1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod meets Tworld, a podcast from two guys 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: now we turn to Traders, another show I've never seen, 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: but Will is convinced that he could win. We are 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Will Fredell and Ryder Strong, two best friends, one a 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: TV expert, one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars, join 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: us as we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: and over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod meets 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Tworld Trading Places. How's it going, Will. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: It's going well righter? 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? We are so deep into 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Traders because these three episodes drop right in a row. Yeah, 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I've already seen a whole season of 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: a reality show. 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: They suck in, They suck in, and it's a little 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: especially after three, it's a little exhausting. 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, there's a lot of characters. I mean, 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: I feel like, as much as we've already talked for 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: two hours about the first two episodes, we still haven't 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: covered Like we've mostly focused on four people right a whole. 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: But I think that's normal with with with a lot 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: of I think with a lot of reality shows. Well, 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: I mean you watched Survivor. Is it the same kind 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: of thing. Do you start with twenty some people and 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: you go from there or. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well Survivor has, like, you know, tribes, so 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: there's a distinct sense of like, oh, well this there's 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: three tribes to begin with you or two at least 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: sometimes there's three, but you get a sense of those 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: tribal personalities and whether they're succeeding or not together as 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: a group. So it's more about like which group dynamic 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: do you identify and I think is cool or interesting 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, Whereas in this case, you know, besides when 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: they got on those boats in the first episode, there 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been really a reason to group together. 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: It's really all for one and one. Yeah, no, it's 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: not even one for all. It's just all for one, right, no, 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: one for It's a solo. 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: Thing, That's what I'm saying. 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: But you do you finished three episodes of this and like, 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: I didn't trust anything my wife was saying to me, 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: I didn't trust my mail person. 44 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: I just I was like, what do you mean by that? 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: When you said the letters for me? 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: Did you kill me? 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Did you? 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: Did you? Actually? 50 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: What does that mean? Sir and or madam? Yes, I 51 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: don't trust anybody, don't trust them. No. 52 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: I yeah, That's why I couldn't handle this. I would 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: be like my wheels would be spinning in my head. 54 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: I would have so much discomfort. I would just be like, 55 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: get me out of here. 56 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: So is this another one where if they called you 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: and said we want you to be on Traders you 58 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: say no. 59 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Yeah, I mean way quicker than I mean. 60 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: I would consider it way more than I would Dance 61 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: with the Stars. 62 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: What if, like Johnny, We're and Tara Lepinsky and I'm 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: gonna let our audience decide which one of us is 64 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: Johnny and which one of us is Tara? What about 65 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: if they invited us both to go on together? 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, I do. Would I would do it? 67 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's the fact that my personality would 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: probably like I just I would stick out. I feel 69 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: like I would either be way too. 70 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Quiet and like on my own and. 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Annoying to people in that regard, or just you know, 72 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: like what's up with that guy? And I'd get voted 73 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: off because I was being too shy and quiet or. 74 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: The like switch would be flipped. 75 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: In my brain and I'd be like, oh, I can 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: beat this. 77 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: I could. 78 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: And then I would be way too aggressive and way 79 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: too pretentious, and they would vote me out just for 80 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: being obnoxious, and I would make it all about me, 81 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, like they I kind of yeah, yeah, I 82 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: think I would. I think i'd be Michael Rapp, which 83 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: maybe means I should start voting for him and really 84 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: thinking like yeah, because I do kind of feel for him. 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: I know he's messed it up. 86 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: But he can't help himself. 87 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: He can't just can't help He absolutely can't. 88 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: And we know for a fact by this point that 89 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: he's a faithful Yeah. 90 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: So it's just he's he's just very aggressive. 91 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different style of playing the I'm gonna 92 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna yell at you until you either vote me 93 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: off or I win. 94 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: That's just that's it. Yeah, very straight. 95 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: So I'm actually really I'm I'm pretty damn good at poker, Okay, 96 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: but it's because I don't have any strategy. I just 97 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: never bluff wow, Okay, So I don't play until I 98 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: have a really good hand and then I but everyone 99 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: assumes I'm bluffing and so I c do you know 100 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, it's a different It's just like 101 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I've just learned how to play, and I just never bluff. 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: But if you assume that I might be bluffing because 103 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: I bet big, I'm like, I'm all in and you're like, 104 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: what how could you be all in when you only have? 105 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: But I'm like reading the table and I'm like, no, 106 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: that's I think I have the best hand. Of course, 107 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: I do get burned every once in a while, but 108 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: in general, I've done very well well by just sort 109 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: of not bluffing because I just get so uncomfortable with 110 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: the idea. I don't want to get caught in that position. 111 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: You know, I don't play poker, but I'm pretty damn 112 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: good at candy Crush, and I don't know if that 113 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: would help me in any way in this game. No, no, 114 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: but I can lie and I can play Candy Crush. 115 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: I'd really just go to Scotland for the food because 116 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: it looked like their spreads pretty great. 117 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: See if we both got into this and you ended 118 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: up being a trader and I trusted. 119 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: You, ah, you would imagine that by the end I 120 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: would be. 121 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Emotionally I would be in so much therapy. I'd be like, no, 122 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: I will and I had a code, like there was 123 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: a sense of we would have liked. I would be 124 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: so devastated because. 125 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: Where I just lied to you the whole time. 126 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Well, you'd have to write before through your job, and 127 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: I would fall for it because I would just be like, 128 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: I love you. You would never lie to me? 129 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: What if could you lie to me? 130 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: No? 131 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: You know I couldn't. 132 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I just be like, Will, I'm totally a trader, Just 133 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: please don't vote for me, and I won't kill you. 134 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: And I'll be like, all right, that's fair, Yeah, exactly. 135 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: But see that's a fair A line. I wonder I 136 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: can say that. That's what I'm wondering. 137 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: Can you do that, because that's a fair that's. 138 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: A fair on camera? Like I am a trader? 139 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: No, not that I know, except for when they have 140 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: to ask. Like last season, one of them asked another 141 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: one to join them as traders. So they came up 142 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: and they said, I'm a trader, do you want to 143 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: join me? And it's like if they said no, then 144 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: I think they murdered. But so there's no way. Okay, 145 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: So if you and I were on it, and you 146 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: were a trader, right, there's no way. 147 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: There's no benefit for me like you coming to me 148 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: and saying, I'm a trader, but let's keep it secret 149 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: and let's play the game because I can't win if 150 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: you're still around. 151 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: That's true. 152 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: I also wouldn't be able to tell you who the 153 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 3: other traders were where. It's like, let's vote. I mean, 154 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: I guess I could have if the strategy is the 155 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: trader or the trader. That's what I'm saying is you 156 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: and I then just vote off all the rest of 157 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: the traders, and then we get to the finals, and 158 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: then we just agree to with the money. 159 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that totally goes against the rules of the game, 160 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: doesn't it. 161 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. Isn't the game just to lie, cheat 162 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: and steal until you win? 163 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: This is bound to happen at some point, Why wouldn't it. 164 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: This is why Terry Lipinsk and Johnny Weir are telling it. 165 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: There you must be a rule that's if you're a trader, 166 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: you can't reveal that to anybody faithful other faithful that 167 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: there may be a rule, maybe because it'd be too good. 168 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: Then there'd be like double crossings on double crosses. Do 169 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but that wouldn't they love 170 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: that show? They would love that as the show. Yeah, 171 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: but if there really ruins the integrity of the game, 172 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: like why this is You're still stabbing, You're still backstabbing 173 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: and lying and cheating and stealing. 174 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: We're just doing it with a different alliance, right, one 175 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: faithful trader get together to take out everybody else. 176 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: But then there's no way that faithful benefits in the 177 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: end because. 178 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Unless you decide to split the money. 179 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: Because at the end, if there's one trader left, that 180 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: person gets all the money, all the money, all the money. 181 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: So if you go in kind of saying, dude, we'll 182 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: make it to the end, I win all the money. 183 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: And give you after the fact, you'll just give me 184 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: a half. 185 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I give you a half. 186 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: It seems like it should be illegal. 187 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: It does, but I wonder if it is. I mean, 188 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: that's the question, right. They might love it, I mean, 189 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: because that's really it's great drama, great just where it's 190 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: the trader forming his own alliance with a faithful that's 191 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: a friend, a group of taking. 192 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: Why isn't a trader do that with a group of 193 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: like you could? 194 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: You totally could, So. 195 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: That's never happened where a trader's gone to Faithful and 196 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: been like, hey, guys, I know who the other traders are. 197 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Let's boast them out. 198 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 199 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: I also wonder if you can just flat out, because 200 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: if that's the case, if you are allowed to tell people, 201 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: I wonder why nobody's been to the Roundtable and just 202 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: been like just flat out live and like Michael told 203 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: me he was a trader. 204 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: He told me flat out he was a trader. So 205 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: either believe him or believe me. But I'm telling you 206 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: at breakfast it wasn't a slip. He told me flat out, 207 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: I am a trader, and I'd love to start an 208 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: alliance with you for us to take everybody out. Why 209 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: couldn't you do that? 210 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, there's got to be a rule about this. 211 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I would. 212 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: I would guess there would be too, because it'd be 213 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: too easy to use it to your advantage. 214 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: All right, but who knows? 215 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: All right? 216 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: Continuing into episode three, where we learn at the round 217 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: Table that Rob c was was murdered Smart murdered in 218 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: plain sight? 219 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: Smart? 220 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: Wait, this is it the round table that's a breakfast? None? 221 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: Is that breakfast that we find? 222 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, I said at the round table was at breakfast, 223 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: rob c was murdered in plain sight. I love how 224 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: Alan comming just like the rows there withs to the ground, 225 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: some kind of quip and then it's like, looks like 226 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: he's not a survivor. Now is this is this where 227 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the melted candle outfit made its appearance? 228 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: Because the next I think or I don't know what 229 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: it is, but it's just like a giant yellow It's 230 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: like somebody it's brilliant. It's somebody took genius discussed, yes, amazing, disgusting, genius, brilliant. 231 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: It's like they took a big bird suit and melted 232 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: it down in all the plastic and then just made 233 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: that an outfit. 234 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, brilliant. 235 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: Right, okay, yeah, so this is this is I wrote 236 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: down big bird outfit. 237 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: This is it? 238 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: Man, he's he was. It was like, what's happening? And 239 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: then in the next scene during the roundtable, I was 240 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: looking at it. I was like, oh, it's like it's 241 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: melted wax. It looked like vomit. Yeah, the literal vomit. Yes, 242 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: miss great no, missp misstep. He did. 243 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: What I said to Sue was like it just looks 244 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: like he's wearing a melted candle. 245 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no and there's no logic too, there 246 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: was no like even I don't know. 247 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: He's big in a yellow. He's wearing a lot of 248 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: yellow this season. 249 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: By the way, just going back to what we're talking 250 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: about about you and I going on the show together, 251 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: an interesting season would be having best friends on the show, 252 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: like pairs. 253 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: And you know, another thought I had, what about doing 254 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: a show with just completely nobody's, like, just normal everyday people. Well, no, 255 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: they're doing it in reality, they're doing that. Didn't you 256 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: see the ads? 257 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: No, oh no, there's ads in between here that are saying, 258 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: we're you know, on NBC this year just regular people 259 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: sign up or doing Traders with just regular people this year. 260 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: That is brilliant. That makes me so happy. 261 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: That's how they did it in the UK apparently. 262 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's great because I think that the celebrity factor 263 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: is definitely playing into this, yes, in a way that 264 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: like changes the game, you know, or just makes it 265 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: a very specific style of game. I would I think 266 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: I would rather watch normal people. Wow. 267 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: Yes, season one had celebs and normal and normal people. Okay, 268 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: I think it shouldn't be a combo. No should either. 269 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: Celebs are normally and I think they should continue with 270 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: both because I want to be on one. But they 271 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: also I think seeing normal people. And then you get 272 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: people that are like game strategists. 273 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy was in the military, this woman did this, 274 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: that she was an astronaut, like super smart. You get 275 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: people like on Survivor who lie about their professions because 276 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: they're like they'll be like lawyers, Like lawyers on Survivor 277 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: never admit that they're lawyer. They're always like, I'm a 278 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: plumber and really yeah, because they get targeted otherwise because 279 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: if you were, like, I'm a game strategy, they would 280 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: do like they happened in this Like so what people 281 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: you could lie about that You could be like, oh, 282 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm you know, this person from the South and mehile, 283 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: you're like a NASA scientist. 284 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: Smart, No, you're the guy who invented the game secret 285 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: Nazi exactly that guy, because you'd never admit that. 286 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: So at this point in the episode, Rapaport was just 287 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: going nuts on Jam Jam. This is where he started 288 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: this whole trash talker thing. I'm like, dude, at breakfast, yes, 289 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: at breakfast, Like there's no reason talking trash over question 290 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Jamjam is not giving it back. He's just kind of 291 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: rolling his eyes, and I was like, dude, let it go. 292 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: Man. He made Rapport look like even more of a 293 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: douche by just not really engaging, and everybody else was like, god, dude, 294 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: just shut up. 295 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, those nuts all right? 296 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Then they went to uh some pow wows or well, well, 297 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: first we had the roundtable, I guess, let me see. 298 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: No, that's an at breakfast, he told them. Alan Cumming 299 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 3: told them there was going to be a round table 300 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: and a banishment. 301 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: Right, and then thout the castle. And this is where 302 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: Tiffany and Michael went into that secret room, which is 303 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: the coolest thing. 304 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: Does everybody know about this like this? It's been in 305 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: other seasons as well. 306 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 307 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: The second room. 308 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: Uh, and this is where Tiffany started to like really 309 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: pop for me as a player, because she's doing this 310 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: thing where she's going to keep Michael close. 311 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 2: Trader yeah, which I mean it's kind of a. 312 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: Good strategy maybe, but it also like makes her look 313 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: bad because no one's liking him, right, so I feel 314 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: like she's limiting her social options. She's you know, playing strategy, 315 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know, and then this is where Donna started. 316 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: Everyone just started saying they were going to go for Donna, 317 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: and I was. 318 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Like, why come on, she's bat picking on her, She's 319 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: not picking on Earth. It was necessary, and this is 320 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: also when the producers knew, They absolutely knew she was 321 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: going to go. So it was like, so you think 322 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: they adjusted the one hundred percent absolutely one hundred percent, 323 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: because if she was flying so under the radar, they 324 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: would have kept the Secret Trader a secret for five episodes, 325 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: six episodes. 326 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: So to do it in the beginning of the episode three. 327 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: I was so bummed, all right, So then we went 328 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: to the roundtable, and you know, Donna tried to defend herself. 329 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: She didn't. 330 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: She just kept saying like, I'm I'm just tongue tied 331 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: because I'm such a fan of all I'm a fan, right, Yeah, 332 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: she was trying that and it wasn't really working. Yeah. 333 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: I would say between her choices as the Secret Trader 334 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: and this moment, she really did not play very well. 335 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, unfortunately, but I mean she was 336 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: picked for her, you know, identity, you know, for the 337 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: fact that she would be the last person anyone would 338 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: suspect and they clearly wanted to pick her right off 339 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: the bat. 340 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: So sweet too, she just seems so nice. 341 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Michael and jam Jam went at it. My god, 342 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: and then everyone but Michael voted for Donna and. 343 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: This I was like, if you if you're a trader, 344 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: clap your hands. 345 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh god, if you stopped, Like, 346 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: oh dude. 347 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: But seriously, at this point, I was very upset with 348 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: the show. I was like, yeah, well, I just thought 349 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: it was like a bunch of celebrities picking on a 350 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: more like a non like she's not a performative on 351 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: camera personality. Everyone else is to some degree, and they're 352 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: all like I just felt like they were pouncing on 353 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: somebody because they could. And I was like, man, they're 354 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna get screwed. But I was so wrong. I was 355 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: so wrong because she was a trader. 356 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: So were you shocked when she was like a trader? Shocked? 357 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely shocked? 358 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: Just I mean, man, I just I would have walked 359 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: right into that trap. I would have been I would 360 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: have been defending. 361 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: Her, Donna. Let me tell you all the secrets I know. 362 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: I would have probably lectured everybody about how obnoxious they're being, 363 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: how ageous they're being I would have been the Donna defender. 364 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: I had no instincts that she was. 365 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: The trader, and I just felt like they were picking 366 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: on her because she wasn't like a slick TV personality. 367 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: No, I think it was Vanessa. What's the name of 368 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: the woman you like from Survivor, Natalie Natalie. Natalie was 369 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: the one who's. 370 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: Like, you're you're a perfect, perfect, you know, secret trader. 371 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: And she was saying that, and I was like, but 372 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: that's not that's not fair, Like, don't hold that against her. 373 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: But they were right. 374 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: Was wearing the Seinfeld outfit, I think, or they literally 375 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: make fun of that. It's like she's just wearing a 376 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: Broada jacket, that's what. 377 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, she likes showing a lot of skins, shows a 378 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: lot of skin throught. Yeah, she's she's the Bruno open 379 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: open everything. 380 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. But they were right again, it's yeah, no Donna. 381 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: It was really uh really cool that they were right. 382 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: I was way wrong. Donna's banished yep. And then they 383 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: went to the mission which gets even cooler and more 384 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: wicker man ish with cages yeah, and like carts with 385 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: cages and then bringing them to the marsh and making 386 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: them run around and find skulls. 387 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: Oh, this is where I fell twice in love with 388 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: Johnny Weir. 389 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: With Johnny who just I My favorite was when Eric 390 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: is like, you're an Olympic. 391 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: Yes, you're an Olympic, like you, so you have to 392 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: run the challenge? Was you had to run down? 393 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: Well, we should say whoever's he says, first of all, 394 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: you got a partner up. 395 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't want to be the odd man 396 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: out right, And which is where Ron got screwed. And 397 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: I agreed, unfair because I'm I'm like the only person 398 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: who was Like Ron was defending Donna, which totally made 399 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: sense in my mind. He was pointing out Porsche, which 400 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: also totally made sense, and like, is everyone forgetting that 401 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: most of them voted for Porsche too? So like Ron 402 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: presenting the information that he had the evidence against Porschia 403 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: doesn't make him more likely A trader doesn't make it, 404 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think. 405 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: Like he was, Well, it depends so some what because 406 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: what the traders want to do is they want to 407 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: get all the faithfuls out right. 408 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: So in this case, you're a trader. 409 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: But if you're a trader, you could manufacture I heard 410 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: her say this or this is the evidence I'm bringing. 411 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Then you get everyone to vote her out and then 412 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, so it's like he was on Donna's side. 413 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: They're thinking, so she turned out to be a trader, right, 414 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: because they don't know that she's a secret. 415 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: Trader, right, they just know she's a trader. 416 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: See. That's what's messing me up in my head because 417 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you know that she's the secret trader 418 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: when she gets called out, the person who was defending 419 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: her couldn't possibly also be a trader because they wouldn't know. 420 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: But in this case, they're assuming because he defended her. 421 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 3: Hmm, that's yeah, that's anybody. And it's like, wow, he 422 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: really wanted to get her out here, and. 423 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: It's like she's nice. 424 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 3: Feel I feel for because I think he's a funny, 425 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: nice guy, a funny nice guy. 426 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: But it seems like anything that puts the spotlight on you. 427 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: Is not a good thing, and just keep your mouth shut, yes, 428 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: keep your mouth shut, yes, which is why I think 429 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: Mark is. 430 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: Doing very well, kind of flying under the radar so far. 431 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: Kristin Gish, Yeah, Kristin Gish is the same way. 432 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: So there's yeah, there's but then you so the challenge 433 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: is you. 434 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: Have to go down there. 435 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: There's you decide which one of them is going to 436 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: be in the cage, which one's going to stay out. 437 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: And then once you're in there knowing what the challenge is, right, 438 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: and then you find it out. 439 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: But at this point you probably know it's something slightly physical, right, Yeah, 440 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: they're all kind of physical, but. 441 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: You also don't They're like, you got to decide how 442 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: much you trust your partner and who gets in the 443 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: cage and who doesn't get in the cage. 444 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: Because the idea there is that if you if your 445 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: partner wanted to screw you, they would just leave you 446 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: in there. 447 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: Well, think about it. 448 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: If you're a trader and you partner up with somebody 449 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 3: that you want to get out, it would be a 450 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 3: great way to I can't find the skulls and now 451 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: you're up for murder, and then you. 452 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: Can put yourself. 453 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: None of the traders did that. 454 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: No, but you easily could have. 455 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: That's why it's like, you better trust your partner because 456 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: if I want to screw you over, I'm a trader 457 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: and you're a faithful and I'm yelling from the swamp rider, 458 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: I can't find the tenth good skull where meanwhile, I 459 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: see it right over there. Now you're up for murder 460 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: and then I can we can kill you off. 461 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: Didn't come up, but that actually is a good reason 462 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: to think that, like Johnny would be a trader exactly. 463 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: Eric didn't actually bring it, like they nobody really brought 464 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: that up. 465 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: I think almost anybody else but Johnny they would have 466 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: thought was a trader. I think Johnny they were just 467 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: kind of like, he doesn't want to run around the 468 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: marsh and. 469 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: Grab He's sitting there and he's like, these challenges have 470 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: been specifically hard for me. Uh one water two marsh, 471 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: that's what they're called. Challenge is dumb ass. If it 472 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: was easy, if it was like figure skating, yeah, go 473 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: every Okay, well I really you know, I thought we 474 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: would just be getting brunch and that would be our 475 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? It's gonna be it's a challenge, 476 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: challenging this. Yes, I couldn't believe he said that. It 477 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: was just like, you know, why are we just sitting 478 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: on comfortable chairs and talk them all the time. It 479 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. 480 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: But I love that, dude, you're your Olympic yes athlete. 481 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: It was truly. 482 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: He showed up after ten minutes and had not even like, no, 483 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: come on. 484 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: About four minutes in you heard of me went off Kit. 485 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: It was just like and then, so you got to 486 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 3: find the skulls. You've got to bring them back. 487 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: And then I was like, Okay, this isn't that hard. 488 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: And then I saw them start to stack them, and 489 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: I was. 490 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: Like, oh, it's really challenged. 491 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: This could be really difficult because you've got to stack 492 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: these things on top of each other. 493 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: And they all had these different strategies. Like some people 494 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: were like reverse, Who wasn't that just did a perfect 495 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: like all the same direction. 496 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 2: I forget it. 497 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: But it was like, damn, I can't believe that worked. 498 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: Was perfect. 499 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 1: It was perfect. 500 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: And so if you get out of the cage, you're fine. 501 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 3: If you stuck, you're stuck in the cage, you're up 502 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: for murder. 503 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Colton was was flailing at this one too, and. 504 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 3: He's just play yeah again, what's what's going on in 505 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: a bachelor? 506 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 507 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: My god, I love that. 508 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: Carol. Caroline was like, what's going on? You can't do 509 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: it was the wrong part. 510 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, but that's interesting. 511 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: None of them people that were stuck in the cage 512 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: brought up the thing that you brought up, which is 513 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: very a really good point that you could be looking 514 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: at your partner and saying, are they tanking this intentionally? 515 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: That didn't coactly, that didn't come up, and think about 516 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: this challenge. How easy that would be my brain. 517 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't I would be the one in the cage going like, oh, 518 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: poor John didn't do it. I would never think they're 519 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: a trader and they're screwing me intentionally, which you kind 520 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: of have to think, like. 521 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: Of course, and think about how easy it would be 522 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: such a sucker to blow it because of course just 523 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: trip or not even that I'm covering yourself in mud 524 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 4: when nobody's looking, and come back about it. 525 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 3: Not even that, think about Colton, I got all ten 526 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: as fast as possible, and I still just go. 527 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: Six in and I dropped it. I can get it, 528 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: I can get it. 529 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: But Carolin didn't even suspicion, like she never said anything. Nope. 530 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: And that's the genius of playing as a trader. You 531 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: run there, you get the skulls as fast as possible. 532 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: Then you just can't stack them, like there's so many 533 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: ways to screw your opponent, and then there's poor Ron 534 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: just sitting there by himself who had no partner. 535 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: But now Rob did help Mora. So he's a trader, yes, 536 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: to throw off of somebody else like, obviously, I'm not 537 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: a trader. 538 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: We kicked a butt. 539 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: See I'm so I'm so straightforward. I just thought everyone's 540 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: just gonna play the game, like I never thought that 541 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: you could tank a challenge. 542 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: Sure, you get exactly what you have to do. 543 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 3: Of course, My god, you're gonna be awesome about the 544 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: new The new reality show trusts everybody exactly, which is 545 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: it's just people hanging out. 546 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: And money to people. Just take it. I don't want 547 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: to have any problems. Just take my money. 548 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: Oh do you want to beat me up? Okay? I 549 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: trust you, Okay, I trust. 550 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: So who do we have? And the pairs were what Derinda, Lisa. 551 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: Mirenda and Lisa uh and Lisa did even though she's 552 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: a trader, she was on the shortlist for murder. 553 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: Yep, so she got stuck in her case. 554 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: Derenda did nothing. 555 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: Which as a trader is brilliant. You want to be 556 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: in that cage? 557 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: Hell? 558 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Natalie and Monette. Monette got Natalie out. Colton and 559 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: Caroline Colton fumbled, like we said, Michael and Tiffany. 560 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: Tiffany got Michael cage, and he also, I thought, got 561 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: big brownie points by saying to her and everybody else 562 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: heard it, do you want me to go in the cage. 563 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: I'll go in the cage. I trust you. Like so 564 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, yeah, I'm a fath faithful. I'm a faithful, Yeah. 565 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: A faithful I am right, Maura. But also, isn't that 566 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: what you would do if you're a trader, because you 567 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: know that even if they don't make it, you're not 568 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: going to get murdered. 569 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: Yes, but I mean it would depend. 570 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 3: I think if if you were seriously fighting against your strength, 571 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: like if, for instance, rob Arr was like, no, I'm 572 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: going to go in the cage and Maura, you're going 573 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: to run down there, grab the things and stack them physically, 574 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: that wouldn't make as much sense as him running down 575 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: there and doing all the physical stuff while she sits 576 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 3: in the cage. She even said that she's like, does 577 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: anything physical a tankish debt? 578 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: And so it was like whatever it was, whatever it was, 579 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: whatever she said. 580 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: It's the tease that I love. Its thanks to you, 581 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: du want. 582 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: That's what she was saying the whole time, what d 583 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: duunt uh? 584 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, but I mean it would it wouldn't have 585 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: made as much sense for rob Ar to not be 586 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: the one running around doing the physical stuff, where even 587 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: she said, like you're doing everything physical, so yes, and 588 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: then you. 589 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: Goes against what Michael did. That's what I mean, like, 590 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: because he is more. 591 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: I guess it's true. To god, You're right, there's so. 592 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Many levels he actually if he was a trader, that's 593 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: the perfect move to try and like be like, no, 594 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm willing to prove to you. 595 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's true too. 596 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. Tiffany's kind of, you know, getting 597 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: played by Michael. I think she's just But. 598 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: That's the thing that nobody's playing anybody. They're both. This 599 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: game is so infuriating that you're like, am I playing him? 600 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: Or is he playing me? 601 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Or at the end of the day, you're both in 602 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: the same team. 603 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: Rob and more Rob. 604 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: Rob got Moura out of there. Yep. Candace and Tara, 605 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: uh this one what happened here? 606 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: Canad Candace was stuck in the can. Can got out, 607 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 3: Candace got out right. Johnny couldn't even. 608 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: Fire completely screwed Johnny literally couldn't even find the skulls. 609 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: Mark and Christen. 610 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: This was heartbreaking because Mark was so close, so close, 611 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: didn't make it. 612 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: Nope, they're my favorite pair by the way of just 613 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: of people playing they're my They're the pair that I 614 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: think I would have the most fun hanging out with 615 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: in a social setting would be these two. 616 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I just think both very cool people. 617 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: Yes, those are the people you want to drink wine 618 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 3: with and hang out with at night. Are those two 619 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: people in the castle that would be my that would 620 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: be my team right there? 621 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, jam Jam and Steven jam Jam got out. 622 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: Yep, So Jim Jim was the first one to get out, 623 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: I think. And then and then. 624 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: Didn't even stand a chance because he dared to point 625 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: out actual evidence that he had, even though it turned 626 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 3: out to be wrong, it was actual evidence. He's never 627 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 3: going to speak again. He's never going to speak again exactly. 628 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: So then after the challenge, they explain they're going to 629 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: get tied to a tree and murdered face to face, 630 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: face to face, which I didn't quite understand what that meant. Uh, 631 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: And I still like, are they gonna because they're not 632 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: going to get to see who the traders are unless 633 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: they're murdered. Correct. 634 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: I think once you're murdered, you pull off the mask 635 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: and you go, I just murdered you. 636 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. So brutal. It's so brutal, brutal yet fabulous. 637 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: It's it's entertaining, for sure. It's a lot of twists 638 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: and turns. Yes, all right. The traders got together in 639 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: the turret and I was at this point, I was like, 640 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: is she still is stuck in her cage? I guess 641 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: they took her at the back of the hotel and 642 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: then brought her out and then took everyone from the 643 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: hotel to tie them to trees. Ye, my god, production 644 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: on this so interesting, so interesting. We have no idea 645 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: what was discussed, any predictions who they're going to murder. 646 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 2: So wait, okay, so the people that are that are 647 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: tied to the tree are. 648 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: Lisa, who is not who is not who is a trader? 649 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: So that's not gonna happen, right Eric, Ron obviously who 650 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: else is left? 651 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, I remember, I think it's going to be. 652 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: It's so tough. 653 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: I think Kristen's safe. I don't think there's any reason 654 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: to kill her. I think Ron now see, here's the 655 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 3: other thing though, they could They could kill two birds 656 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: with one stone here. Because Ron is on the short 657 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: list for being vote, everyone wants to banish him. He's 658 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: gonna there's a real good chance he's going to be banished, exactly. 659 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: So kill somebody other than him and then banish him 660 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: the next day and you get two people out. 661 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: I have the exact same thought. Yeah, I would say 662 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: it's a waste to kill Ro except the only thing 663 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: well no, yeah, nose. I was going to say, if 664 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: because a lot of Ron has a lot of enemies already. Yeah, no, no, 665 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: they're going to vote Ron out, right, So so you 666 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: throw somebody off, you throw everybody off by killing somebody 667 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: of innocent and seemingly so has anybody because Eric, it's 668 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: gotta be Eric, then right, it's gonna be maybe maybe 669 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: it will be Kristin. 670 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: Because it's such a it's just doesn't doesn't mean anything. 671 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: Not really, I don't think so, right, Eric and Kristin 672 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: would just be like oh. 673 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, like why did they kill them? 674 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: Right? But eliminates people. 675 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: And then the next day you vote run out and 676 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: you get two out right away. 677 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: Right, Because if everyone assumes that Ron is a trader, 678 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: then him surviving only further helps make him look like 679 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: a trader. 680 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: Right right right, Like you were in the cage by yourself, 681 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: no one wanted to partner with you, and you're still here. 682 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: You're a trader, dude, voting you out? 683 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: And then the faithfuls are the traders, got two faithfuls out. 684 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: Right back to back. Aw, that's the only movie. I agree. 685 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: I agree. So poor Eric and Kristen are just going 686 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 2: to be Eric or Kristen. 687 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: And I think. 688 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be Oh god, then I 689 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: think it's going to be Kristin. 690 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Kristen might be going. 691 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: One thing we should talk about every episode is who 692 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: do you think at this point is going to win 693 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: the whole thing? Like, who do you think at this 694 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: point You've got all your money down on somebody who 695 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: right now for you, is going to win the show? 696 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: Well, if it's. 697 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: A trader, only one trader makes if there's a trader 698 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: left correct, right? 699 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: What if there's more than one trader kit, more than 700 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: one trader make it to the end? Do they split 701 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: the money? 702 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: Yes? So yeah, they okay, so split the money. 703 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Cannas is gonna get caught. I 704 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: think she's still playing to her even know they've been 705 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: doing well. I think I think they got really lucky 706 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: with the Donna thing, and I don't think that Cannas 707 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: is actually going to be able to play it. Rob 708 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: is doing really well. 709 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: I think so too, but I think they're going to 710 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: get him to really Yeah. I don't know why. 711 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: My money right now is that Rob will actually make 712 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: it the longest of the traders, and I can see 713 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: the really good shot at winning. But if we're talking 714 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: faithful's winning, I think the faithfuls at the end could be. 715 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm still believing. I'm a believer in Natalie. I believe 716 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: she's not going to piss people off. I think Natalie 717 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: and in a weird way. Yeah, yeah, I think going 718 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: to Natalie and Colton have a really good show. 719 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: And Colton's playing so well. I agree. 720 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: And And how how many faithfuls are at the end? 721 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: You always make the last season? Okay, yeah, there's a 722 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: certain point they have to cut it off and say. 723 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: And then and then the way they end it is 724 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: all of the people there around a bonfire have to 725 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: agree to end, meaning they have to be like I 726 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: think everybody here right now is a. 727 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: Faith is absolutely a faithful and. 728 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: I believe it enough to where I'm going all in 729 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: and we're going to split the money. 730 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: WUK in a weird way. If Michael Rapperport doesn't annoy 731 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: the crap at every everybody because he is so committed, 732 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: and if he can convince people and they can just 733 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: be able to separate personality from what he's actually saying, 734 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: he has a good shot because he's so like, he's 735 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: so like, no, man, I'm gonna do you know, He's 736 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: like so passionate that if he can convince, like the 737 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: way he's got Tiffany, you know, on his side, even 738 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: though she doesn't actually believe it, I feel like he 739 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: might have a shot because he's so erratic that the 740 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: traders might not want the traders might want to keep 741 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: him around, do you know what I mean for a while, 742 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: because you kill him off, you lose your voice of 743 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: like attention and people. I don't know. 744 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: I also think, and here's a hot take, I think 745 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: there's a chance that Derinda. 746 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: Makes it to the end too this year. 747 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: Hm. 748 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 749 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: I feel like some people like her and she's flying 750 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: under the radar, and I feel like she's got a shot. 751 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: All right, but I think we're both in agreement, Natalie 752 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: and or Colton. For sure, I'm team Natalie, you got Colton? Okay, 753 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: see how this plays out? 754 00:33:59,600 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: All right? 755 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: Well, that's it for this episode of Pod meets Twirled. 756 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: Once again, alliances were tested, trust misplaced, and we're left 757 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: with a cliffhanger. Join us next time as we continue 758 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: our journey through season four of Traders, a show in which, 759 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: as Shakespeare said in his Scottish play, fair is foul 760 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: and 761 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: Foul is fair