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Speaker 4: did need my dirband this two weeks ago, and he

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Speaker 4: did tell me that my return is eminent. So I

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Speaker 4: will be returning for a second appearance on Get My Go.

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Speaker 4: And I need to wear my shirt that Mike was

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Speaker 4: so graciously nice, generous to give me.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, So I'll be back on there. But check

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Speaker 3: Cheap plugs to be the best plugs to.

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Speaker 2: Have anything cheap is all right with me. So what's

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Speaker 3: You don't know. It's been a it's been a crazy week.

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Speaker 3: You know. I can save it for later if we

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Speaker 3: have time. But you know, I had a insane incident

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Speaker 3: happened at the house. I told you all about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was crazy. It was quick, but crazy, as is

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Speaker 2: I heard you're quick and crazy.

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Speaker 3: Listen, jeez. Well, in many ways, we're gonna be getting

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Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, so a little backstory.

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Speaker 4: Last week we had the great Vince Russo one, which

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Speaker 4: is always a pleasure because he's wonderful and there seems

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Speaker 4: gonna hear his side of the story, because there's two

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Speaker 4: sides to every story, and the truth.

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Speaker 2: Vince says he always speaks the truth. So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll listen to him, but we'll see. We'll

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Speaker 3: I suppose, oh absolutely. I mean I can only say

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Speaker 3: Sap joining eyes up here.

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Speaker 2: How are you today?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing good, doing good, Sean.

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Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for you to interview me.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I maybe like.

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Speaker 2: Twenty years ago and I'm saying to myself, this guy's

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Speaker 5: What if I was so hopeful that we could at

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Speaker 5: Squared Circle Expo, but you.

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Speaker 3: Had a line. You were busy.

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Speaker 2: I was a little busy. That's a good thing, though, right.

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Speaker 3: It is a good thing.

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Speaker 5: So that's the thing about conventions, like, I'm always really

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Speaker 2: I felt so bad because I so wanted to sit

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Speaker 4: But that was like, you know, we had the line,

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Speaker 3: It's all right.

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Speaker 5: Novia didn't have a line all weekend, so I interviewed him.

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Speaker 4: One of my dearest friends. But he's so over and

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to tell him what you said.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we discovered that we live like forty five minutes

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Speaker 5: I'm in Lexington, he's in Louisville.

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Speaker 3: I was. I was like, oh, hell, I got to

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Speaker 2: You can hang out with him all the time, now.

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Speaker 5: You'll yeah, I'll do that before we.

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Speaker 4: Get into the subject at hand, because you know why

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Speaker 2: Sure, hell did you? And I'm saying all your wrestling stuff,

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Speaker 4: How did you become a journalist in this wacky world

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Speaker 3: The wonderful Bill Apter is how I became.

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Speaker 5: I was covering and went to college, did that for

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Speaker 5: That's who I wanted to work with. So uh, that's

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Speaker 4: He is one of the greatest men that has ever

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Speaker 4: totally agree with that. Something I didn't know is your

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I trained in MMA at first, and then that

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Speaker 3: Wrestling school and all that.

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Speaker 5: Never really had an intention to fight, train, grapple.

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Speaker 5: But I felt like, well, if I'm writing about this,

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Speaker 4: It's what a concept it is because nine out of

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Speaker 5: But can just I appreciate that, And I mean I've

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Speaker 5: that with me traveling, because the funniest thing was one

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Speaker 4: I guess well, you know, sometimes you have to adapt

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Speaker 5: So I did some very very low level stuff here. Well,

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Speaker 5: Die yeah, which, funny enough, the wrestling training was much

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Speaker 5: more physically demanding than MMA training, and weight classes have

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Speaker 2: Writing about it. Did you get the bug?

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Speaker 3: I was so happy about that.

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Speaker 5: She's like, no, we're gonna sign this and we're going

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Speaker 3: Stuff like I was.

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Speaker 5: So I was like, okay, I'll do that. And I've

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Speaker 5: This spot wasn't fun. That was in the back of

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Speaker 2: You didn't like the keen spot.

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Speaker 5: Oh So I had sent her to Canes to bring

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Speaker 3: There you go next.

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Speaker 2: Weekend at the show.

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Speaker 4: I'm very impressed with all this, and and the best

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Speaker 4: part about it is you're raising money for charity.

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Speaker 2: So I absolutely love that's all.

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Speaker 5: I'll never I'll never wrestle, do commentary, or perform, or

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Speaker 5: that doesn't go to like something like NAMI or the

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Speaker 5: So I'd like to help people, or at least help somebody,

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful. I love that about you. Wonderful.

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Speaker 3: See, let me just jump into that. See, I don't

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Speaker 5: And you know, I've long liked the stuff that you

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Speaker 3: Supported anything that I've done, So I've always given you

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Speaker 5: I knew there'd be criticism because wrestling is so polarizing

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Speaker 5: anything like that. So they can dislike me all they want,

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Speaker 5: But there are some people like Connor Casey Ricaccino. I

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Speaker 4: I think it's you know, in thirty years that I've

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Speaker 2: Everything I did was wrong Me. No, I don't even

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Speaker 4: But it's refreshing because I've always said, like you can

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Speaker 2: Applaud you for that.

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that that impressed me so much because there there

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Speaker 2: So this is refreshing to hear switching gears. Uh. And

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Speaker 5: I'll tell it here and nowhere else because I don't

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Speaker 2: Own chain the breaking news.

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Speaker 3: There you go, but I don't want to interrupt.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you know I had Vince on and and

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Speaker 4: People are drawn to him and people like to argue

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Speaker 4: it back and forth. I know what he said about you,

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Speaker 4: and it pretty.

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Speaker 2: Much stems to you texting.

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Speaker 4: Him out of the blue at eleven party at night,

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Speaker 3: That that isn't true at all.

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Speaker 2: That's what he told us. No does the start and

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't want to do any business with us.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to do any business together Sean. I

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Speaker 5: you know. No ILL will towards him. But we worked

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Speaker 5: Vince leaves Wrestling Ink and I'm like, huh, I wonder why.

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00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 5: Well then I had the follow up call with Fightful

443
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 5: and they go, yeah, we're putting you on a show

444
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 5: with Vince, and.

445
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: I was like, ah, set of a fitch.

446
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 5: I thought that I was breaking free, but you know what,

447
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what different situation.

448
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 3: I'm calling the shots here. We can work with this,

449
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 3: do this.

450
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 5: And it became abundantly clear, like within three or four weeks,

451
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 5: like this guy despite being paid a salary to be there,

452
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 5: because we were trying to launch the site and you know,

453
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 5: get eyes on it.

454
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 3: And Vince is a name that.

455
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 5: At least, whether good, bad, or indifferent, at that time

456
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen, people were like, Oh, okay, let's see

457
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 5: what's going on. But within like three or four weeks

458
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 5: it became a running joke how unmotivated he was at Fightful,

459
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 5: and he gave me like one of the laziest written

460
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 5: reviews of all, Like he was paid to write a

461
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 5: written review of Raw every week and it was just

462
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 5: one of the laziest things. And I was like, I

463
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 5: went to my business partner and I was like, listen,

464
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 5: he's got to go, like, we can't have this, Like

465
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 5: he's actively disrespecting and making rude comments about our audience.

466
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 5: And when I called him about it, his solution was

467
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 5: for he and I to manufacture arguments on screen, like

468
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 5: pretend we were mad like work the audience, and he

469
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 5: would say things like these people think it's real. They

470
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 5: think wrestling is real, and I'm like, listen, man, nobody

471
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 5: watching our show thinks it's real. They're watching it for

472
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 5: backstage analysis and information and a breakdown. These are adults

473
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 5: that are watching our shows. They're not of some belief

474
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 5: it's not real. And he said a lot of things

475
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 5: that were very disrespectful to our audience, and I was like, okay,

476
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 5: went to the business partner.

477
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: I was like, can't work with him.

478
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, there was some personal things that happened with his family,

479
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 5: like immediately after, and I don't think he was planning

480
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 5: on coming back after that anyway. So fortunately or unfortunately

481
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 5: that happened, and there was a parting of the ways

482
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 5: he was gonna get fired. I don't know exactly how

483
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 5: my business partner handled that, but occasionally, like once every

484
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 5: year or so, we'd have him on to film some

485
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 5: stuff and things were fine. However, at some point after that,

486
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 5: Vince realized he could make more money by being terrible

487
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 5: to me than being civil to me.

488
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: There you can go.

489
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 5: Online and find dozens and dozens of episodes of him

490
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 5: just making fun of how I look, how my co

491
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 5: hosts look, any any number of things, like I don't

492
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 5: care if they break down, like the commentary or anything

493
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 5: like that. Do not care, not a single bit. But

494
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 5: there are dozens of videos of him making fun of

495
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 5: how people look, how they sound, any number of things,

496
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 5: and it all comes back to him saying, Oh, well,

497
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 5: they think they're in the business. No, I'm in I'm

498
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 5: in the news and rumor business. I write wrestling gossip.

499
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 5: That's what I do. I'm very aware of what business

500
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 5: I'm in. But I can't remember what necessarily led to.

501
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: The DM late.

502
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 5: At night, but I know he had said something like,

503
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 5: particularly just rude about me, just really really rude about me. Oh,

504
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: I know what it was, the dramatic watersip I do. Yeah,

505
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 5: So last year I got into a bit of an

506
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 5: altercation with a guy who was every type of bigot possible,

507
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 5: Billy Body.

508
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: We talked about that. Yes, Billy by.

509
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 5: Every type of bigot possible. He hates women, he hates

510
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 5: gay people, he hates transgender people. He claimed he was

511
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 5: going to punch a woman that was a friend of

512
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 5: mine in the head. He said that he was going

513
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 5: to punch me in the back of the head on

514
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 5: site if he ever saw me.

515
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: So, gentlemen, do you work with it exactly? Talked about

516
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: it when it happened because it was circulated around when

517
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: wrestl Khan was sarcast a star cast excuse me and

518
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: Bill so Billy Body is a claim to be reporter. Uh,

519
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: he runs a betting site and again betting site, and

520
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 3: he's a former Big Brother contestant in the UK. He

521
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: is the worst. He is a complete joke and oh yeah, yeah,

522
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 3: oh that. You can't say enough about Billy. That's just

523
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: he's a joke.

524
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 5: He's a horrible person. He's a truly horrible person. Okay,

525
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: And like, if this were about like my opinions on wrestling,

526
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 5: like I'm not gonna I don't care, Like I don't

527
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 5: care if somebody says something about that. But he said

528
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 5: he was going to punch me in the back of

529
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 5: the head on site, et cetera. So I see him

530
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: at this thing. I wait for him to walk by me.

531
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 5: It was not on site. He did not hit me,

532
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 5: but I'm not gonna let him get in the position

533
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 5: to do that. So I got into his face and

534
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 5: I said, what's the deal here? So Vince, to his audience,

535
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 5: pedals this notion that I was mad at some wrestling

536
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 5: opinion of Billy's, and I'm like, no, I was mad

537
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 5: that he said he was going to punch a woman.

538
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 5: I was mad that he let me interject one more thing.

539
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 5: He was also working semi closely with Vince well, so there.

540
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: Was at closer association with Billy and Vince, and Billy

541
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: also working with K one hundred, which he has since

542
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: been fired from because he was making up stories. So

543
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: of of.

544
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 5: Whom have asked me to come on K one hundred

545
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 5: numerous times. I can confirm that too, because Disco and

546
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 5: I used to be somewhat cool. We were in the

547
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 5: same fantasy football league or something. And the way that

548
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 5: somebody told way that somebody in WDB told me about Disco,

549
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: they said, he's the reason people call you and try

550
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: to sell you an extended car warranty. He's the guy

551
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: that buys it. And I said, okay, I'll try to

552
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 5: not pay too much mind to him, but wow, Vince

553
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 5: tried to portray the Billy thing as like me being

554
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 5: aggressive and trying to fight a guy over wrestling opinions,

555
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 5: which would never happen, absolutely not. But if you tell

556
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 5: me or say publicly I'm going to punch a woman,

557
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: well then get the hell out of this convention that

558
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: I'm at. You're not gonna be welcome there. And I

559
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 5: don't care who you are, what you look like, or

560
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 5: anything like that. And if not me, somebody else is

561
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 5: gonna boot you the hell out of there, and Shocker

562
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: Killer Cross did the same thing.

563
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 3: The next day.

564
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 5: Killer Cross got into the dude's face, made him apologize

565
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: to Scarlet for the horrible things he said about her.

566
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

567
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he got kicked out of Rick Flair's last match

568
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: three different times.

569
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: Wow yeah, So Vince is on, Yeah.

570
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 5: Vince's online saying, you know, he said horribly racist things

571
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 5: about black members of our team. About funny enough, he

572
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 5: was like in my face, saying, I'm brown, how can

573
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: I be racist? Well, I don't know read your twitter, buddy,

574
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: But anyway, Vince perpetuated that it was because of wrestling,

575
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 5: even though dozens of people said, it's not about wrestling.

576
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: This is what it's about.

577
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 5: And he kind of dug into his heels and then

578
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: he's like, well, why did you call Disco Inferno a

579
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: little bitch on one of your tweets?

580
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: And I said, because he was being a little bit

581
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: about it.

582
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 5: Almost like he gave this platform to a guy who

583
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 5: said he was gonna hit a woman, Like what, I'm sorry.

584
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: If anybody on my team said they were gonna hit

585
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 5: a woman, you're fired immediately, You're gone.

586
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: That's it.

587
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: Not to mention racist stuff, not to mention homophobic and

588
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 5: transphobic stuff ain't gonna happen.

589
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: So to me, that's where I was like, Okay.

590
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, Vince appears to be what everybody else said. He

591
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 5: was not the person that I experienced. Because I can

592
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 5: deal with him turning in lazy writing or something. I

593
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 5: don't think he's a bad person because of that, or

594
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: not being motivated at work. Plenty of people aren't motivated

595
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: at work and it doesn't make me think they're a

596
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: bad person. That's what made me go, hm, okay, you're

597
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 5: knowingly lying about this guy. There's no way you haven't

598
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 5: seen his Twitter conduct and all that. So Vince did

599
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: a bunch of shows.

600
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: On me after that.

601
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 5: That's when he had decided, well, I can make more

602
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 5: money being terrible to Sean, and not only that, terrible

603
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: to my co host Denise, who is a Hispanic woman

604
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 5: who has had to overcome an awful lot of hurdles

605
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: to get where she is in wrestling, like, had to

606
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: had to work her ass off, does everything she can.

607
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: Picked on her quite a bit as well, but you

608
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 5: know she's a big girl. She can she can handle it.

609
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: But what he would do. He would like.

610
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: Bury her and then try to get her on the

611
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 5: show repeatedly, and it would you know, that's not comfortable,

612
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 5: that's not nice, that's not like, Hey, I'm gonna bury

613
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 5: you and then we're gonna have you on the show

614
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 5: to defend yourself, Like that's to that audience. So I

615
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 5: think Vince had tweeted something about me, and I'm not

616
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 5: gonna name names right now, but one of his friends

617
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 5: who is very successful, because I replied, I was like, Vince,

618
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: what are you doing? And this person said, Vince doesn't

619
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: think about you as much as you think he does.

620
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: And I said to him, I bet you one thousand

621
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 5: dollars I can get Vince to do sixty minutes of

622
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: audio on me within a week. And that guy goes,

623
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 5: there's no way, there's no way. She's He even said

624
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: he's got too much to do. And I posted the

625
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 5: screenshots of this after it happened, and uh, he is like, man,

626
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 5: he doesn't he doesn't care that much. He's like it's

627
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 5: a bit for him. And I was like, I guarantee

628
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: you he does. So I mentioned our message Vince and

629
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 5: I sent him the link to the show, and I said, Vince,

630
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: I just want to say this to you directly. You're

631
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 5: a coward and a joke. And I could tell Vince

632
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: was getting riled up, because when Vince.

633
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: Doesn't have something to say.

634
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 5: That's when he's riled up. If he's saying something, he's

635
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: in his comfort zone. But if he doesn't have something

636
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 5: to say back after all the shots he took personally, professionally,

637
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 5: physically make fun of how people look and all that stuff,

638
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: that's when I know. So when Vince is like lol, haha,

639
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: that's when Vince is bothered. That's when Vince has riled up.

640
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 5: And this person, this friend of his, when we came

641
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 5: to the Funny Enough, it was for NAMI as well.

642
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 5: We did this for the National Alliance on Mental Illness

643
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: as well. I was like, listen, I don't need the money,

644
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: but if you donated it, that'd be great. Well, a

645
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: couple of days went by and Vince didn't do a show,

646
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 5: so I was like, all right, I'm gonna make him

647
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 5: do a show. So I tweeted that I'm gonna do

648
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: a show about the interaction with Vince, and then Vince

649
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 5: immediately was like doing a live show right now, and

650
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 5: he got on the air. He got on the air

651
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: and listen, Vince can't be mad that somebody's trolling him.

652
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 5: He cannot be mad about that. That's what he does

653
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 5: for a living. And about forty five minutes into the show,

654
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 5: his friend messaged me and said, he's starting to wrap up, buddy,

655
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 5: he's got to go the full hour. So I hopped

656
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 5: in the line chat and I felt like I was

657
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 5: keeping him on the line like those old movies like

658
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: to track his location. I was just trying to get there.

659
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: He did another forty five.

660
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: Chat.

661
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: Yes.

662
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 5: To his friend's credit, his friend not only at the

663
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 5: hour mark, sent one thousand dollars Tonami at the one

664
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 5: and a half hour mark sent another five hundred dollars,

665
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, that was worth it to

666
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 5: me now, I mean, Vince has never let it go.

667
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: Vince stopped talking about me for a little bit after

668
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 5: I posted the screenshots with his friend's name redacted, saying hey, listen,

669
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: because I was I was in his DMS and I

670
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 5: was like, you should call me, Vince. You should call

671
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 5: me right now, call me Vince.

672
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: I was.

673
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, while he was live and before that too, because

674
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I've I've worked with Vince, and I

675
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 5: know what agitates Vince, and Vince doesn't like to admit

676
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 5: when he gets got. Vince, really he doesn't like it.

677
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 5: So during the show, I was actually I was sending

678
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 5: him all the horrible comments in the chat. I was

679
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 5: sending them to his DMS, of which he blocked me afterwards.

680
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: But Vince got got. That's what it was.

681
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 5: Vince said terrible things about me. He said terrible things

682
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 5: about my co host. He brought up people that I

683
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 5: don't bring up online for specific reasons, and he knows why.

684
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: He did that to try to get a rise out

685
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: of me. And then Vince got got and now now

686
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 5: he sticks with it, and now he's very, very upset.

687
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 4: But I've learned so much tonight. I've learned them listen.

688
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: I've learned that Sean is a worker. I've learned that

689
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: Sean is also a massive ball breaker. Yes, I've learned,

690
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: and doesn't give two shits about anything.

691
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 5: I don't stand to benefit from having Vince Russo on

692
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: a show ever ever, never. But I just for years

693
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 5: I just kept quiet about ben So. I was like whatever,

694
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 5: Like I don't have any issue with him. He was

695
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 5: nice to me. But when you sit there and you

696
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 5: cape for a person who is every type of bigot

697
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 5: on the planet, that tells me a lot about your character.

698
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 5: Because it wasn't a uh you know what I should

699
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 5: disassociate with him because he said he was going to

700
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 5: punch a woman. It was him pretending that that stuff

701
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 5: didn't exist, and then he turned it into well why

702
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 5: are you why are you bothered by Disco? Well, because

703
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: Disco did the same thing, and it's.

704
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: Not like a.

705
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: Like a lol, you're a snowflake thing. This guy said he.

706
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 3: Was going to hit a woman.

707
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, A little bit different than were you.

708
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: A fan of wrestling growing up?

709
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, big fan.

710
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: Were you a fan of Vincerouso's writing? I mean, don't

711
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: even think about you being working. You were not a

712
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: fan of the nineties Vincerouzel.

713
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: I mean no, no.

714
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 5: The most I can say that I enjoyed of his

715
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 5: work is that I enjoyed that everybody had something to

716
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 5: do other than that, Like I was, I was very

717
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 5: much not a fan of the type of thing that

718
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 5: Vince did.

719
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: Okay, because you know how they always say, never meet

720
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: your your heroes, right, and so sometimes like I'm a

721
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: fan of somebody's work and then I meet them at

722
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: a convention and they're totally note and I'm.

723
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Just like, I want to like this person so badly,

724
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: but there's such a jerk. And sure, you know what I.

725
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 5: Mean you You will find hundreds, if not thousands of

726
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 5: people calling me a jerk online. And what I'll ask is, Okay,

727
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 5: go go show me what you did to cause that,

728
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 5: because that's that's my thing. I will not go at

729
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: somebody unless they're they're rude or terrible or something like that.

730
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 5: I brought I blocked liberally online. If somebody's terrible, I'm

731
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 5: just gonna block them. I don't owe them my social

732
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 5: media experience. If they want me to unblock them, they

733
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 5: can message our fightful account, and the fellaw who's run

734
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 5: that for six or seven years can message me and say,

735
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: this guy wants you to unblock him, and I'll be like, yeah, okay,

736
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 5: so what energy exactly like? And if people say terrible

737
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 5: things to me and they're very stupid, I'm going to

738
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 5: quote tweet it and be like that's a stupid like

739
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 5: that's that's it.

740
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: And if you can't, I'll tell you.

741
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 5: The weirdest thing when an adult male online calls somebody

742
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 5: soft for blocking them. I'm like, you're upset that somebody

743
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 5: blocked you on on the.

744
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: World Wide Web. Jbl blocked me ten years ago. I

745
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: ain't sad about it. Guy had a reason. I don't know,

746
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: you know, I don't I don't know.

747
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: You know.

748
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 5: Baron Corbin unblocked me on the air one time.

749
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: Why did he block you? Initially?

750
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 5: Something about the Bengals and the chiefs.

751
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm I'm a Bengals fan.

752
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Really yeah.

753
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: But we had a great talk and he's like, you

754
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: know what, I'm going to unblock you on Twitter.

755
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Now you changed him? You turned well.

756
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 4: I honestly like, I love interisso he's I only worked

757
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: with him one time.

758
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: In Tnay You. He was lovely to me and the

759
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 2: segment was good. I have to amit.

760
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: The segment that he produced was very good. But I

761
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: got to know him a little bit just from the

762
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: online stuff. But I see, I see how you know

763
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: the interactions that he has. And that's why I brought

764
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: up you Sure and Trips and Bubba and all this,

765
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 4: because I just wanted to hear what he was thinking.

766
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 4: And now you've been you.

767
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: You were lovely to me, and I told Vince, I said, well,

768
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: he was lovely when I.

769
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: Met him the one time. Yeah, you know, I forget

770
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: Vince's answer. I don't what did he say, something like,

771
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: I don't know him very well.

772
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah he doesn't. He doesn't.

773
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 5: He doesn't know me very well, but he knew me

774
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 5: well enough to bring up my personal life on camp.

775
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: He said, I don't know you very well. That's why

776
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: you're lovely.

777
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

778
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: I just nice to me when I met him at

779
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: the convention, and that's what I looked for people.

780
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: If you treat me while I treat you well. So yeah,

781
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: I think both of you are great.

782
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: And we just wanted to get your response because we

783
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 4: always like to give everybody opportunity to say their piece,

784
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 4: and I don't want to blindside anyone.

785
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: And you know, I was.

786
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: Just well, yeah, I mean sad.

787
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 5: Vince has entire shows dedicated to being terrible to people.

788
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

789
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 5: And then then and he'll say, oh, it's just us

790
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 5: criticizing the news and podcasts. No, it's it's going at

791
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 5: people their physical appearance and how they sound and all

792
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: that stuff too. Like that's the entire point of the

793
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 5: show is to cultivate an audience of being terrible to

794
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: other people, and then specifically when his audience acts like

795
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 5: that online, he gets surprised when people are like, this

796
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: is kind of toxic. But Vince, until Vince said something

797
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 5: about me, I didn't say anything about him. And Vince

798
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 5: is probably still a little bothered that he got GOT.

799
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 5: And I don't know if his friend told him that

800
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 5: he made a fifteen hundred dollars donation because Vince was

801
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 5: dumb enough to do that show. But I'm glad Vince

802
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 5: was dumb enough to do that show because the people

803
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,959
Speaker 5: who watch that show ain't subscribing to me anyway. They're

804
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 5: not plopping down five dollars a month to subscribe to

805
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 5: my dirt sheet, So don't I didn't lose anything from that.

806
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: And so you gained for the charity, which is great.

807
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 5: Yes, that's we earned fifteen hundred dollars more for a

808
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 5: charity than I ever would have made.

809
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: You earned it by jumping in that shot.

810
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: And let me ask you this. Yeah, when you were

811
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: I got this is just back to to the hound,

812
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: Billy body, the autograph hound who waits outside.

813
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 5: I still Sam when I go do media, I go

814
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 5: do media, so WW will send us the Talent hotels

815
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: to do wrestling interviews, and that son of a bitch

816
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: drags his little kid with him.

817
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Francine, So what he does is he does the

818
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: classic remember we reported and the guys that wait at

819
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: the airports with the Funko pop boxes in the eight

820
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: x ten and Sean, you know, I run a memorabilia company,

821
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: so we have to go through the channels to go

822
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: through the engins and go through the guys the right way.

823
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: So he's a hound. We refer to them as the hounds. Right,

824
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: he drags his kid, Francy, and then uses that as debait. Okay,

825
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 3: when you were face to face with him, how much

826
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: fear was in his disheveled eyes, with his long stringy

827
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: hair when he was doing this thing to you, like

828
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: he was defensive body language wise, So.

829
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 5: I can I can tell you exactly how that went

830
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 5: because he has editorialized how it went. And fortunately Brian

831
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 5: Zane was a couple tables up and Brian Zane didn't

832
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 5: like him, and he sees this and he immediately is like.

833
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: And starts filming it.

834
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 5: I'm not a physically imposing guy or anything like that,

835
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 5: and I hadn't trained in a long time, but like,

836
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: he's not gonna hit me harder than any UFC fighter

837
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 5: hit me that I trained with, So what is there

838
00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 5: to be scared of?

839
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: Not not him?

840
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: So I was like, do you have a problem, And

841
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: he was like, do you have a problem? And I'm like, yeah,

842
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 5: that's literally why I turned you around, because I have

843
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 5: a problem. And I can't remember what led to it,

844
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: but I was like, you said you were gonna punch

845
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 5: me in the back of the head.

846
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: Here's your chance. You said it was on site.

847
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, you want me to get deported and

848
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: I was like, ideally, yeah, I don't care if you

849
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 5: get deported. What do I give a shit? Doesn't bother

850
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 5: me from the US, he's from the UK. Although I

851
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 5: literally walked by his tavern that his family owns. I

852
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: was a mile away from his house doing media. I

853
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: was in London twice this year doing stuff. Didn't hear

854
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 5: from him then, didn't hear from him at all then, but.

855
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: He had.

856
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 5: He tries to say that he was asking to go outside.

857
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 5: The direction he was even pointing was further into the

858
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 5: convention hall than outside. We were right, we were like

859
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 5: fifty feet from the doors. He did not want to

860
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 5: go outside. He did not want to fight. He was

861
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 5: making excuses the entire time, and like, I don't want

862
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 5: to fight anybody at a wrestling convention either, Like that's

863
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 5: that's stupid, it's stupid. But if I feel like a

864
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 5: woman is in danger of being attacked by a guy,

865
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: well then I'm going to do what I can to

866
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 5: get the hell the guy the hell out of there.

867
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 5: And afterwards, Conrad immediately heard what happened, and Conrad was like,

868
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 5: you go me to get him the hell out of there.

869
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 5: And I was like, you know what, if he doesn't

870
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 5: bother anybody, don't kick him out because his kid's with him,

871
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 5: and I didn't know his kid was with him, Yeah,

872
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: because that was his excuse. He said that his kid

873
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: was with him the entire time. His kid was nowhere nearby.

874
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 5: I only found out his kid was there because when

875
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 5: I was interviewing Matt Cardona, he kept walking his kid

876
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 5: by us while I was on camera to make it seen.

877
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: So I was like, yeah, don't do that. But he

878
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: ended up getting kicked out anyway because he kept trying

879
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 5: to sneak backstage.

880
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: Yes, he was his own.

881
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: He did a podcast about it afterwards. And his kid

882
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 5: was even like, no, Dad, I wasn't anywhere near that.

883
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 5: He's like, I didn't know.

884
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: That until after shut up, shut up.

885
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 5: It was so hilarious because the guy whose podcasts he

886
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 5: did was like, Oh, tell me what happened. And there's

887
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 5: the most hilarious jump cut because instead of talking about me,

888
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: he goes on this like homophobic rant and he just

889
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 5: cut it, just cuts right in the middle, and the

890
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 5: guy goes, So, what you're trying.

891
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: To say is.

892
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, but yeah, he a guy did

893
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 5: not did not want to fight anybody, and if listen,

894
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 5: if he acted that way towards me, I can't imagine

895
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 5: what it was like a day later when Killer Cross

896
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 5: saw him. And Killer Cross is the nicest guy. Yeah,

897
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 5: he's so wonderful. Scarlet's wonderful, but a lot of people

898
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 5: don't realize Killer Cross in addition to being a big dude,

899
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 5: he could have been a pro MMA fight he decided

900
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: to be a pro wrestler. He stopped MMA training because

901
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 5: he wanted to be a pro wrestler. That was his passion.

902
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 5: So I'm sure that went well.

903
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: So he just said derogatory comments about Scarlet.

904
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: Just he made up a rumor about Scarlet and some

905
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: of the boys.

906
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

907
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, I mean that happens a lot in

908
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: this business to the women.

909
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: But who's this guy to make up nobody?

910
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: But he does that all the time. I mean, that's

911
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: that's his mom is. He makes up outlander stuff. But

912
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: then he comes up with things like the Rock and

913
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: Roman reigns are gonna main event WrestleMania. So if something

914
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: like that happens, he goes told you told you, Yeah,

915
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: well he's gonna happen. You know, nobody listen to me.

916
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: And that was the thing that was one of the

917
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 5: issues I had with Disco. I was like, Disco, you're

918
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: having him on for exclusive news. He's making this up,

919
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 5: and what he doesn't make up he is very publicly

920
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 5: reading verbatim from my website, like he got.

921
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: Caught content from you guys.

922
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean, like we're doing well, I don't

923
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 5: care that much. But and Disco was like, oh, well,

924
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 5: why don't.

925
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: You come on?

926
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 5: Then I was like, Disco, you've let this guy bury

927
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 5: me for a year and a half on your show.

928
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: Why would I do like you need me? I don't

929
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: need you.

930
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 5: Like it's that's where we're at, Like there's a reason

931
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 5: I'm not asking you to be on our show. Uh yeah,

932
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 5: Like I don't need that. I don't like And that's

933
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: what I said about Vince. I don't need Vince on

934
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 5: my show. Me and Vince are very good on camera together,

935
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 5: but I'm good on camera with a whole lot of people.

936
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: So not that not that big of a deal.

937
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: You put yourself over let these people.

938
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: I do know, so I feel too. It's funny.

939
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: Well, look, I learned so much about you, about life,

940
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 4: about things, so I'm happy.

941
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: This happened me too.

942
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: This wasn't scheduled. Everyone I see.

943
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 5: I I didn't know that you remembered who I was.

944
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 5: All based on square circus, I don't know.

945
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: I don't know, but you were so wonderful to me.

946
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: You're so nice, and we tried to make it work,

947
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 5: and even like even when I left, you were like, hey,

948
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 5: I've got a little time, and I was like, damn,

949
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: I'm on the road now.

950
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: And he kind of like blew me off when I was.

951
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 5: Like as if, as if so funny enough. One of

952
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 5: the things Vince buried this week was me wrestling that match,

953
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 5: because he said it was in front of twenty five people,

954
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 5: and I'm like, listen, I radyed sixty six hundred dollars

955
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 5: for the National Alliance on Mental Illness. Like, Vince, when's

956
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 5: the last time you donated anything to anybody?

957
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: Like that?

958
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 5: Was?

959
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 3: That was my thing?

960
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 5: And a lot of people gave him crap over it

961
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 5: because he goes, yeah, he wrestled a woman. I was like, Vince,

962
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: you booked Medusa versus ed Ferrara on one of your shows.

963
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: Come on, what are we doing here?

964
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 5: You can't pretend to be bothered by that.

965
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 4: Anything that has to do with a reputable charity. I

966
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: am one hundred percent on board with it. Doesn't matter

967
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: how silly or not saying you were silly, but I'm

968
00:47:58,920 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: just saying.

969
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: Oh, it was silly.

970
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: Any but any idea that's silly or doesn't make sense

971
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: or what if it's.

972
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: Raising money for a charity?

973
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 4: Who cares? Knowres how many people are in the building.

974
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: Who The point is you raised a ton of money

975
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: for a wonderful cause, and that should be applauded. That

976
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 4: shouldn't be frowned upon at all.

977
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 5: It certainly was silly, though I did an atomic drop,

978
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 5: and because she's got such a big ass I sold

979
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 5: my knee.

980
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 4: So I've done spots where I can like look back

981
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: and say, oh my god, ridiculous.

982
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: But it got a pop and it was fun and

983
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: it got over.

984
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 5: So who cares our social media?

985
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: Our social media guy.

986
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 5: Told me we have as of today, one point four

987
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 5: million views on clips of that.

988
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: That's how silly that is.

989
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 5: So I just want to say, uh, I can tell

990
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 5: you the number of times T and A drew one

991
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 5: point four million under Vince Russo spitting facts.

992
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying that's awesome.

993
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 4: Where can people find you and you know, look at

994
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 4: your content online?

995
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 5: I am currently uh moving, I'm now renting out space

996
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 5: in Vince Russo's head.

997
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: People can find me there.

998
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a permanent residence there after this show,

999
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 5: so people can find me Russo's brand dot com because

1000
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 5: he needs the subscriptions a whole lot.

1001
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: Wow.

1002
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm gonna plug Fight Fault with you to

1003
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: fight full and read some of Sean stuff. Look up

1004
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: that video of him wrestling one point for mel We

1005
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: can get it.

1006
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 3: Or don't or don't at all.

1007
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: I want I'm gonna look at off as un as

1008
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: this is over. I want to see it in bull

1009
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: You were delightful. I appreciate you coming on, and hopefully

1010
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: I get to sit down with.

1011
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 2: You sometime in the future. I hope discuss life in

1012
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: my ridiculous you know what I'm gonna Oh no, I

1013
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: can wait over this, you can.

1014
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: I got this Blu Ray.

1015
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 2: Look at that.

1016
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 5: I did a rewatch of This is a it's a

1017
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 5: bootlet Blu Ray, but it's the original presentations of all

1018
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 5: the e c W and TNN.

1019
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: Was not our best, our latest YouTube video.

1020
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 5: I loved it because that's what I had. I didn't

1021
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 5: get to watch hardcore TV. I had ec W and TNN,

1022
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 5: so that was like my introduction to it.

1023
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, you.

1024
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: Missed out on the lot because the syndicated show was

1025
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 4: fire compared to that.

1026
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 5: Oh I went back and watched it, fortunately, But but

1027
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 5: I I did a rewatch of that recently and oh god,

1028
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 5: I loved it. I'm I'm a sucker for it.

1029
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: I appreciate that because that's that's that's me.

1030
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 5: That's so thank you all so much for having me on.

1031
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: It means so much.

1032
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 4: On and hopefully next year I'm booked a lot. I'm

1033
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 4: excited about it. I'll run into you somewhere.

1034
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

1035
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 3: Oh we we will.

1036
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: For sure.

1037
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 4: Don't blow me off this time, okay, could I would

1038
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 4: never collab.

1039
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: We'll do something, Yes, we will. You've seen her swing

1040
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: that cane on that DVD. It's not it's not pretty.

1041
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: So I don't need any more that.

1042
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: You were great. Thanks for coming on. We appreciate it.

1043
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: Good luck with everything, Thank you all. So yeah, yeah,

1044
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, it kind of made me sad that we

1045
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: had such strife between our recording day.

1046
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: Ill about Vince, Like those things I never thought would

1047
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 4: come out of Vince's mouth.

1048
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: So it's like again he said, he said, I wasn't there.

1049
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: What's the deal? Who's telling the truth, who's lying? You know,

1050
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 4: it's it's a tough one. I have respect for both

1051
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: guys though, because I feel like they both have a

1052
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: lot to the wrestling community and the wrestling business. So

1053
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: let me go on record with that.

1054
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 3: I remember when all that was going down. I watched

1055
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: the videos, you know, I remember it, all the fighting

1056
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: that they were doing. You know, obviously you can't be

1057
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: on the inside. That's only between the two people, but

1058
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: we heard both sides. If you listen to both of

1059
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: these podcasts, so you know, your your opinion now is

1060
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 3: your opinion. But you know again, just like you said,

1061
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 3: Shawn's nothing but good to me. Since I've been podcasting

1062
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: and reported on stuff and shared stuff and been great.

1063
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: Vince helped me very much in podcasting house. This show

1064
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: for a little bit, took care of us with the

1065
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: Triple Threat podcast. I have nothing but love for Vince

1066
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: Russo as well. So people. Not everybody loves each other,

1067
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: so unfortunately the way the cookie crumbles.

1068
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, unfortunate. Then, like you said, not everybody gets along.

1069
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 4: We all have our foes and nemesis in this world,

1070
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 4: and you know, some choose to confront in and others

1071
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 4: choose to just ignore. And I don't know, it's just

1072
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: sad to I just want everyone to get along.

1073
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: All just get along.

1074
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm to say, who said it? Can't we all just

1075
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 3: get along?

1076
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but I remember that that phrase.

1077
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: But you know, I like the charity aspect and I

1078
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 4: like that he's a reporter who actually took a bump.

1079
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: That impressed me because not many of them do.

1080
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: And you know they will be the first to tell

1081
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: you you are the drizzling shits when they have no

1082
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: idea what the bump entails, you know how to sell,

1083
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 4: how to psychology everything. They know nothing about it, yet

1084
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: they can critique and comment till their heart's desire.

1085
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 3: I can't remember if it was Bully with us, Bubba,

1086
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: excuse me, I don't mean to call him Bully in

1087
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: your presence. I can't remember if it was Bubba or

1088
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: if it was somebody else off our airwaves that said

1089
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: that only people who have not been in the business

1090
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: use the phrase work rate.

1091
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: Oh true, Probably if Bubba said it.

1092
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: I think I feel like it was Bubba. Maybe it

1093
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: wasn't on our show, but I feel like I heard

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00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: somebody say that recently. That is of the Bubba stature.

1095
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: And you know, a guy who reports on it that

1096
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: took a bump, that did it, is going to tell

1097
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: you something a little bit more accurate than say, you know,

1098
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to use the stereotypical. Yeah, you know

1099
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 3: thought of what a wrestling journalist is, but you get

1100
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: the you get the picture in your head. He's not it,

1101
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: but you know, to make say something work greater, this

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00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 3: guy is the great worker. When you don't essentially know

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00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 3: what a worker is.

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00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 6: It it's okay to be a fan and it's okay

1105
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 6: to have an opinion, but when people look at you

1106
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 6: like you're a god and you're you're spewing hate and

1107
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 6: you have no idea what you're talking about.

1108
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: That irritates me.

1109
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 4: When you've never taken a bump in your life or

1110
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: never worked a show, you know you you have insider

1111
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: information because one of the guys is a stooge and

1112
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 4: he tells you stuff that doesn't make you a good journalist,

1113
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: that doesn't make you an expert on how to work

1114
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 4: or take a bump or you know, practice psychology in

1115
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 4: your match. And that's what gets under my skin. When

1116
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: all these fans and I could use the term mark

1117
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: if I want it to, but we're all marks. I

1118
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: say that all the time. But when they look at

1119
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: these certain journalists as godlike, yeah, makes me sick to

1120
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 4: my stomach. They know what the stooge tells them and

1121
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 4: they report it big deal.

1122
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: That irritates me. And now I'm irritating that's a lot.

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00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 3: It's the I mean, yeah, it's just it's it's Studi's

1124
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 3: you're getting paid to stooge most of the time.

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Speaker 2: More.

1126
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 3: I mean, look in the eighties and in the nineties,

1127
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: when there wasn't a lot of wrestling reporting, and there

1128
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 3: weren't outlets like the Internet to put this news out

1129
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: like that. We had to live off of those little

1130
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: outlets that were out there because you wanted to know

1131
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: what was going on on the inside, right, But the

1132
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: people that gave the news to those guys got buried,

1133
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 3: you know, they were vehemently despised. I never wanted to

1134
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: be a wrestler. That was literally never ever. And when

1135
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: last week's episode with Vincey talked about people's dreams, all

1136
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: the wrestlers today, my dream was to be the champion.

1137
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: My dream was this. I never wanted to be a wrestler.

1138
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be around owned the business. So

1139
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 3: I was able to do that, and guess what, I

1140
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: didn't love it. So I do this as my outlet.

1141
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 3: He took the bumps he had a match this weekend.

1142
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: Good for him. I give him all the credit in

1143
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: the world. I'm sure he feels it in his back

1144
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: this morning, you know, or in the back of his

1145
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: head with the cane shots that he took. So I

1146
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: can't say any of the other journalists are doing that.

1147
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: You know, there's a way too to be a civilized.

1148
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: Human being and report things with kuth and with you know,

1149
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: a sense of compassion and not be so hateful towards

1150
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 4: other people, especially towards women. There's a way to go

1151
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 4: about things, and some of these journalists just don't get it.

1152
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: They didn't get it in.

1153
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: The nineties and they still are reporting today and they

1154
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 4: don't get it today. So that's why I've never had

1155
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: any respect for them. Number one for the way that

1156
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 4: they write, because they're just hateful human beings. But number two,

1157
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 4: because they have not trained, and they have not taken

1158
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 4: a bump, and they have not, you know, experience what

1159
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: we have. And it's okay to say you're not a

1160
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 4: fan or you don't like somebody's work, but when you

1161
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 4: take it fifty steps above that and just insult them

1162
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: every chance you get and just berate them as a

1163
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 4: human being, that is so far beyond the sport of wrestling,

1164
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 4: and it's not necessary. And there are reporters who are

1165
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 4: like that, and I just find that they should not

1166
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 4: be in this business, let alone be paid forty five

1167
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: to fifty dollars for their autograph at wrestling makes me

1168
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: sick to my stomach.

1169
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: You know, I just I should have thought about this

1170
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: when Sean was on. You know, back to Vince Russo.

1171
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: You know, if we're giving Seawan credit for you know,

1172
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: taking the bumps and learning the business from that side, right,

1173
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: Vince gets panned, yes, for what he did as being

1174
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: a writer, but also then being a performer. Now, Vince

1175
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 3: learned to train all the way back. Guess where in

1176
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: Gleason's gym mm hmm with Johnny Rods. You know Johnny

1177
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: Rods trained Big Veto and I mean he might have

1178
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 3: did he also train Taz I believe so Johnny Rod Yeah,

1179
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: Johnny Rods. So, I mean that's a pedigree like not

1180
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: many people have. So, but Vince Russo gets panned for

1181
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: what he did in w CW all we put himself

1182
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: over all, we put the belt on himself. He did

1183
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,479
Speaker 3: this and that. But Vince took the licks, yeah, learn

1184
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 3: how to do the move or that took the bumps

1185
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 3: in the business.

1186
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 4: So he was one of the boys. He wasn't entertainer.

1187
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: He wasn't just a writer, you know what. He wasn't

1188
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 4: on air talent. And you could say the same for

1189
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 4: Paul Haman. Yeah, all run the company, but he was

1190
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 4: also an on air talent. Before ECW came around. So

1191
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 4: anybody who's worked and who's been in front of that

1192
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 4: live crowd and who's taken a bump, I had the

1193
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 4: utmost respect.

1194
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: For an appreciation.

1195
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 4: I just don't like these sheet writers who just go

1196
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 4: off on tander and insult and be great and you know,

1197
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: make people cry because I've cried.

1198
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: I there's there's no room for it.

1199
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: It's it's not necessary unless you have like a legit

1200
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: beef with somebody and you want to go ahead to

1201
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 4: head like these guys are. I never even met these

1202
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 4: sheep wriiters. You know, this is back thirty years ago.

1203
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: I never even met them face to face. So to

1204
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: make a little girl cry, I think that that's like

1205
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: just the coward move, and an easy one at that.

1206
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: And to have all these disciples just follow you wherever

1207
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 4: you go and tell you how great you are just makes.

1208
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: Me sick to my stomach.

1209
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: So amenswer today.

1210
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 4: Anyway, great episode, wonderful week here.

1211
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey my water tank burst. A guy wanted to

1212
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: charge me twelve hundred bucks. The part was the part

1213
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: was forty and my guy charged me sixty. End of story.

1214
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: That was my thing from earlier.

1215
00:59:58,840 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: That's terrible.

1216
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 4: I'm glad you didn't pay all that money. Yeah, hideous.

1217
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: You can't work a worker, That's all I have to say.

1218
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: Where can people find you if they need to? And

1219
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 2: we have to plug? We got a YouTube live coming up.

1220
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, at Chad E and B on Twitter, at IB

1221
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: exclusives on Instagram. Go to ibexclusives dot com for anything

1222
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: going on in my world and I'll let you plug

1223
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 3: all the YouTube greatness.

1224
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: So I believe this drops on Tuesday.

1225
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: Oh I don't know. I feel like this should be rushed.

1226
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: It's the nineteenth. Well, no, because we have to wait

1227
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: because we have last week.

1228
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a this is crazy.

1229
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: Just let you know.

1230
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: We've taped two episodes in one day, and you know

1231
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: we have to put them up in the order that

1232
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 4: they were recorded.

1233
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: But I believe this might drop on the nineteenth.

1234
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 4: So the twenty first, which is a Thursday, we are

1235
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: having a Christmas live stream on YouTube.

1236
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: Are I date? It's correct?

1237
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: Let me let me confirm this here or maybe no?

1238
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 3: Maybe oh you are the this is dropping on the nineteenth.

1239
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: We are having a YouTube twenty first.

1240
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: That's what I said. Okay, okay, I haven't written down right, here.

1241
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: You are correct, Queen Live.

1242
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 5: Are we doing seven pm?

1243
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 4: Um?

1244
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven pm.

1245
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 4: More seven pm Eastern Span your time. Come on over

1246
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 4: for the festivities. We do it once a year. We're

1247
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 4: gonna have a good time and we would love if

1248
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,160
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1249
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 4: go on over to our YouTube page and subscribe.

1250
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:32,960
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1251
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,560
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1252
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,240
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1253
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,440
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1254
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: be put up.

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01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 4: And if you want and are in the giving aspect

1256
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 4: of the holiday, you can become a channel member for

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Speaker 4: five ninety nine and get all the exclusive content that

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Speaker 4: regular members cannot get. So ECW Dva Francine with an

1259
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Speaker 4: exclamation point, and if you want to follow me on

1260
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: social media, you can find me at e c W

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01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: David Francine.

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Speaker 2: I hope you were staying safe. I hope you were

1263
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: saying healthy and mist of all, I hope you were

1264
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: saying

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Speaker 5: Y