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Speaker 1: QB two, RB two and the Pass Rush Came Alive.

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Speaker 1: We look back at pre season week two. Welcome Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. She's back from

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Speaker 1: a week long stay in Indianapolis called the Joint Practices

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Speaker 1: Players who impressed. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven eighty

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Speaker 1: five and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: POA Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 2: This guy's unbelievable. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 2: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 1: So more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigdrieler.

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Speaker 1: So first things first, welcome back, Thank you, and thank

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Speaker 1: you you brought some of that Indianapolis weather back with

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Speaker 1: I mean there was just rain, thunder lightning. It was

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you're happy you got rain though.

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Speaker 4: Not me, not as much, Darren, not as much as

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Speaker 1: Crew, Darren, who cares about that. It just let's talk

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Speaker 1: up Danny Sirek here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 1: discuss the game on Setaturday twenty one to thirteen. The

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Speaker 1: Cardinals lose to the Colts. But one more thing about

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Speaker 1: your work, not only on Saturday, but these first two

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Speaker 1: Now we get Danny back on the NFL Kickoff show,

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Speaker 1: which was a definite miss over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: It's Clayton Tune that has been seen through practices, through

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Speaker 1: This is where we need a camera in that discussion room.

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Speaker 1: Being active on game day because he can play multiple

436
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Speaker 1: positions on the interior and in case of emergency be

437
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Speaker 1: kicked out to the tackle position. Because he did do

438
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Speaker 1: that a little bit at UCLA. Not a ton, but

439
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Speaker 1: he did do it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hope that's not.

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Speaker 4: The case, just because you have Calvin Beachum. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if he'd be active at this point, but you

443
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Speaker 4: have the rookie Christian Jones. But it is You're right,

444
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: it is important to have versatilitia on an offensive line,

445
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Speaker 4: arguably more than any other spot on a roster.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the line of scrimmage, let's turn it over

447
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Speaker 1: to the defense and the twenty one to thirteen loss

448
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Speaker 1: on Saturday to the Indianapolis Colts. As far as defensive

449
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Speaker 1: players who stood out or flashed, I think the big takeaway,

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Speaker 1: well literally where the takeaways the two that the Cardinals

451
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Speaker 1: defense had, and then good to see Clayton Tune take

452
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Speaker 1: advantage of short fields to get scoring field goal and

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Speaker 1: a touchdown off those two takeaways. But Keith Trell Clark

454
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Speaker 1: had a huge hit forcing a fumble, and then Rabbit

455
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Speaker 1: once again always around the football for the second week

456
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Speaker 1: in a row, and just the ability to come in

457
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Speaker 1: front of the wide receiver, catch the ball and then

458
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Speaker 1: make sure you get two feet inbounds. In college, it's

459
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Speaker 1: just one. In the NFL, you better make sure that

460
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Speaker 1: second foot stays in bounds. It did, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, we're talking about Rabbit for a second straight week.

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Speaker 1: Last week it was just he was just all over

463
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Speaker 1: the field, and this past week it was because he had.

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Speaker 4: A takeaway second straight week where his closing speed was

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Speaker 4: put on display.

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Speaker 3: The fact that on that.

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Speaker 4: Play he was able to read it perfectly, have that

468
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Speaker 4: speed to get in front of the receiver, be able

469
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Speaker 4: to catch the ball. You know you can do all

470
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Speaker 4: the right things. Then you get in the moment as

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Speaker 4: a dB and you still got to catch the ball.

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Speaker 4: You gotta have the hands and then do you right

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Speaker 4: to finish it out, keep both feet in protect the ball.

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Speaker 4: And that turnover was huge. I loved seeing the big

475
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Speaker 4: hit from Keetrell Clark, somebody who you still want to

476
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Speaker 4: see that jump in year or two who's kind of

477
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Speaker 4: been under the radar just because of a depth, not issue,

478
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Speaker 4: but the depth that corner back there. So it is

479
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Speaker 4: nice to see splashes those from some of those younger

480
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Speaker 4: players in the secondary. Saw some splashes from the pass

481
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Speaker 4: rush again tempering the excitement, not to take away from

482
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Speaker 4: the plays that were made, just remembering though they're not

483
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Speaker 4: going up against starters. Still great though, to see LJ.

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Speaker 4: Collier get involved and make a difference for the few

485
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Speaker 4: snaps he was out there on the defensive line. Cam

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Speaker 4: Thomas was having his name called the rookie Xavier Thomas

487
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Speaker 4: outside was having his name called a bunch. That is

488
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Speaker 4: what you want to see. You want to see these

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Speaker 4: players still make plays in preseason games because over time,

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Speaker 4: that's what you're going to build upon to do it

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Speaker 4: in a regular season game.

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Speaker 1: And you can't penalize the players who do make plays

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Speaker 1: because of who they're going up against. Absolutely, they're being

494
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Speaker 1: told to enter a game and just perform, do your job.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that Cameron Thomas, a former third round pick,

496
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Speaker 1: had a couple of sacks in addition to a couple

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Speaker 1: of quarterback kids, something that well, we've had to wait

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Speaker 1: until now to kind of see that. Maybe it's too little,

499
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Speaker 1: too late, who knows, But once again Xavier Thomas, second

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Speaker 1: sec in as many weeks, who I think he's going

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Speaker 1: to make this team as a former fifth round draft pick,

502
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Speaker 1: but someone that I think could be that situational pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: If this defense can get into more of third and

504
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Speaker 1: obvious passing situations, then all of a sudden, I could

505
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Speaker 1: see fifty four being thrown out onto the field with

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Speaker 1: one goal in mind, and that is to get into

507
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Speaker 1: the backfield.

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Speaker 4: It's clear this staff likes what they see out of

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Speaker 4: Xavier Thomas, probably just needs a little bit of time

510
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Speaker 4: to really adjust to what they're asking of him. Similar

511
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Speaker 4: in a sense to zab and Collins of liking what

512
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Speaker 4: you see in him and giving him a year to

513
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Speaker 4: grow with this staff and what's being asked of him

514
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Speaker 4: in the role is there is potential there, There's flashes there,

515
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Speaker 4: and you've seen that from Thomas's high school and college

516
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Speaker 4: career to get to where he is now. I really

517
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Speaker 4: do think that this time next year, we can expect

518
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Speaker 4: to see a big jump in the way we were

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Speaker 4: already seeing from bj Ojalari. I think you're seeing enough

520
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: of the good things early on from Xavier Thomas as

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Speaker 4: he continues to get reps, which is going to have

522
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Speaker 4: the opportunity to get a lot more reps than he

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Speaker 4: would have before Ojelari's injury.

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Speaker 3: Just got to take advantage of them.

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Speaker 1: During the broadcast, giam Many Austin Fort was in the

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Speaker 1: booth with Pash and Wolf and I know you've got

527
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Speaker 1: a ton of different voices in your headset on the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you heard all of what

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Speaker 1: Moni had to say, but he was asked about Xavier

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Speaker 1: Thomas and his response was, quote get off explosiveness as

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Speaker 1: far as what he likes about the former Clemson outside linebacker,

532
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Speaker 1: and again, what are you doing with the snaps that

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Speaker 1: you do get in the preseason? Are you flashing? Are

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Speaker 1: you doing something? And to have the general manager, yeah,

535
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Speaker 1: he was asked about it, but to have the general

536
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Speaker 1: manager talk about you with that kind of description, that's

537
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Speaker 1: what you want in your outside linebacker, your edge rushers,

538
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Speaker 1: to have that explosiveness once the ball is snapped because

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Speaker 1: he does. Talking about Thomas look quick coming off the edge,

540
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Speaker 1: and we've seen him line up on both sides. It's

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Speaker 1: not like he's strictly on the left or strictly on

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Speaker 1: the right. There's been a constant movement from all these

543
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Speaker 1: outside linebackers, so you don't get pigeonholed and just well,

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Speaker 1: I can only rush on the left side.

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Speaker 4: It's no secret the Cardinals are missing a star pass rusher.

546
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Speaker 4: You don't even necessarily need it to be a star, right,

547
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Speaker 4: but that's clearly still one of the weaker spots on

548
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Speaker 4: this defense that I do still think will be the

549
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Speaker 4: main priority next offseason, just given how much they prioritize

550
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Speaker 4: the defensive line in the secondary this year. You have

551
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Speaker 4: to have those expectations while still being able to recognize

552
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Speaker 4: the growth in these players and that they are still

553
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Speaker 4: providing what's.

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Speaker 3: Being asked of them.

555
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Speaker 4: Saving Collins is a great example of it's a lot

556
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Speaker 4: more than just the stack numbers what they ask of him.

557
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Speaker 4: Collins was playing at one point five different positions last year,

558
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: he told the media, dropping back into coverage. So having

559
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: high expectations I do think is fair for Xavier Thomas

560
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: from what we've seen and knowing he's gonna get reps.

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Speaker 4: It's just important to remember they can still have a

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Speaker 4: good season, they can still have growth, they can still

563
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Speaker 4: be doing what's asked of them by this staff without

564
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Speaker 4: putting up double digit sack numbers. And to which I

565
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Speaker 4: know when you're watching you think, okay, well they're not,

566
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Speaker 4: you know, taking the quarterback to the ground there, And

567
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Speaker 4: that is fair to a certain extent. It's just something

568
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Speaker 4: to keep in mind.

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Speaker 1: And we know that what is asked the outside linebackers

570
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Speaker 1: within this defense is not just rushing the quarterback but

571
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Speaker 1: setting the edge, dropping into coverage and are you affecting

572
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Speaker 1: the pass or the quarterback? And Victor dy mckagee, although

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Speaker 1: he didn't show up and the statu sheet as far

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Speaker 1: as sacks, he almost had three sacks himself on Saturday,

575
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Speaker 1: so showing the ability to get into the backfield. So

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Speaker 1: now it's just okay, now you need to get home.

577
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Speaker 1: But the big thing is are you winning your one

578
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Speaker 1: on one matchups in front of you? And I thought

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Speaker 1: Dean mcagee was consistently doing that. And if you are,

580
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Speaker 1: then okay, maybe you don't get the sack, but maybe

581
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Speaker 1: someone else does or it forces the quarterback to step

582
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Speaker 1: up in the pocket or to get rid of the

583
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Speaker 1: ball before they want to, and all of a sudden

584
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Speaker 1: it's an incompletion or turnover. So yeah, Victor Whift on

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Speaker 1: a couple of those, but he was at least in

586
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Speaker 1: the area, which right now is what I would take,

587
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Speaker 1: because there were times a year ago, especially late last season,

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Speaker 1: where there was no one in the area as far

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Speaker 1: as getting to that opposing quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Right you're seeing the growth in those players, which is

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Speaker 4: a big part of these preseason games. You're seeing the flashes,

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Speaker 4: you're seeing the technique, you're seeing where they have improved.

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Speaker 1: The last point on Saturday kind of brought it up

594
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but the penalties there were eleven of them,

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Speaker 1: seven at half time. JG's response to you at halftime

596
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: you could see, you could hear the agitation. He used

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Speaker 1: the word self destructed. He said, when you get lazy

598
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: with technique, you foul. And that is something that players

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00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: can control, is your technique. Although JG in the post

600
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: game at least two or three different times mentioned it

601
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Speaker 1: was on the coaches for not having the players mentally ready.

602
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Speaker 1: And I know what JG's trying to do, but some

603
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: of those penalties. That's on the players themselves not having

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Speaker 1: either the proper technique or not knowing what you can

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Speaker 1: or can't do, especially those rookies, i e. Christian Jones.

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Speaker 1: What does the NFL allow you to do versus what

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Speaker 1: you could do in college?

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Speaker 4: Jones had three straight holding calls and that's just unacceptable.

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Speaker 4: There's no other way around it. He finished with four

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Speaker 4: I believe four penalties before even got a chance to

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Speaker 4: ask JG about penalties is my second halftime question. He

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Speaker 4: brought it up in his answer about the first when

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Speaker 4: I'd ask about claytonton the offense, and he brought up

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Speaker 4: penalties on his own, So you know that was on

615
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Speaker 4: his mind and that was going to be part of

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Speaker 4: his message halftime, postgame, and likely this week at practice,

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Speaker 4: which is how it should be. That was a big

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Speaker 4: jump from two years ago to last season, though we

619
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Speaker 4: saw was the decrease in penalties, So I would imagine

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Speaker 4: that they're going to be able the coaching staff to

621
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Speaker 4: get those corrected.

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Speaker 3: It is, to a certain extent, the.

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Speaker 4: Coaches to make sure these younger players are understanding what

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Speaker 4: they can and can't do, being mentally ready. You're right,

625
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Speaker 4: though you can only do so much from the sideline

626
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Speaker 4: with the headset on. It is up to the players,

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Speaker 4: and unfortunately it's a good learning experience, right Christian Jones

628
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: to have three straight holding penalties hopefully learned his lesson

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Speaker 4: from there to not have that happen three times in

630
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Speaker 4: a row, because that just that's killer.

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Speaker 1: To Jones's credit, rewatching that game on Sunday afternoon, it

632
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Speaker 1: didn't appear that he was doing much as far as holding,

633
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Speaker 1: tackling to the ground obvious holding situations, but the officials

634
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Speaker 1: from the advantage point through the flag, so all of

635
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Speaker 1: a sudden, now it becomes a teachable moment. There were

636
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Speaker 1: several on special teams, Max Melton going out of bounds

637
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Speaker 1: on his own on a punt. You can't do that

638
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL if you get forced out, okay, but

639
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Speaker 1: you can't do it on your own to avoid the

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Speaker 1: blockers in front of you holding call. On a return,

641
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: a kickoff landed short of the landing zone. So we

642
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Speaker 1: saw that for the first time.

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Speaker 4: And I was staying there and I'm thinking, what happens now,

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Speaker 4: and then I have day fashion. Ron Wolfy my ear

645
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Speaker 4: explaining on the broadcast of Okay, now it landed short

646
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Speaker 4: of the landing zone, so it goes out to the.

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Speaker 1: Forty and better to have these type of situations where

648
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Speaker 1: you can make mistakes and have them corrected or learn

649
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Speaker 1: from them in a preseason game, as opposed to Danny.

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Speaker 1: If we're sitting here after week one talking about eleven penalties,

651
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Speaker 1: seven of those in the first half, and a win

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Speaker 1: or a loss to the Buffalo Bills, you know that's

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Speaker 1: all JG's going to want to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I might have to call into a postgame radio show

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Speaker 4: to talk to you. If that's the case after week one.

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Speaker 1: You should anyway, Why don't you pick up?

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Speaker 4: I thought about that one time. I just I'm wondering

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Speaker 4: what your reaction would be when you hear my voice.

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Speaker 1: Well, it depends are you Are you Danny on a

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Speaker 1: mobile or are you Christine just throwing out a name?

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Speaker 1: Interesting and or Glendale or Puoi or Tempee Chandler.

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Speaker 4: I mean, mave me some ideas, Craig, because if someone

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Speaker 4: would recognize my voice, I would not get very far.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you say you're Danny on a mobile, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of giving it away. But I would never Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's Danny Surrek my colleague. I'll see her Monday morning

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Speaker 1: when she gets back from Buffalo or wherever your guys

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Speaker 1: are at Green Bay. Now I would never do that, thanks,

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Speaker 1: but you could eat. Hey, Cody, the phone lines are open,

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Speaker 1: are they not? The phone lines are always thee Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's an idea that.

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Speaker 1: Would be fun. I might have to work on that

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Speaker 1: at some point this season.

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Speaker 3: See how strong the WiFi really is?

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Speaker 1: There you go? Yes, Well, the good news is is

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Speaker 1: everything is kind of back to normal. This week the

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Speaker 1: preseason finale and yes, Danny, Sirek, Darren Urban myself on

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals NFL kickoff show. So that will be

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Speaker 1: fun because it's always a fun time when the three

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Speaker 1: of us are together, and we haven't had that the

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Speaker 1: past two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I know, well, you'll still be back here, but it'll

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Speaker 4: be fun. Week two, that'll be the first time together

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Speaker 4: physically in the radio booth.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit more. I think it's a better

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Speaker 1: conversation where we can all see one another, you know,

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Speaker 1: jab one another.

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Speaker 4: That's basically it is one of my favorite things whenever

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Speaker 4: we're on the road.

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Speaker 3: It never fails.

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Speaker 4: Pregame as we get into the show. That's when the

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Speaker 4: stadium wherever we are, it doesn't matter where, loves to

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Speaker 4: test out the national anthem, their intros, everything at the

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Speaker 4: highest volume possible. So it is one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: things when Darren and I just have to look at

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Speaker 4: each other and we throw our hands up like I

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Speaker 4: can't hear what Craig saying is talking to you, is

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Speaker 4: talking to me, and we just kind of go back

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Speaker 4: and forth on when one of us starts talking to you.

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Speaker 1: It never happens at State Farm Stadium. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why it happens every other stadium across the lake.

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Speaker 3: We're the best of the best, Greg jez Well, you.

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Speaker 1: Are the best of the best, and we are happy

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Speaker 1: to have you back here from Indianapolis, all dry as we.

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Speaker 4: Thankfully, yes, thank you, good to be back.

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Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lit on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, pro partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Mamahundra, our associate producer Cody Fincher. For

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Speaker 1: Danny Sirek, I'm Craig rial Lou. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two,