Speaker 1: It is victory Monday, October sixteenth.
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Speaker 5: Today.
Speaker 6: After a Jaguars victory thirty seven twenty over the Indianapolis Colts,
Speaker 6: the Jaguars sweep their division rivals and now control the
Speaker 6: division at four and too at least a game ahead
Speaker 6: of the Texans.
Speaker 5: The defense playing big again. Four takeaways.
Speaker 6: We're going to Trevor Lawrence knee injury update kind of
Speaker 6: from the head coach. We'll keep it real in the
Speaker 6: second hour, of course, and fanatics fan questions. Let's start
Speaker 6: today with head coach Doug Peterson this afternoon asked about
Speaker 6: the status of Trevor Lawrence and that left knee.
Speaker 4: I showed Trevor, you have talked for you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that is that's out.
Speaker 4: Of my pretty well, are you strangling amidst or anything
Speaker 4: like that or bone bruis or what?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's out out of my jurisdiction.
Speaker 4: May not play Thursday day to day.
Speaker 5: There you have it.
Speaker 6: Uh, that was the laugh of Tony Boselli, who was
Speaker 6: sitting besides Paul jo.
Speaker 2: I can't help it. That was the greatest, greatest Doug
Speaker 2: Peterson answer ever.
Speaker 5: I've loved it out of my jurisdiction.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was beautiful. First of all, he handled
Speaker 2: it perfectly. I don't think he could have answered it better.
Speaker 2: My favorite is my favorite is you have to ask
Speaker 2: Fergie who who's the head trainer who will never have
Speaker 2: access to the media.
Speaker 5: That Missus prescottis today?
Speaker 4: Why doesn't he just answer the damn question? No you don't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't answer either because it's Thursday night, short week.
Speaker 2: You answer only what you have to answer because guess
Speaker 2: what sansor got to figure it out. Why I'd give
Speaker 2: them any information earlier than you have to. I love it.
Speaker 2: I think it's awesome. I would have said I literally
Speaker 2: if I if I scripted myself, I could not say
Speaker 2: it better than Doug Peterson just did that.
Speaker 5: That was awesome.
Speaker 4: A lot of my jurisdiction. But I'm the head coach
Speaker 4: of the football team and I have to plan for
Speaker 4: a game on Thursday. But I don't know if my
Speaker 4: quarterback is going to be available to me. Are you
Speaker 4: kidding me? Give me a break. It's absurd. Did they
Speaker 4: was anybody in that room laughing? I didn't hear anybody laughing.
Speaker 2: Come on, I laughed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you laughed because it was you know how absurd? Well,
Speaker 4: how was it absurd? Pete? First of all, well, okay,
Speaker 4: just say he's day to day. He might get some
Speaker 4: work today. We don't know the extent of it. It is
Speaker 4: nothing major, because why if it's anything major, didn't they
Speaker 4: say later on, he's gonna get half the reps or something,
Speaker 4: or do some work today.
Speaker 5: Well guess what they said. They might split if they
Speaker 5: have to tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they might split the No, No, it's day to day, Pete.
Speaker 2: I know because as a former beat writer, you can't
Speaker 2: take that hat off for a second and appreciate how
Speaker 2: beautiful of a press conference answer that was.
Speaker 4: By the way, it's absurd. If anybody who knows anything
Speaker 4: about the league knows Tom knew if you had a hangnail, Yes,
Speaker 4: he knows. He knows exactly the extent of that injury.
Speaker 6: By the way, not long after that, Adam Schefter of
Speaker 6: ESPN tweeted an injury update. Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence has
Speaker 6: what a league source described as a knee sprain That
Speaker 6: is not a significant thing, but as uncertain. Whether Lawrence
Speaker 6: can play Thursday United New Orleans and the Jaguars would
Speaker 6: determine as the week progresses.
Speaker 5: The back up with CJ Beth that's tweet.
Speaker 4: It didn't look like it was anything bad. But here's
Speaker 4: what I'd say about that. Doug should worry less about
Speaker 4: what he says to the media in that situation and
Speaker 4: about the stupid play call in that situation.
Speaker 2: I think stupid is a little ball off to Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean, am I allowed to finish my sentence before
Speaker 2: you just yell? I never I never interrupted you.
Speaker 5: This is after a win, by the way, that this
Speaker 5: is happening. Just for the record, it's true.
Speaker 2: It's also team it's beautiful place franchise quarterback. I understand that,
Speaker 2: but I'm like yeah, running it up the middle, fine,
Speaker 2: running a bootleg? Fine?
Speaker 5: Like whatever?
Speaker 2: Like I mean okay, Like, would it have been my
Speaker 2: first choice?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Am I gonna kill Doug and press for doing it? No?
Speaker 4: Yes, Well, first of all, Albus time was left when
Speaker 4: he did.
Speaker 5: That, uh three minutes change? Like three?
Speaker 4: Hey, you could make the case he shouldn't be in
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 6: Come on, it's two score games, two store game.
Speaker 2: That's still you can get if you if you missed
Speaker 2: the field goal there, Okay, don't just think seriously.
Speaker 5: I mean, he had made two already, but he is.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you missed the field goal, they get good
Speaker 2: field position. They go score on kid, score again on?
Speaker 4: Did give me the play by play for that got twenty?
Speaker 2: It was like the twenty they were pretty deep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I mean to your point, so.
Speaker 4: They'll get great field position if you missed the field goal.
Speaker 6: If they if they handed off kicked field goal, it's
Speaker 6: seventeen point game, right, which is what it turned out
Speaker 6: to be.
Speaker 5: After the field goal.
Speaker 4: That was an'd be two and a half minutes left
Speaker 4: in the game and the game's over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like if they drive three times and beat
Speaker 6: you without timeouts, then tip your hat and then get
Speaker 6: on your defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a bad call. There's no defending that call
Speaker 4: in any way, shape, form or fast. It's just a
Speaker 4: bad football call. It's a bad football this. Okay, it
Speaker 4: might be a little stupid, might be a little harsh.
Speaker 4: Brain dead is probably the better one when you just
Speaker 4: it's a bad it's a bad decision. You don't put
Speaker 4: your quarterback into any sort of peril in a game
Speaker 4: where you don't need to.
Speaker 6: They were a third and seven at the Nby sixteen
Speaker 6: yard line with three ten to play.
Speaker 4: Turning hand the ball and how many time outs?
Speaker 5: Actually it was third nine just for the record, but
Speaker 5: it was third and seven on the play by play,
Speaker 5: thank you wrong?
Speaker 4: And how many timeouts that Indy had left? One? Two.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they had any. I think I
Speaker 5: think they were done.
Speaker 4: It just gives it more credibility, Tony. I know you,
Speaker 4: and I know how you think ahead in situations. There's
Speaker 4: not a chance in hell you would not have turned
Speaker 4: and hand the ball off and then kicked your field
Speaker 4: going gone home.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to kill Doug impressed for that call.
Speaker 5: They were a hundred and Doug said today.
Speaker 6: He was again looking at it a day later, one
Speaker 6: hundred percent behind the decision that the quarterback we could
Speaker 6: have taken a shorter sack, He could have gone down earlier.
Speaker 6: He can just fall down, you know, and then live
Speaker 6: to fight another day.
Speaker 5: That was what he said.
Speaker 4: Or he could have just like been not involved in
Speaker 4: a play by handing the ball, often to one of
Speaker 4: the running backs, preferably the backup running back in that situation.
Speaker 2: You know two things that I'm gonna get off this
Speaker 2: topic because it's dumb. It's not the topic of the day. Well, okay,
Speaker 2: it's not dumb dumb from this standpoint. Pete thinks it's
Speaker 2: a bad call. I think it's a fine call. What
Speaker 2: I called it, I probably would handed it off. But whatever. Okay,
Speaker 2: So it is what it is. The big story is
Speaker 2: it will Trevor be healthy enough to play on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: That's the big story.
Speaker 4: And then it becomes an even bigger story to make
Speaker 4: the call if he can't.
Speaker 2: Pete the calls in the past, but but you can.
Speaker 4: We're here today, we're talking about the game today.
Speaker 2: And we've it's very clear your position of it being stupid,
Speaker 2: bring dead whatever.
Speaker 4: Other adjective.
Speaker 2: You want my position, My position is test you would
Speaker 2: agree with me. My position is I probably would have
Speaker 2: run it. I'm fine with the call.
Speaker 4: Though, Tony, do you think that was a good call.
Speaker 2: I'm fine. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2: And so that's like when I say, you're right, JP,
Speaker 2: it's a it was not a dumb topic. It's something
Speaker 2: we had to address, but now it's dumb to continue
Speaker 2: it because we know where now the story is. Will
Speaker 2: he play?
Speaker 4: Then it becomes even bigger.
Speaker 5: It's a bigger story. It's certainly not a dumb story.
Speaker 5: Then I say this, he will play, and I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think there'll be any issue at all with that.
Speaker 4: Mee, I don't. I'm with you, Tony. I think you'll play.
Speaker 4: But again, you should have been put in that position.
Speaker 4: But Tony, you've been around knee injuries. You've had some.
Speaker 4: I know you had some when you had the private
Speaker 4: plane they sent you private plane for you up in
Speaker 4: witsconsin and had a knee injury back then. When you
Speaker 4: saw that, give me. Because you've been around a league
Speaker 4: a long time, you can usually gauge what did you
Speaker 4: think that was? What it didn't look like was anything major.
Speaker 2: When I saw it live, I thought he banged his
Speaker 2: knee on the turf, And then I saw it in
Speaker 2: slow motion. It doesn't really hit it. He kind of
Speaker 2: it's a slight twist, so I think he, I mean tweaked,
Speaker 2: maybe the m CL a little bit, just tweet I
Speaker 2: mean just maybe just sprained it over in general, like
Speaker 2: like especially as I get older, like you ever go
Speaker 2: like play. I remember I played pickleball like a year
Speaker 2: ago for the first time, and after like two days
Speaker 2: of like cutting back and forth, my knee was like swollen.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, pickleball.
Speaker 5: You're not supposed to move.
Speaker 4: There's no So what did did Sead send a limo
Speaker 4: to your house to take you to No?
Speaker 2: No, did that anything.
Speaker 5: I iced it.
Speaker 2: But my point is that's what it looked like. But
Speaker 2: now the human body is funny. I mean, you we
Speaker 2: have seen much more monocuous plays, and the injury must
Speaker 2: becomes much worse than anyone ever imagined.
Speaker 4: And he was kind of walking around like there's no
Speaker 4: problem with it. Here's here's spirits didn't seem like he
Speaker 4: was worried.
Speaker 2: Here's the most telling thing why he's gonna be fine,
Speaker 2: and why. Frankly, I think Doug's press conference was very
Speaker 2: telling because he was almost mocking the question, and I
Speaker 2: don't think he would have if it was something serious.
Speaker 2: And this is the other reason I don't think it's
Speaker 2: serious is because after the game, he was standing on
Speaker 2: the sidelines as they were taking a knee, no one
Speaker 2: around him, and then he proceeded to go walk out
Speaker 2: and high five and hug everyone for five minutes like
Speaker 2: every other player, and then he proceeded to do an
Speaker 2: interview with CBS. Then he proceeded to walk in casually
Speaker 2: into the locker room and go do his press conference
Speaker 2: like any other game. If it was something serious, he's
Speaker 2: doing none of that.
Speaker 4: I remember. I remember when Mark hurt his knee. They
Speaker 4: were like vigils all over town. Remember it was like.
Speaker 2: Well that was I think that was a little bit
Speaker 2: more serious, because there was.
Speaker 4: It was. It was. But but yeah, I'm with you, Tony,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think it's serious. It didn't look
Speaker 4: like it was. He didn't act like it was. What
Speaker 4: I didn't understand was he said it was bruised after
Speaker 4: the game because.
Speaker 2: He went down weird. I can't and I want to see,
Speaker 2: like the TV copying slow mode, did his knee bang
Speaker 2: the turf? I don't remember when it was live. That's
Speaker 2: what it looked like like he went on hard on
Speaker 2: his knee and then he did.
Speaker 4: If he banged the knee and he bruised it, then
Speaker 4: that's not a big deal. But if you have just
Speaker 4: you have lick him a damage like or a sprain,
Speaker 4: you wouldn't have a bruise.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you could twist it where you
Speaker 2: have a bone, a slight bone bruise on the tibia plateau.
Speaker 2: I've had that too.
Speaker 4: That he does hit it, I think you look at
Speaker 4: it right here, watch.
Speaker 2: I don't think it ever hits.
Speaker 5: I think it just that was just kind of a
Speaker 5: weird twist. And where's he running anyway?
Speaker 2: I don't know. He should throw the ball.
Speaker 4: That's my next bit running to the bench after they
Speaker 4: kicked the field goal.
Speaker 2: Which just goes to my next This offense only had
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty three yards, Yes.
Speaker 5: Yow, they had a bunch of short fields.
Speaker 2: Now with that said, I will never talk bad about
Speaker 2: an offense that got the ball and turnovers and scored
Speaker 2: and had thirty seven points. So at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, they did their job. Forget about the yards
Speaker 2: yards are I'd rather have a lot of points and
Speaker 2: a few yards and a lot of yards and few
Speaker 2: points because I've been on the side where you have
Speaker 2: a bunch of yards and not very many points and
Speaker 2: that doesn't work out well. Two things I was I
Speaker 2: was thinking about watching the tape today and kind of
Speaker 2: thinking through where this offense is after six games.
Speaker 4: One is.
Speaker 2: My biggest issue with Trevor Lawrence. Biggest issue. He's too
Speaker 2: damn competitive at times. He tries to do too much.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just got to say it's not there and
Speaker 2: either take a sack or throw it away. And that
Speaker 2: dude is so competitive he thinks he's in it. And
Speaker 2: I mean, and we were very fortunate early that game
Speaker 2: because he has a like a naked or something and
Speaker 2: it's a throwback he's trying to throw. He has pressure
Speaker 2: and he like just like lunges to the right with
Speaker 2: his head not even looking and just tries to sling
Speaker 2: it as he's getting hit to save the sack. And
Speaker 2: it almost was intercepted. It was like a yard short
Speaker 2: of a defensive end intercepting it. I goes uh quit
Speaker 2: he pay. And then we saw it in Buffalo where
Speaker 2: like he is trying after the bat snap, trying to
Speaker 2: find a way to get and almost fumbles it. And
Speaker 2: then another this where he got hurt. I'm not blaming
Speaker 2: him for getting hurt. The situational football plays over like
Speaker 2: they got it. They read it either throw it to
Speaker 2: the throw it into the crowd, throw it into the crowd,
Speaker 2: or fall outside the pocket or fall out. People always
Speaker 2: use like I think everyone would agree that Tom Brady
Speaker 2: was one of the most competitive people that ever played
Speaker 2: the game. Peyton Manning one of the most competitive people
Speaker 2: ever played the game. Go watch them play. When they
Speaker 2: knew it was over and they there's nowhere to go,
Speaker 2: they would fall down.
Speaker 4: You know, that's a good point that you make about
Speaker 4: the competitiveness, because I think the competitiveness sometimes shows up
Speaker 4: on his throws. And I'll give you an example yesterday,
Speaker 4: and you watch the tape, they had a third and
Speaker 4: three or third and four I think it was, and
Speaker 4: he tried to hit that sideline shot to Ridley. Yep,
Speaker 4: I think that's a play. He had Tank Bigsby in
Speaker 4: the middle of the field for what would have been
Speaker 4: a just check it down and he's gonna run for
Speaker 4: twelve yards in the first down. Now that's where the
Speaker 4: competitiveness because he could fit. That was an unreal throat
Speaker 4: to Ridley on the sideline.
Speaker 2: Oh, the dude is so talented. I mean, it is
Speaker 2: scary how talent he is.
Speaker 4: And so that's the little thing. That's the little thing,
Speaker 4: Tony take that check see And sometimes we've been critical
Speaker 4: of him earlier in the year where he's taken the
Speaker 4: checkdown and passed on the on the big throw. So
Speaker 4: somewhere in between is where he's gonna get to and
Speaker 4: then it's all gonna click.
Speaker 2: Well and Pete like, I'm less worried about him trying
Speaker 2: to make that throw to your point, I mean, there
Speaker 2: was an easy pick up first down to Tank. Okay,
Speaker 2: I can live with that. Where I get worried because
Speaker 2: it leads to mistakes is his competitive like trying to
Speaker 2: extend plays. And he's a franchise quarterback. He is a
Speaker 2: stud I love him, and I love the competitive nature
Speaker 2: he needs to learn in certain situations.
Speaker 5: Was there one in the end zone yesterday too? Like
Speaker 5: it was reminiscent of the home sneak, which, by the way,
Speaker 5: if Evan doesn't tip it.
Speaker 2: I think it's a touchdown.
Speaker 4: And that's the other thing they should do, like a
Speaker 4: reel of cutups of Josh Allen to show how you
Speaker 4: you you if you push it too far, you're gonna
Speaker 4: end up being it's gonna be a p for you.
Speaker 2: And so that's so that's my and if that's my
Speaker 2: big criticism of our quarterback, that's okay. I could live
Speaker 2: with that because he's a I mean, he is so
Speaker 2: fun to watch. The second thing, we'll talk about this
Speaker 2: more because I know we're up against it is they
Speaker 2: need to figure out who else can run the ball
Speaker 2: besides Etn. He leads the league in attempts and he's
Speaker 2: one of the main pass catchers too in this offense.
Speaker 2: And I worry about over seventeen games him being fresh
Speaker 2: ready to go for the stretch and for the playoffs,
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to figure out whether it's de Arnest
Speaker 2: Johnson or Tank Bisbee. Well, I want to talk about
Speaker 2: the running back position because we have one heck of
Speaker 2: a one here, but boy, he's carrying a big load
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 5: Tony will come back and we will do just that. Okay,
Speaker 5: we'll talk about the running back gameuries. He's expertise, well time,
Speaker 5: well execute. Thank you, thanks very competitive of you, very competitive,
Speaker 5: trying to make a play.
Speaker 2: Me and Trevor.
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Speaker 5: I am disappointed in that.
Speaker 8: I feel like we kind of had some drives where
Speaker 8: we were had a little role in our in our offense.
Speaker 8: So I think that's obviously you never want that to happen.
Speaker 8: But it's also tough in that in that position, you
Speaker 8: know we can do a better job situationally, like we
Speaker 8: need first downs, we still need to move the ball,
Speaker 8: we need to get points. But when you got that
Speaker 8: big of a lead, you're you're trying to possess the ball,
Speaker 8: trying to keep it out of their hands, just trying.
Speaker 8: It's so you're playing. It's like a balancing act of
Speaker 8: you know, do you stay, how aggressive do you stay?
Speaker 8: All those things? And I think that's something where.
Speaker 4: We need to be better executing.
Speaker 5: We were really bad on first down in.
Speaker 8: The firth in the fourth quarter, so put us in
Speaker 8: second and long, and then they can kind of do
Speaker 8: whatever they want. They can they can drop out, play
Speaker 8: zone coverage that make you throw underneath, they can pressure you,
Speaker 8: puts you in a tougher position. So I think we've
Speaker 8: got to be better on first down in those situations.
Speaker 8: And then, you know, I'm never going to be too
Speaker 8: disappointed in a win, though it's hard to win this league,
Speaker 8: especially division games, and this is as a that's a
Speaker 8: good team. You know, they're two and one in the
Speaker 8: division coming into the day, so it's a big win
Speaker 8: for us.
Speaker 6: That's the quarterback, of course. Trevor Lawrence after the game
Speaker 6: yesterday at Jaguars win over the Indianapolis Colts, Welcome back.
Speaker 6: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on Victory Monday, presented by Jet
Speaker 6: Home Loans. In the first hour on ten ten Xcel Am,
Speaker 6: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick, Tony Buselli, Pete Prisco,
Speaker 6: We've gone through the quarterback part of the offense. There
Speaker 6: are ten other guys on the field as well, and
Speaker 6: a lot of them are banged up right now. Yesterday
Speaker 6: going into the game, Walker little. I was out of
Speaker 6: the game, did not play. Zay Jones was not available.
Speaker 2: And I don't think either of them will be available
Speaker 2: for Thursday night if I was a betting.
Speaker 5: Man, Okay, that's for entertainment purposes only, of course, and
Speaker 5: then well I don't gamble, but no, well that's illegal.
Speaker 5: So still in Bushwood. Yeah, and never slice, never sle.
Speaker 6: So I mean, they're banged up a little bit coming
Speaker 6: into the game, and then Sheriff gets hurt in the
Speaker 6: game with an ankle issue.
Speaker 2: What did Doug say anything about him today besides.
Speaker 5: Day to day, day to day. We're all day to
Speaker 5: day as for he didn't say that. That was only about
Speaker 5: the quarterback.
Speaker 6: So they're dinged up a little bit anyway, going in
Speaker 6: on offense. I know you wanted to talk a little
Speaker 6: bit about the running game, but it starts up front, right.
Speaker 6: You got a lot of moving parts up there, guys.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, to be clear, the running game, and
Speaker 2: I want to let's start there because I think this
Speaker 2: is it kind of goes in line with your injury
Speaker 2: questions and being beat up more than anything. And Travis
Speaker 2: is healthy, which is great, yeah, and playing I mean, gosh.
Speaker 5: He's good.
Speaker 2: He is so good.
Speaker 5: One hundred and thirteen carries, leads the league.
Speaker 2: He's let me just start. And I know, Pete and
Speaker 2: I when he was drafted, said why would you draft
Speaker 2: running back in the first round? And blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and not that I'm four drafting running backs early, but
Speaker 2: set that aside. He is now one of the most
Speaker 2: important players on this team and one of the best
Speaker 2: players in this team. And I did not see this
Speaker 2: based on the first training camp. Obviously, got hurt his
Speaker 2: in his rookie year and had a great year last year.
Speaker 2: He's better this year. I mean he is. He is
Speaker 2: the exact back that you that you have talked about
Speaker 2: for years in this in this era of the NFL.
Speaker 2: Space back, speed, catch the ball, the backfield. I mean
Speaker 2: he is. He's dynamic when he gets the ball in
Speaker 2: his hands.
Speaker 4: You know, Tony, I'd love to talk running backs, but
Speaker 4: that's out of my jurisdiction. It's pretty good, no, Look,
Speaker 4: you know, I love the airback. That's what I call him,
Speaker 4: the airback, the spaceback, the airback. And and he you
Speaker 4: know what. The other thing too. Somebody said to me
Speaker 4: the other day, he's not that big, but he's big
Speaker 4: from the waist down. He's big in terms of his
Speaker 4: legs or he can get you know, he's.
Speaker 2: Tough, he runs tough, he's physical.
Speaker 4: And here's one thing I'll want to say, Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: giving Doug crap. I want to give Doug and Press
Speaker 4: some credit. I don't like taking a quarterback and sticking
Speaker 4: him to the side. You know that. That's it's It
Speaker 4: bothers me a great deal. The design of that play
Speaker 4: was fantastic, okay, because they had the action going to
Speaker 4: the left as if that was going to be a
Speaker 4: run to the left, and then they pulled guys and
Speaker 4: came late. The offensive lineman got out and led him
Speaker 4: through the thing. I thought the design of all the action,
Speaker 4: all the action was going that way, and they brought
Speaker 4: him back to you look at it, it's all going
Speaker 4: that way. Then the loop, the loops, the tight end
Speaker 4: back around Ingram gets the center out and off he goes.
Speaker 4: The design of that play was fantastic. So you know,
Speaker 4: I don't like the quarterback lining up left in the
Speaker 4: wide receiver position. I never do, no matter who it is.
Speaker 4: But I give him a plus for the design of
Speaker 4: that well.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a great timing too, because it
Speaker 2: was sudden change, and so I think they caught the
Speaker 2: Colts by surprise. I mean, they haven't done any wildcat
Speaker 2: all year. They come out sudden change and they pop
Speaker 2: this until I thought it was huge. But my bigger,
Speaker 2: my biggest concern is not that we have a great
Speaker 2: running back. That's a good problem to have. I mean,
Speaker 2: and we have a great running back. We have a
Speaker 2: bell cow. We have a guy that like you better
Speaker 2: game plan for Travis Etn because he is that type
Speaker 2: of player. I worry about the number of carrot touches
Speaker 2: because he has one hundred and thirteen or eighteen one thirteen.
Speaker 2: How many catches does he have? He's got twenty something catches.
Speaker 2: It's it is, I got it right here.
Speaker 9: In.
Speaker 6: Twenty one catches. It's fourth on the team. So twenty
Speaker 6: one catches, so twenty four targets. By the way, twenty
Speaker 6: one catches.
Speaker 2: So that's one thirty four, right, one hundred and thirty four,
Speaker 2: and they've played six games. So that's uh, one thirty
Speaker 2: four divided by six people, that's twenty two. If times
Speaker 2: that by seventeen, that's three hundred and seventy nine, three
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty if you round up, because three seventy
Speaker 2: nine point six six three hundred and eighty touches on
Speaker 2: the year, that is a ton.
Speaker 4: And it used to be oh, well that's fine, but
Speaker 4: not anymore.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's too many. Especially, I mean, like
Speaker 2: you need this guy down the stretch and he's not
Speaker 2: built like Derrick Henry. I mean, I agree with.
Speaker 4: You drafted one in the third round. You should be
Speaker 4: able to get some.
Speaker 2: Well that's my point. They have to get either Tank
Speaker 2: Bigsby or de Ernest Johnson going, and they have to
Speaker 2: be able to trust him enough to get those guys
Speaker 2: carries to take some of the load off of ETN.
Speaker 4: What was his carry yesterday? He how many Biggsby get yesterday?
Speaker 5: Bigsby had three carries for two yards yesterday ETN eighteen
Speaker 5: for fifty five a lot of that though the bulk
Speaker 5: of the yardage was in the first half. They were sure.
Speaker 4: There was another there was another to what was that one?
Speaker 2: De Ernest Johnson?
Speaker 4: That was that one? I think there was nobody there
Speaker 4: when he took the But but yeah, it's not a
Speaker 4: great day. They have to get those guys, have to
Speaker 4: get more work.
Speaker 2: They got to get more work because I mean, you
Speaker 2: want etiana his best down the stretch because he's such
Speaker 2: an important part of this team and you want him
Speaker 2: to be able to when when the games matter, which
Speaker 2: they matter now, but like December, you're trying to win
Speaker 2: a division, trying to get a home field, you know,
Speaker 2: a playoff game, everything else like that, and then you
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs and then you want everyone rolling.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's where you give him thirty five touches
Speaker 2: a game, and you need it. You need in games
Speaker 2: like and like here's like a perfect example. You had
Speaker 2: a big lead going into half and coming out of
Speaker 2: half and that game was really never in question if
Speaker 2: you I mean in the second half that those are
Speaker 2: the situations I would have liked to see and dug
Speaker 2: and press say, okay, let's limit Etn's touches the second half.
Speaker 2: Let's like we have a freebie here, we have a
Speaker 2: Thursday night game coming up. Let's rest them. Let's run
Speaker 2: Tank and the earnest and get them a bunch of touches.
Speaker 4: Well, when he played before he was sacked, he got
Speaker 4: a touch to play before Trevor Larns was sacked and
Speaker 4: got hurt, Etn got the touch before that.
Speaker 2: That's my point. I would not have had him in
Speaker 2: there in the second album.
Speaker 4: Neither one of them should have been in there, and that's.
Speaker 2: No but Pete, I would even have limited it more.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how many touches yet in the
Speaker 2: second half.
Speaker 6: As a team, they had twelve rushes in the second half.
Speaker 4: Let me correct myself. They had the ball at the nineteen,
Speaker 4: they went ETN for seven, penalty for the false start,
Speaker 4: then ETN for one, then the sack for the injury.
Speaker 4: Neither one of them should have been in the game
Speaker 4: at that spot.
Speaker 5: ETN in the second half had seven carries for three yards.
Speaker 2: And how many catches do you know?
Speaker 6: ETN in the first half did not have any catches
Speaker 6: in the second half and for the game.
Speaker 5: He had three.
Speaker 2: So that's ten touches in the second half. I could
Speaker 2: argue that he having two to three would have been plenty.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think that game is any different based
Speaker 2: on he only had three yards rushing. Anyways, is if
Speaker 2: you go run, Dearness, you are you have a three
Speaker 2: possession lead. Go run, Dearness, go run Tank. Be good
Speaker 2: for Tank to get reps. I mean, I'm being hyper
Speaker 2: critical here, no doubt about it. But it's more looking at.
Speaker 4: The long view. Yeah, look at the big picture.
Speaker 2: Travis is getting a bunch of touches right now. How
Speaker 2: do you limit those because in big moments, you're gonna
Speaker 2: need him against the Sayings. It's a good defense. It's
Speaker 2: a good football team, not great offensively, but good defense,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna need him. Steelers another great defense. You
Speaker 2: know that's gonna be physical. And then you got to buy.
Speaker 2: Then you have the forty nine Ers, the most maybe
Speaker 2: the most physical team in the NFL, so you have like,
Speaker 2: you have three physical games coming up now. Buy is
Speaker 2: built in there. That's nice and you gotta and you.
Speaker 4: Kind of get the mini by after this.
Speaker 2: Week, right absolutely. But my whole point is, you have
Speaker 2: a running back who is a stud and I think
Speaker 2: you and he's leading the NFL and attempts and my
Speaker 2: guess is probably one of the top guys on total
Speaker 2: touches as well. So how do you You have to
Speaker 2: find moments during the season where either you have a
Speaker 2: big lead and you limit or like the game's over whatever.
Speaker 2: But you got to find those times and I think
Speaker 2: Tank and the earnest are gonna have to step up and
Speaker 2: get more carries.
Speaker 4: I would agree. I agree with you they want I mean,
Speaker 4: you drafted one of those guys in the third round
Speaker 4: with the idea he's going to help take some of
Speaker 4: those carries away. And and I think the ernest has
Speaker 4: showed a little pop when he goes into the game.
Speaker 4: So I mean, yeah, but they shouldn't. They should get
Speaker 4: ten to twelve thirteen touches between the two of them.
Speaker 2: Well, it depends on the flow of the game too,
Speaker 2: Peter g Yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, like yesterday they weren't getting them, but normally
Speaker 4: they should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yesterday, give them ten total and take the
Speaker 2: second half the second half, like, give them majority of
Speaker 2: the touches the second.
Speaker 5: Half, putting ahead. We got to get into defense. They
Speaker 5: had a day yesterday, a.
Speaker 2: Great day, and we probably should spend because I kind
Speaker 2: of waylaid the segment of talking about the injuries because
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a big story Thursday.
Speaker 5: We've got a lot of time to get to that.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of stuff to cover.
Speaker 5: JP.
Speaker 6: There's a lot happening for this four and two football team.
Speaker 6: First place in the AFC South. We'll get to the
Speaker 6: division rankings, and yeah, the Power rankings the all important
Speaker 6: AFC South Power.
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you who's one. It's the team
Speaker 2: with the best record.
Speaker 5: That's not a great tease.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you.
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Speaker 4: That's our identity.
Speaker 3: Everybody comes from a turnover background. When you look at
Speaker 3: guys college careers and stuff.
Speaker 5: We got guys that.
Speaker 3: Fly around your foyer, Devin and they said they both
Speaker 3: got turnover background.
Speaker 5: So that's who we are.
Speaker 3: And then so Joshy and it started in their two
Speaker 3: ps and of Pockey's worried about that, Andy throws balls
Speaker 3: up that we could end us up.
Speaker 6: Andre Cisco one of four takeaways to the Jaguars defense
Speaker 6: yesterday and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour JP. Shadrick,
Speaker 6: Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli were at the Hyundai studios at
Speaker 6: the middle of Electric Center. Tony and I are Pete Stefani,
Speaker 6: South Florida. We're on ten to nextl am Jaguars dot
Speaker 6: Com Jaguars YouTube. That's Andre Cisco part of a defense
Speaker 6: now well, that leaves the league in takeaways fifteen of
Speaker 6: them for the season, eight interceptions, seven fumble recoveries. The
Speaker 6: Jets and the Bills are tied per second, and then
Speaker 6: three other teams are tied for fourth with eleven. Jets
Speaker 6: and Bills each have thirteen takeaways. So the Jaguars are
Speaker 6: getting it done in the takeaway game. And then a
Speaker 6: lot of big reason why, Pete, is they're third in
Speaker 6: the league against the run, and then that sets up
Speaker 6: throwing the football, and they've been fortunate enough and playing
Speaker 6: well enough to get their hands on some footballs this
Speaker 6: year in the back end and then force some takeaways
Speaker 6: on the fumbles as well.
Speaker 4: They've overachieved. I think if you look at it in
Speaker 4: the big picture, and we talked a little bit about
Speaker 4: what Mike Colboll has done a nice job with that group,
Speaker 4: but what are they fifteenth in scoring defense, which, again,
Speaker 4: before the season, if we said they could get to
Speaker 4: ten remember that Tony, they get to the ten to
Speaker 4: twelve range, that they'd have a legitimate chance to even
Speaker 4: win the whole thing. So I think they've done a
Speaker 4: great job. I'll be honest with you, I'm a little
Speaker 4: prized at how well they've played. But we the other
Speaker 4: part of the equation is this. We talked about guys
Speaker 4: taking the next step. Tyson Campbell has taken the next step.
Speaker 4: Andre Cisco certainly has taken the next step. There were
Speaker 4: some really good things shown out there, by the way,
Speaker 4: yesterday from Devin Lloyd. For the first time, I thought
Speaker 4: in a long time, you know, Trayvon Walker as two
Speaker 4: and a half sacks. You know, he's played good football.
Speaker 4: He's just not a great pass rusher. But you had
Speaker 4: that all up and I think that's why you're seeing
Speaker 4: the growth of that defense. And Lucan was out. I
Speaker 4: watched the tape this morning. I thought a Luacon was outstanding.
Speaker 5: On Sunday, fifteen tackles, ten solos.
Speaker 2: He's good every week. Every week he's good. Pete, I
Speaker 2: like how you said it. Guys improving, and I think
Speaker 2: the defense is there's a couple of things that jump
Speaker 2: out of me at watching you know, Josh Allen, I
Speaker 2: mean seven sacks now forced fumbley should.
Speaker 4: Should be tied for the league league because he took
Speaker 4: that one away.
Speaker 2: From should have nine and he had pressure several times
Speaker 2: pushing the guy back in the lap.
Speaker 5: Is he a game wrecker yet.
Speaker 2: He's he's proceeding towards that like, like for me personally,
Speaker 2: game wreckers are the guys.
Speaker 5: You lose sleep over the night before Crosby game wrecker.
Speaker 2: You know Aaron Donald that is, you know, Chris Jones,
Speaker 2: Chris Jones, TJ Von Miller, nymore. But but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I put Josh in that category yet.
Speaker 2: But he's trending and he is like really really good
Speaker 2: and is a like he's the guy that can rush
Speaker 2: the passer right now, I think this.
Speaker 4: Is the best he's played at any point in his career.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he looks great even down the stretch last year.
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought Trayvon had Ice Russia is yesterday, and
Speaker 2: he should have because the rookie he's playing against his
Speaker 2: shouldn't be out there right now. I mean he's I
Speaker 2: think he has a chance to be a good player,
Speaker 2: but he's young, only played a couple of games. And
Speaker 2: it's a little light, you know, well, a little light
Speaker 2: as far as being able to sit down power and
Speaker 2: Trayvon did what he supposed to have, got pushed, did
Speaker 2: a good job.
Speaker 4: You know what else Trayvon does. Tony he plays hard
Speaker 4: and like chases down plays.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he's a He's a really good football player, Pete.
Speaker 4: He chased down a run. I think it was a
Speaker 4: run player or passed and the quick screen to the
Speaker 4: outside and made a play on it. He's he plays hard.
Speaker 4: He recovered that fumble last week at the end of
Speaker 4: the game where he plays hard.
Speaker 2: I think Cisco's a heck of a safety. Heck of
Speaker 2: a safety obviously. Tyson, he was good last year. Ray
Speaker 2: Shawn had a really good game. He's all over the
Speaker 2: place making tackles. We talked about Loukh. I agree with Pete.
Speaker 2: I thought it was Devin Lloyd's best NFL game, best
Speaker 2: game he's played around the ball. If he didn't he.
Speaker 4: Look fast to the first time you looked at it
Speaker 4: and you go, he's fast.
Speaker 2: If he didn't have a cast on his hand, he
Speaker 2: would have had two picks because he has good hands
Speaker 2: and he's proven that in the past. With all that said,
Speaker 2: the best thing this defense does, because I mean I'm
Speaker 2: leaving guys at Roy Robins Harris and great.
Speaker 4: Roy Robertson Harris beats up on Quentin Nelson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every time he did it again.
Speaker 4: I don't get sometimes he must be like that. You know,
Speaker 4: you have that one kid in school. He must be
Speaker 4: that one kid in school. No matter when they play,
Speaker 4: he's gonna just gonna beat him up. Because Quentin Nelson's
Speaker 4: usually he's not as good as he used to be,
Speaker 4: but Roy Robertson Harris pushes him into the backfield. He
Speaker 4: was good.
Speaker 2: I thought thought of costs. He was good yesterday. I mean,
Speaker 2: so the whole unit. But that's not the best thing
Speaker 2: to do. Like Josh being on you know, whether you
Speaker 2: want to say, is a game record And now he's right.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's good, he's playing great football. He's making
Speaker 2: himself a lot of money. And I hope he continues.
Speaker 2: I hope he gets eighteen sacks and just breaks the
Speaker 2: bank and so. But the best thing is none of
Speaker 2: those things, Sono Lucan, I can't wait. The best thing
Speaker 2: is is this group plays great team defense, and that's
Speaker 2: why they get their hands on so many balls, and
Speaker 2: they are in the last three weeks they have been
Speaker 2: a great tackling team. Go look at the yards after catch,
Speaker 2: they're minimal. They come up, they're playing more zone. I
Speaker 2: give Calledwell all the credit in the world. He understands
Speaker 2: what his guys can do where they excel. They're looking
Speaker 2: at the quarterback a lot, and they come up and
Speaker 2: they tackle, guys are stopped where they catch the ball.
Speaker 2: And and you play defense, good team defense, good communication,
Speaker 2: and you tackle well, you're gonna be a good defense.
Speaker 2: Now you might not be top five. Don't need to
Speaker 2: be top five to win it all. You don't need
Speaker 2: to be top five to get into the playoffs. And
Speaker 2: make noise. If you're a solid defense who comes up
Speaker 2: and tackles, communicates, plays a good team. Get your hands
Speaker 2: on the ball, no big plays over the top, keeps
Speaker 2: limited the splash plays. You're gonna be. You're gonna be
Speaker 2: in every game. And that's what this team has done
Speaker 2: five of the six games against the Texans. Against the Texans,
Speaker 2: they just didn't communicate, they didn't tackle. They were bad everywhere.
Speaker 4: We could say this, Tony with certainty. The defense has
Speaker 4: played better than what we expected. While the offense has
Speaker 4: played a little bit worse than I expected.
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, I think that's fair. I would
Speaker 2: I would say it a little different. I said to me,
Speaker 2: the defense is overachieved based on what I was projecting,
Speaker 2: and the offense has underachieved based on what I was expecting,
Speaker 2: because I expected this to be high flying, just breaking
Speaker 2: the scoreboard type of offense, and they're not there yet.
Speaker 5: They were looking at.
Speaker 4: Thirty and two games in large part because of the defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have no, no, no, And I'm not saying
Speaker 2: it's not a good offense. It's not the offense I
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 4: It's not. No, it's not. I thought it would be
Speaker 4: a high flying, aerial attack with Trevors throwing two or
Speaker 4: three touchdown passes and lighting it up. And it hasn't
Speaker 4: been that at all. And and maybe, you know, I
Speaker 4: think that has a chance to come. If that gets
Speaker 4: to that point and this defense is playing like this,
Speaker 4: they're gonna be a deep playoff team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this. If they they've played three straight
Speaker 2: games where they've played really good, complimentary team football like
Speaker 2: they you know, they played some really good like yes,
Speaker 2: special teams. Offense does their job. Defense. Defense could stops offense,
Speaker 2: responds so and so forth. If they would have played
Speaker 2: like that in the two games they lost, they they
Speaker 2: beat both those teams by no. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it easy, but they beat both those teams and
Speaker 2: they're undefeated. I mean that's to Pete's point. If they
Speaker 2: continue to play this type of defense and just approve
Speaker 2: a little bit on offense, just a little, it's one
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the AFC.
Speaker 4: You know, Dwayne Smoot actually did some I was.
Speaker 2: Gonna get to that, Peete.
Speaker 6: And by the way, that Pete, it's Dewan Smoot, Dwan Smooth,
Speaker 6: not Dwayne Want.
Speaker 2: He's only been he's only been here six years. Pete,
Speaker 2: thanks for getting that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: That's embarrassing.
Speaker 4: No, Dwan Smoot, How did he play? I was thinking
Speaker 4: about game record. That's why I got me all worked out.
Speaker 2: I thought Dwan played well and he's gonna only get better.
Speaker 2: He was not back to the level he was before
Speaker 2: he got hurt last year where he's playing really good football.
Speaker 2: But he played good. He had a nice tackle for
Speaker 2: a loss.
Speaker 4: They didn't put him inside much though, a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, but here's what he does, Pete. If you
Speaker 2: watch him, he played thirty two steps. Yes, yeah, he
Speaker 2: did a good job. He played more than I thought
Speaker 2: he was going to. He finds a way to get
Speaker 2: on the edge of guys, and I think it's it
Speaker 2: was it was a little bit late at times. First
Speaker 2: came back, I mean trying to feel his way through it.
Speaker 2: I mean, coming after a major injury like an achilles.
Speaker 2: I think that's only going to get better because that's
Speaker 2: what he did so well last year. He's always on
Speaker 2: the edge. And because he's not like an elite athlete
Speaker 2: as far as professional athletes, I mean every day people.
Speaker 2: He's elite, sure, but it's not like he's like super
Speaker 2: like off the charts strong or off the charts quick
Speaker 2: or off the charts fast, mass up front, not a
Speaker 2: huge man. But he is one of those guys and
Speaker 2: I played against a lot of these guys where he's
Speaker 2: just slippery. He's always on the edge and he's always
Speaker 2: like you just feel like you can't square him up
Speaker 2: exactly all the time.
Speaker 4: How big is he?
Speaker 2: What's he listed at Let's see the official he's not
Speaker 2: taller than six to three. I promise you that no.
Speaker 4: He's got to be sixty two or six.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he wasn't on the flip card because he was
Speaker 6: elevated before the game.
Speaker 4: Hang on, I bet he's six to two and two six.
Speaker 2: I bet you they haven't met six to three.
Speaker 5: Well, let's see here the official what's the official guesses here?
Speaker 2: I got I got six three two six.
Speaker 5: What are you saying?
Speaker 4: Pete seventy five?
Speaker 5: He is officially six three two seventy five on Jaguars
Speaker 5: dot com.
Speaker 4: Okay, what was He's built like Hugh Douglas. He's a
Speaker 4: little taller, but remember this is a square, squatty guy.
Speaker 2: Hugh Douglas was bigger as far as legs and where
Speaker 2: you're end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember Hugh.
Speaker 2: Douglas, like not a huge everybody, but this bottom half
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, he looked like he was a three
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pounds man. I mean just powerful.
Speaker 4: But I know the guy, the kind of guys you're
Speaker 4: talking about. That the guy you look at him and
Speaker 4: you go, boy, he's a sneaky off the edge and
Speaker 4: you don't you don't know why?
Speaker 2: You know who you know who was like that former
Speaker 2: Jag Paul Spicer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Spice, like he just like like.
Speaker 2: I remember practicing Spice only practiced against them, and like
Speaker 2: you look at him, he's like, oh gosh, this is
Speaker 2: not easy. But like he was always on the edge
Speaker 2: and you're always having to work and he's never stopping.
Speaker 2: He's always fighting your hands and he's grabbing a shoulder
Speaker 2: and he's like he's just like it's like and that's
Speaker 2: what he right wants. Move reminds me of that. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's just a good football player.
Speaker 4: By the way, do you think he's only gonna get better?
Speaker 4: Didn't Chase on have a sack yesterday?
Speaker 5: He did? Yes, he did.
Speaker 4: Look at look at he did. He actually chased him down.
Speaker 4: He looked like he was fast on that play.
Speaker 2: Well, Chase on his fast No.
Speaker 4: I know, but I mean he played fast, like a
Speaker 4: past in a straight line.
Speaker 2: He is fast.
Speaker 4: He's like, like, why are you going like.
Speaker 2: This that I was not doing that. My point is,
Speaker 2: if you watch Chase on special teams, he's fast.
Speaker 4: I know he's I don't think he's rushing the past.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a fast change of direction guy,
Speaker 2: or flip your hips or bend the corner or past
Speaker 2: rush move guy.
Speaker 4: Was Abdullah inactive yesterday yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: No, but Chase On again another slid, like like on
Speaker 2: your fifty three man roster. Like everyone's the only reason
Speaker 2: Chase On gets so much criticism because he was a
Speaker 2: first round pick.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 2: If you like you took, if you wiped away where
Speaker 2: he was drafted, you're like, yeah, part of our fifty
Speaker 2: three man. It's he's a good, good football boy.
Speaker 6: We've got to go to break. We'll come back in
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Speaker 5: Now I get paid to play football, I do it.
Speaker 2: Take my body and play football at SOUST.
Speaker 4: Well, I got to continue.
Speaker 5: To keep doing what I've been.
Speaker 9: Doing, and I mean as a running back, as the
Speaker 9: guy you want that, you know you want that. I
Speaker 9: feel like this is why I hit a game to
Speaker 9: get those touches. So I just gotta just lock in
Speaker 9: and just continue who I've been doing to stay healthy.
Speaker 4: That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 6: It's Travis et in Junior after the game yesterday. Quit
Speaker 6: taking those touches away from them.
Speaker 5: Tony.
Speaker 2: He wants them.
Speaker 6: He's ready, He's built for he says Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: First of all, you name a player or running back
Speaker 2: who's said something different.
Speaker 6: Ever, I'm just telling you. I mean, if you start
Speaker 6: turning down carries, you might not get him back.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The only thing that would be more surprising is
Speaker 4: a receiver said he's not open right hey.
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Speaker 6: Yesterday twenty four sixteen, the Texans beat the Saints twenty
Speaker 6: to thirteen. We know what the Jaguars did to the Colts.
Speaker 6: So now the Jaguars are four and two. They're in
Speaker 6: first place in the AFC South Houston at India three
Speaker 6: and three, two and two in the division, Houston three
Speaker 6: and three, one and one in the Division, Tennessee two
Speaker 6: and four zero to one in the division. Those are
Speaker 6: the rankings. Do the power rankings on Jaguars happy, I
Speaker 6: will reflect those. Pete, We'll start with you.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's it's pretty pretty straightforward. I would
Speaker 4: think Jacksonville, Texans, Colts, Titans, and that's the Colts with Minshew.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's quarterback play play well yesterday.
Speaker 4: No, I mean he's like he didn't have at least
Speaker 4: four more passes, big Dolf. He was terrible.
Speaker 5: Thirty three of fifty five passing three twenty nine touchdown,
Speaker 5: three picks for Minshew.
Speaker 4: About two hundred. That was garbage time.
Speaker 2: I don't remember him being that bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you were hopeful.
Speaker 6: I just remember whenever he tried to push it down
Speaker 6: the field. He didn't have the arm to do that.
Speaker 4: There are people around the league that actually believe that
Speaker 4: guy should be starting quarterback in the NFL. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Well he's gonna be starting for a while there.
Speaker 4: It might be starting all year.
Speaker 5: Is it really that bad there, mister s talk.
Speaker 4: Richardson could be gone for the year.
Speaker 5: Wow, Tony Power rankings please quickly.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, uh Jags, Texans, Colts. I actually, actually
Speaker 2: I'm gonna change it. I'm gonna go Jags, Texans, Titans,
Speaker 2: Colt with Minshew, Colts are.
Speaker 5: The last in the because of Minshew.
Speaker 4: I don't know the The Titans are pretty bad and
Speaker 4: their quarterbacks hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Colts Titans.
Speaker 2: I forgot about the injury.
Speaker 5: Yes, a shifting division quarterback thing.
Speaker 4: The offensive line of the Tennessee Titans is so bad
Speaker 4: it's unbelievable. They are so bad.
Speaker 5: How bad are they?
Speaker 4: I mean the center is about two hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: five pounds and can't play. They benched the left tackle.
Speaker 4: He stinks. They have all kinds of issues. If the
Speaker 4: Jaguars can't win against the Titans this year, then they
Speaker 4: may I'm talking about sweeping them. They may never sweep.
Speaker 2: We swept them last year, like I told you we would.
Speaker 4: Did you get both games? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I locked it. Then we'd sweep them.
Speaker 4: We did double lock last double lock.
Speaker 5: Double lock is back. We'll see, We'll see.
Speaker 2: We have to play with this one.
Speaker 6: We've got another hour to figure it out. The second
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Speaker 7: You know, you still want to have the element of
Speaker 7: surprise going into the game, things that maybe haven't shown
Speaker 7: on tape. But listen, you're also going into a place where,
Speaker 7: regardless if it's a Thursday night or a Sunday or
Speaker 7: a Monday night or a Sunday night game, you're going
Speaker 7: into a place it's extremely loud, and so communication is hard,
Speaker 7: and snap counts are hard, and so the more you
Speaker 7: can simplify motions and shifts and you know, just line
Speaker 7: up in stagnant formations, you know can help you. But
Speaker 7: at the same time, you still want to, you know,
Speaker 7: put your guys in positions to you know, have successful
Speaker 7: matchups or at least you know, have some success.
Speaker 5: On the field.
Speaker 6: That's the head coach Doug Peterson earlier today and welcome back.
Speaker 6: It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by
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Speaker 6: After a Jaguars win yesterday over the Colts thirty seven
Speaker 6: to twenty third straight victory for the Jags, the defense
Speaker 6: led the way again four takeaways, including three interceptions, and
Speaker 6: now the Jaguars lead the league in takeaways with fifteen.
Speaker 6: The Jags offense only gained two hundred and thirty three
Speaker 6: total yards, but they had short fields and scored seventeen
Speaker 6: points off those four takeaways. ETN added two more rushing
Speaker 6: scores early, but was quiet in the second half of
Speaker 6: the game, and the Trevor Lawrence knee injury scared the
Speaker 6: heck out of everybody at three or four in the
Speaker 6: fourth quarter. He rolled left in the third down with
Speaker 6: sacked twisted the left knee, and the head coach, of
Speaker 6: course today said he's day today and now it's a
Speaker 6: short week. Onto the Caesars Super du the new Orleans
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Speaker 2: What kind of flavor are the wings?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like, kind of like secret injury for
Speaker 4: the quarterback.
Speaker 2: It's not his jurisdiction, Pete.
Speaker 5: We're all day today, We're all day to day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, Thursday night in New Orleans
Speaker 2: is tough.
Speaker 6: Let's get in a little more into this injury stuff.
Speaker 6: We talked about the quarterback earlier in the first hour. Obviously,
Speaker 6: there's a number of players that are on this list,
Speaker 6: and they have put out an injury report today.
Speaker 2: Let's go through it.
Speaker 6: The Jaguars conducted a walk through today officially it was
Speaker 6: closed to the media, But this injury report is an
Speaker 6: estimation as if the team held a full practice.
Speaker 5: Are you ready?
Speaker 2: Yes? Ready?
Speaker 6: Full today? Devon Hamilton defensive tackle with a back injury.
Speaker 6: We'll see how he put it.
Speaker 4: Sounds like he's pretty he sounds like he's pretty close.
Speaker 6: He talked to the media in the locker room last week,
Speaker 6: so yes, it does kind of feel that way. The
Speaker 6: rest of the players did not practice today. Tyson Campbell
Speaker 6: with a hamstring injury, and Doug Peterson said today he
Speaker 6: might not go Thursday.
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 2: There's no chance he's playing. I mean I watched the
Speaker 2: tape this morning. He clearly grabs a hamstring as he's
Speaker 2: running as teams right, Yeah, it was a punt stafe.
Speaker 2: I mean defense every league, every team across the league
Speaker 2: has a defense out there in punt safe and he
Speaker 2: was just running, not even full speed and he grabs
Speaker 2: that hamstring. So I short week, like, it's not worth
Speaker 2: the risk because if he tried to push it in
Speaker 2: a short week and you'd make it worse. Now you're
Speaker 2: out four to six.
Speaker 4: Like they signed a corner. They signed a corner today too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's he's not going to play.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's out. Okay, you have ruled him out, Coach Baselia, it's.
Speaker 2: Not my juristic. Didn't play very well mon Terrek Brown.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, that second year out of Arkansas. All right.
Speaker 6: One other well, the rest are on offense. Jay Jones
Speaker 6: did not practice today knee injury.
Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if he goes Walker Little did not
Speaker 5: practice today. Be shocked if he goes knee injury.
Speaker 6: Brandon Sheriff ankle injury in the game, left the game,
Speaker 6: did not practice today.
Speaker 2: He is a tough dude. I bet you he tries.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if they let him. Is
Speaker 2: that the same ankle that he heard in unclear unclear piece?
Speaker 4: Is that Indy the last time he played Indye?
Speaker 5: Is that when that happened pretty early?
Speaker 2: I think yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: And then of course Trevor Lawrence with a knee injury,
Speaker 5: did not practice today.
Speaker 2: I think he plays.
Speaker 5: Day to day.
Speaker 2: We're all day to day. I'm just saying I think
Speaker 2: I know nothing. It's out of my jurisdiction to quote
Speaker 2: the head coach, which I love that press conference. A
Speaker 2: big fan of that press con.
Speaker 5: Let's hear that again. By the way, we heard from
Speaker 5: Doug Peterson, you.
Speaker 2: Know, playing that because it's great, it's great radio.
Speaker 6: Doug Peterson asked today in his press conference about the
Speaker 6: status of Trevor Lawrence this week and that left knee.
Speaker 7: Yah, all right, show Trevor, you haven't talked for you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's out of my.
Speaker 4: Strangling a mins or anything like that, or bone bruise
Speaker 4: or what.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's out out of my jurisdiction.
Speaker 4: Is there a sense that may not play Thursday? He's
Speaker 4: day to day.
Speaker 6: God bless Mike Dorocco, just giving it a go there
Speaker 6: and getting nothing.
Speaker 4: Out of it.
Speaker 2: Hey, just so everywhere, hold on, Peter, hold on. He
Speaker 2: just to everyone listening, and then I'll let you go.
Speaker 2: Pete ferg is the head athletic trainer for the Jaguars.
Speaker 4: Just go ahead, Okay, somebody in that rooms are gone.
Speaker 4: Time out. Doug. You're the head coach of this football team,
Speaker 4: and that's out of your jurisdiction. I mean it looks
Speaker 4: foolish to say that. He looks foolish saying that. Just say,
Speaker 4: you don't know. We haven't had that, we haven't got
Speaker 4: all the information yet. I mean, it's out of my jurisdiction.
Speaker 4: The entire buildings in your jurisdiction.
Speaker 5: That's it. You good, Pete well Tony's.
Speaker 4: He's getting so quiet over there because he knows some rock. No.
Speaker 2: I disagree with you. I love the answer. I'm not
Speaker 2: changing my position.
Speaker 4: You don't. You just don't want to say it. How
Speaker 4: could greater repercussions.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, obviously we've gone through the whole scenario,
Speaker 6: the play call and everything that went into it.
Speaker 5: That's happened. Now the question is moving ahead. If he
Speaker 5: doesn't go. CJ. Bethard is the quarterback, what does he
Speaker 5: have twelve starts?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that they aren't winning with CJ.
Speaker 5: Betherd. Why not Pete? There's some other backups in the
Speaker 5: league that won yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know who won yesterday. PJ. Walker won against
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers Because their defense is giving up
Speaker 4: the least amount of yards since nineteen seventy in five games.
Speaker 4: That defense is nasty. Jacksonvill's defense is better. It ain't nasty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Browns defense is really good, really good.
Speaker 4: Think about that, the least amount of yards since nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: Who were they on the point, because that's more important.
Speaker 4: I gotta look, Yeah, there really yards.
Speaker 5: You're probably not getting pointed.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 4: If Jacksonville's defense were able to play to that level,
Speaker 4: then you could win with CJ. Bether So we'll see.
Speaker 6: We'll see what happens at the quarterback spot. The Jaguars
Speaker 6: running back Travis etn leads the league and carries. We
Speaker 6: talked through that tonight and Tony.
Speaker 4: You didn't talk about the offensive line yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what so there's injuries there? How did Hants play
Speaker 6: at right guard when he came in?
Speaker 4: Let me see what ton if Tony agrees with me.
Speaker 4: I thought both tackles played really well in protection. Now
Speaker 4: they're exactly they're not exactly playing Mathison Freeny. I thought
Speaker 4: Shatley was a little bit better this week than he's
Speaker 4: been not. I mean, Fortner had a couple of plays
Speaker 4: where you go, God, what are you doing? And Sheriff
Speaker 4: when he was in there played okay, but then once
Speaker 4: he went out of Hants was okay. Would you agree, Tony?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he. I thought he came in and
Speaker 2: did a good job.
Speaker 4: What'd you think of the tackles. I didn't think they
Speaker 4: were good in the run game, but they were pretty
Speaker 4: solid in pass protection.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought protection was not an issue from either
Speaker 2: tackle at all. And I thought I thought the interior
Speaker 2: three did a better job of handling those two big
Speaker 2: defensive tackles in the past they.
Speaker 4: Did in the in Week one, they destroyed them. Now
Speaker 4: Buckner is getting trapped on one plane and blew on
Speaker 4: up that was Stuart. Yeah was that Sue. Oh Stuart
Speaker 4: was good. Yeah, he just he blew the play up.
Speaker 4: But for the most part they were those two were
Speaker 4: wrecking the game in Week one for a while. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and they did not and they didn't do that.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't think so. Our run game still was
Speaker 2: not great. I think that, you know, I think that
Speaker 2: Colts is a team's a pretty good defense.
Speaker 4: Pete.
Speaker 2: Those two young corners they have especially good, especially in
Speaker 2: that second rounder, the juju. Brent's good French from Kansas State. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a good player.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: They're they lacked the dynamic pass rusher, that's the from
Speaker 4: the edge, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: But they're solid.
Speaker 4: They got the linebackers, can all fly here.
Speaker 2: Franklin is a stud.
Speaker 4: They can fly. Speed played good yesterday.
Speaker 2: Speeds can he can fly. They're good. They're I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not I mean, that's a that's I mean, they
Speaker 2: gave it thirty to seven points. But you know, they're
Speaker 2: putting terrible situations. So we were not great offensively as
Speaker 2: far as running the ball. I mean, you look at
Speaker 2: the numbers. Second half especially, Yeah, second half, we could
Speaker 2: not get it going. I was a little surprised, Like
Speaker 2: if I was gonna be critical of anything, I know
Speaker 2: Pete can't get off the last play the only thing
Speaker 2: going back. I thought it was weird watching it live
Speaker 2: and then watching the tape again. They're up twenty one
Speaker 2: six at half time?
Speaker 5: Is that right?
Speaker 2: They get it right?
Speaker 5: It seems right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they hey, field, that's right, twenty one correct. So
Speaker 2: we get the ball coming out and we throw it,
Speaker 2: we go throw, throw, throw punt like up.
Speaker 5: Twenty one six, Yeah, incomplete short.
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe it's me just as the offensive lineman like,
Speaker 2: come out, like, let's run the ball a little bit complete,
Speaker 2: because they ran the ball decent in the first half.
Speaker 5: And complete deep right to Kirk.
Speaker 2: It just seemed very clunky in the second half.
Speaker 4: It Yeah, it wasn't. There's it's hard to get into
Speaker 4: a rhythm when you're getting point blank stuff scoring and
Speaker 4: then I don't really have to drive the football.
Speaker 2: Like because JP has JP do you have the yards
Speaker 2: by half? Like I'd be curious of the two thirty
Speaker 2: three what they have in the first half compared to
Speaker 2: the second half.
Speaker 6: Give me just a moment, Tony, I can get that.
Speaker 6: The crack research staff here can do that for you.
Speaker 6: The first half total yardage for the Jacksonville Jaguars one
Speaker 6: seventy two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so one seventy two of two thirty three. That's
Speaker 2: an easy Matt twenty eight. That's fifty three. That's fifty
Speaker 2: one now sixty one yards in the second half, compared
Speaker 2: to one to seventy four in the front in the
Speaker 2: first half. Seventy two seventy two in the first half. Sorry,
Speaker 2: and so they's almost.
Speaker 4: It's almost like you got that lead and then it
Speaker 4: was like they went three and out. Then when did
Speaker 4: they get the ball back again in the second half.
Speaker 4: It was by that time, it.
Speaker 2: Was they got it back pretty quick. The defense got
Speaker 2: off right.
Speaker 5: It was more of.
Speaker 2: I definitely felt it calling the game, or at least
Speaker 2: my sense was, there was a lull there in the
Speaker 2: second half, especially on the offensive side.
Speaker 5: And they said as much.
Speaker 2: I think the quarterback said, yeah, just like it was
Speaker 2: like kind of like going through the motions almost, you know.
Speaker 4: I will say this about the offense. The roocky tight
Speaker 4: end looked like he was making some plays. He made
Speaker 4: some plays.
Speaker 2: We had to cut touchdown pass. He struggled. Uh, he
Speaker 2: had the bad penalty at the end.
Speaker 4: His blocking hasn't been as good as I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Some of his blocking is very good.
Speaker 4: He had yeah, but he had been mauling guys in
Speaker 4: the preseason and once it went for real, that was
Speaker 4: the end of that.
Speaker 2: Well, he had a couple of good molds, but he Uh.
Speaker 2: The part of their game plan was the wham, which
Speaker 2: is like a trap play for those listening, kind of
Speaker 2: misdirection trap. They were gonna wham using Strange on on
Speaker 2: uh Groverer Stewart. No, they wanted to when they went on.
Speaker 2: They wanted to grow. They wanted to wham grower Stewart.
Speaker 2: That was their plan and did not work very well
Speaker 2: because Grover Stewart literally blew up Strange.
Speaker 5: Grover is like a huge guy.
Speaker 2: Well it's a good point. I mean it's a good
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to do a better job. It
Speaker 2: didn't get a sack yes up the field. Now I
Speaker 2: blame that on Trevor, because Trevor shar if he's just
Speaker 2: stays in the pocket, steps up, I think he can
Speaker 2: get he doesn't get sacked. He tried to get outside
Speaker 2: and Buckner got him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like Grover Stewart six four three fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and who's ninety three for them, because he's the other.
Speaker 5: Guy we tried to win Johnson six nine, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's another guy that didn't. The WAM didn't work.
Speaker 5: Bretton Strange as six four, two fifty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was he's gotta go again.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get he's gotta get lowered.
Speaker 4: He hasn't been as good blocking as he was early
Speaker 4: in the prese when in the preseason I thought he
Speaker 4: was going to be one of those all time maulers.
Speaker 4: And he still might end up being that. But he's
Speaker 4: he's willing. I mean, he doesn't and you're right, Tony,
Speaker 4: there's sometimes you watch him to go, wow, we just
Speaker 4: cleaned out that whole side over there. But the fact
Speaker 4: that he caught the ball and had a little juice
Speaker 4: that that's that was a good sign.
Speaker 2: I think Brent Strange gonna be a good player, like
Speaker 2: I think like I like her tight ends.
Speaker 4: Every time I see certain things happening around the league
Speaker 4: and I think about Josh Oliver could have been block
Speaker 4: He's one of the better blocking tight ends in the league.
Speaker 4: They ran them off well and Quincy Williams playing some
Speaker 4: of the best linebacks.
Speaker 2: He cows. He good.
Speaker 5: He got run off too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they drafted four different guys to try
Speaker 4: and replace him.
Speaker 2: Quincy Williams is really good. Pete isn't he. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen a bunch of them.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable, how much better he's become.
Speaker 2: I watched like the end of that uh because the
Speaker 2: CBS cut to them, or maybe it was Fox. I
Speaker 2: can't remember which game I was watching. It cut to
Speaker 2: the end of the Eagles Jets game, and that dude
Speaker 2: flies around.
Speaker 4: It's it's amazing he's got and he's much more. Remember
Speaker 4: used to get lost all the time in champ lost.
Speaker 2: I think he was on you know, on the middle
Speaker 2: of the woods with no compass, but they gave up
Speaker 2: on him.
Speaker 5: All right, let's come back. We're gonna keep it real
Speaker 5: when we come back.
Speaker 2: We have not been doing that yet.
Speaker 5: No, not yet. And it's about injuries. Okay, s do it?
Speaker 5: You seem excited?
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Speaker 5: You guys have been doing that for a long time too.
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Speaker 6: It has to do with the Jaguars injuries and your
Speaker 6: concern level. Let's use the def con system as a
Speaker 6: gauge today. Deaf Con five is not really concerned. Def
Speaker 6: Con four is above that, deaf Con three is okay,
Speaker 6: we're getting ready for something. Deaf Con two is we're
Speaker 6: one step away. And then def Con one was we're
Speaker 6: in it and we got to make some moves and
Speaker 6: do some things.
Speaker 2: This is the injuries.
Speaker 5: This is the injuries.
Speaker 6: With all the injuries right now for the Jaguars, deaf
Speaker 6: con level of concern for you, five is lowest.
Speaker 5: One is the most concerned.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that Trevor's fine, because if Trevor's not fine,
Speaker 2: it's death come one.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, so I'm assuming he's fine, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put it at deaf com four.
Speaker 5: Not too concerned, not too.
Speaker 4: Concerned, No, because Little will be back.
Speaker 5: Everyone on that list is coming back, right, not done
Speaker 5: for the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a four. It's definitely a four.
Speaker 4: If Trevor's missing time.
Speaker 2: It's a one or two.
Speaker 4: It's a one or two, particularly with the game's coming up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Now, I mean if it's a one, in theory, you're
Speaker 6: making moves to get somebody in to fill some.
Speaker 4: Of the You're not gonna make a move for quarterback.
Speaker 5: No, not that, but the other positions.
Speaker 2: Right when I think of death come one, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe go get somebody. You only have two weeks to
Speaker 2: do that because the trade led deadline's over thirty First,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking more in the context of, like, yeah, pretty
Speaker 2: much what we were hoping for this year is not
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
Speaker 4: So if but if you go into Trevor's like a
Speaker 4: deaf Con four, I mean, uh right, right now, Jay
Speaker 4: Jones is a deaf Con five, You're not. He'll be
Speaker 4: back Walker Little, Walker Little will be back in a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. Sheriff will be back.
Speaker 1: So none of them are that concerning the collection, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean the collection right, The collection for this
Speaker 1: week is a little bit more concerning.
Speaker 2: Maybe it gets to a three, but the reality is
Speaker 2: the longest injury on that list is most likely Tyson
Speaker 2: Campbell's the hamstring because soft tissue. That's the one. Like,
Speaker 2: if you read all those injuries again, assuming Trevor's fine,
Speaker 2: which I believe he is, all those injuries like, the
Speaker 2: most concerning the unknown is Tyson because soft tissue. Hammy's
Speaker 2: in a position like corner. You just don't know those things.
Speaker 4: How do they play that this week? Because who starts on.
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Speaker 6: Robert Mundavi. Excually the injuries, if they for some reason
Speaker 6: get Devon Hamilt's in the back, what would that do
Speaker 6: for the defensive line?
Speaker 2: A depth? I mean, I mean if he gets back
Speaker 2: to the level that he was in the preseason. I
Speaker 2: mean in camp he was their best defensive lineman.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it gives more than just depth. It
Speaker 4: gives them another power player in there.
Speaker 5: Already pretty good against the run, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you get a big body like that and
Speaker 4: he I think then they could be really good against it,
Speaker 4: really special against the run. If you get him back
Speaker 4: in there and he's playing like he was before the injury,
Speaker 4: and you have Ponticasi who's healthy it looks like fine
Speaker 4: league member because he was banged up all last year.
Speaker 4: And then Roy Robertson Harris, you should play every game
Speaker 4: like he has Quentin Nelson across from him, and those
Speaker 4: linebackers start running the way, even the way Lloyd's running
Speaker 4: right now because he played fast on Sunday. Yeah, all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you have the makings of a triangle
Speaker 4: in there that's gonna make it hard to run the football.
Speaker 2: Well, it already is hard to run the football, but
Speaker 2: I mean even you know what I mean? Really yeah,
Speaker 2: even more difficult. Yeah. Yeah, they're doing a good job
Speaker 2: against the run so far.
Speaker 6: It's time to check Yes to see country music legend
Speaker 6: George Straight with Chris Stapleton and Little Big Town May eleventh,
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four at EverBank Stadium. Get your tickets ahead
Speaker 6: of the general public. Venue pre sale starts Tuesday, October seventeenth.
Speaker 6: That's tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Wow, when is the concert?
Speaker 6: May eleventh, twenty twenty four. Okay, check yeah at EverBank
Speaker 6: Stadium dot com. You get your special pre sale code, Tony,
Speaker 6: will you have a box for the Do you get that.
Speaker 5: With the gold jacket?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 5: How does that work? What is the normal protocol?
Speaker 2: It does not come with the gold jacket that I
Speaker 2: know of. I would welcome it if it did, because
Speaker 2: I'm a big country music fan. As you know. I'll
Speaker 2: be making some phone calls just some of the some
Speaker 2: people I know, remember your boy, Yes, I will.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Never forget Pete, you want to come up for it.
Speaker 2: Pete doesn't even like country.
Speaker 5: Pete's not even listening. He gave up. But now he's
Speaker 5: saying questions.
Speaker 6: Next is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.
Speaker 7: Part on us, part on players, right, I mean, we
Speaker 7: put our players in situations where we have to understand
Speaker 7: the situation. So, you know, we had talked about taking
Speaker 7: the short sack in a situation like that, if you
Speaker 7: don't feel like you can get outside, you just you
Speaker 7: go down. And you know, so part of that's on
Speaker 7: the player, and then we can coach that better, we
Speaker 7: can emphasize that more. But the play call, I'm one
Speaker 7: hundred percent you know behind the play call. It's it's
Speaker 7: something that a lot of teams do in situations like
Speaker 7: that to get the quarterback on the edge.
Speaker 5: You know, they're they're.
Speaker 7: Defensively there, they're pinching gaps and their edge pressures, and
Speaker 7: it's a good way of getting your quarterback on the
Speaker 7: perimeter to get the first down and pretty much ice
Speaker 7: the game at that point. But and then again, as
Speaker 7: coaches too, we can instruct our quarterback better, coach him
Speaker 7: better and understand that if you can't get outside, just
Speaker 7: just go down.
Speaker 6: That's the head coach Doug Peterson today on the play
Speaker 6: call late in the game, Trevor Lawrence dinged his knee
Speaker 6: up on that play. Jaguars got to win yesterday over
Speaker 6: the Colts, though, and Jaguars Happy Hour continues. The second
Speaker 6: Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings, JP Shadwick. Tony
Speaker 6: Boselli here in Jacksonville at the mill Or Electric Center. Yes,
Speaker 6: we are here in person. It's great to see you, Tony.
Speaker 6: Pete Prisco is down in South Florida. It's also great
Speaker 6: to see you virtually.
Speaker 5: Pete.
Speaker 2: You're looking good. Pete. Hey, Pete, I got so We
Speaker 2: hotly debated this in the first hour, and you and
Speaker 2: I disagree. You think it was I think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: quote you stupid brain dead call to quote Pete Prisco.
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, Yeah, I don't. That's exactly what
Speaker 2: you said. I was okay with it, Pete. Would you
Speaker 2: been okay with it? If the play was called and
Speaker 2: as soon as Trevor saw those guys come on the
Speaker 2: field just fell down, took.
Speaker 4: A knee, there's no reason to call.
Speaker 2: You didn't answer the question, Pete.
Speaker 4: Would you.
Speaker 2: You would? It would have never come up, and you
Speaker 2: would never have said that's a bad call. If you
Speaker 2: had taken a knee and falling down. Ever, and if
Speaker 2: it would have worked, you would have been like, that's genius.
Speaker 2: Winter Vassally on this debate, he can't answer JP.
Speaker 4: Designed, what Tody? What's the end side?
Speaker 2: Who won?
Speaker 5: Go ahead?
Speaker 4: But the end game of that of that play working.
Speaker 4: Tell me you just said if it works.
Speaker 2: First hour, first down, first down, first down, take me
Speaker 2: to milk the clock, melt the clock.
Speaker 5: They said, to milk the clock, melt the clock.
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, you don't know, what if?
Speaker 4: What if with three minutes left and they have no timeouts,
Speaker 4: they're up to what if?
Speaker 2: What if they what if they?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: What's the would not if they make it? It's not
Speaker 2: one hundred percent you're gonna make it. What if it
Speaker 2: gets blocked? What if it gets blocked? What if it
Speaker 2: gets blocked? What if it gets blocked? We've already had
Speaker 2: one block this year.
Speaker 4: Your your defense of that call is ridiculous. And the
Speaker 4: fact is I could see your face that you're not
Speaker 4: you don't even believe I believe it.
Speaker 2: I believe it. You can't see you obviously are blind.
Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, I'm I would we.
Speaker 4: Should be able to put a poll up for the
Speaker 4: fans on Twitter and say who do you who do
Speaker 4: you agree with? Pete or Tony? I guarantee you every
Speaker 4: single one of them would agree with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're all reacting to him getting hurt, not
Speaker 2: the play call.
Speaker 4: Well, the play calls the reason he got that's not.
Speaker 2: Don just said it. If they did a better job
Speaker 2: of coaching and reminding him, and if he did a
Speaker 2: better job of understanding the situation.
Speaker 4: What is that situation? What if he twisted to go
Speaker 4: out and he pulled and he tore his knee up?
Speaker 2: Because what if he trips on the blade of grass,
Speaker 2: go to the sideline and hurts himself. Stope, you're ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And eat n Like you said, shouldn't have been in
Speaker 4: there taking handoffs either.
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Who would you.
Speaker 4: Agree at seventeen points in two and a half minutes
Speaker 4: left and no timeouts at the game's over.
Speaker 2: Yes, but they at that point, it was at that
Speaker 2: point it was a fourteen point game, wasn't seventeen.
Speaker 4: But if you hand off, they run, run the clock,
Speaker 4: kick your field goal the game zone.
Speaker 2: What if they block it, turn for a touchdown.
Speaker 4: And you're up fourteen point?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: No, you're up seven at that point, they block it,
Speaker 2: return it.
Speaker 4: Okay, in any way, shape or form, is any one
Speaker 4: of those scenarios worse than your quarterback getting his knee twisted?
Speaker 2: There's thee is the quarterback twisting if he takes a knee?
Speaker 5: He got him on that one. If he takes a knee,
Speaker 5: no stumbled.
Speaker 2: I'm responding what Doug said. If they did a better job.
Speaker 4: Is them blocking the field goal and returning it for
Speaker 4: a touchdown worse than the quarterback at his knee twisted
Speaker 4: and maybe not playing on Thursday night? And I will
Speaker 4: say this, you can't answer that question.
Speaker 2: I can't. I did answer. I'm answering. I'm what Doug said.
Speaker 2: I'm with Doug on this. Doug said they should have
Speaker 2: done a better job as coaches to coach him up better.
Speaker 2: If there's rushes in your face, fall down, coach him
Speaker 2: up to hand the ball off.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's more of a chance of them blocking
Speaker 6: a fifty one yard field goal attempt than there is
Speaker 6: a what thirty four yard attempt it would have been.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's just play the worst. The worst case scenario
Speaker 4: is they don't get the first down by running the ball.
Speaker 4: He goes out, he kicks the field goal, they block
Speaker 4: it and return it is Is that worse than the
Speaker 4: quarterback franchise quarterback having his knee twisted and maybe not
Speaker 4: playing on Thursday?
Speaker 2: But you're missing my point. I'm responding to what Doug Peterson.
Speaker 4: Said, should have been an attorney because I abuse the witness.
Speaker 2: That's not true. You're you're not abusing anyone. You're just like.
Speaker 4: My question.
Speaker 2: I did answer your question.
Speaker 4: Is his is the worst case scenario in that game?
Speaker 2: Your question isn't relevant to my point. Maybe if you
Speaker 2: watched more law shows, you'd be there'd be an objection
Speaker 2: and you'd be thrown out of court for introducing you're
Speaker 2: introducing evidence that it's not relevant to the conversation.
Speaker 5: Do they still show Matt Locke, by the way, worst.
Speaker 4: Scenario of all of it is he misses time because
Speaker 4: they called that play.
Speaker 2: That's the worst right now? Who's that the lawyer on
Speaker 2: my cousin, Vinnie. No, Yeah, that's what you look like.
Speaker 2: That's how you are.
Speaker 4: No, I'm the greatest abusing you. I'm announcing you m
Speaker 4: worst case scenarios. He doesn't play on Thursday, worst of all,
Speaker 4: or or if it was worse and he missed three
Speaker 4: to four weeks.
Speaker 6: Vincent Gambinius, who you're thinking of? That was his real name,
Speaker 6: and my cousin Vinny.
Speaker 5: Joe played the part Joe. He had like three different names.
Speaker 5: That's a great.
Speaker 4: He's getting off on the beat, abused them, Pete.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say this one last time.
Speaker 5: This is it.
Speaker 2: This is the final, final thing. All I'm saying your
Speaker 2: question is not relevant. My point was that would I
Speaker 2: agree with what Doug said if it was executed better
Speaker 2: and coached better where if the rushers come at the
Speaker 2: field he fell down, it would have been about a
Speaker 2: five yard six yard loss and we wouldn't be talking
Speaker 2: about this and they would have kicked the field goal.
Speaker 4: Can I have the final word?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay please? If the play isn't called, you don't have
Speaker 4: to put him in a spot where he has to
Speaker 4: make the damn decision. And the other part of that is,
Speaker 4: I go back to the worst case scenario is he's
Speaker 4: gonna miss time. The worst case scenario is your scenario
Speaker 4: is they block the field goal, return it and make
Speaker 4: it a seven point game. Oh boy, is that worse
Speaker 4: than the quarterback having his kneet messed up.
Speaker 6: No, I win the two uts, may or may not
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Speaker 6: we've come up with. Maybe at duvall Gator etn leads
Speaker 6: the league and carries I'm worried they're running him too
Speaker 6: much and they use him up before the playoffs start.
Speaker 6: Would you like to see Johnson or Biggs may get more,
Speaker 6: carries him as fresh as possible.
Speaker 2: Yes, we already talked about this. Yes, we're an agreed.
Speaker 2: Great question from one all Gator, very astute of understanding
Speaker 2: the game. In the situation, I would agree one hundred
Speaker 2: percent with them.
Speaker 5: Yes, calling the playoffs already.
Speaker 6: Oh we're going come on that next next question that
Speaker 6: Britt Jagg. What percentage does Trevor Lawrence need to be
Speaker 6: at for him to play? And if he's not close
Speaker 6: to one hundred, do you risk him on a short
Speaker 6: week behind a beat up offensive line.
Speaker 2: Nobody's one hundred percent in this league at this time.
Speaker 2: If Trevor, if he's cleared medically, he plays it. It's
Speaker 2: as simple. It's as simple aside, don't give me this
Speaker 2: all percentages? And is he fifty eighty ninety?
Speaker 4: Who knows?
Speaker 2: How do you measure that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: I don't understand what that can play.
Speaker 4: You play, if you're medically cleared, you play.
Speaker 5: I'm about eighty one point three.
Speaker 4: You're Sean Watson and get cleared and don't play.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting story right there. That's a whole nother
Speaker 2: show that. That's our personal podcast. We could I could
Speaker 2: unload on this scene, but I'm gonna leave it alone.
Speaker 2: Keep going. We have better things to talk about.
Speaker 6: It's great, uh at totally, Chad. If Campbell is out
Speaker 6: on Thursday, who do you put opposite of Darius Williams?
Speaker 6: Do you put Herndon outside and start Johnson at Nickel corner?
Speaker 6: Or put Johnson outside Antonio Johnson rookie safety?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't betray You're not gonna put on Antonio
Speaker 2: Johnson out there.
Speaker 4: I would not.
Speaker 2: I would. I would put Trey Herndon out there and
Speaker 2: then kick Herndon back into Nickel and maybe I'm on
Speaker 2: Terra during Nick during Nicol or one scenario. If they're
Speaker 2: comfortable with Antonio Johnson playing corner, I mean, excuse me
Speaker 2: Nickel after being out as long as he was in
Speaker 2: the fact that he is a rookie, and Nichols a
Speaker 2: tough position, and Tray's a heck of a blitzer and
Speaker 2: does so many good things in the run. If they're confident,
Speaker 2: then maybe with Tray outside and Johnson inside. But I
Speaker 2: would probably go start with Trey, Darius Williams and you know,
Speaker 2: in regular personnel, go to Nickel, kick Trey down and
Speaker 2: bring Monty, Eric Brown.
Speaker 4: And and and Brown. In fairness to him, he was
Speaker 4: thrown into it on side, but he didn't play very well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I I can't disagree with that, Pete, but
Speaker 2: I think that's what I would do. You know, Antonio,
Speaker 2: there's no other options I not that I know of.
Speaker 2: Antonio Johnson is not gonna. I would not play him
Speaker 2: outside corner.
Speaker 4: No, heck no, he's not. He's not an outside No.
Speaker 2: Now, if you have confidence, do you roll him in
Speaker 2: there on some Nickel? Possibly, but Trey's really good at nickel.
Speaker 2: Why do you want to weaken that spot?
Speaker 4: Weren't they thinking about using him as a nickel when
Speaker 4: he if he had been healthy to start the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he, but he didn't win the job. And
Speaker 2: Trey is playing well in this style of defense.
Speaker 4: And what are the options if they could go to uh.
Speaker 5: I mean you bring in another safety, a winger, Daniel Thomas.
Speaker 2: Somebody has to play corner.
Speaker 5: And none of those guys are playing though big nickel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I mean Antonio Johonathan No.
Speaker 5: So Johnson is probably the option.
Speaker 2: But that's why I if it was me and these guys,
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, my call will know this personnel way
Speaker 2: better than I do just watching. And because I always
Speaker 2: worry about weakening two positions, here's another because if you
Speaker 2: have I mean, Trey's playing good, Nicholas a great bleacher,
Speaker 2: good in the run defense.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing against the Saints. You could put Antonio
Speaker 4: Johnson on Michael Thomas. You I don't the other guys
Speaker 4: like Shah, those little quick guys that give him some problems.
Speaker 2: But Pete, they're playing. They're playing, and I don't know
Speaker 2: the exact percentage. I bet you they're playing seventy five
Speaker 2: eighty percent zone. You're not putting on anybody.
Speaker 6: By the way, the Jags did sign a corner back
Speaker 6: to the practice squad today, Amani I believe is how
Speaker 6: you say?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was he was with the Giants practice squad.
Speaker 6: The Jags also have Von Campbell in the practice squad
Speaker 6: at corner. They've got Eric Hallett, the second a rookie
Speaker 6: at corner on the practice squad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who's the other active corner beside that they have.
Speaker 6: It's oh, they put on oh, they put they put
Speaker 6: one on a reserve list. Christian Braswell's Yeah, he got
Speaker 6: dinged up.
Speaker 4: But and he might have been an option to play,
Speaker 4: but not anymore. No, but yeah, that's a problem. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, look if Brown and fairness to him, he
Speaker 4: got thrown in there, he probably you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's a little different scenario when you know you're actually
Speaker 4: gonna start the game.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 2: I'm on the record. Herndon starts outside, monterk Brown comes in,
Speaker 2: and Nickel to the outside. Carter and kicked down Herndon.
Speaker 5: Nickel. Let the record reflect. Are we still in the courtroom? Yeah,
Speaker 5: sounds like you need to type it out.
Speaker 4: He was on trial. He took the stand in his
Speaker 4: own defense, and now he's going to jail.
Speaker 2: For about I rest my case, your honor.
Speaker 6: Next question at Reno Hide Tower twenty one. Bigger need
Speaker 6: o line depth or pass rush depth?
Speaker 2: No boy for what the trade deadline.
Speaker 5: I think in general they.
Speaker 4: All want they all want the Neil Hunter.
Speaker 2: I know you never can have enough pass rushers on
Speaker 2: your team, but.
Speaker 5: Neil Hunters tied for the league leading sacks, by the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean the Vikings they lose again this week.
Speaker 2: I mean the season's over, they played it.
Speaker 4: They played the Niners this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the season's over and they can't franchise them.
Speaker 2: And the Neil Hunter is gonna go somewhere else. So
Speaker 2: why not get some trade back up you give up
Speaker 2: for him? Uh? Fourth fifth is rental?
Speaker 4: Get it?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean anything more pete than you
Speaker 2: have to you have to have plans to sign them.
Speaker 4: Right, I went for a rental, I'd give up. I'd
Speaker 4: give up a four for them.
Speaker 2: That's what I just said, four, four or five.
Speaker 4: I just don't think the Vikings would take that. I
Speaker 4: think they get a better offer somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean somebody probably would give them maybe a
Speaker 2: two or three, knowing that they're going to try to
Speaker 2: sign him to a long term deal.
Speaker 4: I mean, can you imagine if you traded away to
Speaker 4: sadly here and got a fourth folour.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's gonna happen either to your point,
Speaker 2: but I don't I'd be surprised if the Jags go
Speaker 2: and trade a second or third for Daniel Hunter because
Speaker 2: you're basically sending the message that we're gonna we need
Speaker 2: to sign them. And this is the risk beat and
Speaker 2: you know this. You trade a high pick, first second rounder,
Speaker 2: maybe a third, but first or second for sure for
Speaker 2: a player during the season who's contracts up. Guess who
Speaker 2: has all the leverage at that point.
Speaker 5: Hmm, you got that right, and it ain't the team.
Speaker 4: Well here here's the other thing. Here's the other thing.
Speaker 4: You talk about a third or a second. If the
Speaker 4: third goes for Ridley, right, if he reaches his numbers
Speaker 4: and if they sign him to an extension, it goes
Speaker 4: to that becomes their second second.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 4: So there's a problem with trade knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all kinds. That's why I don't think it
Speaker 2: probably happens.
Speaker 4: But unless unless you want to trade a twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five pick for him, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But second again, it depends are you planning on
Speaker 2: signing him?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I would think, yeah, you can't sign
Speaker 4: him in Josh Allen, that's for sure. No. One.
Speaker 6: Last question at Selo's underscore Santana. I think this is
Speaker 6: really the Carlos Santana. No, I don't know if it is.
Speaker 6: Can we beat the Saints even if Little Sheriff, Campbell's
Speaker 6: a Jones and Lawrence.
Speaker 4: Are all out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything can happen on the football field that.
Speaker 4: Their offense isn't very Like Tony said, their car looks
Speaker 4: like he's struggling.
Speaker 2: Well, let's just be clear. Little's not playing, Campbell's not.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna play. I mean my guess
Speaker 2: is Little Campbell and Zay are not gonna play. I
Speaker 2: think Sheriff gives a go. Question is will they let him?
Speaker 2: Will they let him? Tough guy? Not that those other
Speaker 2: guys aren't tough, just different injuries. And I think Lawrence
Speaker 2: is going so I don't think it. But if Lawrence,
Speaker 2: I mean, if Lawrence doesn't play, it's an uphill battle.
Speaker 2: Nothing in CJ bether but he's the backup for a reason,
Speaker 2: and it changes how you can play now can c J?
Speaker 2: Can CJ get you through a game? Yes, but it's
Speaker 2: it's a much it's a much steeper hill to climb
Speaker 2: with him at quarterback than Trevor.
Speaker 4: Hey one, you didn't get to this question. This really happened,
Speaker 4: This didn't happen? What is the collective Jaguars happy? Our
Speaker 4: response on being called out directly by the announcers calling
Speaker 4: Josh Allen game record during the TV broadcast? Did that happen?
Speaker 2: I don't watch.
Speaker 4: I didn't hear it either. Did they call us out
Speaker 4: or they call well.
Speaker 5: They I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: That'd be great if we made national.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just our big break. Spirou and Arch got us.
Speaker 4: Josh is playing great football, He's playing outstanding football. He's
Speaker 4: making a boatload of money. Happy for him.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm the biggest take.
Speaker 4: I'll take three for motivating him.
Speaker 5: It's a discount.
Speaker 2: We played a clip earlier and if you're just joining us,
Speaker 2: you might have missed it where they interviewed Josh Allen
Speaker 2: and he was talking about his sat his sack. It
Speaker 2: was a first down sack. They were in run personnel
Speaker 2: run you know, you know basically first down and what
Speaker 2: Josh had said. And I knew this. I know this
Speaker 2: about Josh have talking to him and everything else. He
Speaker 2: is a voracious film studier, and he said through his
Speaker 2: film study and obviously with coaches and on his own
Speaker 2: and everything else, he knew that the tip was in
Speaker 2: that personnel grouping in that formation that they throw the
Speaker 2: ball and so on first down, where typically you're kind
Speaker 2: of playing running, you know, playing the run, reacting to
Speaker 2: the past. He put a full pass rush move, got
Speaker 2: the edge, bent the corner, put a great speed rip
Speaker 2: rush and got the sack fumbled. And so what I
Speaker 2: like about hearing that, and I knew it about him
Speaker 2: is it's not just about it being a great athlete.
Speaker 2: He is learning and he's becoming a he's been a
Speaker 2: true pro. So I don't want to say it's all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, but that just gives you a little
Speaker 2: bit of an insight, a little behind the scenes look
Speaker 2: that this guy is spending a lot of time on
Speaker 2: the mental side of the game of understanding what they're
Speaker 2: presenting to them to him and how can he take
Speaker 2: advantage of that. And I just loved that clip. I
Speaker 2: loved how he talked about it, and that's the type
Speaker 2: of guys you want your team.
Speaker 4: It's important to what else, you know what else. He's
Speaker 4: having his best year, he's playing his best football. It
Speaker 4: just goes to show you how important those OTAs are
Speaker 4: to be a good football player. He wasn't around at all,
Speaker 4: was he.
Speaker 2: Let's not talk about that right now.
Speaker 6: Kick off the second half of the season at the
Speaker 6: Bank when the Jaguars take on the San Francisco forty
Speaker 6: nine Ers Sunday, November twelve. Kickoff set for one o'clock
Speaker 6: PM for now at least, and tickets are going fast.
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Speaker 6: see you there at the Bank, by the way. Week ten,
Speaker 6: Sunday Night Football. Just for the record, but the record
Speaker 6: reflex Sunday Night Football is Jets at Raiders that week.
Speaker 6: He'll turn Tony's.
Speaker 5: Back on real quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that game gets flexed the Niners Jacks. No,
Speaker 2: I think they flex out. Yeah, And I think it's
Speaker 2: either us in the Niners or I think it's Chargers Detroit.
Speaker 6: Very interesting. A few weeks away. A lot of football
Speaker 6: left between now and then. We'll go around in the
Speaker 6: NFL and close it out when we come back as
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Speaker 6: Tony Bisselli and Pete Prisco after a Jaguars win three
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Speaker 6: three Saints this Thursday at the Superdome in New Orleans.
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Speaker 6: Let's take a look around the National Football League. Some
Speaker 6: highlights yesterday Commanders over the Falcons twenty four to sixteen.
Speaker 6: I just saw Pete a video of Arthur Smith like
Speaker 6: putting his hands on his head after a play.
Speaker 5: What happened? What was the deal with that?
Speaker 2: It was a pick? It was the Rider interception at
Speaker 2: the end that.
Speaker 4: They had the illegal procedure penalty on the goal line
Speaker 4: on a short yard of situation, they would have ted,
Speaker 4: could have had to tie the game. I think that's
Speaker 4: what it was.
Speaker 5: No good, not good at all.
Speaker 4: No, it was a delay of game, is what it was.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: That's even worse. Yes, well they're equally bad.
Speaker 6: I suppose Vikings over the Bears nineteen to three. Badgeant
Speaker 6: play in the game. He played at D two in
Speaker 6: West Virginia last year.
Speaker 4: At Shepherd at Shepherd College. Who is he? Tyler Badge
Speaker 4: and he played at Shepherd College. He's a rookie. He
Speaker 4: came in because Fields might have a broken thumb.
Speaker 6: Wow, I mean that was like one of the first
Speaker 6: times I've never heard of that guy playing quarterback in
Speaker 6: the NFL.
Speaker 5: I've never heard of him.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of him either.
Speaker 5: So he's a rookie, very rare.
Speaker 6: Bengals over the Seahawks seventeen to thirteen thirteen.
Speaker 4: The Seahawks couldn't They were in the red zone about
Speaker 4: eighteen thousand times and couldn't score.
Speaker 2: So that's the second win of the season. So the
Speaker 2: Bengals are what two and four now, Oh, they're three
Speaker 2: and three, three and three, they're right back in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Joe Burrow's healthy again, and yeah, they get
Speaker 4: a bye this week and then they're back to ready
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 6: Yeap Browns over the Niners, and a field goal pushed
Speaker 6: to the right by a foot at the end missed it.
Speaker 5: Brown's win.
Speaker 4: Well, they have a rookie kicker and they could have
Speaker 4: kept it Vetter, and they decided to keep the rookie
Speaker 4: and he missed it. They didn't play very well. They
Speaker 4: have a lot of injuries to you talk about injuries.
Speaker 4: Trent Williams hurt, Christian McCaffrey hurt, Deebos Deebo, Samuel hurt.
Speaker 2: Was Trent got hurt in the game because I know
Speaker 2: he started a videound.
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett got.
Speaker 4: Hurt that he got hurt again?
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 4: What happened?
Speaker 2: What's Trent's injury? He's my favorite offensive lineman foot.
Speaker 5: I think it was Miles Garrett that actually lifted him
Speaker 5: and threw him.
Speaker 2: He did not.
Speaker 5: I watched the play. What happened. It wasn't like Uggie White, No,
Speaker 5: it was he.
Speaker 2: Was like trying to jumps at him and run block him,
Speaker 2: and and uh, Miles Garrett, he's a great player. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and watch that tape because I
Speaker 2: want to watch them go against each other until Tran
Speaker 2: gets hurt. He uses his body to push him kind
Speaker 2: of moves them and then I mean it looks but like, no,
Speaker 2: it's Williams a great player. Trent Williams a great player.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Miles great Garrett's a great player.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go watch that tape because i want
Speaker 2: to see the two of them go at it. And
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed here Trank got hurt because I think he's
Speaker 2: my favorite offensive lineman that in the league that's not
Speaker 2: a Jaguar.
Speaker 6: Dolphins over the Panthers forty two twenty one. Panthers had
Speaker 6: a fourteen to nothing lead that evat orated a hurry
Speaker 6: and Tyreek's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: They're bad and they don't have a first round pick.
Speaker 2: They don't have a first round pick next year.
Speaker 4: No, they traded to Chicago for uh.
Speaker 5: That's right, to move up and yeah, to get Bryce Young.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Chicago's gonna have probably two top five picks
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 4: They might have the two, one and two if things
Speaker 4: work out.
Speaker 6: You imagine Raiders over the Patriots twenty one seventeen. Rams
Speaker 6: beat the Cardinals twenty six. Hey, can we go back Raiders?
Speaker 2: Patriots?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 2: Pete Is Bell checked the head coach at the end
Speaker 2: of the after this year in New England, Well, he.
Speaker 4: Might not be the general manager because that team's bad.
Speaker 4: They have no talent on the team.
Speaker 2: They're not talented. And I just think about it more
Speaker 2: from a standpoint, is he's like seventeen games, fifteen games
Speaker 2: something like that behind breaking the all time win record
Speaker 2: that Don Jula has.
Speaker 4: I don't. He's one went away from three hundred. Every
Speaker 4: week we go in there, somebody says, hey, he's one
Speaker 4: went away from getting the three hundred. He can't get it.
Speaker 6: Rams over the Cardinals twenty six to nine. Jets beat
Speaker 6: the Eagles their first loss of the season.
Speaker 2: Twenty good football game, at least the end of it. It
Speaker 2: was fun to watch.
Speaker 4: Lions don't play very well.
Speaker 6: No Lions beat the Bucks twenty to six. They've got
Speaker 6: five wins now and the Bills and the Giants, well,
Speaker 6: the Giants at the goal line twice, once before halftime
Speaker 6: and once at the end.
Speaker 5: Couldn't score.
Speaker 2: Well if they just kicked the field goal at the
Speaker 2: end of the half and run the or you know,
Speaker 2: if Tyrod Taylor doesn't check to a run and just
Speaker 2: either get a touchdown or throwing complete and kick the
Speaker 2: field goal. All they need at the end of the
Speaker 2: game is the field goal.
Speaker 4: They played good on defense last night.
Speaker 2: We sure did very well. And the in the Bills offense.
Speaker 2: Pete not humming right.
Speaker 4: Now, No it's not.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's the jet lag Mabe.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: They blamed everything. They have seriously blamed everything they possibly can.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're not playing well and off at two
Speaker 4: gets two straight games. They still had three hundred something
Speaker 4: yards against Jacksonville, but a lot of it came late.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was all late Monday night football.
Speaker 6: It's a road home game for the three and two
Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys, who will try to get off the deck
Speaker 6: after a blowout loss last week. They visited so Far
Speaker 6: Stadium when the two and two LA Chargers, who won
Speaker 6: back to back games before their Week five by who
Speaker 6: you got tonight in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I'm going Chargers. I think they're gonna to go. They're
Speaker 2: gonna to go silent count because it'd be more Cowboy
Speaker 2: fans than Charger fans. But I think I'm not buying
Speaker 2: what the Cowboys are selling.
Speaker 4: I'm going with the Cowboys. I think they write things
Speaker 4: here here's my belief. When you play the Chargers, if
Speaker 4: you've blocked them, you eat them. They're last in the
Speaker 4: league in past defense. They give up ten point four
Speaker 4: yards per completion. They're terrible against the pass, and I
Speaker 4: think the Cowboys are good enough up front Tony to
Speaker 4: block them.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I've seen very little both of them, so
Speaker 2: mine was a complete stab in the dark.
Speaker 6: I'd go with Pete on this one. Wow, you agree. Finally,
Speaker 6: it took the last two minutes of the show for
Speaker 6: you guys to I'm gonna go. I mean I would
Speaker 6: lock this week.
Speaker 4: By the way, do lock until we under see what's up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be irresponsible to use the lock right now.
Speaker 5: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 6: That's a Pete Prisco, Tony Biselli, Joe Fortunato, Brent Reaver,
Speaker 6: Andrea Curry, Eric Guaringa, Kelli Jones, William P's, Katewaki, the
Speaker 6: whole crew.
Speaker 5: They're all eating mister Chubby's wings tonight.
Speaker 2: Save some for us.
Speaker 5: I'm JP Shaddwick. Thanks for listening. As Jaguars Happy Hour