never had

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<v Speaker 1>a roommate and lived most of my adult life alone

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<v Speaker 1>in my own house. Moving to Quebec, I was thrust

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<v Speaker 1>into disorder and immediately put on the hat of a stepmom,

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<v Speaker 1>a short order chef, cleaning lady, laundress, taxi driver, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>At first it was new and I had the energy

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<v Speaker 1>for it. But now, as a step parent of adult kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I want my clean, orderly alone time at least a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days a week. My husband doesn't understand or agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I being unreasonable? Thank you for your time, paul At.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the theme today is women need to be alone.

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<v Speaker 1>You need alone time. Why don't you guys get about this?

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<v Speaker 1>And when we were having our our pre interview, call

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<v Speaker 1>poor paul At like she's she was outside taking some

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<v Speaker 1>time to have this conversation with me, and literally in

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<v Speaker 1>the span of five minutes she got interrupted like three times.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're not It's true, Hi, Paulat, Hi, Hi, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me. Yeah, our pleasure. Diane is our

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<v Speaker 1>special guest today. So wait, wait, wait, she she's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a mother. Actually, Diane, you go first, being that you

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<v Speaker 1>are the only mother in this room besides Paula. Well listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't consider herself a step mom, but my

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<v Speaker 1>better half has a twenty three year old. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>live with us, But I would say, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>just me, so call me mean spirited, but I one

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. It is your house, it is your rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you do suck it up and you

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<v Speaker 1>are an excellent mom to these kids or your stepmom

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<v Speaker 1>taking them to work or whatever they're doing, they and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty they need to clean their ship up. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>teaching my four year old to clean up one? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that it gets in the easier. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that with my husband's kids, they were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better when they were younger, like listening and cleaning up

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and they've kind of gotten to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where they know everything, you know, and so even though

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be treated like adults, they don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>want to, like, you know, pay for them on house

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<v Speaker 1>paper or clothes, you know, stuff like that. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what's your husband's take on the situation. My husband,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very giving, He's a very very he's a giver.

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<v Speaker 1>He would just keep on giving, giving, giving. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he pulls back because he sees how

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<v Speaker 1>it text me. So he's he is being a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit respectful. There's a lot of times where he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the big deal? You know, But it's a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal because it affects me inside. It affects me how

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<v Speaker 1>my you know, how my days go. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I I kind of feel a little bit. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit desserting of the children and there development

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<v Speaker 1>because I do need that alone time. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how it affects them, and I'm kind of concerned

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<v Speaker 1>with that too. Well, you have you had a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with your husband about this. I have, But there goes

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<v Speaker 1>a long period time where he's very understanding and then

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<v Speaker 1>something happens, Like the most recent thing is my husband

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<v Speaker 1>he his oldest son wanted to have his girlfriends spending

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<v Speaker 1>the night. They've been dating together for a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, I wasn't really ready for that.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't really been participating in the house. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have a game plan, let's not do that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not agree to this now. And then the son helps

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<v Speaker 1>him out with a couple of things around the house,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, you know, it just

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<v Speaker 1>changes and he's like, oh yeah, so, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the girlfriend is spending night tonight I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to talk to you about that stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not almost like inviting another roommate. Yeah and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not going to happen. No. But also that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a good partner, right, he can't make those decisions

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<v Speaker 1>without you. I think you can only be in a

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<v Speaker 1>partnership if you get from it what you need, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And he I understand that he wants to be a

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<v Speaker 1>good dad, and he's you know, he's the father of

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<v Speaker 1>these children, so I'm sure there's guilt of having a

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<v Speaker 1>divorce and whatever else is going on in his head

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<v Speaker 1>and being wanting to be a fun dad and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I would suggest writing down your needs and

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<v Speaker 1>an ideal world what needs to happen. And then even

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>if you want to write a dog is sometimes they

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like emails or like a written thing is easier

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<v Speaker 1>to digest than talking face to face at first, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't have an emotion, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>react to it with the other person. And then one

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<v Speaker 1>solution I could already see is that you say to him, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like one day a week, two days a week, I

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<v Speaker 1>really need my alone time, So I need you, I

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<v Speaker 1>need you to schedule time with your children, take them

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<v Speaker 1>to the park, take them to I don't know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the city, movies, whatever. But I need the house for

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<v Speaker 1>myself from eight to six. I don't need see any

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<v Speaker 1>of you. And then you know, he needs to do

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that to make you happy, because otherwise, I mean, that's

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>not fair on you. It's not a partnership. Yeah, I agree, Paula.

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>You had also mentioned there's a bit of a language

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>barrier because the kids are friends speaking and you're in right, Yeah,

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>so they're they're English is a lot better now since

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've known them for like eight years, but

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>my French is not as good. But there is still that.

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>So I think that kind of affected that the beginning

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>or the forming of the relationship because they wouldn't come

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to me for a lot of things. You know, um,

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they would come to me where's my dad? But that

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>was kind about it. So yeah, that's definitely, well, that's

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the perfect you can use that as a scapegoat, like

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously we've got our signals crossed here. I agree with Diane.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I always think it's better to write something down before

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you say it. But I think a good family meeting

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>is in order because people respect boundaries. They don't like

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it hearing it at first, but ultimately it's proven that

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>people understand. Once you've set a boundary, people understand that

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.439
<v Speaker 1>they need to respect that, you know what I mean,

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And then that instills more respect in them. And you

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>can say it like you know that it was a

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>language barrier, and maybe you didn't make yourself clear, but

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>there's no reason they shouldn't be cleaning up after themselves

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in your house. There's no reason. I had in a

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.240
<v Speaker 1>situation like that with my family and all my nieces

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and nephews one summer, and I had to write the

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>whole family a letter about what the normal things to

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>do and respectful things to do as teenagers, Like you

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>don't get to leave your dishes out, you don't get

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to leave your laundry out. You're not their cleaning lady.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>You're their stepmother, and you're a human being who needs

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>her own space. And you know you didn't have children.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>You're happy to have these people in your life and

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you love them, I'm sure, but this was a situation

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that you came into. So to have them think about

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that and understand that a little bit better, and that

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you're an individual who needs your own private situation going

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.479
<v Speaker 1>on and you're alone time, thank you. I also think

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like there might be a conversation about what age is

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the right age to start paying rent, and maybe that

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>rent just goes towards a cleaning lady who comes once

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>week and I can clean up after their messes. But

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I also find if moving out as kind of the

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>goal at some point, eventually charging a twentysomething rent is

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>a good way to help them move that direction strategy. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>it's hard. And then you know, one of the when

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the sense, they'll send us like a picture of a

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>bike that he wants to buy, and I'm like, three

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 1>months rent right there? What are you doing? So did

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you say the twenty year old lives with you? Two?

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>All three of them? Oh yeah, yeah, they should trans

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>start transitioning out of that. But that's something you can

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>talk to with your husband for you bring that up,

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>because let's ease into this conversation so that you get

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>good results, right, so that they're responsive, because who can

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>argue with a conversation about cleaning up after yourself. It's

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>not a really arguable vantage point, you know, right, And

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I love the idea of you know, as Diane said,

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like writing down those dates and times like this is

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>when I have the house to myself, you guys go

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>out and like that's a non negotiable. Yeah. I like

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that because it gives me a control about too. I

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>think that that's a lot of what I'm missing, is

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like some kind of control in my life, and to

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to expect when you're going to have the

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>house to yourself, you know, setting that expectation of like, okay,

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>this is my time exactly. Well, thank you, Yeah, thanks

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>for calling in, Paula. Good luck with everything. Thanks, I

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Have a great line to take care. Bye. Thanks,

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I an bye. I wouldn't be down with any eighteen

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>year olds living with me under any circumstance. They could visit,

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's an even visiting can't go on forever, you

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I'm not down with that, like ongoing.

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I love being alone. I can't even tell you. I

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>mean I can. I could go on and on about it.

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just so nice. I just love sleeping alone, you know.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean not that I would do I do I do.

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean only just because I'm fresh out of a

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship where I slept with somebody every night, and I

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>like my dogs in my bed, and I like to

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.959
<v Speaker 1>like I just like I like to be alone in bed.

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>You're a good sleeper too, and I love sleeping. I

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking love to sleep. I mean I could sleep for

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like ten hours. So yeah, yeah, that is a problem.

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 1>It is definitely the ongoing dispute in our family too,

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>because I like to go to bed early because I

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>have to get up early, and my better half does not,

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>so he's a night owl. Yeah, and he doesn't get

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>up to to go to school. I do you know

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>what time do you like to go to bed, Diane?

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, if I could, I'm not kidding, you know.

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>She's in bed by nine. I'm sucking exhausted. I'd like,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd like wanted down half a bottle of wine and

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>just pass out. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm with you, and

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a baby, so I can't even imagine

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 1>how exhausting it must be. I mean, if I could

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>go to bed at eight and feel like I could

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.720
<v Speaker 1>tell that to people, I would be doing that. Sometimes

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I stay out just in case somebody asked me what

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>time I went to bed, and I don't want to

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>sound It's like an asshole that I went to bed

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>at eight o'clock. Last night. We were at dinner. I know,

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I was at dinner with two girlfriends and I was like, okay,

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 1>we had dinner at seven thirty. At nine thirty probably,

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, I have to get home. I have

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to be in best by ten. And they're like, oh

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>my god, You're so ridiculous, and I'm like, no, I'm not.

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love sleeping, but that's I mean,

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing to know about yourself, so you

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 1>can just be like, I'm in a piece out now,

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>especially when I'm in a great hotel. I also love

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that that coziness with the nice sheets and the nice pillows. Yeah.

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Now they have this new thing where you can I

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>forget what it's called. Ben Bruno was telling me about

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>it this morning at my workout, like a temperature mattress

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>where you can adjust the temperature. Yeah, I need to

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.399
<v Speaker 1>get one of those, because no, you can either get

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the mattress or you can get the top of a mattress.

0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>It's called something. I'll find out the name of it.

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you like to sleep in a freezing bedroom? Or

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>sixty degrees? Is what my preference, and which is difficult

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>because most men don't. I once had a boyfriend who

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 1>wore a scarf every night because he was like, it's

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 1>so fucking cold in here, I'm gonna catch pneumonia, and

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I love sleeping in an ice box. Dude, you're a Norman.

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Are the same? I fucking hate it really well, you're Europeans.

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Europeans don't like the cold at night. No, that's not Yeah,

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it's in your blood. No, but there's cold, and there's

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>sixty five ice block, like you know, No, it's cold

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>while you're under the covers. No, that's crazy. Did you

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>guys just moved to l A or No, we've sold

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>our house and l are actually in New York. We

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>live in New York, but in Paris for a year.

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh I thought I read something that you went to

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a table read in Norman bought you guys a house

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>without you know, he did? He did, which is fun.

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>So we were there. We were there during during the pandemic,

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>which was great with a kid and everything. But then, uh, yeah,

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>we're just not l A people. I think I can

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>hear you. I'm I would like a real good excuse

0:39:58.080 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to move to New York because I'm over all, like

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I will, We'll have to do remote. Yeah, I'm over LA.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I find l A to be whenever I'm gone. I mean,

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not here a lot because I'm usually on tour.

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I travel a lot. I spend my winter skiing and Whistler.

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 1>But when i come back after being home for like

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, I'm just like, I gotta get the funk

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>out of here. It's just too much. It's too stupid

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>this town, it's too thulous. Are you in the city

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>or where are you? What time? Yeah? Well right now.

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately I'm in Beverly Hills because I'm in a rental

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm building a house in Brentwood, which will be

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 1>done in the winter time, and that'll be nice because

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that's more private. I just don't like the pressure of

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>going out all the time in l A. When people

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>know you're around, you kind of feel obligated to show

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.359
<v Speaker 1>up to things. I hate that. I want to do

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do, you know, I'm a little

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 1>bit selfish that way. That's why I leave town for

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>months at a time. Okay, who do we have next? Well,

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>our next color is Rachel, she says. Dear Chelsea I've

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>lived my entire life in a ten hour segment of

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I five between California and Oregon, and I find myself

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 1>dreaming daily about life beyond such a small bit of

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the world. My husband loves where we live. What's a

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 1>ten hour segment? What does that mean like within a

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>ten hour drive? I know, it's just just sort of

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>an artful way of describing it. My husband loves where

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 1>we live, surrounded by friends and family, good reliable work,

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the perfect home. But I want to create more experiences

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>for us. He says he's interested too, but I also

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 1>hear him saying regularly how much he loves living where

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>we do, having weekly game nights, pickleball games, and more.

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 1>It hurts my heart to think about taking him away

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>from all that, but my heart also aches for a

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:46.280
<v Speaker 1>life beyond southern Oregon. I want to experience several different lives,

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.439
<v Speaker 1>study abroad by getting my PhD, and planned last minute

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 1>weekend train trips to new countries. That said, I struggle

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>with high anxiety, so I'm quite understanding that the dream

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>of mine might be short lived. We might go abroad,

0:41:58.160 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and then I decide that's not what I thought it

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 1>would be, and hate it. And we're back within six months.

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm so torn. I don't know what to do or

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>where to start. Any ideas are greatly welcomed. Rachel and Nathan.

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we have our first couple. I love this.

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I did like couple's counseling for years. Hi, I was fabulous. Hi,

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:22.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you for having us. Yeah, Diane Krueger's our special

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:30.240
<v Speaker 1>guest today. And you know already, well are you all? Catherine? Likewise, well,

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>so you know you mentioned also Rachel that like you

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of anxiety of like if you

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.879
<v Speaker 1>do go abroad or you do go study somewhere else,

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>then you know Nathan is going to have a lot

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>of free time and be going to make friends and everything,

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and tell us a little bit about that. Yes, I

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>am quite a little bundle of anxiety. And when we

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:53.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about the potential of going abroad and moving abroad,

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Nathan's brought up I'm an invert. I'm happy every night

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>at home reading with that don't want to do. And

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, I I can just find friends. I'll

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>find places to go play board games if people hang

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.720
<v Speaker 1>out with and as he says that, and I say, absolutely,

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>my anxiety is like, but will I be comfortable with that?

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if I will feel safe if

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm home alone and you're out in the world and

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a world I don't know, I'm not comfortable with,

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>And I just worry that, like, if I can't do

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that for him, would that version of us being abroad

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>be okay with him? I'd be enough for him if

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just me at home and not let with me

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>not letting him be out. And then I feel bad

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 1>about that too if that's the reality of it. So

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it is that only that's okay? Is the only option

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.240
<v Speaker 1>moving abroad? Like what about moving somewhere within the country,

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:42.439
<v Speaker 1>so it's not such a big leak? Is that an option? Yeah?

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I think so, yes, I want to do it all.

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So I sawing Halter. I had this moment where I

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>realized I've only lived in a ten hour window by

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>five my entire life, and he's only lived in like

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a four hour window. And so I'm like, the world's

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>too big. I need to experience at all. I want

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to know what it's like to level the East Coast.

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.399
<v Speaker 1>But then all so abroad and I see pictures of

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>all these different countries and I don't just get this

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>feeling of like how fun it would be. I have

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a guttural like I need to be either, I need

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to experience it. But why why, I like, pack up

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>and leave your old life behind? Can you not go

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>for a month in an airbnb in Italy and just

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>live there for a months if you like it? I

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>would love to try that. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>give up my house before I knew I really liked Rome.

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>That seems you know what I mean? Yeah, I totally agree.

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I like having something to fall back on and I

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 1>feel more comfortable. I think we have a good a

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>good life here in Oregon. And yeah, that's I think

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>where some of the anxiety for me is coming from

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>is if we just like packed up and moved away

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>without knowing what reality would really look like. Yeah, I

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 1>think that's reasonable to have anxiety about that. Do you

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>have a place in mind, like are you obsessed with

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.760
<v Speaker 1>going to live in a certain part of the world

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>or is it just anywhere? I like the did like

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>getting my PhD a rod and then we're stable and

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>we're in one space, and then we could wake up

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>on the weekend and be like, let's take a train

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>trip into who knows where. And then the other part

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of me loves kind of the nomadic lifestyle of like

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>being three weeks in one town or country and then

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>just picking up and going to another one. And I

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want to sell the home because I want to

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 1>have a place to come back to. I want to

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:27.399
<v Speaker 1>InCor and knowing if it doesn't work out. Nathan's really analytical.

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 1>He he likes ask the why, and I'm like, why not,

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, And so we're kind of in a different area,

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, with meeting in the middle. And I think

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the other thing that worries me is at the end

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>of the day, he says, I would do anything for you,

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever brings you joy in life. I want to do

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that and make that happen for you. But then I

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 1>also worry if I'm affecting his happiness. I don't want

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>to do that, and I don't want to be selfish,

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know where that line is for both

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of us to be happy. But you don't. You don't

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>know until you go there. That's like, that's like saying,

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>what if the world ends next week and I haven't

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>tacked up my pictures. I mean, it's just like it's

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like you don't know until you do it. You just

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta jump the ship. Don't sell your house, go for

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a month long vacation, see what it's like, look at

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the universities. I don't know. Whatever you want to do,

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>come home, go to Paris on Christmas for two weeks

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:18.959
<v Speaker 1>and see if if you guys love it. I feel

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's a waste of time to talk about what

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>could be. Yeah, you're not doing it. You're living in

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>your anxiety I think a little bit too much, like

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 1>you're worried about all of these things that you'll never

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 1>know unless you take a leap of faith. And as

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>long as you guys who seem really solid, like you

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>have a solid relationship and a solid foundation, as long

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 1>as you guys commit to each other that you're going

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to do this as an experiment and you're gonna go

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:42.839
<v Speaker 1>look at schools and you're going to spend a month

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in some part of Italy or France or England or

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:49.720
<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever floats your boat. Just do it and commit

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to doing it together and seeing and having an open

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>communication about it the whole time. When you find someplace

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that you love and that you love that you feel

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>like you long, you're gonna know immediately you're both going

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to feel it, you know what I mean. So it's

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>like you can't answer that question before you take that

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>leap of faith. You know, you have to trust the process,

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>trust the unknown, and trust the universe is going to

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>show up for you in a way where you're going

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to be somewhere and you're gonna go, oh my god.

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It could be Amsterdam, you guys could be like, holy shit,

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>this is where we belong. This is where I see

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>myself living for the next five years. And then you

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 1>can come back and sell your house and take care

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of that. But yeah, you definitely want to go experiment.

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, are you financially able to do that? You guys, Yeah, yeah,

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>we we are financially. It's just getting that time off

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>from work can be tricky. We both have jobs, and

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, they've been fine with us taking a week

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 1>or two, but if it was a little bit longer

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and be a little bit more of a conversation, yeah,

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I think that's a conversation that's worth having.

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>My younger brother, this is pre pandemic. He and his

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:01.359
<v Speaker 1>wife got married and they wanted to go travel, so

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>they set up a time that was like six months

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that they want to travel South America, and his work

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>initially was like, Nope, we don't do work from home.

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:12.400
<v Speaker 1>We don't do remote no way. And he kind of

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 1>kept after it and they were like, all right, if

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you create a proposal about what that would look like,

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 1>what you're hours would look like, what the relationship to

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>the business looks like. He did. He created this whole

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>proposal and it then became the work from home manual

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>for the entire company. So, and of course there's so

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.320
<v Speaker 1>many things you can do from anywhere these days. Maybe

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that's maybe not the line of work that you're in,

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but there might be other options as well. But yeah,

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>if you can't afford to like just have your house empty,

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.919
<v Speaker 1>you can always think about airbn being it. You could

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>rent it out and you know, even if that is

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>for a month, like Diane said, or when you find

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the right place for six months or for a year,

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>so you sort of always know there's that place to

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 1>come home to if and when you need it. That

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 1>would be a great idea. Yeah, and if you can

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 1>work from Italy or wherever you guys, just I we've

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 1>already decided you're going to Italy apparently, but if you

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 1>could work, if you could work from somewhere, you know,

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.360
<v Speaker 1>even if it's like, Okay, we're gonna take two weeks off,

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 1>in the other two weeks, I'm gonna be available. You know.

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's a different time zone and different and there's

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 1>a big time difference, but still, like, I'm sure there's

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 1>ways around it. If you guys are intent on doing this,

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>which you seem to be, and be honest with them,

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is your wife's desires to go look

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>at master programs or whatever and and just be available

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>for whatever compromise you can make work wise. Yeah. I

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 1>also think I'm working about getting Italian citizenship through bloodline,

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and that won't happen for a couple of years. So

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>he makes him like great, whenever it happens, we can

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about this, like they'll let's go now, like we're

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 1>not probably tomorrow, let's do some version of this now.

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think I'm very like we'll start dipping your

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>toe in that water. Yeah. Absolutely. I just got my

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.399
<v Speaker 1>German citizenship because my mother is German, and it took

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>me two and a half years to get it. F

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 1>y I but she's been traveling. But and I was

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>paying somebody to do this for me, and it took

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a long time. So don't wait for that, you know

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. The other thing I think you have

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 1>to look at is, you know, obviously, Rachel, you've got

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>this amazing guy. He's like, whatever you want to do,

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:17.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever makes you happy, let's go do it. He loves you.

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think one thing you need to examine is

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>what's coming up for you and makes you feel so

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 1>scared and emotional about, Like if you want to stay

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 1>home with a book and he wants to go to

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a cafe and meet people and you know, go to

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.919
<v Speaker 1>a meetup group. It doesn't mean that you're not enough

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:37.919
<v Speaker 1>for him. He loves you exactly the way you are.

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>He loves that you're staying home to read a book

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.439
<v Speaker 1>and like have a cozy time. But he is also

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 1>going to need you know that outside stimulation. But outlets.

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 1>We all need our own outlets, and they're not always

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't share outlets. Just like you can't use the

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>same outlet in France that you use in America. We

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 1>all we all don't have the same outlets. What I

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 1>need to do is different than what my partner is

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 1>going to want to do, you know, and it's also

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.879
<v Speaker 1>nice to be like, cool, go do that, I'll be here. Yeah,

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it's very liberating, Like Dianne was just talking about that earlier,

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 1>like getting to the level and your relationship and a

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>maturity level where you're not threatened by somebody going and

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>doing their own thing because there's a trust and a

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>foundation that has been built, and it's good for people

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>to go and do their own thing. It's good for

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>people to have hobbies. If you didn't want to go

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>play pickleball or join these things, that would be weird,

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's it's more dynamic for you both to

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>have individual aspects of yourself that you don't necessarily share

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I have want of this and agree.

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:37.720
<v Speaker 1>My concern is more if I'm gonna be too scared

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to have him out in the world like that. Anxiety

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>pieces my my huge and guides about safety, and I

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.439
<v Speaker 1>worry like even like last night he was out playing

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:49.839
<v Speaker 1>soccer and I was like, oh, no, training, you got

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>in a car crash. And so that's something I've been

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 1>working out pretenders by therapist. Yes, So if I worried

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 1>about going out and then I don't want them to

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>go out. Yeah, if I take away that little joy like,

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just well, I think once you practice,

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:08.320
<v Speaker 1>have you made any progress? Look? Yeah, therapies for everyone,

0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:14.320
<v Speaker 1>just net way. Yeah, So I would just add that

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Rachel doesn't stop me from going out. She just has

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 1>these feelings she sort of deals with while I'm out,

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and some anxiety there. But she's not like campering my

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 1>life and like locking me change at home all the time.

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 1>So and do you check in with her a lot

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to ameliorate any of her fears. Yes, yeah, we except

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>for when I forget too and then that's been an issue.

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>But yes, we we try. We have a whole texting

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.400
<v Speaker 1>routine when I'm out and not at home. So I

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>have a girlfriend like that. She freaks out when her

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>husband goes on bike rides. He goes every Sunday morning,

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and she every Sunday morning, She's like, what if something happened?

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>What if something happened? And I'm like, what what is this?

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I had never seen? I'm like, what do you mean what?

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>He's on a fucking bike ride when he goes every Sunday,

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:00.360
<v Speaker 1>She's like, but every Sunday it happens so it's like

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.600
<v Speaker 1>this pathology that exists. So I know that what you're

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:07.359
<v Speaker 1>talking about is prevalent or exists. But yeah, the more

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you let him go out, does that help you with

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.840
<v Speaker 1>dealing with it? Yeah? And I think it's the idea

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:16.359
<v Speaker 1>whereas I know, once I'm there, I can see like, oh,

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the world feels normal and safe here. I don't know

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm scared about, but I just need to get there,

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, to that point, and to physically be in

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that space and recognize like this is a very normal space.

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>How funny that I want to not join you in

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 1>do my own thing and I don't worry about it.

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>But that's also in theory. So yeah, you have to stop.

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 1>You have to stop projecting all of your fears. I mean,

0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a good exercise. It's just to stop, Like when you're

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna say it out loud, don't you have to say

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the opposite and internalize it to yourself, like, this is

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 1>not a real fear. This is something that I have

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.799
<v Speaker 1>going on in my narrative that's speaking to me. It's

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that voice in the back of my head that's not

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the real you. And you have to separate those two things.

0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>We have the real us, and then we have that voice,

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>and that voice is just oh, he's trying to get

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 1>into us, you know, So you can exert control and

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>power over this situation by knowing that you're stronger than

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that voice. Yeah, that was a real game changer for

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.879
<v Speaker 1>me recently, was your thoughts just because they pop into

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 1>her and are not always true, And sometimes you can

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 1>have that like overarching like all right, my brain wants

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to tell me that this is a scary, frightening thing

0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that my husband's like going out and having a good

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:25.800
<v Speaker 1>time with, you know, with our friends or with whoever

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 1>he might be unsafe, maybe he meets somebody likes better

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<v Speaker 1>than me, whatever. But also the reminding yourself like that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a thought that's popping into my head. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it true. Yeah, I really like the word used narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like that's the narrative I'm telling myself, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's like that's so easily skewed, and like I can

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<v Speaker 1>rewrite that narrative and take control of it. Or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he's out, you can switch the flip the dialogue,

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<v Speaker 1>like Nathan's safe right now, Nathan's having a good time

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.839
<v Speaker 1>right now, Nathan's playing pickleball right now, and you keep

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<v Speaker 1>repeating that, and like the vibe will change event sally.

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 1>It will take time, but you've already been in therapy

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So it's just a matter of really just

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:07.359
<v Speaker 1>shifting your thinking, you know, and remembering that you are

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>in charge of your thoughts and your emotions and your actions. Sorry,

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say you're in charge of your thoughts, because

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<v Speaker 1>what you just said is true. We have thoughts that

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<v Speaker 1>pop into our head all the time. It's like when

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<v Speaker 1>my mom my sister had her baby, she goes, all

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I can think about is dropping my baby. All I

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 1>can think about is dropping my baby, and it's like

0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:24.320
<v Speaker 1>she can't control that coming into her head. But she

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:26.959
<v Speaker 1>had to understand she's not going to drop her baby.

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Like she's not gonna do that. You know. It's like

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:32.399
<v Speaker 1>irrational thoughts. So yeah, as long as you can try

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<v Speaker 1>to frame them, I think you'll be fine. And yeah,

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 1>go on that vacation. You guys have a great marriage.

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Go like, experience it, take a bunch of risks and

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 1>see where you land. You may go and be like

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to live anywhere other than Oregon. You

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:46.880
<v Speaker 1>never know, Yeah, I would be so upset if I

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>let my fears about what what ifs take away the

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:55.360
<v Speaker 1>possibility of living abroad and or other states and just

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 1>having that adventure together. So well, I want your next

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:04.239
<v Speaker 1>amount to us to be from Italy. I would love

0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:06.959
<v Speaker 1>that we went tony dated. I can't stop thinking about

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it still, So okay, Okay, Well have fun you guys,

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 1>keep us posted. Thank you so much, Dianne. That was

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.439
<v Speaker 1>especially to Chelsea Catherine. Thank you so much. Hi guys,

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you all for joining us by a lot of

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:28.320
<v Speaker 1>domestic issues today. Girls. Well, let's take a quick break

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be right back to wrap up with Diana

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 1>and Chelsea. Okay, and we're back with Diane Krueger. We're

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>going to wrap up our episode. Yes, and Diane, do

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you have any advice you'd like from Chelsea? Oh my god, Chelsea,

0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:47.880
<v Speaker 1>just tell me how to live. I follow you on

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and your life seems like a rock star. I

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:55.280
<v Speaker 1>just want to be you. Well, you had a baby,

0:56:55.480 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>so parties, parties over, parties over. You made your bed

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and now you have to lie in it for eighteen

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 1>years or if you're or if you're those kids from

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that other marriage until their twenty but I'm sure as

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:12.839
<v Speaker 1>your mother. I'm sure as a mother, you probably even

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the thought of your kids leaving, especially a daughter, is

0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 1>so terrifying to even think that there's a day that

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna want to go to college or leave home terrifying.

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I want her to be changed. I make her say,

0:57:25.480 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to stay with you. You know that book

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I Love You Whoever like? It's the children's book, and

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it's about this kid growing up right, And it's about

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the mother coming into the room every night and when

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the kids asleep, and she holds them and she sings

0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>from the songs saying I love you forever. I like

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you for always, as long as I'm living, my baby,

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you'll be And I like make her repeat it all

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the time so that she won't. At one point, the

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>mother grows old and the kid moves across town and

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>basically she then dies, and I make her say to

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>me that she will never move across town. That's funny.

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>A new book is called A Name from the Sky.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it's a great children's book. Great Christmas

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 1>gift for everybody who needs to get little kids some presents.

0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get a bunch of my friends that

0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 1>all have babies, and congratulations on that, and and congratulations

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 1>on being a happy camper these days. Sister, Thank you,

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I thank you so much. It was so lovely to

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 1>talk to you guys to psychwise. Nice to meet you.

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Have a great day. Bye bye bye. So I'm winding

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 1>up my stand up tour. Vaccinated and Horning is coming

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to a screeching halt at the end of the year.

0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I have my last dates coming up, and these are

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the last opportunities. You have to also buy merch from

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the website Chelsea Handler dot com if you want Vaccinating

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and Horning merch or Captain's hats that say We're the

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Captain's now for women only, our t shirts for men

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and your family that say I'm sorry because they should be.

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I only have a few dates left. I'm going to Tucson, Arizona.

0:58:57.000 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>November five is Tucson, November six is Colorado Springs, and

0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 1>then Rockford, Illinois, Minneapolis, Rosemont, Illinois, two shows in Tampa,

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a show in Fort Myers, Florida, Daytona Beach, Hollywood, Florida, Concord,

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire, Wooster, Mass wilkes Berry, Pennsylvania, wilkes Berry Pennsylvania

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:23.800
<v Speaker 1>there I said it, and then San Diego and Riverside, California,

0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and then Baltimore, Maryland, and then my very last date

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>is December six in Reading, Pennsylvania. So this will be

0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the last of me performing listeners. If you are enjoying

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 1>what you're hearing, you can subscribe to Dear Chelsea. That

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<v Speaker 1>is our podcast, and you can rate us if you want. Yeah,

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a great idea. It actually makes a huge difference

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:48.240
<v Speaker 1>for this podcast, for any podcast that you like, Subscribing

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<v Speaker 1>giving it a rating actually make a huge difference in

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0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>subscribe and and and and comment, yeah, and follow. I'm

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