Speaker 1: Every day we click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: You don't finished for y'all done morning.
Speaker 2: Everybody's d J n V Jess hilarious. Charlamagne the guy
Speaker 2: we are the Breakfast Club. He got a special guest.
Speaker 1: In the building. My favorite MC of all time.
Speaker 2: Legend the coming Gentlemen, ghost Face Killer.
Speaker 1: Yah goa yo yo yo yo, what up? What up?
Speaker 2: How you feeling?
Speaker 3: Man? Now? We call him were cooling King? Glad to
Speaker 3: be here right now?
Speaker 4: Man had like three times, right, I think once twice alright,
Speaker 4: but lost friend at the wild you know, so you
Speaker 4: had you had that face on, like yo, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Downstairs, I was like, yeah, everything I
Speaker 4: wanted to have, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: This perfect time. And Supreme Clientele too, is out this Friday.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 5: You said you would never do a sequel to Supreme Clientele,
Speaker 5: So what changed your mind?
Speaker 4: No, it was it was it was the fans. It
Speaker 4: was it was the fans. They kept calling for it.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, yo, for years they was calling for it,
Speaker 4: So you know, gradually I was just I started back then,
Speaker 4: like you know, I saved a couple of joints every
Speaker 4: time I get a joint and I felt like could
Speaker 4: be supreme.
Speaker 3: I just put it in the vote. Stash is stash it.
Speaker 4: So look on this album right here, I got like
Speaker 4: maybe like five songs from like twenty years ago, seventeen
Speaker 4: and better on it.
Speaker 1: You know, how do they know this body of work?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: This body works to be supreme clientele too, because.
Speaker 4: I kind of felt good about it, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. Besides the skits member last summer had like
Speaker 4: a few Iron Man.
Speaker 3: Skits on it and stuff like that, but now they
Speaker 3: really they on you.
Speaker 4: Now you really can't really do it, so you gotta
Speaker 4: you gotta just think of like, Okay, which way I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go. And that was one of the hardest parts
Speaker 4: I had, just trying to find like a theme behind it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So you know, it took me.
Speaker 4: It took a while. It took a while, but I
Speaker 4: got it. I feel like I feel I got it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But and it's a vibe.
Speaker 4: You know, when I create albums, I create vibes. So
Speaker 4: if I could get ahead and hear it like all
Speaker 4: the way through, then I know I'm good. Then I
Speaker 4: got my I got my man's and my player. For
Speaker 4: you know, I don't got no yes brothers around me.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So if they like yo, nah tone like you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, then I weigh and judge it and
Speaker 4: feel like I, you know what, Maybe he's right. I
Speaker 4: tell him, like yo, what I feel about it, you know,
Speaker 4: But I make the end decision at the end of
Speaker 4: the day. So on this project, I just think that
Speaker 4: we got a good vibe.
Speaker 2: Or now, how do you navigate the landscape today? How
Speaker 2: do you like the landscape of music and musicians today?
Speaker 2: Because you're the guy that drops and it gets out
Speaker 2: the way. We don't see you, like literally ghost face,
Speaker 2: like get gone for years but on tour. So how
Speaker 2: do you feel about the landscape today of music, of.
Speaker 3: Music, rap music?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I mean it kind of shifted,
Speaker 4: Its shifted, you know what I mean, to another region
Speaker 4: and I get it, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: nothing stays the same. You just sometimes you just got
Speaker 4: to adapt to it. But I realized that you just
Speaker 4: got to do you You just got to stay in
Speaker 4: your lane, just stay right in your lane or whatever,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Because for the people I
Speaker 4: came up with, you know what I mean, It's like
Speaker 4: they still there. They're still out there, even though they
Speaker 4: probably got grandkids and you know what I mean, whatever
Speaker 4: the case may be, but you know this real music
Speaker 4: still exists out there, you know what I mean. Not
Speaker 4: trying to take away from what else is going on,
Speaker 4: but you just gotta do you man.
Speaker 5: I feel like with this Supreme clientele too, it's not
Speaker 5: even like you channeling your era.
Speaker 1: This just feel like eighty six to eighty eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm I'm from that era, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So I love that era, you know what
Speaker 4: i mean. You know, I'm an R and B dude. First,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like just to
Speaker 4: try to go back and get it. That's what I
Speaker 4: was telling you, like trying to just get a feeling,
Speaker 4: get a feeling. Then I found it. Then I'm like, yo,
Speaker 4: you know what, let me call it tay Bookie, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and get it more, just just
Speaker 4: to more create that feeling, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Because I was thinking, like, damn, what I'm gonna go it?
Speaker 4: Like I said, I was thinking about a lot of rappists.
Speaker 3: Even Laurence Hill.
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, she got miseducation to Lauryn Hill and
Speaker 4: this one got that one. You know, I'm looking at
Speaker 4: three feet high and rising and all the other stuff.
Speaker 4: And you know, twenty five years from the last time
Speaker 4: we disc supreme clientele, it's like, yo, some brothers is dead,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it was a vibe.
Speaker 4: It was like, you know, people don't understand, like if
Speaker 4: you got a baby, you can't create the same baby,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So fans be thinking that Joe,
Speaker 4: you gotta really do it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like this, but it's you know, you first of all
Speaker 4: these producers now they're not making the same beats and
Speaker 4: stuff that they did before they caught up in like
Speaker 4: right now, so's you know, I had to find a way,
Speaker 4: like and you know, like you said, God's time is
Speaker 4: the best time, sol and that's that's why.
Speaker 3: We're hearing now.
Speaker 1: Were you afraid to call the supreme Well, not fear.
Speaker 5: Fear not the right word, but you have any hesitation
Speaker 5: about calling a supreme clientele too, because that gives a
Speaker 5: different expectation to the body of work.
Speaker 4: Not really, you know, with me, it's like if I
Speaker 4: got the beats and I'm focused and I got time.
Speaker 3: I could do those all day.
Speaker 4: It just it's just a matter of the the really
Speaker 4: the beats that could just drag me in it, because
Speaker 4: the beats is everything, every every verse ever, whatever I
Speaker 4: have it set on the beat.
Speaker 3: It's like the beat talk to me, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I don't know if that makes sense, but
Speaker 3: it just music. It's just taught.
Speaker 4: Like like when I did All I Got is You,
Speaker 4: it just dragged me there, like I didn't know what
Speaker 4: I was gonna do when I got it, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. I told Rizzidey, I want that bo
Speaker 4: when I took it home and and just went another
Speaker 4: way with it, just what I felt.
Speaker 3: And that's what a lot of tracks I make.
Speaker 4: So Yeah, but I'm confident in myself that I know
Speaker 4: that I could do those.
Speaker 3: I could do those over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: Just give me some time. And that's it.
Speaker 2: You said you sat on records for nineteen twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't hear that in the album. Though it doesn't
Speaker 2: sound dated. It doesn't sounds.
Speaker 4: Hard right, like metaphysics right, like the other one I
Speaker 4: did that was like twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: It was it was that. It was twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: The whole three verses was twenty years Then I got
Speaker 4: a joint called Candy Land that was the same. I
Speaker 4: just wrote the second verse on that, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, And me and me and Meth got one
Speaker 4: called you my friend. That that's that's that's one of
Speaker 4: them tear jerker joints. So it's like that's from back then.
Speaker 4: It's a few of them. Full disciple, Like you know, yeah.
Speaker 5: When you you said that when you hear a beat,
Speaker 5: it takes you there. So the first time you heard it,
Speaker 5: impossible beat?
Speaker 1: Right, what was your energy?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: What was going on in your your world that you
Speaker 5: just hint that classic verse?
Speaker 4: It was the beat. It was the beat. It sounded
Speaker 4: like it was theatrical. So I'm like, I'm in the studio,
Speaker 4: we're doing We're doing forever. So you know, I get
Speaker 4: up in there and I just hear her that beat.
Speaker 4: And I'm one of them guys that I don't just
Speaker 4: like a regular beat for the most when I'm doing that,
Speaker 4: I like for the beat to get him and just
Speaker 4: take me within the beat, like break down, just break
Speaker 4: down on certain points so I can just get ahead
Speaker 4: and just glide with it and just going that go right
Speaker 4: into that pocket, then slip out and then you know
Speaker 4: we go here, we go ahead, like and that's what
Speaker 4: it just did to me.
Speaker 3: But it felt like it's talked to me like.
Speaker 4: Col ambulance Jamie evens shot Timmy, don't go something you
Speaker 4: my mother fucking heart like like it just it just
Speaker 4: it just it just had me there and I ain't.
Speaker 4: I think I might have came back the next day
Speaker 4: and finished it because I just wrote a chunk and
Speaker 4: then I had to leave it alone, like don't touch
Speaker 4: you no more, like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: you come back and just and get it again. It
Speaker 4: was all like it was all that, but you don't
Speaker 4: want to when you're dealing with something great and you
Speaker 4: could feel it, you don't want to just suck it up,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You just got to like yo,
Speaker 4: hold on, just chill. You ain't got to force it.
Speaker 4: Came back and just and just finished it.
Speaker 1: Off with that. Based on the true story some of it,
Speaker 1: some of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my son's uncle had got shot I think on
Speaker 4: a on around the fourth of July when I was like,
Speaker 4: mother came down holding the rest with a gown on
Speaker 4: and all that.
Speaker 3: It was like it was like I was when I
Speaker 3: was in that pocket.
Speaker 4: It was like that one was was real, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean a lot of other stuff I just
Speaker 4: added behind it, like you know what I mean, but uh,
Speaker 4: the cop was real, officer low and all this shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, I just like the gold places.
Speaker 6: Or what are the artists like you who's so great
Speaker 6: at storytelling on every single song, tell younger artists when
Speaker 6: they come to you about trying to tell stories because
Speaker 6: they're moving so fast. It's a lot different. You take
Speaker 6: your time even in writing your music. How do you
Speaker 6: mentor the younger artists who don't.
Speaker 3: Really get that as far as writing.
Speaker 6: Writing yep and putting it in like composing an actual
Speaker 6: song from start to finish.
Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, take your time and just
Speaker 4: think a lot of rappers nowadays, I don't think they
Speaker 4: think you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You know, knowledge is infinite, So it's like when you could.
Speaker 4: Just sit there and just this is art first, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, So when you could get ahead
Speaker 4: and just use your mind and just just go, man,
Speaker 4: I don't care like when.
Speaker 3: We did when I round, when me and slick. We
Speaker 3: did the Sun, but.
Speaker 4: Didn't make it on Bulletproof Wilence. It's nothing like that
Speaker 4: because you risually couldn't find a sample. But it's like, Yo,
Speaker 4: it's just yo, that's the Sun, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You just got to like, if you got an imagination, you.
Speaker 3: Could just go there, just go.
Speaker 4: And I don't know how it is for other rappers,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because a lot of rappers
Speaker 4: is the one dimensional you know what I mean. I'd
Speaker 4: be like, Yo, give me country, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Let me, let me, let me dive in there. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I don't care it's opera whatever.
Speaker 4: Yo, let me just let me just go in and
Speaker 4: and and I tried a way to finesse that.
Speaker 3: I'm just one of those kind of guys.
Speaker 4: So when I get the R and B tracks, which
Speaker 4: is my best tracks, I get here, I demo that
Speaker 4: I need a story here, you need an abstract track,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's it's whatever because I
Speaker 4: enjoy the music of it, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: just the art form just period.
Speaker 2: But I think what you said, I think the trend
Speaker 2: of I don't have to write. I think that kills
Speaker 2: it right, but you know.
Speaker 3: What it is not to cut you off.
Speaker 4: It'd be like now I'm hearing just like jury women
Speaker 4: cause bottles, you know what I mean. It's it's it's limited,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, Like I'll not be
Speaker 4: thinking to myself where the cream would have work today
Speaker 4: if we would have dropped that, like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: The reason I think so is because I think about
Speaker 5: the artists who are really having real success.
Speaker 1: They are detailed in a way. Whether it's the Kendrick Lamar,
Speaker 1: the j Drake.
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking about the guys from the last you know,
Speaker 5: fifteen years. They are very detailed in a way, right.
Speaker 5: I love them like they they music, they lyrics do
Speaker 5: have a have layers to oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they could all tell a story like Kendrick.
Speaker 2: He tells a story some of this rap. But that's
Speaker 2: what I miss sometimes I miss driving and putting myself
Speaker 2: into that story.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean? Right right?
Speaker 5: And I say it, Yeah, you said something man, you
Speaker 5: said when you and slick Rick wrote the Sun like
Speaker 5: yore the son, everybody can feel the sun to go
Speaker 5: back to there impossible verse. I always felt like that's
Speaker 5: that feels like a breeze. I don't know any other
Speaker 5: way to describe it. Did you feel something like that
Speaker 5: like a wind? Almost?
Speaker 1: Still? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just knew that it was something I can't even
Speaker 4: I just knew it was something like and and like
Speaker 4: the way the beat was, it was just like okay,
Speaker 4: just got more and then more and more and more
Speaker 4: like like like it was like a movie, you know,
Speaker 4: And and that was it when I had to break
Speaker 4: it down and get ready to stop and just ended it.
Speaker 3: And that's just how And I.
Speaker 4: Got a lot of verses like that, like they just
Speaker 4: be like movies, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: don't know if something did I was when I was
Speaker 4: into it, something was it was God blessed me with something,
Speaker 4: and it was just on my back like like when
Speaker 4: I just I just had to knock it out.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 5: You know, when people talk about hip hop storytellers, right like,
Speaker 5: your name is up there with the Greats, the Slick Ricks,
Speaker 5: the nas Is, the Biggies, all of those individuals. What
Speaker 5: do you think separates your style of storytelling from them?
Speaker 4: Probably because my emotions. I could spell that soul on it,
Speaker 4: like when I did holler, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like like like old Dirty was like, yo, he's one
Speaker 4: of them that gave me like a lot of my
Speaker 4: soul too, besides me being in the living room getting
Speaker 4: kicked out the liver room, you know what I mean
Speaker 4: when he was young.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was. I think it's a soul.
Speaker 4: I think I know how to like to lean on
Speaker 4: on certain tracks and cry on them and just like
Speaker 4: you know, like just do that, like just dig in.
Speaker 5: Like did you did you always feel like being emotional
Speaker 5: was like your superpower? Because especially in hip hop, you know,
Speaker 5: people often glorified being like cold and detached and emotionless.
Speaker 5: Did you feel like that was a super.
Speaker 1: Power for you later on?
Speaker 3: Later on?
Speaker 4: Like even when I hear all I got is you
Speaker 4: and I spilled that into that like that a lot
Speaker 4: of times it just I don't even like to I
Speaker 4: never really performed that. Like I did it for John
Speaker 4: Rule one time, and it was like I had to,
Speaker 4: like I told him no, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: But he was like, y'all, come on, y'o, yo, yo,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I did it though,
Speaker 4: like but because it's just brings back too much emotion. Yeah,
Speaker 4: of that, but I think but later on because even
Speaker 4: God Bless the death Fat Man School, he was like, yo, man,
Speaker 4: he said yo, when you did that, he said, yo,
Speaker 4: go show or my I cried.
Speaker 3: I cried because that's me cry and and I'm like mad.
Speaker 3: People told me that they cried when they heard that record.
Speaker 4: So I'm like it freaked not freaked me out, but
Speaker 4: it was like I had to look and be like, yo,
Speaker 4: you're making these people out here like a tears has
Speaker 4: literally falling out your face over something that I went
Speaker 4: like this. Then I start recognizing, like like what it
Speaker 4: was like the gift or what you know?
Speaker 3: Like I don't, I don't. I don't know, like you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And.
Speaker 4: You know it just gets deep at the while, like
Speaker 4: when you think about it, like you.
Speaker 5: Always thought about wanted. How did your family feel about
Speaker 5: all that I got?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, asked them, you know what I mean? Ask
Speaker 3: and never asked them.
Speaker 4: I just did it because some the type that just
Speaker 4: do music and like this album, I might even listen
Speaker 4: to it. No more like I don't listen to them.
Speaker 4: I just do it and get it out the way
Speaker 4: I feel.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like sometimes you get there,
Speaker 2: you you mad, you emotional, the angry, do it and
Speaker 2: be like I'm done with this. That's how I feel
Speaker 2: with your music.
Speaker 4: I'm done with it. Yeah, I'm done with it. I'm
Speaker 4: done with it, like like you've gotta I gotta hear
Speaker 4: it over and over and over anyway. But yeah, man,
Speaker 4: it was it just it just it just be that
Speaker 4: that emotion. Man, like I don't know, like you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, the things I said, especially on that record,
Speaker 4: it felt like I gave people too much, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like too much, But it just came
Speaker 4: like that, you know what I mean. So it's there,
Speaker 4: it's out in the world. You can't do nothing about it,
Speaker 4: like yo, but but you know, people take it.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 2: Do you miss the competitive nature of the group? Right
Speaker 2: the Wu Tang was was rocking and tight, right you know,
Speaker 2: if ODB comes with a verse like I gotta eat
Speaker 2: his verse, or mess come with a verse, you gotta
Speaker 2: eat that verse? Do you miss that element of it?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 4: Because even to right now, it's like if we all
Speaker 4: getting there, Oh, it's it's a challenge, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. It's competitive. We're all trying to be better.
Speaker 4: Than what we want the best verse want it. He
Speaker 4: wants it, he wants it. So you're around a bunch
Speaker 4: of dogs in there that just want the same thing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And and I remember back
Speaker 4: in those days, like yo, if you couldn't make it,
Speaker 4: Oh yo, you wasn't getting on you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Brothers tall you like, Nah, that that's that's not it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So we haven't did that
Speaker 4: in a minute, you know what I mean. Even if
Speaker 4: it was right now, I know a few brothers will
Speaker 4: get emotional or something like dude, you mean you telling
Speaker 4: me I can't get on that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But that's just what it was like back then, Like yo,
Speaker 4: Like even myself, if Genius was on there like that
Speaker 4: and he and him and deck in him and it
Speaker 4: was crazy.
Speaker 3: I can't touch it. I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: Who is the one that you was like, I gotta eat?
Speaker 2: That was always just coming to a ball madly.
Speaker 3: No, Nah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 4: I mean it was it was if I could do it,
Speaker 4: it was everybody. It was everybody like because you want
Speaker 4: that number one spot, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: But I knew we're not to touch too, like, no, Tom,
Speaker 4: you ain't got it right now, let that go?
Speaker 3: And that was it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What record did you hear that on?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What's the one you missed?
Speaker 1: I felt like Krirean. I always felt like been on cream.
Speaker 3: Not at that time, not at that time. No, they
Speaker 3: was just him and Deck.
Speaker 4: That Deck had two verses, mighty ones, and you know
Speaker 4: the other one to me was even better than that one.
Speaker 3: But really yeah, yeah he was saying something. He was
Speaker 3: he was really inspected for real real.
Speaker 1: So what happened with that other bird?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think he put it out yet.
Speaker 4: Wow, I mean no, I mean yet, but I don't
Speaker 4: even he's gonna do it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Something with some rubber bands, like wrapped in rubber bands.
Speaker 4: I gotta ask him about that again, like you know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 3: But yeah, what was it again?
Speaker 1: With what record? Did you missed that? You felt like?
Speaker 2: Damn, I missed that one.
Speaker 4: I mean even when I did Cuban, you know, but
Speaker 4: I was on too much. So when Ray did ah Scarface,
Speaker 4: because I heard Scarface, it was like chumps, like because
Speaker 4: yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was like because I wasn't there, so I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: when did he do that one? Like yeah? But then
Speaker 3: Rizz was like, yo, nah, you're just too much. You're
Speaker 3: doing too much stuff like that.
Speaker 4: He needs some solo ones, so that one, and you know,
Speaker 4: I was there, we need.
Speaker 3: The spot Russians whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, like like that, but I know it
Speaker 4: was mega more tracks though, Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: What made y'all want to remix? Can it be also simple?
Speaker 5: I always think about it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the if it was
Speaker 4: a label or whatever they called for the remix or
Speaker 4: maybe Rizz I'm not too sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I like I liked that track right
Speaker 3: there too.
Speaker 5: I used to run around just screaming, Baggy Jean's wiould
Speaker 5: be closed, pretty women. I put it in him, shout
Speaker 5: up in him.
Speaker 3: Heard yeah, I'm telling you that.
Speaker 4: And those were the days though, those were the s
Speaker 4: I missed those days because when I used to hear
Speaker 4: like Biggie nas and like, it made me want to
Speaker 4: go right, And I can't even run home to go
Speaker 4: right no more, you know what I mean? Unless I'm
Speaker 4: hearing the locks. Is somebody that that I really like?
Speaker 4: That of my Piers that I could. You know, that's
Speaker 4: getting busy, you know what I mean. But nowadays it's
Speaker 4: really not like that. So a lot of times I
Speaker 4: don't even listen. I listen to more R and B
Speaker 4: than I do RAT you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: it's really not there for me, Like like, yo, you
Speaker 4: just do it because you want to do it.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But I used to hear huh no, go ahead, Oh
Speaker 3: not now.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying though, like Brother's back, like the Mob
Speaker 4: albums or Noa's album drop. It was like, yo, I
Speaker 4: gotta go right, gotta go right. I miss those days.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna ask, even when we were talking
Speaker 6: about the song from twenty years ago, like what does
Speaker 6: inspire you now? Because you don't really get with a
Speaker 6: lot of the music now rat wise and R and
Speaker 6: B wise, though, what do you listen to where you're like,
Speaker 6: I want to go now that you want to go
Speaker 6: right after R and B?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what R and B songs? I mean?
Speaker 4: You know you got I love Stevie, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 6: So it's still the older R and B. It's nothing
Speaker 6: old R.
Speaker 4: And B and No and the Donelle Jones and all that,
Speaker 4: the jahiemes and all that, like I'll catch a few bars,
Speaker 4: but I'm hearing that I'll just catch bars like like
Speaker 4: like yo and be like yo, you know what I'm
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do one of these kind of tapes or
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be and just get it like
Speaker 4: like you know, but that's that's I love that, especially nineties.
Speaker 5: What's your favorite feature on the R and B record?
Speaker 5: Your your your personal favorite verse you spit on an
Speaker 5: R and B.
Speaker 3: Record, favorite verse or favorite record?
Speaker 1: Give me both? Then give me both.
Speaker 3: I never even looked at it like that before.
Speaker 1: You never thought about what your favorite.
Speaker 3: Don't don't be doing next? People ask me all the time, like, yo,
Speaker 3: what's your favorite? I got mad records?
Speaker 1: Mine is freaking you remixed with jobs?
Speaker 3: All right? That was?
Speaker 1: That was many ridiculous, man, You know what.
Speaker 3: You might be right now that you said it. That
Speaker 3: was I picked that one.
Speaker 2: That was a hard record.
Speaker 3: I picked that one.
Speaker 4: But the best one out that I that that that
Speaker 4: that I had like was the one I do with Beyonce.
Speaker 1: He made Summertime sound grimy summertime. But that freaking know that.
Speaker 4: One, My that's number one, didn't That's number one that's
Speaker 4: more than shade of me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, no, we was in pocket with that.
Speaker 1: Where was you? What was the Tell me how that
Speaker 1: record happened?
Speaker 2: He was in the studio with those guys.
Speaker 1: We was in there, but y'all knew y'all was gonna
Speaker 1: do a record up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we was.
Speaker 4: Coming in there to do the remix whatever, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. But I know that beat was that
Speaker 4: chunky though, you know what I mean. When we got
Speaker 4: in there and then he just put it on and
Speaker 4: it was just crazy in there. They was in here
Speaker 4: drinking that some red ship, some after shot ship, this
Speaker 4: ship after shot after Yeah, that's what I tell.
Speaker 3: You about some ship.
Speaker 4: So so I'm like, but there was Ben, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, and he was just it was just
Speaker 4: on there.
Speaker 3: So just me and Ray. Ray caught his.
Speaker 4: Lines while he's catching his lines and catching my lines
Speaker 4: and showy show.
Speaker 3: We just went and did it like he did he laders.
Speaker 3: I laid minds and it just came out the way
Speaker 3: it just came out.
Speaker 5: And Yo, sit back, kick your feet up on the
Speaker 5: glass table, grab the remote, baby, check my niggas on cable.
Speaker 5: I got the hay Love Album plus Jodah said, roll
Speaker 5: it up, the Easy Riders and the Full Moons, conk
Speaker 5: weed up, all up in the room, you got the munchies,
Speaker 5: ice cold milk.
Speaker 3: And long the dunes.
Speaker 1: How you like it, baby?
Speaker 5: I like it on the sink you freak me but
Speaker 5: a long ma Oh my god, you study Islam, play
Speaker 5: it off.
Speaker 1: If my wife calls you and my cousin don. That
Speaker 1: was crazy, man.
Speaker 3: Yo, there's a dose with those days.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's something in the air at that time. Man, it
Speaker 4: was just it was just something. And then we was young,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So your mind is like
Speaker 4: it's open, it's like to whatever. It's just adapting to what.
Speaker 1: How did it feel performing it on Apollo?
Speaker 4: It's crazy, It's crazy. Yeah, we just it was a moment.
Speaker 4: See those as moments. Like the same thing when I
Speaker 4: did with Beyonce at the Witch you mulda call it
Speaker 4: at the Garden, I forgot my verse right before I
Speaker 4: went on, like I'm scared to death.
Speaker 1: Fuck, the building was shaken. I remember you say that
Speaker 1: on the dot yo.
Speaker 3: Nah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like that, but I just forgot the verse,
Speaker 4: like like I knew it prior, but I just forgot it,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, slick rick over there
Speaker 4: throwing changed on and this and that and the third
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But then I'm like, she's
Speaker 4: singing it already. It's like, Yo, I asked my manager, Yo,
Speaker 4: what's my verse? You know what I'm saying, Like you, Mike,
Speaker 4: he don't know, He's just a manager. I'm like, oh, snap,
Speaker 4: Like yo, I'm scared to death, like I don't want
Speaker 4: to do this in front of twenty thousand whatever it is.
Speaker 4: I start walking up those steps. I saw a dame
Speaker 4: dash like right there from this like looking down. He
Speaker 4: must have seen all the truck shuit, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. He like, oh, I just seen his mouth say,
Speaker 4: oh shit, bone Bom is coming closer. But I'm scared,
Speaker 4: like what the but I gotta go out there. I
Speaker 4: don't you know what I mean. God just smacked me bow, yo,
Speaker 4: just like it just I just spit it up up
Speaker 4: just as soon as it was my turn for the verse.
Speaker 3: It's just like bow and that's and it was over.
Speaker 1: That was it, And that was that was at an
Speaker 1: official remix.
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: You did that on your own, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Because my man charm La rock when I was doing
Speaker 4: pretty Chony album. He was out there was he was
Speaker 4: out he live out there, so he's like, yo, tone,
Speaker 4: like you know, Djack whatever, You're like, yo, Yo, I
Speaker 4: got this joint yours Beyonce joint like YO, played it
Speaker 4: for me fire, you know. I just went and later
Speaker 4: it immediately, and I gave it to God bless the Dad.
Speaker 4: Kate Slay gave it to him bawl and it was
Speaker 4: on from there. And I was still out there while
Speaker 4: I was getting played out here. So I came back
Speaker 4: from there at the like doing my thing, and it
Speaker 4: was was popping.
Speaker 2: Do you ever look back and really think about and
Speaker 2: take it all in the success of Wu Tang the
Speaker 2: biggest group that logo. I mean, we had Pete Davison here,
Speaker 2: he has he has a tattooed on them Superhero. But
Speaker 2: it's not only that it transcends through generations, Like it's
Speaker 2: not just fifty sixty you got thirty twenty year old
Speaker 2: teams that still know that logo and still you know
Speaker 2: y'all Walmart, like y'all, look, you ever look back and
Speaker 2: be like Jesus just yeah, some kids from Staten Island.
Speaker 2: It's just like we're gonna find a way.
Speaker 3: Old they hit you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I started seeing it like that when I when I
Speaker 4: got older, when I was young, you just in the mix.
Speaker 3: But when you look, when you try to put.
Speaker 4: Yourself on the outside looking in, it's like, yo, I
Speaker 4: didn't know it was gonna be like that.
Speaker 3: I just knew that we was coming in to do damage.
Speaker 3: I said, you ain't nobody playing with anybody.
Speaker 4: Anybody. We're just too ill like boom. But then at
Speaker 4: the while it just turned into some cold you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And then you still hear like like I seened a
Speaker 4: lot of my favorite like like not old I like
Speaker 4: saying old school rappers, but you know that you once
Speaker 4: you look up to it's like, yo, we're still selling out,
Speaker 4: like like right now. And then my best year with
Speaker 4: these guys was like the tour that we just did
Speaker 4: like like like yo, like like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: it's Matt thirty some years later. So but yeah, nah,
Speaker 4: it's a it's an amazing yo, man. And I say
Speaker 4: to myself, I'm like, yo, like I know there's people
Speaker 4: that went to the grave with that w you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I be in Australia. One kid
Speaker 4: pulled down his pants. It was like yo, so whole
Speaker 4: thigh was on dirty fast his face like yo, nigga,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like yo, and I'm like yo, wow,
Speaker 4: like like I'm just grateful. I'm just I'm just humbled
Speaker 4: to be a part of something that that's living when
Speaker 4: they said it was forever and you know, I guess
Speaker 4: the universe took it like that because I'm seeing.
Speaker 3: Like seven year old kids.
Speaker 4: It stands, you know what I mean, little ones even
Speaker 4: little more than that with shirts on.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, like it's still going, like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm just here to keep that flag, to raise the
Speaker 4: whatever flag I could raise, and just keep it the
Speaker 4: movement going.
Speaker 5: Like That's why it's so interesting that you drop a
Speaker 5: Supreme clientele two at a time like this, because back
Speaker 5: in two thousand, when you drop Supreme Clientele, there was
Speaker 5: a lot of people that was like yo, that saved
Speaker 5: the Wu Tang brand in a lot of ways, like
Speaker 5: really kept that flag held high. Did you feel that
Speaker 5: pressure when you were making it back then or you
Speaker 5: just were in a.
Speaker 3: It was just zoning out because you know, what happened.
Speaker 4: Remember how I be saying like yo, iron Man, was
Speaker 4: like they only gave me like a few months to
Speaker 4: get ahead and to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you bug it. Every time I say that, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: bugging you.
Speaker 3: No why I just rolled all over Cuba Lynx. I
Speaker 3: just rode.
Speaker 4: I just skated on it and to get ahead. And
Speaker 4: you know, I got rushed with a contract. I'm young,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean. So it's like when
Speaker 4: you're gonna hit me with like four or five hundred
Speaker 4: thousand dollars, but I got to hurry up and do
Speaker 4: it in like like two months, like sixty they is
Speaker 4: something like that. It's like I had to make a decision,
Speaker 4: you know right then you know when you be like
Speaker 4: hold on gee, But that's that is that I took that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I was undepressed under
Speaker 4: the gun. And my best friend just he done got
Speaker 4: caught for something that a body that he even commit.
Speaker 4: It was dog diabetes is on you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it was just it wasn't you know, it was
Speaker 4: just it was gloomy for me. Then I'm shooting it
Speaker 4: out with the del phonics.
Speaker 1: It's just bad.
Speaker 2: This just going on.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was just mad. It
Speaker 3: was just crazy. But I got to.
Speaker 4: Sit there and and and and try to try to
Speaker 4: get this thing done. So it was like only thing
Speaker 4: I really liked about it. It was a couple of
Speaker 4: songs put all I got is you you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. But the album cover was the private Fly
Speaker 4: seven album cover I ever did. But and that's that's it.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying I stated on links right, But
Speaker 4: then it was like, Okay, I didn't you know, I
Speaker 4: wasn't satisfied. So when we got the Supreme Clientele, it
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I had more, more time, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 3: More.
Speaker 4: I think I might have did like quick six months,
Speaker 4: real quick, if I'm not mistaken, then came back and
Speaker 4: finished it off rkers, But yeah, it was it was
Speaker 4: just it was just something that I knew that I
Speaker 4: always could do. Because at first I was going to
Speaker 4: name my first album, was gonna name that Supreme Clientele,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But they was like on
Speaker 4: iron Man which one? So I had to I asked
Speaker 4: Rizid Raiding. They just went with iron Man first Classic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care what you say. I've heard you
Speaker 1: say that, I heard I drink Champs. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: classic record Wildflower cam made?
Speaker 5: Daytona five hundred nut Meg was on spreakline that's preme.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I get it. But it was just
Speaker 4: it was just me because it was just a spirit
Speaker 4: it was. It was kind of like dark and cloudy
Speaker 4: to me, like like even rap wise, I wasn't really
Speaker 4: like like like dead with it. I had to hurry up,
Speaker 4: and I don't like being rushed. So that's why I
Speaker 4: don't get deadlines no more. If I'm doing music, I
Speaker 4: don't want no deadline, like let me go.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: The first time I met Ghost, I was drunk as
Speaker 5: hell at a party. Some party went throwing. I ran
Speaker 5: upon him outside and started rapping wildflowers.
Speaker 3: I remember that. I remember that somewhere.
Speaker 5: Your bit your friend, stay hold, I see you on
Speaker 5: the helipade, honey grab I.
Speaker 4: Can't go, And you did tell me back then, yo yo,
Speaker 4: my favorite rap whatever man exactly. Now, I respect that respect.
Speaker 4: Sometime I write a couple of bars, a couple of songs,
Speaker 4: and I might think, like I might think of you,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, Like I wonder what
Speaker 4: he gonna think about this, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, yo, like you know what I'm saying. So nah,
Speaker 3: that's love right there. Though.
Speaker 5: You know in the in the press release for the
Speaker 5: Supreme clientele Too, it says a real rap, no gimmicks. Right,
Speaker 5: It's like you don't like you don't like gimmicks and rap?
Speaker 3: What do you say?
Speaker 5: I saw a press release it was like this Supreme
Speaker 5: Client Teller is about real Supreme Clint tell twos about
Speaker 5: real rap, no gimmicks.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, but when you will walk when you had the.
Speaker 5: Stocking mask on back in the right right and you
Speaker 5: were a ghost Face killer, did you consider that a gimmick?
Speaker 3: No? I ain't, No, I wasn't even thinking like that.
Speaker 3: It well, just like yo, it was his ghost face.
Speaker 4: It was like you know where I got the name
Speaker 4: from mystery a chest boxing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: the god It was ghost Face, the ghost Face Killer.
Speaker 4: You know, he came back after twenty years and just
Speaker 4: started like doing what he do. But I just felt,
Speaker 4: for some reason at that time, I thought that name
Speaker 4: applied to me, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 4: know I threw the mask on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But I took the masks off. I took the mask
Speaker 4: off because I didn't really have no other masses like
Speaker 4: I had stocking.
Speaker 3: Cap on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, you can't really wrap all
Speaker 4: day with a cat on like that, so you couldn't
Speaker 4: breathe you heard. So I'm like, yo, now this got
Speaker 4: to go, man, you know what I mean. But you know,
Speaker 4: as time went on, like now, you know they got
Speaker 4: things like that where you can throw a mask on it,
Speaker 4: you know, do what you want to. If I would
Speaker 4: have kept that mask on.
Speaker 5: It, that made your mythical figures even back then, because
Speaker 5: you know, you be talking like, yo, it was wrong
Speaker 5: with ghost face.
Speaker 1: People like y'all think his face is just figured.
Speaker 3: Run yeah, run and all that. I heard all that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It was just it was
Speaker 3: just ghost face.
Speaker 1: That's what you wanted to do.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: During the recent interview, there was always a room in
Speaker 2: New York that that puff Banjohn from radio. That was
Speaker 2: a big rumor for years and years and years, right,
Speaker 2: and you kind of confirmed that.
Speaker 3: So that was true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like you don't know you was a DJ.
Speaker 2: I didn't work I was I didn't work that during
Speaker 2: that time I was.
Speaker 4: Yo now because yeah, Rizzie was telling us. He was like, yo,
Speaker 4: he said, yeah, Puff admitted to it, like it was talking,
Speaker 4: and I think rizz asked him the question and Puff
Speaker 4: agreed to.
Speaker 3: It, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, because it was just like after that
Speaker 4: hot ninety seventh thing, it just went, haywhy it just
Speaker 4: went Things just went down like it was.
Speaker 3: It ain't even fail right, no more and and and.
Speaker 4: If Puff did that, that was a nice chance move,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because he told Rizzy he said, yo.
Speaker 4: But y'all was just too like coming up. You know,
Speaker 4: hold on, did Dirty did that? Did Dirty do that?
Speaker 3: Before that? Or that was after Dirty? They had the
Speaker 3: Grammys he did it? That was after after after.
Speaker 1: He did that? Had to be like ninety eight after
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 3: Was all right?
Speaker 4: So we did Forever in ninety seven, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Yo nominated for Album of the Year.
Speaker 5: It was no way out Life after Death? Who tang Forever?
Speaker 5: I forgot what else was in that category?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: So yeah, so he was like yo, he said something
Speaker 4: like yo. Puffer is like saying that, yo, y'all was I.
Speaker 3: Guess we was this competition, you know, what I mean.
Speaker 4: And yeah, and it just was on that that time
Speaker 4: right there, so we they banned us. I guess we
Speaker 4: should have just stayed on and raised against the machines.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Well, how did that make
Speaker 5: y'all feel back then when you saw, like even now,
Speaker 5: but when you saw all of those white.
Speaker 1: People embraced war tank, y'all was so pro black still
Speaker 1: now though.
Speaker 3: White people started coming, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I always think I think about that, and I just
Speaker 4: think that might have been the knowledge we I mean,
Speaker 4: first of all, you got non members we up there,
Speaker 4: like earth Wind and fire Man. Everybody is just different,
Speaker 4: unique in their own way, and I don't think I
Speaker 4: don't think they probably ever seen nothing like that. It
Speaker 4: didn't especially when you got brothers speaking the truth, and you.
Speaker 3: Know, like like like like like.
Speaker 4: The people, when you hear the truth, you become attracted
Speaker 4: to that, you know what I mean, and everything else.
Speaker 3: So it's I think it's a few things.
Speaker 4: That that, uh, that got the whole world just to
Speaker 4: just to come in, not just blacks, Latinos and stuff
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, it's funny because when we go overseas.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like mania, Oh shit, like inga you
Speaker 4: get more I say, more love, but it's it just
Speaker 4: feels like they just on it.
Speaker 2: You said, you made more money in the last couple
Speaker 2: of years than you made before. Torn right with the
Speaker 2: new group? Well with with this group. I know there's
Speaker 2: always problems with the group. Would y'all consider keep going
Speaker 2: on to it because y'all made more than y'all ever made,
Speaker 2: And I know sometimes the groups is the most difficult thing.
Speaker 3: Everybody got to schedule.
Speaker 2: Everybody got an emotion of feeling right with that continue
Speaker 2: to happen with what's your thoughts on it?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think so you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like when when Rizza said he said he said, he said,
Speaker 4: like a couple of years ago, Yo, we're gonna do
Speaker 4: this Vegas thing and then we're gonna we're gonna just
Speaker 4: uh uh through through a char Then we entered it.
Speaker 3: Off right there. But then it like that's it just
Speaker 3: flew by.
Speaker 4: So when he was up here telling y'all, like, yo,
Speaker 4: that shit was a shocking to me, Like hold on,
Speaker 4: we're talking about bro, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 4: you know, final chapter this and that and the third
Speaker 4: and I'm like I ain't here about that.
Speaker 3: I ain't know that it's right now, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I know it's right now, like like yo, so but
Speaker 4: in my heart, in my heart, I feel like we
Speaker 4: still got more to give.
Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't think it's over over, But.
Speaker 4: I just didn't understand the fact of like yo, like damn,
Speaker 4: the final chapter. It's like nigga, we're still selling out
Speaker 4: right regardless, like like like you didn't have to call
Speaker 4: it that, you know what I'm saying, or that's just
Speaker 4: something else like like you know, and but you know,
Speaker 4: whatever it was, it was beautiful.
Speaker 6: Have y'all talked that all. Have y'all talked that all
Speaker 6: about continuing after this final tour?
Speaker 4: That was because when we left that last to everybody
Speaker 4: was like peal, we mean you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: just everybody just went I think we might got some
Speaker 4: dates coming up in Europe probably that they're trying to
Speaker 4: do it whatever, but not to really be like yo,
Speaker 4: all right, where we're going from where we're.
Speaker 3: Going from here? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But like I said, to my heart, I feel like
Speaker 4: we're gonna I feel it ain't it. I mean when
Speaker 4: you got Bruce Springsteen and these Beatle Cats still going
Speaker 4: and sharing all these.
Speaker 3: It's like, nigga, what money, go get that ship.
Speaker 2: But I got so many records together solo, like y'all
Speaker 2: be on stage for four hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah we do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it'd be hard to pick sometime from the
Speaker 4: records from like that or whatever.
Speaker 3: Then you got some brothers with less records.
Speaker 4: That's like, yo, now you can't do all that because
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, these guys gotta you know,
Speaker 4: whatever whatever, So it always be like that. That's one
Speaker 4: thing about us though, like we can never make a
Speaker 4: straight decision.
Speaker 3: It's too many, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You know mean I want to bring a white ferry couch.
Speaker 4: I don't stead do all this then, yo, come on, No,
Speaker 4: we got a step of wardrobe, but yo, we can't
Speaker 4: be out here looking like we ninety three, like back
Speaker 4: in ninety two, miss and that and the third Yo,
Speaker 4: I seen them. I seen Bell BIV devoing them. Matter
Speaker 4: of fact, the whole new addition at New Orleans that.
Speaker 2: Yo, flies they changed their outfits together.
Speaker 4: Yes, like yo, that's supposed to be us and telling
Speaker 4: Ray like yo, look look look boom, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean but then when you bring it back to
Speaker 4: the guys, they'd be excited, but then it's like, nine, nigga,
Speaker 4: I'm not throwing that on this SNA and the thirst.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, once you get three and four saying
Speaker 4: they're not doing it, the whole idea is.
Speaker 3: A rat oh.
Speaker 5: I felt like w Tang and New Addition were like
Speaker 5: like cousins because when you look at Wu Tang and
Speaker 5: you look at New Addition, there they both essentially did
Speaker 5: the same thing. You can't name a group where damn
Speaker 5: that every member had individual success like that, Like they
Speaker 5: come together in a group of success, but then they
Speaker 5: break apart and do BBD and.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: They'll had conversations about that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I wanted to go on to roll with them, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like, Yo, let's see how that'll go,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But yeah, we never really
Speaker 4: like I mean, I know, I wasn't in the conversation.
Speaker 5: It was though, you know, you know the onest thing
Speaker 5: about Wu Tang. I read all of y'all books, right,
Speaker 5: I read Ray book, I read your book. You got
Speaker 5: y'all was so deep in the street. But that's not
Speaker 5: what y'all put out there in the music, y'all chose
Speaker 5: to talk about the lessons and you know, talk about
Speaker 5: God and like give people something of substance. Was that
Speaker 5: intentional because y'all could have been the stream superstreet rappers
Speaker 5: if y'all wanted to.
Speaker 4: I think in all reality, I think with us, I
Speaker 4: think we just I mean, I mean, besides the street
Speaker 4: stuff and stuff, I think we just respectful.
Speaker 3: We just good dudes. Man. That that when we were.
Speaker 4: Young, you know, you were surrounded by a bunch of
Speaker 4: not a bunch, but you know certain people that was intelligent,
Speaker 4: that was giving you mathematics and hit trying to gud
Speaker 4: you in the right direction, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And then you know, butang is like like mainly all
Speaker 4: god body, you know what I mean. So when you
Speaker 4: when you want to bus traveling, you know, when the
Speaker 4: lessons start getting pulled out and this and that and
Speaker 4: the third it.
Speaker 3: Just it just shapes you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So a lot of that like my seeds run with
Speaker 4: his seeds, married his money, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: All that is like part of that. It's just it's
Speaker 4: just it just it just when your mom was that
Speaker 4: like and you know, and you know we didn't that
Speaker 4: we mix it up with that, mix it up with that,
Speaker 4: you know, you know, but yeah, for the most part,
Speaker 4: that's you know.
Speaker 5: Did you ever did y'all ever have conversations about Yeah,
Speaker 5: we could rap about bussing our guns.
Speaker 1: We could rap about.
Speaker 5: People, I know y'all do, but not like the overglorification
Speaker 5: of people like now like nowadays you got people that
Speaker 5: just leave with that.
Speaker 1: And probably yeah.
Speaker 3: Nah nah man, We just we just we just do
Speaker 3: what we do, bro this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Whatever, if that track is like that, if it calls
Speaker 4: for certain a little bit of that, whatever, whatever, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, we throw frough that in there,
Speaker 4: hit him with this and with that, and you know,
Speaker 4: a couple of lines, you know, you got risk in them.
Speaker 4: They is like a doctor, bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So that's why his dogs be like all scientifical, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, even genius like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. That's why you know when I was saying
Speaker 4: like yo, nas and genius is like my favorite rapper
Speaker 4: is like yo, it's like, you know, he's smart.
Speaker 3: He's a genius for real real.
Speaker 4: So it's like and I learned a lot from them,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean so from all of them mainly,
Speaker 4: but yeah, he's just one that really sticks out.
Speaker 3: Like if I had his words and ship it'll be different.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: His words, like his vocal.
Speaker 4: I was a school I ain't really listen, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like you know what I mean, it
Speaker 4: was just I'm in school. But but the vocabulary, if
Speaker 4: the vocabulary was more, it'll be trouble.
Speaker 5: Have you ever heard yourself man talking about I'm talking
Speaker 5: about im?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like damn, it's like it's just on another level.
Speaker 4: And how I look at rap, It's like I just
Speaker 4: I don't know, KENNI. It's just a certain way how
Speaker 4: I see it. So I know, like if I was
Speaker 4: just throwing around the words that when he be throwing
Speaker 4: around like that but putting it applying to how I do.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just this this this my head would be
Speaker 3: a field day.
Speaker 1: Damn, heav prase coming from you. Man. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: when you look at.
Speaker 5: The documentaries and the TV shows about Wu Tang, do
Speaker 5: you feel Hollywood has ever told the full story?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: No? I mean basically not not for the Hulu series,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I mean, not for me.
Speaker 3: I can't speak for that.
Speaker 4: I can't speak on that for me, Like the Tony
Speaker 4: Starks story, you know what I mean. I didn't get
Speaker 4: a chance to tell nobody my story, like my side,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But you know, whatever is
Speaker 4: it had did or whoever was the writers for that,
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be, you know what they did
Speaker 4: what they had to do, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I'm glad he did it because it just opened
Speaker 4: us up to like a whole new audience.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but my side of the story it's different,
Speaker 4: Bro's it's different.
Speaker 3: So I didn't I don't feel like they did that,
Speaker 3: not with me.
Speaker 5: Why didn't you get to get to the studio to
Speaker 5: get on the Heaven Record man on j Z Magna Carta.
Speaker 3: Studio.
Speaker 1: I thought you was supposed to be on the Heaven
Speaker 1: Record with Ja.
Speaker 3: He he did. I think I might have. I think
Speaker 3: I might have did that. He didn't.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I think I think you remember, right, I
Speaker 4: remember writing to it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if they use it or maybe
Speaker 3: I didn't. I can't remember.
Speaker 4: Maybe I didn't.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He didn't make it or he wrote and he didn't
Speaker 6: use it.
Speaker 1: Didn't make it?
Speaker 3: Is it not? He make it? Did I write it?
Speaker 2: You got to beat Ray Ray? Ray was on his
Speaker 2: way up there to and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Didn't make it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what happened, but I know you didn't
Speaker 2: make it up there.
Speaker 1: I remember shooting to go up there.
Speaker 2: I think Ray made it up there.
Speaker 3: You didn't make it up. Did they do it?
Speaker 1: No, not on that record?
Speaker 4: They on it unless you right, oh yeah, man.
Speaker 5: But always the first time I ever heard Heaven, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 5: this sounds like a rhythm beat. And you know, Jay
Speaker 5: started off on hand. I was like, yo, ghost and
Speaker 5: Ray would have been crazy on it on.
Speaker 4: I caught bars to it though, right, You never went
Speaker 4: up You never made Oh okay, I know I did
Speaker 4: something to it. Yeah, all right, cool?
Speaker 5: Because I always I always wanted to hear you and
Speaker 5: Jay on the record to do it again video when
Speaker 5: you and Cap and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 4: I always wanted to get busy with Jay, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? But you know, j J, I guess
Speaker 4: what makes you not show up to the studio.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I was doing that day, I
Speaker 3: don't I don't I don't. I don't. I can't. I
Speaker 3: really can't remember. But it was. It was something though,
Speaker 3: But I would have did it, Duff I was writing
Speaker 3: to it. I would have did it. I don't know.
Speaker 3: One of those. I don't know, man, I just you know, damn.
Speaker 1: Well goes gotta go.
Speaker 3: Hold on.
Speaker 5: If Ghosts never picked up a microphone, where do you
Speaker 5: think Dennis Coles would be right now?
Speaker 3: I don't say that. It probably wouldn't be good. It
Speaker 3: wouldn't be good.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be good because we was out there doing it.
Speaker 4: We was out there still, you know, I mean I was,
Speaker 4: I mean riginally had to tell me, like, yo, listen, man,
Speaker 4: you can't really you can't mix park with beef bro.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I'm hearing what you're.
Speaker 4: Doing that whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. And I had to
Speaker 4: make a decision, you know what I mean. So that
Speaker 4: route that I was in, it was, Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: even in jail dance somewhere or whatever. Whatever the streets
Speaker 4: would have been calling for. That's what it would have been.
Speaker 4: That's why I say it wasn't mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Let's get into a joint off down what you want
Speaker 2: to hear?
Speaker 5: Go, you want to do rap, Kingpin, you want to
Speaker 5: do the joint with meth You you're my friend.
Speaker 1: What you want to do, what you want to.
Speaker 3: I mean you can do both. I forget, dude, do that.
Speaker 3: Didn't do that?
Speaker 1: You got to hear the pause? Get too on?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah yeah, hold on no, because yeah, man,
Speaker 4: the pauses and pauses. It's like yo, yo, I'll begetting
Speaker 4: here with the pause like yo, and you know we
Speaker 4: for the ever when we just talked talk like.
Speaker 1: Yo, were'sday.
Speaker 2: I'm ten songs that I hear that yet.
Speaker 1: But you hit the pause.
Speaker 4: Get no, when you get when you hit the albums
Speaker 4: all the way straight through, you'd be like, oh snap, yo,
Speaker 4: this is gliding that poor skit. I had to do
Speaker 4: it because it's like yo, heybody pausing me like you
Speaker 4: know this is you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, like this, how talk?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like yo, like I said
Speaker 3: when I told y'all blow your head off. Yeah but
Speaker 3: I'm serious, Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But Yo, it got the pause game is too much
Speaker 4: right now. I don't even think I ever told somebody
Speaker 4: pause like Paul, you know what I mean. But but
Speaker 4: I've been going at it all the time with the
Speaker 4: I mean like, Yo, he's crazy man. Yeah, man, I
Speaker 4: can't write my rhymes like the engineer telling me because
Speaker 4: he's younger than me. Yo, Yo, Yo, I don't think
Speaker 4: that's a good you know what I mean. I mean
Speaker 4: what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: You don't mean that's that's good nigga. This is my ship.
Speaker 4: I'm talking like this, yo, But you know this, And
Speaker 4: then he got me thinking, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So now I gotta change it up like I'm not
Speaker 4: used to that.
Speaker 1: Yo said.
Speaker 5: Now, we let you live for a long time. You know,
Speaker 5: back in the day, you said, Yo, we eat fish
Speaker 5: and toss salice.
Speaker 4: Make you know what I mean, that's a fresh salad,
Speaker 4: fresh house. You know we call tors house back then,
Speaker 4: fred y'all. But I mean, I'm a jail nigga. Just
Speaker 4: now in the third I got doing that. We gonna
Speaker 4: do that just continued from right there, tho. But yo,
Speaker 4: may yo, Now it's it's the game is crazy, man.
Speaker 5: I appreciate your brobs out right now, Coach face, Jap City,
Speaker 5: hold on my brother Dridge right here, we can do
Speaker 5: this compilation is jap City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more King, pull up, you're in the Club right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got that Yap City compilation coming up next,
Speaker 4: so we just want you to look out for that.
Speaker 3: We got sole Thing on the album as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely definitely artists. Yeah yeah, that's the label. Go Sade
Speaker 3: and Supreme to the Sole Thing. And we got talking
Speaker 3: about the record, sohol things. But that's that's that's all
Speaker 3: of you know, him, Wreak, the Villain, Pills.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we got Busy, my two sons on there,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Nim's you know, Iceman, Bronxman,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, the whole yeah, ill, yeah, he's up,
Speaker 4: he's a he's he's talking about.
Speaker 3: That on the record. Record on the red Yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: but hold on.
Speaker 5: She on the label too, absolutely, yeah, picked up that
Speaker 5: album's Face Killer.
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Good morning, hold up.
Speaker 5: Every day waiting, click your glass up The Breakfast Club finished.
Speaker 1: Y'all done