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Speaker 4: Can you tell us the process of somebody wants to

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Speaker 4: become a sports agent? Right? What how do you become

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Speaker 4: a sports agent? Do you have to go to law school?

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Speaker 4: You have to have a degree, you have to pass

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Speaker 4: a test, like what do you have to do?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: What are you studying?

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Speaker 6: So the NFL requires that you have a post secondary degree.

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Speaker 6: The NBA, I think, is just an undergrad In baseball,

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Speaker 6: I think you just have to have a client, if

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Speaker 6: p A and go do your research on that process.

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Speaker 6: So what the NFL requires Do you have a post

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Speaker 6: secondary degree? They don't really say what that post secondary

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Speaker 6: at a early age. Number talked to a lot of

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Speaker 3: The NFL is a.

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Speaker 6: Standard you know, there's nineteen NFL players, there's standardized contracts,

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Speaker 6: The requirement for the NFL is undergrad and then post

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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, that's just the qualifications in order

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Speaker 4: So what's on what's in the exam?

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Speaker 6: Like what understanding the contracts, like Brandon saying, Randham was

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Speaker 3: So you have to understand the in betweens of those things.

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Speaker 3: You're supposed to be a fiducial.

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Speaker 6: So that's what they try to jam into this one test.

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Speaker 7: So even like before Brandon had said that information, it

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Speaker 6: So I had been reading the CBA since I told

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Speaker 6: term jargon, I guess. Yeah, the Collective Bargain Agreement. I

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Speaker 4: Like you were reading Collective Bargaining Agreement at fourteen.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I was literally yeah, I mean literally like mom, Mom,

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Speaker 4: But the average person that may not be reading the

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Speaker 6: Ready for that test because I remember writing a like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 4: So say a kid in college or even out of

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Speaker 4: a four year degree. You have a four year degree

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Speaker 6: Got to go to grad school too, go to grad school. Yes,

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Speaker 6: you got to post secondary degree.

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Speaker 3: So could that person have a degree in like sports management? Yes,

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Speaker 3: sports management. So my degree is a master's of sports Management.

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Speaker 3: But we took business classes and addition with that. And

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Speaker 3: it has to do you have a degree in anything

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Speaker 3: that the way that the rules.

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Speaker 6: Are set up right now, then if you have a

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Speaker 6: post secondary degree in geography and anything, you can sit

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Speaker 6: They don't say post secondary game business. They don't say law,

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Speaker 6: and it'so an NBA. It says post second.

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Speaker 4: So where do you get study material? Like how do

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Speaker 4: you do they have like Caplin online study? Like how

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Speaker 6: So at the time, there was some guys out there

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Speaker 6: that were that's what their business were. They were helping

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Speaker 6: for the exams because they're not necessarily they're pretty complex terms.

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Speaker 6: But I don't know if they're still out there now,

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Speaker 6: but the collective Bargain agreement you can google and TIPEDDF

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Speaker 6: that comes right off the NFLPA website. It's not the

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Speaker 6: There's like fun stuff to read, like salaries and have

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Speaker 6: like like poison pill, which is something that Deon Sanders

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Speaker 6: That was Cowboys at that time.

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Speaker 6: Was actually one of the first black agents out there

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, so okay, so now we know

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Speaker 4: how to become an agent. Yes, right, Technically speaking, as

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Speaker 4: far as getting the test, it's not really that difficult.

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Speaker 4: but it's not hard to You just gotta take the test.

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Speaker 6: You have to take the test. But it's like it was.

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Speaker 6: I hadn't been stunning for a while, but I had.

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Speaker 3: Took the series six and sixty three.

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Speaker 6: It was harder than that, and it was harder than

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Speaker 6: I thought the seven was gonna be when I was

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Speaker 6: People failed, Like there's some lawyers that fail all the time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you had a background in finance though as well. Right,

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Speaker 7: so this is what happened. I got I went to

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Speaker 7: Hampton University.

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Speaker 6: Graduate in two thousand and nine, ended up doing a

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Speaker 6: two year program at Georgetown the NFL had a lockout.

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Speaker 6: They weren't certifying any new agents. So I had a

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Speaker 6: decent amount of student loans and I went to kind

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Speaker 6: in and said, seventy eight percent of NFL players are

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Speaker 3: So are the marketing deals. Traditionally for first rounders.

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Speaker 6: It could be for a first round it could be

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Speaker 6: for a receiver or a running back the top. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 6: because they're gonna get a trading card deal. They're gonna

442
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Speaker 6: maybe do some appearances, depend upon what school they go to.

443
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Speaker 6: They may have some autograph signing the things that needsure.

444
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Speaker 6: So you're advancing them the money on the on that,

445
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Speaker 6: but that's the only thing basically you get back from that,

446
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Speaker 6: and then basically once you know, once they get drafted,

447
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Speaker 6: they pay you back.

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Speaker 3: So it takes you some time to kind of get

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Speaker 3: out of that hole.

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Speaker 4: So so all right, let me let's just because this

451
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Speaker 4: is interesting. So what's the average course for let's say

452
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Speaker 4: first second round draft pick?

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Speaker 6: First second round draft pick is probably gonna cost you

454
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Speaker 6: in upwards of about one hundred, one hundred and thirty

455
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Speaker 6: thousand dollars to forty thousand dollars maybe per player, per

456
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Speaker 6: player who it is, but it all depends on how

457
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Speaker 6: you do your model. So there are agencies out there

458
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Speaker 6: now that don'tly charge one percent and they have a

459
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Speaker 6: certain they pay pay I'm only capping it at fifty grand,

460
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Speaker 6: but they're also not making as much money on the contract.

461
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Speaker 6: But they're also what they are is they're they're I'm

462
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Speaker 6: not gonna ask them. They're a big agency that gets

463
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Speaker 6: seven eight guys every year, so they're just trying to

464
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Speaker 6: monopolize and kind of kill the young guy or they're

465
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Speaker 6: not young guy.

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Speaker 3: But the smaller agency that don't.

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Speaker 6: Necessarily have the same bankroll, if that makes a bank

468
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Speaker 6: take a little bit, so for sure.

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Speaker 3: So but the thing about it is that you're not.

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Speaker 6: But I try to stressed to the players, like when

471
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Speaker 6: that guy signs eight of you, he's going to do

472
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Speaker 6: the same thing next year, next year, next year.

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Speaker 3: Think about that.

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Speaker 6: Just in three years he's got thirty two clients. And

475
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Speaker 6: I'm sure they have a staff to be able to

476
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Speaker 6: service to you. But you're not going to be serviced

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Speaker 6: by a guy that recruited you.

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Speaker 3: All.

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Speaker 4: Right, So all right, So one hundred and fifty thousand

494
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Speaker 4: for let's say a top player right from January to February.

495
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Speaker 4: That's your that's your responsibility to pay for it. Right now,

496
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Speaker 4: you're hoping that he gets drafted highly. Right. The agents

497
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Speaker 4: cut is.

498
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Speaker 6: Three percent pond if at this point the NFLPA has

499
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Speaker 6: done something where they put standardized one and a half

500
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Speaker 6: percent for every single player. Now you can negotiate up

501
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Speaker 6: to three percent, but some guys go to one percent.

502
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Speaker 6: Some guys charge zero percent on the first deal because

503
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Speaker 6: they know they're not going to make any money and

504
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Speaker 6: just do a loan on the guy. And then so

505
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Speaker 6: like it's everybody structures it differently. There's no standardized agent.

506
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Speaker 6: This player costs X, this player costs be. And in

507
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Speaker 6: addition to that, if a player is projected to go

508
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Speaker 6: tenth and he goes fortieth, you know you're looking You're

509
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Speaker 6: looking at the player like, man, he losing a lot

510
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Speaker 6: of money.

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Speaker 3: That agent's like, man, I will never go between my money.

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Speaker 7: So when when y'all in the green room during the

513
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Speaker 7: you get invited to the draft, you're most likely going

514
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Speaker 7: to be a first round pick.

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Speaker 6: So I am in year six, this is my first

516
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Speaker 6: year in the green room. But there are agents that

517
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Speaker 6: have never really I was talking to a guy yesterday

518
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Speaker 6: who's he's been in the business eighteen years. He's never

519
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Speaker 6: had a guy drafted a higher than fiftieth. I've had

520
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Speaker 6: guys drafted fifty fifth and thirty eighth this past year,

521
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Speaker 6: so I mean I'm still ahead of the game. But yeah,

522
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Speaker 6: that was my first year in the green room, and

523
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Speaker 6: I had a client that was projected to go top

524
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Speaker 6: fifteen and he ended up falling to thirty eight. I mean,

525
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Speaker 6: he fell into a great position in a great situation.

526
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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's going to take us a little bit

527
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Speaker 6: of time to get the money back if this investment.

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Speaker 3: Like, what are the emotions as you sit in that

529
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Speaker 3: green room, because I remember it is I'm getting uncomfortable

530
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Speaker 3: right now said about you.

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Speaker 6: It is the most uncomfortable because I think, like we

532
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Speaker 6: were talking about before, like as an agent, people think

533
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Speaker 6: you're all powerful.

534
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Speaker 3: You have these relationships.

535
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Speaker 6: Yeah, these might be my friends, but I can't Like,

536
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Speaker 6: I know one of the gms from a team in

537
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Speaker 6: the NFC North, for say, and I'm like, Yo, what's

538
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Speaker 6: going on?

539
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Speaker 3: What's going on?

540
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Speaker 4: My guy?

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Speaker 6: You know, he's sliding. He said, man, I heard you

542
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Speaker 6: know he's going to go by by this time he

543
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Speaker 6: and that did happened. So like I'm texting people, but

544
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Speaker 6: they don't know what other teams are doing because it's

545
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Speaker 6: the thirty two teams that have thirty two different draft boards.

546
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Speaker 6: So I have talked to a number of teams that

547
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Speaker 6: had him projected to go here, but things happened and

548
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Speaker 6: the trickle down effects. So what end up happening this

549
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Speaker 6: year was Cleveland Ferrell who end up going.

550
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Speaker 3: Number four to the Oakland Raiders. That was it had

551
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Speaker 3: a tumble effect on everyone projected in the top five.

552
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Speaker 6: He was projected to go top twenty twenty five, so

553
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Speaker 6: that ended up having a tumble down effect, and then

554
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Speaker 6: they had a couple off into Linement that didn't go

555
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Speaker 6: until later. We really thought that Cincinnati, Atlanta, we thought

556
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Speaker 6: that those were our hotspots once those things are passing.

557
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Speaker 6: I was like, man, man, I know we talked to

558
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Speaker 6: these teams in the twenties. Let's see what they talking about.

559
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Speaker 6: Literally texting people from them, but it's like they're not

560
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Speaker 6: going to give you any information because it's like they

561
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Speaker 6: don't want you to go to another team, say hey, Listen,

562
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Speaker 6: I know this team is going to do that, like

563
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Speaker 6: the justice how the business works. So as an agent,

564
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Speaker 6: you are literally your most powerless during the agent process.

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you this. Let's get back to

566
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Speaker 4: the tol money of it, right, So how do you

567
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Speaker 4: recoup that one hundred and fifty thousand thats you just spent.

568
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Speaker 3: Over the course of the career of this player?

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Speaker 6: So my client signed a four year, four year, seven

570
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Speaker 6: million dollars and over the course of that, I'll make

571
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Speaker 6: your money back and then you'll be broken.

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Speaker 4: Are you Are you adding all?

573
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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: So let's say you have a one percent fee that

575
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Speaker 4: you're charging the client, right, are you adding something additional

576
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Speaker 4: internet or he's just taking it out of a one

577
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Speaker 4: percent that's just giving it advance.

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Speaker 6: If you're if you're gonna if you're gonna give one percent,

579
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Speaker 6: if you're gonna charge one percent, you're not gonna give

580
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Speaker 6: a major upfront out pouring depending upon who the player is.

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Speaker 6: And there's also, like I said, one hundred and fifty

582
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Speaker 6: thousand dollars for players, it's based on players that are

583
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Speaker 6: projected to go top twenty twenty one because twenty one

584
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Speaker 6: is when the fully guaranteed contracts. After that, everyone's contract

585
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Speaker 6: is a little bit deater down to unguaranteed. So he

586
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Speaker 6: signed a four year, seven million dollars deal with four

587
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Speaker 6: and a half million dollars guaranteed. So we'll make our

588
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Speaker 6: money back over the next couple of years of him

589
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Speaker 6: getting paid. When he gets paid, we get paid.

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you this.

591
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Speaker 3: It's a gambling, it's a gamble.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this too, because so this happens

593
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Speaker 4: Reggie Bush.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you pay one hundred.

595
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Speaker 4: And fifty thousand dollars for a kid the day before

596
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Speaker 4: the draft, he changes his mind.

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Speaker 6: That other agent or whoever hires him has to end

598
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Speaker 6: up paying you your money back legally, that's how it works. Yes,

599
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Speaker 6: so we signed In addition to the SRAH, you sign

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Speaker 6: a sign he signed essay in a representation agreement, you

601
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Speaker 6: also sign a dendums that entitle you to that money

602
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Speaker 6: if you're fired. So the only way I would ever

603
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Speaker 6: get this money back because it's an investment, right like

604
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Speaker 6: the guy Layo Collins. Layo Collins was supposed to be

605
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Speaker 6: projected to go top ten. He ended up going undrafted,

606
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Speaker 6: so literally there's nothing his agent can do as far

607
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Speaker 6: as returning getting money back. He just has to play

608
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Speaker 6: the game until it's a point where he didn't get

609
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Speaker 6: his second contract, and then you make your money from there.

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Speaker 6: So as an agent, you're kind of just sitting there

611
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Speaker 6: waiting for your guy to get drafted and based on

612
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Speaker 6: where they get drafted as a draft slot, and that's

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Speaker 6: where you determine how much money they make.

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Speaker 7: You said you said something about after twenty one then

615
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Speaker 7: not guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: That was only an impression that first round picks are guaranteed.

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Speaker 6: No, the first twenty one draft picks have fully guaranteed contracts,

618
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Speaker 6: all for skill, cap and injury. So what that means

619
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Speaker 6: is that they cut you for skill, like you're just

620
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Speaker 6: not good enough. If they cut you because you're you know,

621
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Speaker 6: you're injured or whatever the kiss would be, or if

622
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Speaker 6: they cut you because your skill, they have your cap casualty.

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Speaker 6: So as a result of hey, we need some cap

624
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Speaker 6: room to pay you know, Colin Kaepernick, right, of course

625
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Speaker 6: not but yeah, shout out the cup.

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Speaker 4: So all right, let me so let's let's let's keep

627
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Speaker 4: it real. How dirty is it? How dirty?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 4: Could we see these movies and we see we had

630
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Speaker 4: these scandals people getting paid off? Can we talk about

631
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Speaker 4: the dirty side of it. Y, I don't. I don't.

632
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Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not one to name any names. I'm

633
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Speaker 3: not one.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna talk to you guys, just like I'm presenting

635
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Speaker 6: to a young man who may ask me this question.

636
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Speaker 6: At the end of the day. This is a very

637
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Speaker 6: dirty game. And it's a situation where you're recruiting a

638
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Speaker 6: kid and you're trying to sign them for his first

639
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Speaker 6: contract to his first contract.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times you.

641
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Speaker 6: Have to go back and re recruit your clients because

642
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Speaker 6: you have guys that are sharks that have been out

643
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Speaker 6: of their business or been in the business for a while.

644
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Speaker 6: They've done great contracts for these guys, so hey, let

645
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Speaker 6: me go pick a guy.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: It's the point where a lot of guys, what what

648
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Speaker 6: agents are doing, or agents have done for years, is

649
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Speaker 6: they pay current some of their current clients.

650
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Speaker 3: To go recruit for you recruit. Hey, talk to your teammate.

651
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Speaker 3: If you're unhapy with his agent, I'll give you something

652
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Speaker 3: on the side.

653
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Speaker 6: So it's it's dirty in the capacity, but the idea

654
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Speaker 6: of it is that it's agents fighting against agents. It's

655
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Speaker 6: they're just trying to give out the better deal. Because

656
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Speaker 6: you gotta take con sideration. If you've signed a guy

657
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Speaker 6: on an SRA for you know, when you first sawn

658
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Speaker 6: him and you put up that upfront investment, may try

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Speaker 6: to go on a second country. He already got the money.

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Speaker 6: You may not necessarily have to give him any money

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Speaker 4: And so like plays out of college, right that aren't

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Speaker 6: So what now is probably popular in the agent businesses

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Speaker 6: investing a certain amount of money, that's once they're signing there, yes,

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Speaker 6: But now what they're doing is that they use financial

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Speaker 6: advisors or runners in the capacity to pay these guys.

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Speaker 6: And it's just like, hey, I'll give you a loan,

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Speaker 6: you know, gonna give this guy a loan or yeah,

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Speaker 6: pay this guy. Say say you're a top player, and

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Speaker 6: somebody say, hey, I'm gonn give him fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 6: and then once he returns, once he you know, comes

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Speaker 3: That kind of thing.

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Speaker 6: So it's because those guys aren't regulated by the NFL fund,

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Speaker 6: by the NFL PA.

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Speaker 3: We're regulated.

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Speaker 6: So if we do get caught doing something like that,

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Speaker 6: could be all types of things depending upon what state.

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Speaker 6: Alabama will throw you in jail. Like it's could be the.

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Speaker 7: Real and that is Alabama for the past five years

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Speaker 3: In a lot of ways. For sure, Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 3: and but I mean it's there.

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Speaker 6: But you got to also take siteration that some guys

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Speaker 3: Saban or this guy or that guy. Hey, you know

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Speaker 6: But I mean that's good business per se because you

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Speaker 6: And so it's like my mom asks me, Yes, She's like, well,

752
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Speaker 6: they're out here recruiting your guys or the second contract guys,

753
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Speaker 6: or why don't you go out that. That's really just

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Speaker 6: not my I would shign a guy on a second

755
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Speaker 6: contract if it comes from referral. But I'm not about

756
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Speaker 6: to pay. If I got to pay you in order

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Speaker 6: to sign with me, I got to pay you to

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Speaker 6: keep you.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not.

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Speaker 6: I'm not in the business of paying players. I feel

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Speaker 6: like I add My goal is to add value to

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Speaker 6: these players' lives and to help them and help them

763
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Speaker 6: be successful men, and them to realize the NFL's a business.

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Speaker 6: Some things your money can't buy exactly, and the NFL

765
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Speaker 6: is a business, and these players are products. And once

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Speaker 6: that product becomes effective, you are thrown away and shifted

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Speaker 6: to the side. And these agents that are calling you

768
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Speaker 6: right now, a lot of times you can't even get

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Speaker 6: touch with them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm glad you said that because the NFL, you know,

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Speaker 7: the average cont the average career is very sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So my thing, my question to you is do you

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Speaker 7: have aspirations of going to Major League Baseball or no?

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Speaker 6: I have a player's hard Like I was saying, I

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Speaker 6: wanted to be an NFL player. So this is my

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Speaker 6: best job to live vicerecy to my clients, and it's

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Speaker 6: a situation where I want to see like it's bigger

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Speaker 6: than me, right, Like I want to see young black

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Speaker 6: men do well. I want to see guys not fall

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Speaker 6: into the same pitfalls that other guys falling. I wanted

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Speaker 6: to see guys that are successful, if years old, that

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Speaker 6: developed relationships while they were in the NFL and now

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Speaker 6: they're using them to become.

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Speaker 3: Big, successful businesses.

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Speaker 6: That's what I try to preach to my guys is

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Speaker 6: about you know, I told people what I want to

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Speaker 6: do at fourteen. The earlier you know what you want

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Speaker 6: to do, especially playing in the NFL, you have the

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Speaker 6: best options to go and be successful and go. You know,

791
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Speaker 6: if you're say you played for the Buffalo Bills or

792
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Speaker 6: New York Giants, whatever the case may be, and you

793
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Speaker 6: want to work in finance or you want to do this.

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Speaker 3: There's not too many people that aren't going to call

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Speaker 3: you back. At least have a meeting with you.

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Speaker 6: Develop those relationships, build up that resume that says something

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Speaker 6: other than punt, block or tackle, and you know you

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Speaker 6: can be a successful transition. I mean the NFL, I

799
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Speaker 6: can tell you all the time. It's a head start

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Speaker 6: in life. It's not for long NFL for long.

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Speaker 4: All right, Okay, so now we're going to the next segment.

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Speaker 4: But before we do, I just had one one quick question.

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Speaker 4: So right now, you first you mention your first client

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Speaker 4: in the bank. But right now you're a seasoned agent

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Speaker 4: where you're meeting clients every single you're getting new players

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Speaker 4: every single year. How do you recruit players?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: Like what's your progress?

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Speaker 6: So now I have relationship ships with scouts. So like

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Speaker 6: there's the structure. So everyone knows the NFL structure from

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Speaker 6: the coaching side, right, so you know you got your

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Speaker 6: head coach, you got your assistant coaches, receiver position coaches.

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Speaker 6: You also have that in the scouting community. You have

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Speaker 6: the general manager, you have the assistant GM, you have

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Speaker 6: director of college scouting. You have scouts that go and

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Speaker 6: scour the things. What now I've been able to do

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Speaker 6: is develop relationship with those scouts and they say, hey, listen.

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Speaker 6: They'll go over there area with me and say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 6: this kid is good. He's gonna go here, he's projected here.

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Speaker 6: You know, you should go after this guy. And that's

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Speaker 6: how I kind of determine who I'm gonna go after.

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Speaker 4: But how do you reach a player?

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Speaker 3: Social media is key to success for a lot of guys.

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Speaker 3: So you sliding DM.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean sliding dms. I mean reverse look ups.

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Speaker 6: I mean I've done things like you may have a

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Speaker 6: mother on your bio right at the end, and.

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Speaker 3: It's like, hey, I can google his mom. LinkedIn is

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Speaker 3: always great.

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Speaker 6: I can send an email to his mom, do things

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Speaker 6: like that. But I mean there's different ways to ask.

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Speaker 4: These are things that people don't think about, right. It's

833
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Speaker 4: like it sounds simple, like okay, but how do you

834
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Speaker 4: It's like, how do you get in touch with a player?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you think outside the box, and you got to

836
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Speaker 6: realize most emails. It's the same thing with the bank

837
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Speaker 6: thing and telling people I want to be an agent.

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Speaker 6: I got way more knows than I got. Yes, But

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Speaker 6: when I was able to get a meeting, I was like,

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Speaker 6: all right, cool. At least I felt good about the meeting.

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Speaker 4: Do you show up at schools?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not one to go and bombard you and

843
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Speaker 6: things of that. That's just not who I am. I

844
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Speaker 6: don't have that like New York mentality. For the lack

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Speaker 6: of better words, No, no, I'm not really that god

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Speaker 6: that's gonna be like yo, clean, let me holler at

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Speaker 6: you for a second. I need to do it some

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Speaker 6: type of casual and I want to have some type

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Speaker 6: of relationship with someone next to you in order to

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Speaker 6: build that relationship, like maybe I'm made an uncle or

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Speaker 6: do something like that. And those are typically how my

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Speaker 6: clients have come through referrals or and for a situation

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Speaker 6: where I've known someone that's connected to him, or if

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Speaker 6: it's like one of my scouts can be like yo,

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Speaker 6: like my guy, my guy send me from a team

856
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Speaker 6: was like you need to get on Cody Ford. And

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Speaker 6: Cody Ford was a client of mine this year. We

858
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Speaker 6: end up getting drafted secon around he was like, man,

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Speaker 6: he's gonna be a really good player, and throughout the

860
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Speaker 6: draft like like I was telling you this is a

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Speaker 6: very difficult time to watch your client fall through the draft.

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Speaker 6: But like even afterward, I was getting text from scouts like,

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Speaker 6: don't worry, he fell into a great spot. You know,

864
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Speaker 6: he's gonna have a great career and it's just gonna

865
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Speaker 6: take a little bit of time, longer time to make

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Speaker 6: your money back as an agent and as a as

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Speaker 6: a you know, an independent or a smaller agency. I mean,

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Speaker 6: we're a mid tized firm, but like it's a little

869
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Speaker 6: bit different on your bottom line than it is that

870
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Speaker 6: a CIA or some of the major agencies. When they

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Speaker 6: get a guy that fell those around it, you know,

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Speaker 6: they already had six other draft picks they got drafted

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Speaker 6: in the first round value. I mean, you're not as yeah, no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: for sure, and but they signed six, seven, eight guys

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Speaker 6: every year.

876
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: So it's so all right, cool, So now we're going

877
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 4: to go into the next level as far as taking

878
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: the business to the next level, scaling and different challenges

879
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: that you face as as an African American agent. All right,

880
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 4: so you're an agent, right, we went through the process

881
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: of what it takes to be an agent. We went

882
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 4: through the process of you know, being an agent, but

883
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 4: there's challenges in the agent business, like well businesses, right,

884
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: So what are some of the challenges that you face

885
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 4: as a young person as an African American male? Right?

886
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 4: Even though the sport is driven by African American players

887
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: and we've made strides in the agent business, just still

888
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: the majority of the agents are still white, right, Yeah,

889
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 4: So it's still a flip, like even on the ownership side,

890
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: on the management side, all of that stuff, where the

891
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: players are black, but the other side of the table

892
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: is majority.

893
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 7: So they have they put the Rooney rule in place

894
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 7: for the owners, but there's nothing in place for the agencies.

895
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 6: Ori general managers, right, yeah. So that's yeah, So no,

896
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 6: not at all. So yeah, that's it's it's there's some

897
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 6: difficulties as.

898
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Far as being a black agent.

899
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 6: I mean, like we were talking earlier, Rich Paul was

900
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: on the cover of Sports Illustrated, so Lebron in his

901
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 6: effect him being like, you know, the greatest player or

902
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 6: you know, one of the greatest players in basketball and

903
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 6: kind of having.

904
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: His team around him being all black, I think.

905
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 6: That's helping us and changing the way people are thinking,

906
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 6: because like, man, those black guys can do it, why

907
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 6: can't you know, give give a guy a shot, and

908
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 6: agents have done pretty well.

909
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: And there's some black guys that have done really.

910
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 6: Well, like Eugene Parker was one of the most well

911
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 6: respected agents. He recently a couple of years ago he passed.

912
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 6: But I mean there's been trailblazers in that capacity. But

913
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 6: there are still players that want to sign with white

914
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 6: agents because they see white general managers and they see

915
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 6: white scouts or white like. So the scouting community we

916
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 6: talked about earlier is I would say a good portion white,

917
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 6: So I mean they understand that, so they think white

918
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 6: guys like to do business white guys. But I mean

919
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 6: we've we've we have some agents that are doing pretty well.

920
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: Like I said, I've had some couple of draft picks.

921
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 6: Got a guy who's coming up on a major second contract,

922
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 6: h James Bradberry for the Panther.

923
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: So like I mean, we're we're gonna be okay.

924
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 6: But it's gonna take some time, and it's gonna take

925
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 6: more and more guys that are of stature to hire.

926
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: A black agent and be in front of that back

927
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying.

928
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I want to talk about that Lebron effect.

929
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: If we could just for a minute. So Lebron, that's

930
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: one of the things, even with you know, Rich Paul

931
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 4: and Mavacarta and all of this stuff that he does

932
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 4: with his team, how has that I mean, you talked

933
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: about it briefly, but do you feel the effect of

934
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: like seeing a ridgeport I anybody's not familiar. Rich Paul

935
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: is Lebron's agent. He's also Anthony Davis's agent.

936
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's on a couple of Sports Illustrated today because

937
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 7: they know that this is his summer, this is the

938
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 7: most important.

939
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 4: He's on the cover. He's on the cover Sports Illustrated

940
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 4: because he's one of the most influential sports agents period

941
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 4: and definitely in basketball. So to see a young young

942
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 4: black man, I think he's like in his early thirties.

943
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: Do you feel that help you as far as when

944
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: you go talk to clients.

945
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know, Lebron is well respected, so

946
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 6: I think that you know, him having a black agent

947
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 6: helps him in the NBA side, for sure. The NFL side,

948
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 6: I think there are some black agents that have done

949
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 6: pretty well for themselves. But I don't necessarily if everybody

950
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 6: has a different criteria, So you know, you just have

951
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 6: to find the guys that are willing to accept the

952
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 6: fact that you're black or you know, and build off

953
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 6: your resume. And I think that my clients see me

954
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 6: as a young black guy. It's thirty two, it's still

955
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 6: a hip and we still you know hip please God,

956
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 6: it needless to say. It still understands the hip hop

957
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 6: generation understands like I'm still we still listen to the

958
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 6: same music.

959
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: You know.

960
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 6: I'm you know, trying to get out of this rat

961
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 6: race of going after girl after girl, trying to you know,

962
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 6: take my think to the next level, you know, and

963
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 6: and it's a mentorship in that capacity, but I'm still

964
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 6: out there, like I still understand what's going on with them.

965
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, we can relate on a more personal.

966
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 6: Level, but a lot of times the biggest thing is like, hey,

967
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 6: what's your you know, criteria.

968
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: What's what criteria do you have set for the type

969
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: of agent that you want to sign?

970
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 7: You know, Lebron is obviously an icon. I think he's

971
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 7: one of the greatest businessmens that we've ever seen. I

972
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 7: think he is the great the greatest. I like magic

973
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 7: in him and so I don't know that.

974
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 6: So I heard something about Lebron if he does a deal.

975
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 6: He won't do a deal without taking equity in the company.

976
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 6: And I think we all know how important equity.

977
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: In coming athlete. Yeah for sure.

978
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 7: So like obviously he plays in the NBA, so it's

979
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 7: a lot more easy. It's easier to market him because

980
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 7: you can see him, for sure. NFL tougher. You know

981
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 7: it's tough, but do you see a player out there

982
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 7: now that potentially could have that type of Lebron effect

983
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 7: where it's like, you know what, I'm gonna give the

984
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 7: fifteen percent to the people I came up with, whether

985
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 7: is it like a Cam Newton or maybe Antonio Brown

986
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 7: or somebody that.

987
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 6: So there's a there's a agent that assigned two black

988
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: quarterbacks back or over just over the black to back years.

989
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 6: Deshaun Watson and Dwayne Haskins both have black quarterbacks. So

990
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 6: it's gonna have to be from a quarterbacks side.

991
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: We have to get to the quarterbacks because they have

992
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 3: the biggest contract and they have the most FaceTime.

993
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 4: So what about barb receiver. It's like Odell Beckham.

994
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 6: Odell Beckham has he's not black, So yeah, I mean, yeah,

995
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 6: everybody has his agent. Yeah, they just that Jarvis Landry

996
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 6: had a black agent, so it has a black agent.

997
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 6: So I mean there's a number of guys that definitely

998
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 6: have Like, there are more guys out there that have

999
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 6: black agents.

1000
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 4: Well, like from from we're talking about this off camera

1001
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: where the NFL is different from the NBA, because you know,

1002
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 4: the average NBA player, right like, even if you don't

1003
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: know sports, you have nothing to do with sports at all.

1004
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: Odds are unless they're like a point called like cal Lowry. Yeah,

1005
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: we're not gonna talk about what happened.

1006
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: He got black, right. I just knew he I just

1007
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: knew he just drank. The thing about it.

1008
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: I knew it was hard to shoot behind the backboard,

1009
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: so I was just like, there's no who else could

1010
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 6: do it.

1011
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: But Kyle Lari shot the Philly Toronto.

1012
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 4: Now, I mean I think it's to Toronto.

1013
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: But they clapped when Katie got hurt. I don't like that.

1014
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, you know it's always gonna be bad Apple.

1015
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a bunch of them. I heard them

1016
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: claps here in New York. It was not fortunate. It

1017
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 3: was fortunate.

1018
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: We've seen Drake almost crying. So took it home Drake album.

1019
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: All right, So NBA players easy to spot right, because

1020
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 4: they're tall, they're lanky, they look like they're different from

1021
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: every other person. NFL players not so much. Right, So

1022
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 4: you have of the NFL, nobody knows who they are. Yes,

1023
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: they could just walk down Tomes Square and not get

1024
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 4: recognized at all. That kind of leads to a couple

1025
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 4: of problems right A. Marketing. It's hard to market the

1026
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: NFL play because you don't know who he is unless

1027
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: he's Tom Brady or Odell back On or something like that.

1028
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: I think also b it leads to a lot of

1029
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 4: unnecessary spending. Like you said, like a lot of these

1030
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 4: guys you see in the clubs and they order one

1031
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: hundred bottles because now they're trying to draw attention on themselves.

1032
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: For sure.

1033
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: Where the NBA players they might do it, they might not,

1034
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: but they don't they seven feet tall. They already know

1035
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: who they are, absolutely sure. And then also just from

1036
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: a failed standpoint of like doing you see especially whide receivers,

1037
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: you see him doing like a lot of antics, right,

1038
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: I feel like that's kind of like they need to

1039
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: have attention, right, Okay, So what's your thoughts on that?

1040
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 3: So I think one in three are tied. It together

1041
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: when it comes to receivers.

1042
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 6: So I have a cornerback who's probably one of the

1043
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 6: best cornerbacks in the NFL. I would say his name

1044
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 6: is James Bradberry plays for the Panthers recruit I mean

1045
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 6: he literally guarded all the top guys. I mean, you

1046
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 6: got to take the seneration. He three times ago or

1047
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 6: six times between six times he turned Mike, Mike Evans,

1048
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 6: Julio Jones, Mike Thomas and does really good jobs all

1049
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 6: of them. And everyone talks about this game again Tulio

1050
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 6: or Julio did the two hundred twenty four yards. He

1051
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 6: got hurt within the second drive in the game, so

1052
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 6: that's why Julio went off.

1053
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: But needless to say, he is a calm outside like

1054
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: he's not like me, me me, me me.

1055
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 6: He's the opposite of Jane rams And I respect Jenner

1056
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 6: Ramsey for what he's done because that's how a lot

1057
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 6: of guys have shown marketing. They want to show themselves,

1058
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 6: and that's why receivers chat Outsinka. He did something today

1059
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 6: where he said he never spent any money of his

1060
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 6: NFL money, He's only spent marketing dollars. But the idea

1061
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 6: of it is that he had to put himself on

1062
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 6: in order to get those marketing dollars. So did become

1063
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: a character. A lot of people will say that, But

1064
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 6: the idea of it is that he knew what he

1065
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 6: was doing and he was trying to, you know, build

1066
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 6: out his marketing side. He had a plan, So with

1067
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 6: most NFL players, I was listening to a stat by

1068
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 6: the NFLPA, ninety seven percent of marketing dollars go to

1069
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 6: the top three.

1070
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 3: Percent of the NFL.

1071
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 6: The NFL we all know the Odell Beckhams, of Tom Brady's,

1072
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 6: the Patrick Mahomes, the you know DeAndre Hopkins, like Aja

1073
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 6: Green and not even someone say a j Green in Cincinnati,

1074
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 6: but like Julio Jones, like Mike Thomas, Mike Evan, like

1075
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 6: all the times I'm talking about. But the thing about

1076
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 6: it is that they played. They they're the top three percent.

1077
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 6: So the rest of the NFL is fighting over the

1078
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 6: last little three percent. So there's a lot of social

1079
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 6: media deals and things of that, and so there's ways

1080
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 6: to make money from a marketing standpoint, but a lot

1081
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 6: of times what they've seen is is that success comes

1082
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 6: with me, me, me, me me, And that's what the

1083
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 6: blueprint has been for guys to be successful marketing wise.

1084
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: Deon Sanders, I love him to death, but he was

1085
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 6: definitely but Dion Sanders had a plan, like he knew

1086
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 6: the biggest things with those guys that say me, me, me,

1087
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 6: Like Richard Sherman, I remember having a business my business partner.

1088
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 6: We were having a conversation after that game against Michael Crabtrue.

1089
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 6: He yelled at him and he was like, man.

1090
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: I was like.

1091
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 6: He was like, that's the worst thing he could do

1092
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 6: is the worst thing positive things? Brand I was like, no,

1093
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 6: Richard Sherman just became a star. And Richard Sherman went

1094
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 6: straight off because he was in the camera. It was

1095
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: something to talk about. It was a major game, so

1096
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 6: everyone was talking about that. Is that who stolen's gold chain?

1097
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: No, Michael, that was a key to leave.

1098
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 6: Keith to leave is another one who's a great cornerback

1099
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 6: there just then get a whole lot of marketing. But

1100
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 6: the idea of it this is that he's quiet, kind

1101
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 6: of cool, like he just does his own thing.

1102
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: So that's but that's it's it's a me me. It's

1103
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 3: like philosophy exactly exactly.

1104
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 4: Controversy said shock value solve for sure, and you could

1105
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: be a great player, but if you don't really open

1106
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: your mouth, yeah, nobody.

1107
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 6: Absolutely, no one really cares about you unless you're out

1108
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 6: here of doing that. But by the same token, if

1109
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 6: you do it, you've got to be able to back

1110
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 6: it up. Because if Richard Sherman wasn't built the right

1111
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 6: way and he wasn't about to have a great career,

1112
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 6: and he also didn't have like the foundation off the

1113
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 6: side of the like off the field and doing all

1114
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 6: the other stuff he was doing, he knew like, okay, cool,

1115
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 6: I'm confident myself at this point. And then he was

1116
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 6: like all right, cool, but if you jump out there

1117
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 6: too early and like oh man, that's not going to

1118
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 6: work out well for you. So you just got to

1119
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: be confident in your abilities. But cornerbacks and receivers are

1120
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 6: typically the most confident individuals in the room.

1121
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

1122
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 7: And like you said, I think he used the term.

1123
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 7: The rest of the guys they have helmet, Yes, absolutely.

1124
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 6: So, yeah, we were talking about the clubs and things that,

1125
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 6: like with the NFL, they want you know, we all

1126
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 6: want to check pretty women and we want to be seen.

1127
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 6: So a lot of times with the you'll find the

1128
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 6: NFL players, of baseball players or anybody else has the

1129
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 6: biggest change and the moment bottles. They spend the most

1130
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: money in the clubs because it's a situation where no

1131
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 6: one knows who they are.

1132
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, we got so and so tonight.

1133
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 6: Like it's like, you know, like they want the the

1134
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 6: DJ be like, oh, someone's buying all them bottles, and

1135
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 6: people look and it's like that guy. But the idea

1136
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 6: of it is that it doesn't really make sense. And

1137
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 6: I try to get my clients away from it, and

1138
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 6: you know, I try to put on seminars and stuff

1139
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 6: like that to help them to realize, like, you know,

1140
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 6: you're adequate without having to do all of that. And

1141
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 6: that's fun at times. Yeah, But the question is is

1142
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 6: that how do you balance that? And if you're doing

1143
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 6: that every single night, then there's a problem.

1144
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 4: So how do you feel I have a feel pressure.

1145
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 4: Your clients are rich then millionaires?

1146
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 6: Right, No, that's what you get it wrong. My clients

1147
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 6: make ones about a million dollars. However, not all my

1148
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 6: clients make millions of dollars. So some guys, and that's

1149
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 6: another thing that Brand's talking about. That's hard and I

1150
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 6: really empathize with players. They have the hardest locker room

1151
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 6: from a worker's experience, because I'm twenty two, right, I

1152
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 6: could be undrafted free agent, I could be a baller.

1153
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: You could be the first round pick. You're twenty two.

1154
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: You may hell of money.

1155
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 6: But same time they're competing on and off the field.

1156
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 6: So if he goes and buy a new billion.

1157
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: I got it good. Like.

1158
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 6: That's the issue is that everyone thinks that they're millionaires

1159
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 6: because they play in the locker room. There's a bunch

1160
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 6: of guys that are millionaires, but on a fifty three

1161
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 6: million roster, I think it's average from seventeen to eighteen

1162
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 6: or eighteen to fifteen, guys are millionaire like guys making

1163
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 6: millions of dollars. Other guys are mostly on rookie deals,

1164
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 6: are kind of the revolving door.

1165
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 4: The last ten so I had of fifty two players,

1166
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: only seventeen fifty three.

1167
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: And it's depending upon the team. Some teams have more.

1168
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 6: But I mean, I think I'm sold that seventeen and

1169
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 6: eighteen guys are, you know, making millions of dollars on

1170
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 6: major second contract.

1171
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: It depends.

1172
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: Let's let's go back to that. That's interesting. So out

1173
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: of fifty two players, seventy three, fifty three players seventeen

1174
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: let's say roughly have million dollar contracts in above.

1175
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 3: Yes, are making millions of dollars, so like your stars.

1176
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: So the vast majority of NFL players aren't making millions.

1177
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 6: No, they're making a couple hundred thousand dollars, or if

1178
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 6: they're making a million dollars, they're making just under a

1179
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 6: million or a million dollars.

1180
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 3: It all depends on every team.

1181
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 6: Is a little differently in their careers. Is very careers

1182
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 6: are very short, and most guarantee contracts. No, most guys

1183
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 6: don't get to second contracts. The average career is three

1184
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 6: to four years, depending upon what position you play exactly.

1185
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 6: Quarterbacks typically stay a little longer the receiver. Some guys

1186
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 6: stay a little longer. But you literally could go from

1187
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 6: like I mean not to call someboey out like Corey Coleman.

1188
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 6: Corey Coleman was a first round draft pick a couple

1189
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 6: of years ago for the Browns. I think he's on

1190
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 6: his third or fourth team now and he's trying to

1191
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 6: make a roster and he's a situation where he's a

1192
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 6: receiver for the New York Giants.

1193
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: But everyone knows Sterling Shepherd and this guy, you know

1194
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1195
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 6: So, and the crazy part is that Sterling Shepard and

1196
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 6: Corey Coleman both came out the same year. So Corey

1197
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 6: Coleman was the first round draft pick, Stirling was the

1198
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 6: second round draft pick. Now, Stirling's making way more money

1199
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 6: than Corey, but Corey got more upfront money, but he

1200
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 6: thought he was and you have to live up to

1201
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 6: his expectations. So being an NFL player is a gift

1202
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 6: and a curse because everyone around you thinks you're making

1203
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 6: so much money. So when you go back home, you

1204
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 6: like feel like you got a stunt for your family

1205
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 6: and you know you got cash A.

1206
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 7: Requested that's seventeen out of fifty three is yeah, like that,

1207
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 7: And I guess depending on the financial structure of the team,

1208
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 7: it could be less. Right when you said that, I'm

1209
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 7: thinking about a team like the Patriots, who are very,

1210
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 7: very stringent with their finances, right for sure. Right, Tom

1211
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 7: Brady probably is the best player in the NFL, maybe

1212
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 7: in the NFL history, but he's never been the highest

1213
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 7: paid player.

1214
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 6: No, but they say that Tom Brady gets a lot

1215
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 6: of off the field marketing dollars and he puts them

1216
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 6: like that's due to his performance, of course, And Robert

1217
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 6: Craft cuts them in on deals like he know he's

1218
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 6: getting his money.

1219
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: But it's a situation that nectually come.

1220
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 6: From under the table, actstarily under the table, but it's

1221
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 6: a situation where Jerry Jones takes care of a lot

1222
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 6: of his players, like some of his former players is

1223
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 6: cut in on business deals.

1224
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, I help you out this, Like some.

1225
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 6: Owners are really really good from an owner's perspcative and

1226
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 6: helping these guys. And I think a lot of them,

1227
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 6: I think majority of them aren't that that way for

1228
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 6: their stars.

1229
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: But not everybody's going to be a star.

1230
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 6: And if you're a star too early, say you're a

1231
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 6: star your second year and then like you tear your

1232
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 6: achilles your third year, or you know what I'm saying,

1233
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 6: or you're not the same player two years later, you

1234
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 6: can literally go from being you know. That's why it's

1235
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 6: like you gotta stay humble and stay focused, and when

1236
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 6: you get the big contract, that's fine, but now you've

1237
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 6: got to be able to put it away.

1238
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: And then you got these.

1239
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 6: Numbers that get blasted out and a lot of times

1240
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 6: they're coming from my agents that want to say, hey, yo,

1241
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 6: I got this guy this big deals. But when you

1242
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 6: come back and see the real deals, the numbers, they're

1243
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 6: not nearly as high. It may be, hey, I can

1244
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 6: get him this all with escalator, but he's got to

1245
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 6: do X, Y Z in order to get this number.

1246
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 3: But everyone comes and looks at you, and you become

1247
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: the target.

1248
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 6: So it's like, man, I love to be got it

1249
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 6: to make twenty million dollars and sit in the corner and.

1250
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: Nobody know me. We got we have to get you

1251
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: a quarterback. Yeah, because for sure we got to get

1252
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: you a quarterback.

1253
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 7: Because this week, Carson Wentz when you said that if

1254
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 7: you have a great second year and maybe you get

1255
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 7: hurt and you get the Carson Wentz Now, granted, I

1256
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 7: think he's going to be a phenomenal player, but his

1257
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 7: team did win a Super Bowl without him. He just

1258
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 7: signed an extension for one hundred and forty million.

1259
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: Because this is a quarterback driven league. You need a quarterback.

1260
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 6: If you don't have a quarterback, your season's like, we're

1261
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 6: gonna continue to do we have to do. Kyler Murray

1262
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 6: literally was like, dang, they had Josh Rose for a year.

1263
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 6: They drafted Calli Murray this year because it was like, hey, listen,

1264
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 6: we need to do this. We brought in his coach.

1265
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 6: He runs this offense better. So it's still a quarterback

1266
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 6: driven league.

1267
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: Everything.

1268
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 6: Every everyone knows like that. The quarterback is the key

1269
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 6: to a successful year in most teams. The Baltimore Ravens,

1270
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 6: you know, they had trend Deaf when they went, they

1271
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 6: also had one of the best defenses and the alls,

1272
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 6: and like the Bears that year they went, they had

1273
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 6: Rex Grossen, you know, yeah, yeah, for sure, But I'm

1274
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 6: talking about that the other Bears and the Bears, Yeah.

1275
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 3: Levy and all that kind of stuff.

1276
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think about teams with you know, no

1277
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 6: quarterbacks being their stars.

1278
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, typically like that.

1279
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I said, eighteen guys or so, those numbers

1280
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 6: changed the pinball teams. Some guys may have twenty two,

1281
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 6: some guys may have twenty three, but not all fifty

1282
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 6: three guys are making a million dollars. They don't have

1283
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 6: enough money for the salary cap, but I mean they do,

1284
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 6: but it does. It's not it's a structure based on.

1285
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 7: So in the NBA, I know, the collective bargain, it's

1286
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 7: fifty percent of the revenue needs to be spent on

1287
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 7: the player salary.

1288
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not fifty to fifty Now at this point,

1289
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 6: it was the nfls they're I think they're at forty

1290
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 6: five percent and I think the end of the league

1291
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 6: team is at fifty five percent.

1292
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 3: If I'm not saying they're in the process of redoing

1293
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: this this.

1294
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 4: New c yeah, because they saying that they might have

1295
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: a lockout.

1296
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 6: So so that's one thing that I think that I

1297
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 6: don't know what's going to happen, because the NFL, like

1298
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: that lockout was ugly, and I think everybody took their

1299
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 6: lumps from that, like even though they say the team

1300
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 6: the league won it and all that kind of stuff,

1301
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 6: But by the same token, what the issue is with

1302
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 6: that lockout was it just wasn't good.

1303
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: For TV contracts.

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00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 6: So now the NFL is coming up on all these

1305
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 6: TV contracts and they got to renew these things, and

1306
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 6: they're like, man, if you can't do that, then I

1307
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 6: need I need you guys to be under CBA before

1308
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 6: we do this deal again. So I think the NFL

1309
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 6: is pressured to get the players a better deal because

1310
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 6: they're going to make a better deal on the back end.

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00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 3: The NBA did the deal with TNT in ESPN with

1312
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: twenty four billion. Yeah, nfls, but you gotta realize the

1313
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: NFL is still king. I think, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1314
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, if that's twenty four billion, the NFL.

1315
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 4: So the NFL. But it's interesting because the NFL is

1316
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: the most profitable league. Yeah, in professional sports, boy, out

1317
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 4: of the three major sports in America, the players get

1318
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: paid the least.

1319
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 6: YEP, but the players also get hurt the most. But

1320
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 6: by the same token, it's a situation where players contracts

1321
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 6: need to be shorter. It need to be three year

1322
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 6: guaranteed contracts because that's really what you get when you

1323
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 6: get a big deal like that. So everyone looks at like, hey,

1324
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 6: I look at guaranteed money and what you're getting your

1325
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 6: first three year payout, because that's really what is what

1326
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 6: you really have a good great chance of making. So

1327
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 6: like if you're bumming your first like say, say we

1328
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 6: take a guy who's signs a major contract and his

1329
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 6: first year he doesn't play as much.

1330
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 3: Well, second year he's just terrible.

1331
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 6: The third year's like all right, man, we paid this

1332
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 6: guy twenty four twenty five million dollars, let's.

1333
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: Give him another chance after that third year, they're willing

1334
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: to kind of watch.

1335
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 6: So they need to do more structured, fully guaranteed three

1336
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 6: year contracts.

1337
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 3: But Kirk Cousins did that. Yeah, when you just said that,

1338
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like that sounds like Jameis Winston.

1339
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean I don't like to say anything

1340
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 6: bad about players, And I.

1341
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 7: Mean, like, because he's in a position like this guy

1342
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 7: still young. Yeah, he's the Heighstan Trophy, he's a number

1343
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 7: one overall pen and he's a quarterback. And he's a

1344
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 7: quarterback and it's like, what do we do because we

1345
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 7: watched Fitzpatrick come in and light it up and I

1346
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 7: was like, wait, should we even start this guy now?

1347
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: So they got some decisions.

1348
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 6: And now Vince is down in Miami with Josh Rosen,

1349
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 6: but rant on his perode potentially. So it's going to

1350
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 6: be interesting to see how it all shakes out. But

1351
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 6: needless to say it's gonna be I don't think the

1352
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 6: CBA is going to be I hope.

1353
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: I think that they're making progress.

1354
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 6: From what I hear from the Asian community is that

1355
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 6: you know, we probably will have a CBA before it

1356
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 6: won't be the lockouts, because that's another thing.

1357
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 3: Guys were taking lockout loan.

1358
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say before So Dame Dash's cousin

1359
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 4: forgot his name, but Vince Young had sued him. You know,

1360
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: you know about this.

1361
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: I heard I think I heard someone.

1362
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, so Vince all right, So Dame Dash's cousin

1363
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 4: he was a financier, something to do with in finance, right,

1364
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 4: and he started a business during the last NFL lockout

1365
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: where he was loaning guys money, but he was loaning

1366
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: no money at like crazy fifty interest forty five ors

1367
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 4: crazy interest, right, So Vince Young ends up suing them,

1368
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 4: and long story short, like it all came into the

1369
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: media why he took the loan. He took a loan

1370
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: of like three hundred thousand dollars to pay for his

1371
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 4: birthday party priorities.

1372
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 3: Right.

1373
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: But it's just disturbing that a number one draft pick

1374
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 4: would have to take a loan. That means you're living

1375
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 4: paycheck to paycheck. And that's why I say all the time,

1376
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: it's not how much you make, it is how much

1377
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: you keep. Athletes live paycheck to paycheck all the time.

1378
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: It's just that their paychecks might be fifty thousand dollars.

1379
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: And by the same tiking, they're getting paid over the

1380
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: course of four months.

1381
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 6: So they got to really stretch that throughout the rest

1382
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 6: of They gotta be more budget conscious than even teachers

1383
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 6: or like you know, teachers can paid them nine months potentially,

1384
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 6: and they had that three months of law or whatever.

1385
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 6: They have that four months and other than like OTA's

1386
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 6: are making to coming and now they have the player

1387
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 6: performance when they get a piece of that. But for

1388
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 6: the most part, that ninety eight percent of the income

1389
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 6: is gonna come from that base salary during the season.

1390
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 6: You during the season, and it's gonna add over seventeen weeks.

1391
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 6: You gotta pay taxes, so you're living like a.

1392
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: King one you're in season.

1393
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 6: There's a lot of broke NFL players that played last

1394
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 6: season right now, I'm sure because it's just but it's

1395
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 6: it's things like you said, like it's the financial education

1396
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 6: is not taught in the school. It's not taught, you

1397
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 6: know when you get it's try they try to teach

1398
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 6: you when you get to the NFL. But at that

1399
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 6: point in time, these guys have to literally sit back

1400
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 6: and look and man and say, listen, I may not live.

1401
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: I may. I'm gonna live a lot longer than I

1402
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: play football.

1403
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 6: And I try to tell my guys all the time,

1404
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 6: like you could live like a king for a couple

1405
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 6: of years while you're in the NFL, or you could

1406
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 6: live like a prince for the rest of your life.

1407
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of different things you can

1408
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 6: do to save your money. Like I mean, you've boys

1409
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 6: talking about, you know, in real estate, and that's really

1410
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 6: you know, where a lot of guys can go back

1411
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 6: and invest into their college towns and stuff like that.

1412
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: Those are the kind of things that.

1413
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 6: You really want to start to get your money to

1414
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 6: work for you because right now all you're doing is

1415
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 6: basically bringing on these checks in and spending. And some

1416
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 6: guys are scared to, you know, do investments or things

1417
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 6: like that. But it gets the regular savings account and

1418
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 6: live off. Like I always tell guys like, hey, listen,

1419
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 6: you're a you're in an NFL city, look at the

1420
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 6: average income, live above.

1421
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 3: The average, and you live a good life, like.

1422
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 6: And a lot of the stuff during the season is

1423
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 6: paid for and like, but they do have some, i

1424
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 6: mean some other expenses, like you know if they get cut,

1425
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 6: they have to transport their car like so they have

1426
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 6: some other outside expenses. And in addition to that, they

1427
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 6: sign leases, and you know, they try to sign leases

1428
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 6: that you know will let you out if you get

1429
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 6: cut or and the teams try to do a lot,

1430
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 6: but they can always do more, but by the same token.

1431
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 6: At this point in time, it's starting. You know, you

1432
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 6: can't blame that person, blame this person. You got to

1433
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 6: take an incentive to say, Man, I want to be successful.

1434
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 6: I want to have money when I leave the NFL.

1435
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 6: I don't want this to be the highlight of my life.

1436
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 6: I want this to be a stepping stone to something greater.

1437
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:37,000
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