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Speaker 1: What is Up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Stuff Podcast. We've got the Royal series to talk about,

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Speaker 2: which luckily the Mets won. It was kind of crazy

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Speaker 2: how they did, but they won it. A little bit

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Speaker 2: of All Star game talk, a little bit of Jonah

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Speaker 2: Tong Tongu talk, a little bit of media marvels, and

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Speaker 2: a little bit of the MLB Draft. So make sure

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Speaker 2: you stick around to the end of the episode to

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Speaker 2: hear everything you need before the All Star break happens.

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Speaker 2: and subscribe. James, how we feeling? I've been locked into

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Speaker 2: the MLB draft tonight. The game ended hours and hours ago.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a lifetime ago that the Mets lost

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Speaker 2: Game three of the series against the Royals. How are

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Speaker 2: we feeling on this late Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: I felt wonderful coming into this week, this little minu

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Speaker 1: road trip before the break. I think I told you

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Speaker 1: guys three and three would make me feel pretty fine.

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Speaker 1: And you win one series, lose one series. You go

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Speaker 1: three and three for a week on the road. Most

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Speaker 1: of these guys have the night off. A lot of

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Speaker 1: these guys are actually heading to Atlanta for the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game. But you walk into you walk out of

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Speaker 1: the first half still feeling like you're one of the

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Speaker 1: better teams in the National League. You can hank your

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Speaker 1: hats on the fact that you are one of the

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Speaker 1: better teams in National League despite patch working this whole

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Speaker 1: thing together for like six weeks. Now, we were a

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Speaker 1: little bit pissy and movie last episode, we put our

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Speaker 1: hand up and admit that one. But that was a

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Speaker 1: shitty double headed the Mets had to play, So we're

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Speaker 1: sorry you guys had to get our temper tantrum because

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Speaker 1: that one rarely recorded, Like twenty five seconds after the

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Speaker 1: game ended. That was the fastest end of game to

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Speaker 1: beginning of podcast I think we've had all season. So

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Speaker 1: there were no moments for cooling down. There, there was

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Speaker 1: no activity in between. But this series was a good

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Speaker 1: palate cleanser because you had a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 1: Like Friday Night, you have the dramatic, really fun. Comeback

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Speaker 1: Saturday you have a really really well pitched game. And

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Speaker 1: then Sunday, even though you lost, we have the return

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Speaker 1: of Seaun and I and of course the return of

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Speaker 1: Code Saying on Friday. So I think every single game

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Speaker 1: this series you did have something you could feel good about.

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Speaker 1: I think that the team has a lot of things

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Speaker 1: they can feel good about it again heading into the break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think like any concerns, any worries I

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Speaker 2: think that are still with this team. It does still

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Speaker 2: come down to the offense, weirdly enough, because that's the

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Speaker 2: thing that's the pitching has been fine. It was fine

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Speaker 2: this series. Pitch really well against Kinsaitya Royals. Not the

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Speaker 2: best lineup by any means, maybe one of the worst,

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Speaker 2: but they still got the job done on the pitching side.

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Speaker 2: Just need to do more hitting and it was nice

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Speaker 2: to see Mark Viento swinging the bat better. I'm still

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Speaker 2: not ready to say he's back. I'm not in that

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Speaker 2: zone just yet, but he is swinging the bat better.

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Speaker 2: Got a couple hits in Game three, had the big

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Speaker 2: hit in Game one the basis clearing double. That's stuff,

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Speaker 2: I think, even just for the mental side of Mark Viento's,

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Speaker 2: head case at times. Whether or not that's good or bad,

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Speaker 2: we'll let that be determined. But I think just for

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Speaker 2: good sign for Mark Vienzo's.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like night and day. How much better

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Speaker 1: he did look in this year is like how much

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Speaker 1: more confident he did seem to be. I thought it

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Speaker 1: Mark Fanze was thrown out their base. He tried to

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Speaker 1: video that went viral and way past messwa it went

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Speaker 1: really great and active in the Mess community. Lots of

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Speaker 1: come scrolling thro our dms. Really good podcasting here, such

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Speaker 1: good podcast captain at school. Legend of that altro Seas.

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Speaker 1: I think he might have changed his his his profile

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Speaker 1: picture recently, so I might forgot that. But so someone

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Speaker 1: in the crowd was screaming a Mess fans. There were

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Speaker 1: a lot of Mess fans in case, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of Mes fans in every road series you play it,

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Speaker 1: screaming at Mark Fientos, swing the bat, Swing the bat.

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Speaker 1: You can't hit the ball if you don't swing. And

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Speaker 1: it's two and two. It got so serious and so

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Speaker 3: Bases are loaded and Stevas said and time calm Mantos

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Speaker 3: extends the hand up to get Jim Wolves attention, Mark

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Speaker 1: And then he came back in the box against Carloso Stevez,

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Speaker 1: Mark Viandal's I mentioned that double Heather when when Jesse

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Speaker 1: that surprise that asrendalin filling your body can definitely help

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Speaker 1: you get out of that. And I did see that

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Speaker 1: then he gets the big hit. So we've said a

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Speaker 1: I think Mark Fianto is kind of the most important

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: Happens to Carlos de Stevez when he faces the Mets,

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Speaker 2: but he gets like the thousand miles stare PTSD look

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Speaker 2: where it's like he's gonna be like again, this is

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Speaker 2: happening to me. I can't believe I get this team out.

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Speaker 2: He blew game one. He technically blew Game three as well,

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Speaker 2: which is also crazy. The Francisco Lindor Grand Slam, it's

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Speaker 2: like groundhogs. They go all over and over again for

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Speaker 2: this guy. But Viento's getting that hit was huge, like

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, just from the mental side of things, which

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Speaker 2: I do think is a big part of Mark Fienzo's game.

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Speaker 1: When you slam, when you.

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Speaker 2: Slim a bat like that, that's insane, And I think

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Speaker 2: Ronnie was right. I do love seeing emotion. But there

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Speaker 2: is a time and place and an appropriate time for

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Speaker 2: Mark Fiento's who, for lack of a better term, has

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Speaker 2: been stinking it up all year. You can't like throw

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Speaker 2: up in this big spot like we've seen Pete Alonzo

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Speaker 2: but I'm saying Pete Alonzo has a little bit more pressure.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Vento's is more mad at himself. I

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Speaker 2: getting down so insanely late when he's getting ready to hit.

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Speaker 2: Almost barely touching the ground when he gets ready to

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Speaker 2: that was getting down earlier. Now that being said, he

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Speaker 1: Big hit for us.

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Speaker 2: Huge shout out to Mark Fiento's Hopefully he continues to

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Speaker 2: play well. And I agree with you, James, he probably

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Speaker 2: is the most important least important player on this entire team.

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Speaker 1: He's the most important player I think away from the

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Speaker 2: Well, just even think about it from the context of

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Speaker 2: last year, the Marfienzo's we're seeing right now, has been

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Speaker 2: the mark Fiento's we had known prior to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: He became a different player last year, and look at

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Speaker 2: what it did for this team's offense.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine what it would do to this

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Speaker 1: Ramin not a little bit more of a diet tribe

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Speaker 1: on that moment, just being like, hey, like, you know

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Speaker 1: to this level. Ronnie was like, you've been the best

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Speaker 1: Like he met Gaba Kaman like that. And then he

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Speaker 1: was like you kind of have to understand that you

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Speaker 1: have to wash away everything that happened this year, like

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Speaker 1: your stats are never going to look good this season.

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Speaker 1: That you have to get rid of that like assumption,

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Speaker 1: like hoping that happens. So what you have to do

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Speaker 1: is say from this moment on and then and Ronnie

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Speaker 1: And also, at the same time, as we've talked now

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Speaker 2: Frankie five innings, Frankie fastballs, just doing his thing again,

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Speaker 1: Let's it. I have another take for you about something

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Speaker 2: Say, it is nice because he has that experience where

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Speaker 2: he might not have that stuff anymore, but he's got

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Speaker 2: the mental side of it where it's like he can

435
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Speaker 2: come in and be like I've done this before, like

436
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Speaker 2: I can handle this. I know how to get out

437
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Speaker 2: of these situations. And Kristovinski, like you said, has Loki

438
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Speaker 2: been pretty great for this team, which is kind of

439
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Speaker 2: something I did not expect to say. But I do

440
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Speaker 2: remember when we signed him in spring training talking about it.

441
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Speaker 2: We're like, Christovinsky's gonna get some big outs for the

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Speaker 2: stee We.

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Speaker 1: Know, yes, that's it. He's started nine innings this year,

444
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Speaker 1: the whip is under one and the e ras under two.

445
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Speaker 1: Lead reliever. Put him on the All Star team like Misraowski. Yeah,

446
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Speaker 1: I am right, not not that different, but yeah, we

447
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,800
Speaker 1: could talk about Miserski too. I forgot that happened this weekend.

448
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,040
Speaker 1: So many other things happened to baseball world, but that

449
00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,680
Speaker 1: was huge, and Edmund Diaz just completely rocking the world

450
00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,040
Speaker 1: for his one ending of work just looks so fucking good.

451
00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,280
Speaker 1: He's been so damn good this entire season, besides for

452
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Speaker 1: the tiny little blip in April, which yes, and again

453
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Speaker 1: since then, fucking great. Once we figured out that his

454
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Speaker 1: legs were different sizes, there's no stopping Edmund Diaz, and

455
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Speaker 1: he's not. He's even doing this without the peak peak velocity,

456
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Speaker 1: like remember when Dicomo was like sounding the alarm bells

457
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Speaker 1: like Edwin Diaz sitting ninety seven.

458
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Speaker 2: Don't get me started on Tecmo. He's on my ship

459
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Speaker 2: list right now.

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Speaker 1: He's getting media marveled at some point here, Well, we'll

461
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Speaker 1: get we'll get to all the media stuff this weekend

462
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Speaker 1: because we had we had a full weekend of Steve

463
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Speaker 1: Gelips twos, which we definitely talk about. But he has

464
00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,840
Speaker 1: looked so fucking good. The way he's using that fastball

465
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Speaker 1: in the slide there no one knows which one is

466
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Speaker 1: coming when he has pause, No, when he has commanded

467
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Speaker 1: both of them. He's really still just one of the

468
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Speaker 1: three or four best really pitches in baseball, and like,

469
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Speaker 1: I'm happy that I'm happy that he's here and also

470
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Speaker 1: happy to cross some dose was like, fuck, it's he

471
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Speaker 1: alstar break two innings, just get them all out.

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Speaker 2: I got a question for you, uh s Bobby went

473
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Speaker 2: out because I sure as hell can't believe he was

474
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Speaker 2: called out after a review. I'm not really sure how

475
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,120
Speaker 2: that one went our way.

476
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Speaker 1: There's no fucking way Bobby Wit was out. We just forgot.

477
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Speaker 1: We also forgot to talk about that in the Friday

478
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Speaker 1: game because the same thing happened, but not as egregious

479
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Speaker 1: as the Bobby Woit play heard around the world.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bobby Wit play every angle and every replay

481
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Speaker 2: that I've seen. I am not really sure how that

482
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Speaker 2: one got overturned, especially because he's called safe on the field.

483
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Speaker 1: Who was called out on the field.

484
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Speaker 2: Maybe I could understand they can't overturn it, but the

485
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Speaker 2: fact that it went from safe to out first tip

486
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Speaker 2: your cap. Luis Torrenz again continues to be out standing defensively.

487
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Speaker 1: At throwing out runners, and the guys in the video

488
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Speaker 1: room Yes, ha, throw that challenge out there is like

489
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Speaker 1: holy shit, yeah crazy.

490
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Speaker 2: That being said Bigger Baseball conversation here, I think Major

491
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Speaker 2: League Baseball needs to release the footage from inside the

492
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Speaker 2: umpire room out in Secaucus, where it's like, I want

493
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 2: to hear what they're saying, what they're actually physically seeing,

494
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 2: to see why these calls are being changed or confirmed

495
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Speaker 2: or just left alone, because I still don't know how

496
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,800
Speaker 2: that one got overturned, even though I'm happy about it.

497
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Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of takes about this call this

498
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Speaker 1: weekend that this is what happens, This happens every once

499
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Speaker 1: in a while, where the terminology is thrown around is

500
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: that's not in the spirit of the rule, that these

501
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 1: guys are off the base for a millisecond in the

502
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Speaker 1: middle of a slide. And the way it looked on

503
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Speaker 1: the replay, it did seem like when Bobby Wood slid

504
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 1: over the base, there was a moment when his hip

505
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: wasn't on the base, but his arms weren't on either.

506
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 1: He's kind of hunched like with his shoulders over the base,

507
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, I guess if you have that

508
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,199
Speaker 1: frame by frame, there probably was the second there he

509
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 1: actually wasn't on it, and Francisco and Door kept the

510
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: tag on the whole time, so he is out. But

511
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 1: that spirit of the rule is probably something that has

512
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: to come into the actual language of this instant replay

513
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 1: review because this happens far too often. Met's have got

514
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 1: screwed by this a few times as well. Everyone gets

515
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 1: screwed by this, and that.

516
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 2: It's the annoying thing where it's like, it is technically

517
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 2: the right call, but like you said, in the spirit

518
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 2: of the game in terms of baseball, that's not the right.

519
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: Call at all. That call happening the way it does

520
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 1: as often as it does makes me like not even

521
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: that the world that we have this instant replay at

522
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 1: the level we have it at sometimes because it's just like,

523
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: what this sucks, Like I don't want no one should

524
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: get screwed up on a call like that, truthfully, like

525
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: that there's no reason And shout out the Royals fans

526
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 1: because they booed for fifteen consecutive always into into the

527
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: next inning about that happened because you got a man,

528
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 1: you got a man on the second one out pass

529
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: Mootina with the plate like that's that's a moment right there.

530
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 1: And man's second went out against Edwin did as you

531
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Speaker 1: need that And then when they stole their base, who

532
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that was Tolbert that was lost and whoever got

533
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: them confused in the ninth inning on Sunday, it was

534
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: Tolbert easily confusable players and they gave a huge standing

535
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 1: ovation the crowd. They're like, yeah, we stole the base.

536
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 1: Finally stole the base, third try, we got it. Also,

537
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: just to put lipstick on a pick for this conversation,

538
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: credits to Luis Torenz for even making it that close,

539
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: because how slow Edwin Diez is the plate. It was

540
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: a pitch out and he put a throat completely on

541
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: the fucking money.

542
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: Like and then also how insanely fast Bobby Wood Junior

543
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 2: is that on a designed pitch out.

544
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 1: He still was pretty much safe, so beat the throw

545
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: by a step. Yeah, but again like just he kind

546
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: of just you need some bushes sometimes to win these games.

547
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: The only runs we scored until the ninth inning was

548
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: a Mammoth one soda home run. Still probably the best

549
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: All Star snub ever, like the first one of the

550
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Speaker 1: best first, I guess besides Michael Busch in the same year,

551
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Speaker 1: which is.

552
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: Crazy Michael Michael Bush not making it's also crazy Matt

553
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Speaker 2: Ulsto made it over him. I can't, I can't even

554
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: wrap my head around.

555
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 1: Shit, Michael Bush is like a nine to fifty ops

556
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: like some of the best that's in the entire National League.

557
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 2: There, it is one of the best hitters in baseball

558
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: this year.

559
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: Literally, But so to hit that home run onto the

560
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Speaker 1: waterfall at Coffin Field, I never see home runs get

561
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: hit there. They were. They were marveling out for a while.

562
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: Ronnie couldn't believe it either.

563
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was Gelb saying? Because he was he was

564
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: on fire on the mic this weekend.

565
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: Gelbs was talking like this and then leaving dead space,

566
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: but making the call sound like questions stick sound like

567
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: questions to every single one.

568
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Speaker 2: The my particular favorite part this will lead us into

569
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Speaker 2: Game three was when they were bringing up out seed

570
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 2: his escobar and because he's cousins with Acuna and Michael Garcia,

571
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: because MIKEL. Garcia and Kun your cousins. So they brought

572
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: up Ali his escobar and Gelbs brings up He's like,

573
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: oh yeah, every time I hear el Seat his escbar,

574
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: I think about no cindergart thrown at him, And Ron's like,

575
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: I think, I think of a different first pitch of

576
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: the game, and was like, no, it's the same one.

577
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: He's like really and he's like, well, what were you

578
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Speaker 1: think He's like when.

579
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Speaker 2: Al see his eskebar hit all inside the Park home

580
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Speaker 2: run to the World Series and every Mets fan new,

581
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: We're like, ah, fuck, this isn't gonna go Well, yeah,

582
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: that was uh, I mean he was he was busy

583
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: watching the Yankees or s and Y wasn't working that series,

584
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: so I don't know, he's watching the Rangers whatever he

585
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: was doing.

586
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is telling, and we we take

587
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: our shots at Kelsey, but like he does a he

588
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: does a totally fine job, like at as a reporter,

589
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: like he's line guy's great. Yeah, what he does there

590
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: is amazing. He got that he had something go viral

591
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 1: last week. We talked about the intercept point for one,

592
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: so that something we told you got about like three

593
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: and a half months ago. But we're first he's good

594
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: at that. Gels is good at getting those stories. He's

595
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: good to getting the scoops. The people they like him.

596
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: That's the number more thing you have to be is reported,

597
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: be likable, be someone that the players can speak openly

598
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: with when he does and this, I guess this is

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Speaker 1: this will be the first media marvelll get some more

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Speaker 1: later what he's played by play. He just simply doesn't

601
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: have it.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's it's like disturbing to listen. It's just

603
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: like that, it's not even disturbing. It's just it makes me.

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Speaker 1: One appreciate Gary Cohens so much more. It suddenly makes me,

605
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: as a Mets fan, feel not special anymore because I

606
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: listen to other broadcasts, nine of them like holy shit bad,

607
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: Like they're not even in the same galaxy. Is what

608
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Speaker 1: the Mets can do that, Gary Cohen, see Keith and

609
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Speaker 1: Ron on the mic. But then Gelbs comes on. You're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this now sounds like a lot of the other just

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Speaker 1: media trained people who just have this.

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Speaker 2: What's your least favorite broadcast off the top of your head?

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Speaker 1: Twins?

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Speaker 2: sure what's sport I'm watching half the time.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this to this same time because this

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Speaker 1: weekend where both Gary and how We are off at

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Speaker 1: the same time because before they also break. These guys

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Speaker 1: Keith Rad incredible. Keith Rad did this whole week because

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648
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Speaker 1: Here you're a little top spit long week living during

649
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: the end Sunday. My brain's not working well right now.

650
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: But Pat McCarthy wasn't there either because each had a baby.

651
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: So Anthony Record was there. I think it was the

652
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: first time he's done right. The own Record did a

653
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: pretty good job. We were going to Meetium Marvel him

654
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: before those awful Double Heavy two that happened on Thursday.

655
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: But he did a good job. But it was really

656
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: Keith carrying that broadcast because it was Rex's first first

657
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: time in that booth and a lot of Keith's calls

658
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: from that great win on Friday did make it onto Twitter.

659
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: Altroll was clipping a couple of those as well, putting

660
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: it over the television game fee just tell you how

661
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: gelpsund it during some of those calls. But he's incredible,

662
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: and I do think that like someone like Gallops, like

663
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: if he's actually being groomed for this s n Y

664
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: play by player und which is really good, it's a

665
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: really good chance there is, Like I think he could

666
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: take a page out of Gary's book and I would

667
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: love some home and homes where Gelbs would do radio

668
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: and then we can get Keith on TV. But the

669
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: problem if we put Keith on TV, someone else going

670
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: to find Keith Rat. Keith Rat's going to get a job,

671
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: just like Wayne n. Dazzo. And I don't want that

672
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: because I listen to a lot of games on the

673
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: radio and Keith is incredible.

674
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: I also think it's not fair of the people listening

675
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: on the radio if Gelps is on the radio, it's

676
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: just like, again, we're watching the game and we're like

677
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: not the greatest imagine if you can't see what's going

678
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: on and you just have to hear about what's going on.

679
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: You're really gonna be confused.

680
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: Again, he's not a he's not a play by play guy,

681
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: so he's not doing a job that he is meant

682
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: to do. But also at the same time, I really

683
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: hope that's why I thinks he's not the next Kevin

684
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Burkgard because he's not.

685
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: And then also, but at the same time as that,

686
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: that's why I think radio reps would help you think.

687
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: So oh, we bhysically have to have talking Like when

688
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: we talk to Howie he said that like games on

689
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: the radio, like that's the art form, and we for

690
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: Keith talk about that as well. But how wait, we

691
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: talked to Wayn Daze about that as well, like Wayne

692
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: to talk about how much doing games on the radio

693
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: helped him do games on television. Gar was a radio

694
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: guy too, one hundred percent, Like you can't have that

695
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: dead air on the radio because it's the fucking radio.

696
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: Like people are not looking at anything like besides the

697
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: car they're driving or the bike they're riding, like me

698
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn. But that I think is something because Gelves

699
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: seems like he would get stuck sometimes and then do

700
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: the Michael k where not he wouldn't talk for a

701
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: nine ten seconds I don't watch all yeah, like come on,

702
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: let's get let's get something going here. Ron was good too,

703
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: because Ron, guess the guys do this, They love to

704
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: rip him, even even though he's sitting in the booth

705
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: next to him. Ron did not stop just like lightly

706
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: bullying him a little bit, which I thought was kind

707
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: of a nice touch.

708
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: That's also endearing to Steve Gelbs too. That means they

709
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: like you. You're you're light club guys.

710
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you're in the crew. But again, as much

711
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: as that's enough we could do by Steve Gelbs in

712
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: this game. Of course, the Saturday game, while the result

713
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: wasn't good, I think we can really really really really

714
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: Sunday game, well, the result was good, we can be

715
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: really really excited about what we saw from Sean and

716
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: I shrum and I looked awesome. He looked fantastic.

717
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: He came out three to the third inning, struck out seven.

718
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: I know he like gave up the game winning run

719
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: at the end of the game. Whatever you want to

720
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: make that b but the stuff looked great. Got a

721
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: ton of swing and misses. The fastball had some life

722
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: sitting ninety four ninety three. At times he felt like

723
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 2: he was locating. There wasn't at bat Vine pas Quentino

724
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: won the at bat, yeah, but he was making pitch

725
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: after pitch after pitch and that's one of those you

726
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: tip your cap to the passquatch. Just a great at bat,

727
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: really good hitter. But Seuman and I was putting things

728
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: on the black. He was doing different pitches inside, outside, high, low,

729
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, like, I know it's been

730
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: a minute since we've watched him pitch. Maybe I forgot

731
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: a bit, but he really is a solid, solid pitcher

732
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: and helps his team out so much.

733
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: Having him back, he looked he looked the same as

734
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: he did last year when he was at his best,

735
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: which is something I think we were both a little

736
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: bit afraid of and still moving forward coming back from

737
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: these two injuries, like nothing long way to go to

738
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: where like supremely max nlds confidence, Seaun and I again,

739
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: but like it was amazing to watch they had bats again.

740
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: Salvago prezident would really got me because salvid is Salvi's

741
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: a dead red hither and Sean ma and I so

742
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't give fuck, here's the fastball high, give it

743
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: a shot, And he got him with those fastballs high

744
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: multiple times. So I was like that not only is

745
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: something that is one crazy, it takes balls to do that.

746
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Salvado Perez he got he struck him out swinging twice

747
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: with high fastballs in the zone, Like was like, damn

748
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: like to have that confidence with that pitch right now.

749
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: And it was the Shawn and I approach that we

750
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: saw last year with the low arm slot, with the weird,

751
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: weird extension and just grooving those fastballs high, and you

752
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: commanded those were shockingly good for how how long the

753
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: layoff he's had while breaking down the sweepers. A couple

754
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: of them he tried to get back foot, some of

755
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: them kind of sat in the zone. That's did make

756
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: him susceptible at times, but burying them against the lefties too,

757
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: and being able to spot that fastball, like you said,

758
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: in the different quadrts against the lefties. Like I left

759
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: this game feeling ridiculously confidence, shaman. I. Do you think

760
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: his next start is going to be a full start

761
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: for him?

762
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: Or do you think they do another piggyback off of

763
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: play homes type thing? Because I'll say this too, don't

764
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: hate that either, like play home Shamania, it's your game,

765
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: finish it.

766
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 1: I don't either. But then the flip side of that is,

767
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: how do you manage the rest of the rotation if

768
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing like I think, and this is

769
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: something that some of you guys got on his four

770
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: last episode being critical of David Sarus, not at any

771
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: point seemingly wanting to bring up Nolan McLean or Brandon

772
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: Sprot yet. I think we'll talk about that more philosophically.

773
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: We just go through his conversation. But with Coda Sanga,

774
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: the Mets have always strongly preferred to use a six

775
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: man rotations so that everyone can get the extra day.

776
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: Right now, like we counted before, you really only have

777
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: the five star that's Manaia, Holmes, Peterson, Sanga and Mantas,

778
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: So you can't really smash any guys together because then

779
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: you only have four yea, you know what I mean.

780
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: Like I know, the off days line up decent after

781
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: the break, but you don't really want to do that,

782
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: especially with Manaia and cod that you do want to

783
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: be giving those guys breaks. Sam McLay Holmes, who's already

784
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: well passed his career high an innings, And this is

785
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: something that we're going down to monitor the whole second half,

786
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: which is why I do think that it could have

787
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: made sense over the last month because it wasn't going

788
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: to be a short term thing if you get sprot

789
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: and McLain coming up and they were pitching the wad

790
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: Dell Hageman games, where if they're comfortable pitching three innings

791
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: in July, it'll probably make them more comfortable pitching five

792
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: innings in August and then maybe six in September if

793
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: you actually need them, or they can still pitch three

794
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: if that's what the roster calls for. And I do

795
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: think part of this conversation is that I think Stearns

796
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: wants to keep the chips in front of him just

797
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: in case the deal comes along. Possibly trade one of

798
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: those guys at the deadline. I don't think that's likely,

799
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: but a team, a losing team would want them more

800
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: so if their clocks have not been started yet and

801
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: they don't have to add them to their forty man

802
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: rosters immediately when they trade for them. That part of

803
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: it makes sense. That part of it we left out

804
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: last episode, so gonna hand up on that one. We're

805
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: pissy after that double Heather, But I do like this too,

806
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: and it was nice to have a game we're not

807
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: even thinking about the bullpen. No, that felt good. His

808
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: bullpen's pitch.

809
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: A got of people who watched baseball in the sixty

810
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: seventies eighties. You have no idea how you had it.

811
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: You know, you were like, oh, we got one guy

812
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: in the bullpen. He's gonna throw a three out or

813
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: three innings save if we need them. If not, the

814
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: starter's gonna go the entire game, not thinking about matchups

815
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: or who's gonna come into the game. I think the

816
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: most relaxing thing ever as a baseball fan.

817
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: It was such a pleasure. I was hanging out with

818
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: a guy or any on a Saturday, We're dual screening

819
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: the Mets game and the futures game at the same time,

820
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: and somehow Christy Matthewson came up. I don't know why.

821
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how. First of all, something set in

822
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: saying to think about how old Christy Mathewson. Christy Mathewson

823
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: died in nineteen twenty five. He died in nineteen twenty five.

824
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: That's how long ago he has. How long ago he's

825
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: been dead, one hundred years he's been dead. He still

826
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: has all time major league records. Were we talking, why

827
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: know Christy Madison came up?

828
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: But there was a gentleman's rulers that Walter Johnson I

829
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: think Walter Johnson the gentleman's hurler.

830
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: Maybe Christy Madison. I'm not sure Matthewson came before he

831
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: was the New York Giants guy. Though there was one

832
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: year where he won thirty seven games and he made

833
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: like forty four starts and like ten relief appearances. He

834
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: had thirty seven wins and something like eight saves. I

835
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: was like, that, that's what baseball, that's why he's meant

836
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: to be.

837
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: Played gentleman's hurler. Christy Mathewson confirmed that was it. He's

838
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: got the gentleman's hurler, Christy Madison.

839
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: But again, I think in a perfect world, I do

840
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: like conceptually some of these guys piggybacking with each other,

841
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: especially with Holmes, like I don't know how many more

842
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: than five and aving to get from Clay Holmes the

843
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: rest of the season. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna

844
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: be really difficult.

845
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: Just like you said, he's reached the most hittings by

846
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: far he's ever thrown in a professional season. And while

847
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 2: I think he still looks strong, I think he had

848
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: another third shouting the stuff looks great. I don't see

849
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: anything diminishing. There does have to be some sort of

850
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: plan for this, because we just know that the human

851
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: arms can't really just all of a sudden throw one

852
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty innings after you've thrown sixty every year,

853
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: let's your seth Luca.

854
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: I think Clay Holmes is one of the arms that

855
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: can because like he's so fucking big. He's huge as

856
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: of bosses lately, he's he is I'm gonna phrase this,

857
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: he has so many high leverage innings that I do

858
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: feel like the seventy that he was throwing isn't like

859
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: a natural seventy, Like I don't think his seventy and

860
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Waddell is seventy that he's going to wind up.

861
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: This star going to look the same at the end

862
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: of the season, like in the way and tear they

863
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: put on your body. And also like if we were

864
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: seeing significant drops in velocity from Klay Holmes, I would

865
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: be right there, like I think he should maybe move

866
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: to the bullpen now, but we're not. He's still touched

867
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: ninety seven in this game, and he's still sat in

868
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: ninety four ninety five, Like if that is the Clay

869
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: Holmes he's till and again it's still by the last inning.

870
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: He dropped down ninety one ninety two, but he's had

871
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: this huge gradient all season, and I honestly think that

872
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: we're seeing better command of a sweeper as the season

873
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: goes on. He was front dooring that sweeper to the

874
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: to the righty's in this game, something we haven't seen

875
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: him done much this season, and there were a couple

876
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: I think he had SOUTHI or mikelto like buckle back,

877
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, damn, like that. Clay hasn't

878
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: had that in his bag this season. So he's still

879
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: doing the things that we wanted him to do always,

880
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's fine. But I also just think

881
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: that that being said, like he's he's stuck between seventy

882
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: and ninety pitches at this point. We just have to

883
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: expect accept that going forward, and that means we can't

884
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: really do these piggybacks. I think this is just a

885
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: rare thing because of the All Star.

886
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: Break, and also hopefully when things are going right, when

887
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: we have Naya and Sango at their full strength, those

888
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: guys can go six seven innings. It takes less off

889
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: of the bullpen. The bullpen can be more focused and

890
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: used in these Clay home starts.

891
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: And hopefully you get another reliever or two. Is the

892
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: trade deadline comes up. A lot of trade light deadline

893
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: content for you guys too. Also, just because the Mets

894
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: lost this game, I don't want it to be lost

895
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: that that ninth inning comeback was incredible, great doubt was

896
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: a sensational fucking moment.

897
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: What happens with the Mets put major league hitters in

898
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: the lineup. It's not Louis Frenz and the Luis and

899
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 2: Helkunya taken that path.

900
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: And this is echoing some of the things that we

901
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: were critical about with Carls Mendoza in the episode after

902
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: There's Double Heather, where just because Louis on Hellicuny is

903
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: here doesn't mean he has to be hitting as often

904
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: as he's hit. And with that being said, Louison Helacunia

905
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: had huge moments on defense in this series, especially in

906
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: the game on Saturday. I still have with Tyrone Taylor.

907
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Tyrone Taylor made an exceptional catch in the n eighth

908
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: inning of that game, I think or anything, I'll remember

909
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: which one on that game on Saturday that did get

910
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: washed away because of all the other stuff, and Tyrone

911
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: has hit better of late, but he is he is.

912
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: We know they hit it that Tyrone Taylor is Again

913
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: that being said, when we can have that righty come

914
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: in and you can have Jeff McNeil come up, and

915
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: you could have Ryan Riso switch switch to the left

916
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: side and then Brett Baity take good at bat but

917
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: not come through. Jared Young with a huge sacrifice for everyone.

918
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Loved that one. Jared Young's world, We're all living in it.

919
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: It was really nice to see that rally and this

920
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: team just battle their way back. I know they lost

921
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: the last thing that kind of did screwed up a

922
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: little bit, but that was very fun. That was a

923
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: fun moment.

924
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: I keep going back to with Louis on Helocunya a

925
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: common I meant it earlier in the year where I

926
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: and I think it might be even more true now

927
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: where I was like, I still weirdly feel like he's

928
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: most valuable and most useful on this team as a

929
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: spark pluging defense, pinch runner. If he gets in that

930
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: bat late in the game, he kind of just happens to.

931
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: But that is the role I think he needs to

932
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: be used in. I'll be honest, I don't think he

933
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: can be starting games right now. When the Mets are

934
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: trying to be competitive and fighting for the NL's crown,

935
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: because he's just the bats are really really bad, like

936
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: they've gotten way, way, way worse. And he looks a

937
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: little poudy too, or a little bit upset, little little

938
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: a little pissy, that's a good word.

939
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: He looks a little pissy.

940
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: The defense is still phenomenal, and I think at the

941
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: end of the days, Luisan Helakunya should be playing second base.

942
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: He should be in the game.

943
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: He has a great glove and he turned he turned

944
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: great double plays. Him and Bobby Wood Junior today you

945
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: never see. I wonder how many times in Bobby Wood

946
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: Junior's career he's grounded out twice into a double play

947
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: in the same game.

948
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: I have a stafi coming into this game. He went

949
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: ground into one double play all season, So we got

950
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: twice in one game. We've gotten twice. We doubled up

951
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: his down double plays the entire season. In this game,

952
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: he's the fastest guy in baseball. Bobby Wood. See Bobby

953
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: Wood Junior's weekends like he's just electric plays in the field.

954
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: On the flip side, Ronnie Maurisio needs to play so much.

955
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: He's so good.

956
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm really starting to like get excited about what we're

957
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: seeing from Ronnie. I feel like anecdotally, he's being more patient,

958
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: he's laying off those curveballs and sliders out of the

959
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: zone a little bit more, and I feel like he's

960
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: making more consistent contact. And the double that he had

961
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: today was that that was a loud liner where the

962
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: guy playing left field thought that ball was hit right

963
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: at and then he turned around like, oh shit, over

964
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: my head, hits off the wall. I'm really excited about

965
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: Ronnie Mauricio.

966
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: And this was the whole thing we always talked about Mauricio.

967
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: It's like he's physically capable of doing things not many

968
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: of their humans on Earth are physically capable of doing.

969
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: And that's kind of always the thing that we hang

970
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: our hats on with Ronni Ricio because he can is

971
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: he special, He has special oness inside of him, and

972
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: I do think that it has been a bit of

973
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: a winding road for him to get to this point.

974
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: But what you were just saying is not anecdotal. Ronnie

975
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: Maricio is more patient to play. He is while he's

976
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: still swinging a similar amount, he is chasing less. We're

977
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: about a fifteen game stretch. Right now, Ronnie Maricio has

978
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: been well better than the gabage with his chase rate. Yeah,

979
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: which is shocking, I think, to say the least from

980
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: where Ronnie Maricio came. But where it's a it's a

981
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: good spots. It's trended up differently different directions, but it's

982
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: not been untenable at all, and that's come with him

983
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: actually swinging more often it pitches inside the strike zone.

984
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: There was a great piece by ptyu was Dicomo a

985
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: few days ago that he has just been at once

986
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: so thos Hip and those have been the guys. He's

987
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: been very vocal to Ronnie Maurisio a lot of times,

988
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: spoke up, spoke up in the players only meeting, and

989
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge thing for a young player.

990
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: We hear never hear baseball players do content. They talk

991
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: about players only meetings. They're like, yeah, I hope you're

992
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: you're hoping one veteran speaks up and you know none

993
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: of the rookies will. Yeah, ron Marisio is like, fuck it,

994
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk like I been around the clubhouse for

995
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: a while and he's someone that again he can do

996
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: things on a baseball field that other people can He's

997
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: been sick at their base, hilariously good at their base.

998
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: He hits the ball so fucking hard. Now if his

999
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: play discipline is even average and all these tools can

1000
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: actually play up, like, you have a chance to see

1001
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: someone who can be like a spark We talked about

1002
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: Luis l'cooney and the spark plug and like the traditional

1003
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: term spark plug, you know what I mean, small fast,

1004
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: can't really hip, but you call him smart spark plug

1005
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: to be nice. Ronny Musa could be a spark plug,

1006
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: like with Viano's was a spark plug last year. Was like,

1007
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: you can now put him sixth at fifth in the

1008
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: order and he can win you. He can win you games.

1009
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: He could fuck he could fox somebody up. He ca

1010
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: fuck him his day up. And that's that's the kind

1011
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: of the hope of Ryan Riso. And I tweeted it,

1012
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm threatening it right now because Ryan Riso does have

1013
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: an option, and he's someone that has multiple options. If

1014
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: ron Reisa get sent down with the roster crunch of

1015
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: that habits for the team after the break and we

1016
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: get Marte and Winker back and we have to figure

1017
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: out what's going on with the Kunya and Baby and

1018
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: Viento's this year, I will go on hunger strike. I will.

1019
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: I'll go for I'm forty eight hours. I will not

1020
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: that if Ronny Risio goes down to the minor leagues

1021
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: without and then we'll have to You'll be the judge

1022
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: of this. An untenable increase in the chase rate. Okay,

1023
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: because right now he is so clearly and obviously one

1024
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: of the better position players on like of the infield

1025
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: options in this team. He has to be in the

1026
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: lineup as much as possible. I still don't really love

1027
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: him the lineup against the lefties. I still think righty,

1028
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: he is kind of lost. But he had actually couple

1029
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: decent bats. And it's no camera in this game too,

1030
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: where I was like this, actually, it doesn't even look

1031
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: that bad anymore, and even a couple of like f

1032
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: tips where he was like he's fighting with two strikes,

1033
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: getting down the counter early, but still managing to get there.

1034
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: He plays seventy six mile on hour swing. I know,

1035
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: cameraon ball in the first inning for his singles like

1036
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: there is there's crazy growth happening quickly with Ryan Risio.

1037
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: When you see shit like that that's when the intennas

1038
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: go up. You're like, this could be a.

1039
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: Guy, yeah, and Mets could use it. Mets could definitely

1040
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: use it. Ron Marissio being having a guy quality player

1041
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: would be really fucking sweet for this team.

1042
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: Changes his entire next to this team. That's also why

1043
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: the marketing has a conversation keeps getting tighty because of

1044
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: where where can you the spot to play? Where do

1045
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: you play? And you don't have a fucking option, Thank you,

1046
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: Billy Uppler. I also think that the guy that we're

1047
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: really going to try to pedal in trades is going

1048
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: to be luise On Helicunya, Yes, because that we were

1049
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: dying to trade him basically has no options and he

1050
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: still has no option. Yes, but he can't go back

1051
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: down to the minor leagues this year, correct, So he

1052
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: has no options.

1053
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: So theoretically you think they'd move him for like a

1054
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: whatever reliever.

1055
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: You think it's one of those kind of things kind

1056
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: of yeah, because he's valuable right now to another team

1057
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: where this is again where the game of baseball gets

1058
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: not that fun so much to the draft. For what

1059
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: you're going to talk about, you guys in a few minutes,

1060
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: where if you treat Louis and Helicunia too, for lack

1061
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: of a better term, a bad team, and you let

1062
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: him play the rest of the year in the Major

1063
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: League the Rockies. The Rockies would kill to have him.

1064
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: Jake Berd for Louis and Helaicunya, I awesome, I tied

1065
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: the papers right now. I'll drive him to Colorado. But

1066
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: then next year, Louis and Helicunia starts the season the

1067
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: minor leagues after finishing this season the major leagues. Then

1068
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: you've preserved a whole another year of Louis and Hellicunia

1069
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: development for a guy that's still young, and then still

1070
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: flash legitimate tools at multiple high value positions on defense.

1071
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: And somehow, some way, for two weeks last year, September

1072
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: was a power hitter. I don't know why that happened.

1073
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: I have no, no fucking clue, but like that's a

1074
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: we're really trying to thread the needle right now, and

1075
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: I think that that is the hope for David Sterns

1076
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: over these next few weeks that you probably can turn

1077
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Louis and Helicunia to someone that delivers some value to

1078
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: this major league team this season.

1079
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's definitely trying to thread the needle because uh,

1080
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: last time. Yeah, because last thing we'll mention here before

1081
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: we get into the media. Mark and a little bit

1082
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: of Joonah tongue talk and MLB Draft. Al has hit

1083
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: more home runs. He did it off of Andrew Painter,

1084
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: who's a Major league pitcher basically down in Triple A

1085
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: for the Phillies.

1086
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: He's looking awesome.

1087
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: The exit velos have been awesome, The power has been awesome.

1088
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: I saw the met's community tab.

1089
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: On Twitter is like one of the craziest places on Earth,

1090
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: and shout out to you for keeping it somewhae positive

1091
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 2: with your game notes and not being assessed pool guy.

1092
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: But someone was like, I think we lost Alvarez. Guys,

1093
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: he's hitting two to twenty. It's like he has eight

1094
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: home runs in fourteen games. Are we fucking serious?

1095
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: Well, the tweet actually was I sent this to you

1096
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: and I really couldn't believe this. I was reading it. Uh,

1097
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: scrolls we got to meet here this weekend? Geez ridiculous.

1098
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: What else we got in there? I think we could share?

1099
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: Not really maybe one day, definitely not right now. The

1100
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: lot of Anthony Volpi talk, which was fun, It's fair.

1101
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Where was that DM? About the is the Parala lines?

1102
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: I texted to you, did you man, this.

1103
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: Is really good podcasting now because that'd looking for it

1104
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: while we're on Twitter.

1105
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Did you send it to me from for met stop?

1106
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I send you for Mets tub Yes, okay, I almost

1107
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: loaded up the medium Marvel. We got that guy starting

1108
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: to read it. Yeah, you read it.

1109
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: So this guy named Floyd, pretty boy Floyd, which is

1110
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: an unreal He follows me, all right, what's up? Floyd

1111
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: Alfarez is bat in two hundred and triple A. It

1112
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: might be over, which that's insane, especially when we see

1113
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: the power numbers. He's just doing the Eric Shavis. I

1114
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: don't know if that was like a like meta joke

1115
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: about like the Eric Shavis thing, because he hit all

1116
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 2: those home runs but he didn't have a high average

1117
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: and Travis said he had a shit season, which that'd

1118
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: be sick if that was the meta joke. But shout

1119
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: out to guy on the couch who also follows me. Wow,

1120
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: we might see Parada.

1121
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: Can't believe a Mets fan follows you. You'll have ninety

1122
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: thousand of us. Whatever.

1123
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: We might see Puranda move past al for Rest soon,

1124
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: I'll be trending down in PARAA trending upward both.

1125
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: The same age. Couldn't believe it. That's like that when

1126
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: you when you wrap around that comm and you get

1127
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: to the just you're the same age comment, that's when

1128
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: you kind of realize this. But this is a good

1129
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: lead into the medium marvel this week. Uh, we had

1130
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: a couple other ones planned again, but they're not that

1131
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: timeline anymore. So we're still we're still keeping our eyes out.

1132
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: We know who we're looking at, they know they're looking

1133
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: at us. We know who. We know who we're going

1134
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: to get eventually back up to the uh Michael k

1135
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: memorial Media Marvel of the week, But this one goes

1136
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: to someone named Code Duncan at Code Duncan pg H.

1137
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: He is a Pittsburgh Pirates blogger. That's his bio. Seems

1138
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: like he seems like might be the Pirates version of me.

1139
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: For being honest here for a second, I feel very similar.

1140
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: He had the tweet on Friday morning, would you make

1141
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: this trade if you were the Pirates Mitch Keller to

1142
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: the Mets, Ryan Ratio to the Pirates, and Jonah Tan

1143
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: to the Pirates. How do I here and make it?

1144
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: If I'm a Pirates fan? Like, yes, yes, yes, Mauricio.

1145
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: MLB stats twenty five games, two forty four average, three

1146
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: eleven on base four twenty seven slug tongue double A

1147
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: stats fifteen stars one point a three e r A

1148
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: And I'm proud of all of us Mets fans because

1149
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: we flooded this guy's We flooded this guy's response and

1150
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: I ratioed him. He got quote tweeted to hell. He

1151
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: deleted his reply to me because he rot he really

1152
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: sound a bitchy? Did you really delete it? He deleted

1153
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: his reply to me where he was like, oh, duda dog, like,

1154
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: this guy's not proven, Like what do you think about this? Yeah?

1155
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean I was being like very respectful to him.

1156
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I just don't think he realized how

1157
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: good Jonah Tong is. And I think that that was

1158
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: true for a lot of people in the world until

1159
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: Saturday where Jonah Tong walked into the Futures game and

1160
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: just light it on five. Joan Tong, I think watching

1161
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: that whole game was one of the most impressive players

1162
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: that stepped on the field. I think it was Tong. Jorangelo,

1163
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: I'll not say his name since Changa jor Angelo, Sanja

1164
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: and then josuoit Depolo who had the big hit, and

1165
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: then Lou James Gruver all over the field is too

1166
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: he was crushing the ball. And then I think own

1167
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: Casey as well. But Tong from the pitching side looked

1168
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: fucking unbelievable. I clipped a strikeout he had Harry Ford.

1169
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: He threw him a three to two curve ball. But

1170
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: balls on Jonah Tong to throw Harry Ford, who's basically

1171
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: a major league at this point. He'll be up this

1172
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: second half of the Marinis for sure be the new

1173
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: backup catch of the cal Raley whenever they put Mitch

1174
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: Garver out the past year. But it's to get to

1175
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: a three to two count against again Harry Ford. Great

1176
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: prospect dock in the door being a major leagueitherer, I

1177
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: think we'll be a plus major leg Heather when he

1178
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: gets there to drop that three hammer on him low

1179
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: in the zone two where he think he's maybe be

1180
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: expecting a change up, he should probably thought he could

1181
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: go and get a fastball. That's not even Tong's best

1182
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: secondary pitcher anymore. The change up has passed it. It

1183
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: was a disgusting move, and Tong was like giggling to

1184
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: himself after he did it. Harry Ford even looked back

1185
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: at him like bug eyes, but holy shit, I can't

1186
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: believe you just did that.

1187
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: But who was who's announcing the game? Was Lance on

1188
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: the mics? Whoever was talking about like that is just

1189
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: really unfair, Like how do you throw that through a

1190
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: guy in this game? That's messed up?

1191
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: Jonah Tong Also the most swings and misses for any

1192
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: pictuer in this game. Is everyone throwing winning at a time?

1193
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: With three that would be one of them. Jonah Tong

1194
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: also pushed up to ninety seven miles an hour, which

1195
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: is the top end of his like his losty gradient

1196
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: right there, like he you left this game. People are

1197
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: now paying much closer attention than Jonah Tong where he's

1198
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: The buzz is now fully here where we get this

1199
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: next graduation of the pitching prospects this coming off season.

1200
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Jonah Tong will get buzz. It's one of the best

1201
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: pitching prospects in baseball and he deserves to get that

1202
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: buzz very much.

1203
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 2: So. Apologies if we've talked about this on the podcast before,

1204
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: but I've recently been seeing the Tim linscom comp as

1205
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: a pitcher and I kind of fucking love it.

1206
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: Oh. I think that was either may or Jim Kallis

1207
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: thinks if they were the first one did that on pipeine.

1208
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: I love it. No, It's awesome because you see a

1209
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: guy like Tongue who is slight and he has, especially

1210
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: for a pitcher, just the skinniest little shoulders. It's the

1211
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 1: best way to described that, teeny tiny shoulders. That also

1212
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: another funny thing about Tongue. Since that, we've revamped all

1213
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: our players development or pro and amateur scouting with Steve

1214
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Cohen the last few years. I think he's the only

1215
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: high school pitcher we've drafted. He I believe is because

1216
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: and Ziegler. I think actually similar concept.

1217
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: Ziegler was technically Cohen era, but that was like the time.

1218
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's when you see Tongue pitch, it's like

1219
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: he gets so much of his body in there's so

1220
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: much twist in his midsection. We talked about this years ago,

1221
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: and we started talking about join to Tongue and about

1222
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: that great tip from Isaac Grothman, who Isaac he's makings.

1223
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: Isaac was making Mester rights on Twitter and now he's

1224
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: he's doing analytics for a major college baseball program. But insane.

1225
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: That's how quickly can happen. You guys are are interested

1226
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: in getting these baseball jobs, you gotta start putting your

1227
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: in your work public. But when he twists around, he

1228
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: comes over the top tongue has that fastball he's releasing

1229
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: directly above his head. It's so bizarre, and that's how

1230
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: he's able to get that's not even how. It's like

1231
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: he's able to get the amazing fastball shape in spite

1232
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: of that. And when he's now up to ninety six

1233
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: ninety seven miles an hour with that incredible verticala acshow

1234
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: on that pitch, like it's ridiculous. Now that he has

1235
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: two vertical downward vertical options drop off that Like, I

1236
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: don't know what stops him from being an impact pitcher

1237
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later.

1238
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: No, I was gonna text you this, but I wanted

1239
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: to say for the podcast. He is officially on my

1240
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: own tradeable list. You can't trade Jonah tong Yeah, you

1241
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: think so, can't trade him.

1242
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: Can't do it.

1243
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: I think what we saw there, there's like this weird

1244
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: thing going on. And I don't know if we're just

1245
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: readjusting of how we think about pitching. But We're seeing

1246
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: now that you don't need to be a starting pitcher

1247
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: that throws one hundred and two the entire game. You

1248
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: can sit in that ninety six to ninety seven spot

1249
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: and still be one of the best pictures in the game.

1250
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: We've seen Skeins take his velow down, We've seen a

1251
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: couple other guys Crochets taking low down, and you're still

1252
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: one of the best pictures in the game. Tom's got

1253
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: that ninety six to ninety seven that seems to be

1254
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: the sweet spot of like the fastball can still be

1255
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: an elite pitch and you can be a great pitcher.

1256
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: From what I saw in that small sample on TV

1257
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: in the Major League Stadium, I was like, I think

1258
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: I messed up when I said I trade Jonah Tong.

1259
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: I think we cannot trade this guy right now. That

1260
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: so something if you get like a super race, you

1261
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: could trade' Well, I thaying, I don't know who that

1262
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: is right now. It doesn't just give me a name.

1263
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: Just give me a name like Crochet.

1264
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, deal, I would have put him in the

1265
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: trade for Crochet, But I mean I'm not putting him

1266
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: in the trade for like a three. Like I'm definitely

1267
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: not playing the trade for Mitch Keller, sorry, Cody Duncan, but.

1268
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Not Sandy al Chontra either.

1269
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: No, definitely not at this point. Maybe twenty twenty one

1270
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: sandal Contra, yeah for sure. Maybe then yeah, But it's

1271
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: just it's like this is like we are approaching unicorn stuff.

1272
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: Like he's got a forty one percent track I raided

1273
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: as a twenty two year old Doubles. He's unproven, James.

1274
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: You know, you just see that unproven prospect. He's not

1275
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: on MLB pipeline top one hundred enough, No exactly, but

1276
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: like it's it's freaky shit. And the fact that this

1277
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: change up came a log to become a plus pitch

1278
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: if he can had one more thing. And I know

1279
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: that Jonan Tong is never really going to have any

1280
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: pitch that moves east to west because he just when

1281
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: you release the ball up here, you can't do it.

1282
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: But there has to be some kind of slide that

1283
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Speaker 1: he can develop out of that spot. There has to

1284
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Speaker 1: be I know there is.

1285
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't need thom because the curveball is neutral,

1286
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 2: but there's still so many walks is the problem because

1287
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: that curve.

1288
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: But I think is an easy a relatively easy take pitch,

1289
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: which I think is why Harry Ford is a shocked

1290
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: to see that in the future game is like, what

1291
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: the fuck is that? So I think everything is like,

1292
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: it's not going to throw that pitch two strikes, two

1293
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: or three bolls. I mean, there's no way. So I

1294
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: think that is one thing that still keeps him back.

1295
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: But that fastball on top of everything is just awesome.

1296
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: I think twenty two inches of ivy B from that

1297
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: slot and like now with again two legitimate secondary pitches,

1298
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: like because forty one percent k raid in double A

1299
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: has twenty two roles disgusting, and he still he hasn't

1300
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: even hit the roadblock besides that walk rate. But he

1301
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: even with that with a eleven percent walk rate, it's

1302
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: it's under whips under one because no one gets hit.

1303
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't fucking matter.

1304
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: And when and if you are going to strike out

1305
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: forty percent of guys ten percent walk rate with no hits,

1306
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: like literally doesn't matter at all.

1307
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: It's the Edwin Dia has conversation that we've had where it's.

1308
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: Like, doesn't really care about that walks because he strikes

1309
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: the next guy out.

1310
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: But again, major league heithers say, well, you can't. Yeah, no,

1311
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: of course.

1312
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: There's like how many successful pitchers in the walk ten

1313
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: percent of guys.

1314
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: It's like Snell and Code. Off the top of my head,

1315
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: one of them is a two TAYSI yoga war.

1316
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, but that is also Blake snell big thing, fastball, curveball,

1317
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: change up at first.

1318
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: Yes, and now he has the slider. No, the slider

1319
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: came along and the change up was bad. The slider

1320
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: came in, the slider got bad. It was always the

1321
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: fastball and curveball. That was always his thing. That was

1322
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: Nick Pollock always talked about that with Blake Snell, where

1323
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: it's just high fastballs and curveballs. But Snell's curveball does

1324
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: have a little bit more too plain from left because

1325
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: he's not he's not no one's own, no one's beside

1326
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: class now, no one's over the top his tongue. So

1327
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: maybe there is something to there, but it is just

1328
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: it's it was fun to watch him. Also want to

1329
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: shout out Tray Sat but she was also really really impressive.

1330
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: And I don't want the Blue Jays fans. I don't want

1331
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays fans to get on me again. We

1332
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: know there was he also looked really really good. Yeah,

1333
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's got some crazy good stuff. And

1334
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: also just a little funny story for you guys, Me

1335
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: and James, like thirty five minute episode, we're fifty minutes

1336
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: and I don't think we're even close to necessarily being done.

1337
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: Brand and Sproute has also been looking great in Triple A again.

1338
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: Yes, eighteen consecutive scorres innings for Brandon Spro games being

1339
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: caught by Francisco Alvarez. So I think it's a really

1340
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: fun caveat there, and it's just this is it's fun

1341
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: to watch this shit happen in real time because whenever

1342
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: we did these prospect reports all year, I was told

1343
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: well for us to even back backtracking it last year.

1344
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: The things that made me, especially in YouTube excited about

1345
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: Brandon Spro was like we saw someone with multiple secondary

1346
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: pitches who shouldn't have a problem with platoon splits coming

1347
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: up through the system get to the major leagues fast

1348
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: because there was a slider, it was a curve balls

1349
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: to change up and one hundred miles hour fastball with

1350
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: a sinker, Like fuck, yeah, the Mets tos s broke

1351
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: this sweeper. The sweeper has become a plus pitch. I

1352
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: think the the sweeper probably kind of fucked up his

1353
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: grips and his armslots for the other pitches. He lost

1354
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: those other pitches. Now those pitches are back, and those

1355
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: pitches are all good, and the sweeper in the sink

1356
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: are really good against the right of these and there's

1357
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: enough junk against the lefties. Now he looks really good again,

1358
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: like he's someone who I think does come up and

1359
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: still impact this team in the second half.

1360
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I think he's gonna have some beginnings for

1361
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: this team down the stretch, especially now that it seems

1362
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: to be he's.

1363
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Figuring it out.

1364
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna be huge, huge for this Mets rotation, even

1365
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: like you said, just to give Clay Holmes maybe an

1366
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: extra day even in a rotation for a spot start here,

1367
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: and there'd be huge to have spro be able to

1368
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: come up.

1369
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: Definitely. And there was a great thread to weekend by

1370
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: Aidan Lippincott at aiden lip BB Baseball Analytics for Teams

1371
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Elite through the Folow because it was a really good

1372
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: thread about sprote his usage and the different shapes release

1373
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: on those secondary pitches. So we'll be good if you

1374
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: guys look them up. I got a hundred thousand impresions.

1375
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: It was really good, really good thread. So just something

1376
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: look at it again. We do all you guys a

1377
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: big prospect report soon, I guess we'll do that. Might

1378
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: be that this week, week after some point in July.

1379
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, some port, maybe right before the trade deadline. Honestly,

1380
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: feels like that could be a good time to drop one,

1381
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: like give you guys, like, here's.

1382
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: All the prospects a week and a half before the

1383
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: trade deadlines. We could do another one after the trade

1384
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: deadline when that's what I'm saying.

1385
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, yeah, because we have the MLB draft stuff

1386
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: coming out later this week, because Day two is happening

1387
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: on the day that you guys are listening to this,

1388
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: so Day two will be finished. We'll know all the

1389
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: draft picks that the Mets make in their twenty rounds.

1390
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: Right now, we know that they took Mitch Voight at

1391
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: number thirty eight overall a second basement out of the

1392
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: University of Michigan, Go Go Blue?

1393
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: Is that what they say?

1394
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: You won't even say it, you will even repeat it.

1395
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: Did you see the fun move the goalpost stat that

1396
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: the University of Michigan's running with right now. They're the

1397
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: only university ever to have a first round pick in

1398
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: the NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB drafts in the same

1399
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: year because he came in at number thirty eight, and

1400
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: that technically is the first round pick for the New

1401
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: York Mets.

1402
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: Great technically a first round pick. I thought this fucking

1403
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: assholes all that they love to just move the goal

1404
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: plus that's all they do. But you guys might know

1405
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: Mitch Voyd from a really viral moment he had a

1406
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: few months ago where he slid headfirst into third base

1407
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: and then possibly not not knowing as allegedly allegedly snorted

1408
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: the third base foul line as if it was at

1409
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: white substance.

1410
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 2: Allegedly, yeah, cocaine. Maybe, I don't know, Like whatever you think, guys,

1411
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: you want, but cocaine.

1412
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: Cocaine could be cocaine. But Mitch Boyd.

1413
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: The thing that people like about Mitch Foyd and I

1414
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: got also a little inside scoop shout out Alex Denami

1415
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: red Sox fan that I've become friends with over time.

1416
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: His brother was Mitch Boyd's roommate at the University of Michigan.

1417
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: His little brother, and he said, the dude's got unbelievable

1418
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: amount of swag, extremely confident, really really talented player, and

1419
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: when you look at the numbers and you look the stuff,

1420
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: it's exactly what he is.

1421
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what a ceiling of Mitchwait can look like.

1422
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna trust Mets player development to figure out all

1423
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: this stuff, but he does seem to fit kind of

1424
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 2: what the Mets mold has been.

1425
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: For a lot of prospects recently on the hitting side. Yes,

1426
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: a lot of very smart people. I want to shot

1427
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: up my guy, MJD Analysis Mikey. He's not working with

1428
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: Baseball Perspectives doing all their draft stuff. He's fairy talented.

1429
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: Analysts been friendly with him on Twitter for a few years.

1430
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Immediately competence to the Carson Bench pick from last year,

1431
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: and it was similar traits and tools with Carson Bench,

1432
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: where there was really good raw power and they were

1433
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: very very good swing decisions. And then just coming off

1434
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: being a two way player. Mitch Voyd was a two

1435
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: way player up until last year, the twenty twenty four

1436
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: season at Michigan, and now this year he focused on

1437
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: hitting solely and he has moved around diamond a little

1438
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: bit does seem to have found a home at second base.

1439
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Seems athletic enough to stick there defensively long term, you know,

1440
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: not the most premium position on defense. Puss was definitely

1441
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: not a bad one to be good at to stay

1442
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: in the middle of the diamond.

1443
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: Still, maybe andros himinism and get MVP votes playing second

1444
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: based defense.

1445
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: So people will defend your twenty million dollars contract till

1446
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: the ends of Earth on Twitter because of your b

1447
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: war for one season for Jets fans had to get

1448
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: it in there. It's just a case, I say, I

1449
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: give you guys a trade Savage a tray Savage credit

1450
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: for how good he look in that game. But this

1451
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: is kind of the mold of what the Mets drafts

1452
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: guys have done las few year. It seems like they

1453
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 1: want these hitters that are a little bit more high floor,

1454
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: and I think that they're trying to in this system

1455
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: figure out some more stuff on the hitting side. We've

1456
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: done great with pitching development, I think we're still waiting

1457
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: for a couple of real hitter clicks. Carson Bench has

1458
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: a chance to be that. And this is a very

1459
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: similar idea where we probably do have to alter some

1460
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: swing path things with Mitch Voyd. He did struggle a

1461
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: bit with Veloci some advanced day that I saw, But again,

1462
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: you play in the Big ten, like, I don't really

1463
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: expect you to be that good against Vlassi. How there's

1464
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: not much lostit in the Big ten whatsoever. Look, if

1465
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: I got Dominic can zone, that's a real buck eye

1466
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: pas On right there. He's in the major leagues now.

1467
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: The managers had him wilting away in Triple A. Now

1468
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: he's like the second best, third best hit there in

1469
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: their team. But I think it's a it's a it's

1470
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: a good profile take when you don't have a high pick.

1471
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: And then with pick number one oh two, they took

1472
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: Antonio Jimenez, a shorts up out of the University of

1473
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: Central Florida, transferred from Miami after his freshman season, where

1474
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: he struggled was a east at UCF as a sophomore

1475
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: in over three hundred four hundred on base percent, double

1476
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 2: digit home runs. The eggs of Velos are slightly better

1477
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: than what Mitchvoit gave us. I think he had a

1478
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: max exagulo in college at like one point fifteen. Apparently,

1479
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: it's what people have been saying on Twitter at the combine,

1480
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: these guys had very very similar max exsit velos with

1481
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: wood bats round one oh eight, one oh nine range,

1482
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: which is not elite power. But that's about as hard

1483
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: as Nolan Aaronado's ever hit a baseball. In case you

1484
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: guys were wondering, that's always our if that's our big

1485
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: lit miss at Betcher, him and Alex Bregmant that's like

1486
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: as hard as those guys have ever hit a baseball.

1487
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: Him and as is a bit more of a swinger

1488
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: than Mitch Voit, he will chase a little bit more,

1489
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: but I think there is a little more potential in

1490
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: what that bat could look like power wise, and apparently

1491
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: inside the zone has elite back to ball skills. And

1492
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: shout out Joe Doyle. He does some of the best

1493
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: MLB draft content on the internet. He's one of his

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00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: five biggest leapers of the entire draft, so I like

1495
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: hearing that stuff. Joe's nailed some draft picks in the past.

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00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: And Tyler Jennings, who does great work for Just Baseball Media,

1497
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: he said that same thing about Mitch voy one of

1498
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: his biggest risers. Same with the baseball perspective guys, and

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00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: he was on Baseball America's Hitting the uh finding hither

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00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: sleepers through the data in the MB drafts. So both

1501
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: of these guys were well liked by a lot of

1502
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: the smartest people who make MLB draft content, and they

1503
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: are things and well, where we talk about that stat

1504
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: about Bregman Ornadough, that's the hardest I've ever hit baseball.

1505
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: The reason those guys were able to have their like

1506
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percentile outcomes in becoming these insane major league players.

1507
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: I guess Bregman did it because he was such a

1508
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 1: high pick anyway. But yeah, it's just pulling the ball

1509
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: and lifting the ball, and that's something that both of

1510
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: these hitters show that they could do in the minor leagues,

1511
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: which is in college. That was something that was different

1512
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: from bench. We needed him to figure out lifting and pulling.

1513
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: But that seems like he's gotten that now, especially crushing

1514
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: the ball double, which is amazing, so good. But even

1515
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: the season, Francisco Indor has even hit the ball one

1516
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: hundred ten miles now and he's still pacing to have

1517
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: one of the better power season of his career. So

1518
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: it's like the exit of lost that is important, but

1519
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: swing path, getting the back spin, like that's a very

1520
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: bored thing. It seems like if these guys at least

1521
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: are really good pieces to start out with, end the

1522
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: Mets hitting. Again, hitting in the Mets system is not

1523
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: that great. We definitely have a way more looks like

1524
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: major league caliber pitchers and hitters. At the moment, we

1525
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: probably have eight at least double A and triple A.

1526
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: We almost have too many good pictures right now, which

1527
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: is like kind of an insane problem to have. Jona

1528
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: Santucci's got with doublelane. He's already throwing. Officers can't believe

1529
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: how good that guy fucking looks right now. So it

1530
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: is something that it's a good thing, I think to

1531
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: get these high floor guys because with the contacts and

1532
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: with being winning baseball team, we're not going to have

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00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: high picks.

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00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: No, And it's also gonna be so valuable and have

1535
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: some free baseball players that can actually do things.

1536
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so valuable, and again hopefully these guys are

1537
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: getting more of them. Looks like Carson Magic could be

1538
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: major leaguer next year. Like if you're looking so if

1539
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: you're confronting these draft guys that quickly, I think that's

1540
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: the idea when you're taking these like quote unquote high

1541
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: floor college hitters, like that's the goal, that's the purpose.

1542
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: Did you see last thing I'll say here, I think

1543
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: before we wrap up the episode. I just saw like

1544
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: some interviews after the Futures game, because both benj and

1545
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: Tong were there. Bene talking about hitting in Brooklyn and

1546
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, the wind, I'm hitting into the beach.

1547
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: I'm hitting into the ocean every time, and my numbers

1548
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: still were good. I kept doing my same thing. It's

1549
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: really nice to play in Binghamton where I don't have that.

1550
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: So I thought that was really funny. And then Jonah

1551
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: Tong two things. One, he was his favorite baseball player

1552
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: ever James Mike Soroka. Mike Soroka ball no where I know,

1553
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: he said a brave which, of course, I mean he

1554
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: grew up in Georgia. If he wasn't a brave span

1555
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: and he said he wasn't, I almost feel like you

1556
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: don't like baseball.

1557
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't trust you.

1558
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: I of course he was a Braves fan, but Mike

1559
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: Soroka is his favorite player fucking ball nowhere right there?

1560
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: Well, he's necessary to say his favorite players. Who'd you

1561
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: like watching when you were growing up. In the fact

1562
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: that he said Mike Soroka. I was like, I'm good.

1563
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm gonna k k I am.

1564
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: But he also mentioned how he got to hang out

1565
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: with Sean and I and stuff when he was doing rehab,

1566
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: and he was like, Sean's a great guy. He's like,

1567
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: that's pretty much like the extended vid. He goes and

1568
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: I beat him in Super Smash Bros. He was like,

1569
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: nobody can take that back from me.

1570
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: He was like, that's nice. I was pissed off when

1571
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: someone didnt ask him whose characters weren't Smash I was like, yeah,

1572
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: who the man? Jonah. It's like, I don't think any

1573
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: of those baseball riterers have ever said that. But fun

1574
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: weekend of Baseball All Star Week coming up now. It's

1575
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: amazing how much MV drops the ball this All Star

1576
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: Week every single year. The fact that the Futures Game

1577
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: happened at four pm on Saturday during the Mets game.

1578
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: The draft was happening during Major League Baseball games, Like

1579
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: what the who's fucking scheduling this shit? Like, why is

1580
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: this happening? I got memo B I have to fix

1581
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: with you right now. I'm ready to go Sunday night

1582
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: Baseball Futures Game, seven o'clock ESPN. Have have Lance on,

1583
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: have all the prospect people you want on, get all

1584
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: this good prospect talk going on, because.

1585
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: People love prospects. Prospects are so cool, it's so much fun.

1586
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: Think about this, and most of these baseball teams out

1587
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: there fucking suck. So these people want to look to

1588
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: the future, and then you have the prospects to look

1589
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: forward to for that. So that's how you fix that.

1590
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: They do the Home Run Derby on Monday, the All

1591
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: Star Game on Tuesday, and then Wednesday night, do the

1592
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,479
Speaker 1: draft standalone event.

1593
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: No baseball games on TV, no college No players that

1594
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: were draft the MB Draft shut up to the draft

1595
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: this year.

1596
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: Can you believe that?

1597
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 5: That?

1598
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: And again, I know that's a lot of like the

1599
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: agent stuff. Scott Bors has never let his clients go

1600
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: to the draft. It's a postering things. It'sign your contracts.

1601
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: You don't want to give them the end you take

1602
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: that photo, wop they you lose leverage. Yeah, there has

1603
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: to be a way to work.

1604
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: This out and make this a better event, because especially

1605
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: with Major League Baseball, as we get to a point

1606
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: now and I think we're getting there when player development

1607
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: is getting so good and so efficient, we're getting these

1608
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: guys to the major leagues fast, like worse where there's

1609
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: going like I can't even believe it. But like a

1610
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: guy like Nick Kurts and guys like I got, like

1611
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: Chase Burns getting to the majors with less than a

1612
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: year of being drafted and being sick. Nick Curse is incredible.

1613
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: Nick Curs might win American League Rookie of the Year.

1614
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: He is, he might steal it.

1615
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: From Jacob Wilson, who's also having an incredible year and

1616
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: got called up basically the same year he got drafted

1617
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: as well.

1618
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: It's the fact that you're able to convert these college

1619
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: standouts into major league players within a year. There's a

1620
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: real opportunity for the MLB draft to gain so much

1621
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: buzz and so much team really quickly. The only thing

1622
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: stopping it is that the whole thing's kind of rushed,

1623
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of haphazard. It's happening during major league games.

1624
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's weird time, this whole All Star week.

1625
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: So again, pleading with Major League Baseball. We know you

1626
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: guys are listening to this play the futures game at

1627
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: the time people can watch it, not on Saturday at

1628
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: fucking four o'clock in the middle of summer, and do

1629
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: the hell be draft as still a standalone like stationary thing.

1630
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: I think that's it. That's all we got.

1631
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: For got Franky, Oh, Frankie Peppers, and I need to

1632
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: hear him right before the all start break.

1633
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: I need to know what he's got going on. Yeah,

1634
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: we missed Frankie last time because again we did the

1635
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: episode so fast. But I told him. I was like, FRANKI,

1636
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: you don't, don't waste your voice. We really recorded. He

1637
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: was like, thank you for telling me. But we got

1638
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: Frankie Peppers.

1639
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 5: Here we go, gentlemen, this is Frankie Peppers ain't doing.

1640
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: So I'm here at Cittyfield and I just realized the Men's.

1641
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 5: Are Away this this weekend that was gonna was gonna

1642
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 5: buy a ticket at the door the Menser away. So

1643
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 5: I'm at sitting Field and there's a lot of people here,

1644
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 5: like a lot of like very interestingly dressed folks. So

1645
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 5: I don't know what is going on, but I uh,

1646
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 5: I'll report back. I'm confused. I don't know what's happening,

1647
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 5: but I'll keep your boys updated. Pretty good series from

1648
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 5: these Mets, going into the All Star break with a

1649
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 5: series win. Seawan and Naya is back looking good. It

1650
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 5: won't close, happen, it happens, but we're looking good.

1651
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: Boys.

1652
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 5: I'm excited for the second half. Enjoy the All Star break.

1653
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 5: Then I'll talk to you boys. So let's go, Mets.

1654
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: Was Frankie Pepper's at the Lumineer's concert? I think was

1655
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: there more lo years tonight it was the same show.

1656
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1657
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: I listened to track the Lumineers after saying, people that

1658
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 2: listen to this podcast, but like the Lumineers, it's gotta

1659
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: be one of the five worst bands on the planet.

1660
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man Ophelia o'pheelia hit different, like in

1661
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: like twenty twelve, you see the clip of mister Mett

1662
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: just fucking eat it off the stage. Yeah, I mean,

1663
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: I always on my intent always goes up for that hickuse.

1664
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,479
Speaker 1: I know how much the Mets love a viral moment.

1665
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: But shout out our old high school class. Yeah, Jesse

1666
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: Finberg for living the video that went next. Yeah, yes,

1667
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: shout out Jesse forgetting that viral moment I'm there for

1668
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: mister Matt because that wound up doing fucking numbers this weekend.

1669
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I cackled what I saw it and shout out

1670
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 2: to the guy. That's where the mister met costume. We

1671
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: went out with them when we used to work with

1672
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: the team out in Port Saint Lucy one night.

1673
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: Nice people, really great people, great guys.

1674
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: Glad to see you didn't get hurt, because honestly, that

1675
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: was a vicious fall off the stage and the.

1676
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: Nice a little get up and like keep moving after that.

1677
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: And also mister Mett wearing like the millennial suspenders were

1678
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: chilling funny, That was funny. That was such a nice touch.

1679
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: A good job in that one for the Mets.

1680
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: But that's it, guys, thank you so much for listening

1681
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: watching this episode of the Mets. Of the podc asked

1682
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: web an MLB draft review recap coming out later this week.

1683
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: What was the other episode we're gonna do this week?

1684
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: Wed our third one full MLB draft recap. We're gonna

1685
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: go through every single pick. Get some day to figure

1686
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: that out, and then we're going to do with just

1687
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: a full second half preview. We're there. It goes through

1688
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: position by position. Guy by guy. We're gonna make our predictions.

1689
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna make some trade deadline stuff in there. We're

1690
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the prospects we think are going to

1691
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: debut and how to think they're going to play. But

1692
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: those will be the three episodes. The two other episodes,

1693
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: you guys get before Friday.

1694
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: So make sure you are subscribed to the YouTube channel

1695
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,959
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1696
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: If you want to listen to us, download subscribe, follow

1697
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: us over on there. If you want to follow James,

1698
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: you can follow him at James Shiado and I'm Draftnckmark

1699
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,479
Speaker 2: with the C. Thank you gus for listening watching. We'll

1700
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: catch you all on the next episode.

1701
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: Peace Out, peace out, guys, It's called METS

1702
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 2: Five.