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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Henderson, and yes, hello, Happy New Years. It's

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Speaker 1: a brand new year of us talking about movies with you.

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Speaker 2: Danielle, Happy New Year. What did you do for New Years?

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Speaker 2: How was your break? Break? Was good?

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Speaker 1: Did absolutely nothing on New Year's as I always do.

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Speaker 2: Sweets. I appreciate that, you know that I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, it's so funny because now

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Speaker 1: I think back to like my twenties, especially my twenties,

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Speaker 1: but even in my thirties, and I remember I used

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Speaker 1: to go out every year for New Year's and I

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Speaker 1: talked about this, I think last year. But I used

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Speaker 1: to work on New Year's Eve because I used to

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Speaker 1: be a DJ, and that was like a really good

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Speaker 1: excuse to just be like, well, I got something to do,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't have to come up with a thing

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Speaker 1: that you know is really stressful and it is really

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Speaker 1: really loaded, and then you know, if it doesn't work

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Speaker 1: out perfectly, then I'm gonna have a fucking bad year.

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Speaker 2: Why do people think that that's so fucked up?

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Speaker 3: There's so much pressure for New Year's for that reason,

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Speaker 3: because people like attach all these arbitrary bad things that

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Speaker 3: could happen if you don't party or get drunk enough

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Speaker 3: that I'm like, eh, that's so far that hasn't really

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Speaker 2: It's just no, I know exactly.

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Speaker 1: And you know the other thing that I fucking resent

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Speaker 1: the hell out of is that it's like a second

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: Oh do you know what I'm saying about that?

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Speaker 1: Like it's like people feel really stressed out if they

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Speaker 1: don't like find love on New Year's.

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Speaker 3: Eve or some shit, or I to have someone to

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Speaker 3: go out with on New Year's Eve, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: good Lord, let me stay at home and do laundry

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Speaker 3: and be happy.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know.

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Speaker 1: And like that was the thing was that, Like, so

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Speaker 1: for many years I worked New Year's Eve and then

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Speaker 1: I would Then when I didn't, I was always like

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Speaker 1: stressing the fuck out about Well, now I gotta go

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Speaker 1: find a party outfit. Now I got to go out

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Speaker 1: with somebody, because God forbid, you end up like fucking

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Speaker 1: Meg Ryan.

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Speaker 2: And when Harry met.

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Speaker 1: Sally, the demonic film that set all these rules for

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Speaker 1: people that are ruined, ruining our lives.

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Speaker 2: Life ruining, a life ruining film.

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Speaker 3: And look, people still people still comment and write in

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Speaker 3: and they're like, I still love this movie. It's like, great,

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Speaker 3: you're allowed to. I think it is a life ruiner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just like this that kind of tradition thing

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Speaker 1: where you're like, well, I can't be alone on New

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Speaker 1: Year's and then I now I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I only want to be alone on New Years. It's

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Speaker 1: like a perfect time to catch up on sleep, on movies.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Does that make me sound sad? Is

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Speaker 2: that sad?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Listen for you know how I am from Thanksgiving through

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Speaker 3: New Year's. I don't give a fuck about a holiday.

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Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't want to be around people

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Speaker 3: most of the year. I don't want to be around people.

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Speaker 3: I especially don't want to be around people during the holidays.

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Speaker 3: And it is I get It's wonderful. I get so

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Speaker 3: much done during the holidays because nobody bothers me. You're

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Speaker 3: Like why would I not take advantage of that. I

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Speaker 3: like I'm not bored or boring, like I love being alone.

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Speaker 3: I love hanging out by myself, Like, yeah, give me

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Speaker 2: And I did. I did.

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Speaker 3: I can't put a new tradition for myself this year, though,

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Speaker 3: Oh for New Years And A great way to skip

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Speaker 3: all the bullshit on New Year's Eve is to be

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Speaker 3: on a plane. So I went to London over the break.

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Speaker 3: Oh hell, and I flew out on New Year's Eve

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Speaker 3: and landed on New Year's Day, like I flew overnight.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, fucking dope, fell asleep, woke up in another

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Speaker 1: Was the plane like a party plane? Like I was

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Speaker 1: like wondering about that? Is if, like you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're actually on a plane during a holiday, whether or not,

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Speaker 1: like do you turn up on the plane?

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Speaker 2: Not my plane? My plane was not like fucking what

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Speaker 2: was that Snoop Dogg movie? Like the fucking soul plane,

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Speaker 2: soul plane, only soul plane.

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Speaker 3: It was not so And if they tried to make

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Speaker 3: it soul plane, I would have asked for a full

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Speaker 3: fucking refund, a full fucking refund. Like, I don't care

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Speaker 3: that it's New Year's. Have some decorum. We're on a

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Speaker 3: Gazian plane. Go to sleep. It's a red eye. Shut

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Speaker 1: Well, And according to films, I must say this. Anytime

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Speaker 1: anybody working on New Year's decides to party at their workplace,

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Speaker 1: bad things happen.

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Speaker 2: Oh, especially in mid air. Come on. Yeah, like, how if.

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Speaker 3: You decided to take this shift or were I'm fortunate

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Speaker 3: l Yeah, you can't turn this into your personal party.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see a fucking a hat.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see one of those streamers like

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Speaker 3: they're called. Just let me get on this plane and

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Speaker 3: be an adult and wake up somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm glad that you did it. Did

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Speaker 1: you have a good time?

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Speaker 2: I had a dope time.

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Speaker 3: I went and saw some friends and I kind of

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Speaker 3: I do this thing I've noticed over the past couple

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Speaker 2: I gotta go. I'll go somewhere else, like another country

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Speaker 3: Sure, that's kind of what happened this time is I

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Speaker 2: It was miserable for me and.

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Speaker 3: Many many, many ways, and I needed some time to

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Speaker 3: also I just I really needed I needed, as we've

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Speaker 2: But also she was just getting like.

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Speaker 3: just it's just progressing, you know. It happens that way

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Speaker 3: the nurses that she's with. But we have a good time.

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Speaker 3: has an enemy. My grandmother is not happy unless she

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Speaker 3: she's arbitrarily chosen a nonverbal, bed bound woman to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We were in the lunch from one day, and you

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Speaker 3: usually she feeds herself, but whenever I'm there at lunch,

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Speaker 3: And then as is, they're wheeling this woman in in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can't. I couldn't do it. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: And that's not wrong, by the way, Like it's not

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I feel like this was the best decision for

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Speaker 1: Terrible thing that I think that our family had imagined.

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Speaker 3: It's it's completely in line with my grandma that I

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Speaker 1: Look, we all go in thinking one thing and it

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Speaker 3: And I don't regret it. That's the thing, Like I

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Speaker 2: They don't like me either.

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Speaker 3: They don't like me, they don't respect me, they don't

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Speaker 3: And I think they were really rooting for me to fail,

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Speaker 3: which is so fucked Like you're rooting for me to

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Speaker 3: And so he was apologetic, but I was still like,

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Speaker 3: But I'm not going to put myself up on the

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Speaker 2: On my fucking family. Yeah. So it just was.

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Speaker 3: Horrible, like a horrible realization but also kind of a

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Speaker 2: They don't like me either, and it's fine. We don't

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Speaker 1: Well, I have to say, I mean you, I have

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Speaker 1: You're incredibly talented, smart, and you have made your own family, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like that, and that's thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 3: And I do feel that in a very big way,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I'd rather put my I'd rather just put my

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Speaker 2: I just don't. It's not practical for me anymore.

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Speaker 3: Sure, And so I think that, Like every time my

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Speaker 3: because it's it's I'm just done with it, like it's

439
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: no longer about Like I just have nothing left to

440
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 3: prove and nothing nothing left to give, you know, I

441
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: just I don't have anything to prove to them. I

442
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 3: don't think it makes me less of a good person

443
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: to not be in contact with them when being in

444
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 3: contact with them makes me so roundly miserable. Yeah, it

445
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 3: makes me feel like a big piece of shit.

446
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: Well, you're not a fucking piece of shit at all.

447
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look what you done. You've completely changed your

448
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: life to care for your family members. And even if

449
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: they would never do that for you, I mean that

450
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: that is some great.

451
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: Karma coming back to you at some point.

452
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I just have to say, because it's like

453
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: very selfless, and I know that you know, you expected

454
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: her to be at your house, probably a lot longer

455
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: than what actually happened. But still you're you spend Thanksgiving

456
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: with her, You're there for her at every point. You're

457
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: in the same town. That's a lot lot easier than

458
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: it would have been if you were in La.

459
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: Still, you know what I mean, made.

460
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: Choice, even if it is kind of you know, I know,

461
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: like the New Year is always like a it's like

462
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: a very contemplative time, and everyone's kind of reassessing priorities

463
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: and changing changing things. And if this is just something

464
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: that you've decided for this, for this moment in your life,

465
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's different further down the line. Maybe people will

466
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: grow well conscience later as they get older, especially but

467
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: if not, you got us, You got your friends and

468
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: the people that have cared about you and have done

469
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: it in spite of your biological family not you know

470
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 1: what I mean.

471
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 3: And I think I thank you, and I agree, and

472
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: I think that it's kind of weird because I've always

473
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 3: been that person who said the same thing, like, well.

474
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: Maybe later they'll be this, or maybe later they'll change.

475
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: But I think what's more like psychologically important for me

476
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: now is that like, yeah, they might, but I'm still

477
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: not going to be around for it. I hope they

478
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 3: do in a way that benefits their life, but I

479
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: am just done. And I think that that's cool and

480
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 3: it's important and it's fine for me to just be done. Yeah,

481
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 3: And if they do change or if anything changes for them,

482
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 3: may it benefit their their lives, but they don't get

483
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: to impact mine anymore or my grandmother honestly, like they

484
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: don't get to disappoint and worry and make her feel

485
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: sad because she asked constantly like, where's my family?

486
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't have an answer for that.

487
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

488
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: My mother has not been to see her once, hasn't

489
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: seen her in months. I think my brother goes to

490
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: see her, but I don't talk to him about it.

491
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: But I don't know how to answer that for her,

492
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: and I think that it's more painful to have to

493
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: talk about that with her as well.

494
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: So I think that, you know, I.

495
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: Just let us, let us be, and she will have

496
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: her own relationship with these people if she wants. There's

497
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: nothing I can do about it, and nothing I want

498
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: to do about it. But I just really feel a

499
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: weightlifted in that way, Like my grandmother was not a

500
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: burden to me, but she just needed more than I

501
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: could give. And the weight that I feel has lifted

502
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: is that I no longer have to be in contact

503
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: with my family for her benefit.

504
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel awesome.

505
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: But that's why I kind of physically needed to go

506
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: somewhere sure, because I just haven't been able to. I

507
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: haven't been able to one and so it was nice

508
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 3: to be able to just like actually go somewhere. But

509
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 3: I think because it was the new year, like I

510
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 3: just needed a hard reset of like getting back to

511
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: who I am, because that's the thing that will be

512
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 3: a big part of my year. This year in terms

513
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: of Uber lists and resolutions and stuff, is like figuring

514
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: out who I am because from the minute I got

515
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: to this town, I've been taking care of my grandma. Yeah,

516
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 3: so I don't know who I am in this town

517
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: outside of being a caretaker for her. So maybe I'll

518
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: make a friend, or maybe I'll like explore or like,

519
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just kind of feel like I

520
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 3: need to add. I added some things to my Uber

521
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: list that I needed to add that were very much

522
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: it sounds very like juvenile, but I definitely put some

523
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: things on there that were like go outside or like

524
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: find a restaurant you like in town. Like I have

525
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: not had the ability to explore what my actual life

526
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: is here, so I'm kind of excited to see see

527
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: what that looks like.

528
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: I am too. I'm too.

529
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: I'll just say that as your friend and knowing you personally,

530
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: I just I want this for you pretty badly.

531
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm glad it's.

532
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: A new year. Do you have any any resolutions. Do

533
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: you have anything that you're looking forward? I mean, it

534
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be as sad and complicated as the

535
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: journey I just took us on. But they any uber

536
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: listing things, any resolutions, anything you just want to focus on.

537
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't really know, actually, I mean

538
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: I kind of.

539
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, wouldn't it be great if I

540
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, I have all these like big ideas, But

541
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm like, I like

542
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: to try to make goals manageable. You know, they say

543
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: make goals, like you know, what is that like acronym

544
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: about goals where it's like time and specific and manageable

545
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. So at first I was like,

546
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: what if I just went vegan or so, you know,

547
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: like I just like some huge, huge life change.

548
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: And then I was like, I gotta start smaller than that.

549
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: And I think, like, I'll start by not eating fucking

550
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: cheese and crackers in my bed. Let's just not do

551
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: that for like a month, you know, like just like

552
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: the thing where I'm like, all right, let me just

553
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: try something little smaller for like a month, so I

554
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: might fucking eat cheese at two o'clock.

555
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: In the morning in my bed, Like look, knowing you

556
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: and me as I do with our array of cheeseboards sizes,

557
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 4: I would even say, take it a step easier and

558
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: just try like a meatless Monday. Try a meatless Monday first,

559
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: and then get into I won't eat cheese in bed,

560
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: cause that's promise.

561
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could keep right away.

562
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: See, that's the thing is that I'm like, I kind

563
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: of like it too much like the other thing. And

564
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I was like, what if I started, like, what if

565
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: January was like black coffee January, like where I don't

566
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: I don't drink half and half in the coffee for

567
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: an entire month? And I was like, I that the

568
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: sound of that, just saying it out loud already makes

569
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: me fucking miserable.

570
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: So it's a no, Yeah, you're setting yourself up for

571
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: failure because you are choosing the most extreme shit that

572
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: you don't actually want to do. Yes.

573
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: So I so I'm currently working on making these goals

574
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more manageable, less less horrible, and less

575
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: uh binding, I guess, so we'll see. I mean, I

576
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: got some ideas kicking around, but I'm just excited for

577
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: a new year. I just you know it's it's gonna

578
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: be a good one. I think that last year was

579
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: is really tough for you when it was extremely busy

580
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: for me, and I think we both need a fucking

581
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: reset and a relax and it's gonna.

582
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: Be grilli you.

583
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, New Year, Knew Us and to bring it in

584
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: like we always do. We've got a New Year, New

585
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: Me episode today, but we have a twist. I want

586
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: to tell them what the twist is.

587
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: Oh sure, So, as as you might have guessed, we

588
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: we have.

589
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: A theme this week, a recurring theme.

590
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: That we've done now for three years, and it's called

591
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: New Year, Knew Me. But the twist this year is

592
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: that this is a New Year, New Me episode all

593
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: about male makeovers.

594
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: And I cannot wait to dig in. So so our

595
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: thought process behind the mail makeover? Actually I shouldn't phrase

596
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: that as a statement because I don't remember what was

597
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: our thought process behind making it the mail makeover.

598
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: So, okay, if I recalled the first year of the

599
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: podcast that we did this, it was all about like

600
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: new face, who this or something like that.

601
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like that was the fly and uh

602
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: second Sea's right, right, right, it was all about like

603
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: body body trauma.

604
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: And then last year we did body swap movies where

605
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: somebody just woke up in a different person's body, and

606
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: so this year we were like, well, what could we

607
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: possibly do? And it's like, you know, we in movies.

608
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: There was just so many movies about women makeovers like

609
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: Gigi and you know, like I don't know every Audrey

610
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: Hepburn movie to have ever been made, and like, you know,

611
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: she's all that and all this stuff. Well, and then

612
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: so like we were like, well, what about guy makeover movies?

613
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: I feel like that, you know, is there a grand tradition?

614
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Let's explore it.

615
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: And I think we found two really interesting ones.

616
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: And I will say right now, first watch on your

617
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: film this week. I can't even wait.

618
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: Starting the new year off, right, because I do plan

619
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: this year on freaking you out as much as possible

620
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: with my choices.

621
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: This is a movie that freaked me out in a

622
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: completely different way than you have ever freaked me out.

623
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: And yeah, dare I say it's worse.

624
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Dare I say it's worse than Hereditarian Border combined?

625
00:31:49,720 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: Ah? Oh shit, Yes, I did it. You first episode

626
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 2: of the year, I did it.

627
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: God, you are absolutely like the Queen of the mind

628
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: fuck when it comes to this shit, like, oh, here's

629
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: a movie I first, I actually texted you I we

630
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: should like screen grab and post a text where I

631
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: was like, I'm sorry, am I watching the wrong.

632
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: Movie right now? For some reason, I thought it was.

633
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: A documentary or something I couldn't even really remember, and

634
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: I was like, am I watching? And then you were like, Nope,

635
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: that's the movie. You are absolutely watching the right movie.

636
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: That's the one you got.

637
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: You hate it on all cylinders, and I was like, oh,

638
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to talk about this.

639
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: When they get that text, I'm like, this is gonna

640
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: be real. It's gonna be good and real.

641
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going first this week, which means that we

642
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: are breezing through my shit to get to your.

643
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: Shit what we can.

644
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: But I will say yours is a film that I

645
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: have seen several times.

646
00:32:53,120 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hate it. I hate it. It's a

647
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: new feeling for me with this movie.

648
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: I never felt such anger at a film, at this

649
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 3: film before.

650
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I cannot wait to go into it. We

651
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: will certainly talk about our feelings.

652
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: So yeah.

653
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: My movie for the theme New Year Knew Me is

654
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: a film from nineteen eighty seven. It was written by

655
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Michael Swerdlick, directed by Steve Rash and it's called Can't

656
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Buy Me Love?

657
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: I want to read you read Me. Yeah, you pretend

658
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: you like me and we go out for just a

659
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: few weeks. Just going out with me is not going

660
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: to make you popular. Well, I have one thousand dollars,

661
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: it says it will.

662
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and get a one sentence synopsis

663
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: of this very eighties, very teen film out of the way.

664
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: A door hey teenager gets the most popular girl in

665
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: his high school out of a financial bind, and in exchange,

666
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: she is required to go on fake with him so

667
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: that everyone will think he's cool.

668
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 2: That's it. That is the movie.

669
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: And okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna also get this out

670
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: there now because I have to say it up top

671
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: or else it will infest the rest of the episode.

672
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, there was probably, for me,

673
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: not a better representation of the kind of teenager that

674
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be than Cindy Mancini. Okay, absolutely she was.

675
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: She's the female leader of this movie. She's played by

676
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: Amanda Peterson. Cindy Mancini is like the archetype. She's beautiful, thin,

677
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: blonde head cheerleader. She's dating a college guy. She drove

678
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: the classic eighties hotgirl car, which is a white Volkswagen

679
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: cabriolet convertible.

680
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: Yes, and that car, that car alone is trauma inducing.

681
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: That car full of teenyat that car full of popular

682
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: cheerleader t teenagers is like straight up PTSD moment for.

683
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Me one percent, Like people sitting on the edge of

684
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: this fucking Volkswagen convertible. I mean it's triggering. But Cindy

685
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: man Citi was it. She had that car, she had

686
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: her own phone line. She had a white day bed

687
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: and a giant sign with the word outrageous hanging over it.

688
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: That day bed another trauma point for me. I wanted

689
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: one so bad.

690
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: Me fucking too. My mom and dad were like, you

691
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: ain't getting a fuck a white day, but you're getting

692
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: sensible Broyhill furniture that you will have when you get married.

693
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, fuck this.

694
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: Here's a metal Sear's bed. We had a metal Sears

695
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: bed frame because my my grandparents were so furious that

696
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 3: they had to raise us. They're like, we already raised

697
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: their own children, now we have to We got rid

698
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: of all our kids furniture.

699
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: Now we have to raise you. You're getting a metal

700
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: Sears frame piece. Yeah, it was a white day bed

701
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: was the dream.

702
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: And then if you were even cooler, if you had

703
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: white wicker furniture.

704
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: Ugh, I mean she had a neon phone, I would

705
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: have passed away.

706
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I often recall that Cidy Mansani had a

707
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: see through phone, but in fact, I don't think. I

708
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: think I'm getting that confused with like sixteen candles or

709
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: something like.

710
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: But she definitely had her own phone line. And you know,

711
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Cidney Mansini.

712
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 1: In terms of style, she was like doing the whole

713
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: thing where she wore like very chic, oversized blazers to school,

714
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: which I, for some reason.

715
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 2: I just didn't think I could pull off.

716
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I told myself when

717
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: I was very young, if I wore oversized blazers to school,

718
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: I would look like a forty five year old woman.

719
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: Actually you look like a sub Yeah. Yeah.

720
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, like a beautiful, thin, like blonde chick wears one.

721
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: It's super chic, and I'm like, no, I just look

722
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: like someone's mom. So, as you can tell, I was

723
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of everything, Sidney Man, Sadie and honestly, like,

724
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: I'm no different than Ronald Miller, who was essentially the

725
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: star of this film Can't Buy Me Love, And he's

726
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: played by Patrick Dempsey. And I'm gonna tell you right now,

727
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: I've never seen one episode of Grey's Anatomy.

728
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: Ever, well, I will tell you that if you have

729
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: not seen have you Okay, you haven't seen an episode

730
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: of Gray's Anatomy, But in this movie we are getting

731
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: his original.

732
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: Nos yes, okay, So have you seen him.

733
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: Even if you haven't seen an episode, Like, have you

734
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: seen photos of him?

735
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

736
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Yes, because I have seen Sweet Home, Alabama about forty

737
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: five times. So you go like, and I get the

738
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: McDreamy thing. I definitely know he was nicknamed McDreamy. And

739
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: it's so funny because there's a lot of conversation that

740
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: came out after the Gray's Anatomy thing happened where people

741
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: would look at this movie and go like, oh my god,

742
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe his geek grew up to be a

743
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: big dreamy. But I'm I'm gonna tell you right now,

744
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: Ronald Miller as a character was like, honestly, even with

745
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: the original nose it was like a Hollywood version of

746
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: what they thought a geek was exactly because Okay, yes,

747
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Ronald Miller wore fucking berets and he liked science, and

748
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: he had a poker night with his geek friends, and

749
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: he did little dorky dances anytime he got excited about something.

750
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: But listen, Ronald Miller was not ugly or fat.

751
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

752
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: He had really nice toned arms actually, and he had

753
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: nice eyes and he had great hair. So in my mind,

754
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not a geek, that's at all. That's

755
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: Timothy Challime. If you ask me period, that's.

756
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: I want to read to it. That is just you

757
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: saying that's Timothy Challime.

758
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: It is because it's like, look at him, like I

759
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: just described him, Like, oh, that's like a current heart

760
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: throb that is wearing Yes, he is like a fashion

761
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: designer's muse. That's Ronald Miller basically in this film. But

762
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: in this film he's a fucking loser. And I'm like, okay,

763
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: So the setup of the movie is like this, So

764
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: Ronald is a dork at this high school in Arizona,

765
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: and he mows the lawns of like all the popular

766
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: kids at his school, and there's a beautiful luminous headshielder

767
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: named Cindy Mancini, like I said, and like most dorks,

768
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: Ronald lusts after her from afar until one day Cindy

769
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: goes to a party and she's wearing her divorced mom's

770
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: suede fringe skirt set and.

771
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: It is a fucking hit. It is.

772
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: It is such a fucking hit that she has to

773
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: lie and tell her friends that her college boyfriend bought

774
00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: it for her.

775
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: Like it's not her mom's, okay.

776
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: And of course, as as happens, some idiot jock at

777
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: the party spills shit all over it, and Cindy is

778
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: flipping the fuck out. She actually tries to go to

779
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: the store that her mom bought it at to return it,

780
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: and the manager's like, uh, are you fucking crazy? Just

781
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: buy a new one and all that costs one thousand

782
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: dollars now.

783
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: Also the wine, it was supposed to be a wine stain.

784
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: First of all, who's drinking wine at one of these parties?

785
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 3: What kind of fucking football bros drinking wine at these parties?

786
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: And also when you when she stands back and it's like,

787
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, an outfit. It looks like a like

788
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: a deep red blood splatter. Like it's not even like

789
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: a like a faint pink. It's like a deep red,

790
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: like peter through paint on her stain.

791
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: She was an Occupy Wall Street in that outfit.

792
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: Now, speaking of this outfit now, I don't care if

793
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: it came from Wilson's the Leather Experts or whatever, and

794
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: not some like shitty divorced mom's clothing boutique in the

795
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: mall or whatever.

796
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 2: But this should not this, this suit.

797
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: Set should not be a thousand dollars in the nineteen eighties, Like,

798
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean, even even in the eighties, that's too much

799
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: to pay for this fucking weird outfit. And I don't know,

800
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: maybe Cindy's mom was coked up when she bought it,

801
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: who knows, But like it's.

802
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: So prohibitively expensive that I'm like.

803
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Why would anybody buy this outfit for a thousand dollars?

804
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: A thousand dollars even adjusting for inflation, it's like seventy

805
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars.

806
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: No, it's not. I don't know what they actually but

807
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: like it's some astronomical number for a mini skirt fringed

808
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: leather like a jacket and a mini skirt, a shoulder

809
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: pad infused white suede. Everyone on the eighties was on coke.

810
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: You cannot convince me otherwise.

811
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's not even that cute at all, but

812
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: it's it's very expensive.

813
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: So listen.

814
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Cindy is bugging out because she's like, I don't have

815
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars to re buy this outfit that I

816
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: ruined at this party.

817
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: But thankfully, Ronald just happens to see.

818
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: The entire interaction go down, and then he offers to

819
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: pay for the outfit for Cindy.

820
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: But with the money that he earned mowing her lawn

821
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: and all the neighborhood lawns, all summer lawn right right.

822
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: So it's like this hard earned money that he is

823
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: now wanting to give to his crush now in exchange, though,

824
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: she has to pretend to like him for a month

825
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: in front of people at their high school, which is

826
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: such a weird.

827
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: He came up with that lightning quick like he runs

828
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: into the store. They cut to him, and he's like,

829
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: I'll give me this money, but you gotta pretend to

830
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: like me, And he had like the whole list of shit,

831
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: like you have to have lunch with me, you have

832
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: to do this, And I'm like, how long have you

833
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: been thinking about this, Ronald, you fucking maniac.

834
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is some very saved by the Bell ass

835
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: fucking plot twist things going on in this movie, because

836
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, like this just it seems

837
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: very flimsy. And then but this is like a typical

838
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: trope right of eighties teen stuff, is people buying popularity

839
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: from the rich kids. Because I don't know, I'm just like,

840
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: how does this exist outside of this decade? But cause

841
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: I guess the eighties were all about capitalism and we

842
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: loved those popular kids and their fancy ass clothes. So

843
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: he sets up this deal and she's reluctant at first,

844
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: but then agrees to eventually be purchased by a kid

845
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: from her high.

846
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: School and her skill set of just being popular.

847
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: Yes, and see this's like the next day they met

848
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: it school and she's immediate like, oh fuck, what have

849
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: I done? This guy is fucking disgusting, even though he's not.

850
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: He's a Timothy Chalamey prototype, as we just outlined, but

851
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: I guess in order to be around him for like

852
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: five fucking minutes, she takes him around the back of

853
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: the school, puts.

854
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: Some moose in his hair moose Lord.

855
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Lord, She rips the sleeves off of his button up

856
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: shirt and then takes his glasses off and will instant

857
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: geek to chic apparently.

858
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: I mean, this is something I need to discuss. And

859
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: your movie and my movie is when you're doing a

860
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 3: makeover movie, usually a makeover movie that has a woman

861
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: at the center or a girl at the center of it,

862
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: it's like one of those cartoons where somebody sits down

863
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: in the dentist chair and then like bugs Bunny stands

864
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 3: in front of him and you just see like sparks

865
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: and tools and smoke and fire and everything coming out.

866
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: Like a makeover movie that has a female at the

867
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: center of it is usually like, oh, we gotta do

868
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: a complete overhaul. We gotta fucking give this motherfucker some

869
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: plastic surgery.

870
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: We gotta fix these teeth, we gotta fix these eyes,

871
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: we gotta pluck this and shavee that.

872
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: For men, it's like I'm gonna rip the sleeves off

873
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: your shirt. Yes, brush your hair.

874
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 2: Yes. It's the laziest makeover ever.

875
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: And I literally cannot believe that he got as much

876
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: mileage out of this as he did in this movie,

877
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: because you're right, in every female makeover movie, it's like

878
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: she's got to take speech lessons, put a book on

879
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: top of her head, and make her walk across the

880
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: fucking room, like she's got to change her entire way

881
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: of being. And meanwhile, all a guy has to do

882
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: is just fucking go and get a different shirt.

883
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: It's so annoying.

884
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: Shirtless and pop that collar and you're done. Yeah, or

885
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: like sleeveless, sleeveless and pop the collar and you're done.

886
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: Take off those glasses. You're just a completely different person now,

887
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: Ronald and so so now he's got this hot look apparently,

888
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: and he's hanging with Cindy. People are noticing him finally,

889
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: and even Sippy gotta say she kind of starts hanging

890
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: out with him more and more, and she is noticing, Hey,

891
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: he's kind of sweet and he's kind of funny, and

892
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: he reads my poetry, which Cindy is very embarrassed of,

893
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: because guess what if you wrote poetry in an eighties

894
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: teen movie, you were a big fucking loser.

895
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: End of discussion, secret nerd territory poetry.

896
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: What are you nuts? What are you some weirdo.

897
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: This is something that I bump against to this day,

898
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: to the point where I'm eventually gonna have to write

899
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: an essay, even if it's just for myself, even if

900
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: I never publish it. I cannot handle when people try

901
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: to force feed us this narrative that traditionally beautiful people

902
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 3: are also thoughtful, sensitive artists. That is not as common

903
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: as our culture would have you believe. And I'm not

904
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: saying it never happens. I'm saying it happens about as

905
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: often as you will see a blue lobster, which is

906
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: maybe once in a fucking lifetime.

907
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: Look, you don't have to go further back than Hubble

908
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: from the way we were. It's like talk about a

909
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: fucking hot jock that can't write for shit like.

910
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: And it's because one experience impacts the other.

911
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: If you grew up traditionally hot or beautiful, you have

912
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: had a fundamentally different experience than someone else who has

913
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: had to struggle a little bit more in that area.

914
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that it impacts your worldview in a

915
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 3: way that will make me never believe you have anything

916
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: interesting to say in an artistic sense.

917
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, listen, somebody who was fourteen and

918
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: was afraid to wear a blazer because it made her

919
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: look like she was a middle aged woman needs art

920
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: and poetry desperately to get through life, Sydney Lancini does not.

921
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: Also, never forget that at this point, when you were

922
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 3: in thinking about your oversized blazer, you were all the

923
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: writing poetry in the dark with a feather pen at

924
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: a cafe. That's what a poet is, not Like I've

925
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: got three pieces of loose leaf paper from four years

926
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: ago when I had to write a poem for English class. Like,

927
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 3: you are not about that life until you're in the

928
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: dark in a cafe in Atlanta with a feather pen.

929
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: Exactly, or you're blasting jazz out of a window in

930
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: New York.

931
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 2: If you're not blasting Charles Mingus out of the speaker

932
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: pointed outwards and freaking out your whole fucking neighborhood, just

933
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: try to get the attention of a guy. You're not

934
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: about that life. You did not have an angel.

935
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: Notebook for your fucking weird poems. I don't want to

936
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 3: hear it say.

937
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.

938
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: About Ronald is that he actually, like Legit supports her

939
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: efforts to be a poet, and of course she's like,

940
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: you're the only dude that ever cared. So she's like,

941
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: she's surprisingly smitten with this arrangement. Suddenly. And here's the

942
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: thing about Cindy's friends. They start hanging out with Ronald

943
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: too because they see, oh he's cool now he hangs

944
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: out with Cindy Mancini and including.

945
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: Her two best girlfriends who are supposed to be in

946
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: high school. But they look and dress.

947
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: And act like adult women who are hanging out on

948
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: the Sunset Strip with like dkin and wasp or some

949
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: shit right, like a.

950
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: How fuck.

951
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: They were headband and the full face glitter says it all.

952
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: They look like do you remember in Decline of Western

953
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: Civilization Part two?

954
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: The Middle Years? That contest?

955
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: Like that ladies that were like get on the stage

956
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: and like be the hottest lady. Those are like two

957
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: women who would enter that contest. Her high school friends

958
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: and their names were Pat and Barb. If that is

959
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: not the name of a middle.

960
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: Aged fucking friend hanging out in front of the the

961
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: Seven Veils, I don't know what is.

962
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, And like the other thing this is

963
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: even more outrageous is one of Cindy's friends, is this

964
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: muscle jock who is played by Gerardo.

965
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: Fuck Rico Swave fame.

966
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: Ah this is and then this is an embarrassing admission

967
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: that I may have admitted before if I have, forgive me.

968
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: But when Girardo first dropped, I did not know that

969
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: he was one person with extensions.

970
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: I thought he was two people because in what part

971
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: of the video he has very long hair and part

972
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: of the video has very short hair like he does

973
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: in this movie. And I'm like, Girardo is two people?

974
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: How cool? Let me tell you why?

975
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: Because I know this because I I watched so much MTV.

976
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: It's like unspeakable as a child.

977
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: So in the original Rico suave, that's all in Spanish,

978
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: like he has short hair. But then they made a

979
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: Spanglish version I guess where he sang half of the

980
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: song in Spanish and half in English, and he had

981
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: a totally different look. Right. You could have easily been like,

982
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: why are these two different guys saying the same song?

983
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely thought it was two different people for way longer

984
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: than I care to admit, and forgot that Girarda was

985
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 3: in this movie.

986
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and listen, there's a scene where Cindy's.

987
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: Friends are learning how to cook in their homet class,

988
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: and Girardo is wearing an apron with no shirt on underneath.

989
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: He's either my man is either no shirt or crop top.

990
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: He's like, you will see these fucking abs if it's

991
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: the last thing I do.

992
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh listen. I know that they went to high school

993
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: in Tucson where it's like one hundred and twelve degrees

994
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: on the rigs.

995
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: But are you you have to wear a shirt to

996
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: high school? Right?

997
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Like that's that's against the rules if you don't, right.

998
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 3: I think those rules came into place in the eighties

999
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: because of shit like this, where they're like, sir, you

1000
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: have to wear a shirt, Well, show me the rule

1001
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: on the books. Shit, we gotta make a rules. And

1002
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: this motherfucker will put a shirt on.

1003
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: And the home eck where there's hot oil and pan

1004
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 2: like they're cooking, they're actively cooking. It's meanwhile, that blonde

1005
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: guy who's like the consummate teenager even though he's been

1006
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: fifty years old since he started acting, Eric Bruce Gotner.

1007
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 3: I want to say, yeah, Big John, he's hilarious, but

1008
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: he's like fucking eating raw pancake mix and like this

1009
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: homeck class is a nightmare.

1010
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: It's a mess.

1011
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: It's a total fucking mess. And listen, there's a lot

1012
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: of other great cameos in this movie too, like Amy

1013
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: Dolan's who's one of Sindy's friends, Max Perlich, one of

1014
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: Ronald's geeky buddies, and Seth Green, who young Seth Green,

1015
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: who plays Ronald's sneaky little brother.

1016
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: And I swear to God, there's this.

1017
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: Like running joke in the movie where that big John guy,

1018
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: the pancake batter eating Jock, is at a party and

1019
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: he farts out of a window and it's right in

1020
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: Seth Green's face as he's like spying in the bushes,

1021
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: and the fart is so poked that he falls over.

1022
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: And I swear to God. As a kid, I rewound

1023
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: that shit like fifty times in a row.

1024
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: Guess what did it? As an adult too, I just

1025
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: watched it tho. I was like, favorite part of this movie.

1026
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: Happened twice and I lost it both times.

1027
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: Seth Green is getting crop dusted in this movie like

1028
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: no one's business.

1029
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: It's so funny to me in a primary role.

1030
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: Oh good, yeah, so as you can imagine, Okay, Cindy's

1031
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: really into Ronald now, but Ronald fucks it up, of course,

1032
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: by reminding her, Hey, it's just an arrangement, and per

1033
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: the terms of this arrangement, I have to break up

1034
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: with you in front of the entire school. And of course,

1035
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: because he's a nerd, he takes it too fucking fart

1036
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: and basically humiliates her and she runs off. So at

1037
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: the same time, Ronald, who is sleeveless with no glasses

1038
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,959
Speaker 1: and now wears Bolo ties all the time. I don't

1039
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: know what happened there. He just suddenly figured out how

1040
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: to wear Bolo ties. He suddenly now this party guy,

1041
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: and everybody wants to fucking hang with him, despite the

1042
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: fact that this entire makeover was created in the bushes. Yeah,

1043
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: and they're in front of their school in like two

1044
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: fucking seconds.

1045
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: So now his plan work.

1046
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: Though his plan worked and without the influence of Cindy,

1047
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: And here's where we realize that her Bush's makeover was

1048
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 3: actually crucial because on his own, he's disgusting.

1049
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like the Sunset Strip.

1050
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: Girls are now fighting to date him, which is insane,

1051
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: and you know, Cindy's kind of being like, hey, remember me, Like,

1052
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: but now he's too cool to hang with her, Like,

1053
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: she fucking created a monster in that two seconds, right

1054
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: in the bushes. And so what ends up happening is

1055
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: that there's a New Year's Eve party, Cindy gets wasted.

1056
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: She finally reveals to everybody that Ronald actually paid her

1057
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: to go out with him, and poof, he's a geek

1058
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: again and he's back to square one. I mean, I

1059
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: will not give away the ending, but you definitely know

1060
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: the ending.

1061
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: Come on.

1062
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, Ronald's little brother keeps getting

1063
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: carpet bombed by these fucking jock farts and everyone lives

1064
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: happily ever after.

1065
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: I guess he's.

1066
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: Ignored his best friends for months. Yeah, like he's just

1067
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: totally turned into a fucking monster.

1068
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like, but somehow it works out for him.

1069
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not giving it away, but I'm giving

1070
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: it away. Come on, so I really need to like.

1071
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 3: This is something that I think when I was saying

1072
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 3: earlier that I didn't like this movie anymore, even though

1073
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 3: I've seen it countless times. Is one thing that is

1074
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: crystal clear in this film and several others. But his

1075
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: makeover did not remove his ability to be a complete misogynist.

1076
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: Oh sure, of course, yes, he got a physical makeover,

1077
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: but he treats women and the way he talked about

1078
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: women and treated women, I was like, this is fucking disgusting.

1079
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean this is like we see this

1080
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: now so often. He's he's basically like a tech bro,

1081
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: some guy that like you know, got rich and famous,

1082
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: cleaned himself up, but he just can't. He can't like

1083
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: clean himself up enough to be a fucking decent person.

1084
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, I hate you, Ronald, Yeah, don't

1085
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: deserve any chances. I hate you. Yeah.

1086
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: And it's actually shocking because there's this moment where one

1087
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: of the Sunset strip girls has him into like a

1088
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: car and she does this whole like seduction thing where

1089
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: she's like, reach out and touch somebody like that fucking

1090
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: roal eighties shit, and he's just like, he just devolves

1091
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: into this fucking like man baby, he's just.

1092
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: Like boobs, you know.

1093
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: And so it's like at the same time, I'm like, well, no,

1094
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: he's just a fucking He's just a fucking guy, right,

1095
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: He's right, He's just simply purchased popularity and he's not learning.

1096
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: Any lessons at all.

1097
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: So that New Year's Eve party scene, though, is fantastic,

1098
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: and it has one of my absolute favorite moments from

1099
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: this film, which is after he at the beginning of

1100
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: the party, he like shows up with this date and

1101
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: Iris I think her name is, and they bowed in

1102
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 3: the bathroom and she's like all over him, and then

1103
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: here comes Cydey Mancini and she's like, you're all a

1104
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: bunch of suckers, Like he said that they would make

1105
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: him popular and it did because you're a bunch of lemmings.

1106
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: Peace.

1107
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: And then he goes back to his date and she

1108
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: just covers the side of her face and says, I

1109
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: don't know you and keeps walking.

1110
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, you literally just fucked him in

1111
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: the bathroom. That is a baller move to be like,

1112
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't know you on a toy on a toilet,

1113
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: for God's sake, which.

1114
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever wanted to have sex that bad.

1115
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm never gonna bone on a toilet, sorry, fellas,

1116
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: ain't happening. No, it's just too gross.

1117
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: Like that's today in not not good. I'm gonna try

1118
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: it at some point. Twenty twenty three Baby twenty three.

1119
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: I don't know you, we just function. You know, we

1120
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: didn't bite on the John on the fucking John, well

1121
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: on the John. Listen. I I'm with you.

1122
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: Like this movie kind of barely holds up.

1123
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: Not really.

1124
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, you know, to me, for the theme,

1125
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: it's perfect, right, because it's like it's a very it's

1126
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: a male makeover, despite the fact that it's very lazy.

1127
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: But I think also just proves our point about male

1128
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: makeover movies, which is that, like, it doesn't take much

1129
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: to make them completely lovable and hot, and in the

1130
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: gender reverse, it's like a whole fucking bag of chips, right.

1131
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: So exactly.

1132
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: I if it's this theme perfectly, I'm so glad you

1133
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 3: picked it. I will give it ten more years before

1134
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: society comes for this film.

1135
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: Ten more years where people are like, wait, I can't

1136
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: believe this shit. Yeah.

1137
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think people even now are like, wait

1138
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: a minute, a man bought a lady.

1139
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: That's fucked up, right When a man bas a lady?

1140
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: Oh shit?

1141
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: Well, I think that only leaves one thing to do

1142
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: for this episode.

1143
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, because talk about your fuck good movie.

1144
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: We gotta, we gotta, oh my god, my movie is

1145
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: kind of a recent one. It was released in twenty eleven,

1146
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 3: and we know that Millie was in a fu state from.

1147
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety two until twenty twenty, twenty twenty, maybe twenty

1148
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: twenty one, so she did not see this released in

1149
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: twenty eleven.

1150
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 3: The screenplay is by Dan Folgoman. It was directed by

1151
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: Glen Fakara and John rickwa It's crazy, stupid love.

1152
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: You're sitting there with a Supercuts haircut and you're wearing

1153
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: a forty four and you should be wearing a forty

1154
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: two regular.

1155
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: I tried to do a one sentence in opsis for

1156
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: this movie, and here's what I came up with. And

1157
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 3: tell me, tell me if this is okay, because I

1158
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: think if it's the bill, a man learns that his

1159
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: wife wants a divorce and all hell breaks loose.

1160
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: Perfecto kid.

1161
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: This movie is so much. There was so much going

1162
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 3: on in this movie. There are love triangles, love quadrangles.

1163
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: There's a thirteen year old creep who's absolutely gonna turn

1164
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: out to be a serial killer. Oh God, Ryan Gosling

1165
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: and Emma Stone doing the move from Dirty Dancing and

1166
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: a male makeover. But this movie is a lot. It's

1167
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: a lot. So so right off the bat, it stars

1168
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: Steve Carrell, Julian Moore, Ryan Gosling, Emma Stone, and a

1169
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: host of other people.

1170
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 3: Kevin Bacon makes an appearance. But this is the central

1171
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: tenet of this movie is Steve Carell finds out cal

1172
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 3: is his character name, finds out that his wife, Emily,

1173
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: wants a divorce, and all hell breaks absolutely loose in

1174
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: his life.

1175
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so this was this movie came out after a

1176
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: fourty year old version yep. Right, so Steve Carrell was

1177
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: kind of prime for this character this, Like, I mean,

1178
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: he calls himself a cook, so I'm just gonna call

1179
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: him a cook. He's a cook in this movie. And

1180
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, so he's kind of in that mode already

1181
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: where he is, like he didn't have to change out

1182
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: of his fucking dorky New Balance sneakers. He's basically that

1183
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: guy he's at the beginning of this film, right, He's

1184
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: just this married schlub and beautiful. Julianne Moore's like I've

1185
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: had it with him. He's his shoes are too gross,

1186
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: Like what.

1187
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: He's wearned those New Balance four h sevens and I

1188
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 3: can't look at them anymore.

1189
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: And that is kind of what it's like.

1190
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: It's like, she's like, we got married very young, and

1191
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: I kind of accidentally slept with someone in my office

1192
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: who happens to be Kevin Bacon, and I just she

1193
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 3: thinks she's having a midlife crisis, and she has this

1194
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 3: really kind of funny scene where she's like, what does

1195
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: the midlife crisis even look like for women? I don't know,

1196
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: but that's kind of the premise. And he moves out

1197
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 3: and gets an apartment and they have these two little

1198
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: kids or two school age kids, I'll say one of

1199
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: them is in love. Robbie is in love with their

1200
01:02:54,600 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 3: babysitter and is going way too hard trying.

1201
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 2: To get the seventeen year.

1202
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: Old girl to love him way too hard, does not

1203
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: take no for an answer. And I think it's supposed

1204
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 3: to be cute, but it absolutely is terrifying.

1205
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's another movie that came to mind when

1206
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: this shit popped off, which was bone shilling, to say

1207
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: the least, because his character is introduced masturbating basically, let's

1208
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: get serious.

1209
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 2: Which which it hid.

1210
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: That whole scene is disturbing enough, but then what he

1211
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: says to the babysitter immediately after, because she busts him

1212
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: basically in the in the act of him underneath his sheets,

1213
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: and then he just says, oh, well, at least I

1214
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: was thinking about you, and I always thinking about you,

1215
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: and I always think about you when i'm I'm like,

1216
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like is this actually happening right now?

1217
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: Like this is so fucked up. It is so fucked

1218
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: that kid comes into the movie on a fucked up

1219
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: trajack yes, and it is disturbing. His character is disturbing.

1220
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: And there's a part of me that was like, look,

1221
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing Italian hands because this is so I'm like,

1222
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: this is so fun. I have so much to fucking say.

1223
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: Like part of me was like, is this is he trying?

1224
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: Are they trying to set this.

1225
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: Up like he's the kid from Love Actually or something,

1226
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: you know how, like that little kid in Love Actually

1227
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: is like I am obsessed with a scroll at my

1228
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,479
Speaker 1: school and I'm like.

1229
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: Is this this character?

1230
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: Is this guy is trying to be the precocious, cute

1231
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: Love Actually boy, except he's totally missing the mark, like

1232
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: he's unhinged.

1233
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: And if they tried, they failed, because at least in

1234
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 3: Love Actually that was an age appropriate love situation.

1235
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: Yes, he was in love with a kid his own age.

1236
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: Where is this freak? Comes out the gate like I'm

1237
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: jerking it to you upstairs while you're babysitting for me,

1238
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: and I do it all the time.

1239
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: This girl, this babysitter, is supposed to be seventeen years old. Okay,

1240
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: she looks like she's in her mid twenties, though I

1241
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: don't know why they're acting like this woman is seventeen,

1242
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: which makes this whole scenario with this little kid even creepier.

1243
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: Completely and again, like it's supposed to be cute, it

1244
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 3: is not cute. We need to stop having little kids.

1245
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: Be in love with adults in any stretch of the imagination.

1246
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: It is not cute. It is always disturbing to me.

1247
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so fucking creepy, and he is

1248
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: just a straight creep. But I will say there are

1249
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: like eighteen storylines in this movie, and part of the

1250
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: reason I picked it is because of the storyline with

1251
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 3: Steve Carell as cal So cal and Jacob, who is

1252
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: the Ryan Goslin character. Cal goes to this bar after

1253
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: he finds out he's getting divorced, and he's just sitting

1254
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: at this bar total sad sack telling everyone with an earshot,

1255
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: my wife is leaving me.

1256
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: She had an affair, can you believe it?

1257
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: Like just for days, just sitting at this bar and

1258
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: just like telling his sob story.

1259
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: And Jacob finally comes up to him and is like.

1260
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: I can't take it anymore, Like I could either like

1261
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 3: euthanize you or help you. I'm gonna help you. And

1262
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 3: Ryan Gosling. The reason I picked this movie is because

1263
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: I think Ryan Gosling is so funny as this character,

1264
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: because he's kind of poking fun at I think what

1265
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: people think he was like before he has like married

1266
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 3: with kids and stuff, Like he's definitely a handsome guy

1267
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: in the cutsuit, like he can pull that off, but

1268
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: he's a total dork. Like he's very funny and weird.

1269
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 3: And I feel like this role did double duty of like, yes,

1270
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 3: he's that guy, but he's also this other guy. And

1271
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: the reason he even says that he's gonna help Calous

1272
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 3: because he's like, maybe you remind me of someone. So

1273
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: there's a hint. It doesn't it does not explore in

1274
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 3: this film at all. There's a hint that he has

1275
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: had a male makeover of his own. Or that he

1276
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 3: has reinvented himself and at some point in his life,

1277
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 3: this character has.

1278
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling as an as a hunk. He's not He's

1279
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: not for me, I don't, but in terms of this character,

1280
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: like him embodying this character, I was just like, he's

1281
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: too attractive and therefore he cannot also be funny and geeky,

1282
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: like I just.

1283
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: Am like the god back to the poetry writing Sindy

1284
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: Man sating.

1285
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 3: It goes back to the poetry, but yet here I

1286
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: hear it go contradicting myself immediately, because I do think

1287
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: that as an actor, my favorite Ryan Gosling roles are

1288
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 3: the ones where he's funny, like nice, like the nice guys.

1289
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 3: He's hilarious in that movie, sure, and he's not trying

1290
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: to be like a buff cool like he's just funny, yes,

1291
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: but like because he's also attractive, you're like, oh yeah.

1292
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean.

1293
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: It was very This was very hard for me watching

1294
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: this film because I'm like, I get what he's trying

1295
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: to do. I get what why he becomes this foil

1296
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: for col right, because it's like Cal is a fucking

1297
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: sad sack and he needs this like hot young guy

1298
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: to teach him how to be a man basically, right,

1299
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: And that's the This is the male makeover. This is

1300
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: why we picked it for the theme. But I was

1301
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: also like, what do I think about this Ryan Gosling character,

1302
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: Because at some point he doesn't become the foil anymore.

1303
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: He's like a fully fleshed out character with different feelings

1304
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: and like a little character turn. So I'm just like, Wow,

1305
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,879
Speaker 1: now I have to see him as like a full person.

1306
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: And that's the trick of the movie. Yes, And that's

1307
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: why I chose.

1308
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 3: It, because I'm like, oh my god, there's two male makeovers,

1309
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: because Jacob.

1310
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: Also has a makeover, and his makeover is that he gets.

1311
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: More in touch with who he actually is without this

1312
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: artifice of the pickup lines and the nagging and the

1313
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: fucking suits and the fucking shit.

1314
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,480
Speaker 2: Like he has his own makeover.

1315
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 1: Yes, he has a share from Clueless makeover of the soul, right.

1316
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: Makeover of the soul? He does he does. I think

1317
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: it's interesting.

1318
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting too because cal he's not just

1319
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 3: giving him a physical makeover. Even though I will say

1320
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: the shopping scene is very funny, I do laugh when

1321
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: I see the shopping scene.

1322
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, Oh, the old century city mall

1323
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: been there a million times?

1324
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, it just cracks me up. But I

1325
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 3: think that what's very interesting to me about this film

1326
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: is they push it a little bit further than most

1327
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 3: male makeovers are willing to go. So a lot of

1328
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 3: mail makeovers stop at the physical. But in this film,

1329
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: Jacob is trying to teach Cal how to be like

1330
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: a modern ladies man, and he is completely resistant to

1331
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 3: the idea. He does not want to do it, he

1332
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 3: can't do it. He loves his wife, he wants see

1333
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 3: back with his wife. But then he slips into being

1334
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 3: this kind of ladies man and it does not go

1335
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 3: well for him, I will say, but he learns how

1336
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 3: to do it in a way that they're trying to

1337
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: talk about how or I think my perception of this

1338
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 3: film is like kind of looking at the ways that

1339
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: these two things go hand in hand, Like this bar

1340
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: that I would never go into with these guys that

1341
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: I would never talk to, Like it goes hand in

1342
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 3: hand with the clothes they wear, the things that they do,

1343
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: and so kind of trying to teach Cal how to

1344
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 3: and really the only thing wrong with Cal in this

1345
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: movie is he's wearing clothes that don't fit, like he

1346
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: just needs to wear clothes that fit.

1347
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of it.

1348
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: Well and I okay, So there's so many different things

1349
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: I'm going through my mind when I'm watching all these sins,

1350
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: because I was, like, the first thing was that I

1351
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: started thinking about my.

1352
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 2: Dad the transitional shoe lord well and like and in

1353
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 2: the event.

1354
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: That, what if, Like like, for example, if my parents

1355
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: got divorced and then my dad started hanging out with

1356
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: a guy like Jacob, what would that be like for me?

1357
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: And I would join a convent, Like I would move

1358
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: to Switzerland and be like Reber car from Black Narcissus.

1359
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: I just would be like, I'm living in solitude. I

1360
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: don't want to know anybody from my former life because

1361
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: my dad is now palating around with this guy who

1362
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, is like a fucking ladies man at this

1363
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: terrible bar, like he's he goes to the same bar

1364
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: every night, awful. And it's not even like chairs or something.

1365
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: It's like this shitty it's like the w Hotel bar

1366
01:11:52,280 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. It's like some cornball an uninviting place. Good.

1367
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 2: I'm just imagining, like if your mom and dad got divorced,

1368
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 2: your dad turns into this dude.

1369
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a record. That is a reckoning, that

1370
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 3: is a gross reckoning. But that's where the movie goes

1371
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 3: for me. It's like he goes to this place where

1372
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: he realizes, like, this is not me.

1373
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: It's gross. I don't want to be this dude. So

1374
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 2: he kind of goes down.

1375
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: The Ronald Miller road a little bit where you're like,

1376
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: oh shit, you made a monster.

1377
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1378
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Jacob's having his own makeover and turning into a kinder,

1379
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 3: nicer person who's in love yeah, and allowing himself to

1380
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: feel love and give love. And then Cal's like, wait,

1381
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: I'm a disgusting monster that I don't recognize myself anymore.

1382
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 3: I can definitely buy better shoes, but I don't have

1383
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: to be this dude.

1384
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: Well and on top of that, so you've got this

1385
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: Emma Stone character, right, and she's like it's funny because

1386
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the movie, Jacob actually hits on

1387
01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: her and she's like out with her friend. I guess

1388
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: she's like aspiring lawyer. She's in law school or something,

1389
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: and she's out with like one of her law school friends,

1390
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: and he like hits on her. At the bar and

1391
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: she's just like, ah, this fucking cornball and leaves right.

1392
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 2: But then later on.

1393
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: In the film they get back together and she's kind

1394
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: of the person that like that melts away this facade.

1395
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: Because she's not buying it.

1396
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but and actually, you know, I think I think

1397
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: that Emma Stone is probably my favorite character in this film.

1398
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: I think she's super cute and charming and like she's

1399
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: this is like pre La La Land.

1400
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe in a.

1401
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:46,520
Speaker 1: In a weird universe, these two movies would be related somehow,

1402
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: like the La La Land couple actually met at the

1403
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: w Hotel bar and.

1404
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 3: Then they had this fever dream of this movie before

1405
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 3: they had the fever dream of Lala Land.

1406
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: It could happen. I can see it. I can see it.

1407
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 3: I think that there is something likable about this version

1408
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 3: of the male Makeover because even though there I'm trying

1409
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 3: to be syscinctire and it's not gonna work, but I'm

1410
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 3: gonna try. Even though this is a male makeover that

1411
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 3: is intent on having one monster teach someone else how

1412
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 3: to be a monster, there is something interesting about the

1413
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: lengths that this makeover goes in a life ruining and

1414
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 3: life affirming way for each of them.

1415
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: The thing that's that makes your movie different than my

1416
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: movie is that there seems to be some like inward

1417
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: exploration of things, right, because ultimately, this cal character, he

1418
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: has internalized that the reason why his wife has cheated

1419
01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: on him is because he is a schlump, Like he

1420
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: wears too big of clothing and he's just dud and

1421
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: he just kind of rolls over and he's just not

1422
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: passionate or interesting.

1423
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: Right, He's not being interested in life in general, and that.

1424
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: Is definitely not what's happening in Camp Buy Me Love.

1425
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like this fucking kid is just like

1426
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: I just want to be popular at any cost. I

1427
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about anything.

1428
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: I will shit, put shit on my best friend's house.

1429
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1430
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's he will sell out his lifelong friends

1431
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: in order to get to get this popularity that he wants.

1432
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: But at least Steve Carrell is kind of like he's

1433
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: actually depressed as fuck, and he's trying to be like,

1434
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: how do I get my wife back? Maybe if I

1435
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: turn into a different man, then I'll have the confidence

1436
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: to maybe like win her back, or like at least

1437
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: be in a better headspace than what I'm in now,

1438
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: which is that I'm depressed that my wife left.

1439
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: Me and cheated on me.

1440
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: Right, But it's that thing where, yeah, I mean, they're

1441
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: kind of they're kind of exchanging lives because it's like

1442
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,839
Speaker 1: cal becomes a little bit of a stud and then

1443
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: Jacob becomes a little bit more of like a love book,

1444
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: which is you know, which is also like, here's the

1445
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: Jacob character also learning about his self. And there's that

1446
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 1: whole scene, which I have to say, part of why

1447
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: I like I'm a Stone is because she seems very natural.

1448
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: She seems kind of like a girl that you would know,

1449
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: which of course is like one of her better qualities

1450
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: as an actress. But like they're kind of in bed together,

1451
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: like just hanging out because she's supposed to have gone

1452
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 1: to his house for a one night stand, and they

1453
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: end up just talking all night, and then he has

1454
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: this moment where he kind of he asked her, he

1455
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: asked her, ask me something.

1456
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 2: Personal about myself.

1457
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: Did I say that, ask me something personal about Yeah,

1458
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: he asked her, ask me something personal because I want

1459
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,560
Speaker 1: to talk about myself. And there's this moment where you're like, oh,

1460
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: maybe people never ask him about him.

1461
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because he's a hot guy.

1462
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, not that I so I don't feel sorry for

1463
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: hot guys now, But I'm just saying, in that moment,

1464
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: for that character, you do feel like, oh shit, Yeah,

1465
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this is what you sign up

1466
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: for when you're just like a dude that plows through

1467
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: women and doesn't you know, doesn't form bonds and relationships

1468
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: like you just no one gives a fuck about you, dude.

1469
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 3: Right, And yeah, And I think that that scene is

1470
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 3: very tender and very cute, and I like that too, And.

1471
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: I think that.

1472
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: I guess what I really want to say about this

1473
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 3: movie that the reason I picked it. What's interesting to

1474
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 3: me about it also is that it's a middle aged

1475
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,799
Speaker 3: man getting a makeover, So it's not a high school

1476
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 3: guy or a younger guy who's like doing it so

1477
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 3: that he can get the chick.

1478
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: Like.

1479
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: This is a middle aged man going through a fucking

1480
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 3: crisis that is foisted upon him and tries to use

1481
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 3: the makeover is a way to cure his depression and

1482
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't work that way, and he.

1483
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: Figures that out eventually, but he can't use like for

1484
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 2: a while he's using the distraction of the makeover to

1485
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 2: avoid his feelings, but that does not work for very long.

1486
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: And I like seeing that kind of aspect of the makeover,

1487
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 3: the mail makeover.

1488
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what ends up being so crazy

1489
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: about the film is that, like it's kind of been

1490
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: a love actually kind of way where everyone's related to

1491
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: each other.

1492
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: Don't give it away.

1493
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's probably nobody who hasn't seen it yet,

1494
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, these these everyone ends up being somewhat connected, connected.

1495
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: Is what I meant. Okay, not given it away? How

1496
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:49,839
Speaker 2: Why would I give.

1497
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: A spoiler for crazy Stupid Love from twenty eleven?

1498
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: I would never do that. Oh good, Yeah, I don't

1499
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 2: even know what else say about this movie. Listen.

1500
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: The one thing that I will say that was another

1501
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: disturbing part of the film is the Marissa Tomey character. Yeah,

1502
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: where she goes zero one hundred real quick when it

1503
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: comes to Cal, because basically she meets Cal. Her character

1504
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: meets Cal one night at the bar. He has already

1505
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: transitioned to the ladies man, and he's sort of like

1506
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: hanging out with her, and they go home together, and

1507
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: then at a certain point she meets back up with

1508
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: him and he has not called her because she's a

1509
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: one night stand, right, and he's that kind of guy now,

1510
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't care about women. He just plows through them

1511
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: without any feelings. And she goes ape shit in a

1512
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: very severe kind of way. And that I was like, huh,

1513
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: would this happen? I don't know, I don't know. It

1514
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: seems a little extreme her reaction.

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Speaker 2: Don't think so. I think. I think this is a

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01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: good point to remember that this film was written by

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01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: a man. Yes, especially during that scene and in her

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01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,520
Speaker 2: whole character development. I'm like, this was certain by a man.

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01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, she fucking justice for Marissa Toadmay's

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01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: character in this movie, because I was like, she just

1521
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,480
Speaker 1: got played like she was basically like I'm a crazy

1522
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: lady who can't have a one night stand and like

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01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: and I just was like, wow, like, yeah, it's kind

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01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: of mean, kind of dirty.

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01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 2: They did her dirty. And again written by a dude,

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01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: written by a dude.

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01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: Sure, well, yeah, there's a lot of who is the

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01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: guy who? Oh my god, he plays a serial killer

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01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: in pretty much every movie I've ever seen except for

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01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 1: this one. Oh John Carroll Lynch, Yes, he was in Zodiac, right,

1531
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,520
Speaker 1: he would that's like this guy from Zodiac.

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01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why I think that John Carroll Lynch playing

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01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 2: a middle aged dad when usually he's just a stone

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01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: cold killer. Yeah.

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01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean I was actually really happy to see him

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01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: be funny because I guess I just hadn't seen him,

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01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: you know, personally, I don't. I think I hadn't seen

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01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: enough movies of his where I thought, oh, he could

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01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: be funny too. It was great, And then I have

1540
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: to say, Josh Grobin.

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01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: There's something about him that I just fundamentally do not like,

1542
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: based on nothing, based on absolutely nothing. I do not

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01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: find him funny or charming.

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01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: He has a great voice, and I do not understand

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01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 3: this foray into comedic acting.

1546
01:21:55,640 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 2: Everybody's doing it. Everybody's doing it. I don't get it.

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01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I personally, I'm gonna say this again. You

1549
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: make me watch movies I would never watch. And there's

1550
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: a there is a benefit and a awesomeness to that.

1551
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Like you just challenged the fuck out of me. I

1552
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: would have never seen this movie, Like honestly, like I

1553
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: thought it was something else.

1554
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: What, I don't know what I thought it was.

1555
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: I was like, is this a Chanting Tatum romance or

1556
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: a documentary.

1557
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't figure.

1558
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: Like when you said the title when we were coming

1559
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: up with this theme, I was like, what movie is that?

1560
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: I think that's a documentary And no it wasn't at all.

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01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: No, if it is a documentary, we're fucking doomed. No,

1562
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: it is not a documentary at all. And I'm sorry

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01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 2: I made you watch it.

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01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 1: It's perfect for the theme, Like, it's absolutely perfect for

1565
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: the theme because.

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01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 2: It's got levels for the theme. It does have levels.

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01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 2: I just I guess.

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01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: I just was like, this was such an unexpected pick.

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01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: I had never seen it. It was like a very

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01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: broad rom com. There were parts of it that were

1571
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: very broad, you know, humor, but there's a lot of

1572
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,799
Speaker 1: like product placement. It's like the one part where fucking

1573
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 1: John Carroll Lynch comes to the bar and he's like, Hi,

1574
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: I was just shopping at Macy's. So I was like,

1575
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: this is like mac and me levels fucking brand placement.

1576
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: Here, what the fuck McDonald's commercial in the middle of

1577
01:23:51,360 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: the movie. Hi, I was just shopping it. Here's my

1578
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: Macy's mag on the bar. Face face out, face it

1579
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 2: out logo. Oh good but.

1580
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: It is like it was like there were moments, and

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01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: obviously I think a lot of it had to do

1582
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: with just the people in the film, because they're good actor.

1583
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 2: Steve Carrell is a great actor, Like yeah.

1584
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: And you know, he brought a little bit more to

1585
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,440
Speaker 1: this character than I I probably.

1586
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: Would have expected this character to be.

1587
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: Like, this character could have easily just been Will Ferrell

1588
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: could have just been a complete fucking, you know, a

1589
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: farce type of thing. But he has He's got some

1590
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,480
Speaker 1: fucking chaps that Steve Carrell.

1591
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: He brought and he this is pre his Silver Fox

1592
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 3: era too, so yeah, post forty old Virgin pre like

1593
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 3: we didn't know he had it in him to look

1594
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 3: like that hot.

1595
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean he wasn't even like when he

1596
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: came out from behind the curtain in his new look,

1597
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: he still didn't looked his age, didn't He wasn't wearing

1598
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: the like, you know, shark skin fucking young guy suits

1599
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: like he looked age appropriate.

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01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: I appreciated that.

1601
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: And he wasn't in head to toe ed hardy, no,

1602
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 3: which is often the other way that guys' age go.

1603
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, You're absolutely right.

1604
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 2: Oh I'm so sorry I made you watch it. But

1605
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 2: if it's the.

1606
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 1: Theme, it absolutely does.

1607
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean I.

1608
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 3: Feel like where we can go, Like the male makeover

1609
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 3: movie is just rife with disappointment. It's just set up

1610
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: for disappointment.

1611
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean my movie is basically trash.

1612
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, at the end of the day,

1613
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it says about gender roles that

1614
01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: like male makeovers are just so fucked easily done and

1615
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: they're just so lackadaisical and it doesn't take much to

1616
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: make a guy attractive to women. I guess that's the

1617
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: message in both these films in a weird way. And

1618
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of like that's a little sad to me.

1619
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 3: And you know, just the overall message of straight people

1620
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 3: are not okay.

1621
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: Certainly not okay, especially in my film. For God's sake,

1622
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: what is wrong with you?

1623
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 2: Young straits, especially trains are not okay.

1624
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 1: Well, I hope everybody has a really good year. I mean,

1625
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: it's it's the first episode of the new year for us.

1626
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: We're very excited to be back. I'm excited, Danielle to

1627
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: be sitting with you again. You can share talking movies

1628
01:26:54,640 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: high and Low, U, short and Long, make make over

1629
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: and make under. I love watching movies with you and

1630
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: talking about them with you on this podcast.

1631
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 3: I do as well, and I can't wait for next

1632
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 3: week's movies.

1633
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't even say the name of

1634
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 1: the theme. I could barely read it. You want me

1635
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: to tell them what the movies are?

1636
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell them what the movies are?

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01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: Okay, So next week's episode, we've got Harold and Maud

1638
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy one and Alie fear Eats the Soul

1639
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy four. Who A couple of good ones,

1640
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: A couple of fucking good ones.

1641
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: Now listen.

1642
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,400
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1643
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,320
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1644
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,479
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1645
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:55,600
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1646
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,040
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1647
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,960
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1648
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,000
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1649
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,400
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1651
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,120
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1655
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1656
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 3: Well until next week. I can't wait, cannot wait. You're

1657
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 3: not going to get the theme, guys, I mean I

1658
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 3: will be truly shocked if anyone guesses.

1659
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: But try. I want you to try.

1660
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: Danielle, always a fucking pleasure doing this podcast with you,

1661
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 1: and we will see you all next week.

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01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: Bye.

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01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 3: This has been an Exactly Right production produced by Casey O'Brien,

1664
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 3: mixed by Edson Choi. Our theme song is by Tom Bryfogel.

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01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 3: Artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart,

1666
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,800
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1668
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