WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 10/26: Resetting Expectations After the Win, 3 Up/Down from Bills, Dolphins Preview and Key Matchups 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.880 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:08.680 Lazar and Alex Barth. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:10.680 Blazar and Lazarre. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.080 Hell, everybody nailed it. Joined us always by our bar. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:19.920 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Barr. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.400 The general sense or feeling that I get around the 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.040 team right now. This is not a report, So Dov 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.840 climbing like, don't don't hit me with the I'm just 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:29.160 telling you. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.280 Was always king telling you what I'm feeling as a 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:44.600 person that's around the team quite a bit. Catch Catch. 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:47.360 What What's going on? Everybody a new time, New time 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:52.279 morel a ten am. Patriots Catch twenty two And this 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.360 might be a permanent time for us Barth because the. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.720 Patriots of the regular city. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.800 Yeah, the Patriots have decided to change up the locker 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:03.160 room schedule a little bit, and so because of that, 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.720 we we have moved into the mornings so that Alex 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.800 and I can go and uh and do our our 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.200 our day jobs, as I like to call him, and 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.760 actually you know, talk to some people and cover the 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.760 team and you know, do some some big jay journalism potentially, 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.319 I don't know, I don't I don't think we do 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.720 much of that, but we try I mean, you. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.760 Were all hot and bothered about the thing I wrote 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.160 about punting the ball off the scoreboard in Dallas. That 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.280 was as close as journalism as like. Yet meanwhile, that 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.840 game ended up that ended up being an afterthought. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:35.119 Yeah, yeah that that was not a factor in that game. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.920 But what is a factor? And I want to talk 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.640 about this off the top from a big picture since, 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.000 but the Patriots won a football game, Alex, on Sunday. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.800 I don't know if you if you heard the Patriots 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.240 won a football game on Sunday against the Bills, a 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:55.160 twenty nine point offensive breakthrough. Can we can we call 0:01:55.200 --> 0:02:00.600 it that offensive coming out part signs of life life? 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.960 So maybe that's that's where we're at. And I think that, uh, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.720 you know, my my initial thoughts on it. And on Tuesday, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.720 you know, I'm damned if I do damned if I don't, Alex, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.920 because I I have been negative for five weeks, six 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.520 weeks of the season, rightfully, so at one in five 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.760 and you know they're too negative, YadA, YadA, YadA. Then 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.680 then I give everybody their flowers on Tuesday for beating 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.240 the Bills a game they haven't won in like five years, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.000 like literally, and uh. And and now I you know, 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.600 too positive a fair weather fans that the other thing, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.560 all right, whatever the point is is, h I think 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.000 that this is one of the hardest things about being 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:47.040 so entrenched in the Patriots world and having to cover 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.800 the team on a day to day basis, in a 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:53.160 week to week basis, is that it's very difficult even 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.920 for for us to not ride the wave of the season, right, Like, 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.760 when they lose, it's everybody stinks and everybody should be fired. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.280 And when they win, it's so well, playoffs back on 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.160 and there's a path and you know five and five 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.080 at the buy is in play, and like all you know, 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.160 all that type of stuff that we talked about on Tuesday, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.160 And that's difficult. And I think what the most important 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.200 thing that Sunday taught me, and you know, just looking 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.480 myself in the mirror and say, hey, you got to 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.720 be better about this a little bit, is that you 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.320 have to see the long game here, right, And I 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:32.240 think we all we all recognize that this team has flaws. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:37.080 We all recognize that the team building philosophy of this 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:41.000 regime and its current state has flaws. Based off of 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.960 what we've seen in the first seven games of the season, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.400 and one win doesn't completely abolish them from all the 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.200 things that have gotten us here. But at the same time, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.760 we have to wait, unfortunately, I think, until we make 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.400 a final declaration on the coach and you want to 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.640 call them the g to you know, Belichick just in general, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.000 Mac Jones, the whole operation, until we get to January 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.680 and we see what the record is and how the 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.320 season looked, and you know, I think it's beyond just 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.560 wins and losses. It's also just how it feels and 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.599 how it looks, and how they play and things like that. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.800 And right now we're in the roller coaster. We're on 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.640 the roller coaster ride. But at the same time, we 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.159 got to be able to see the forest through the 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.839 trees sometimes. And that's where I'm kind of at right now, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.560 is you know, resetting the state of the Patriots a 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.080 little bit off the top here, and how much does 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.000 this win against the Bills, which again is a game 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.839 just in terms of the way that it unfolded, and 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.600 also the fact that it's the Bills. They haven't won 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.560 this game in three or four years, really since Brady 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:51.360 in nineteen So how does this change your overall outlook 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.719 of the team moving forward. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.880 So everything you just said about you know, we gotta 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.120 ride the wave and things are gonna change, we gotta 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.240 do a show today. Well, here's the thing, I don't know. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.200 I don't know that I learned anything. And here's what 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.040 I mean by that. Here's what I mean by that. Okay, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.000 what did they change? What was different in this game 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.080 that they suddenly won? Mike and went who played right 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.080 tackle to Mario Douglas, played a significant amount of game. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.880 They used their pass rushers as pass rushers and their 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:25.799 coverage players as coverage players. They ran the ball. Who's 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:30.200 been talking about if you start doing some of the well, 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.560 it can be collective. It's both of us. But I'm saying, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:38.320 like when when we were out of camp in the 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.919 summer and we were you know, we were coming on 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.520 here saying, hey, you know there's something here, and we're 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.240 getting calls in YouTube coming. Oh no, it's three win team. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.800 It's a four win team, and all those people are 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.000 trying to take the victory lap. Right earlier in the 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.480 season when we said this is you know, an eight 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.880 nine win team, they'll push for a playoff spot. This 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.680 is the team we saw. This is the team we 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:03.080 were talking about. Now, I'm not saying like everything. I 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.960 don't think mikeun Winn, who could have been playing right 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:06.719 tackle all season. I know he was hurt. He didn't play. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.320 I know he couldn't write yeah tomorrow. Douglas had concussion 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.240 and also just is a rookie year and he's a 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:12.880 rookie and they have to you know, they shouldn't have. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.160 They were a little too aggressive, was sitting him down 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.960 after the fumble. But I understand easing him in two 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.760 Like I get these things. But it's not like they 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:25.200 came out. Did they do anything on Sunday that you 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.880 watched and were like, wow, what a what a wrinkle? Yeah, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:29.880 couldn't have seen that coming. 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.440 You did not couldn't see it coming. But I thought 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.920 that they went in the first five weeks of the 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.279 season and this really started at after the half in Vegas, 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.400 Like I would say this really started in the third 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.680 and fourth quarter against the Raiders. They just they didn't 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.760 make the changes on the offensive line, and they didn't 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.760 have they didn't have pop right it he was out 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.760 with the concussion. So those two combinations made it so 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.920 that it wasn't quite as good as what we saw 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.000 on Sunday against Buffalo. But I would say that the 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:04.080 biggest change, and this is why I've been giving so 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.000 much praise to Bill O'Brien and the game plan and 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.160 the play calling on Sunday, the biggest change was this 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.640 the way they played offense. Like they they went from 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.040 they went from me screaming about how archaic they are 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.920 on offense and they're just running the ball up the 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.600 middle with no window dressing and no motion and no 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.960 thread of an RPO or play action or anything, to 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.560 all of a sudden, now they they that opening drive 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.760 where you know against Buffalo, I know they only got 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.360 a field goal out of it, but just the way 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.280 they moved the football, they look like the Miami Dolphins. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.160 Like they come out and first play they're they're motioning 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.640 Douglas and throwing the ball to him in the flat. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.680 The next play they're they're building off that motion and 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.800 they're running the ball off motion, and then they're bootlegging 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.800 and hitting Faroh Brown for on the on the boot 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.720 action and it's like, oh, like, what whose offense is this? 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.560 Like where did this come from? So I think my 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.760 biggest takeaway from that on an offensive perspective, and this 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.800 is what I think you're kind of getting at is 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.120 I think they were always building up to this point. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.160 So that's kind of my point. And I'm not sitting 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.320 here saying, oh, they should have used that game plan 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.040 like the first seven weeks this season. I get they 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.640 couldn't for various reasons, so they probably could have done 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:18.840 it more than they did. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.000 But I did try it. I just don't think that 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.400 the effectiveness of it was anywhere near as good. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.520 In some maybe, but I this is the offense you're 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.360 expecting them to run the whole time. Rights That's kind 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.760 of my point. It's like, hey, the stuff we talked 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.520 about this summer when we were optimistic is still there. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.920 It took them a while to get to it. For 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.920 various injuries, coaching decisions, other stuff. It took them a 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.480 while to get to it. But the stuff that I'm 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.800 sitting there, it's, you know, the Leo DiCaprio meeting where 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.400 he's porting at the TV. That was me is like 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.320 seeing the Patriots, seeing the training camp Patriots show up 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.240 in late October and it's like whoa, yeah, there they are. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.960 That's kind of what this game was for me. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.840 Yeah, I just I think The main thing that you 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.959 saw that was so so different about it is how 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.280 much window dressing the offense has. And when I talk 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.880 about you know, you're talking about motion, right, Like whether 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.520 you're actually giving the ball to the player in motion 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.800 or he's just running across the formation as a threat 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:27.400 of getting the football. Either way, it's manipulating the defense. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.480 It's causing some sort of chain reaction in the defense, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.600 whether it's a communication thing or it's you know, moving 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.120 bodies literally of like, okay, we're in man coverage, so 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.679 now we have to follow the player in motion, which 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.040 makes this a three receiver side and now that's a 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.600 two receiver side. And it just changes the picture for 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.800 the defense. And it does it instantly at the snap, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.400 So you have to do this on the fly and 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.880 there's no real pre snap time to communicate how we're 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.680 going to handle this, and Buffalo had a really difficult time. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:03.240 I felt like, not just handling the motion itself, but 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.480 then also handling the chain reaction as a result of 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.960 the motion. And that was what I really took away 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.160 from this game was how much they are motioning, how 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.520 much they are running RPO now, how much they are 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.120 sequencing the motion into the run game, like that very 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.280 first form Andre carry that goes for fourteen yards. Like 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.080 there's orbit, then there's misdirection in the blocking scheme, and 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.840 there's all these different moving parts, And like I said, 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.160 it looked like the San Francisco forty nine ers, Like 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.400 there's just so much different things going on. And I 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.480 think from Bill O'Brien's perspective, you mentioned the injuries and 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.959 the guys that have been out and the offensive line 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.800 and things like that, I think that they were always 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.400 trying to get to this point, and I think it 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.920 was always going to take time because these types of 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:53.040 offenses that run their system like this, it doesn't happen overnight. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:53.960 You have to build up. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.360 I guess where I come from with that. Remember at 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:57.760 the end of camp they were talking about how they 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.160 were like ahead of schedule. Yeah, yeah, So that's where 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.000 I'm like, they were a head of schedule and that 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.000 it took them seven weeks. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.920 I just well, I don't know, I get it. I'm 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.080 not saying the two are different. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.600 I'm not saying the two are contradictory, Yeah, right, because 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.400 they where you are in camp and where you are 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.839 facing actual opponents are two different things. Right, was this 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.520 weird dichotomy of they finished camp so strong, yeah, and 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.800 then to start the season the way they did was 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:23.400 a little jarring. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.760 Yeah. So I think they were always building up to 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.320 this point. I think a couple of things happened. One 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.360 obviously the injuries on the offensive line and just the 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:37.000 offense in general not really finding a rhythm of players 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.960 that they could use every week in and week out. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:44.079 Then you have, I think secondly to that, you really 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.320 you had to give Bill O'Brien some time to figure 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.880 out how to use the personnel. And we're at that 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:51.640 point now, and I get that some of us could 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:56.280 have looked at it, and some of us did and said, oh, well, shocker, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.840 Like if you feature Kendrick Bourne and to Mario Douglas 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.679 and you move on Whenny to write tackle like, it's 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.880 gonna look it's gonna be better, right, like like a 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.360 big surprise. But I still think that when you have 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.800 a new coordinator and you have a guy that is 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.160 trying to install a system and trying to get his 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.839 system up and running, it's gonna take time for him 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:17.839 to realize. Juju Smith Schuster on jet motion is not 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.440 having the same effect on the defense as Pop Douglas 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.520 in jet motion, right like that, just those two things 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.320 are not equal. And early on in the season, if 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.000 you look at it from more of like a rate 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:32.360 standpoint or an actual volume standpoint, they were using a 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.240 lot of these motions and things like that already early 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.480 on in the year, But unfortunately, the guys they were 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.600 doing it with just weren't making any sort of impact 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.800 on the defense when they did it. They were doing 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.800 it a lot with Juju, They were doing it a 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.360 lot at a heavy personnel grips with Micah Sicki. 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.880 They tried it with Devonte Parker at one point. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:54.120 Yeah, like it just it it wasn't effective, right, And 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.439 now all of a sudden, they look at it in 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.000 week seven and you're seeing Pop Douglas, you're seeing Kendrick Bourne, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.080 you're seeing Taekwon Thorton. Maybe we'll see Jalen Rager, which 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.440 we can talk about in a little bit as well, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.800 if we want to go there. And you're seeing these 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.840 faster players being used in these in these schemes, and 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.320 now all of a sudden, it does have an impact 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.520 on the defense, and it does make an impact on 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.920 the whole overall offense. So I think they were always 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.079 building up to this point. And the last thing I 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.320 would say is that I truly and we knew this 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.880 all along, just in terms of the longevity of the 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.120 team as well. But I think in the first couple 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.320 of weeks of the season, they were really hoping the 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.440 defense was going to carry them, and they knew that 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.760 the offense was gonna take some time. There was a 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.040 lot of work, and we knew this as well. There 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.760 was a lot of work to do on the offensive 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.280 side of the ball for Bill O'Brien. He had to 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.719 figure out the offensive line, He had to put the 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.280 quarterback back together, he had to figure out what he 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.280 had personnel wise in the skill position groups. He had 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.600 to integrate some new faces in that skill position group, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.160 you know, new tight end, new receivers, things like that. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.680 And there is a lot to fix from last year, 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:05.720 just bad habits, poor fundamentals, like all these types of things, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.000 and that stuff was not going to happen overnight. So 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.680 what happened, in short, is that the loss of snowball 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.840 on them quickly early on in the season. I think 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.520 that they thought, all right, if we're two and four, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.800 three and three, and then the offense starts to hit 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.560 its stride. Week seven, Week eight, now we have a 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.360 we're humming right right. Unfortunately, what happened was they got 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:31.840 blown out and back to back weeks and all of 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.600 a sudden they're one and five and they look up 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.840 in the season is almost over essentially, So I think 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.400 that that's all well and true. The last thing, you know, 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.960 from a big picture standpoint, I wanted to talk about 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.720 was was Mac and just the way that he played 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.480 in this game. We're gonna do three up, three down, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.160 and I'm sure we'll talk about him a little bit 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.440 more during that as well. But with Mac, I came 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.880 away from this game. For the most part. There were 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:01.360 some Dallas New Orleans Mac moment where he had happy 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.880 feet in the pocket and was panicking a little bit 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.040 under pressure and things like that. But I would say, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.600 on the whole, his footwork, his mechanics in the pocket, 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.360 his reads, his timing, his trust of the offensive line 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.040 was night and day compared to what we saw in 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:23.160 the previous three weeks. And you know, we have all 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.680 of us, and I'm gonna I'm gonna say all of 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:30.720 us and speak for everybody. We have all been really critical. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.760 I think at different times of Mac Jones, and he 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.680 has gotten a lot of heat locally here in this market, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.600 and understandably, he hasn't played well this year a lot, 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.400 you know, on the whole, he has not played well 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.560 in this season, and he didn't really particularly played well 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.600 play well last year either. But he's gotten a lot 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.800 of heat. And as much as you know, Rob Gronkowski 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.720 doesn't want us to celebrate like we're winning the super 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.640 Bowl and things like that for beating Buffalo, I do 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.200 think that it's okay to give him some flowers that 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.120 he played a good game and in the fourth quarter, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.040 he was excellent in this game, probably his best fourth 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.920 quarter that if we take out the like the the 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.800 fake comebacks right like when they're down by fourteen, and 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.160 he puts a couple drives together in terms of just 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.400 going toe to toe with Josh Allen, this was probably 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.600 his best fourth quarter as a Patriot. And obviously that 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.880 that game winning drive, I had a couple of really 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:34.160 really high level throws and plays by the quarterback to 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.200 get them down the field. I know the screen was 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.080 kind of the big play that kind of got things going, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.560 but obviously the third down throw. But I really thought 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.040 that the throw to Parker on the slant, the throw 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.440 to Remandre underneath on the little angle route, in the 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.680 touchdown throw. All those throws I thought were good high 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.960 level quarterback play, and he got them down there. He 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.480 won the game, and you know, I'm glad. I'm happy 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.160 for him because you just like shut up some of 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.320 the doubters and some of the haters myself included, honestly 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.879 for the first six weeks of the season, and uh, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.240 you know, it was great to see it. And I now, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.439 like he said, yesterday, god do it again, right, Like 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.119 it's one thing to do it once, but now you 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.840 got to keep doing it again and again. And uh, 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.520 you know, I I look back on it, and I 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.640 do wish that I was like a little less critical 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.800 of him in the first six weeks of the season, 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.159 not because, like I, but we have been on this 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.800 show pretty pro Mac and yeah and pretty uh you know. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.760 We We've told you guys why we feel like he's 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.320 not succeeding here. And I feel like we've blamed the 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.480 right people for his failures, right, Like, I don't feel 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.280 like we've been wrong to blame Belichick, to blame the 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.880 supporting cast, to blame whatever abomination. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.359 That coach, and we put to blame on Mac as 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.800 well on Yeah, but I think we've carved up that 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:58.000 blame pie pretty fairly. Yeah, it's kind of my take 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:59.600 on Mac is kind of the same as my take 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.320 on whole game. That's the guy we're talking about this 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.360 summer when we said, hey, look he's bouncing back. They 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.440 may have something here, they may have fixed them. That 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:13.879 that's the guy and I when you protect him, he 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.119 distributes the ball. Well, that's what the offense should look like. 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.680 The really interesting number Evan I thought from that game 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.119 he had not just a season low, but a career 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.399 low average depth of target, but his highest yards per 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.000 completion of the season. And that's Mac Jones make the read, 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.919 distribute the ball, and when you have playmakers around him, 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.399 when you have guys like to Mario Douglas and guys 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.440 like Kendrick Bourne who can create after the catch, that's 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.600 how you get this thing going. That is exactly what 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.680 their offense should be. That's what all it should have been. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.879 That's what it looked like. The bigger now, the overarching 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.000 element of it is I think that game, for better worse, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.880 was the Patriots best punch. I think that's I think 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.480 there's another I think maybe there's like one more level, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.760 but that's about what you're gonna get. How many more 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.160 times can they throw that punch? That's it And and 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.520 that applies to mac Jones as well. That's mac Jones 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:07.879 in his element, and he can play a little better 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.800 than that, but that's mac Jones in his element. He 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.960 hasn't been in his element. I thought he I know, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:14.280 you don't think he was. I thought he was in 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.560 the Philly game, but that was two months ago. Now, Yeah, 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.800 how many more games can you get were mac Jones 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.960 in his element? How many more games can they max out? 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.000 Because if it's they got ten games left, right, they're 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:27.760 not gonna make nobody MAXs out one hundred percent of 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.960 the games. The best teams don't do it right. Patriots 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.080 almost did once. Uh, if you get eight more games 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.520 of that, and that doesn't mean they win every game, Like, 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.200 I don't know, do they beat the Chiefs playing that way? 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:41.040 I don't know everybody else on their schedule they probably do. Yeah, 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.600 but just with injuries and things that have gone on, 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.919 Miami will be tough. We'll get to that. But do 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.359 you get eight more games of that Patriots team. Do 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.159 you get five more? Do you get two more? Do 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:51.880 you get any more? 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:53.800 And I think that's kind of the question right now, right, 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.040 And that's how you determine, like off, you know, kind 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.480 of my big picture takeaway, that's how you sort of 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.200 determine where you go from here twenty four exactly. 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:06.080 And I thought, you know, Greg Bedard wrote something after 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.280 the game that Mac checked all the boxes he needed 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.120 a check or he answered all he said. Greg said, 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:14.119 he answered all the questions. I agree ninety percent with that. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.879 I think in terms of handling pressure, in terms of 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.080 the fourth quarter comeback, in terms of you know, the 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.520 whole twenty five points thing, the opponent scoring twenty five 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.879 it being Josh Allen in Buffalo and a team that 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:29.280 had haunted him. There was one box he didn't check 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.720 in that game that he was never going to be 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.800 able to check in that game. And that's consistency. And 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.399 that's where this this should have been the conversation we 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.440 were having week one, Week two, Week three was all right, 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.360 you did it, great, Can you do it again? Can 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:44.919 you do it? Over the course of the season, it 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:46.680 took us two week seven to get to that conversation 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.080 but here we are. We've seen him do it, and 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.200 there's been people trying to tell us that he couldn't 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.400 do that. He just did it. Can't take that away 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.880 from he just did it. But now it becomes all right, 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:58.800 can you it doesn't have to be every week, but 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.919 more weeks than not. Can you do that in a 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:03.960 significant portion of the weeks? Can you do it where 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:05.960 you dig out of this hole, you get back to 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.240 five hundred, you make this a playoff chase. And I 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.760 think most I'm talking about the team as a hole there, 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.359 not just Mac, but I think for Mac importantly, we 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:17.199 can bring this concept back. Now. Can Mac lead the 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.200 team that way enough times that they win enough games 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.840 that they're not drafting in a spot where they can 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.240 get his replacement, That they're not picking high enough to 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.800 draft Drake May, that they're not picking high enough to 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.200 draft Michael Penix, And maybe they do the Jalen Hurts 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:32.720 thing and they take a quarterback in the second or 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.719 third round, but those guys aren't immediate replacements. 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:37.000 Right. 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.000 That's where Mac Jones is at right now in terms 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:44.760 of the twenty twenty four outlook. Right, Yeah, it's so 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:49.720 much easier to move forward as a football team. If 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.920 you don't need to draft a quarterback, it's so much easy. 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:55.399 Oh yeah, no, then Marvin Harrison Junior is back on 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:59.040 the table. Joel if shan or on the table, Jared Verse, 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:00.880 if you want to go the eye, I wouldn't, But I. 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.360 Think the tackler wide receiver is on the table. You're 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.440 gonna like people don't know who any of these people are. 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.840 Tackle or wide receivers back on the table and building. 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.520 Mac Jones keeps playing with Mac Jones is back on 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.399 the table. And that is a much to get to 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.280 from point A to point B. That's a much faster line, yes, 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.960 right than it is to start all over with Drake 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.719 may or Michael Pennix and build the whole thing back up, 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.840 because then you don't have that asset anymore, right, if 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.639 you don't have the first round pick anymore to draft 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:32.840 Unfortunately you know they don't have two first round picks 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:34.439 like you know, like the Texans. 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:36.560 You just you have to be confident that Max the 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.919 guy you're gonna give that extension. That's basically or at 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:40.840 least pick up the fifth fifth year eyes. I think 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:44.000 you're confident if he plays that way, that's a guy extend. 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:45.240 That's a guy you can build around. 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.560 I definitely think you're trending towards the fifth year option 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:48.440 at the very least. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:52.639 I will say this though, Yeah, so I think the 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:57.960 Patriots played well independently, I think they executed at a 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:02.199 good level. Yeah, I don't know when we get to 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.119 the end of the season if Buffalo is going to 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.560 be as quality of a win as we think it 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:07.080 is right now. 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.080 Oh god, we can do that in the Sunday. You 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.199 can take your victory lap on the Bills. In a second, 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.359 but last couple of things here about about this game 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.080 from you know, kind of a bird's eye view, and 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.239 then we'll get into some calls and we'll do three up, 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:21.679 three down. Last thing on Bill O'Brien, I think you 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.480 know some of the things that you talked about in 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.160 terms of the stats, like his average air yard per 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:29.240 attempt and how efficient he was despite really not throwing 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.560 the ball much down the field. To me, that's a 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.800 scheme stat like that, that's a play calling stat. And 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.560 when I tell you, I truly think that this is 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:44.879 one of the best coordinated games on both sides of 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.240 the ball that the Patriots have had in my time 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.399 covering the team, Like it's up there with some of 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.080 the game plans that they had in like eighteen and nineteen. 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:59.720 To me offensively, Bill O'Brien created all those easy access 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:02.480 type to throws for mac Jones right, using the motion, 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:07.520 using the quick game, using the horizontal width of the field. 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.479 The Patriots are still still even in this game, the 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.360 Patriots can't throw the ball vertically down the field. They 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.960 have no vertical threats even like Pop Douglas is the 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.280 closest thing that they have to it. But like that's 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:23.040 more of that fifteen to twenty five yard range right 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.879 seam throws things like that, you know, slot fades or 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:28.480 he drops it in the bucket, you know, farrow brown 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.560 right seam shot, like you know, twenty twenty five yards. 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.560 They don't have a vertical element of the game. So 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.560 what Billy Oh has said is, all right, you guys 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.040 are gonna play a lot. You're gonna crowd in the 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.240 middle of the field. You're gonna play man coverage on 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.639 the outside, or you're gonna play match coverage on the outside, 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.520 and you're gonna make us beat you down the field. 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:50.840 So what we're gonna do is we're gonna spread you out. 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.080 We're just gonna run a horizontal stretch type of offense 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.760 to spread out the field, and it's gonna create openings 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.119 and conflict in the short part of the field for 0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:04.840 Mac Jones to just make the layups in this offense. 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.480 And I really thought until they got into that fourth 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.679 quarter and they needed him to make some money throws 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:13.040 in the fourth quarter a lot they were carried in 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.239 the first three quarters by the play calling, Like they 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:19.199 were really carried in that sense, and they created a 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.679 lot of these different openings for Mac to make throws 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.359 that he's capable of making off of window dressing, off 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.280 of play action, off of RPO, like at all these 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:33.480 different things. And that's that's their offense. Like, that's gonna 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.960 have to be the way that they scheme it up. 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:40.480 If you're not gonna be able to challenge defenses vertically 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.800 down the field, you have to be able to stretch 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.880 it horizontally, right, And that's where all these different things 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.360 that we're talking about came into play in this game, 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.240 and that's how they were able to do that. Defensively, 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:54.560 I think girod Mayo and Steve Belichick deserve kudos as well. 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.200 I thought that that game plan was the best they've 0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.119 had against Josh Allen in a couple of years. They 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.080 did not do what they did last year against him. 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:03.919 Can I rephrase that? 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:04.639 Sure? 0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.679 I think it's the best they've had against Diggs. I 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.719 think what they did against Alan was similar. I think 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.199 it's more changes on the back end. I don't know, 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.320 I might disagree with that, Okay. I think Diggs would 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.840 have had a huge game of Fallon played better. Oh no, 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:21.240 that's true. But they didn't. What I meant was the 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.120 last couple of years they faced him, they just took 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.800 a corner, stuck him on Diggs shadow with help, and 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.639 it just wasn't enough. They changed the looks and Digs 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.639 still beat them some of the time, certainly, and he 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.399 had two walking touchdowns that Josh Allen just missed, like missed. 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:43.160 But it wasn't just jac Jackson shadowing Stefan Diggs's safety 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.680 over the help. It was jac Jackson, it was Jack Jones, 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.800 it was Jonathan Jones. There was some more zone mixed 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.040 in there, like they gave him. It felt like the 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.080 last couple of years Stefan Diggs knew just like all right, 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.320 if I run by this guy. That's it. That's it, 0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.399 and it's gonna be the same guy every time, and 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.639 I can kind of work and work to release package 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.000 and figure out the tendencies and once I have that down, boom, 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.679 I'm gone. He couldn't do that. There was no rhythm, 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.560 there was no pattern. Well, I think through the kitchen sinkat. 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.280 I think the lack of rhythm and pattern was because 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.080 of the pass rush. They they blitzed down fifty percent 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.479 of the time, okay, and they came after him and 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.120 what they they had a great rush plan of like 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.480 sending five or six guys, but then one guy would 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.240 like hang back. It was a lot of the time 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.960 it was Juwan Bentley and spy him, and so when 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.920 the pressure flushed him, they had a set like another 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:33.480 layer of pass rush. 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.200 So there's kind of like what they did against Jalen 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:35.800 hurts a little bit. 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.280 Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I think so right, I'm trying 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:39.800 to remember that. 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.080 I think that was more done. It wasn't so much 0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.560 that was more like they'd flush him to have a spy. 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.840 This was more they would have, like I guess it layers. 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:50.280 I don't know what the technical term would be, like 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.920 layering the rush itself rather than a spy might be 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:53.879 the better way to phrase it. 0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:57.199 But yeah, this this one, I think that you know, 0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.760 Bentley was a spy, Yeah, a true dedic spy in 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:02.280 a lot of these cases. But I think what the 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.199 big thing is is that in past matchups against Josh Allen, 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:13.440 they have allowed him to extend plays like with points. 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.720 Like it's like calmly, like just kinda da da da 0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:18.920 da da da da. Okay, Like I'm just gonna run 0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:20.800 over here for a little bit and then run over 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.080 there for a little bit, and you can't cover my 0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.320 guys for five seconds, like you just can't. So eventually 0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.520 somebody's gonna come open. In this game, when Allen was 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:34.679 throwing with extended play, he was throwing under pressure, and 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.240 he was throwing early, like they made him throw it 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.040 and make a decision quickly when he got on the 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:43.680 move instead of letting him just delay delay, delay, and 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.640 then all of a sudden, you got you know, Digs 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.160 down there, you got gave Davis, you got the tight ends, 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.000 and someone's gonna get open eventually. In this game, they 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.360 did a really great job of pressuring him initially and 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.920 then having that second wave to kind of pin him 0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.280 to the sideline or make him make a throw quickly 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.160 and on the move. Even rushed and he just he 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.600 looked panicked, like he looked disheveled in this game, and 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.440 you have to get him. We we talked about this 0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:10.840 last year. I'm trying to remember how he phrased it, 0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:12.920 because I think we phrased it the right way. But 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.720 they remember last year we had that. I think it 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.600 was going to the second game like they didn't they 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:21.840 didn't hit him. 0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:22.480 Last year. 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.480 They were very they were like dropping eight guys into 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:27.440 cut like they were trying to know. 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.720 But I mean, I mean even when the guys, even 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.440 when people got to him, they weren't finishing their hits. 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.880 And this game, like he that whole second half, most 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.080 second half, he takes a hit from Christian Barmore early. 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.680 I don't remember it was a sack or a pressure, 0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.520 but he took a hit from Barmore early in the 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.160 second half and the rest of that game, if you 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.920 go back and watch it, he's wincing every single play. 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.959 He came in with a bad shoulder. And they tested it. 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.320 They basically tested it. They said, how And I think 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:57.920 that's part of the reason too, he didn't run as much. 0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.400 They basically said, how much do you want to put 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.280 your body on the line in this game? Yeah, And 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.480 I think you need to do that against Josh Allen. 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.120 I think that in past game plans they have played coverage, 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.040 they've dropped seven guys, they've dropped eight guys at times 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:15.640 against Josh Allen, and they have basically just been patient 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.000 and hope that he makes a mistake like that, like 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.479 they just want him to make a mistake. And in 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.400 this game, it felt like they did the total opposite. 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.920 They said, we're gonna come after him, We're gonna pressure him, 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.440 We're gonna make him make plays on our terms instead 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.840 of his terms. And that was my whole thing going 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.960 into the game was that, you know, he's to me, 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:40.560 he's the most dynamic, extended play threat in the NFL 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.080 right now. He's Captain Chaos, right Like he can play 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.120 in that style all he wants. But in order to 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.720 combat that, I think, you know, a lot of teams 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.360 look at it, and I think the Patriots looked at 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.320 it this way. In the past, it was we got 0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.240 to keep him in the pocket, we got to make 0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.160 him play in structure. We can't let him extend plays 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.160 on us. Instead in this game, they fought chaos with chaos. 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.040 They were like, all right, we're just gonna come after 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.680 him and we're gonna make him make throws rushed in 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.240 on our terms, and we're not gonna play coverage and 0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:13.160 we're not gonna play quite frankly, like scared that he's 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.560 gonna hit us with a big play, and yeah, maybe 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.160 he'll get one or two, and he got, you know, 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.360 the one to James Cook, like a twenty eight yard 0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.560 or off an extended play, but we're not gonna worry 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.080 about him well going on. 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.760 It's that thing I always say every time, and I 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:29.800 didn't say it this week ironically, or last week when 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.160 the Patriots played the Bills, right that I bring up 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.400 the Ravens in Matthew Judah saying, yeah, we weren't afraid 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.280 of Brady because we knew if we do what we do, 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.560 like we're NFL players still Yeah, And it felt like 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.040 there was an element of that. But within all that 0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:43.560 and the scheme's c I don't want to take anything 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:44.840 away from the scheme. I feel like that's what this 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.680 sounds like. It's not. Yeah, but that only works if 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:53.000 you're getting them, and Christian Barmore and Anthony Jennings were. 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.120 There were a couple other guys that got in there 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.280 here and there, but felt like every other play was 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.080 either Christian Barmore or Anthony Jennings in his face, PFF 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:05.000 had Barmore down for four pressures. That feels very low. Uh. 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.080 Those two guys made this happen, I think more than 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.880 anybody else. Christian Barmore and Anthony Jennings were Josh Allen's 0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:11.560 probably seeing them in a. 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.520 Couple time that entire defensive line played out. They played 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.520 great game, Davon Godshot played it great. 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.720 Yeah, they played incredibly well and they deserve a ton 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.560 of credit for It's a good game plan. I don't 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.200 want to take away from the game plan, but as 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.240 any coach will tell you, right, yeah, players have to 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.280 make the plays, and those guys, but this was. 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.240 Such a different they they did not. This is such 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.600 a different approach against him. This was more what they 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.760 did with him early on in his career and when 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.840 he flipped that switch from being the quarterback that he 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.400 was in his first couple of seasons to you know, 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.920 a guy that's finishing top five and MVP votes. They 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.600 got scared. They they played conservative against him in this game. 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.280 They almost went back to like what they would do 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.680 against him in like twenty nineteen, you know, and they 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.880 were they come after him instead, and yeah, they they had. 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.200 He got out of probably four or five sacks, you know, 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:06.720 avoiding pressure, seeing blitzers laid and and you know, kind 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:08.800 of sneaking out of pressure. And I know that that 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.760 sometimes drives people nuts, like when you know, Miles Bryant 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.480 comes on a blitz and he can't get him on 0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:17.160 the ground and things like that. But it even though 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.960 he didn't get him down like that, it that was 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.960 the goal, right, Like they succeeded even Yeah. 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:25.479 Myles Bryant's not tackling Jos on the open field. It's 0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:26.080 not happening. 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:30.040 All right, let's let's do let's do three up, three down. 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:34.080 Then we'll open up the phones I have, you know, 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.640 we do this sometimes, like when they were playing poorly, 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.040 I had like five duds and two stuff. I have 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.440 four studs for you this game, all right, ain't gonna 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.480 you know, give them their flowers? Right, my number one 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:46.880 stub from this game. And I went back and forth 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.440 on who to put number one, but I ultimately settled 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.400 on Mac Jones. I just think that this was his game. 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:57.160 You know, this was his his shining moment, his signature win, 0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.239 whatever you want to call it. We went over some 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.400 of the things that I thought he did really well 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:05.240 in this game, but really the throws in the fourth 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.080 quarter stood out. The third and eight, the seam throw 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:12.239 to Pharaoh Brown, the seam throat to Pop Douglas I 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.560 thought was a great throw as well. And also just 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.960 the amount of times that he you know, got them 0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.480 into the right plays or made adjustments at the line 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.640 of scrimmage, that type of stuff, the chess match type 0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:28.360 of stuff. He's really starting to take another step forward, 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.839 and you know you combat it with Okay, he doesn't 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.239 have the physical tools as Josh Allen. We've been over 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:34.200 this million times. 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.560 You have established he's not Patrick Holmes. 0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.520 Yes, in this game, the Patriots, with all the blitzing 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:46.719 that they did against Alan, Alan really struggled with setting protections, 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.240 getting himself protected against the blitz knowing when he was hot, 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.400 like things like that. And I thought, conversely, on the 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:58.000 other side, you saw the brain power of the Patriots quarterback, like, yeah, 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.319 he doesn't have the ability that Josh Allen does. But 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.920 Josh Allen's running for his life on one side because 0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.840 he can't get the blitz blocked. And Mac Jones is 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.680 out there field general style, getting everybody in order, getting 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.960 the blitz blocked, and just making the simple throws and 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.319 the simple reads. So I have Mac Jones as my 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.200 number one stud in this game. Where are you at? 0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.319 I think my number one is probably Christian Barmore. I mean, 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.319 Mac Jones is on my ups, but I just kind 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.160 of said it. I think Christian Barmore this is a 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.200 couple of weeks in a row now, Yep, he's been 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:32.279 a game wrecker. This is the guy we saw coming 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.920 out of Alabama. A lot of people were surprised he 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:40.360 ended up being a first round pick, interior nightmare pass rusher. 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:42.799 I think part of it is he's finally healthy. And 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:44.920 Bill Belichick kind of alluded to that yesterday. He was 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.520 asked about what he's seen from Barmore this year, and 0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.200 he said, you know, he's been training as hard as 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.360 he's been able to going back to the summer, and 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.880 that alludes to him being fully healthy. This is the 0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.840 guy they thought they were getting when he's fully healthy. 0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:59.719 Member Richard Seymour's name was getting thrown out there a lot. 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:04.640 When he is drafted, people whispered, Aaron Donald, pump the 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:06.279 brakes on that, right. No, I'm not saying he's gonna 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.400 be an NFL Hall of Famer, but it's like the 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.719 guy he's been the last few weeks. That's the guy. 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.719 That's the guy I thought we were getting, and he's been. 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.040 He's a big reason it was as close as it 0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.759 was I think against the Raiders, and he is as 0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.359 big a reason I think as anybody that they beat 0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.399 the Bills, and more importantly, they finally shut down Josh Allen. 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.640 He was excellent. And I think there's two things that 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.879 they really challenged the defense on this week, and one 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.560 of the biggest things was interior pressure pressure up the 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.800 middle on Josh Allen because they knew that they couldn't 0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.839 get they couldn't unlock the edges to go after him 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:44.640 because then he's gonna get out of the pocket, right, 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.240 So they really wanted to keep him in the pocket 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.600 as much as possible, but then have the interior pressure 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.360 through the middle of the pocket so that he couldn't 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.279 step up and through the pocket. So they did a 0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.960 great job of that in this game, really across the 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.840 board on the defensive line, I had the entire defensive 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:07.879 line on my ups if I wanted to bar more Wise, Godshow, Jennings, 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:11.400 all those guys were phenomenal in this game. Devon Godshaw 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:13.880 just like dominates against the Bills. I don't know what 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.000 it is about the interior of the Bills, but he 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.280 has had some of his best games as a Patriot 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.200 against the Buffalo Bills. The win game was probably his 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.640 best game period as a New England page. I remember 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.480 that he was awesome, but this game was close. He 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.840 just dominates this matchup. And not only was he holding 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.200 the point of attack and eating up blocks and doing 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.120 all the nose tackle stuff, he had three quarterback pressures 0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.200 in this game as well. So he just continued to 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:44.080 absolutely eat alive. Uh this this pass rush and this 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:46.000 we could. 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.640 Yeah we got. We had a little uh a rumor. 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:51.840 The Marine's not the greatest when it comes to parody account. 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:56.800 There was somebody tweeted and it's you know that account 0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.120 that tweets like the fake quotes of the players. 0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:00.000 Yeah look at it. 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.759 Yeah Boston Cream got me. Yeah, So the tweet I 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.680 think it has been deleted. I can't even find it. 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:10.160 Oh God, here the Raiders agree. 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.439 Las Vegas Raiders have agreed to trade wide receiver Hunter 0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.560 Renfro to the New England Patriots for a twenty twenty 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:16.560 four first round pick. 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:17.480 And this is not true. 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.440 But then at the bottom it says the Patriots, however, 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:20.160 did not agree. 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.320 Fake news alert. Yes, okay, anyways, yeah. 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.280 Too excited. I apologize. I'll say this because now people 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.200 ask I have no interest in the Patriots trading for 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:28.120 Hunter Renfro, not. 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:30.600 Mean me neither. 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.279 He hasn't been good in two years. He makes a 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:33.880 lot of money. 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:34.839 I've always liked him. 0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.280 I know you have. But he's kind of cooked. And 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.200 they now have what six receivers on the act of large, 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.920 like if you can one for one trade like Devonte 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.040 Parker for him to unload that contract, I guess. But 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.600 giving up a draft asset for Hunter Renfro, Yeah, yeah, 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.520 I think there's other areas of the roster they could address. 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:56.120 Yeah, that's fair. Anyways, great game by the defensive line, 0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:01.680 Godshaw wise far more Jennings Tavi. Did you know his 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.439 divide do your job type of thing? 0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:04.879 Yeah? 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.239 But yeah, I think Devine gotscha. I I really good 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.920 game for him in this one big reason why they 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.440 were able to control the line of scrimmage. All right, Uh, 0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:19.000 but I got two more, maybe two more, one more, 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:19.440 big one. 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:20.160 I can't remember. 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:21.640 Let me look at our list here, Yeah, two more, 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.480 two more. Going back to the offense, I almost had 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:29.680 this player number one in my list. Pop Douglas, I 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:34.359 mean Pop Douglas in this game was This was an 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:39.359 excellent wide receiver game for the Patriots that I don't 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.360 know if I've seen a wide receiver for the Pats 0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:43.359 maybe other than some of the games that Kendrick Bourne 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.560 has had over the last couple of years. But this 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.239 was as good of a game for any of the 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.879 Patriots receivers in a little bit. 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:50.440 Uh. 0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:53.440 He was dynamic, he was effective in this game. He 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.839 was open the entire time when especially when Buffalo played 0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.360 man coverage. Big part of it was the was the 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.720 motion and thing like that moving him around the formation. 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.000 But he's so good at that and he's so perfect 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.560 for that role. The comparison that I would use of 0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:12.560 how they're using Pop Douglas like he's basically discount Tyreek Kill, 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.120 Like he's there, like he's being used like Miami would 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.560 use Tyreek Hill. He is just obviously not Tyreek Kill, right, 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.880 and they're using him in a similar fashion, and he's 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:27.160 he's just been super super difficult to cover, great with 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.240 the football in his hands. A couple of avoided tackles 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.400 in this game. Very first play of the game, he 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:35.359 spins Tron Johnson around like in a blender. Then he gets, 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.560 you know, the the jet suite breaks the tackle there 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.640 as well. He drew three penalties in this game, a 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:45.400 couple of pass interference calls, a holding. This was a 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.680 dominant game by him in a lot of facets, and 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.160 it's exciting to see a Patriots receiver play that well. 0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.719 He needs to be as involved as anybody else in 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.640 this offense moving forward, and you you can't feed that 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.560 guy enough, like you give Pop Douglas enough opportunities in 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.800 this offense moving forward. So I had Douglass as another 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:06.479 up in this one. 0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.480 Yeah, I just kind of combined all these Bill O'Brien. 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.440 I thought the usage of Pop Douglas, I thought the 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.760 usage of Kendrick Bourne was excellent, and those guys played 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.279 outstanding as well. But yeah, when you get those the 0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.720 playmakers the ball in their hands in open space. It's excellent. 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:28.560 I thought the the the attack plan was good, really 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.240 And we'll get to this when we talk about Miami. 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:35.399 The balance of how much each guy played in terms 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.880 of the skill positions and who played with who running backs, 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:41.399 tight ends, receivers, I thought that was a really good mix. Now, 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:43.719 there were some guys that played less that you think 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.319 might play more. There are some guys that didn't play 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:46.480 at all that we're gonna have to figure out what 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:47.080 they're gonna do with. 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:48.680 We can get into that. 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:53.200 But I thought I thought the whole plan in that 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.759 regard was just excellent. Yeah, I thought it was really good. 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.480 The last one I had was was Mike Onwinnho. I mean, 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.200 I think you got to give him some credit in 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.440 this game. Look, I don't think he's perfect as a tackle. 0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.680 I think some of the film, you know, his range, 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.920 like his footwork and his ability to hit landmarks. He 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:12.640 has a little bit of a short corner. He does 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.560 like he plays tackle like a guard and that's okay, 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.279 especially on the right side where Mac can see the 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.799 pressure coming and step up in the pocket. And he 0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:26.040 is so much better, so much better than Vederian Lowe 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.719 that even though I excuse me, I still don't think 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.200 he's a tackle. Okay, I know people want him to 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:35.720 play tackle permanently, but he is certainly the best tackle 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:42.040 right I understand though, and I think that based off 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.400 of some of the comments that we heard from Bill Belichick, 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:49.920 even Bill O'Brien and Adrian Clem, why there's some reservation 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:54.000 from the player and the coaching staff for just to 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.840 call him a tackle and to call him a right tackle. 0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.800 He he's a guard now. He's there best right tackle 0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.279 right and he's gonna have to play right tackle the 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.440 rest of the year to give them a chance. But 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.000 that doesn't necessarily mean that his long term home should 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.480 still be it should be at tackle. With that being said, 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.279 in this game it was so much better than what 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.520 they had in the first six weeks of the season 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.960 that he deserves all the credit in the world for 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.719 moving out there playing out there well, and it was 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.239 It was good to see them finally make that move, 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.480 like we've been saying that, and I've been dismissive of 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.080 it because I never thought they were actually gonna do it. 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.279 It took them being one in five and in like 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.200 true desperation mode for them to make that move. But 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.279 they finally made the move and it was the right 0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:36.719 move to make. 0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:38.000 Yeah, he has to play out to the rest of 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.360 the season. I understand the long term questions. Yeah, he 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:41.960 has to has to has to play out to the 0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.000 rest of the season. He's their best right tackle. If 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:45.640 they didn't want that to happen, they should have put 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.120 more into the position in the offseason, plain and simple. 0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.680 I have two more yes, Ezekiel Elliott. 0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:52.200 Yeah, was really good. 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:57.240 Again that touchdown specifically, that's when they signed him back 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.000 in the summer. That's the play they had in mind 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.360 because he gets stone Walls at the two yard line. 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.680 That one actually wasn't blocked. Great, he got Stonewall at 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.279 the two yard line and what does he do. We 0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.960 refuse to leave his feet, keeps twisting his body falls 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:14.000 into the end zone. That is old school Zeke. Remember 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.520 we talked about this when he signed. Yeah, I don't 0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.239 know that he's a breakaway runner. He was, but if 0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.719 you need a yard, you need two yards, He's gonna 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.799 get you two yards. That's what that run was. And 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:26.120 then the other one. The rookie specialists wasn't all perfect 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:28.520 on special teams. Fair enough he had the penalty on 0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:30.799 Brendon Schooler. Yeah, couldn't get the field goal un and on. 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.359 But Bryce Baringer didn't shank his first punt of the game, 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.320 so that was nice. And he put both his punts 0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.279 inside the twenty and Chad Rolland had a sixty four 0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.840 yard Yeah, Chad Ratherands three for three. So those guys 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.200 showed up. They did their jobs. That's kind of what 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.400 you just want those guys to do. Not flashy, excellent 0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:48.359 good stuff from them. 0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:49.960 Tyler Bass a really good kicker. 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.960 Tyler rat remember the Tyler Basstard Rego of Blanconship, The 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.800 great Tyler Bastard Rego Blanket Ship Debate of twenty twenty. 0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.560 It was, It was great, It sure was. Tyler Bass 0:44:58.600 --> 0:44:59.799 is a really good kicker, and he had a lot 0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.320 of trouble in the conditions on Sunday. 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.400 Andy kind of got built, took a shot at him 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:05.560 after the game till. 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.440 The forty nine yarder that that Rylan made. That's not 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.120 an easy kick, especially given the stakes of you're in 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.600 the game against Buffalo and you're trying to keep the 0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.160 momentum moving forward and you're trying to get points on 0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:20.759 a drive a forty nine yarder and in some tough conditions. 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.480 I think the wind was swirling a little bit in 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.440 the stadium that day. That was a good kick. That 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.879 was a good kick by the rook Ye good kick. 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:29.960 I know. It's not like a fifty six yarder, right, 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:31.799 so on paper it doesn't look you know, you should 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:35.160 be making the majority of your inside fifty kicks, But 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:36.879 that one I thought was a tough. 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.240 Foot for a guy that And look, he's been asked 0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:40.879 to make a lot of tough kicks and you don't 0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.239 expect him to make all of them. But misses or 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.799 missus and those away on you. For a guy to 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.960 come back and respond the way he did, yeah, I 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.040 thought was excellent. Matthew Slater said after the game, like 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:54.080 he's Ryan's very mature guy. Yeah, wise beyond his years, 0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.759 I think is what's later said he kind of is it. 0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.440 The big thing with kickers is that short memory? Right? 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.759 Can you move on from the last one? Right? 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:03.759 Yeah? 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:07.920 You don't. You can't scout that And like maybe guys 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.360 do in college, maybe they don't. But if you're still, 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.480 if you're a multi year starter, chances are you're not 0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.200 imploding every time you miss a kick, But yeah, it's 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:18.719 different in the NFL, and you can't tell that in practice, 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.600 can't tell it in the meeting room, can't. I know, 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:25.000 they try asking questions at the combine and guy preseason 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:28.320 because he never took a kick, right, so you don't 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:30.200 really see it until you see it. How does he 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.799 respond to missus? And Chad Royland responded well this week? 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.200 Yeah, I thought he was good as well. And I 0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.200 agree with you on Zeke and basically, you know, I 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:41.360 like the aggressiveness that they called, like that play action 0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:43.759 on third and one early on in the game, the 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.279 completion to Pop Douglas, Like, I like that they were 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.479 a little bit aggressive and short yardage in this game, 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.600 but in general, I don't see how you can make 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.359 that Like that's your short yardage offense, right, whether it's 0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.399 goal line, whether it's third and one, giving the ball 0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:01.040 to Zeke or then play action to you know, get 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.560 the defense opened up. But because they think it's going 0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.320 to Zeke either way, like that should be the Patriots 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.040 short yardage offense moving forward. All right, I got two duds. 0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:11.680 You know, you win a game against. 0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.399 Oh wait, I had one more, Sorry, I had one more. Okay, Yeah, 0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:17.520 I'd be remiss if I didn't give this one. Jabrill Peppers. Yeah, 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.719 he is good. It's not just what he did during 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.160 the game final. What do I say every time they 0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:23.600 play Josh Allen? Yeah, when he throws you one catch it, 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:25.920 he did it. Yeah. I thought he was good in 0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.800 that sense. I thought he brought a level of physicality. Evan, 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:32.239 I gotta tell you, though, I am ready to get over. 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.120 I'm ready to just go all in on Jabrill Peppers. 0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:35.680 He's good play. 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.920 He's a good player him. He's a good leader. Did 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.719 you see him giving the speed? How many guys can 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.759 cut off Matthew Slater and be like, hang on, I 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:46.239 gotta say something and then stick the landing. This is 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.319 a guy that is just turned twenty eight, so he's 0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.680 not Yeah, but he's definitely not old, just turned twenty eight. 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.520 He's a leader, he is a tone setter. Do you 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:58.960 remember my like loose comp for him before the season. 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.520 God, you're you're you're comparing Christian Barmore to Aaron Donald. 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.520 And now I didn't do that. I said other people did. 0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:08.000 And now you're gonna compare compare Jabriel to Rodney. 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.200 Harrison as close as you can get in the modern game. No, 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.200 that is a guy that sets. He's been great. He 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.640 makes He's playing like a top ten safety in football 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:17.560 right now. He's the highest graded run defender in the 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.239 entire league ansy position. He's playing like a top ten 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.040 safety in football. He's setting the tone you want your 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.800 defense to play with. He's a communicator on the field, 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.759 he's a leader off the field. He's bought into the 0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:34.640 program entirely. He got to ask after he got to 0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:36.920 ask after the game. Peppersy's like, how do you keep playing? 0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:38.759 Keep it up when when you know you're one to five? 0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.160 Is you got to play football for the brand? That's 0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.520 what they want to hear. This is the guy. We've 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.520 talked a lot with their lack of extensions in recent 0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:48.520 years about like who's the core, who are you building around? 0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:50.040 Who's going to take this team into the next era? 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:53.200 That guy, that's the guy. I'm almost at the point 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.680 where and we I don't know, this guy's one of 0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:59.080 your duds. Maybe this leads into it. It's been a 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.359 tough year for Kyle transitioning to free safety. If that's 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:04.840 the role they want him to play, I would almost 0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.200 just let him walk. Yeah, sign Pepper's put him full 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.520 time in that box safety role and then go out 0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.040 and get an actual real free safety, whether it's being 0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:16.399 free agency, the draft, whatever. I'm like, I'm really getting there. 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:20.120 So I love Jabriel. I would also say that I've 0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.440 tried to ask him. I know this is like kind 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:26.040 of tongue in cheek a little bit, but I've tried 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.680 to ask him questions about like what coverages they've been 0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:30.960 in and stuff like that. He won't tell me. They 0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.040 love that. There you go, don't give don't give me 0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:37.040 the game plan, right, Like did you ask him? 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:37.160 Well? 0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:38.560 And he was like, if you can guess what the 0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:39.440 name is, I'll tell you. 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:42.359 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so that that he he loves 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:44.279 messing with me on that, And I know that they 0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:46.879 like that because other guys will just like come out 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.520 and and I never say, like this guy told me right, 0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:51.880 but other guys will will just tell me what stuff 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.719 is called and things like that, and I know they 0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.800 hate that. So yeah, he's My point is he's drinking 0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:59.600 the kool aid right like he's he's on the program. 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:01.960 And I think that's important too. When you start talking 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:05.680 about giving players extensions or giving them, you know, keeping 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:07.960 them around long term and things like that. We know 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.480 unfortunately for better. So let me just real quick. 0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:12.640 For some reason people think he's a penning for agent. 0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.920 He signed through twenty twenty four, so you don't have 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:18.480 to necessarily extend him, but not right now. But like 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.200 that's the guy next offseason, next offseason, especially if he 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.120 has a good maybe one of those like good camps 0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.759 and like get some of the money. All right, let's 0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.400 get into some get into the duds and then I promise, 0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.040 I know some people have been waiting on hold for 0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:30.440 a while. 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.040 We only have a couple, so, you know, good game, 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.920 so I only have two. Uh, you mentioned it already, 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:39.840 Kyle Duggar, Kyle Duggar in this game. I feel for 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:43.239 Kyle Duggar. I do. And uh, this is something that 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:48.040 we talk about it a lot with quarterbacks about like 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:52.040 how you can ruin a guy's confidence and you know, 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.600 ruin a guy change the perception of how a player 0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.320 looks because of the role he's playing or the supporting 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:01.000 cast or the play calling or the coaching or whatever. 0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:04.879 I think the Patriots are doing the equivalent of what 0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.400 they've done at times with Mac Jones to Kyle dugger 0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.680 right now by playing him out of position, he's not 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:15.000 a free safety. He looks lost there. He looks just 0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:18.400 not good. He's not been a good player playing that position. 0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:23.720 Point plank. He had a number a number of mistakes 0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:25.680 in this game trying to play the deep part of 0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:29.320 the field. Gave up the two point play that covering 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.040 tight ends in the red zone and in the end 0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.319 you know more, I should say really in the end 0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:37.280 zone has been an issue for him. He let Stefon Diggs. 0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:40.920 I gave. I gave that half and half half to JC, 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:44.520 half to Kyle Duggar, but the deep shot is Stefan Diggs. 0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:47.759 He was at least half responsible for covering that throw 0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:50.640 and that should have been a touchdown. He he just 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.360 doesn't look at home playing the deep part of the field. 0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.000 And if I'm the Patriots. In the very first rep 0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.280 of the game, which was the interception by Jabriel Peppers, 0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:02.200 they did this Mills in the deep middle with dugger 0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:05.439 and Pepper's in the box, right, Like, let those two 0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.560 guys play where they need to both play. Play Kyle 0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:12.160 Duggart closer to the line of scrimmage, and I think 0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:16.080 that he'll be better, But he's been lost back there. 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:20.400 You know, you start jotting down notes as you're watching 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.839 the film and the amount of you know, to use 0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.799 a badardism, like the amount of minus plays that I 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.880 had for Kyle Dugger in this game. It was starting 0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:31.200 to add up quickly on him as the course of 0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:34.720 the game went on. So it's tough. It's not his fault, 0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.160 is what I'm I think Kyle Duger is a talented player. 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.360 I think he's a much better football player than what 0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:41.920 he's shown. He's just playing out of position. And I 0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:46.279 also wonder how much of this is he's had to 0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:52.000 take on a much bigger communication and leadership standpoint without 0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:55.240 Devin mccordy, right like, in terms of being the back 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:58.200 end field general. And I wonder if there's somebody else, 0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:01.440 whether it's Mills, I don't think that's really Peppers is 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.880 necessarily thing. But if you play Mills in the deep middle, 0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.800 he knows the system, he's been here a couple of years. 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.640 Maybe he can take some of that responsibility off Kyle 0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.399 Dugger's plate. But Kyle Dugger is a C ball, get 0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.279 ball kind of player, and right now it looks like 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:19.680 he's overthinking everything that he's doing. And it's costing him 0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:22.359 in a lot of instances. So he was my number 0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:24.560 one dud and really, like the only true dud I 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.000 had in this game was Kyle Dugger. But I have 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.520 one more guy that I that I need to bring up. 0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:30.440 But what do you have? 0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:35.480 J C. Jackson? Yeah, I I don't know, all right, 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.080 let me rephrase that. Actually, because Jackson made some good 0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:40.000 plays in this game against the guy that's given him 0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:43.480 a lot of trouble in the past. Yeah, just tackling, Yeah, tackling. 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.319 And J C. Jackson's mistackle was the worst. I mean 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.439 allowed a touchdown. Ironically, it might have saved the game 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:52.200 because it allowed the Bills to score quicker. Ye, so 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.080 the Patriots had time to come in the other right, 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:55.319 But I'm not gonna credit for that. 0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.440 I don't like, I agree with you that that was 0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:01.960 you know, that was a bad mistackle. Steve Belichick is like, 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.480 let's tone it down with the zero blitzer, is all right? 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:07.399 They sent the house up two scores with like five 0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:08.520 minutes to go in the game. 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:10.720 I thought he had a little Brian Floresa. 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:12.920 He went won too many right, he went to the 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:15.440 well won too many times on that one. So I 0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:18.120 give that to like half JC Halfstein, but you. 0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.879 Had Jewan Bentley missed the tackle in the open field. 0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:24.879 That's Bentley. He also and this is why I can't 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.520 put any of these guys directly in the downs because 0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:28.600 Bentley had that big pass breakup on fourth down. That 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:32.600 was a nice play. But Bentley's that's tackler. That's the guy. 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.360 Kyle Dugger missed some tackles in this game. Adrian Phillips 0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:38.080 missed a tackle in the open field. These are some 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:41.240 of the best tackling players on the team, and coming 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:44.520 in the Patriots had been by most major metrics the 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:47.600 top five tackling team in the NFL. So you look 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:50.200 at this and you say, all right, was it a 0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:52.759 blip or is this something we need to be concerned about. 0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:56.520 I'll say this, Tyreek Killer, No, you can't miss tackles 0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:59.000 against the Miami Dolphins, right That is the last thing 0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:01.399 you can do again the Miami Dolphins. So we'll see 0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:04.120 if they bounce back this week. Would be a they 0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:05.960 need to bounce back this week if they want to win, 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.680 But you can't. They got very lucky to win that game. 0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:14.239 Tackling the way they did. It was a bad tackling game. 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:19.160 Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. Last one here, last dud Taekwon Thornton. 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:23.280 Taekwon Thornton. He can't really play just in general, okay, 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.400 but also I think he got benched in this game 0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:30.839 because he continues continues to run the wrong rounds like 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.719 and if you can't if you're not going to run 0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:36.120 the red like, the quarterback can't trust you, right, So like, 0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.960 even if you're open on a play, if mac Jones 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.200 doesn't feel like he has confidence and where exactly Taekwon 0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:44.759 Thornton's gonna end up on the play, then he can't 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:47.000 throw them the ball. So why have him out there? 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.319 And the fact of the matter is, and they signed 0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:51.800 Jalen Rager to the fifty three reportedly, I should I 0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:55.160 should say reportedly signed Jalen Rager to the fifty three 0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:58.759 this morning. And he's been passed on the depth chart 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:01.560 by Jalen Rager and Jillenberger is a former first round 0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:04.080 pick that's got a lot of talent, natural talent in 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:05.840 his own right. But this is a guy that was 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:09.680 a bust, right, that has been a journeyman essentially after 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:11.640 the Eagles drafted him the first round and didn't work 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:15.160 out in Philadelphia, so Taekwon Thorn has been passed by him. 0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.520 He played three snaps in this game. The very first 0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:22.160 play after the Jubril Peppers interception, they try to take 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:25.080 a shot. They go under center play action. They run 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:28.759 like a deep shot type of route concept and it's 0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:33.200 cover three. The Bills do a nice job of recognizing, 0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:35.719 like the crosser from the backside which is Taekwon, and 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:39.480 then the vertical from Jalen Rager, and all Taekwon's got 0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.279 to do on those routes, you know, he's running it 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.120 over and a lot of teams that run those types 0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:49.239 of concepts, it's a Shanahan Tree concept. They'll they'll make 0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:52.080 it an overstop, which means that if you see the 0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:55.720 boundary defender fall off the vertical and he's just sitting 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:58.799 there waiting for you, instead of continuing running across the 0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:01.560 field into the coverage, you're just gonna sit down in 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.800 the middle of the zone. And Taekwond just keeps running 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:06.799 like if he had just sat down in the middle 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.319 of the zone, he's gonna be there for completion and 0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:11.439 said he keeps on running into the sideline and gets 0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.480 himself covered and mac Jones ends up having to throw 0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:17.000 like a wild check down to Zeke Elliott and they 0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:19.040 didn't get it. Luckily, they still score on the drive, 0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:21.600 So I guess, you know, in the big picture, no harm, 0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:24.720 no foul, But he didn't really play after that, and 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:27.120 that tells me that he probably ran the wrong route 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:27.400 and that. 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:29.240 Yeah, I mean we talked about the margin ferrer with 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:31.400 this team that's not that big, and yes they ultimately 0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:33.040 ended up scoring, but that might not be the case 0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:36.160 next time. I have one more down. Yep, actually sorry, 0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:40.240 I have won more very quick up. Oh silver pants, 0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:42.840 silver pants got to be it up Mike Vrabels speech. 0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:45.400 Won't throw him out too. We gotta win. That was interesting. Yeah, 0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:50.520 one more down, Cleat Blakeman, what we Yeah? 0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.680 No, that was yeah what is he talking about? There? 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:58.920 Nineteen flags? So the thirteenth most penalized game of the year. Yeah, 0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.400 non in the ones they didn't pick up. Yeah, I'm not. 0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.160 I don't think he cost either team the game. It 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.040 was nine to eight terms of penalties, but there were 0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:08.960 they all ended up evening out. Yeah, so I don't 0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.760 know that he impacted the outcome, but boy did he 0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:13.919 make that game unwatchable. All the times him and his crew. 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:17.200 Yeah, slowly. I gave him a little bit of credit though, 0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:20.920 for for picking up the illegal man downfield on the 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:22.880 mare screen on the game winning time. 0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:23.920 Yeah, they got that correct. 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.160 They got that correct. My guess is why New York 0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.880 got that correct. They probably buzzed and be like, guys, 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:30.640 this is not like we can't call this here. 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:32.400 Too many too many flights. Yeh, let him play. 0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.440 I agree. All right, let's open up the phones, and 0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:36.840 thanks so much for waiting on, holl We had a 0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:38.680 lot to get out about this game and finally a 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:42.200 win to talk about some positives right to come away 0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:44.680 from this game. So if you guys are still hanging on, 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:47.440 we appreciate it. Eddie is in La. What's up about Eddie? 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:51.680 What's going on? Guys doing well? 0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:52.240 Yep? 0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:54.200 You two went by the team last Sunday. Man. 0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:58.200 That was very enjoyable football to watch from them, really enjoyable. 0:58:58.600 --> 0:58:58.880 Yeah. 0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:02.240 So what I want to say is the whole thing 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:05.200 he has just brought up with Jalen Rager. Obviously he was, 0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:07.400 you know, a first round pick one before Justin Jefferson. 0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.160 So I feel like that kind of talent, whether it 0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:12.080 didn't work out early on in his career or not. 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:15.160 I feel like that's just talent that you can't ignore. 0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:17.600 And what I want to know from you guys is 0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:19.800 just what have the Patriots seen that the Egles and 0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:23.840 Vikings couldn't see in him that made the Patriots sign 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:25.080 him on the fifty three men roster. 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:28.040 Yeah, thanks for asking the question, Eddie, because I did 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.560 want to touch on this subject. So a good question. 0:59:30.920 --> 0:59:33.440 I think that there's a couple things I asked Belichick 0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.720 about this yesterday. I think we all had it. I'm 0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:38.480 not like I wasn't like revolutionary and thinking that they 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:41.160 might sign him to the fifty three man roster. So 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.800 Belichick mentioned plays in practice, like he was he's flashing 0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:47.760 in practice and making plays on the scout team, and 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:50.520 then that kind of translated into all right, let's put 0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:52.360 him into our offense a little bit and see if 0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:54.680 he makes plays in our offense. But I think the 0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:58.480 biggest thing is is, you know, obviously the practice habits 0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:02.280 everybody that we've talked to, Mac Jones, Bill Belichick, Bill 1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:04.440 O'Brien has pointed to the fact that he's made plays 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:08.440 in practice. But I would also just mention that they 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:10.960 needed some speed on the outside, and if it's not 1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:13.600 going to come from Taekwon because of reasons that I 1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:16.840 just broke down, they needed it from someplace else. And 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:19.320 I think that that's been the revelation to me with 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:24.840 Bill O'Brien is that he has recognized when we're Parker, Juju, 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:29.800 Henry Giesicki, and even if we put out Pop Douglas 1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:34.520 or Kendrick Born in that grouping, that's probably the slowest 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:39.120 twelve personnel grouping in the NFL. It's just there's no 1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:43.760 speed on the field. There's Kendrick Bourne type speed like explosiveness, 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:48.360 but there's no actual vertical element to that grouping other 1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:50.919 than like a jump ball to Devonte Parker, which let's 1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:53.320 face it is not efficient and really doesn't do any good. 1:00:53.760 --> 1:00:57.360 So Jalen Rager adds that element to it, and I 1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:02.520 think that they've really welcome that and rightfully so. I 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:04.920 also think, you know, in terms of him versus Taekwon, 1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:06.960 because that's really where the battle is, right you know, 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:11.680 it's two speed guys who can win that job. Jalen 1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:14.400 Rager and the opportunities that he has got, I think 1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:19.000 has been a decent blocker. He Honestly, he sprung Pop 1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:21.720 Douglas on the jetsweep like that was his block on 1:01:21.800 --> 1:01:24.840 Pop Douglas's man is a reason why Pop was able 1:01:24.880 --> 1:01:27.440 to turn the corner. So I think he's made some 1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:29.800 good blocks. And you know, Taekwon is just not going 1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:31.120 to be a guy that's going to be a high 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:35.440 level blocker because of his size. So better blocker than Taekwon, 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:39.440 A good vertical element, good speed. I think that that's 1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.840 what they've seen in Rager, and I'm interested to see 1:01:41.920 --> 1:01:46.040 how his role expands or doesn't moving forward and what 1:01:46.440 --> 1:01:49.280 they really look at with Devonte Parker and Juju. I 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:53.000 think that this is one of the more challenging things 1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:55.480 for this coaching staff the rest of the season, Alex 1:01:55.640 --> 1:02:00.000 is do they have the kahones to sit down there 1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:02.280 two most expensive receivers like that? 1:02:02.520 --> 1:02:02.760 Right? 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:05.560 Not every coaching staff and not every GM is gonna 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.640 be willing to say, let's just eat was it? I 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:13.240 think combined almost twenty million dollars plus of salary on 1:02:13.320 --> 1:02:16.000 these two guys because we have better players, and not 1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:17.440 not every coaching staff would do that. 1:02:17.960 --> 1:02:19.800 Yeah, that's what they're gonna have to do, I'll say 1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:21.680 quickly on rager with the team seas. I don't know 1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:24.800 that they see anything in particular, but they have a 1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:28.200 history of just you know, hey, something made this guy 1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:30.560 a first round pick once upon a time. Yeah, clearly 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:33.880 didn't work out. But maybe it's not that they see it, 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:36.439 but it's it's it's they want to see, right, let's 1:02:36.440 --> 1:02:38.840 see if we can tap into whatever those other teams 1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:41.440 could tap into. We saw them bring Corey Coleman in 1:02:41.480 --> 1:02:43.920 on the practice squad. The Quan tread well, this has 1:02:43.960 --> 1:02:46.640 worked out better. Well, I joke like if Nikhil Harry 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:48.400 hadn't been drafted by them, he probably would have been 1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:49.400 on their at some point. 1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:51.480 I was surprised that you know, who is it that 1:02:51.680 --> 1:02:53.840 was released earlier this year that they didn't bring in. 1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:56.040 I don't know I can, but this is they've done that, 1:02:56.080 --> 1:02:57.560 like they've had a history to it and this one's 1:02:57.640 --> 1:02:59.280 it's working out it And we always say, you know, 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:01.680 people are oh, they signed Corey Coleman, Like why aren't 1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:03.160 they actually trying to make a move. It's like it's 1:03:03.200 --> 1:03:05.600 not this isn't the be all end all, But if 1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:07.600 they hit on one of these guys, and I don't 1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:11.720 know that they've hit on Raager, but it's a numbers game. 1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:14.720 As for what they need to going forward, I said 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:15.120 it before. 1:03:15.200 --> 1:03:15.840 I think the. 1:03:15.920 --> 1:03:18.880 Usage distribution last week is what it needs to be. 1:03:19.640 --> 1:03:21.720 Kendrick Borne should still play the most. I really like 1:03:21.840 --> 1:03:24.760 Pop Douglas, but he is still a rookie. Kendrick Porn 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:26.320 has that chemistry with Mac Jones. 1:03:26.640 --> 1:03:27.480 He's your best receiver. 1:03:27.560 --> 1:03:29.440 That's a guy needs to be on the field. What 1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:31.400 he played ninety eight percent of the snaps, ninety six 1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:34.760 percent of the snaps yea over ninety percent. Jamarow Douglas 1:03:34.800 --> 1:03:37.240 is your second receiver in twelve because he can create 1:03:37.240 --> 1:03:39.240 with the ball in his hands, and you need that 1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:42.040 for the offense to function. When you go to eleven, 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:48.640 it should be an equal rotation situationally between Juju Smith Schuster, 1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:50.520 Devonte Parker and Jalen Rayer. 1:03:51.080 --> 1:03:54.040 I don't even think Jujus Smith Schuster should. Juju should 1:03:54.080 --> 1:03:55.080 be in that equation. 1:03:55.240 --> 1:03:57.280 You know what? That's fair? I think Look, Parker and 1:03:57.680 --> 1:03:59.880 and Reager are both You get down in the red 1:04:00.640 --> 1:04:02.080 he gets turn in the red zone. Parker gives you 1:04:02.120 --> 1:04:03.560 some size. You want to throw him on the field. 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:04.160 Yeah? 1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:05.960 Fine, I think what do you play last week like 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:08.760 twenty snaps. Yeah, that's about right. Rager gives you that 1:04:08.800 --> 1:04:11.000 speed element. He also blocks his ass off, which kind 1:04:11.000 --> 1:04:13.440 of came out of nowhere. But sure, Yeah, we'll have 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:14.920 to gonna be if you want to. If you want 1:04:14.960 --> 1:04:17.240 to knock Juju out of the rotation entirely, I wouldn't be. Well, 1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:19.360 I just think they're good, they're going to but like 1:04:19.760 --> 1:04:23.200 at the most, yeah, at the most, he's your third 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:26.040 receiver and eleven when you're in between the twenties. 1:04:26.240 --> 1:04:31.040 I just don't see how so just positionally, yeah, x 1:04:31.160 --> 1:04:34.840 Z F right X. He's not an ex Juju. He's 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:37.040 never been an X, so you're not playing him in 1:04:37.080 --> 1:04:39.560 that position. That's Parker or that's Jalen Rager. 1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:40.600 Yeah, Z. 1:04:42.000 --> 1:04:44.200 You have two guys right now and born in Douglas 1:04:44.240 --> 1:04:47.040 who are better Z receivers than he is. And you 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:49.800 also can say that if one of them is playing 1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:51.920 the Z, the other is a better F receiver than right. 1:04:51.960 --> 1:04:54.400 I think so like where Juju has to play the 1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:55.600 Z or the F like those of the. 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:58.760 You're probably doing something with like condensed formations or something. 1:04:59.080 --> 1:05:01.680 I just I I don't see how he like how 1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:04.280 he fits that's fair, right, that's fair. But no, it's 1:05:04.320 --> 1:05:08.200 it's Kendrick Bourne's your number one. Yeah, Kendrick Warborne period, 1:05:08.480 --> 1:05:10.840 end of sentence. Should not come off the field except 1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:13.840 for the big body goal line package. Yeah, Tomorrow Douglas 1:05:13.920 --> 1:05:18.600 is your second receiver clearly, Yep, Parker Rager. Those are 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:20.560 your thirds. You kind of pick and choose based on 1:05:20.600 --> 1:05:23.880 matchups and situations. I don't need to see Juju. I 1:05:23.960 --> 1:05:25.919 kind of just put him in that group because they're 1:05:25.960 --> 1:05:28.520 gonna play him. Yeah, and he shouldn't be anything more 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:30.760 than rotating equally with those other two guys. 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:31.720 Yeah. 1:05:31.840 --> 1:05:35.800 The other things I'd say about the usage they when 1:05:35.800 --> 1:05:40.040 they went to twelve, Yeah, it was almost always Pharaoh 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:41.160 Brown as one of the tight ends. 1:05:41.240 --> 1:05:41.360 Right. 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:43.760 I wonder if that was because Hunter Henry's banged up. 1:05:43.800 --> 1:05:46.640 I think that's part of it. Yeah, But I like 1:05:46.680 --> 1:05:49.440 what I want Pharaoh Brown on the field. Not all 1:05:49.480 --> 1:05:51.720 the time, you not, I mean, but like I think 1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:53.680 he's like I think he had like a thirty seven 1:05:53.760 --> 1:05:56.600 percent usage rate last week. It was like high thirties. Yeah, 1:05:56.800 --> 1:06:00.440 that's excellent right there. And I like him on the 1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:01.560 field with another tight end. 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:04.040 You have me too, And because he can play that 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:06.960 in line and he can you can keep him into block. 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:09.680 He can block in the run game, and that allows 1:06:09.760 --> 1:06:12.480 Kasiki and Henry to not have as much stress in 1:06:12.520 --> 1:06:15.360 the blocking game, right whether they're running the football or 1:06:15.480 --> 1:06:17.560 they're asking him to chip, or they're asking him to 1:06:17.760 --> 1:06:20.400 you know, double a great pass rusher or whatever the 1:06:20.440 --> 1:06:23.240 case may be. As we saw against the Raiders and 1:06:23.280 --> 1:06:25.080 the and the safety at the end of the game, 1:06:25.560 --> 1:06:29.600 Kasiki is is is useless as a blocker. We all 1:06:29.680 --> 1:06:32.360 knew this coming in, but I think they're really figuring 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:36.040 that out now. And Henry has is better than Kasiki, 1:06:36.160 --> 1:06:39.240 but he's still in the useless cat. 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:41.680 And he's banged up and he's banged so like the 1:06:41.720 --> 1:06:44.560 other thing about the other thing about Favor Brown we've 1:06:44.560 --> 1:06:46.800 talked about, like the buying of the offense and all that. 1:06:46.800 --> 1:06:49.040 That dude's out there to win a ball game. You what, 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:51.600 he's I love me some Pharaoh Brown. I know that 1:06:51.800 --> 1:06:54.160 the way he's he's I mean, he's carrying guys on 1:06:54.200 --> 1:06:55.280 his back after catch the ball. 1:06:55.320 --> 1:06:57.160 He's breaking every time he touches the ball. It's an 1:06:57.200 --> 1:07:00.240 explosive but every time, but like crazy, I've never seen 1:07:00.280 --> 1:07:00.680 anything like it. 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:00.880 No. 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:03.160 But it's also like if you watch him between the plays, Yeah, 1:07:03.240 --> 1:07:05.080 Like there were a couple times down in the red 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:07.920 zone he's getting into it with the Bills defenders. He's 1:07:07.920 --> 1:07:11.880 not taking any any any big yes. Right. And the 1:07:11.880 --> 1:07:13.880 other thing I liked when they were down on the 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:16.640 goal line running the ball. There was one they ran 1:07:16.680 --> 1:07:18.120 it from like the five or six and they got 1:07:18.120 --> 1:07:20.520 down to like the two. Yeah, and you see, Bob 1:07:20.560 --> 1:07:22.360 Socy pointed out to me, he's a really good observation. 1:07:22.760 --> 1:07:25.720 Pharaoh Brown turns to the sideline and gives them like 1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:28.520 a hey, give it to us again, don't throw the ball, 1:07:28.720 --> 1:07:29.400 keep the big group. 1:07:29.440 --> 1:07:32.880 And then they end up putting like a smaller package 1:07:32.920 --> 1:07:33.200 out there. 1:07:33.240 --> 1:07:36.040 Yeah, and he's like, yeah, you know, he wants to 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:38.960 run the ball, get in the trenches, get nasty. The 1:07:38.960 --> 1:07:40.840 team needs a little that they need a little bit 1:07:40.880 --> 1:07:42.240 of that edge. He brings a little bit of that. 1:07:42.240 --> 1:07:45.720 Edge just quickly. All three tight ends are free agents 1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:49.320 at the end of the year, correct, all three tight ends. 1:07:49.720 --> 1:07:53.640 I think for Hunter Henry, to me, Hunter Henry is 1:07:53.640 --> 1:07:57.000 a prime franchise tag candidate. Yeah, the franchise tag for 1:07:57.040 --> 1:08:00.000 the tight ends are reasonable. It's I think thirteen million 1:08:00.400 --> 1:08:02.560 is the projection right now for next year, which is 1:08:02.560 --> 1:08:05.120 basically what he's making now, right, So you're not giving 1:08:05.160 --> 1:08:08.240 him a substantial phrase at his age and in the 1:08:08.280 --> 1:08:09.920 wear and tear, because he's been in the league and 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:12.480 played a lot of football. You're not giving him another 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:16.840 a three year deal where you're maybe risking two in 1:08:16.960 --> 1:08:19.240 years two and three not being as good as year one, 1:08:19.960 --> 1:08:23.280 and you're making sure you're keeping some continuity with that room, 1:08:23.320 --> 1:08:25.840 which I think is important. So Hunter Henry looks like 1:08:25.840 --> 1:08:28.639 a nice franchise tag guy. I would say, Pharao O'Brien 1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:31.280 looks like a nice signing, like a return. 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:33.880 And I'll say this, he loves playing with Bill O'Brien 1:08:34.160 --> 1:08:35.800 like he played with Bill O'Brien in Houston. He just 1:08:35.960 --> 1:08:38.519 talked about that and that was his best season when 1:08:38.520 --> 1:08:40.840 he was with Bill O'Brien Houston until that. 1:08:40.960 --> 1:08:41.120 Right. 1:08:41.160 --> 1:08:43.640 Well, that's is assuming Bill O'Brien still here, which is 1:08:43.680 --> 1:08:46.439 another conversation for another time. That's the guy that you 1:08:46.960 --> 1:08:49.040 might be able to get to take a little less 1:08:49.040 --> 1:08:49.680 money to come back. 1:08:49.760 --> 1:08:52.160 Yeah, I like it all right. Johnson, Louisiana, what's up, John? 1:08:54.160 --> 1:08:58.400 Hey, Hey, I got some quid things that'll Sunday was 1:08:58.439 --> 1:09:02.719 my first time after the game, and about the motion, 1:09:02.840 --> 1:09:06.439 you think that helped Mag kind of identify with the 1:09:06.479 --> 1:09:08.439 defensive end. That's kind of with Tom Brady, you feel 1:09:08.439 --> 1:09:11.000 like someone And was that like kind of a those things. 1:09:11.880 --> 1:09:15.000 Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. You know that that definitely helps. 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:17.720 I think not just Mac, but they're receivers too, and 1:09:17.720 --> 1:09:20.920 there's so much conversions in this offense based off of 1:09:20.960 --> 1:09:25.120 man and zone. So when they motion, if it gets followed, 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:27.840 then they they typically know it's man. If it doesn't, 1:09:27.880 --> 1:09:30.559 then they probably know its zone and that definitely helps. 1:09:30.560 --> 1:09:32.599 And the shifting can help with that too, like not 1:09:32.720 --> 1:09:35.240 just motion, but also you know, just like shifting the 1:09:35.280 --> 1:09:38.519 formation that that also can help and be coverage tail 1:09:38.600 --> 1:09:40.080 or indicator to the quarterback. 1:09:41.960 --> 1:09:44.559 Yeah, I was like, man, Mag is doing to man man. 1:09:44.880 --> 1:09:47.320 I was really like it. But Alex Man, you don't 1:09:47.320 --> 1:09:49.519 know how much you made me look at the game different. 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:51.920 I was so hyped for social teams that take that 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:55.000 bright there before the first half. I was like literally 1:09:55.120 --> 1:09:57.200 yelling like yeah talking about. 1:09:57.000 --> 1:09:58.280 Man, I love that. 1:09:58.320 --> 1:10:00.800 All right, go there it go, you just hit you hit, 1:10:02.200 --> 1:10:04.120 go ahead now. 1:10:04.200 --> 1:10:07.920 I was just so high because Alex, you know that team. 1:10:08.200 --> 1:10:10.400 He was just talking about Bryce so much. I'm like, man, 1:10:10.400 --> 1:10:14.000 I'm just waiting today that specific kick, man, and it 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:15.559 could have never been no better. 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:15.680 Man. 1:10:15.680 --> 1:10:18.080 I was literally yelling like, yeah, Bryce. 1:10:17.960 --> 1:10:18.200 Let's go. 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:19.800 There we go. 1:10:19.880 --> 1:10:21.800 Yeah. No, it was a great kick and they needed 1:10:21.800 --> 1:10:23.120 it too. It was good timing as well. 1:10:23.240 --> 1:10:25.720 Yeah, thanks for the call, John, and that that's that's 1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:28.320 the show right there, right. You asked me a question 1:10:28.360 --> 1:10:30.959 about motion, and you ask Alex a question about about. 1:10:30.720 --> 1:10:31.599 Bryce Baron good. 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:33.920 I like that. There we go, all right. Todd's in 1:10:33.960 --> 1:10:37.519 North Carolina. What's up Todd? Well, Miss Todd. I left 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:39.559 him on hole for a while. Jeff is in Vain. 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:40.240 What's up, Jeff? 1:10:41.640 --> 1:10:43.120 Hey, you doing guys? Good? 1:10:44.680 --> 1:10:45.080 Uh? 1:10:45.160 --> 1:10:47.360 So I said it in week two and we didn't 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:49.000 do it, so I'm gonna say it again. 1:10:49.520 --> 1:10:49.640 Uh. 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:56.640 And I'm wondering what you think with Miami running the 1:10:56.640 --> 1:11:01.200 ball so effectively, because so many teams have to put 1:11:01.240 --> 1:11:03.439 sony players in the back end and they're running against 1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:07.639 such right boxes, doesn't it make more sense to play 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:09.920 mark tame off to the second level if you can't 1:11:10.000 --> 1:11:12.680 put enough players in the box to clog all the 1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:15.240 holes at least put a backer in there who has 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:18.479 the speeding first to close on somebody like Poster if 1:11:18.520 --> 1:11:20.240 they do break through one of the holes. 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.519 Thanks guys, Yeah, John, thanks for the call, and yeah 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:25.519 we can get into Miami now. I think that that's 1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:28.280 a good point in something that you know, I was 1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:30.839 a little frustrated with the game plan if you remember 1:11:30.920 --> 1:11:35.000 Alex the first time around against Miami, just sitting off 1:11:35.000 --> 1:11:37.439 in those three safety shells and and kind of just 1:11:37.520 --> 1:11:41.679 you know, really not disrupting the timing of the offense 1:11:41.760 --> 1:11:44.519 like that, to me is that's Tua. Like Tua is 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:47.680 a rhythm based thrower, right, Like Tua wants everything to 1:11:47.720 --> 1:11:49.680 be on time. He wants to get the ball out 1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:51.599 of his hands. And I felt like the game plan 1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:55.320 the first time around, I just really allowed him to 1:11:55.400 --> 1:11:59.080 do that and it ate them up. And uh, I 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:02.080 just feel like that's something that they have to do 1:12:02.160 --> 1:12:04.160 this time around, is trying to disrupt the timing a 1:12:04.200 --> 1:12:04.559 little bit. 1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:07.240 Yeah, absolutely, they got to do more. And that's why 1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:09.400 I think that they can maybe borrow a little bit 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:11.679 from that game plan last week of just how much 1:12:11.720 --> 1:12:16.160 they harassed, how much they harassed Josh Allen and if 1:12:16.200 --> 1:12:17.280 they can do some of that to too it. You 1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:19.360 know. 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See DraftKings 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:50.959 dot com for details. 1:16:53.200 --> 1:16:56.680 Catch Alex my body or a week eight of the 1:16:56.880 --> 1:16:59.760 NFL season. We're right in the middle of it now 1:16:59.840 --> 1:17:02.920 and I feel like I am I am in decline. 1:17:03.320 --> 1:17:06.639 My body is giving out on me. Not good, not good, 1:17:06.880 --> 1:17:10.320 bad bad neck. Just had to break in the middle 1:17:10.320 --> 1:17:14.280 of the show for a quick, quick bathroom break. Just terrible. 1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:14.960 You're an old man. 1:17:15.080 --> 1:17:18.120 Terrible, absolutely terrible. I need to be I need to 1:17:18.320 --> 1:17:22.200 need some sleep. Maybe maybe that's totally yeah, all right, 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:24.519 let's get into Miami. I'm glad we we tee that up. 1:17:26.280 --> 1:17:29.120 I know, I know we'll get into them. Uh So, 1:17:29.280 --> 1:17:31.680 the big caveat with everything that we talk about with 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:35.519 Miami is are the Dolphins actually gonna show up to 1:17:35.560 --> 1:17:37.680 this game? Or are they all gonna be, like, you know, 1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:42.480 on crutches on the sideline, right, like, so the Dolphins 1:17:42.600 --> 1:17:45.880 and uh, you know, in some ways it's like, okay, 1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:48.040 well this gives a Patriots a real chance to win 1:17:48.080 --> 1:17:50.840 this game. In other ways, I always hate like that, 1:17:51.200 --> 1:17:53.320 you know, because now it has an asterisk, right if 1:17:53.360 --> 1:17:55.960 you beat the Dolphins down in Miami, which is another 1:17:56.000 --> 1:17:58.680 win that's like a monkey off their back there zero 1:17:58.720 --> 1:18:03.920 to five against Tua in his career. They that stadium 1:18:04.040 --> 1:18:06.599 is a house of horrors for them, even way before 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:09.040 our time, right like the going all the way back. 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:12.720 So it it kind of stinks that if you beat 1:18:12.720 --> 1:18:15.920 the Dolphins with their CE team or C squad or 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:18.479 whatever you want to call it. But I want to 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:20.800 talk about it a little bit assuming Tyreek Hill is 1:18:20.800 --> 1:18:22.400 going to play, but I also want to talk about 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:26.320 it in assuming he's not, which I think based off 1:18:26.360 --> 1:18:30.280 of the reporting down there yesterday, it definitely sounds like 1:18:30.479 --> 1:18:34.200 not playing is more likely at this point. So just 1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:36.719 your reaction to that and how that kind of changes 1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:37.400 this entire game. 1:18:37.439 --> 1:18:41.000 I mean, look, we know the Dolphins offense is what 1:18:41.040 --> 1:18:44.960 it is in yeah, in the the schematics of it 1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:47.880 and Mike McDaniel, but that only works if you have 1:18:47.880 --> 1:18:51.080 the players to execute it, and Tyreek Hill might be 1:18:51.120 --> 1:18:54.000 out or he moster didn't practice. Jalen Waddle is dealing 1:18:54.040 --> 1:18:54.880 with a bad back. 1:18:55.160 --> 1:18:58.240 Yeah, who's left. 1:18:58.680 --> 1:19:01.519 Who's like, it's not gonna look the say with Braxon 1:19:01.520 --> 1:19:05.600 Burials and Preston Wilson, Yeah, Cedric Wilson whoever it is. 1:19:06.000 --> 1:19:08.439 Preston Williams was also an ex DOLF. 1:19:08.439 --> 1:19:11.360 That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, okay, will early, it's before 1:19:11.400 --> 1:19:15.000 noon still yeah, no it it not. Having Tyreek Hill 1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:18.160 and Jalen Waddle being banged up changes a tone. It 1:19:18.280 --> 1:19:23.160 changes a ton because will those concepts work with lesser players? 1:19:23.160 --> 1:19:25.439 Do the Dolphins have to change their offense, which McDaniel 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:28.160 probably doesn't want to do. The other one. That's a 1:19:28.200 --> 1:19:31.320 sneaky big injury in those and it's gonna sound weird 1:19:31.320 --> 1:19:35.360 to people, but if you've been following along, the Dolphins 1:19:35.400 --> 1:19:38.839 put Isaiah Win on ir was that yesterday or on Monday? 1:19:38.920 --> 1:19:40.880 Yeah? Whatever it was. Yeah, this week. 1:19:40.920 --> 1:19:43.679 Isaiah Win was really good in that first game against 1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:44.240 the Patriots. 1:19:44.320 --> 1:19:47.360 Yeah, I mean he's been he's been serviceable for them 1:19:47.360 --> 1:19:51.320 at guard. Well so that his backup is Lester Cotton, 1:19:51.320 --> 1:19:52.600 who is not serviceable. 1:19:53.600 --> 1:19:56.479 But he was He's been fine for them at left card. 1:19:56.479 --> 1:19:58.160 But that Patriots game, he was the best game of 1:19:58.160 --> 1:20:00.519 the year. Yeah, he played well, didn't allow me pressures. 1:20:00.520 --> 1:20:04.840 Just one penalty, Yeah, you just one that happens. You 1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:07.679 look at the way well compared to his time here. 1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:11.440 You look at the way Christian Barmore is playing right now. Yeah, 1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:14.400 where and their starting center is on the injury report 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:16.280 as well. He's banged up. I think he practiced yesterday, 1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:17.439 but he's gotta put the injury report. 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:20.519 No, you know he is. Connor Williams is their starting center, 1:20:21.080 --> 1:20:23.400 and it sounds like Leon Eikenberg is going to play 1:20:23.439 --> 1:20:24.760 center again for them this week. 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:28.760 Who's not a center? No, So I don't want to 1:20:28.760 --> 1:20:31.360 admit like losing Tyreek Hilt would be that's the biggest 1:20:31.360 --> 1:20:37.479 loss right there. But if they're down center and left 1:20:37.479 --> 1:20:40.000 guard against a defensive line that played the way it 1:20:40.000 --> 1:20:42.439 did last week, they're already on a backup left tackle 1:20:42.439 --> 1:20:46.160 toront Armstead's on ir that that could be as big 1:20:46.160 --> 1:20:50.160 as anything because you think and most are played last 1:20:50.160 --> 1:20:53.640 week and maybe he's fine, all right, Tyreek Hill's banged up, 1:20:53.680 --> 1:20:55.640 Jalen Wadall's banged up. They still run the ball and 1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:56.920 use the speed that way. And it's I think it's 1:20:56.920 --> 1:21:00.280 supposed to rain in Miami, which is rare, but it's 1:21:00.320 --> 1:21:02.000 not rare that it rains in Miami. But it's supposed 1:21:02.040 --> 1:21:04.360 to rain the whole day. It's not what he's passing 1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:07.479 South Florida showers all right, it's raining. You don't receivers 1:21:07.520 --> 1:21:10.880 are gonna run the ball lift the offensive line is 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:15.080 three fifths backups, four fifths backups. That's not going to 1:21:15.120 --> 1:21:17.640 be so easy either. Yeah, Now, Patrin's stuff to take 1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:18.960 care of business when they have the football. We can 1:21:19.000 --> 1:21:23.599 get into that. But on every single level, we kind 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:25.800 of came into the season when we previewed all the 1:21:25.840 --> 1:21:28.519 AFCAST teams. My thing on the Dolphins was, let's see 1:21:28.520 --> 1:21:30.200 if two is healthy. That's what it comes down to. 1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:33.960 Two is healthy, but nobody else is right, and that's 1:21:34.000 --> 1:21:34.680 a problem too. 1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:39.360 So with all the injuries aside, I al see, it 1:21:39.439 --> 1:21:42.800 is worth mentioning that two oh was three and zero 1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:46.559 against the Patriots in the Brian floor a z Era 1:21:46.720 --> 1:21:50.240 two right, like without Tyreek Hill, without Mike McDaniel. So 1:21:50.280 --> 1:21:55.120 he's beating you with without an incredible supporting cast. But 1:21:55.640 --> 1:21:57.880 I think the two things about it is, and you're 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:01.400 one hundred percent right when it comes to the offensive line. 1:22:02.120 --> 1:22:04.960 This Dolphins offense, and I would say the same thing 1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:08.240 about most Shanahan teams, like the San Francisco forty nine 1:22:08.320 --> 1:22:11.200 ers are the same way as talented as they are 1:22:11.240 --> 1:22:14.439 at the skill positions. It all runs through the offensive line, 1:22:14.920 --> 1:22:17.040 it all runs through the blocking schemes, and it all 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:21.000 runs through the offensive line. So if you can it's 1:22:21.040 --> 1:22:23.640 just you know, it's not like anything revolution like. It's 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:26.160 the same for a lot of great passing offenses. If 1:22:26.160 --> 1:22:32.040 you can disrupt and get pressure and take over the 1:22:32.080 --> 1:22:34.760 line of scrimmage in this game, then you're gonna have 1:22:34.800 --> 1:22:36.960 a much better chance to beat them. Whether they have 1:22:37.000 --> 1:22:39.160 Tyreek kill or they don't. Right like that, that's just 1:22:39.200 --> 1:22:43.080 the bottom line. So in Week three, Week two, excuse me, 1:22:43.120 --> 1:22:46.280 the first time that they played the Dolphins here, they 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:51.160 I thought that their game plan had sound reasoning behind it. 1:22:51.240 --> 1:22:54.880 I understood what they were trying to accomplish with the lights, 1:22:55.000 --> 1:22:57.400 you know, the soft zone and the light boxes and 1:22:57.439 --> 1:22:59.559 the three deep safety look they came out with in 1:22:59.600 --> 1:23:02.840 the open drive from Miami. But like I mentioned before 1:23:02.840 --> 1:23:07.280 the break, the issue with it was that the timing 1:23:07.360 --> 1:23:10.200 of the offense and getting the ball out of his 1:23:10.280 --> 1:23:14.320 hands and hitting the quick underneath throws and setting up 1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:18.000 the yac plays. That's Tua's bread and butter, like that's 1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:21.679 that's how he plays his best. So, yes, you kept 1:23:21.680 --> 1:23:25.120 the top on the defense. They had one deep pass completion, 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:28.360 They had a couple of like mini explosives, but they 1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:31.160 didn't have any of those like seventy five yard Tyreek 1:23:31.200 --> 1:23:34.679 Hill just running through everybody and see you later. Those 1:23:34.720 --> 1:23:37.680 types of plays. Yeah, they took those away, but what 1:23:37.760 --> 1:23:40.879 they didn't take away was the fact that Tua averaged 1:23:40.920 --> 1:23:44.200 I think two point zero eight seconds and time to 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:48.919 throw in that game sixty or no excuse me, seventy 1:23:49.000 --> 1:23:51.840 percent of his throws came out in under two and 1:23:51.880 --> 1:23:55.400 a half seconds. Yeah, he was just carving you up 1:23:55.560 --> 1:23:58.559 and hitting the top of his drop, getting the ball 1:23:58.600 --> 1:24:03.439 out immediately. Those types of throws are that's too a 1:24:03.840 --> 1:24:07.680 that's that's his comfort zone. It might their offense might 1:24:07.720 --> 1:24:10.960 be more explosive than that, but the quarterback thrives in 1:24:11.080 --> 1:24:11.800 that type of way. 1:24:11.880 --> 1:24:14.519 And the reason they're able to do that is they 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:19.760 have these receivers Tyreek Kill, Jalen Waddle yack monsters. Well, yes, 1:24:20.520 --> 1:24:24.120 elite release packages, because you can't throw the ball in 1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:27.040 two seconds if nobody's open and it's not easy to 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:27.800 get open that quick. 1:24:27.880 --> 1:24:29.120 Yeah, burst off the line. 1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:33.080 So if those guys are well, if Heill's not playing 1:24:33.160 --> 1:24:37.160 and Waddle's playing, hurt. Yeah, if I'm the pain, this 1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:40.800 sounds kind of concert counter to what you would normally 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:44.360 do against Miami? Do you jam them a little bit 1:24:44.400 --> 1:24:45.080 this week? That? 1:24:46.360 --> 1:24:48.479 Yes, And I would do it even if those guys 1:24:48.479 --> 1:24:49.800 were out there and at one hundred. 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:51.400 Per just because of the offensive line. 1:24:51.439 --> 1:24:54.080 So the strategy against the Dolphins that has worked the 1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:59.400 most is two man two man coverage. So you're playing 1:24:59.640 --> 1:25:02.479 two d keep safeties with man coverage underneath it. 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:02.800 Yeah. 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:05.519 And the reason why a lot of teams so two 1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:07.680 man is probably one of the least popular coverages to 1:25:07.720 --> 1:25:10.960 play in the NFL. The reason why, the reason why 1:25:10.960 --> 1:25:13.160 a lot of teams don't play two man is because 1:25:13.160 --> 1:25:15.639 there's nobody to account for the quarterback. So if you're 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:18.680 facing a mobile quarterback, you can't play too man. 1:25:19.160 --> 1:25:20.800 You can do two men with a spy, but then 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:21.719 you have like no pass. 1:25:21.600 --> 1:25:24.120 Rush you really can't. Like then you're really talking about 1:25:24.120 --> 1:25:27.640 like a three man rush. So if you want to 1:25:27.720 --> 1:25:33.280 rush four and you want to play you know, conventional 1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:36.240 defense that way, in terms of the pass rush, you 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:40.240 can't play two men against a mobile quarterback. So playing 1:25:40.240 --> 1:25:45.400 two men against Buffalo is no disaster, right, Like, You're 1:25:45.400 --> 1:25:48.919 not gonna do that playing two man against Lamar Jackson 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:51.519 like just like ha, like what do you? What the 1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:56.280 heck are you doing? Tua is not somebody that I'm 1:25:56.360 --> 1:25:59.960 too worried about beating you with his legs. If that's 1:26:00.080 --> 1:26:02.120 how they're beating you, you chal that up as a win. 1:26:02.280 --> 1:26:02.439 Right. 1:26:02.520 --> 1:26:05.160 So a lot of teams that have had success Philadelphia 1:26:05.200 --> 1:26:09.200 this past week, Buffalo last year, like the Chargers like 1:26:10.040 --> 1:26:13.680 randomly had a great game against this Dolphins offense, a 1:26:13.680 --> 1:26:15.840 lot of those teams have played two man. So you 1:26:15.880 --> 1:26:18.679 play two deep safeties and you put those guys over 1:26:18.720 --> 1:26:21.040 the top to help against the verticals, and then you 1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:24.720 play inside leverage man to man. So the other thing 1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:27.559 along with rhythm throws right and alongo with getting the 1:26:27.560 --> 1:26:29.519 ball out of his hands quickly, the other thing that 1:26:29.560 --> 1:26:31.599 TWOA loves to do is to throw in breaking routes. 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:35.320 That's that offense, right. Yeah, So the three most the 1:26:35.360 --> 1:26:38.520 guys that throw in breaking routes at the highest percentage 1:26:39.280 --> 1:26:42.000 in the league. I bet you you could guess it 1:26:42.479 --> 1:26:44.040 because it's all Shanahan guys. 1:26:44.160 --> 1:26:50.640 Yeah, Tua Purdy yeah, and Wilson Jets, Jared Goff, oh 1:26:50.680 --> 1:26:53.760 close enough. Those they don't have those kind of I 1:26:53.800 --> 1:26:54.200 guess they do. 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:58.880 So if you play two man one, you can jam 1:26:58.880 --> 1:27:01.080 at the line of scrimmage to throw off the timing, right, 1:27:01.120 --> 1:27:02.639 so now he's got to hold the ball and wait 1:27:02.680 --> 1:27:05.639 for it to develop. Two you can try to force 1:27:05.720 --> 1:27:07.880 to it to throw the ball outside the numbers. And 1:27:07.920 --> 1:27:10.400 I'm not talking about verticals outside the numbers. I'm talking 1:27:10.400 --> 1:27:14.439 about like outs, flats, like things outside the numbers. So 1:27:14.880 --> 1:27:17.120 that way, there you protect the inside of the field, 1:27:17.479 --> 1:27:20.320 you protect against the verticals, and you make them beat 1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:24.519 you throwing you know, twelve yard outs to the brax 1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:27.800 and barrios right like or whatever. If they beat you 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:29.320 that way, then you just have to tip the cap 1:27:29.400 --> 1:27:33.559 and say good job, you did it right. So the 1:27:33.640 --> 1:27:35.920 other thing that the Eagles did along with the timing. 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:37.800 So I think that this is like the reason why 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:40.559 I bring up the coverage is because I think Philly 1:27:41.040 --> 1:27:45.360 people watch that game and they watch Phillies front dominate 1:27:45.680 --> 1:27:49.000 the Dolphins offensive line, and they said, the reason why 1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:53.000 Philly won that game and shut down the Miami offense 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:56.839 was because they have that defensive front. Their pass rushers 1:27:56.840 --> 1:28:00.720 are insane. You know, Reddick, the rookie forget his name 1:28:00.720 --> 1:28:05.599 for some j Jalen Carter. Those guys are awesome. There's 1:28:05.640 --> 1:28:09.040 some truth to that, absolutely, But they weren't allowing to 1:28:09.040 --> 1:28:10.519 to get the ball out of his hands quickly. They 1:28:10.520 --> 1:28:12.800 made him hold the football and that was because of 1:28:12.800 --> 1:28:15.599 the way that they played coverage. So the other wrinkle 1:28:15.680 --> 1:28:18.360 that they did and Sean Decide, you know, got a 1:28:18.360 --> 1:28:21.240 lot of his own flowers this week for his game 1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:27.320 plan against Miami, Shandacida also played tilted coverage, so he 1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:31.440 tilted the deep safeties to Tyree Kill's side of the field. 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:35.200 So the biggest issue with playing two men against Miami 1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:37.920 is that if you play that coverage and you play 1:28:38.080 --> 1:28:41.320 the corner inside shade on the receiver, all that they'll 1:28:41.360 --> 1:28:43.400 do is they'll just run fades to the sideline for 1:28:43.479 --> 1:28:46.799 Tyree Kill and the safety that's midpointing or playing the half, 1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:49.240 he has a long way to go right to impact 1:28:49.240 --> 1:28:52.280 that throw. So what the the Eagles did is they 1:28:52.280 --> 1:28:55.200 put the safety on the numbers and they just put 1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:58.720 him right over the fade, so that way there, it 1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:03.719 had to go underneath and to the outside. So hold 1:29:03.720 --> 1:29:07.360 the football and then limit the yards after the catch, right, 1:29:07.400 --> 1:29:10.479 That's what Philly did. They pressure to it by holding 1:29:10.479 --> 1:29:13.559 the football. They limit the yards after the catch, and 1:29:13.640 --> 1:29:15.519 they took away the bread and butter routes. They didn't 1:29:15.560 --> 1:29:19.280 let them hit those skinnies. You know they love skinny posts, crossers, verticals. 1:29:19.320 --> 1:29:21.439 They didn't let him hit those routes. And that's how 1:29:21.439 --> 1:29:23.880 you shut down Miami. So if you can do that 1:29:23.920 --> 1:29:26.120 in this game, and I think you do that almost 1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:28.559 regardless of whether or not Tyreek kills out there or not, 1:29:28.640 --> 1:29:32.519 because even though the effectiveness with Braxon Barrios and Cedric 1:29:32.520 --> 1:29:34.559 Wilson and those guys is not going to be the same, 1:29:35.120 --> 1:29:37.599 I don't think Mike McDaniel is going to completely reinvent 1:29:37.640 --> 1:29:40.040 his offense on three series. So they're gonna run what 1:29:40.080 --> 1:29:43.040 they're gonna run. And I think that's the main key 1:29:43.600 --> 1:29:46.519 to getting to Tua is to get him to hold 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:50.120 the football and take away the quick game stuff. They 1:29:50.160 --> 1:29:52.880 haven't been able to do that against Tua, even going 1:29:52.920 --> 1:29:56.320 back to Brian Flores, Like remember the first couple games 1:29:56.320 --> 1:29:58.760 against too, it was like all rpo and quick game 1:29:58.800 --> 1:30:01.000 and all this crap, and that they was just getting 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:03.080 the ball out of his hands quickly. And the box 1:30:03.080 --> 1:30:06.400 score numbers weren't like overly impressive, but they controlled the 1:30:06.479 --> 1:30:09.040 pace of the game on offense, and that's kind of 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:10.920 how I thought that the Week two game went. They 1:30:10.920 --> 1:30:13.479 only scored twenty four points, They only had like three 1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:15.640 hundred and eighty yards of offense. It wasn't like this 1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:21.040 big offensive explosion for the Dolphins, but they were extremely 1:30:21.080 --> 1:30:23.679 successful on their plays. I think they were like sixty 1:30:23.720 --> 1:30:27.080 percent success rate, and they just they controlled the pace 1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:30.200 of the game. They controlled possession, they controlled the pace, 1:30:30.520 --> 1:30:33.000 and honestly, like the Patriots really didn't stop them all 1:30:33.000 --> 1:30:36.000 that much. They got the one turnover by Christian Gonzales 1:30:36.280 --> 1:30:38.559 and then they got some nice red zone plays and 1:30:38.600 --> 1:30:40.759 things like that, and to A tripped all over himself 1:30:40.760 --> 1:30:42.960 on one third down in the red zone and that's 1:30:42.960 --> 1:30:46.960 how you get the twenty four. So that's a game plan. Defensively, 1:30:47.200 --> 1:30:51.519 I think against Tua is you have to play man, 1:30:51.720 --> 1:30:53.559 but you have to play with the two deep safeties 1:30:53.560 --> 1:30:55.720 over the top. You play single high against them, you're 1:30:55.720 --> 1:30:56.479 asking for trouble. 1:30:56.840 --> 1:31:00.760 Yeah. I think again, just disrupt the timing pass rush 1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:03.280 will be big this week. I think you gotta get 1:31:03.280 --> 1:31:04.960 in his face that' see. I add to what you said. 1:31:04.960 --> 1:31:06.960 I think he got to get in his face. And 1:31:07.040 --> 1:31:10.479 another thing, hands up in the passing lines. Yeah, it's 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:12.960 something they haven't done as well against him that they 1:31:13.240 --> 1:31:14.200 probably should be. 1:31:14.520 --> 1:31:14.840 Yeah. 1:31:15.120 --> 1:31:16.000 Is he six foot six to. 1:31:16.000 --> 1:31:17.960 One right, Yeah, and he likes to throw over the middle. 1:31:18.479 --> 1:31:21.400 Right, So you're getting this push now, and the Dolphins 1:31:21.439 --> 1:31:22.960 are seeing that on tape and they're gonna be more 1:31:23.000 --> 1:31:25.320 cognizant of that. You gotta be ready when he throws 1:31:25.400 --> 1:31:28.040 ball to get those hands up. Anthony Jennings, he was 1:31:28.080 --> 1:31:29.200 amazing at this in college. 1:31:29.280 --> 1:31:31.439 Yeah, he was. He's a long guy. 1:31:31.640 --> 1:31:33.439 He was as good as knocking passes down the line 1:31:33.479 --> 1:31:35.240 of scrimmed as anybody. When they drafted him, I thought 1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:37.519 it was part of the reason. Uh, you know, get 1:31:37.560 --> 1:31:39.160 him in here and have him just rub some of 1:31:39.200 --> 1:31:41.479 these RPOs, Christian Barmore. If he's gonna be getting that pressure. 1:31:41.560 --> 1:31:43.160 These are guys, by the way they played with Tua 1:31:43.280 --> 1:31:44.720 that will have a good idea of the timing and 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:47.320 what he wants to do. I think this is another game. 1:31:47.400 --> 1:31:49.320 The covered stuff's all important, but especially if you don't 1:31:49.360 --> 1:31:52.639 have Tyreek Hill and Jalen Watdalls banged up. They're also 1:31:52.720 --> 1:31:54.920 healthier at corner than they were in that last matchup. 1:31:54.960 --> 1:31:57.280 Member they they'll have Jack Jones who they didn't have. 1:31:57.320 --> 1:31:59.479 They weren't of Gonzales, but they'll have Jack Jones who 1:31:59.479 --> 1:32:01.640 they didn't have that game, the lift John Jones who 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:03.479 they didn't have in that game, and they'll ja C 1:32:03.600 --> 1:32:04.960 Jackson they hadn't traded for yet. 1:32:05.160 --> 1:32:06.360 Right, it's manageable. 1:32:06.400 --> 1:32:08.160 It's mangible in the back end without Tyreek Kill and 1:32:08.240 --> 1:32:10.439 Jalen Wadle banged up. Doesn't mean it's easy, but it's manageable. 1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:13.760 If that offensive line is banged up as it is, 1:32:14.120 --> 1:32:16.960 they need to get to a scene ghosts in terms 1:32:16.960 --> 1:32:18.439 of the pass rush in this game, and it's something 1:32:18.439 --> 1:32:20.360 I think they can do. That's what I'll be looking 1:32:20.360 --> 1:32:21.800 for first and foremost. 1:32:21.479 --> 1:32:23.679 Last thing, and then we'll take some more of these calls. 1:32:24.640 --> 1:32:26.400 The other thing that the Eagles were able to do 1:32:26.439 --> 1:32:29.240 in that game that the Patriots simply didn't do well 1:32:29.760 --> 1:32:31.600 was stop the run out of light boxes and that 1:32:31.800 --> 1:32:34.000 that's the front, right, that's. 1:32:33.840 --> 1:32:36.400 Where Jawan Bentley shows up. That's where your your hope 1:32:36.439 --> 1:32:38.200 and Jowan Bentley shows up and plays a big game. 1:32:38.280 --> 1:32:40.519 So I thought a huge, huge part of that game 1:32:41.280 --> 1:32:44.360 early on was how well the Eagles played the run 1:32:44.439 --> 1:32:48.599 game against Miami, and Miami then got behind, they basically 1:32:48.600 --> 1:32:50.040 had to go. They only ran the ball I think 1:32:50.080 --> 1:32:53.120 twelve times with their running backs in that game. That 1:32:53.120 --> 1:32:55.639 that's that's a key. Like you have to be able 1:32:55.680 --> 1:32:57.679 to stop the run out of six seven man boxes 1:32:57.720 --> 1:32:59.479 because you're not gonna put You're not gonna stack the 1:32:59.479 --> 1:33:02.160 boxgainst Miami, so you have to be able to stop 1:33:02.160 --> 1:33:05.240 the run out of too high shell. That was what 1:33:05.640 --> 1:33:09.840 That's the difference between the Eagles defensive line. Like that's 1:33:09.880 --> 1:33:12.479 where like that comes in, right, is that their dominant 1:33:12.479 --> 1:33:15.080 defensive line has that ability to just go out there 1:33:15.320 --> 1:33:17.760 and stop you. But you also have to remember, like 1:33:17.800 --> 1:33:20.640 what we've been saying about their offensive line, they have 1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:23.120 some banged up pieces on the their missing three fists 1:33:23.120 --> 1:33:25.719 of their offensive line, So you need to take advantage 1:33:25.760 --> 1:33:27.840 of that. And that really needs to translate to the 1:33:27.920 --> 1:33:32.599 run game and stopping the run against the Patriots, they 1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:37.200 average over six yards per attempt against light boxes. You know, 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:39.880 forty three of those came on one run. But even 1:33:39.920 --> 1:33:42.320 if you take the moster touchdown run out of it, 1:33:42.320 --> 1:33:43.880 it's still over four yards to carry. 1:33:44.040 --> 1:33:46.439 Yeah, still too much. No you need This is a 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:49.040 big bounce back game for Jwan Bentley. Yeah, because that's him, 1:33:49.160 --> 1:33:51.960 that's him making contact before the guy can bounce it 1:33:51.960 --> 1:33:52.519 to the outside. 1:33:52.600 --> 1:33:56.160 Yeah. Absolutely, All right, let's get to Todd in North Carolina. 1:33:56.160 --> 1:33:57.599 Thanks for calling back, Todd. What's up. 1:33:59.360 --> 1:34:02.240 Yeah, they're focusing a lot on the D. But I 1:34:02.240 --> 1:34:04.280 think this game is going to be about our offense, 1:34:04.320 --> 1:34:06.280 and I really think that one of the keys to 1:34:06.320 --> 1:34:09.439 the game is just be consistent and don't turn it over. 1:34:10.040 --> 1:34:11.519 You know, I think that's what we need. We need, 1:34:11.600 --> 1:34:13.080 But I'm not gonna say that it's the perfect game. 1:34:13.080 --> 1:34:16.000 But just get some plays out there, get it moving, 1:34:16.040 --> 1:34:18.639 and you know, so we don't constantly have to face 1:34:18.720 --> 1:34:21.559 two US and eventually that'll just that quick game will 1:34:21.560 --> 1:34:22.519 wear our defense down. 1:34:23.000 --> 1:34:23.240 Yeah. 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:24.360 What do you guys think? 1:34:24.520 --> 1:34:27.200 Yeah, good call Todd. Thanks for calling in. Uh yeah, 1:34:27.240 --> 1:34:29.439 I wanted to talk about the offense too. It's not 1:34:29.560 --> 1:34:31.400 we're not all just a rapid defense, So just haven't 1:34:31.400 --> 1:34:35.880 gone to the offense yet. Offensively, I you know, I 1:34:35.960 --> 1:34:37.720 like Bill O'Brien, so this is not like I'm not 1:34:37.760 --> 1:34:40.439 trying to dump on Bill O'Brien. But Vic Fangio got 1:34:40.520 --> 1:34:43.719 him in week two. You just did. Now. It didn't 1:34:43.760 --> 1:34:47.760 help that they were playing Calvin Anderson and Vederi and 1:34:47.800 --> 1:34:49.040 Low as their two tackles right. 1:34:49.120 --> 1:34:52.599 Afferent and did Ye Stranger one who both played next. 1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:55.360 Yeah, but they were playing Calvin Anderson and Vaderian lower 1:34:55.439 --> 1:34:58.479 Turnstiles in that game. They were horrible. And then they 1:34:58.520 --> 1:35:02.160 also bench Pop Douglas after the fumble. So you're taking 1:35:02.479 --> 1:35:04.960 that's a big difference about where this team is at 1:35:05.000 --> 1:35:06.880 now versus where this team was at in week two. 1:35:07.360 --> 1:35:12.479 But Fangio's system is very hard. It's a really good 1:35:12.720 --> 1:35:15.880 sound system. Now, Miami statistically is not a good defense. 1:35:15.880 --> 1:35:18.880 They're twenty fourth in DVOA. They're down near the bottom 1:35:18.880 --> 1:35:20.479 of the league in points break. They've given up twenty 1:35:20.520 --> 1:35:22.400 seven points a game. You know, they haven't played well 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:26.439 on defense this year on the whole. And sticking with 1:35:26.479 --> 1:35:29.840 the injury theme, Javon Holland their best player on defense, 1:35:29.880 --> 1:35:31.680 is in kacussion protocol. He's not going to play. Like 1:35:31.720 --> 1:35:34.439 there's like a seventy five percent chance he's not playing 1:35:34.479 --> 1:35:34.840 in this game. 1:35:34.880 --> 1:35:37.120 They also have five corners that were limited yesterday. 1:35:37.200 --> 1:35:39.240 Yeah, and we'll see if Ramsey's back or not. 1:35:39.520 --> 1:35:44.120 So help me square this. Yeah, if people remember way 1:35:44.160 --> 1:35:46.040 back and I wrote about this way back on ninety 1:35:46.080 --> 1:35:48.200 eighty five the sports sub dot com if people want 1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:51.080 to go find it. Yeah, I was not a big 1:35:51.160 --> 1:35:54.000 Ramsey guy this offseason. Yeah, I just think his best 1:35:54.000 --> 1:35:55.800 football is behind him. I agree, it doesn't mean he's 1:35:55.840 --> 1:35:59.200 not serviceable. But every single time he went up against 1:35:59.240 --> 1:36:02.439 the top receiver line year, he got torched. Patriots don't 1:36:02.479 --> 1:36:06.439 exactly have a top receiver. But I'm sitting here, like, 1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:09.840 if he plays, I want them to test him. I 1:36:09.920 --> 1:36:11.599 kind of want them to test him to see where 1:36:11.640 --> 1:36:12.320 he's really at. 1:36:12.680 --> 1:36:14.479 What's better than thrown at Zavian Howard? 1:36:15.080 --> 1:36:18.080 Right, But like how do you test it? Like I 1:36:18.320 --> 1:36:20.360 don't know who the guy is to test him, right, 1:36:20.400 --> 1:36:21.120 So That's what I'm stuck on. 1:36:21.320 --> 1:36:23.120 So I think the question is is. 1:36:23.520 --> 1:36:25.639 Although Zavian Howard's hurt too, let's not forget that. 1:36:25.720 --> 1:36:29.200 If he does play, Ramsey if he does play, Yeah, 1:36:29.720 --> 1:36:33.040 I have I wonder what Fangio's plan is with him, 1:36:33.479 --> 1:36:36.799 because I think that there's a chance that he plays 1:36:36.800 --> 1:36:39.400 the star role and he's in the slot because he's 1:36:39.400 --> 1:36:41.559 always been a guy that's that's played a little bit 1:36:41.600 --> 1:36:44.559 inside and he's always had that skill set, and in 1:36:44.600 --> 1:36:48.240 that defense, the star role is maybe the most important 1:36:48.320 --> 1:36:50.680 role in the entire defense because the way that they 1:36:50.760 --> 1:36:53.280 rotate their safeties and the way that they play coverage, 1:36:53.400 --> 1:36:56.519 they you have to have a really good nickel like 1:36:56.600 --> 1:36:59.800 that's important for that defense. So I wonder if maybe 1:36:59.840 --> 1:37:02.400 that that's where they're going with Ramsey and that's why 1:37:02.439 --> 1:37:05.760 they acquired him. And to your point, Okay, maybe he's 1:37:05.760 --> 1:37:08.799 not the guy to carry routes on the outside anymore 1:37:08.840 --> 1:37:11.080 than he was early on in his career. So let's 1:37:11.080 --> 1:37:13.040 move him in kind of how they you know, some 1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:15.680 guys move to safety like later on in their career, right, 1:37:16.000 --> 1:37:17.880 but in this in term, it's we're moving him into 1:37:17.880 --> 1:37:20.320 the slot. So if they if Ramsey plays and he 1:37:20.360 --> 1:37:23.120 plays in the slot like I think he might, then 1:37:23.160 --> 1:37:25.200 he does become a big factor in this game, because 1:37:25.200 --> 1:37:27.160 that's where the Patriots want to throw the ball, right, 1:37:27.240 --> 1:37:30.880 So I think that becomes a factor. So with Fangio, 1:37:32.640 --> 1:37:37.120 everybody in the in the league is a little bit 1:37:37.120 --> 1:37:39.760 of Fangio. Now, they like Fangio is the hottest guy 1:37:39.760 --> 1:37:42.680 in the league right now. Defensively plays a ton of 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:46.320 split safety zone, a ton of two high split safety zone. 1:37:46.800 --> 1:37:49.639 The base coverage in his coverage is Cover six, which 1:37:49.640 --> 1:37:52.880 is quarter quarter half, So you have quarters to one side, right, 1:37:52.960 --> 1:37:55.439 a deep fourth deep fourth quarters to one side, and 1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:57.840 then you have Cover two to the backside. That that's 1:37:57.880 --> 1:38:01.799 how they play it. So you can beat that coverage 1:38:01.840 --> 1:38:05.080 down the field. But it's essentially designed to take away 1:38:05.080 --> 1:38:07.439 big plays, which is why everybody plays it now because 1:38:07.520 --> 1:38:09.840 of all the quarterbacks and passing games and things like that. 1:38:10.280 --> 1:38:13.719 So you can set up big plays down the field. 1:38:14.280 --> 1:38:16.800 But in order to hit shot plays down the field 1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:20.639 against Vangio, you need time. You need the quarterback has 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:22.920 to have time in the pocket because what you're gonna 1:38:22.920 --> 1:38:25.160 do is you're gonna clear out right, You're gonna clear 1:38:25.200 --> 1:38:27.719 out the quarters side and then you're gonna send routes 1:38:27.720 --> 1:38:30.639 from the backside into the quarter's side. But in order 1:38:30.720 --> 1:38:32.680 to do that, you need the quarterback to have some 1:38:32.760 --> 1:38:35.080 time in the pocket. To let that develop. So that's 1:38:35.080 --> 1:38:38.360 where the Patriots ran into problems in the first match 1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:40.720 of is every time they try to dial up a 1:38:40.760 --> 1:38:42.840 coverage beater to go down the field a little bit, 1:38:43.280 --> 1:38:45.360 they couldn't block it. So then they had to go 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:47.679 to the quick game. When we went to the quick game, 1:38:48.040 --> 1:38:51.280 they didn't really average. You know, it was all five 1:38:51.360 --> 1:38:53.479 yard throws, like he was throwing the ball four or 1:38:53.479 --> 1:38:56.040 five yards at pop. And that's a difficult way to 1:38:56.080 --> 1:38:58.680 live is to go down the field like that consistently. 1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:03.439 So in general, I think when you play against Fangio, 1:39:04.200 --> 1:39:06.360 you have two choices. Either you try to hit the 1:39:06.360 --> 1:39:08.200 shot plays down the field that are going to take 1:39:08.240 --> 1:39:11.559 longer to develop, or they can continue to do what 1:39:11.600 --> 1:39:14.200 they kept that what they've been doing, and try to 1:39:14.200 --> 1:39:16.679 open up the underneath part of the zone and try 1:39:16.680 --> 1:39:19.559 to throw the ball that way. If Miami has health 1:39:19.640 --> 1:39:22.120 on their side at the cornerback positions, I do also 1:39:22.120 --> 1:39:24.000 think that they're gonna play some man to man in 1:39:24.080 --> 1:39:26.320 this game. You know, if they have Howard, if they 1:39:26.320 --> 1:39:28.719 have Ramsey, you know, I think that they will try 1:39:29.160 --> 1:39:30.840 to play some man, which they did in week two 1:39:30.920 --> 1:39:34.200 as well. So it's a it's a tough matchup because 1:39:34.200 --> 1:39:37.080 I think the biggest thing with Fangio, like I just mentioned, 1:39:37.160 --> 1:39:40.800 he wants you to go death by a thousand paper cuts, 1:39:40.840 --> 1:39:42.320 like he wants you to have to beat him by 1:39:42.320 --> 1:39:45.040 going ten to fifteen play drives. The other thing that 1:39:45.080 --> 1:39:50.880 he makes difficult is it's really hard to decipher the 1:39:50.920 --> 1:39:54.479 coverage pre snap. They're a really good disguised team. They 1:39:54.520 --> 1:39:57.960 play six cover six, but they can get to different 1:39:58.000 --> 1:40:02.080 things out of cover six really easily with post snap rotation. 1:40:02.240 --> 1:40:04.800 So you can play three, you can play man to man, 1:40:05.040 --> 1:40:07.559 and it all looks the same to the quarterback. So 1:40:08.120 --> 1:40:11.000 that's a difficult part about it. That's why everybody's obsessed 1:40:11.040 --> 1:40:13.559 with the system is because it takes away big plays 1:40:13.960 --> 1:40:16.360 and a mix the quarterback hold the football and read 1:40:16.360 --> 1:40:19.080 things out post nap. So if you're the Patriots, I 1:40:19.360 --> 1:40:21.920 think that this is a game where you do want 1:40:21.960 --> 1:40:24.560 to try to spread them out again and try to 1:40:24.600 --> 1:40:26.880 get the ball out of mac Jones's hands, and then 1:40:26.920 --> 1:40:29.599 the chess match comes into play of well, Fangio probably 1:40:29.640 --> 1:40:31.320 knows you're gonna try to do that, so how do 1:40:31.360 --> 1:40:33.519 you you know, how do you one up him in 1:40:33.240 --> 1:40:35.920 that phase of the game. The other thing with the 1:40:36.000 --> 1:40:39.439 run game. They changed up how they stopped the run 1:40:39.439 --> 1:40:42.080 a little bit. In week two. They started slanting the 1:40:42.160 --> 1:40:44.439 defensive line right, so you come in at like a 1:40:44.479 --> 1:40:46.879 forty five degree angle and you slant into the gaps. 1:40:47.400 --> 1:40:50.280 Typically they are one gap and a half defense, so 1:40:50.320 --> 1:40:53.120 they're gonna play the primary gap and they're gonna flow 1:40:53.120 --> 1:40:56.679 to the secondary gap. They went up the field against 1:40:56.720 --> 1:40:59.599 the Patriots last time. I think that took the Patriots 1:40:59.600 --> 1:41:03.599 by a little bit by surprise. But I'm curious to see, 1:41:03.640 --> 1:41:06.280 you know, how they go about building off of what 1:41:06.320 --> 1:41:08.559 they did last week. But then at the same time, 1:41:09.160 --> 1:41:11.200 you know, Fangio is going to watch that film and 1:41:11.240 --> 1:41:13.760 if you're predictable, he's gonna have answers for what you 1:41:13.760 --> 1:41:17.360 did against Buffalo. Right, So let's get into the calls. 1:41:17.479 --> 1:41:22.600 Uh Mark is in Connecticut? What's up? Mark going on? 1:41:23.120 --> 1:41:26.040 And Alex, Hey, how you doing that? 1:41:26.160 --> 1:41:28.479 Would do with Evan as always, but our guy Pop 1:41:28.560 --> 1:41:31.880 Douglas is popping as he should. But what I wanted 1:41:31.880 --> 1:41:35.320 to ask you guys is Devont Parker, Juju Smith, Schuster. 1:41:35.760 --> 1:41:39.519 They were They're irrelevant. Now can we trade them? Can 1:41:39.600 --> 1:41:43.080 we cut them without taking a big loss? Because I 1:41:43.120 --> 1:41:45.880 want to see I want to see more, uh you know, 1:41:46.080 --> 1:41:50.520 more of the young guys Taekwon, Thwarton, Kijon Boute, Bob Douglas. 1:41:50.760 --> 1:41:53.000 You know, we need to get those guys, Jalen Riger, 1:41:53.000 --> 1:41:55.479 We need to get those guys more involved and time 1:41:55.520 --> 1:41:57.320 to get rid of these two guys that are bumped. 1:41:57.439 --> 1:41:58.679 They just they don't do anything. 1:41:58.800 --> 1:41:59.000 It was. 1:41:59.200 --> 1:42:01.479 It was a bad sign. I think will Bill admit 1:42:01.600 --> 1:42:02.800 to being a bad time. 1:42:03.439 --> 1:42:06.600 Yeah, it's a good call, and uh, we're with you. 1:42:07.080 --> 1:42:10.439 We're with you, And I will say, you know, DeVante 1:42:10.439 --> 1:42:13.160 Parker has his flaws, like we know that, and I 1:42:13.240 --> 1:42:15.759 we we we did that last week with the Raiders, 1:42:15.760 --> 1:42:18.080 Like the drop was horrible. I thought someone his route 1:42:18.120 --> 1:42:21.280 running and just effort in that game was horrible. And 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:24.080 the coaches agreed he only played seventeen or ran seventeen routes. 1:42:24.080 --> 1:42:27.280 I forget the exact snap. Yeah, he didn't play as much. Right, 1:42:27.520 --> 1:42:29.720 so they saw it. They they recognize it and they 1:42:29.760 --> 1:42:32.639 saw it. But I do think that with his body type, 1:42:32.920 --> 1:42:34.760 like you kind of said, you know earlier about the 1:42:34.760 --> 1:42:37.720 red zone and like goal line packages and things like that. 1:42:38.160 --> 1:42:40.800 I also think that on like inbreakers like slants, like 1:42:41.080 --> 1:42:43.519 having a bigger frame, like, yeah, he can. He can 1:42:43.760 --> 1:42:46.759 help in those regards, and you don't necessarily have another 1:42:46.840 --> 1:42:50.639 big bodied outside body type like that next a true 1:42:50.680 --> 1:42:54.679 traditional extent unless're gonna start puting. Yeah, so I think 1:42:54.680 --> 1:42:57.000 that he has a role. Is it should it be 1:42:57.080 --> 1:42:59.840 reduced one hundred and ten percent? But I think Parker 1:42:59.840 --> 1:43:02.880 has as a role. Yeah, I don't see Juju's role. 1:43:03.479 --> 1:43:05.920 He got he got Remember how we were talking all 1:43:05.960 --> 1:43:08.920 summer rebellus to Mario Douglas going to catch tack on Thornton. Yeah, 1:43:08.960 --> 1:43:11.760 not only did you that he got Juju, he got 1:43:11.840 --> 1:43:14.800 Wally Pipped a little bit, he got Wally. Bill brought 1:43:14.880 --> 1:43:16.400 up Wally Pip yesterday. 1:43:16.000 --> 1:43:20.960 Who did h Yeah that works too, I guess. 1:43:21.120 --> 1:43:23.520 Yeah, Bill loves him to Wally Pipe. 1:43:23.800 --> 1:43:25.960 He knew what he was. He That was one of 1:43:25.960 --> 1:43:29.240 his better jokes. Like sometimes like people last Bill's jokes 1:43:29.240 --> 1:43:31.920 because because it's Bill. But that was a good one. 1:43:32.000 --> 1:43:35.200 Like he was Wes, he was Wes welkering it, I 1:43:35.280 --> 1:43:35.880 know what he know? 1:43:36.120 --> 1:43:38.759 Did he's joking when he said it to Welker though. 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:39.800 No, I think he meant that. 1:43:39.960 --> 1:43:42.360 No, he was no way to compete Welker, and he 1:43:42.600 --> 1:43:48.120 never saw him again. I yeah, I think with juju, like, 1:43:48.920 --> 1:43:51.320 so you can't. I got to pull up the exact 1:43:51.320 --> 1:43:54.519 details contract, going to get past. Cap is going to 1:43:54.560 --> 1:43:57.599 get mad at me, rightfully, rightfully, he can't cut them. 1:43:57.800 --> 1:44:02.000 People got to get this information right. So it is, 1:44:02.120 --> 1:44:03.920 I know. But to make the rest of my take, yeah, 1:44:03.960 --> 1:44:06.479 so there's I mean, it's you lose a leg. It's 1:44:06.560 --> 1:44:08.840 not even like there's minimal cap savings. You lose eleven 1:44:08.840 --> 1:44:09.960 million dollars in cap space. 1:44:09.760 --> 1:44:12.280 If you come this year. Okay, definitely can't cut him 1:44:12.280 --> 1:44:12.639 this year. 1:44:14.320 --> 1:44:19.280 Starting next year, if you trade, you can't cut him. No, 1:44:20.080 --> 1:44:23.760 if you trade him, the money gets split about fifty 1:44:23.760 --> 1:44:25.920 to fifty. It's five million ish in dead cap. Five 1:44:25.960 --> 1:44:27.440 million is in savings. 1:44:27.040 --> 1:44:29.320 Which for a team that has one hundred million dollars 1:44:29.360 --> 1:44:31.360 in cap space next offseason, you can eat it. 1:44:31.439 --> 1:44:31.559 Well. 1:44:31.600 --> 1:44:35.000 The other thing I would say is like, so in 1:44:35.040 --> 1:44:38.519 the past, like you couldn't make that trade. Yeah, if 1:44:38.520 --> 1:44:40.760 they could trade. John new Smith said yes, So that 1:44:40.880 --> 1:44:42.880 that's where I'm at. Like I used to I used 1:44:42.880 --> 1:44:45.160 to be in this in this camp, and everything you 1:44:45.200 --> 1:44:48.639 said about Parker this year is correct. I think this offseason, 1:44:48.680 --> 1:44:50.040 when you may have a chance to bring in another 1:44:50.040 --> 1:44:52.479 big body wide receiver. This changes in the past. I 1:44:52.479 --> 1:44:55.240 would say, you're stuck with these guys. If they can 1:44:55.280 --> 1:44:58.920 trade John new Smith for a seventh round pick, maybe 1:44:58.960 --> 1:45:02.200 there's if they look it helps them too, that John 1:45:02.240 --> 1:45:06.000 who's been good in Atlanta this year, Maybe Carl falcons again. 1:45:06.080 --> 1:45:08.479 Yeah, or maybe just you know, point to and say, hey, 1:45:08.720 --> 1:45:10.720 it wasn't a scheme fit for us here, right, Like 1:45:10.760 --> 1:45:12.880 you know with Johnny Smith, he goes back to Arthur 1:45:12.920 --> 1:45:15.599 Smith and Atlanta and he's having a decent year. So 1:45:15.760 --> 1:45:18.040 maybe Juju goes back to Kansas City. 1:45:18.120 --> 1:45:20.280 So that's that That would be my first call. Yeah, 1:45:20.400 --> 1:45:23.160 it would be the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, but like 1:45:23.320 --> 1:45:26.000 that you have you can't cut them. You can't Parker 1:45:26.120 --> 1:45:27.800 or Juju, so you can't cut them. 1:45:27.880 --> 1:45:30.360 Juju essentially signed a two year deal, right Like it's 1:45:30.360 --> 1:45:35.479 two years essentially fully guaranteed, and the third year I 1:45:35.479 --> 1:45:36.120 think there. 1:45:36.200 --> 1:45:37.080 Is two point six. 1:45:37.160 --> 1:45:38.880 Yeah, there's a way to wiggle out of the third 1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:39.840 year of the contract. 1:45:39.880 --> 1:45:41.559 Mostly there's still some tad money. 1:45:41.640 --> 1:45:44.080 So that way, when you look at that, like if 1:45:44.080 --> 1:45:46.840 a team like Kansas City acquires him, for example, next 1:45:46.840 --> 1:45:49.639 off season in a trade takes him off the Patriots hands. 1:45:50.520 --> 1:45:52.600 They could get one good year out of Juju like 1:45:52.640 --> 1:45:54.439 they did in the Super Bowl year last year, and 1:45:54.439 --> 1:45:56.760 then they could probably walk away from him too after 1:45:56.800 --> 1:45:59.800 twenty twenty four. So that could be appealing and not 1:46:00.800 --> 1:46:03.080 for a team that knows that he's had success there already. 1:46:03.360 --> 1:46:05.960 Now that's a very unique situation, just like the Falcons 1:46:05.960 --> 1:46:08.160 were a very unique situation with John Ay because John 1:46:08.160 --> 1:46:10.240 Who's best year in the NFL is with Arthur Smith 1:46:10.280 --> 1:46:13.920 as his offensive coordinator in Tennessee. So it's a similar thing. 1:46:14.920 --> 1:46:18.800 I The bigger question that I have, and I get why, 1:46:18.920 --> 1:46:21.839 you know, Mark brings up the future with those two players. 1:46:23.000 --> 1:46:25.080 The bigger question that I have is the here and now, 1:46:25.520 --> 1:46:29.800 Like are the Patriots going to do right by the 1:46:29.920 --> 1:46:34.280 twenty twenty three team and not force Juju back into 1:46:34.280 --> 1:46:39.599 the lineup now that he's healthy, Because I it wouldn't 1:46:39.640 --> 1:46:42.320 shock me either way. It wouldn't shock me if you know, 1:46:42.640 --> 1:46:45.000 they get out in Miami and like there, you know, 1:46:45.040 --> 1:46:47.000 he runs off the sideline and he's one of the 1:46:47.360 --> 1:46:49.760 right back in the mix. It also wouldn't shock me 1:46:49.800 --> 1:46:51.960 if if they recognize that, hey, we got to roll 1:46:52.000 --> 1:46:54.200 with you know what worked against Buffalo, and this is 1:46:54.200 --> 1:46:58.360 what we're sticking with. But like I said earlier, it's 1:46:58.479 --> 1:47:01.360 it's not easy to walk away from that investment, like 1:47:01.400 --> 1:47:03.280 you gave this guy fifteen. 1:47:03.360 --> 1:47:06.200 But that's what the that's always been a core tenant 1:47:06.360 --> 1:47:08.000 of Belichick, or for a long time was a core 1:47:08.040 --> 1:47:11.160 tenant of Belichick, was it doesn't matter if you're the 1:47:11.160 --> 1:47:12.800 first round pick, the seventh round pick, doesn't matter, if 1:47:12.800 --> 1:47:14.519 you're on a ten million dollar contract, doesn't matter if 1:47:14.520 --> 1:47:16.839 you're on an eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars contract. Yeah, 1:47:16.920 --> 1:47:19.439 we're gonna play the players. We're gonna play the best players, 1:47:19.479 --> 1:47:23.439 and it's hard to argue right now that Juju from 1:47:23.439 --> 1:47:26.400 the Shooter is one of the best players. I also think, 1:47:26.560 --> 1:47:28.400 just like I know, he hasn't been on the injury report, 1:47:28.439 --> 1:47:31.080 but his knee doesn't look right. Yeah, maybe some time 1:47:31.120 --> 1:47:31.800 off helps him. 1:47:32.160 --> 1:47:38.439 I was I was seriously wondering, especially because Jalen Rager 1:47:38.439 --> 1:47:40.760 has now come on a little bit. Kishon Booty has 1:47:40.800 --> 1:47:44.200 come on a little bit. You know, excuse me, Ragers 1:47:44.240 --> 1:47:46.960 come on and you have Kishon Booty. Booty's doing that thing, 1:47:47.520 --> 1:47:51.519 and you have Kishon Boody. You know, I actually thought 1:47:51.520 --> 1:47:54.200 when he got the concussion that ir was was maybe 1:47:54.200 --> 1:47:56.880 a consideration. I thought so too, like just a it's 1:47:56.920 --> 1:47:59.200 more just a reset, right, like of you know, let's 1:47:59.240 --> 1:48:02.320 get you ten percent, maybe get your knee into a 1:48:02.360 --> 1:48:05.759 better spot, and then let's revisit where we are health wise, 1:48:05.760 --> 1:48:07.880 where we are in terms of contention and all that 1:48:07.960 --> 1:48:11.599 kind of stuff four years or four weeks away, and 1:48:11.640 --> 1:48:13.559 they didn't do that. You know, he's he's back out 1:48:13.560 --> 1:48:15.960 at practice, he wasn't on the injury report yesterday. He's 1:48:16.000 --> 1:48:18.559 ready to go, he's healthy, he can play in the 1:48:18.600 --> 1:48:21.519 game on Sunday. I'm really fascinated to see how they 1:48:21.560 --> 1:48:24.320 approach that. And they have seven wide receivers I think 1:48:24.400 --> 1:48:27.680 now on the fifty three with Rager, and then they 1:48:27.680 --> 1:48:30.679 have Time Montgomery too, you know, so it's like seven 1:48:30.720 --> 1:48:31.040 and a half. 1:48:31.160 --> 1:48:33.519 They won't play Tom Montgomery. They've made that blatantly clear. 1:48:34.120 --> 1:48:35.800 So it's a it's gonna be interesting to see where 1:48:35.840 --> 1:48:37.960 they go from here at that position in terms of 1:48:37.960 --> 1:48:39.760 snaps and things like that. Do I think that either 1:48:39.800 --> 1:48:42.479 one of those guys can be moved by the deadline. No, 1:48:42.720 --> 1:48:47.080 I don't think anybody's taken. Maybe Parker like, I think 1:48:47.120 --> 1:48:52.600 Parker's had enough okay film that you could talk a 1:48:52.680 --> 1:48:56.759 team into that needs. You know, an outside receiver. Juju 1:48:56.800 --> 1:48:59.519 is not tradable at the moment, you know, just not tradable. 1:48:59.520 --> 1:49:01.200 He's been one of the worst receivers in the league. 1:49:02.320 --> 1:49:05.559 Anything else, You got some key matchups for us? Got 1:49:05.560 --> 1:49:09.639 some key Yeah, he talked. We touched on them, most. 1:49:09.479 --> 1:49:11.400 Of we I think we touched on most of them. 1:49:11.400 --> 1:49:13.720 I mean the big thing for me is tackling bar 1:49:13.800 --> 1:49:18.320 More versus the backup interior offensive line. Ye, all right, yeah, 1:49:18.320 --> 1:49:22.280 I got one more. You'll love this. The Patriots gave 1:49:22.320 --> 1:49:27.000 the Dolphins a little something special in that Week two game, 1:49:27.080 --> 1:49:30.600 right with the field goal block. It wouldn't surprise me 1:49:32.320 --> 1:49:34.080 if the Dolphins come back with a little something for 1:49:34.120 --> 1:49:38.120 the Patriots. If Danny Crossman, and maybe it's not on 1:49:38.160 --> 1:49:41.240 the field goal, maybe it's something, but they pants Danny 1:49:41.240 --> 1:49:43.080 Crossman's unite, they pants them. 1:49:43.240 --> 1:49:45.400 Yeah, does he pants them back? 1:49:45.520 --> 1:49:47.240 Right? Does he try? Maybe it's on a punt, maybe 1:49:47.240 --> 1:49:49.200 it's on a gick return, but the blood whatever. I 1:49:49.200 --> 1:49:52.920 would just be very vigilant as Patriots special teams this week. 1:49:53.080 --> 1:49:55.920 You gotta expect the unexpected because and then I guess 1:49:55.920 --> 1:49:58.840 building off of that, they're obviously going to be ready 1:49:58.880 --> 1:50:00.840 for the Patriots. They know that Jake Bailey is the 1:50:00.920 --> 1:50:04.559 tell right did the patriotsack? Are they going to build 1:50:04.600 --> 1:50:07.640 off of that Schooler play? So last week on the 1:50:07.640 --> 1:50:09.559 missfield goal, I don't know how much it impacted it, 1:50:09.560 --> 1:50:10.160 if at all, but. 1:50:10.479 --> 1:50:13.560 Miles Bryant was running, Yeah, Miles Bryant was running. 1:50:13.280 --> 1:50:14.880 Like like Schooler was on that play. 1:50:14.960 --> 1:50:19.639 So well, I think it does because we have watched 1:50:19.640 --> 1:50:22.240 two kickers, because didn't they get the kicker again on 1:50:22.280 --> 1:50:24.080 it or was it a different game? 1:50:24.240 --> 1:50:26.320 No, it was that it was that game they got 1:50:26.400 --> 1:50:29.080 him again because he didn't block it. But like he 1:50:29.320 --> 1:50:33.240 pushed it right, Sanders, he's staring down Schoolers, he's running again. 1:50:33.439 --> 1:50:35.600 He pushed it left right. Explorer was coming from the 1:50:35.640 --> 1:50:37.519 right and he pushed it left. So I think it's 1:50:37.560 --> 1:50:39.800 a factor. I think it's a factor whether he boxed 1:50:39.800 --> 1:50:42.080 it or not. I do you know, kickers are so 1:50:42.640 --> 1:50:45.439 you know better than me. Kickers are so finicky, right like, 1:50:45.479 --> 1:50:48.559 and when guys are doing weird stuff like it just 1:50:48.640 --> 1:50:51.200 kind of comes out of nowhere. Last well, you know, 1:50:51.320 --> 1:50:55.000 I'm excited to see assuming he's healthy, Jonathan Jones the stopper, 1:50:55.080 --> 1:50:58.040 the Tyree kill stopper, assuming well the Tyre Kills not well, 1:50:58.080 --> 1:51:01.599 maybe the Bultpip playing. But last one here for key 1:51:01.640 --> 1:51:03.439 matches because you mentioned Barmore, which I think is a 1:51:03.479 --> 1:51:06.760 huge one. Again it's lester cotton, like Barmore should take 1:51:06.840 --> 1:51:09.880 lesser cotton behind the woodshed and eat him for lunch, 1:51:09.960 --> 1:51:12.280 right like that that should be what that is the 1:51:12.360 --> 1:51:16.880 last one here City Sow versus Christian Wilkins that this 1:51:16.960 --> 1:51:20.439 is so last time around, hopefully with the last time 1:51:20.439 --> 1:51:22.280 in Week two. It was the edge pressure because of 1:51:22.320 --> 1:51:25.280 the tackle situation, assuming the Patriots have Trent Brown and 1:51:25.320 --> 1:51:27.800 Mike on Winu out at tackle, I'm a little less 1:51:27.840 --> 1:51:31.439 concerned about the tackle, you know, the edge pressure from 1:51:31.479 --> 1:51:34.200 Bradley Chubb, and I think Jalen Phillips is gonna be 1:51:34.240 --> 1:51:37.280 one of the few Dolphins you know, marquee players it's 1:51:37.280 --> 1:51:40.000 actually gonna play in this game are Bradley Chubb and 1:51:40.040 --> 1:51:43.280 Jalen Phillips. But Wilkins Lisa Rine up line up over 1:51:43.320 --> 1:51:46.120 the right side like he's he likes to play either 1:51:46.160 --> 1:51:48.679 the one or the three on over the right guard, 1:51:48.760 --> 1:51:51.160 like I think it's seventy five percent of his snaps 1:51:51.200 --> 1:51:54.439 or something like that, or are to the defense's left, 1:51:54.479 --> 1:51:57.160 the offense is right. So he's one of those guys 1:51:57.160 --> 1:52:00.919 that has a spot that he typically favors, and that's 1:52:00.960 --> 1:52:05.640 gonna be City So. And I think City So PFF, 1:52:05.880 --> 1:52:09.559 like we all have our you know, ups and downs. 1:52:09.560 --> 1:52:12.120 I think with PFF grades and things like that, I 1:52:12.120 --> 1:52:14.800 thought they were overly generous to City So in their 1:52:14.840 --> 1:52:16.000 grading last week. 1:52:16.960 --> 1:52:18.280 He was fine. 1:52:19.080 --> 1:52:21.280 He was fine, But like saying he was one of 1:52:21.360 --> 1:52:25.960 the best offensive lineman in the NFL. 1:52:25.640 --> 1:52:28.519 Highest grade any rookie lineman has gotten in a game 1:52:28.560 --> 1:52:32.000 this season, something like that, there was something that attached 1:52:32.080 --> 1:52:32.920 that's bogus. 1:52:33.040 --> 1:52:34.520 Let's face it, that's bogus. 1:52:34.640 --> 1:52:36.639 So save those for next year. 1:52:36.760 --> 1:52:40.200 Yeah, So I think that that's still a mismatch for 1:52:40.400 --> 1:52:42.640 the Patriots in terms of that right guard spot. Now, 1:52:42.720 --> 1:52:45.800 David Andrews and I know a Belichick with Mac Jones 1:52:45.840 --> 1:52:48.000 both talked about this a little bit yesterday. He definitely 1:52:48.080 --> 1:52:50.200 deserves a ton of credit for the fact that he's 1:52:50.240 --> 1:52:50.759 been helping. 1:52:51.160 --> 1:52:53.360 Both deserves a ton of credit for a lot of things. 1:52:53.360 --> 1:52:56.479 Frankly, both guards like both because, like, let's face it, 1:52:56.560 --> 1:52:59.280 Cole Strange is a he still hasn't played a ton 1:52:59.280 --> 1:53:01.439 of football because he's and hurt and everything like that, 1:53:01.920 --> 1:53:03.800 but be you know, he still needs some help too. 1:53:04.320 --> 1:53:06.360 I think that, you know, I would love and this 1:53:06.400 --> 1:53:09.320 is never gonna happen, but I would love to hear 1:53:09.920 --> 1:53:12.920 like not even you know Belichick mentioned yesterday, it's not 1:53:13.200 --> 1:53:16.920 just like helping set the protections and help post snap, 1:53:17.040 --> 1:53:19.360 like picking up stunts, and it's also like the little 1:53:19.439 --> 1:53:24.120 reminders pre snap right, Like it's like, hey, like don't 1:53:24.120 --> 1:53:27.200 forget about this, right, or don't be fooled by that, 1:53:27.520 --> 1:53:30.519 or you know when you your footwork, like the last 1:53:30.560 --> 1:53:32.200 one was a little like this, like we need it 1:53:32.200 --> 1:53:33.760 more a little like that, you know what I mean? 1:53:33.800 --> 1:53:36.280 And like these little things that he's just tips and 1:53:36.439 --> 1:53:38.840 reminders and things like that that he's giving those guys. 1:53:39.120 --> 1:53:42.559 I am sure, David Andrews, if you could like get 1:53:42.560 --> 1:53:47.160 an audio of he probably has like a freaking essay 1:53:47.280 --> 1:53:49.960 worth of words in a game, right of just little 1:53:50.000 --> 1:53:52.880 tips and reminders and little you know, watch for this 1:53:52.960 --> 1:53:55.519 is watch for that. And I think that that's going 1:53:55.520 --> 1:53:59.360 on left and right for both guards honestly on a 1:53:59.360 --> 1:54:03.040 game to game all right, we're gonna wrap. We got 1:54:03.120 --> 1:54:06.320 unfiltered starting out at noon, so just hang around here 1:54:06.360 --> 1:54:08.760 for a couple of minutes. Oh, I think we got 1:54:08.960 --> 1:54:11.400 we got boss Man back. I think Bossman's back from 1:54:11.880 --> 1:54:14.720 jury duty, so that's good. And Deuce and Paul and 1:54:14.920 --> 1:54:16.800 are ready to go, and they're chopping at the bit 1:54:16.880 --> 1:54:19.479 to get in here. So that's good. And we'll see 1:54:19.520 --> 1:54:22.080 you guys. This is probably gonna be our time, probably, 1:54:22.160 --> 1:54:25.040 so ten am is probably gonna be our time moving forward. 1:54:25.479 --> 1:54:27.240 So we'll see you guys next week. Thanks for listening, but. 1:54:29.080 --> 1:54:32.920 Thank you for downloading this podcast. 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