WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Ghostface Killah Talks 'Supreme Clientele 2,' Wu-Tang, Diddy, New Music Era + More 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:04.880 Every day we click your ass up the Breakfast Club. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.480 You don't finished for y'all done morning. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:11.119 Everybody's d J n V Jess hilarious. Charlamagne the guy 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.720 we are the Breakfast Club. He got a special guest. 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.200 In the building. My favorite MC of all time. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.040 Legend the coming Gentlemen, ghost Face Killer. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.400 Yah goa yo yo yo yo, what up? What up? 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:23.200 How you feeling? 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.959 Man? Now? We call him were cooling King? Glad to 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:26.760 be here right now? 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:33.000 Man had like three times, right, I think once twice alright, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:40.640 but lost friend at the wild you know, so you 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.920 had you had that face on, like yo, you know 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.920 what I mean? Downstairs, I was like, yeah, everything I 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.880 wanted to have, That's what I'm saying. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.000 This perfect time. And Supreme Clientele too, is out this Friday. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:51.400 That's right. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.440 You said you would never do a sequel to Supreme Clientele, 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:55.400 So what changed your mind? 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.280 No, it was it was it was the fans. It 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.840 was it was the fans. They kept calling for it. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.400 So I'm like, yo, for years they was calling for it, 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.920 So you know, gradually I was just I started back then, 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.480 like you know, I saved a couple of joints every 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.119 time I get a joint and I felt like could 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:10.600 be supreme. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.440 I just put it in the vote. Stash is stash it. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.040 So look on this album right here, I got like 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.800 maybe like five songs from like twenty years ago, seventeen 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:21.240 and better on it. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.240 You know, how do they know this body of work? 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:23.600 Was it? 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:23.840 Though? 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.959 This body works to be supreme clientele too, because. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.040 I kind of felt good about it, you know what 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.360 I mean. Besides the skits member last summer had like 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:32.520 a few Iron Man. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.120 Skits on it and stuff like that, but now they 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:35.000 really they on you. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.280 Now you really can't really do it, so you gotta 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.440 you gotta just think of like, Okay, which way I'm 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.200 gonna go. And that was one of the hardest parts 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.319 I had, just trying to find like a theme behind it, 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.880 you know what I mean. So you know, it took me. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:48.440 It took a while. It took a while, but I 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.400 got it. I feel like I feel I got it, 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.240 you know what I mean. But and it's a vibe. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.640 You know, when I create albums, I create vibes. So 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.160 if I could get ahead and hear it like all 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.640 the way through, then I know I'm good. Then I 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.840 got my I got my man's and my player. For 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.760 you know, I don't got no yes brothers around me. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:04.240 You know what I mean. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.400 So if they like yo, nah tone like you know 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.360 what I mean, then I weigh and judge it and 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.720 feel like I, you know what, Maybe he's right. I 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.600 tell him, like yo, what I feel about it, you know, 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.519 But I make the end decision at the end of 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.400 the day. So on this project, I just think that 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:21.320 we got a good vibe. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.840 Or now, how do you navigate the landscape today? How 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.880 do you like the landscape of music and musicians today? 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.760 Because you're the guy that drops and it gets out 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.959 the way. We don't see you, like literally ghost face, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.520 like get gone for years but on tour. So how 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.600 do you feel about the landscape today of music, of. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.840 Music, rap music? 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.280 I mean, you know, I mean it kind of shifted, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.040 Its shifted, you know what I mean, to another region 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.080 and I get it, you know what I mean, because 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.280 nothing stays the same. You just sometimes you just got 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.640 to adapt to it. But I realized that you just 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.519 got to do you You just got to stay in 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.360 your lane, just stay right in your lane or whatever, 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.320 you know what I mean. Because for the people I 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.320 came up with, you know what I mean, It's like 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.640 they still there. They're still out there, even though they 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.600 probably got grandkids and you know what I mean, whatever 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.720 the case may be, but you know this real music 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:09.560 still exists out there, you know what I mean. Not 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.040 trying to take away from what else is going on, 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:13.600 but you just gotta do you man. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.880 I feel like with this Supreme clientele too, it's not 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.520 even like you channeling your era. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.000 This just feel like eighty six to eighty eight. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:25.160 Yeah, because I'm I'm from that era, you know what 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.679 I mean. So I love that era, you know what 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.480 i mean. You know, I'm an R and B dude. First, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.160 you know what I'm saying. So it's like just to 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.639 try to go back and get it. That's what I 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.320 was telling you, like trying to just get a feeling, 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.640 get a feeling. Then I found it. Then I'm like, yo, 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.400 you know what, let me call it tay Bookie, you 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.080 know what I mean, and get it more, just just 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.240 to more create that feeling, you know what I mean. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.400 Because I was thinking, like, damn, what I'm gonna go it? 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.000 Like I said, I was thinking about a lot of rappists. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:48.880 Even Laurence Hill. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.480 I'm like, damn, she got miseducation to Lauryn Hill and 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.480 this one got that one. You know, I'm looking at 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.880 three feet high and rising and all the other stuff. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.560 And you know, twenty five years from the last time 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.080 we disc supreme clientele, it's like, yo, some brothers is dead, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:04.040 you know what I mean. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.080 And it was a vibe. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.400 It was like, you know, people don't understand, like if 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.200 you got a baby, you can't create the same baby, 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.640 you know what I'm saying. So fans be thinking that Joe, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.400 you gotta really do it, you know what I mean? 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.520 Like this, but it's you know, you first of all 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.080 these producers now they're not making the same beats and 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.479 stuff that they did before they caught up in like 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.320 right now, so's you know, I had to find a way, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.560 like and you know, like you said, God's time is 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.039 the best time, sol and that's that's why. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:33.360 We're hearing now. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.719 Were you afraid to call the supreme Well, not fear. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.080 Fear not the right word, but you have any hesitation 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.920 about calling a supreme clientele too, because that gives a 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.040 different expectation to the body of work. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.440 Not really, you know, with me, it's like if I 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.279 got the beats and I'm focused and I got time. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:52.599 I could do those all day. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.680 It just it's just a matter of the the really 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.040 the beats that could just drag me in it, because 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.039 the beats is everything, every every verse ever, whatever I 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.440 have it set on the beat. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.600 It's like the beat talk to me, you know what 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.200 I mean. I don't know if that makes sense, but 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.520 it just music. It's just taught. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.560 Like like when I did All I Got is You, 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.800 it just dragged me there, like I didn't know what 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.280 I was gonna do when I got it, you know 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.360 what I mean. I told Rizzidey, I want that bo 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.960 when I took it home and and just went another 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.960 way with it, just what I felt. 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.240 And that's what a lot of tracks I make. 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:28.960 So Yeah, but I'm confident in myself that I know 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.719 that I could do those. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.920 I could do those over and over and over again. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.520 Just give me some time. And that's it. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.240 You said you sat on records for nineteen twenty years. Yeah, 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.000 I can't hear that in the album. Though it doesn't 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.360 sound dated. It doesn't sounds. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.840 Hard right, like metaphysics right, like the other one I 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.800 did that was like twenty years ago. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:48.640 That's crazy. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.520 It was it was that. It was twenty years ago. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.560 The whole three verses was twenty years Then I got 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.160 a joint called Candy Land that was the same. I 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.400 just wrote the second verse on that, you know what 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.560 I mean, And me and me and Meth got one 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.640 called you my friend. That that's that's that's one of 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.800 them tear jerker joints. So it's like that's from back then. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:10.000 It's a few of them. Full disciple, Like you know, yeah. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:11.960 When you you said that when you hear a beat, 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.120 it takes you there. So the first time you heard it, 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.880 impossible beat? 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:17.680 Right, what was your energy? 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:17.919 Like? 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.160 What was going on in your your world that you 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.240 just hint that classic verse? 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.440 It was the beat. It was the beat. It sounded 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.800 like it was theatrical. So I'm like, I'm in the studio, 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.360 we're doing We're doing forever. So you know, I get 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.359 up in there and I just hear her that beat. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.760 And I'm one of them guys that I don't just 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.760 like a regular beat for the most when I'm doing that, 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.360 I like for the beat to get him and just 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.440 take me within the beat, like break down, just break 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.360 down on certain points so I can just get ahead 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.279 and just glide with it and just going that go right 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.760 into that pocket, then slip out and then you know 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.240 we go here, we go ahead, like and that's what 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:53.920 it just did to me. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.080 But it felt like it's talked to me like. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.960 Col ambulance Jamie evens shot Timmy, don't go something you 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.880 my mother fucking heart like like it just it just 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.600 it just it just had me there and I ain't. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.800 I think I might have came back the next day 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.560 and finished it because I just wrote a chunk and 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.000 then I had to leave it alone, like don't touch 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.480 you no more, like you know what I'm saying, Like 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.400 you come back and just and get it again. It 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:20.800 was all like it was all that, but you don't 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.720 want to when you're dealing with something great and you 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.960 could feel it, you don't want to just suck it up, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:26.480 you know what I mean. You just got to like yo, 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.600 hold on, just chill. You ain't got to force it. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.600 Came back and just and just finished it. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.200 Off with that. Based on the true story some of it, 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:35.280 some of it. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:40.480 Yeah, my son's uncle had got shot I think on 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.440 a on around the fourth of July when I was like, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.440 mother came down holding the rest with a gown on 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:46.360 and all that. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.760 It was like it was like I was when I 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:49.400 was in that pocket. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.840 It was like that one was was real, you know 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.400 what I mean a lot of other stuff I just 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.960 added behind it, like you know what I mean, but uh, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.480 the cop was real, officer low and all this shit. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.440 Yeah, So you know, I just like the gold places. 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.360 Or what are the artists like you who's so great 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.160 at storytelling on every single song, tell younger artists when 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.800 they come to you about trying to tell stories because 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.040 they're moving so fast. It's a lot different. You take 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.280 your time even in writing your music. How do you 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.080 mentor the younger artists who don't. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.880 Really get that as far as writing. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.120 Writing yep and putting it in like composing an actual 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.160 song from start to finish. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.120 I mean, like you said, take your time and just 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.360 think a lot of rappers nowadays, I don't think they 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:31.800 think you know what I mean. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.680 You know, knowledge is infinite, So it's like when you could. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.280 Just sit there and just this is art first, you 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:39.560 know what I mean, So when you could get ahead 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.400 and just use your mind and just just go, man, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.480 I don't care like when. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.200 We did when I round, when me and slick. We 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:47.360 did the Sun, but. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.400 Didn't make it on Bulletproof Wilence. It's nothing like that 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.040 because you risually couldn't find a sample. But it's like, Yo, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.640 it's just yo, that's the Sun, you know what I mean. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.959 You just got to like, if you got an imagination, you. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.839 Could just go there, just go. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.880 And I don't know how it is for other rappers, 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.480 you know what I mean, because a lot of rappers 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.600 is the one dimensional you know what I mean. I'd 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.560 be like, Yo, give me country, you know what I mean. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.240 Let me, let me, let me dive in there. You 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.360 know what I mean. I don't care it's opera whatever. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.160 Yo, let me just let me just go in and 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.720 and and I tried a way to finesse that. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.400 I'm just one of those kind of guys. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.760 So when I get the R and B tracks, which 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.920 is my best tracks, I get here, I demo that 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.600 I need a story here, you need an abstract track, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.800 you know what I mean. It's it's whatever because I 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.520 enjoy the music of it, like you know what I mean, 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.960 just the art form just period. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.559 But I think what you said, I think the trend 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.480 of I don't have to write. I think that kills 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:39.040 it right, but you know. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:40.200 What it is not to cut you off. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.960 It'd be like now I'm hearing just like jury women 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.520 cause bottles, you know what I mean. It's it's it's limited, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.640 like you know what I mean, Like I'll not be 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.319 thinking to myself where the cream would have work today 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:56.920 if we would have dropped that, like you know what 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:57.280 I mean. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.439 I don't know. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.720 The reason I think so is because I think about 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.880 the artists who are really having real success. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.840 They are detailed in a way. Whether it's the Kendrick Lamar, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:09.040 the j Drake. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.600 I'm just thinking about the guys from the last you know, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.839 fifteen years. They are very detailed in a way, right. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.200 I love them like they they music, they lyrics do 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.120 have a have layers to oh. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.559 Yeah, but they could all tell a story like Kendrick. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.120 He tells a story some of this rap. But that's 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.640 what I miss sometimes I miss driving and putting myself 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:27.920 into that story. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:28.880 Right, you know what I mean? Right right? 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.600 And I say it, Yeah, you said something man, you 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.040 said when you and slick Rick wrote the Sun like 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.160 yore the son, everybody can feel the sun to go 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.720 back to there impossible verse. I always felt like that's 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.679 that feels like a breeze. I don't know any other 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.720 way to describe it. Did you feel something like that 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.040 like a wind? Almost? 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:47.400 Still? I don't know. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.840 I just knew that it was something I can't even 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.680 I just knew it was something like and and like 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.000 the way the beat was, it was just like okay, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.920 just got more and then more and more and more 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.800 like like like it was like a movie, you know, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.840 And and that was it when I had to break 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.839 it down and get ready to stop and just ended it. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.719 And that's just how And I. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.960 Got a lot of verses like that, like they just 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.400 be like movies, you know what I mean. So I 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.640 don't know if something did I was when I was 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.080 into it, something was it was God blessed me with something, 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.600 and it was just on my back like like when 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.320 I just I just had to knock it out. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:30.520 Though. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.480 You know, when people talk about hip hop storytellers, right like, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.880 your name is up there with the Greats, the Slick Ricks, 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.080 the nas Is, the Biggies, all of those individuals. What 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.679 do you think separates your style of storytelling from them? 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:46.120 Probably because my emotions. I could spell that soul on it, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.400 like when I did holler, you know what I mean, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.240 Like like like old Dirty was like, yo, he's one 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.440 of them that gave me like a lot of my 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.200 soul too, besides me being in the living room getting 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:57.520 kicked out the liver room, you know what I mean 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:58.120 when he was young. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.160 But yeah, it was. I think it's a soul. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.880 I think I know how to like to lean on 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.839 on certain tracks and cry on them and just like 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.120 you know, like just do that, like just dig in. 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.120 Like did you did you always feel like being emotional 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.800 was like your superpower? Because especially in hip hop, you know, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.959 people often glorified being like cold and detached and emotionless. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:22.439 Did you feel like that was a super. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:23.880 Power for you later on? 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:25.520 Later on? 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.160 Like even when I hear all I got is you 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.120 and I spilled that into that like that a lot 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.480 of times it just I don't even like to I 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.760 never really performed that. Like I did it for John 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.400 Rule one time, and it was like I had to, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:38.880 like I told him no, like you know what I mean, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.600 But he was like, y'all, come on, y'o, yo, yo, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:42.559 you know what I mean. And I did it though, 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.920 like but because it's just brings back too much emotion. Yeah, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:52.319 of that, but I think but later on because even 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.240 God Bless the death Fat Man School, he was like, yo, man, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.679 he said yo, when you did that, he said, yo, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.720 go show or my I cried. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:06.600 I cried because that's me cry and and I'm like mad. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.920 People told me that they cried when they heard that record. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.679 So I'm like it freaked not freaked me out, but 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.959 it was like I had to look and be like, yo, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.800 you're making these people out here like a tears has 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.320 literally falling out your face over something that I went 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.840 like this. Then I start recognizing, like like what it 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.040 was like the gift or what you know? 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.480 Like I don't, I don't. I don't know, like you 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:30.320 know what I mean, And. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.400 You know it just gets deep at the while, like 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.000 when you think about it, like you. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.600 Always thought about wanted. How did your family feel about 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:39.160 all that I got? 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:40.720 Man? 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.040 I don't know. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.600 Yeah, yeah, asked them, you know what I mean? Ask 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:46.520 and never asked them. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.480 I just did it because some the type that just 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:52.000 do music and like this album, I might even listen 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:53.600 to it. No more like I don't listen to them. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.240 I just do it and get it out the way 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:55.640 I feel. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.280 I feel like I feel like sometimes you get there, 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.360 you you mad, you emotional, the angry, do it and 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.400 be like I'm done with this. That's how I feel 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:03.320 with your music. 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:04.800 I'm done with it. Yeah, I'm done with it. I'm 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.760 done with it, like like you've gotta I gotta hear 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.199 it over and over and over anyway. But yeah, man, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.560 it was it just it just it just be that 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.719 that emotion. Man, like I don't know, like you know 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.000 what I mean, the things I said, especially on that record, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.640 it felt like I gave people too much, you know 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:28.040 what I mean, like too much, But it just came 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.920 like that, you know what I mean. So it's there, 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.880 it's out in the world. You can't do nothing about it, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.080 like yo, but but you know, people take it. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:35.280 Though. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.520 Do you miss the competitive nature of the group? Right 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.600 the Wu Tang was was rocking and tight, right you know, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.120 if ODB comes with a verse like I gotta eat 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.000 his verse, or mess come with a verse, you gotta 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.080 eat that verse? Do you miss that element of it? 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:48.880 Of course? 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.800 Because even to right now, it's like if we all 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.960 getting there, Oh, it's it's a challenge, you know what 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.160 I mean. It's competitive. We're all trying to be better. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.400 Than what we want the best verse want it. He 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.400 wants it, he wants it. So you're around a bunch 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.800 of dogs in there that just want the same thing, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.320 you know what I mean. And and I remember back 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.240 in those days, like yo, if you couldn't make it, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.080 Oh yo, you wasn't getting on you know what I mean? 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.240 Brothers tall you like, Nah, that that's that's not it, 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.520 you know what I mean. So we haven't did that 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.840 in a minute, you know what I mean. Even if 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:22.040 it was right now, I know a few brothers will 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.240 get emotional or something like dude, you mean you telling 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.240 me I can't get on that, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.480 But that's just what it was like back then, Like yo, 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.320 Like even myself, if Genius was on there like that 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.000 and he and him and deck in him and it 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:34.720 was crazy. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.400 I can't touch it. I can't. I can't. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.280 Who is the one that you was like, I gotta eat? 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.440 That was always just coming to a ball madly. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:46.400 No, Nah, I know what you mean. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.440 I mean it was it was if I could do it, 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.360 it was everybody. It was everybody like because you want 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.280 that number one spot, like you know what I mean? 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.680 But I knew we're not to touch too, like, no, Tom, 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.040 you ain't got it right now, let that go? 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.440 And that was it? Yeah? 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:07.680 What record did you hear that on? 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:07.800 Like? 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.000 What's the one you missed? 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.720 I felt like Krirean. I always felt like been on cream. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.720 Not at that time, not at that time. No, they 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:17.720 was just him and Deck. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.600 That Deck had two verses, mighty ones, and you know 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.960 the other one to me was even better than that one. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.280 But really yeah, yeah he was saying something. He was 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.400 he was really inspected for real real. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:31.680 So what happened with that other bird? 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.520 I don't know. I don't think he put it out yet. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.920 Wow, I mean no, I mean yet, but I don't 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.200 even he's gonna do it, you know what I mean? 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.640 Something with some rubber bands, like wrapped in rubber bands. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.680 I gotta ask him about that again, like you know 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:42.000 what I mean? 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.000 But yeah, what was it again? 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.960 With what record? Did you missed that? You felt like? 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:48.040 Damn, I missed that one. 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.080 I mean even when I did Cuban, you know, but 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.760 I was on too much. So when Ray did ah Scarface, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:17:00.240 because I heard Scarface, it was like chumps, like because 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.600 yeah yeah. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.240 And I was like because I wasn't there, so I'm like, yo, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.640 when did he do that one? Like yeah? But then 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.960 Rizz was like, yo, nah, you're just too much. You're 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.280 doing too much stuff like that. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:16.160 He needs some solo ones, so that one, and you know, 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:17.280 I was there, we need. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.160 The spot Russians whatever the case may be. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.720 But uh yeah, like like that, but I know it 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.200 was mega more tracks though, Like you know what I mean. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.280 What made y'all want to remix? Can it be also simple? 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:28.159 I always think about it. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.720 I don't know if it was the if it was 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.400 a label or whatever they called for the remix or 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:35.800 maybe Rizz I'm not too sure. 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.040 Yeah, so yeah, I like I liked that track right 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:39.480 there too. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.240 I used to run around just screaming, Baggy Jean's wiould 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.680 be closed, pretty women. I put it in him, shout 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.960 up in him. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.320 Heard yeah, I'm telling you that. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.800 And those were the days though, those were the s 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.600 I missed those days because when I used to hear 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.000 like Biggie nas and like, it made me want to 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.800 go right, And I can't even run home to go 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:02.720 right no more, you know what I mean? Unless I'm 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.000 hearing the locks. Is somebody that that I really like? 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.400 That of my Piers that I could. You know, that's 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.560 getting busy, you know what I mean. But nowadays it's 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.840 really not like that. So a lot of times I 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.840 don't even listen. I listen to more R and B 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.800 than I do RAT you know what I mean, because 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.359 it's really not there for me, Like like, yo, you 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:20.680 just do it because you want to do it. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:21.600 Like you know what I mean. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.479 But I used to hear huh no, go ahead, Oh 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:23.840 not now. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.399 I'm just saying though, like Brother's back, like the Mob 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.320 albums or Noa's album drop. It was like, yo, I 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.080 gotta go right, gotta go right. I miss those days. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.440 I was just gonna ask, even when we were talking 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.480 about the song from twenty years ago, like what does 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.520 inspire you now? Because you don't really get with a 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:41.719 lot of the music now rat wise and R and 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.320 B wise, though, what do you listen to where you're like, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.280 I want to go now that you want to go 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:46.760 right after R and B? 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:48.280 Yeah, like what R and B songs? I mean? 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:52.280 You know you got I love Stevie, you know what 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:52.640 I mean. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:54.840 So it's still the older R and B. It's nothing 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:55.320 old R. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.720 And B and No and the Donelle Jones and all that, 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.400 the jahiemes and all that, like I'll catch a few bars, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.480 but I'm hearing that I'll just catch bars like like 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.840 like yo and be like yo, you know what I'm 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.280 I'm gonna do one of these kind of tapes or 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.480 whatever the case may be and just get it like 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.640 like you know, but that's that's I love that, especially nineties. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.320 What's your favorite feature on the R and B record? 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.800 Your your your personal favorite verse you spit on an 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:22.199 R and B. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.040 Record, favorite verse or favorite record? 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:29.200 Give me both? Then give me both. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:33.879 I never even looked at it like that before. 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.320 You never thought about what your favorite. 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.719 Don't don't be doing next? People ask me all the time, like, yo, 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.400 what's your favorite? I got mad records? 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:42.719 Mine is freaking you remixed with jobs? 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:44.280 All right? That was? 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.800 That was many ridiculous, man, You know what. 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.800 You might be right now that you said it. That 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:50.000 was I picked that one. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:50.760 That was a hard record. 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:51.600 I picked that one. 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.960 But the best one out that I that that that 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.800 that I had like was the one I do with Beyonce. 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:04.000 He made Summertime sound grimy summertime. But that freaking know that. 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.400 One, My that's number one, didn't That's number one that's 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.440 more than shade of me, you know what I mean? 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.919 But uh, yeah, no, we was in pocket with that. 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.800 Where was you? What was the Tell me how that 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:13.520 record happened? 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.159 He was in the studio with those guys. 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.280 We was in there, but y'all knew y'all was gonna 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:18.919 do a record up. 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:19.720 Yeah, we was. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:21.800 Coming in there to do the remix whatever, you know 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:23.760 what I mean. But I know that beat was that 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.000 chunky though, you know what I mean. When we got 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:27.679 in there and then he just put it on and 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.479 it was just crazy in there. They was in here 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.480 drinking that some red ship, some after shot ship, this 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:40.480 ship after shot after Yeah, that's what I tell. 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:45.040 You about some ship. 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.560 So so I'm like, but there was Ben, you know 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.320 what I mean, and he was just it was just 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:50.719 on there. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.800 So just me and Ray. Ray caught his. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.199 Lines while he's catching his lines and catching my lines 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.840 and showy show. 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:00.679 We just went and did it like he did he laders. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.560 I laid minds and it just came out the way 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:04.320 it just came out. 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:06.520 And Yo, sit back, kick your feet up on the 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.760 glass table, grab the remote, baby, check my niggas on cable. 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.520 I got the hay Love Album plus Jodah said, roll 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.520 it up, the Easy Riders and the Full Moons, conk 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.480 weed up, all up in the room, you got the munchies, 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:18.720 ice cold milk. 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:19.280 And long the dunes. 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:20.320 How you like it, baby? 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.480 I like it on the sink you freak me but 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:27.240 a long ma Oh my god, you study Islam, play 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:27.600 it off. 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:31.480 If my wife calls you and my cousin don. That 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:33.080 was crazy, man. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.200 Yo, there's a dose with those days. 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:35.440 Yo. 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:36.280 I don't know. 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.119 It's something in the air at that time. Man, it 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:40.560 was just it was just something. And then we was young, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:42.560 you know what I mean. So your mind is like 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:47.160 it's open, it's like to whatever. It's just adapting to what. 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:48.960 How did it feel performing it on Apollo? 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:55.080 It's crazy, It's crazy. Yeah, we just it was a moment. 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.159 See those as moments. Like the same thing when I 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.280 did with Beyonce at the Witch you mulda call it 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.560 at the Garden, I forgot my verse right before I 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:05.120 went on, like I'm scared to death. 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.040 Fuck, the building was shaken. I remember you say that 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:07.840 on the dot yo. 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:08.160 Nah. 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.600 Yeah, it was like that, but I just forgot the verse, 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.800 like like I knew it prior, but I just forgot it, 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:15.600 like you know what I mean, slick rick over there 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:17.960 throwing changed on and this and that and the third 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.760 you know what I mean. But then I'm like, she's 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:25.719 singing it already. It's like, Yo, I asked my manager, Yo, 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.200 what's my verse? You know what I'm saying, Like you, Mike, 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.399 he don't know, He's just a manager. I'm like, oh, snap, 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.800 Like yo, I'm scared to death, like I don't want 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.320 to do this in front of twenty thousand whatever it is. 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.400 I start walking up those steps. I saw a dame 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.879 dash like right there from this like looking down. He 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.040 must have seen all the truck shuit, you know what 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.120 I mean. He like, oh, I just seen his mouth say, 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.800 oh shit, bone Bom is coming closer. But I'm scared, 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.560 like what the but I gotta go out there. I 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:58.080 don't you know what I mean. God just smacked me bow, yo, 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.199 just like it just I just spit it up up 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.880 just as soon as it was my turn for the verse. 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:05.400 It's just like bow and that's and it was over. 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:07.439 That was it, And that was that was at an 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:08.119 official remix. 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:08.280 Right? 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:09.280 You did that on your own, right? 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:09.840 Yeah? 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:11.960 Because my man charm La rock when I was doing 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.399 pretty Chony album. He was out there was he was 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.480 out he live out there, so he's like, yo, tone, 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.439 like you know, Djack whatever, You're like, yo, Yo, I 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.639 got this joint yours Beyonce joint like YO, played it 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.120 for me fire, you know. I just went and later 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.720 it immediately, and I gave it to God bless the Dad. 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.879 Kate Slay gave it to him bawl and it was 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:33.520 on from there. And I was still out there while 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.120 I was getting played out here. So I came back 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.960 from there at the like doing my thing, and it 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:39.840 was was popping. 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.520 Do you ever look back and really think about and 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.840 take it all in the success of Wu Tang the 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.959 biggest group that logo. I mean, we had Pete Davison here, 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.480 he has he has a tattooed on them Superhero. But 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.360 it's not only that it transcends through generations, Like it's 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.920 not just fifty sixty you got thirty twenty year old 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.240 teams that still know that logo and still you know 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.800 y'all Walmart, like y'all, look, you ever look back and 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.479 be like Jesus just yeah, some kids from Staten Island. 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.280 It's just like we're gonna find a way. 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.000 Old they hit you, you know what I mean. 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:13.919 I started seeing it like that when I when I 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:15.720 got older, when I was young, you just in the mix. 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:17.639 But when you look, when you try to put. 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:22.600 Yourself on the outside looking in, it's like, yo, I 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:23.760 didn't know it was gonna be like that. 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.080 I just knew that we was coming in to do damage. 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:28.240 I said, you ain't nobody playing with anybody. 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:31.320 Anybody. We're just too ill like boom. But then at 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.960 the while it just turned into some cold you. 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:34.360 Know what I mean. 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.159 And then you still hear like like I seened a 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.840 lot of my favorite like like not old I like 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.760 saying old school rappers, but you know that you once 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.200 you look up to it's like, yo, we're still selling out, 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.119 like like right now. And then my best year with 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.480 these guys was like the tour that we just did 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.399 like like like yo, like like you know what I mean, 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.640 it's Matt thirty some years later. So but yeah, nah, 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.920 it's a it's an amazing yo, man. And I say 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.760 to myself, I'm like, yo, like I know there's people 0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.359 that went to the grave with that w you know 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.280 what I mean, Like I be in Australia. One kid 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.000 pulled down his pants. It was like yo, so whole 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.960 thigh was on dirty fast his face like yo, nigga, 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.240 you know what I mean? Like yo, and I'm like yo, wow, 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:19.200 like like I'm just grateful. I'm just I'm just humbled 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.440 to be a part of something that that's living when 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.400 they said it was forever and you know, I guess 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.000 the universe took it like that because I'm seeing. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:28.880 Like seven year old kids. 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.000 It stands, you know what I mean, little ones even 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.679 little more than that with shirts on. 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.119 I'm like, damn, like it's still going, like you know 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:38.560 what I mean. So I don't know. 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:40.600 I'm just here to keep that flag, to raise the 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.679 whatever flag I could raise, and just keep it the 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:43.400 movement going. 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.240 Like That's why it's so interesting that you drop a 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.320 Supreme clientele two at a time like this, because back 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.560 in two thousand, when you drop Supreme Clientele, there was 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.080 a lot of people that was like yo, that saved 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.280 the Wu Tang brand in a lot of ways, like 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.600 really kept that flag held high. Did you feel that 0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.359 pressure when you were making it back then or you 0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:58.959 just were in a. 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:00.560 It was just zoning out because you know, what happened. 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.919 Remember how I be saying like yo, iron Man, was 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.159 like they only gave me like a few months to 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:06.359 get ahead and to do that. 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.199 Yeah, you bug it. Every time I say that, I'm like, oh, 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:08.600 bugging you. 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.840 No why I just rolled all over Cuba Lynx. I 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:14.240 just rode. 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.240 I just skated on it and to get ahead. And 0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.040 you know, I got rushed with a contract. I'm young, 0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:21.800 like you know what I mean. So it's like when 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.560 you're gonna hit me with like four or five hundred 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.679 thousand dollars, but I got to hurry up and do 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.119 it in like like two months, like sixty they is 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:30.720 something like that. It's like I had to make a decision, 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.080 you know right then you know when you be like 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:37.640 hold on gee, But that's that is that I took that, 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:39.600 you know what I mean. But I was undepressed under 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.480 the gun. And my best friend just he done got 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.800 caught for something that a body that he even commit. 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.720 It was dog diabetes is on you, you know what I mean. 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:52.040 So it was just it wasn't you know, it was 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.320 just it was gloomy for me. Then I'm shooting it 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:55.840 out with the del phonics. 0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:56.880 It's just bad. 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:57.760 This just going on. 0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.240 You know what I'm saying. It was just mad. It 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.080 was just crazy. But I got to. 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.639 Sit there and and and and try to try to 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.600 get this thing done. So it was like only thing 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.600 I really liked about it. It was a couple of 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.600 songs put all I got is you you know what 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.800 I mean. But the album cover was the private Fly 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.639 seven album cover I ever did. But and that's that's it. 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.360 But I'm just saying I stated on links right, But 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.919 then it was like, Okay, I didn't you know, I 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.960 wasn't satisfied. So when we got the Supreme Clientele, it 0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.359 was like, Okay, I had more, more time, you know 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:33.760 what I mean. 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:34.360 More. 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:35.960 I think I might have did like quick six months, 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.879 real quick, if I'm not mistaken, then came back and 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.679 finished it off rkers, But yeah, it was it was 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.639 just it was just something that I knew that I 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.399 always could do. Because at first I was going to 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.240 name my first album, was gonna name that Supreme Clientele, 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.240 you know what I mean. But they was like on 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.080 iron Man which one? So I had to I asked 0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:58.040 Rizid Raiding. They just went with iron Man first Classic. 0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.679 Yeah, I don't care what you say. I've heard you 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.480 say that, I heard I drink Champs. I'm like, what 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.880 classic record Wildflower cam made? 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:10.440 Daytona five hundred nut Meg was on spreakline that's preme. 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.959 Yeah, yeah, but I get it. But it was just 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:15.880 it was just me because it was just a spirit 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.240 it was. It was kind of like dark and cloudy 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.520 to me, like like even rap wise, I wasn't really 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.439 like like like dead with it. I had to hurry up, 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.280 and I don't like being rushed. So that's why I 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.639 don't get deadlines no more. If I'm doing music, I 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.800 don't want no deadline, like let me go. 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:32.320 You know. 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.320 The first time I met Ghost, I was drunk as 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.680 hell at a party. Some party went throwing. I ran 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.640 upon him outside and started rapping wildflowers. 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.640 I remember that. I remember that somewhere. 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.360 Your bit your friend, stay hold, I see you on 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:49.720 the helipade, honey grab I. 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:53.840 Can't go, And you did tell me back then, yo yo, 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.920 my favorite rap whatever man exactly. Now, I respect that respect. 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.720 Sometime I write a couple of bars, a couple of songs, 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.640 and I might think, like I might think of you, 0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.280 like you know what I mean, Like I wonder what 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:07.960 he gonna think about this, you know what I mean? 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:10.840 Like, yo, like you know what I'm saying. So nah, 0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:11.920 that's love right there. Though. 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.040 You know in the in the press release for the 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.880 Supreme clientele Too, it says a real rap, no gimmicks. Right, 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:19.800 It's like you don't like you don't like gimmicks and rap? 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:21.520 What do you say? 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:23.680 I saw a press release it was like this Supreme 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.720 Client Teller is about real Supreme Clint tell twos about 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:26.800 real rap, no gimmicks. 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.280 Oh okay, but when you will walk when you had the. 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.440 Stocking mask on back in the right right and you 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.600 were a ghost Face killer, did you consider that a gimmick? 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.240 No? I ain't, No, I wasn't even thinking like that. 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.800 It well, just like yo, it was his ghost face. 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:42.840 It was like you know where I got the name 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.360 from mystery a chest boxing, you know what I mean, 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.960 the god It was ghost Face, the ghost Face Killer. 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.200 You know, he came back after twenty years and just 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.160 started like doing what he do. But I just felt, 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.640 for some reason at that time, I thought that name 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.800 applied to me, you know what I mean. So you 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.000 know I threw the mask on, you know what I mean. 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.720 But I took the masks off. I took the mask 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.280 off because I didn't really have no other masses like 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:06.400 I had stocking. 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:07.560 Cap on, you know what I mean. 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.479 So it's like, you know, you can't really wrap all 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.720 day with a cat on like that, so you couldn't 0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.959 breathe you heard. So I'm like, yo, now this got 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.000 to go, man, you know what I mean. But you know, 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.920 as time went on, like now, you know they got 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.960 things like that where you can throw a mask on it, 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:22.880 you know, do what you want to. If I would 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:23.840 have kept that mask on. 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:28.120 It, that made your mythical figures even back then, because 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.840 you know, you be talking like, yo, it was wrong 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:31.360 with ghost face. 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.080 People like y'all think his face is just figured. 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.520 Run yeah, run and all that. I heard all that, 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.880 you know what I mean. It was just it was 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:41.800 just ghost face. 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:42.720 That's what you wanted to do. 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:43.880 You know. 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.680 During the recent interview, there was always a room in 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:50.760 New York that that puff Banjohn from radio. That was 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.960 a big rumor for years and years and years, right, 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:54.200 and you kind of confirmed that. 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:55.120 So that was true. 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.400 Yeah, yeah, like you don't know you was a DJ. 0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.520 I didn't work I was I didn't work that during 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:00.080 that time I was. 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.880 Yo now because yeah, Rizzie was telling us. He was like, yo, 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.479 he said, yeah, Puff admitted to it, like it was talking, 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:10.880 and I think rizz asked him the question and Puff 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:11.440 agreed to. 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:12.640 It, you know what I'm saying. 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.320 And I'm like, because it was just like after that 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.479 hot ninety seventh thing, it just went, haywhy it just 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.280 went Things just went down like it was. 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.160 It ain't even fail right, no more and and and. 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.600 If Puff did that, that was a nice chance move, 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:28.840 you know what I mean, because he told Rizzy he said, yo. 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.000 But y'all was just too like coming up. You know, 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.440 hold on, did Dirty did that? Did Dirty do that? 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.160 Before that? Or that was after Dirty? They had the 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.960 Grammys he did it? That was after after after. 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.480 He did that? Had to be like ninety eight after 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:45.520 I think it. 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:45.880 Was all right? 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.800 So we did Forever in ninety seven, right right, Yeah, 0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.120 Yo nominated for Album of the Year. 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.280 It was no way out Life after Death? Who tang Forever? 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:56.920 I forgot what else was in that category? 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:57.360 Right? 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.880 So yeah, so he was like yo, he said something 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.840 like yo. Puffer is like saying that, yo, y'all was I. 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.320 Guess we was this competition, you know, what I mean. 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.520 And yeah, and it just was on that that time 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.840 right there, so we they banned us. I guess we 0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.840 should have just stayed on and raised against the machines. 0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.200 You know what I'm saying, Well, how did that make 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.160 y'all feel back then when you saw, like even now, 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:21.320 but when you saw all of those white. 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.760 People embraced war tank, y'all was so pro black still 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:24.280 now though. 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.080 White people started coming, I don't know. 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.040 I always think I think about that, and I just 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.440 think that might have been the knowledge we I mean, 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.880 first of all, you got non members we up there, 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.160 like earth Wind and fire Man. Everybody is just different, 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.840 unique in their own way, and I don't think I 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.280 don't think they probably ever seen nothing like that. It 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.200 didn't especially when you got brothers speaking the truth, and you. 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.440 Know, like like like like like. 0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.680 The people, when you hear the truth, you become attracted 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:54.840 to that, you know what I mean, and everything else. 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.600 So it's I think it's a few things. 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:02.880 That that, uh, that got the whole world just to 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.680 just to come in, not just blacks, Latinos and stuff 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:06.920 like that. 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.440 So yeah, man, it's funny because when we go overseas. 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:15.280 It's like it's like mania, Oh shit, like inga you 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.920 get more I say, more love, but it's it just 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.040 feels like they just on it. 0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.640 You said, you made more money in the last couple 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.880 of years than you made before. Torn right with the 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.800 new group? Well with with this group. I know there's 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.640 always problems with the group. Would y'all consider keep going 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.200 on to it because y'all made more than y'all ever made, 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.760 And I know sometimes the groups is the most difficult thing. 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:36.760 Everybody got to schedule. 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.560 Everybody got an emotion of feeling right with that continue 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:41.800 to happen with what's your thoughts on it? 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:43.600 I mean, I think so you know what I mean, 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:47.200 Like when when Rizza said he said he said, he said, 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.360 like a couple of years ago, Yo, we're gonna do 0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.680 this Vegas thing and then we're gonna we're gonna just 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.240 uh uh through through a char Then we entered it. 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.560 Off right there. But then it like that's it just 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:58.080 flew by. 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.400 So when he was up here telling y'all, like, yo, 0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.000 that shit was a shocking to me, Like hold on, 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.920 we're talking about bro, you know what I mean? And 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.279 you know, final chapter this and that and the third 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.160 and I'm like I ain't here about that. 0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.279 I ain't know that it's right now, you know what 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:13.600 I'm saying. 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.680 I know it's right now, like like yo, so but 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.440 in my heart, in my heart, I feel like we 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:21.359 still got more to give. 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.280 But I don't. I don't think it's over over, But. 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.680 I just didn't understand the fact of like yo, like damn, 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.319 the final chapter. It's like nigga, we're still selling out 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.680 right regardless, like like like you didn't have to call 0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.960 it that, you know what I'm saying, or that's just 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.920 something else like like you know, and but you know, 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:40.280 whatever it was, it was beautiful. 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.480 Have y'all talked that all. Have y'all talked that all 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.640 about continuing after this final tour? 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.400 That was because when we left that last to everybody 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.520 was like peal, we mean you know what I mean, 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.680 just everybody just went I think we might got some 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.319 dates coming up in Europe probably that they're trying to 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.000 do it whatever, but not to really be like yo, 0:34:58.160 --> 0:34:59.680 all right, where we're going from where we're. 0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.560 Going from here? You know what I'm saying. 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.480 But like I said, to my heart, I feel like 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.400 we're gonna I feel it ain't it. I mean when 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.760 you got Bruce Springsteen and these Beatle Cats still going 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:11.960 and sharing all these. 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.239 It's like, nigga, what money, go get that ship. 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.160 But I got so many records together solo, like y'all 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:19.480 be on stage for four hours. 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:19.960 Yeah we do. 0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.360 Yeah, and it'd be hard to pick sometime from the 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.319 records from like that or whatever. 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.120 Then you got some brothers with less records. 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.960 That's like, yo, now you can't do all that because 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:30.920 you know what I mean, these guys gotta you know, 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.040 whatever whatever, So it always be like that. That's one 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.360 thing about us though, like we can never make a 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:37.120 straight decision. 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.080 It's too many, you know what I mean? 0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.200 You know mean I want to bring a white ferry couch. 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.040 I don't stead do all this then, yo, come on, No, 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.040 we got a step of wardrobe, but yo, we can't 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:48.799 be out here looking like we ninety three, like back 0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.319 in ninety two, miss and that and the third Yo, 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.799 I seen them. I seen Bell BIV devoing them. Matter 0:35:55.840 --> 0:36:02.440 of fact, the whole new addition at New Orleans that. 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.760 Yo, flies they changed their outfits together. 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.120 Yes, like yo, that's supposed to be us and telling 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:10.759 Ray like yo, look look look boom, you know what 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.319 I mean but then when you bring it back to 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:16.040 the guys, they'd be excited, but then it's like, nine, nigga, 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.760 I'm not throwing that on this SNA and the thirst. 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.680 So I'm like, once you get three and four saying 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.880 they're not doing it, the whole idea is. 0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:23.920 A rat oh. 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.160 I felt like w Tang and New Addition were like 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.800 like cousins because when you look at Wu Tang and 0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.200 you look at New Addition, there they both essentially did 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.640 the same thing. You can't name a group where damn 0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.600 that every member had individual success like that, Like they 0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.920 come together in a group of success, but then they 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:40.680 break apart and do BBD and. 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:44.239 Right. 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.120 They'll had conversations about that. 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:46.759 Now. 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.719 I wanted to go on to roll with them, you 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:50.560 know what I mean, Like, Yo, let's see how that'll go, 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.440 you know what I mean. But yeah, we never really 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.320 like I mean, I know, I wasn't in the conversation. 0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.600 It was though, you know, you know the onest thing 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.000 about Wu Tang. I read all of y'all books, right, 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:02.960 I read Ray book, I read your book. You got 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.600 y'all was so deep in the street. But that's not 0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.640 what y'all put out there in the music, y'all chose 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.640 to talk about the lessons and you know, talk about 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.359 God and like give people something of substance. Was that 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.920 intentional because y'all could have been the stream superstreet rappers 0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:19.640 if y'all wanted to. 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.520 I think in all reality, I think with us, I 0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:27.439 think we just I mean, I mean, besides the street 0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.360 stuff and stuff, I think we just respectful. 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.279 We just good dudes. Man. That that when we were. 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.440 Young, you know, you were surrounded by a bunch of 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.160 not a bunch, but you know certain people that was intelligent, 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.919 that was giving you mathematics and hit trying to gud 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.080 you in the right direction, you know what I mean. 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.440 And then you know, butang is like like mainly all 0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.400 god body, you know what I mean. So when you 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.400 when you want to bus traveling, you know, when the 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.680 lessons start getting pulled out and this and that and 0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:53.200 the third it. 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.520 Just it just shapes you, you know what I mean. 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.600 So a lot of that like my seeds run with 0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.319 his seeds, married his money, you know what I mean, 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.359 All that is like part of that. It's just it's 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.360 just it just it just when your mom was that 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.960 like and you know, and you know we didn't that 0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:10.520 we mix it up with that, mix it up with that, 0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:14.280 you know, you know, but yeah, for the most part, 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:15.120 that's you know. 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.040 Did you ever did y'all ever have conversations about Yeah, 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:19.399 we could rap about bussing our guns. 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:20.480 We could rap about. 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.520 People, I know y'all do, but not like the overglorification 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.840 of people like now like nowadays you got people that 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:27.520 just leave with that. 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:28.520 And probably yeah. 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.880 Nah nah man, We just we just we just do 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:35.600 what we do, bro this, you know what I mean. 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.560 Whatever, if that track is like that, if it calls 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.160 for certain a little bit of that, whatever, whatever, you 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.080 know what I mean, we throw frough that in there, 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.160 hit him with this and with that, and you know, 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.120 a couple of lines, you know, you got risk in them. 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.600 They is like a doctor, bro, you know what I mean. 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:52.680 So that's why his dogs be like all scientifical, you 0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.840 know what I mean, even genius like you know what 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.040 I mean. That's why you know when I was saying 0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.560 like yo, nas and genius is like my favorite rapper 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.360 is like yo, it's like, you know, he's smart. 0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:03.959 He's a genius for real real. 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.160 So it's like and I learned a lot from them, 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.040 you know what I mean so from all of them mainly, 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.440 but yeah, he's just one that really sticks out. 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.960 Like if I had his words and ship it'll be different. 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:14.800 That's crazy. 0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:16.120 His words, like his vocal. 0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.239 I was a school I ain't really listen, you know 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:19.920 what I mean, Like you know what I mean, it 0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:24.839 was just I'm in school. But but the vocabulary, if 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.200 the vocabulary was more, it'll be trouble. 0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:31.160 Have you ever heard yourself man talking about I'm talking 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.200 about im? 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.640 Yeah, Like damn, it's like it's just on another level. 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:41.680 And how I look at rap, It's like I just 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.000 I don't know, KENNI. It's just a certain way how 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.080 I see it. So I know, like if I was 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.720 just throwing around the words that when he be throwing 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.680 around like that but putting it applying to how I do. 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.759 Oh, it's just this this this my head would be 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:56.480 a field day. 0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.799 Damn, heav prase coming from you. Man. Come on, man, 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:01.839 when you look at. 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.400 The documentaries and the TV shows about Wu Tang, do 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.160 you feel Hollywood has ever told the full story? 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:07.399 Right? 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:15.000 No? I mean basically not not for the Hulu series, 0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.200 you know what I mean? I mean, not for me. 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:18.000 I can't speak for that. 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.000 I can't speak on that for me, Like the Tony 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.319 Starks story, you know what I mean. I didn't get 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.640 a chance to tell nobody my story, like my side, 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.320 you know what I mean. But you know, whatever is 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.200 it had did or whoever was the writers for that, 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.239 whatever the case may be, you know what they did 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:35.680 what they had to do, like you know what I mean. 0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.080 And I'm glad he did it because it just opened 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.360 us up to like a whole new audience. 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:42.120 You know what I mean. 0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:47.160 But yeah, but my side of the story it's different, 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:48.960 Bro's it's different. 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.640 So I didn't I don't feel like they did that, 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:52.560 not with me. 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.239 Why didn't you get to get to the studio to 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.200 get on the Heaven Record man on j Z Magna Carta. 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:01.480 Studio. 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.120 I thought you was supposed to be on the Heaven 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:03.839 Record with Ja. 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.359 He he did. I think I might have. I think 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.160 I might have did that. He didn't. 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:14.600 Maybe maybe I think I think you remember, right, I 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.359 remember writing to it, you know what I mean. 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.680 And I don't know if they use it or maybe 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:19.800 I didn't. I can't remember. 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:23.520 Maybe I didn't. 0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:25.760 Maybe you know what I'm saying. 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.040 He didn't make it or he wrote and he didn't 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:28.359 use it. 0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:29.560 Didn't make it? 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.040 Is it not? He make it? Did I write it? 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.120 You got to beat Ray Ray? Ray was on his 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:35.560 way up there to and stuff like that. 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:36.880 Didn't make it. I don't know. 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.959 I don't remember what happened, but I know you didn't 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:39.560 make it up there. 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.359 I remember shooting to go up there. 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:43.680 I think Ray made it up there. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.640 You didn't make it up. Did they do it? 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.360 No, not on that record? 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:53.359 They on it unless you right, oh yeah, man. 0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.440 But always the first time I ever heard Heaven, I'm like, yo, 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.839 this sounds like a rhythm beat. And you know, Jay 0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.960 started off on hand. I was like, yo, ghost and 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:01.960 Ray would have been crazy on it on. 0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.480 I caught bars to it though, right, You never went 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:08.160 up You never made Oh okay, I know I did 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.799 something to it. Yeah, all right, cool? 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.640 Because I always I always wanted to hear you and 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.279 Jay on the record to do it again video when 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:19.080 you and Cap and. 0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:19.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, No. 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:21.840 I always wanted to get busy with Jay, you know 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:25.839 what I mean? But you know, j J, I guess 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:27.520 what makes you not show up to the studio. 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:29.759 I don't know what I was doing that day, I 0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.799 don't I don't I don't. I don't. I can't. I 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.359 really can't remember. But it was. It was something though, 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:35.800 But I would have did it, Duff I was writing 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.600 to it. I would have did it. I don't know. 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:45.000 One of those. I don't know, man, I just you know, damn. 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:46.520 Well goes gotta go. 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:46.880 Hold on. 0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:48.880 If Ghosts never picked up a microphone, where do you 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:50.440 think Dennis Coles would be right now? 0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:54.759 I don't say that. It probably wouldn't be good. It 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:55.480 wouldn't be good. 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.200 It wouldn't be good because we was out there doing it. 0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.759 We was out there still, you know, I mean I was, 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.239 I mean riginally had to tell me, like, yo, listen, man, 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.239 you can't really you can't mix park with beef bro. 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.200 You know what I mean. I'm hearing what you're. 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:10.400 Doing that whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. And I had to 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.920 make a decision, you know what I mean. So that 0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:17.680 route that I was in, it was, Yeah, it was 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.600 even in jail dance somewhere or whatever. Whatever the streets 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.600 would have been calling for. That's what it would have been. 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:26.399 That's why I say it wasn't mm hmm. 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.040 Let's get into a joint off down what you want 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:29.239 to hear? 0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.160 Go, you want to do rap, Kingpin, you want to 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.520 do the joint with meth You you're my friend. 0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:35.480 What you want to do, what you want to. 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:39.399 I mean you can do both. I forget, dude, do that. 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:44.520 Didn't do that? 0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:47.920 You got to hear the pause? Get too on? 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:53.680 Oh yeah yeah yeah, hold on no, because yeah, man, 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.640 the pauses and pauses. It's like yo, yo, I'll begetting 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.759 here with the pause like yo, and you know we 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.360 for the ever when we just talked talk like. 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:01.080 Yo, were'sday. 0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:02.359 I'm ten songs that I hear that yet. 0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:03.279 But you hit the pause. 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.720 Get no, when you get when you hit the albums 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.920 all the way straight through, you'd be like, oh snap, yo, 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.880 this is gliding that poor skit. I had to do 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.279 it because it's like yo, heybody pausing me like you 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:17.360 know this is you know what I'm. 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:18.319 Saying, like this, how talk? 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:18.600 Bro? 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.080 You know what I mean? Like yo, like I said 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:25.400 when I told y'all blow your head off. Yeah but 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:30.160 I'm serious, Yeah you know what I mean. 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.839 But Yo, it got the pause game is too much 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:35.360 right now. I don't even think I ever told somebody 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:39.120 pause like Paul, you know what I mean. But but 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:40.400 I've been going at it all the time with the 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.200 I mean like, Yo, he's crazy man. Yeah, man, I 0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:48.600 can't write my rhymes like the engineer telling me because 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.480 he's younger than me. Yo, Yo, Yo, I don't think 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.920 that's a good you know what I mean. I mean 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:53.640 what you're talking about. 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.799 You don't mean that's that's good nigga. This is my ship. 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.200 I'm talking like this, yo, But you know this, And 0:44:58.200 --> 0:44:59.960 then he got me thinking, you know what I mean? 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.520 So now I gotta change it up like I'm not 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:03.040 used to that. 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:04.520 Yo said. 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.719 Now, we let you live for a long time. You know, 0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:08.359 back in the day, you said, Yo, we eat fish 0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:09.280 and toss salice. 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:18.160 Make you know what I mean, that's a fresh salad, 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.440 fresh house. You know we call tors house back then, 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.480 fred y'all. But I mean, I'm a jail nigga. Just 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:26.880 now in the third I got doing that. We gonna 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.640 do that just continued from right there, tho. But yo, 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.600 may yo, Now it's it's the game is crazy, man. 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:38.400 I appreciate your brobs out right now, Coach face, Jap City, 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:40.560 hold on my brother Dridge right here, we can do 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.000 this compilation is jap City. 0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:47.640 Yeah, more King, pull up, you're in the Club right now. 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.560 Yeah, we got that Yap City compilation coming up next, 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:51.960 so we just want you to look out for that. 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.680 We got sole Thing on the album as well. Yeah, 0:45:54.800 --> 0:46:00.600 definitely definitely artists. Yeah yeah, that's the label. Go Sade 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.279 and Supreme to the Sole Thing. And we got talking 0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.399 about the record, sohol things. But that's that's that's all 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.640 of you know, him, Wreak, the Villain, Pills. 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.040 Oh yeah, we got Busy, my two sons on there, 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:16.440 you know what I mean, Nim's you know, Iceman, Bronxman, 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:20.799 you know, yeah, the whole yeah, ill, yeah, he's up, 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:22.360 he's a he's he's talking about. 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.439 That on the record. Record on the red Yeah yeah yeah, 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:25.279 but hold on. 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.560 She on the label too, absolutely, yeah, picked up that 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.480 album's Face Killer. 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:31.439 It's the Breakfast Club. 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:32.839 Good morning, hold up. 0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:37.720 Every day waiting, click your glass up The Breakfast Club finished. 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:38.279 Y'all done