Speaker 1: They get.
Speaker 2: Broadcasting line from Atlanta, Georgia. Welcome to The Ballers Show podcasts.
Speaker 3: I go by the name of I go by the.
Speaker 2: Name, you know, Beatt Big Bank in the building.
Speaker 1: We got the legend in the building.
Speaker 2: The legend Big Bank.
Speaker 1: How you doing, sir, man, I'm blessed, man. I love
Speaker 1: to be here. Man.
Speaker 2: It's good to see you.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm good to be seen.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to take it there for
Speaker 2: the people who you know, because we have listeners outside
Speaker 2: of Georgia. I think a lot of people outside of
Speaker 2: Georgia know who you are, or I know a lot
Speaker 2: of people outside of Georgia who you are. But for
Speaker 2: the people who are just potentially seeing you for the
Speaker 2: first time. Uh, east Side, Yes, sir, East Atlanta, that
Speaker 2: makes right. I've known Big Bank for a very long time.
Speaker 2: I was a fly on the wall with DJ Holliday
Speaker 2: and Greg Street for a very very long time, and
Speaker 2: I saw a big Bank, so I kind of wanted
Speaker 2: to had you come in here, man and tell you
Speaker 2: how much I have respect for you. I know BT
Speaker 2: does as well. And I've seen the growth from the
Speaker 2: floor level, you know, like like there next to you
Speaker 2: type of thing you know, and I'm just I just
Speaker 2: feel like it's a wonderful sight to see because I
Speaker 2: know the big bank. Like I was saying off camera,
Speaker 2: I don't think I would ever see you without gold teeth.
Speaker 1: He neither. I ain't never think I would take him
Speaker 1: out playing golf, hiking, hiking. Y'all gotta come out there
Speaker 1: to the height.
Speaker 2: No for sure, bro, because you know I'll be doing
Speaker 2: Store Mountain, but I gotta come to yours.
Speaker 3: Man, I did Store Mountain one time. Oh Man, I
Speaker 3: think I'll text you about this. Mountains Mountains is different.
Speaker 1: We did young on that ship. Is the hot, hardest
Speaker 1: hiking George. We just did last month.
Speaker 2: Not for sure, but this is a great thing because
Speaker 2: I mean, can I say it like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know, like what the best version of big
Speaker 2: Bang I like, because we're big baby talking that ship
Speaker 2: on Instagram. Man, it's just great.
Speaker 3: Yo. You used to be hilarious on Stagram.
Speaker 2: You're still I'm talking about it was.
Speaker 3: It was bad because like you would just say stuff
Speaker 3: that everybody was thinking, was thinking, but people wouldn't say it.
Speaker 3: You would get on Instagram you would be.
Speaker 2: Like this, like this was going on you had to
Speaker 2: lingo the flavor. I never I never forget the one
Speaker 2: time one thing was really funny and you just had
Speaker 2: like piles or Buddy. He was like, yea, I really
Speaker 2: won't talk about money, man, these are things I remember,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like he was like, literally,
Speaker 2: I don't know where he was at, but it was
Speaker 2: piles and piles and there wasn't no twenties and fifties either,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So now a lot of people don't really remember.
Speaker 1: Big Bank had a record deal for Sure Recordlatbel.
Speaker 2: You had a big deal for Sure.
Speaker 1: And we did three deal.
Speaker 2: You had three years, but you had a solo this
Speaker 2: deal first correct for correct me and then Boo yeah
Speaker 2: Boo did it Boo.
Speaker 1: Did the deal over at Depth Jam. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: at death Jam.
Speaker 2: He signed you. And is that how duct tape was
Speaker 2: created then?
Speaker 1: Or was our hell? Duct tape was created two thousand
Speaker 1: and four, two thousand and five men, my partner Villa
Speaker 1: so So so we started a label just you know,
Speaker 1: because everybody else had label Gucci, them had so Icy
Speaker 1: and Jesus and them had you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we were like ship this the New Way started recordlabel,
Speaker 1: so we started recordating me and Social just fuck around.
Speaker 1: He one of us never rapped before. We were just trying.
Speaker 1: And then uh shout out to Ali come home, Eli
Speaker 1: boy come home. He was he was always a rapper
Speaker 1: since a kid. So that's when we started taking the series.
Speaker 1: I got two partners. I got a partner from from
Speaker 1: the Four Way named is Dot and west Side Ricky,
Speaker 1: and we just you know what I'm saying, Ali Alie
Speaker 1: ended up being like a extraordinary artist, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Then Trouble come home and they both was popping,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But then they both get
Speaker 1: locked up the same day. Wow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I dropped a song that ship ended up being.
Speaker 2: A hit song. So the first song you ever did
Speaker 2: or that that you dropped was tried out.
Speaker 1: Yes, Wow, first song that ever put out was tried out.
Speaker 1: I recorded at Candy House. Long Little AJ was I
Speaker 1: was over there, fuck with AJ. AJ was like, bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta do it now.
Speaker 2: That was her dude that passed away. Yeah, that's like
Speaker 2: my party from outside the body Tap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that Long Little AJ. But we was
Speaker 1: at Candy house in the back she had the studio.
Speaker 1: AJ like, bro, you gotta rap. So I dropped the
Speaker 1: song can heard and like, man, I'm finna get on that.
Speaker 1: This is a hit. We put that motherfucker shout out
Speaker 1: the m l K. I took that ship to Crucial
Speaker 1: on Monday. You played the motherfucker and you know you
Speaker 1: got a hit when the DJ like won't give you
Speaker 1: CD back. They was see the back then You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm keeping it. So the rest with his I set
Speaker 1: it up to the point where call the buzz and
Speaker 1: buzz around the Southeast, ad to get out, take a
Speaker 1: buzz and crazy. He was already buzzing. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: like he had already had a buzzing. He get out.
Speaker 1: He gets signed first to Atlantic. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They called him, they called him the whole label. But
Speaker 1: we get Alice signed first to Atlantic. Then I get
Speaker 1: signed to death Jaim, then fast forward Truble, go to Trouble,
Speaker 1: go to So it was like, yeah, we had a
Speaker 1: lot of success coming up out of his own sick
Speaker 1: now mental that's crazy, Yeah for real. I just think
Speaker 1: it was written.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, That's why I think it happens like
Speaker 3: when stuff is meant to be is meant to be
Speaker 3: because a lot of people they always wandered. Like I
Speaker 3: feel like the people that want to be famous real bad,
Speaker 3: it's never gonna happen. There's always the people that accidentally
Speaker 3: get famous or didn't want to be famous, ends up getting.
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't want to be no rapper, Like I
Speaker 1: couldn't keep going. I just couldn't do that ship because
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Throw up and stuff before I
Speaker 1: go on state.
Speaker 3: Really, Oh you was that nervous?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just anxiety, just fucking being in them clubs. I
Speaker 1: ain't ever liked that shit, so I always try to
Speaker 1: push them up, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 1: they got out, I was buzzing crazy, like try it
Speaker 1: out going through the roof. I stopped. We were like
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen thousand show me and Jade. I just hey,
Speaker 1: don't take them mo boocket, I just stop. Damn.
Speaker 2: You messed me up with that one because I was
Speaker 2: finna go lead some what now were you still you know,
Speaker 2: one foot in the street but then still doing music?
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: trying to fund the music shit. It took took the
Speaker 1: street money. You know what I'm saying. For sure back then,
Speaker 1: so and I don't think nothing never worked for me
Speaker 1: until like cold Turkey the streets, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like trying to be in the streets and do the
Speaker 1: music shit, that shit don't work.
Speaker 2: How difficult is it to cold Turkey the streets shit.
Speaker 1: That shit damn there impossible. The people who do it,
Speaker 1: I take my head off to I take my head
Speaker 1: out to me.
Speaker 2: Because cold Turkey means it just stop immediately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you got a lot of people that depend
Speaker 1: on you. You know what I'm saying, People that this
Speaker 1: all they know. So it's like you damned it a
Speaker 1: close them out, you know, turned off they water basically,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Niggas be mad by this shit.
Speaker 3: Now what about what about like it is it hard
Speaker 3: in the sense of also like the money is just
Speaker 3: so fast and it's so easy to get, and then
Speaker 3: you gotta be like, you know, okay, let me go
Speaker 3: get on this road and go get this fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3: I can just stay in the streets and I can
Speaker 3: get this.
Speaker 1: Make a humble see different.
Speaker 2: My question to you is, I know people like you
Speaker 2: and the statue. You provide structure for anything that you
Speaker 2: put yourself into. When you remove yourself from that, the structure,
Speaker 2: if it doesn't have something sustained or someone like yourself
Speaker 2: to sustain it, it crumbles.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Is that what happened when you went cold Turkey? Oh?
Speaker 1: No? Or zero had to go to zero, had to
Speaker 1: go to zero? You know what I'm saying. We spent
Speaker 1: all the money. You know, because you have a little
Speaker 1: money saved up, you try to put that in. You
Speaker 1: put that in. But I think I don't think you
Speaker 1: do nothing clean. Some niggas can, some niggas can't. When
Speaker 1: you I feel like when you tapped in, bro, God
Speaker 1: ain't gonna allow you to use no dirty money, make
Speaker 1: it clean unless you stay dirty. That's how I feel
Speaker 1: because it's like I had to fuck up all that
Speaker 1: street money in order to get some real money out
Speaker 1: this industry.
Speaker 3: Shit. Now, what was the life changing What was the
Speaker 3: life changing or moment for you where you was just like, man,
Speaker 3: I gotta you know, I gotta do something different because
Speaker 3: you know, you had a big reputation in the city
Speaker 3: and just just period like you had you had a
Speaker 3: big reputation. So how hard was it to make that transition? Like, Man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get this industry money. I'm must get out
Speaker 3: the streets. I'm gonna get more healthy. I'm gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: like your whole image has changed.
Speaker 1: Uh shit, nigga got old. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Old niggas start having grandkids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You folks start talking about recoacting all that shit. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, sh nigga better change.
Speaker 3: I like this.
Speaker 2: I like that you said that. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: a privilege to get old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 2: I don't take offense when you don't like old. Hey, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: you gotta make it on this side. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: make it to here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why people the only people afraid to get old.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying my camera.
Speaker 1: I'm forty one, Okay, I'm forty six. I'll be forty
Speaker 1: seven this shit. Okay. I feel better. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: better as an old nigga than I felt that was
Speaker 1: a young nigga. Man crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My spirits settled. Okay.
Speaker 2: So what's the first thing that you did to say man, okay,
Speaker 2: because I know you got to provide structure around your life,
Speaker 2: so you know what what happened to you?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: I want to bring it there, but I want to say,
Speaker 2: maybe you're gonna say it Big Facts was big facts.
Speaker 2: The first step into that direction. I felt like it
Speaker 2: was still big bag a big facts.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah facts.
Speaker 1: No, what it was was the first step was physical
Speaker 1: and the folks started telling me that I needed You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I need to take twelve sixteen
Speaker 1: pills for the rest of my life and all that
Speaker 1: those shit on borderline diabetic, borderline borderline fucked up about
Speaker 1: to check out. So then I get on big facts,
Speaker 1: matter of fact, get on big facts. And how did
Speaker 1: that start? It started because we had the ship show.
Speaker 1: We were promoting the shit show. Well it really started.
Speaker 1: Let me let me take it back. It started. Future
Speaker 1: asked me to interview him because we used to have
Speaker 1: a conversations and shit, he'd be like, bro, you be
Speaker 1: asking questions. I wish the nigga who interview acts. So
Speaker 1: he had me interview him for his album. Album came out.
Speaker 1: It led up. It's still on Apple Music. It was
Speaker 1: like an hour leading up to the album and the
Speaker 1: album drop. You know, I ain't thinking that of it
Speaker 1: because we just having a conversation and we shout out
Speaker 1: to Hannah Pat you know what I'm saying. We started
Speaker 1: the Ship Show. We just because I was already throwing
Speaker 1: party like no cap parties and all that ship taking
Speaker 1: over the city with no parties. But we started ship
Speaker 1: called the Ship Show. And me and Hannah went to
Speaker 1: the radio station to Scream screen radio station. What station
Speaker 1: was on there? Yeah, which ever one it was. We
Speaker 1: went up there and Scream was like, Bro, I like
Speaker 1: the interview did with Bro? You ever thought about doing
Speaker 1: a podcast? I'm like, what the fuck is a parkast?
Speaker 1: I never even heard of a partcare. So he was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm tell you it'll be good at it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: People people listen to you online and ship man, people
Speaker 1: fuck with you. So I told him, bro where that
Speaker 1: that should make money. He was like here, yeah, that
Speaker 1: ship made money. I was like, you put it together,
Speaker 1: We'll do it. He put it together. We did it,
Speaker 1: went in there the first time. It was so raw,
Speaker 1: first couple of first year to I ain't know nothing
Speaker 1: about no pub I'm just in there speaking my mind.
Speaker 1: When people love that.
Speaker 2: Ship man, he was getting clipped up, Bro, because I
Speaker 2: felt like it was good to see you. Because I
Speaker 2: also feel like you really got to be tapped in
Speaker 2: with somebody to.
Speaker 1: Be able to ask them a specific question. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I feel like you and you can ask Future
Speaker 2: a little bit more than me, and I can ask
Speaker 2: Future a little bit more than BT only because I
Speaker 2: was around, but you know him since he was young,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I feel like those
Speaker 2: interviews were so organic. You was calling niggas out.
Speaker 3: I loved y'all interview. It was it was certain questions
Speaker 3: that I was like.
Speaker 1: Damn, Bank really asked that. But I had to back
Speaker 1: up from a lot of this sh niggas start against
Speaker 1: scared to come on now?
Speaker 2: Bro was listen, Bro, y'all was slapping boom boom boom.
Speaker 2: It was almost like hit records every time you interviewed somebody.
Speaker 1: And they was calling us to get on it. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie like like, Bro, I want to do
Speaker 1: big facts, you know what I'm saying. Like it was
Speaker 1: some ship bring new to the streets though, and so
Speaker 1: Scream helped me change my life a lot, though.
Speaker 2: How did you scream?
Speaker 1: Scream?
Speaker 2: Does that when my camera scre does that, We're gonna
Speaker 2: have scream on here.
Speaker 1: Tom.
Speaker 2: Every time I talk the scream, I get a whole.
Speaker 3: Scream gonna get you. He gonna give you game, and
Speaker 3: he gonna tell you about experience he experienced, and he
Speaker 3: gonna say this is what you do if your rational thinker.
Speaker 2: He's a very rational thing. Shout out the screen. Now,
Speaker 2: how did Jade? Because at first it was just you
Speaker 2: and Scream, and Jade was there.
Speaker 1: Jade always there. She's you know what I'm saying, she
Speaker 1: gonna she gonna support and be on everything I do.
Speaker 1: And then it's like when we was interviewing, she was
Speaker 1: at every interview laughing in the background and ship you
Speaker 1: laugh is contagious. Yeah, and then people everybody come, they
Speaker 1: know her. Hey Jay, get a hug and ship. So
Speaker 1: one day we ain't had no guests. We were like,
Speaker 1: just sit in Jade, We're just talking. And the people
Speaker 1: in the comment they loved us. Ship Let's go. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm glad. I'm glad she got
Speaker 1: on there because I seen it gave her like I
Speaker 1: think that's her purpose. Oprah Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a clip that's probably scrolled so far
Speaker 2: down on my profile. Her and I were both crying
Speaker 2: on the interview. I got teared out. I interviewed her
Speaker 2: on Detail All Radio and I said, Man, I'm so
Speaker 2: happy for you because I like, you just said, this
Speaker 2: is your pocket. I feel like, this is why you're here.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like one of the reasons
Speaker 2: why you're here. So I'm just I'm just so happy
Speaker 2: for her. She gonna come on the show too.
Speaker 3: And Jay is a really big dot connected with a
Speaker 3: lot of people.
Speaker 1: I feel like she's the glue of Atlanta. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so Big Bank is a father, your grandfather.
Speaker 2: Now you know what I'm saying, I just kind of
Speaker 2: want to pick your brain because it's so much knowledge
Speaker 2: in the street, things that happened to you. It's just
Speaker 2: a thing of information. What's what is like something that
Speaker 2: made you you realize?
Speaker 1: All right? I need I do need to change for
Speaker 1: them too. It was my grandbaby, Like my kids, we
Speaker 1: kind of grew up together. So they saw the they
Speaker 1: saw bank. They saw black, not bank, they saw black.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying. When I got my grandkids, well,
Speaker 1: my first granddaughter, Riley, she used to be like don't
Speaker 1: say that, granddaddy, don't say bad word, don't say you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We be out. When she says
Speaker 1: things like that, it started to resonate me and start
Speaker 1: to hit me like I'm doing something wrong. Like everybody
Speaker 1: else could tell me something, I was like shit, like
Speaker 1: fuck you. But when she had the mindset to show
Speaker 1: me as a little bit of baby, like, don't say that,
Speaker 1: like just telling me I'm saying a bad word, even
Speaker 1: though I know I'm saying a bad word. It's just
Speaker 1: how she receiving it made me receive it different. That
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying now, how important it is,
Speaker 3: you know, to to kind of teacher your kids, like
Speaker 3: you know, this is what I went through. Y'all don't
Speaker 3: have to go through this, because I've already.
Speaker 1: Went through this. It's like it's like I got a
Speaker 1: son that's twenty seven, little one. Yeah, he twenty seven,
Speaker 1: So it's kind of hypocritical for me tell him not
Speaker 1: to do something shit like I remember I you be
Speaker 1: telling him about the music shit back in the day,
Speaker 1: because he used to be so geeked up on that
Speaker 1: alley of music as a kid. This when in grade
Speaker 1: school and shit. I'm like, bro, that shit fake. Bro
Speaker 1: music is fake on this and like don't because you
Speaker 1: packing yourself out like you want to live like this.
Speaker 1: This shit fake? He like, Bro, this shit ain't fake. Bro.
Speaker 1: I see how it moves you. I see the energy
Speaker 1: because I actually let them hang around me in the
Speaker 1: cars and shit, like ride around me being the hood
Speaker 1: and shit, so they know that it's real. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like that's why now if you follow me
Speaker 1: to that, follow me to this, you get know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I can't tell it to you. I
Speaker 1: gotta just show it to you for sure. So it's
Speaker 1: like me trying to tell them niggas something down. Want
Speaker 1: to hear that shit by talking? You gotta know what
Speaker 1: the proof is in the putting, like show you niggas.
Speaker 1: And that's with anybody. Like people be calling me, ask
Speaker 1: me questions, want me to mentor them. I would just
Speaker 1: be like, bro, if I can do it, you can
Speaker 1: do it. Just follow the recipe and just do it.
Speaker 1: You can't think about it. You gotta just do it.
Speaker 1: You can't worry about who's gonna be mad, who's gonna
Speaker 1: be upset, who you gonna let down? Bro? You gotta
Speaker 1: just do that shit.
Speaker 2: Do you have any regrets on anything that you have
Speaker 2: been through or decisions that you made in the past,
Speaker 2: Let me see regrets. Like you was like, damn, man,
Speaker 2: you know, I shouldn't have did that one, or damn
Speaker 2: I fucked that whole relationship up, or oh I should listen.
Speaker 1: Here, or you know, you know, I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 1: Read of get the internet a gifting a curse. I
Speaker 1: regret a lot of shit I said on the internet.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A lot of shit I
Speaker 1: did on the internet for the world to see. Cause
Speaker 1: the Internet. Don't forget that about it. Anything else made
Speaker 1: me who I am.
Speaker 3: So any relationships that you wish you would have, you know, paired,
Speaker 3: you know, repair, repaired, repaired, fuck them.
Speaker 2: To the relationships that you did repair. I thought that
Speaker 2: that was good to see. Yeah, I liked it, like
Speaker 2: who like you know you you know my boy jeezy.
Speaker 1: Snow we ain't we really That ship wasn't really nothing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real like any rap ship like
Speaker 1: that ship was really fake because then no blood was shit,
Speaker 1: nobody got punched. We were just hating on them niggas
Speaker 1: trying to get on. I'm just being real, like, man,
Speaker 1: fuck them, get out the way.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's all it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't never no issues for real, So I don't
Speaker 1: look at that is no relationship.
Speaker 2: Is so anytime Big Bank had a problem with somebody,
Speaker 2: it was more so a real problem from what you're saying.
Speaker 1: The rap shit wasn't really problems, bro, Like that ship
Speaker 1: wasn't and then like Ali felt like fuck him, so
Speaker 1: we feel like fuck you, or trouble feel like fuck you.
Speaker 1: So it's fuck you, nigga, fuck y'all niggas. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't never like nothing because we could see these niggas
Speaker 1: in there on be nothing got it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just like like we thinking that we can
Speaker 1: do the streets ship and the music ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, nigga, this's our block now, it's
Speaker 1: all fuck on, like take it over. Yeah, But that
Speaker 1: shit don't work like that, cause these niggas already in
Speaker 1: and established, you know what I'm saying, They already stablished
Speaker 1: with the niggas who you gonna need to get the money.
Speaker 1: We're just ignorant.
Speaker 2: We don't know this.
Speaker 1: We know we hard we know we really did this ship.
Speaker 1: We know we really got the money out the street.
Speaker 1: We know we you know what I'm saying, we really
Speaker 1: got tened y'all. Nigga move. That's all that. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't never feel like like that wasn't no problem, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, a problem be in the streets,
Speaker 1: like real problem, like that ship. That wasn't ship. Jesus man,
Speaker 1: that nigga takes me all the time. Broo tip my people.
Speaker 1: It was wasn't never nothing. We ain't have to have
Speaker 1: a conversation about life. We're cool nothing, none of that
Speaker 1: because it wasn't never nothing. It makes one hundred shit,
Speaker 1: aren't never nothing? They understood it. These niggas just want
Speaker 1: to be on Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Now big bank of the man. You you you definitely
Speaker 2: be circulated man with the things that you say you
Speaker 2: be saying about relationships and your stance on that.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: The perspective is perspectives of bank perspective with bank perspective
Speaker 2: with bank shout out to that new show with black Effect.
Speaker 1: Yeah what who what?
Speaker 2: How how did this come about?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Well I was I'm finna put out a book, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm saying, shouts out of my assistant court
Speaker 1: and she she she pressed me about this book. But
Speaker 1: then I'm like, bro, I can speak it better. And
Speaker 1: then you know what I'm saying, an audio book, Yeah
Speaker 1: I am. I was talking about nigga. Pat Pat he
Speaker 1: want to put the better on my back dog shouts
Speaker 1: out the big pet He like, Bro, you can do it. Bro,
Speaker 1: like you go by yourself and do some ship. Bro,
Speaker 1: you the new Kevin Samuels or charge me the fuck
Speaker 1: up and ship. I went out let them. People love it,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to. I don't really want to
Speaker 1: interview like famous people.
Speaker 2: What have I been saying because we was yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to really. You know what I'm saying. It's cool.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of friends that's famous, so pretty
Speaker 1: sure they gonna be on that. But I want to
Speaker 1: get their perspective from regular people who ain't ain't got
Speaker 1: to be media trained, who ain't on they motherfucker line.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, my language, You got you
Speaker 2: speaking my goddamn language because you live.
Speaker 1: Nigga gotta understand what these podcasts. Anybody started a podcast
Speaker 1: that always be paying niggas and do all this ship.
Speaker 1: We never paid a nigga.
Speaker 3: Fuck. We ain't never paid nobody either.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give a fuck who it is. If you
Speaker 1: see Jay z on that he did it for free
Speaker 1: for sure, whoever ain't. We ain't never paid my toe
Speaker 1: screen that bro. We would never pay a artist for sure,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you live by the artists,
Speaker 1: you die by the artist. You gotta make the people
Speaker 1: fall in love with you first, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If they love you, they love your podcast, if they
Speaker 1: love the artists, they just only love.
Speaker 3: Them people, and they only and they're only gonna go
Speaker 3: for those people, and they.
Speaker 2: That's gonna make the views go up and down, because
Speaker 2: oh yeah they ain't.
Speaker 1: They ain't interviewing nobody today.
Speaker 3: And we were just talking about that, like man fer,
Speaker 3: I was just talking about like the internet. We I
Speaker 3: feel like the world is changing into the sense of
Speaker 3: people are caring less about celebrities and more about content and.
Speaker 2: The authenticity of what they're listening to and what they're
Speaker 2: looking at.
Speaker 1: Exactly because some type of people I learned from everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't walk past conversation unless I'm busy, Like if
Speaker 1: somebody this later right here. I never met her, be folk.
Speaker 1: If she says something to me, I'm gonna take it
Speaker 1: in either it's like eat what they say, eat the
Speaker 1: state you're gonna eat, eat the paws you like, eat
Speaker 1: the good meat, spit out the fat and throw away
Speaker 1: the bone. Just I'm gonna take something from everybody, bro.
Speaker 1: So that's what I want to do. I want to
Speaker 1: sit down on top to people that's actually got something
Speaker 1: to say. You know what I'm saying That of promote,
Speaker 1: like you know, everybody promoting something, but it ain't all
Speaker 1: about that, you know what I'm saying, Like we having
Speaker 1: a regular conversation. It's a conversation. We ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: here to sell nothing.
Speaker 2: But I do like how you tapping into the person
Speaker 2: you're interviewings mind, in particular when you have the female
Speaker 2: guests and I haven't. Yeah, I've seen some guys, but
Speaker 2: you're getting their perspective on love, marriage, relationships, friendships and beyond.
Speaker 2: And I just it's just good to see and enlightening
Speaker 2: to see these type of conversations because it looks organic.
Speaker 1: It feels organic. Now I'm watching for a.
Speaker 2: Long time and correct me for wrong. Is that the
Speaker 2: purpose of the for sure, Okay, for sure, it's just like.
Speaker 1: Because. And that's another thing that changed my life. Bro,
Speaker 1: when I start to be able to respect other people
Speaker 1: perspective and knowing that everybody ain't gonna think like you,
Speaker 1: probably nobody, and it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, big doll.
Speaker 1: But I don't have to agree with it, but I
Speaker 1: can hear it out because they perspect it might shift
Speaker 1: minds a little bit. Because I can see how you
Speaker 1: would see things the way you see things. I can
Speaker 1: see how you would see things the way you see things,
Speaker 1: and I know why I see things the way I
Speaker 1: see them. That don't mean I'm right, you wrong or
Speaker 1: vice versa.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying I'll admit something on camera too, and
Speaker 2: I know at least probably gonna clip this up. I
Speaker 2: realized the problem I failed at all the relationships because
Speaker 2: I was ignorant, and with me, I did not want
Speaker 2: to hear or care about your perspective because I felt like,
Speaker 2: if I'm the man, follow the path, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take us to the right path, But what if your
Speaker 2: path is good, it's gonna take us there too. I
Speaker 2: should be listening to you. And I feel like with
Speaker 2: my wife Tanisha, she's the first woman that I said, damn,
Speaker 2: you know what, let me trust your path because she's
Speaker 2: in she's in accounting.
Speaker 3: Like let me, let's let us be side by side.
Speaker 2: And and yeah, you know, so I was just gun,
Speaker 2: hold on, you know, I'm gonna lead. I'm gonn lead,
Speaker 2: I'm ana lead. But I also realized the best part
Speaker 2: of a leader is learning to follow at moments too.
Speaker 2: And my wife is really good at numbers and money.
Speaker 1: That's her job. So she was like, give me all
Speaker 1: your money.
Speaker 2: We bought a house six months later, car.
Speaker 1: Wh She was right.
Speaker 2: But it's making me realize I was the problem.
Speaker 1: Yes previously, that's the spot, bro, That mirror, that's the spot.
Speaker 1: That's where you know where you're at.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: You can look in the mirror and be honest. Instead
Speaker 1: of looking a lot of nigga looking in the mirror
Speaker 1: and a lie, You're looking at the mirror and be honest. Brother,
Speaker 1: you bade a deal with the real.
Speaker 3: Yup and Instagram make people lie a lie too. Hey, Yeah,
Speaker 3: this shit like social media make people lie so much
Speaker 3: Because I always tell people social media is a highlight
Speaker 3: reel so you might look at somebody's social media and
Speaker 3: be like, man, they doing better than me, or they
Speaker 3: look like they're more successful than me. You don't know
Speaker 3: what they going through when they put this, when they
Speaker 3: put this phone down, you don't know what they got
Speaker 3: going They got some shit going on, because I tell
Speaker 3: people all the time, I've been hosting clubs for a
Speaker 3: long time in Atlanta, and I've seen a lot of
Speaker 3: people go broken. I'm talking about people that you see
Speaker 3: every week. Theyre in there five ten bottles. Now they
Speaker 3: come as five bottles. Now they getting a two dollars section.
Speaker 3: Now they had five security guards. Now they got no
Speaker 3: security guard.
Speaker 2: And I was like, man, I'm really watching people go broke.
Speaker 3: But if you was just in the club and you
Speaker 3: seen this person every week, you would think this person
Speaker 3: got more money than anybody you ever seen.
Speaker 2: My thing was when I stopped smoking and drinking. I
Speaker 2: never really did both to a high velocity, but just
Speaker 2: being in them clubs, you know, you get it for free. Yep, smoke, drink,
Speaker 2: eat for free.
Speaker 1: And I changed my.
Speaker 2: Diet up because I have very very high cholesterol. Looking
Speaker 2: at me, you probably be like, oh cool, Nah, I was,
Speaker 2: I'm on pills, now, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: I had to change my diet and I had to
Speaker 2: start getting disciplined. And the best thing that ever happened
Speaker 2: to me I started working out. It provided me a
Speaker 2: lot of clarity and vision, and now I can execute
Speaker 2: so many things. And getting up early in the morning
Speaker 2: and taking my kids to school. I really hated doing
Speaker 2: that for a long time because ninety percent of my
Speaker 2: life and my career was I get up at eleven
Speaker 2: am because I don't got to be worth a six clock.
Speaker 2: Now I got kids and with my wife live together
Speaker 2: where a family, and I get up and take my
Speaker 2: kids and get them ready and take them to school.
Speaker 2: I never had to do that before.
Speaker 1: If I sleep pat five o'clock, Man, my day don't
Speaker 1: go right in the morning. Yeah yeah, five, maybe six
Speaker 1: at the most. Bro, I'm up like my body just
Speaker 1: trying win. Did that change for you when I start
Speaker 1: working out and ship start walking? I ain't never did
Speaker 1: like that should workout? All I did was walk, Bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, And and I don't
Speaker 1: even know that that's a part of like meditation. I
Speaker 1: ain't even know that walking in meditation. I never knew
Speaker 1: that try to scream.
Speaker 2: He put me onto that and.
Speaker 3: That's one of the healthiest. That's one of the healthiest
Speaker 3: ways to exercise is walking. Yeah, study shows I looked
Speaker 3: it up for I don't walk.
Speaker 1: That man, man, man, I don't walk plant plant tar
Speaker 1: flaship ie is on my feet. The mother can hurt
Speaker 1: like he But yeah, but walking, like I said, that
Speaker 1: was another part me out there on the trail. I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking, I'm trying to get the ship the pounds
Speaker 1: off right, but I'm sharing more ship out of my
Speaker 1: mental life seeing shit different, not care and see. I
Speaker 1: feel like most niggas that come from where I come from, Bro,
Speaker 1: they really seeking validation. They don't even know it for
Speaker 1: sure from people that don't matter. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What we do is we we live for others instead
Speaker 1: of I said. You know what I'm saying, when I
Speaker 1: started living for me like it is what it is,
Speaker 1: I gotta do this for me. I gotta do this
Speaker 1: for me. Slowly, people gonna gonna shed away from you,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's cool they want
Speaker 1: they not for this next part. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: That's just how we gotta look at a lot of
Speaker 1: people trying to keep everybody. Everybody can't can't stay, everybody
Speaker 1: can't go. Not for sure, that shit hurt. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're gonna miss them every day. But
Speaker 1: it's a part of life, you want to Insanity is
Speaker 1: staying in the same spot, trying to do some do
Speaker 1: to something, trying to perspect some different results. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: on that, bro. Like I'm at peace. Bro. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I had way more money than I have now, but
Speaker 1: I ain't never had that kind of peace.
Speaker 2: It's a different kind of rich too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My last question bank, do you go to therapy? Do
Speaker 2: you talk to a therapist? Like? This is part of
Speaker 2: this is the mental health check in segment. It's just
Speaker 2: basically dedicated to you know you talking about if you
Speaker 2: go see a therapist, how do you what do you
Speaker 2: talk about?
Speaker 1: How do you overcome it?
Speaker 2: Or if you don't do that, what do you do
Speaker 2: if you're.
Speaker 1: Having a moment or a bad day. I went to
Speaker 1: a therapist when when day passed long that day only day.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't want to I ain't want to bother
Speaker 2: you with that. Yeah, how's my god? O?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my brother. Yeah, I love you to death, bro,
Speaker 1: but they couldn't help me. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: my therapist, this is what we're doing now. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying talking on them podcast because I'm getting
Speaker 1: it out, for sure. I'm getting it out, like getting
Speaker 1: it out and getting different perspectives from people, and then
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, I ain't look at it like that. Like,
Speaker 1: so I bring a lot of this year on Perspective'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of like therapists and advocates and
Speaker 1: philamp prisons and all that ship coaches, like all those
Speaker 1: people that's really out here doing the work. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have them on there, and what they don't understand. When
Speaker 1: I had those people on there, like I had a
Speaker 1: lot of them on their last year, it helps me, no,
Speaker 1: for sure, you know what I'm saying, Like because we
Speaker 1: talked them the hour and a half off camera and
Speaker 1: before and after, So I'm really getting therapy through walking
Speaker 1: and just understanding what.
Speaker 2: You technically do.
Speaker 1: Get some type of Yeah, I just ain't going to
Speaker 1: sit down on nobody.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying to me, Yeah, it's your
Speaker 3: own type of therapy that you need because everybody needs
Speaker 3: different type of therapy.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, because it's hard to just sit and unpacked
Speaker 1: to a person who ain't been through what you've been through,
Speaker 1: Like you can't really you know, they go to school
Speaker 1: for it. It's just like a marriage counselor that's not married.
Speaker 1: Like how you gonna tell me? What? How you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? But like actually talking to these people
Speaker 1: like shouts out to doctor Barber, shouts out the I
Speaker 1: got a lot of friends too that call me and
Speaker 1: just check on my mentor and ship. We have come,
Speaker 1: say wallow shots out of Wallow, that nigga call, we
Speaker 1: might do it. We do a whole podcast every other day. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that nigga called me on the phone. We might talk
Speaker 1: for two hours. You know what I'm saying while here
Speaker 1: in the airport or while I'm on the trail. So
Speaker 1: shots out to people like that, and yeah, just like
Speaker 1: you could, you can. You can make your own therapy
Speaker 1: without go and send and talk to somebody me personally.
Speaker 1: Just call somebody you know that's gonna keep it row
Speaker 1: with you and don't be scared to be accountable and vulnerable.
Speaker 1: That's what Nigga's fucking up at you scared to look weak.
Speaker 1: We all got weak bombs in us. That don't mean
Speaker 1: you're gonna fall. Thank you for saying that, sir. That's
Speaker 1: the truth.
Speaker 3: We all feel weak sometimes we all feel empty, and
Speaker 3: we all go through the same emotions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that don't mean you're gonna fall. And I
Speaker 1: was telling Scream this too, like scream you, And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you want me to say that, but
Speaker 1: I'll be like, bro, you be trying to just stay
Speaker 1: like this, you know, I like, you don't want to
Speaker 1: get mad, you don't get sad. You gonna just stay. No,
Speaker 1: but you gotta activate all your emotions for sure. You
Speaker 1: have to get angry. Sometimes you have to get upset. Sometimes.
Speaker 2: I've never seen scream mad me neither. Maybe one time,
Speaker 2: maybe one time with my camera. Maybe one time.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: I fuck at that club, Scream was djaming. I came in,
Speaker 2: walked in. I was hosting. It was a club where
Speaker 2: you walk in and you go all way upstairs.
Speaker 1: Was in the corner. Damn.
Speaker 2: It was in that little duck off area on Beute Highway.
Speaker 2: It didn't changed names so many times. Anyway, this person
Speaker 2: kept ashes screaming the play they saw Scream was like, Bro,
Speaker 2: I told you now right now, that was like ten
Speaker 2: years ago. I ain't never seen Scream mad. Maybe Scream
Speaker 2: has figured the matrix out and Scream so damn tall.
Speaker 2: Scream was sixty five.
Speaker 3: They Scream figured the matrix out.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't be them niggas who snapped.
Speaker 3: But those are the people that you should be afraid of.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's what peop don't understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it helped me. He like, Bro, you can't
Speaker 1: let that stuff get to you. Bro, Like what the
Speaker 1: stuff you're talking about don't even matter where you're going.
Speaker 1: That ship, that ship resonated to me so hard. This
Speaker 1: this five years ago. You're like the ship you're thinking
Speaker 1: about and it you're talking about, Bro, don't even matter
Speaker 1: to where you're going. For sure, he'll say that.
Speaker 2: I mean one time BT was having a moment. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say the whole thing. I don't think he
Speaker 2: wanted to do that, but BT was having a moment
Speaker 2: and Scream walked in and I was trying to talk
Speaker 2: some sense into BT. And guess what, Screen did, calm
Speaker 2: this food all the way down. I walked off, did
Speaker 2: some stuff. I came back. BT was in there like
Speaker 2: man screaming, right, you calm everything.
Speaker 3: That's just that's that's that's why I says, I think
Speaker 3: he screaming screams Gift, that's he figured out the matrix
Speaker 3: because I was upset about something that scrims.
Speaker 2: Like look, look let me see you with that right there.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you she you gotta look at it
Speaker 3: like this. This is what's gonna happen. Screen gonna tell
Speaker 3: you everything.
Speaker 1: He's gonna this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't think like that.
Speaker 1: But we have to check on them people too, though,
Speaker 1: not track. You know what I'm saying, because when you
Speaker 1: when you pour into so many other people, you get overlooked,
Speaker 1: like your ship get overlooked.
Speaker 2: Like you're expected to always be Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is what I was told him, Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta activate all emotion. Bro, get mad.
Speaker 2: Bro Okay, since you said that, we got to such
Speaker 2: a call you got me damn Okay. What's some ship
Speaker 2: that got big bang fucked up? It could be traffic,
Speaker 2: it could be Finna tell you what got me fucked up?
Speaker 2: Niggas calling without a budget got me fucked up?
Speaker 1: Betweenty twenty five talk about it. You have up front,
Speaker 1: however you do it, Nigga, I take them VERU installment.
Speaker 1: Just talk about do you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: specially I don't know you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like like I'm bring y'all on perspective, so we swapping work.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you know how motherfuckers just call you
Speaker 1: out the blue thinking that nah buddy.
Speaker 3: And people thinking this profession that were just working for free,
Speaker 3: Like we're just like you know you got work like
Speaker 3: when they got me super Man.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Any shout out to anything you want
Speaker 2: to promote for you get out.
Speaker 1: Here, man, shout out to the world.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we heal ourselves and heal the world man together
Speaker 1: and uh ship follow me Big bank at l y'all
Speaker 1: know what we're.
Speaker 2: Doing, Big Bank Man, This is an honor and a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Have you come back often too?
Speaker 1: Man, whenever y'all segment.
Speaker 2: Think about it, we got im saying the.
Speaker 1: Ball alert dog shouts out of y'all.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I love y'all Man,