1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Oh. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 3: You know, things got weird sitting in for Doug Gottlieb. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: It's fucking fits. He's Buck rising up, Jason Fitz. They're 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: letting the kids come in and play with the adults 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 3: at the big grown up table. I don't know how 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: we feel about this, Buck. It's gonna be a little interesting. 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: We're gonna be with Fox Sports Radio today. We're gonna 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: be with Fox Sports Radio in the morning. Are we 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: kicked out of the holiday gathering by. 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 4: The end of the week. Only time will tell. But 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: what I know. 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: What I know is that we will not give the 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: grace of time. We will not give the grace of patience. 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: We will not give the grace of just stepping back 21 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: and letting things be when it comes to the Cleveland 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: Browns quarterback situation. And to me, my friend, it is 23 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: the biggest, wildest and grossest storyline in preseason football. 24 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 4: Here's the real headline. 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 3: Fifth round quarterback pick performs well and is still fourth 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: on the depth chart. 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 4: That's it. That's the end of it. 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: But no, it can't be the end of it because 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: it's Shadoor Sanders, and that means the takes are flying everywhere. 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: Buck Rising, Jason Fits hanging out with you for Doug 31 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: Gottlieb on the Doug Gottlieb Show. I'm just tired of it. 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: I'm exhausted. I don't care. You know what, here's the thing. 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm worked up because I'm already hours into my day. 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: Maybe when worked up because you're sitting in Atlanta just 35 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: enjoying wings from a particular establishment. 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm worked up today. 37 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: And I'm worked up because Shador Sanders goes out and 38 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: plays well in a preseason game, which is great. That's awesome. 39 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for that. It's wonderful. Can't it just be that? 40 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: Why does it have to suddenly mean anything else? Because 41 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: I see all of these social media reports telling me, 42 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: oh my god, the Browns don't have a healthy quarterback 43 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: and what are they doing in Shador might not be 44 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: able to play this weekend. And I keep looking around saying, guys, 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns is Joe Flacco, 46 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: and he's fine, He's gonna play week one. All of 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: this is over somebody that's not even gonna play at 48 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: the beginning of the season. 49 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: Why do we care so much? 50 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 5: Well, for the same reason, FITZI that I care to 51 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: get my wings from a strip club in Atlanta as 52 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 5: opposed to from any other establishment in the world, because 53 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 5: sometimes you just gotta have a little extra pizazz on things. 54 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: And Shadoor brings the strip club. I mean you said 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 5: a particular establishment. I don't know what you're scared of. 56 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 5: It's it's Atlanta, baby, People go there for a happy 57 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: hour on a Monday. Magic City, you know the drill. 58 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: But well you're just presumed. 59 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: Look, Cheatahs is better than Magic City, by the way, 60 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if we're talking about the 61 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: wings anymore. 62 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 4: I go ahead, go ahead. 63 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying like, sometimes the presentation is as 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: much as as much a part of the story as 65 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 5: is the actual product itself. And Shadoor, whatever he is 66 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 5: at this particular point in time, which is very much 67 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: fourth on the depth chart of the Cleveland Browns that 68 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 5: seem to have seventeen different quarterbacks flying around the place 69 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 5: at any given point. He presented pretty well. And if 70 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 5: America's only exposure beyond training camp tweets and reports and 71 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 5: things like that is Shador Sanders preseason debut, then how 72 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: could you possibly blame people for trying to detach themselves 73 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 5: for what their eyes are directly seeing, which is a 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: kid that went out there and tore it up and 75 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 5: had way more of a live arm than anybody expected 76 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 5: to Shador Sanders to have and understanding against preseason, and 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 5: they're not scheming things up, and that if you don't 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: look good during preseason, that's a bigger story as we 79 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: could talk about with some of these players, although all 80 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 5: four of the quarterbacks that are largely in the discussion 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: that are most discussed at this point in time seem 82 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: like they had a pretty nice first outing. I'll cover 83 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 5: cam Ward, the number one overall draft pick, tomorrow here 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: in Atlanta against the Falcons, and we'll see how much 85 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: more legs that has. But listen, I cover cam Ward. 86 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: He's spectacularly boring in everything that he does and that's great, 87 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: that's wonderful. That's exactly what a dysfunctional organization like the 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 5: Tennessee Titans needs is somebody to settle him down a 89 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 5: little bit. A twenty three year old that carries himself 90 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 5: like he's thirty three, Shador Sanders is quite the opposite, 91 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 5: and not even from a personality standpoint, because frankly, I 92 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 5: think he's handled a lot of this pretty damn well 93 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: fits but all the things that are surrounding Shador Sanders. 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 6: He grew up on reality TV. 95 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: What is America Love if not a Reality TV with 96 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 5: a with a spinoff that we can continue to follow 97 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 5: in a nationally televised event. And football Reality TV Football 98 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 5: Shador Sanders at the intersection. How could you possibly be 99 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 5: confused as to why people are interested? 100 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: Okay, a couple of things. 101 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: Number One, I feel like I'm not even allowed to say, 102 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: God forbid, like this is a very true story. I 103 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: had a take on Inside Coverage one of my Yahoo shows, 104 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: How to Take last week, and I said, I think 105 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 3: it was lose lose for the Browns to play Shador early, 106 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: And the entirety of my take was it's lose lose 107 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: because if he gets on the field and he's terrible, 108 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: There'll be no grace. And then the other side of 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: it is if he gets on the field and he's 110 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: absolutely lights out, Now the Browns are gonna have to 111 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: spend every day answering questions about their depth chart, why 112 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: they made the decisions they made all of these, why 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: he fell to the fifth. 114 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: That was the entirety of my take. 115 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: Yahoo clipped a portion of that and put it up, 116 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 3: but I was cut off and cut off after the 117 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: if he stinks, there'll be no grace portion of my take, 118 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: for which I have thousands at this point of comments 119 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: that tell me that I'm racist, that I don't know anything, 120 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: that I'm an idiot, that I. 121 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: Don't know how to talk about football. 122 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: All of these different things, all because I said, if 123 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: he doesn't play well, there'll be no grace. Like you 124 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: can't even have a lukewarm opinion about Shadur at this 125 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 3: point without people just deciding that means you are either 126 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: biased by your hatred of Shador or biased by your 127 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: love of shudor so that's already frustrating to me. But 128 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 3: then the bigger part of this is you see a 129 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: team every day in practice, you see bad football team. 130 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: But you see a team every day in practice. We 131 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: know what practice means, We know what meetings mean to 132 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: the organization. Look what we have seen since the draft. 133 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: At the draft, the Cleveland Browns told you that they 134 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: believe Dylan Gabriel was two rounds better, not two picks, 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: not ten picks, two rounds better than Shador Sanders for 136 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: their franchise. For whatever reason, they took Dylan Gabriel in 137 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: the third run. Since then, the reporters I've talked to 138 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: that had been to Brown's practice, it made it clear 139 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: that Dylan Gabriel was breaking down the offense faster, was 140 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: processing things faster, and in general seemed to be ahead 141 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: of him in all things practice related to this. So, 142 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: while you're right, we've had three quarters of chadur on 143 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: the field, we haven't had a single second a Dylan Gabriel. 144 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: On the field. We don't know. 145 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: And the other part of it is, last time I 146 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: tech checked, Kevin Stefanski is a two time Coach of 147 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: the Year. So unless you believe that a two time 148 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: coach of the Year is so eagermaniacal and so full 149 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: of pride and so flat out stupid and bad at 150 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: his job that he will just continue to live some 151 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: wild live so that Shadoor Sanders is held down. The 152 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: reality of it is they believed Shadour was a lesser 153 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: quarterback even when they drafted him than Dylan Gabriel. They 154 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: have since then had months of practice and meetings where 155 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: the greater of the two quarterbacks that they drafted has 156 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: Outside Shadoor, all we have is three quarters of one 157 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: preseason game. 158 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 4: That's all the information we get. 159 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: So I don't understand why everyone thinks that suddenly a 160 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: depth chart is going to change the mind of an 161 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: entire organization that sees him in every meeting, that processes 162 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: everything that happens, in every piece of film, that records 163 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: every practice, that looks back at every sing like we 164 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: have a tenth of the evidence, Like every conspiracy theorist 165 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: that's a dumb ass that's out there telling us something. 166 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: We have a tenth of the evidence without any of 167 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: the full context, and then we make sweeping decisions on 168 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: what it should mean for the future of Shahdhor Sanders. 169 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: Uh, I'm sorry, you mean the same two time Coach 170 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 5: of the Year that was actively living the lie that 171 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: is Deshaun Watson is our starting quarterback, no other questions asked. 172 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: You mean the organization that is propped up that I 173 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 5: even understanding that they are smarter football minds than you 174 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: or I or anybody you know largely out here criticizing 175 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: or taking things in second hand without as much information. 176 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: You mean that coach of the year who basically, you know, 177 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 5: I understand he got a knife in his back, probably 178 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: why he's sitting up there answering press conference questions. But 179 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 5: he's saying, knowing damn well that Deshaun Watson is not 180 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 5: a starting quarterback anymore. Deshawn's are starting quarterback. Deshawn's our 181 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 5: starting quarterback, over and over and over again, trying to 182 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: talk himself into it. It seems it's as much as 183 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 5: he's trying to convince the rest of the world. You 184 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 5: mean that particular organization, I mean, FITZI, in eight out 185 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: of ten situations, you might be You might be onto 186 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 5: something there. This is the Cleveland Brown's baby. They don't 187 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: do things the way that anybody else would do them. 188 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: They do things the Browns way, and that's poorly, and 189 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: that's dysfunctionally. Then that's making a mess of everything. Hell, 190 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 5: they couldn't even get through the draft without making a mess. 191 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 5: They had to take a quarterback in the third round, 192 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 5: take a quarterback in the fifth round, bring in Kenny Pickett, 193 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: sign Joe Laco. 194 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 6: What else did they do? Who did in Snoop Untley 195 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 6: run around Cleveland right now? 196 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 5: So yeah, if we were to apply reasonable logic and 197 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 5: fact based information and apply it to football sensibilities, then yes, 198 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 5: I think you would be onto something here. But that 199 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 5: doesn't apply to the Cleveland Browns organization. 200 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: I do need to point out he's Buck Rising. I'm 201 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: Jason fitz him for Doug Gottlieb on Fox Sports Radio. 202 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: Look at the schedule at the beginning like this. I'm 203 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: screaming this to Chador fans that want to see him 204 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: play Week one. The Browns have like you. 205 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: Just want to scream at Shador fans. It doesn't sound 206 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 5: like you got an issue with Shador. Sound like you 207 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 5: got an issue? Now, I got no issue. 208 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: Look, I want Shador and Dylan Gabriel Poult to win 209 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: starting jobs and make a ton of money, like I 210 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: want every quarterback to succeed. There aren't very many good 211 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the NFL. I want them all to make it. 212 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: But listen, this the beginning. I'm gonna give you the 213 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 3: beginning of the Brown schedule. The Bengals. Okay, fine, then 214 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: they got the Ravens, the Packers, the Lions, the Vikings, 215 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: the Steelers, the Dolphins, the Patriots, Jets, the Ravens again. Like, 216 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: that is not an easy beginning of any of this. Like, 217 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: even if you're sitting here and you're a Chaudour apologist 218 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: and you're saying, somehow, some way he's gonna win this job, 219 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: don't you want to put him in the best situation. 220 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: My thing is the best situation, The best ability for 221 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 3: Schaudur is gonna come from developing the way the coaches 222 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: want him to develop every single day. And that's that's 223 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: not a sexy answer. But I say this to you 224 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: all the time. This ozempic society that we live in 225 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: just drives me crazy. Everybody wants an injection that'll make 226 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: them skinny. Like, hell, if I could, if I could 227 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: go to a doctor today that would give me apps, 228 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 3: I would do it. I understand. It's a hell of 229 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: a lot easier than going to the gym. Every fan 230 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: of a bad franchise wants their Jade and Daniels. They 231 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: want Ozepic that's gonna suddenly fix everything. Most players are 232 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: not CJ. Stroud or Jaden Daniels. So like, I know 233 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: you want o Zempic, but people in hell on Icewater. 234 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes you just gotta do the work the long, painful way, 235 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: which is a process. And I don't think long term 236 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 3: that the Browns have a bad situation going here. They 237 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: have all year to figure out if Dylan Gabriel should 238 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: do or is the answer from what they see every 239 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: single day, and if he's not, they can draft a 240 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: different quarterback next year because they're not going to be 241 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: very good. I just don't see why there's a rush 242 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 3: to put Schadeur on the on the field when frankly, 243 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: that just undermines the entire process and there is no 244 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: logic behind why it should happen. Like again, this is 245 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: the same team that drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round. 246 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: We don't have the benefit of knowing what Dylan Gabriel 247 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: looked like in the first preseason game. 248 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: We haven't seen that yet. 249 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 5: So you're talking about specifically from the fans who are 250 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 5: in a rush to see him get out on the field. 251 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think the organization fans in media. 252 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: I don't think the organization is any I believe this 253 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: media stuff and I and I have a tremendous amount 254 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: of respect for Lewis Riddick, but like this whole set 255 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: of setting him up to fail, uh narrative that's being propositioned. 256 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 5: As far as the Chador Sanders stuff goes, I is 257 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 5: craziness to me. And I'm as skeptical of the Browns 258 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 5: as anybody understandably, so they're bad at this, they deserve skepticism. 259 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: I think the thing that will be the most telling 260 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 5: is what we have to wait, you know, the better 261 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: part of a month to find out, little less than 262 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: a month by the time Week one rolls around when 263 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 5: the Browns open things up with the Bengals. As you mentioned, 264 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 5: if Joe Flacco is the starting quarterback, then the Browns 265 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 5: are making the right decision, even if at some point 266 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 5: there is absolutely value in finding out what you have 267 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 5: in either Shador Sanders or Dylan Gabriel. At some point 268 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 5: in the season, Joe Flacco is gonna give you the 269 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 5: best opportunity to win Week one, no matter which of 270 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 5: those three specifically you're talking about, respectfully to Snowpuntling, if 271 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 5: they roll either of the rookies out there and should 272 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 5: or you know, will be greeted with more fanfare and 273 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 5: more pressure and more coverage and all these other things. 274 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 5: And I'm sure the raiding on that Browns Carolina preseason 275 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 5: game was ungodly. 276 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: I didn't I have two people, that's disgusting. 277 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 6: Shame on all of you. 278 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: Really, go do something with your day like that's a 279 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 5: shame on all of you, really. And I'm an NFL reporter, Okay, 280 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 5: I know as long as there's football, there's money. But god, guys, 281 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 5: it's a preseason anyway. 282 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 6: If they roll either. 283 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 5: One of those rookies out there in Week one against 284 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 5: the Bengals, then you know it's the same old Browns 285 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 5: because there is logic and reason in giving the veteran, 286 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 5: putting the veteran out there who's going to give you 287 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 5: the best chance to succeed, and allowing for that process 288 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 5: to take place behind him on the depth chart, even 289 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 5: if you plan at some point to pull Joe Flacco 290 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 5: out of the lineup and see what you got in 291 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 5: the other two. If they roll with either of those 292 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 5: two rookies, they will have succumbed to some level of 293 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 5: pressure whether it's external from the media or the fan base, 294 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: whether it is internal from the ownership, who's publicly distancing 295 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 5: himself from Shador Jimmy Haslm, And I've never heard Jimmy 296 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 5: Haslm talk this much in an offseason. So all of 297 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: a sudden, Jimmy Haslm turn into Jerry Jones. He can't 298 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 5: get away from a microphone. But if there is some 299 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 5: level of pressure that they are succumbing to, we will 300 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: know it very quickly, and then it'll be I mean, 301 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: I'm I would be And I've said this before to you, 302 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 5: and I've said this before when we've done the Fox 303 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 5: stuff together. I would at that point hope for Kevin 304 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: Stefanski to be fired. Not because I think he's a 305 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 5: bad coach or a bad person or anything like that. 306 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 5: I just want him out of the Browns organization because 307 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: he is a two time Coach of the Year and 308 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: he deserves better. 309 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 6: This is nonsense, absolute nonsense. 310 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: All right, from one nonsensical story to another. 311 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: Schitur. I don't know why we care. He's not gonna 312 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: start Week one. The real question is will Micah Parsons 313 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: will break down the latest greatest drama from Jerry Jones. 314 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: That's right, it's today, which means we got more Micah drama. 315 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: We'll tell you about it next. He's Buck Rising. I'm 316 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: Jason Fitz. We're in for Doug Gottlieb on Fox Sports Radio. 317 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. 318 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to 319 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 320 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox 321 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 322 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 323 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I think fireworks kind of overrated. I'll 324 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: be honest, Like it's really the sweaty crowds. 325 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: Like there's just a lot of bunch sweat throughout the 326 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: course of this, like especially down in the South where 327 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: everybody's it's just hot and humid and like in. 328 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: Fact and just yeah, there's a lot of that. Are 329 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: you are you a pro? 330 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 6: Tell you fireworks cout? I hate fireworks. I think they're 331 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 6: giant pain in the ass. 332 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 5: I think that there is not a more overrated way 333 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: of celebrating in this world than the shooting off of fireworks. 334 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: Bro It takes me two hours to get in a 335 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 5: situation for me to properly see the fireworks. It is 336 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: such a pain in the ass for like seven minutes 337 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 5: of actual payoff. 338 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: That's right, it's bucket fits hanging out with it for 339 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb. We're trying to d out to a brand 340 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: new YouTube channel for the show. 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Buck is down in Atlanta. 350 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: I am sitting Connecticut right now, and one thing I 351 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: know is that neither of us are in the I 352 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: don't know, Sea of Drama, the absolute wasteland known as 353 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: Dallas right now, where every day everything is more complicated 354 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: with the cowboys and the most complicated recent edition years. 355 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: I love that a reporter actually tried to hold Jerry 356 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: Jones accountable, asking Jerry if they've spoken, and the answer 357 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: was no, and it was like, well why not? And 358 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: Jerry didn't have a good answer for it, and Buck, 359 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: I just I keep thinking, this is ugly, and this 360 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: is like, this is to me. If you've ever had 361 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: friends that have gone through a brutal breakup, you know 362 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: one thing you know during that breakup is that you're 363 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: gonna go to dinner with one of those friends and 364 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: they're going to spend the whole time being like, well, 365 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: he was the worst at this and I hated that, and. 366 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: You're gonna be a good friend. 367 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: You're gonna sit there and be like, you know what, 368 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: I know, he is the worst at all of these things. 369 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: And then, like I don't know, three months later, they 370 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: get back together and all of a sudden, you see 371 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: him at dinner and he's looking at you the whole time, 372 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: knowing what you said about him. 373 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: You know. It's this weird thing you learn as you 374 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: get older that when your. 375 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: Friend sit you down to talk to talk about their breakup, 376 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: you just never take a side anymore. Right, Like we 377 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: don't have that grace here. You've got a really public 378 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: dispute from Jerry's end because he's always in front of 379 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: a microphone. My guy's never seen a microphone. He doesn't 380 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: want to sit down in front of him talk. So 381 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: now I feel like we're just constantly mommy and Daddy 382 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: are fighting and we're getting the story. And what's really 383 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: gonna be weird is week one, when I believe Michael 384 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: will be on the field, He'll be very rich, and 385 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: he'll still be playing for the Cowboys. 386 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 5: The only thing that was ugly or is that face 387 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 5: you made while you were trying to suppress a burp 388 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 5: whilst whilst simultaneously telling people, did that Doug got leaves 389 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 5: YouTube channel? 390 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: You know what, I was pretty proud of that I 391 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: managed to hold it back. I didn't, you know, I 392 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: felt like that was professional. 393 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: Okay, not here. 394 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: I could hear the burp struggling, trying to fight its 395 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 5: way out of your body, And you know it's if 396 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 5: I wasn't looking directly at which we're not on YouTube today, 397 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: are we got helpless? 398 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 3: If we are, no, no, no, no, no, We're not 399 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: on YouTube today, nobody's going to see you eat your 400 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: Strip Club Wings, which I found out during the break 401 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: that Buck Rising actually whober Eats edidher you used Uber 402 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: Eats to get Strip Club Wings delivered to your hotel 403 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 3: room in Atlanta. 404 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about that, Like. 405 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: That doesn't feel like that's normal, Like usually efficiency, there 406 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: was no like I don't know Buffalo Wild Wings or 407 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: Wings Stop or any other wing place that was closer. 408 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: You're really telling me that, minus all of the other 409 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: accouterments that come with Strip Club Wings, that you still 410 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 3: chose Strip Club Wings. 411 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 5: Yes, by a mile, the Yanish City, Lemon pepper, honey, 412 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: gold combination side of fries, and a lovely coke that 413 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 5: I've got in front of me, And at the risk 414 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 5: of offending any Wing Wing Stop or Buffalo Wild Wings 415 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 5: sponsors that Fox Sports Radio may have, I'm sure those 416 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: are lovely establishments with lovely fair but the Strip Club 417 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 5: Wings in Atlanta are superior to any other Wings that 418 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 5: you will find anywhere else in the country, including Buffalo. 419 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 6: So I largely agree with your point. 420 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 5: Though about Michael Parsons, I think he is going to 421 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 5: be a Dallas cowboy, and I think he's going to 422 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 5: be very, very well paid and They're just gonna stuff 423 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 5: is face full of money, like I stuffed my face 424 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 5: full of strip Club wings before the show began today. 425 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 6: And everybody will be happy as a result. 426 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 5: But uh, I think here is there are a couple 427 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 5: of things that have to be kept at the front 428 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 5: of your mind. Did you see Jerry Jones's interview on 429 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 5: the red carpet of this Netflix special that they're running 430 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 5: on the Cowboys? Have you seen this audio, this video 431 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 5: floating around where? And I don't want to put words 432 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 5: in Jerry's mouth, so god knows, I really couldn't if 433 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: I tried. He says more more inflammatory things than either 434 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: of us could even imagine that he would say. But 435 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 5: he basically, I mean he didn't. Basically he did. He 436 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 5: copped to the idea of, yeah, if things get slow 437 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 5: conversationally around our football team, it is better for people 438 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 5: to talk about our football team. So I will stir 439 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 5: things up so that people are talking about our football team. 440 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: And Jerry's maybe never been quite that blatant with it, 441 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 5: and we've always just kind of assumed that that's what 442 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 5: Jerry Jones does because of the behavior, in the pattern 443 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 5: of behavior that he's stuck to. His entire career, but 444 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 5: it's it's the first time that you've really had Jerry 445 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 5: on record with the quiet part out loud. And so 446 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 5: this Michael Parson's contract dispute situation is the latest example 447 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 5: of that. But the thing here is FITZI in a 448 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 5: generation of social media athletes and athletes who are you know, 449 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 5: their screen time is somewhere between eight to ten hours 450 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 5: a day where they are reading everything about them, whether 451 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 5: it's actual, whether it's factual, or whether it's just stuff 452 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: on the internet. 453 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 6: Like OBJ, you see what happened. 454 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: Odell Beckham Junior got got by the fake shifter and 455 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 5: he's you know, he's freaking out on Twitter because he 456 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: didn't bother to verify whether that was the verified Adam 457 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 5: Schefter reporting his retirement or not. And there was a 458 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 5: whole thing on Obj's timeline about this thing that wasn't real. 459 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 5: It's very easy for this generation of athletes to get 460 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: spun out and for a lot of that to be irreparable. Now, 461 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 5: money is the answer to most of your problems, if 462 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 5: not all of your problems, or at least the answer 463 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 5: to all of your questions. Not your problems. Doesn't solve everything, 464 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: but it can solve a great deal a great many things. 465 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 5: Maybe there is enough money in the world in the 466 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys pocketbook, if we're still doing pocketbooks in the 467 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: year twenty twenty five, to just shut Micah up with 468 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 5: the sheer amount of money that they're going to pay him. 469 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: But I can't help but think that a more judicious 470 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 5: organization would not put themselves in a position where they 471 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 5: just have to shovel over money hand over fist just 472 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 5: to keep an athlete happy, rather than going through a 473 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 5: contract negotiation that is not just handshakes and glory holes 474 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: and whatever else. Jerry Jones wants to confuse glory holes 475 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 5: in the oil man sense, of course, which is something, 476 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 5: by the way, a term that he likes to use 477 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 5: a great deal, But I felt I had to clarify 478 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 5: given the level of strip club discourse today, I think 479 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 5: that there are just so many avoidable pitfalls that Jerry 480 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 5: just can't help but step in the middle of. If 481 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 5: for no other reason that people are going to talk 482 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 5: about the pitfalls that Jerry Jones are stepping in, and 483 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 5: that drives further conversation and interest in this football team, 484 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 5: which is insane. It's an insane way of doing things, 485 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 5: but it seems to work for Jerry. 486 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you're right. 487 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: We all have that friend that walks into a party 488 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: and sees two people standing next to each other that 489 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: they know are on different sides of a political issue 490 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 3: or whatever, and they'll immediately make an inflammatory statement just 491 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: to watch the entire house burn down as they leave. 492 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 4: Like that. 493 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 3: We all have that friend. That friend just happened one 494 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: hundred percent. That's why I was looking at you. That 495 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: friend just happens to be like the problematic grandpa version 496 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: of it, which is Jerry Jones. 497 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 4: It's interesting. 498 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: I do think there's one long term concern about the 499 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: solution of money with Micah Parsons. 500 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast. 501 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to 502 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 503 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsportsradio 504 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 505 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 506 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 3: Another weekend of NFL preseason football is upon us, and 507 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna make mistakes. Why because you're gonna put value 508 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: into it. And this is your annual reminder that no 509 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: matter how starved you are for football, no matter how 510 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: desperate you are to see your favorite team, no matter 511 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: how much you want to turn what you see this 512 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: weekend into something big, the fact is none of it matters. 513 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 3: And I don't fault you for watching it. I'll watch it, 514 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: we'll watch it. We're all fans, but we're better if 515 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: we just acknowledge before we even get into the weekend 516 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: that none of it means anything. 517 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason fitz hanging out with him. Buck, 518 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not a nihilist. 519 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: Hell, I'm not smart enough to really know what anihlist is. 520 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: I had to look it up when somebody called me 521 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: a nihilist, So like, I get it. Like I'm not 522 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: a nothing matters person. I'm genuinely not. I'm a logic person. 523 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: So for me, I like everything to stack together. 524 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: And it's fine. 525 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: I'm one of those people that if you want to 526 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: sit down and explain to me the why and the how, 527 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 3: I desperately want to listen to it. But also if 528 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: you want to tell me nothing and just tell me 529 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: I have to deal with it, that's okay too. I 530 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: don't need to try and like make a big deal 531 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: out of absolutely anything, which is why it's funny that 532 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: I do this for a limis sometimes because everything's a 533 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: big deal. 534 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: I just am so. 535 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: To me, it's so clear the preseason football is completely 536 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: and totally meaningless in every possible way. There is no 537 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: takeaway that matters in preseason football at all other than health. 538 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: Health. 539 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: I'll buy all day long, every other ounce of it. 540 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: If somebody's great, well it's because they were playing a 541 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: vanilla defense against the vanilla office and they weren't asked 542 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 3: to do anything. If somebody's terrible, it's because well they 543 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: were playing, you know, to try try and take chances. 544 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks gotta take chances in preseason and practice, so none 545 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: of it matters. 546 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: Like we get a small glimpse. 547 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: This weekend into the second weekend of pro football for 548 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: the preseason, and all I keep thinking is why, Like 549 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: I guess I'm at that spot now where I would 550 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: just rather we only watch backups and no single like, 551 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: no starters play, and it's all just a bunch of 552 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: you know, it's practice squad guys. Try now, because we're 553 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: desperate for football, we want to watch it. I want 554 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 3: to watch the Raiders play the forty nine ers this weekend. 555 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: But if they win sixty to nothing or they lose 556 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: sixty to nothing, it won't mean a damn thing for 557 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: Week one. 558 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 6: Well, I disagree. 559 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 5: It depends on what context that you're looking for here, 560 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 5: because I so from your perspective, you are viewing it 561 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 5: on television as a football fan, and as a football fan, 562 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 5: you will try not you specifically, but anybody who just 563 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 5: is watching as a casual fan is just desperate for football. 564 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: God to help you. Degenerates that are actually betting on 565 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: this stuff, and I know plenty of you are. 566 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 6: Sick. 567 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just it's absolutely it's a disease that 568 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 5: you have if you're betting on preseason football. Though I 569 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 5: respect it. 570 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 6: It is uh. 571 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 5: It has great meaning though for the people on the 572 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 5: rosters trying to make it. It has great meaning for 573 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 5: the success or failure of a season if you're looking 574 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: down a depth chart. And for example, so I cover 575 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 5: a team for a living, like that's that's my day job. 576 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 5: I cover the Tennessee Titans for people that don't know 577 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 5: us or being introduced to us, or may have heard 578 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 5: us in passing or whatever, Like we don't just talk 579 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 5: on the radio for a living, like I cover a team, 580 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 5: I go to practice. I'm here in Atlanta covering joint 581 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 5: training camp practices with the Tennessee Titans and the Atlanta Falcons, 582 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 5: and I will see a preseason game tomorrow that I 583 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 5: will have to extract meaning from, not because I have to, 584 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 5: but because there is meaning to be extracted from it. Fitzy, 585 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 5: It's like Tidies have a second round pass rusher that 586 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 5: you've probably never heard of unless you're a die hard 587 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 5: Pac twelve guy, or I guess technically a Big ten 588 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 5: guy because U see La is now in the Big ten. 589 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 5: Femi Olodeesa second round pick off ball linebacker that they're 590 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 5: converting to edge guys, played like nine games as a 591 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 5: pass rusher and they drafted him in the second round 592 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: off traits and tools. Okay, I'm watching a guy get 593 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 5: stonewalled by the Falcons backup tackle and trying to figure out, 594 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: all right, did they make a mistake in the second round? 595 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 5: What is the logic here behind drafting this player where 596 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 5: they did, knowing that it was going to be a 597 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 5: project on a staff by the way, that finished three 598 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 5: and fourteen last year and will be fired because their 599 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 5: ownership can't be trusted to allow things to play out, 600 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 5: even though they continue to preach as a front office 601 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 5: patients over panic and all these different things. So I 602 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 5: have to sit there and talk to and get to 603 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 5: sit there and talk to football people about all right, 604 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 5: what should I be looking for in a preseason game 605 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: from this player? What kind of situations are you trying 606 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 5: to put him in? What is he struggling with right now? 607 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 5: Why is he defaulting to his traits rather than applying 608 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 5: the technique that I see him practicing all week in practice, 609 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 5: But all of a sudden he just loses it when 610 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: he gets in the preseason game and he tries to 611 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 5: win based on tools as opposed to skill. Like, the 612 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 5: development of these players matters a great deal to the 613 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 5: long term, long term success as you're building up a franchise. 614 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 5: Titans couldn't be more of a rebuild than they are 615 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 5: right now. There's plenty of organizations, I mean your Raiders. 616 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 5: I know the Raiders are doing it a bit differently 617 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: with a thirty five or thirty four year old quarterback 618 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 5: and a seventy three year old head coach, but there 619 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 5: are things here that will give them success or cause 620 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 5: them to not achieve their success based on what you're 621 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 5: seeing the lessons that they are trying to apply as 622 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 5: football people on their football team. Now, if you don't 623 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 5: care about that crap, and you just want to know 624 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 5: why the you know, why the Chiefs didn't cover the 625 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 5: spread in Week five or something like that, that's not 626 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 5: going to matter to you. But if you're actually trying 627 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 5: to learn about the things that these football coaches and 628 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 5: front office people and scouts are trying to evaluate in 629 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 5: real time, then there is great value. 630 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 6: But it's granular. It's very, very. 631 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 5: Granular, And I don't know how many people actually care 632 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 5: about the granular as opposed to just give me football. 633 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 5: Why are you telling me these things don't matter. Why 634 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 5: won't this quarterback stop throwing interceptions? 635 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 4: I think there's an in Beach line on that somewhere. 636 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 4: I just looked it up. 637 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: Max Crosby didn't get his first sack in the NFL 638 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: until his fifth game, five games. Crazy, I mean, so 639 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: when you think about it, I just these are the 640 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: moments that I yell and scream. I hear you, right, 641 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: I understand that we all do. Every fan I'm talking 642 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: here as a voice of the fan I think one 643 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: thing that I've always looked at from my microphone is 644 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: I got to where I am because of my fandom, 645 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: and it's something that I was able to turn into 646 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: a career. So I love speaking to the fans, and 647 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: I understand that we all have a player or two 648 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: that we fall in love with during training camp that 649 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: we just whether it's because we play the video game 650 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: and like that is our guy. There's a period in 651 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: my life where I decided that Marquez Tuiasa Sopo was 652 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: gonna be the future quarterback of my beloved Raiders, and 653 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: I was convinced. 654 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: I was convinced. So every time there was a. 655 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: Preseason games, like, I gotta see what Tuwi does, because 656 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: this one's gonna be Tuiasa Sopo's gonna be the man. 657 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: This is what we all do. You're right, there are 658 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: granular things that you can learn, and certainly when you 659 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: see over arching problems, sometimes it can be a little 660 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: bit of an eyebrow raiser. But the first month of 661 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: the NFL season is so wild. Like I do like 662 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: to bet on football games, I no longer bet on 663 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: the NFL in the first two weeks of the season 664 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: at all. There is not a bet I will place 665 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: the first two weekends of the season. Why because I've 666 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: decided over the last couple of years that all you're 667 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: doing is throwing good money at bad Because most of 668 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: these teams don't actually play their starters much in the 669 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: course of the preseason. All of a sudden, they don't 670 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: really have anything that's out there for you. Everything's gonna 671 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: look rusty, it's gonna look disjointed the first couple of weeks. 672 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 4: Like, guess what. 673 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: This is terrible analysis for most of you, but I 674 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: think it's the most honest thing you'll ever hear about 675 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: the beginning of the NFL team season. Your team might 676 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: win a couple of games in the beginning of the 677 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 3: year or lose a couple of games in the beginning 678 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: of the year that they shouldn't because they just weren't 679 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: ready to start the season. Like everything is so chaotic 680 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year that to me, I 681 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: don't think you really have a set s. They always 682 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: say in baseball, you don't really know who your team 683 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: is gonna be until you hit the beginning of June. 684 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: I think in modern NFL games, even though there's only 685 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: seventeen of them over eighteen weeks. I think it takes 686 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: the first four weeks of the season to figure out 687 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: where you are, so I genuinely truly put no weight. 688 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: Now you're in practice every day, so I do think 689 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: there is waight to hey, in practice, I saw this, 690 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: you know. 691 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 4: I'll go back to my fanom of the Raiders. 692 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: There is an offensive line battle going on right now 693 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: between Meredith and JPJ that nobody expected was gonna happen, 694 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: and so all of a sudden that does become interesting. 695 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: How it looks in a preseason game is going to 696 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: be over evaluated. But for most of us that are 697 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: just watching the preseason game, I don't think again to 698 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: go back to what we talked about with Shaduur versus 699 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel, I don't think we have enough context, like 700 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: you have context on the Titans and on the Falcons, 701 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: because you're seeing the both in practice this week, and 702 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: what you see on tomorrow's preseason game or Saturday tomorrow's 703 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: preseason game, that's going to be a translation of what 704 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: you saw in joint practices. That is valuable and that's why, honestly, 705 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: people that care about the Titans should listen to you 706 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: when you talk about it, because you can offer your 707 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: insights on that. I think there's tremendous power that. I 708 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: don't think that there's tremendous any in watching the number 709 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: of times I have seen a wide receiver none of 710 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: us has ever heard of that's listed at five to ten, 711 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: that's really five to seven. Have the led the preseason 712 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: in yardage and catches and then he gets inevitably cut 713 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: in the last cut, and the fan base loses their 714 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: damn minds apoplectic. How could you cut that guy? And 715 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: it's like, I don't even remember who that guy is 716 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 3: three years but that's how the preseason is. 717 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 5: I've got one here. Xavier Restreppo, he's cam Ward's buddy, 718 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 5: rights he led. He broke the program franchise receptions record 719 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 5: in a game that I in fact watched rewatched last 720 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 5: night because it just happened to be on ESPN. You 721 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 5: Louisville at Miami. Xavier Restreppo broke Michael Irvin's receptions record 722 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: at Miami, which is crazy. Guy is practiced quite the best. 723 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 5: But fan bases will attach themselves to these things because 724 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 5: it's more fun and easier, and it does nothing wrong 725 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 5: with it. In attaching yourself to those storylines and creating 726 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 5: whatever narratives you want to create, whatever you think should 727 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 5: be done with your respective football team, in this case, 728 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: specific to football in the preseason versus what actually is 729 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 5: going on with the talent evaluators and the coaches who 730 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 5: see them every day and in the meeting rooms, which 731 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 5: is additional context that we don't have that matters a 732 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 5: great deal in terms of can they learn the playbook? 733 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 5: Are they retaining all these things? Are they retaining these things, 734 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 5: but can they actually implement them in practice or game 735 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 5: type situations. All this kind of stuff that is far 736 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 5: less interesting to talk about than should the Brown start 737 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: Shador Sanders week one? 738 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: You know? 739 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 6: And that's there's a place for that too. 740 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 5: I don't want to be dismissive of that fan that 741 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 5: approach by certain segments of fan bases, because that is 742 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 5: also fair dialogue, Like you should be able to have 743 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 5: a half baked opinion and argue about it with your 744 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 5: buddies if that's what you want to do for fun. 745 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 5: I'm not here to deprive you of that. I'm just 746 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 5: here to offer you more context if you would like it. 747 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 5: If you would like more context, I here to help you. 748 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 5: If you are not interested in more context, that's fine. 749 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 5: I'll probably yell at you on the radio about it. 750 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 5: But you know, ebbs and flows with all these things. 751 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 5: The other part of this is before you make whatever 752 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: points you're going to make, and I'm sure it's an 753 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 5: important one. I think there should be a preseason MVP. 754 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 5: I think that we should we should give these guys 755 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 5: their moment in the sun. I think that that would 756 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 5: make the dialogue even dumber. I think that people would 757 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 5: assign great value to the preseason MVP. Look at me, 758 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 5: he's disgusted. You could if we were on the Doug 759 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 5: Gottlieb YouTube channel today, which you can subscribe to wherever 760 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 5: you are consuming Doug Gottlieb shows. But I want a 761 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 5: preseason MVP at least just to keep fans interested for 762 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 5: for a longer period of time other than checking out 763 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 5: halfway through the second quarter. 764 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: Look, that is the worst idea you've ever had, Almost 765 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 3: as bad as the inn seed whatever, the n season 766 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: tournament that the Lakers won once and then they actually 767 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: discussed whether or not they were going to put that 768 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: trophy up, Like, I mean, it wasn't my idea. I mean, no, no, no, 769 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: but I mean that that's that's a lettle of stupid 770 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 3: you're proposing. Okay, all that to say, I'm so floored 771 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: by the stupidity of that. 772 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 4: I will just say this a