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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, bella chow bella chow bella chow child chow.

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Speaker 1: In this jam packed final vacation episode from Italy, Robot

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Speaker 1: and I endure a hilarious robbery attempts. Also, I now

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Speaker 1: know what it's like to date a vampire for reasons

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. Robot curses like crazy in every Catholic

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Speaker 1: church she enters. And do you know the difference between shorts,

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Speaker 1: jean shorts, Bermuda shorts, board shorts and shorts? Why Eat,

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Speaker 1: Pray Love is now my favorite book I've never read

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Speaker 1: in my favorite movie I've never seen. Plus, white ladies

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Speaker 1: are on the menu in Rome and I ordered one

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Speaker 1: right in front of Robot last night, And folks, it

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Speaker 1: finally happened. Robot, in a moment of frustration, snapped at

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Speaker 1: me on this vacation. Wow, and coming back as a

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Speaker 1: married couple was awfully tempting. And with all of that,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. Let's

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Speaker 1: stood out to you there.

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Speaker 2: I love how you surprised me in these intros. I

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Speaker 2: never quite know what you're gonna say, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's by design, obviously.

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Speaker 1: But that was a lot.

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Speaker 2: There were a couple of disease in there.

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Speaker 1: Does that was our vacation. There was a lot to happen.

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Speaker 2: We took notes a lot. No, you took notes. I

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Speaker 2: was impressed everything that happened. You were like, wait, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm not texting anyone, I'm just making notes for the podcast.

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Speaker 2: And you did that quite often over the last few days,

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Speaker 2: which was very cool. I was like, you know it

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Speaker 2: full picture of what this vacation has been like.

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Speaker 1: Again, the last couple of episodes, we've talked about what's

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Speaker 1: going on back home, but you know what, for fun

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Speaker 1: and shits and giggles, we're going to talk about what's

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Speaker 1: been happening with us here. And so this happened to

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Speaker 1: us last night. Let's since we've been here. I New

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Speaker 1: York is you know, you got to keep your eye

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Speaker 1: another level to where everyone it seems like we ran

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Speaker 1: into was warning us, yes, hold on to your bag,

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Speaker 2: Everywhere we went. The only English they could speak was

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Speaker 2: to say, watch out for your bag, like, be careful

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Speaker 2: about your purse. They were very aware that the pickpocketers

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Speaker 2: I've been here and I just never felt that threat.

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Speaker 2: But yet last night we had this was hilarious and

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I wouldn't even know I would

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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess I'm the one in our relationships that's

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Speaker 1: the one with the head on the swivel all the time, always,

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Speaker 1: and that was the case last night. Now I'm usually

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Speaker 1: looking how.

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Speaker 2: But this time it worked out for pick potter.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to put people in in in the context

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't look like the others. And then she

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Speaker 1: It didn't harm you though I didn't even know.

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Speaker 2: She's situational awareness is not at the level of yours is.

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Speaker 1: Would you argue that it's gone down even lower because

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Speaker 2: The street when we're thank you baby, because I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: This is my trust for you. It's true if I

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Speaker 2: and it's one of the I'm bringing my feminine energy

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Speaker 2: But I actually feel myself being different than I've been

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, he's got me, he's watching out for us,

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Speaker 2: because I think with you, you are Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I think you're like the You're the first person I

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Speaker 1: Your guard was so down last night. Because this one

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Speaker 2: I mean our feet could have played foot.

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Speaker 1: Everything's right, So we have our bag with or whatever

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then my jacket, your.

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Speaker 1: Jacket, your per we're under the table. Actually tucked them

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Speaker 2: It's like when you're in an elevator, you're going to

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Speaker 2: she came and sat right next to us when there

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Speaker 1: So I am now I recognize it, and I'm looking

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Speaker 2: In my mind, I was like, what what woman? I

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Speaker 1: So the woman actually was trying to with her foot

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Speaker 2: You said you order that, and you kept your eyes

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Speaker 1: I wasn't staring at her, but it was just I

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Speaker 2: You actually wish that you had let it longer. I

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Speaker 1: Yes, but so eventually I don't know what her English,

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Speaker 2: You were having to overtly explain to me what was

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Speaker 2: she knew enough English to know that she was outed.

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Speaker 1: But she got up and started banging, like she's.

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Speaker 2: Pissed that we now know she was trying to steal

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Speaker 2: f y'all, you didn't let me steal your shit. It

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Speaker 2: was really funny. It was dramatic.

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Speaker 1: So that was last night, and we were actually going

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Speaker 2: The food was best food ever, actually going.

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Speaker 1: That we've been there all these this time. The best

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Speaker 2: It's a two minute walk this evening.

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Speaker 1: But I said, I now know what it's like to

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Speaker 1: like there's a Starbucks on every single block in New York.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. I don't care what you It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: incredible on every single block. And a part of that

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Speaker 1: beauty is Basilica's as you like to say. But the churches,

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Speaker 1: but the churches here are unbelievable, But every single one, Robot,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're not a I would never characterize

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Speaker 1: you as a potty mouth ever. I'd never say she

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Speaker 1: curses like a sailor ever. But I have been shocked

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Speaker 2: Do I drop the F bomb?

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Speaker 1: You have cursed more than I have ever heard you.

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Speaker 2: Because that's so sad and amazing. It's embarrassing because I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, I wrote, and I told you and taking notes. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: But you walked into I think we went into one

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Speaker 1: this was the exact quote.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't even know what this is.

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Speaker 1: First we step into the church. Now these are the

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Speaker 1: Now that's a compliment, it is, but it's so I

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Speaker 1: actually cannot remember you being profane on this trip at all.

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Speaker 1: And except for the parts we the first moment we

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Speaker 1: step into a church, you say, holy fucking ship. Oh my,

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Speaker 1: it's something. So here's the deal. Like we know all

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Speaker 1: of the like obviously St. Peter's Basilica, you know the

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Speaker 1: every corner, every street there is a basilica. There is

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Speaker 1: this unbelievable, gorgeous church dedicated to Christ and God, all

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Speaker 2: isn't even on the map on the trip Advisor like

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Speaker 2: it is church I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: I have never in my life paid for a tour

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Speaker 2: It's architecturally, it's remarkable, and I actually felt spiritually moved.

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Speaker 2: Look I I have I have said I was raised Catholic.

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Speaker 2: I am no longer practicing, practicing Catholic, but my grandparents

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Speaker 2: felt compelled in this church we were in today, this basilica.

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Speaker 2: I just they have candles. Everyone whose Catholic knows you

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Speaker 1: I ended up ordering a second one and maybe they

438
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: were good.

439
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: They were good.

440
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: They were good. It was it was gin. It was

441
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: quantroe and lemon juice that happened together. It's called a

442
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: white Lady here in Italy, so if you come.

443
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: Here, consider it. It's better than an aperol spreads.

444
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: Apparently, let's not come up with the name of the

445
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: movie we were just watching on Netflix because we were

446
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: laughing so hilariously. No, no, no, let's not do that. But

447
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: there's so many movies about that are romanticized Rome Italy

448
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: and what is you come here?

449
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Is it?

450
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: Women? Right? You come here and you're finding yourself. You

451
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: own an adventure. Yes, n I did not know Eat

452
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: Pray Love. You've been talking to me about a lot

453
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: about it. I've never seen that the book. I've never

454
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: read the book.

455
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: But Elizabeth Gilbert, she's amazing.

456
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the thing. I know how much that

457
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: movie means to culturally, how much it has meant, and

458
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: a part of it is about women finding themselves or

459
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: or or you know, No, let me let you do that.

460
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was about to say the wrong thing.

461
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, I wasn't saying you were saying the wrong thing.

462
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: No, I know you weren't. But I'm saying what that

463
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: movie represents and that story represents.

464
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: For I can only I can only speak for myself

465
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: with Eat Pray Love and Elizabeth Gilbert. Like for me,

466
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: I just picked the book up in a airport and

467
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 2: I started reading it, and I felt immediately connected to it,

468
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: as I think so many women did.

469
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: Why why why? Why why?

470
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: Because she was admitting things that people don't admit, Like

471
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: we've talked about this about like Instagram perfection and my

472
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: life is great and oh you see me with my

473
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: husband and my beautiful child and my beautiful home and

474
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: everything's great, and oh you don't have that. That must

475
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: be hard for you. But when you hear from somebody

476
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: who seemingly has this beautiful life and is admitting that

477
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: it's not and it's not what she wants and it's

478
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: not what she and she's still searching, you feel like, okay,

479
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: you too, It's not just me. And so anyway, she

480
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: had that ability to connect with women.

481
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: Hey, that story. It brought her around the world, in

482
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: part here to Italy as well. Yes, but she found

483
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: love right at the end of that story.

484
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: At the end of that she did.

485
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: She found love. What a wonderful, freaking story. But that's

486
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: not why I love the story, because the story did

487
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: not end there now, and I had no idea until

488
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: we got here. And now, whoever this woman is, I

489
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: love her. I want to talk to her. I want

490
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: to be her friend, because it's life, it's reality, it's

491
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: what's happened. Please tell me. And there might be some

492
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: people who are listening right now who have no idea

493
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: how this story ended.

494
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: So Ibra love Elizabeth Gilbert, who is an amazing author

495
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: and a just a remarkable woman. She went on this

496
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: journey after she realized she was in a marriage she

497
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: didn't want to be in, and that was my impetus

498
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: for me to feel comfortable in saying I didn't want

499
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: to be in my marriage. So Elizabeth Gilbert was a

500
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: huge part of my life and reading that book changed

501
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: my life. And then reading about how she went to Italy,

502
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: she went to India, and then I believe she ended

503
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: up in Bali, and that is in the end of

504
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: the book. For any of you guys who have read this,

505
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: in any women, I know so many of you have

506
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: read this book. She finds what she thinks is the

507
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: love of her life and this Brazilian man they get

508
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: married at the end of the book, and it's beautiful

509
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: and it's amazing, and that's a great, beautiful love story.

510
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: But that is where story is supposed to end. We're

511
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: done to.

512
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: Your point, right, Yeah, that is the problem is too

513
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: often in TV, in books, in movies, the ends there.

514
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: You asked me today, you were like, what story what

515
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: movie do you all? As in Women Read or Love

516
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: or a doore that actually focuses on what happens after

517
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: you meet the supposed love of your life, what happens

518
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: after you meet your soulmate? There aren't that many rom

519
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 2: coms that do that, but I actually to Elizabeth Gilbert's story.

520
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: I just want to point out, because I've actually talked

521
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: about this a lot with you. She was in this

522
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: marriage with the Brazilian man she married, and long story short,

523
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: she realized once her best friend who she had been

524
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: best friends with for years and years and years.

525
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: It's so sorry to stop you there what but let's

526
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: be clear to everybody. They eat pray love story, you know,

527
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: and the guy she married, and everything worked out wonderfully

528
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: with at the end of that buttoned up story, what happened.

529
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: They got divorced. She ends up marrying her best friend,

530
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: who is a female, and she made that decision once

531
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 2: she realized her best friend was dying. And it's you know,

532
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: I encourage everyone to, Oh my god, Oprah's super soul

533
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: conversations with Elizabeth Gilbert talking about that relationship and talking

534
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: about the little bit of time she had left with her.

535
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: It was a beautiful, beautiful love story, but just there

536
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: were so many less and all of it. And I'm

537
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: just amazed by people's willingness, and I'm inspired by people's

538
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: willingness to be vulnerable, to expose Hey, here's what I

539
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: thought was right, Here's what I thought was my happy ending,

540
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: and actually here's what it ended up being.

541
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Okay that I have not that rich Eat Pray Love.

542
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: I have not seen Eat Pray Love the movie, but

543
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: it is my favorite book and my favorite movie right now.

544
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: And I say that because Sweeart, you know, our journeys

545
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: are lives. To think of a story that now so

546
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: many people find to be like the ultimate redemption story.

547
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: Love story didn't end the way you saw it end

548
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: because life just doesn't come in that kind of a package.

549
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: And I just I applaud. I have no idea, and

550
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: I asked you earlier about the author's name. Even I

551
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: love this woman and I love this story. I have

552
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: not I love it because it it's authentic and it's

553
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: how life goes something and.

554
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: It's where she was at that time, and she shared

555
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: it as it was happening, and it didn't end the

556
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: way she wanted it to end. It didn't end the

557
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: way people hoped it would end. And I think that's

558
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: kind of where the beauty lies. But it still can

559
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: be beautiful even though it wasn't what we all, including

560
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Gilbert, wanted it to be, and yet it still

561
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: ended the way it did, and there were beautiful moments

562
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: that happened, and there were so many lessons that were

563
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: learned along the way, and I think that is why

564
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: we're here. I've just always believed this through and I've

565
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: been forced to really re examine it through all of

566
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: this thing we called life. We have to learn how

567
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: to appreciate, and we have to learn when it's important

568
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: to learn, and we have to suspend expectations. And that's

569
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: so easy to say and so hard to do. And

570
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: we all expect things to be a certain way, but

571
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: when they don't go that way, that's how we learn

572
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: and grow.

573
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: Obviously, that's where I'm we're wed. You and I are

574
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: coming from that from our experience. But it's just it's

575
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: fascinating that a story that so many people find to

576
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: be this wonderful story with a beautiful button at the end,

577
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: actually took a twist. It's just how life is, and

578
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I love, love love. I had no

579
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: idea until this trip that that's how the story ended. Yeah,

580
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: and it may not be over necessarily. I don't know

581
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: where she is in her life and what's going on.

582
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: It just I I love that story now. I absolutely

583
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: love it.

584
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch the movie with you. Love boy,

585
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: you know you love rom coms.

586
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: Okay, never mind one. You and I have talked about

587
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: what we have seen on this trip oftentimes is certainly

588
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: with the heat here. There's just a lot of frustration

589
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: that comes with a lot of it. We've seen families.

590
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: I talked about it today, they walking, they're walking in

591
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: single file.

592
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was like, I don't want you near me,

593
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: so we'll just be single file.

594
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: We have literally seen families of five with the mom

595
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: in the front, the dadds.

596
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: Or in the back. A lot of times too.

597
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: You know you're right, has been the back. It's been

598
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: funny to watch. But Robot and I finally had our

599
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: moment of frustration, a moment of a heated moment. And

600
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: when I say heated, it was heated on her end.

601
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't even hot. But she snapped at me on

602
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: this vacation and it was we were just a couple

603
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: of days. We did pretty good.

604
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: I think we got nine days in.

605
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't that hard of a snapping at me, even

606
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: thank you. It wasn't no, no, no, And then snapped is

607
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: a that's a tough way to say it, but you did.

608
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: I was not that offended. I say that offended. Do

609
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: you see I was measured there. I wasn't that offended

610
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: by it. But it has been every single day we've

611
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: woken up here on our phone it says severe weather

612
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: alert because it's been that hot.

613
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's like like it's been excruciating. I

614
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: think would be a good way to put it.

615
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: And I went out today in a double breasded jacket.

616
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: I was amazed. But you did have sweat dripping down

617
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: your face in certain moments, and I was applauding. I

618
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: was like, damn, he still has that jacket on and

619
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: there is sweat dripping down his face. Committed to that

620
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: amazing committee. It was a good rose linen jagged. You

621
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: looked amazing. I was impressed. I could never have lost.

622
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: All the Italian men will walk around in full suits.

623
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: They were, why am I.

624
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: But it's today we were out or I'm not. It

625
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: wasn't yesterday, the day before.

626
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: It was a couple of days here, Lawrence, it was Laurence,

627
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: was Florence.

628
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: It was Florence, Okay, Florence. As trains trans translation trying

629
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: to get a car right. Yes, okay, so you it's

630
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: everybody struggling with an ober or whatever, but here it's

631
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: oftentimes you see couples together and there's one person staring

632
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: down at the phone trying to get directions, any other

633
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: person staring standing next to them, just looking around aimlessly

634
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: and wandering around.

635
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: My partner has it.

636
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Yes, So we get out and Robes is trying to

637
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: find the and she starts walking us the wrong direction, shocking,

638
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: complete opposite direction of where we should be. And we

639
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: get outside and again it's hundred degrees here. She's where

640
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: gets frustrated and I say, baby, let's make lemonade. Let's

641
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: figure this out. What do you need? And me offering

642
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: that suggestion was met with I will let you describe it.

643
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: I don't wait, I don't know what to say.

644
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: Remember this?

645
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: No, what did I say?

646
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god? You don't remember snapping?

647
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: No?

648
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Oh, never mind, let's skip this section of the podcast.

649
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: You remember, I don't remember.

650
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: This was the you don't remember.

651
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: This might be selective memory.

652
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: Man, Lets go. You finally snapped said I'm trying to

653
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: I got it, and you wouldn't let.

654
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: Me help you like me? That's sounds like me.

655
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: But you wouldn't let me help you. And at that

656
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: point I just stepped away. I didn't say after you

657
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: said that, I didn't say another word. That's probably you

658
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: don't remember.

659
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: This because that's selective memory, and because maybe you didn't react. No,

660
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

661
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: But in all of the time we've been here, and

662
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: we have seen a lot of fights, We've seen a

663
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: lot of barking and people and doing things. You and

664
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: I have not had a single issue except that moment.

665
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: It's so funny that I don't remember. I'm sorry.

666
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm dealing with, folks?

667
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

668
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: She doesn't even remember the time she heard I honestly

669
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: don't remember it. But she offends, the time that she hurts,

670
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: the time that she just crushes my soul. Wait, we.

671
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: Wh wow are.

672
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: You and this was not I can't blame this on alcohol.

673
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: You were not six at the time.

674
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: You were You didn't tell me you were gonna I

675
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: have no memory of that. I apologize.

676
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't apologize or something. You don't even remember doing

677
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: one spot we went to, and I guess a lot

678
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: of people will understand that Napoli Naples is a is

679
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: absolutely a wedding destination, and there's something about it. When

680
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 1: we got there, I got wrapped up. I got caught

681
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: up in Naples, and they were everywhere you look that

682
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: was get married here, or there was a shop that

683
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: you could buy a dress or tucks or it was.

684
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: It was a very very very very very low key Vegas.

685
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: It's a place where people fly into to go to

686
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: the Amalfi Coast, so positano a mally reveloo. There's a big, big, big,

687
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: big wedding destinations. So that makes a lot of sense.

688
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: Like you fly into Naples, you get all the wedding

689
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: stuff and then you either get married there and then

690
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: go on honeymoon on the Malfi coast. But it totally

691
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: makes sense that they've got a wedding destination situation.

692
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: Is that where you want to get married? Is that

693
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: where you've always wanted to get married? No, No, where

694
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: you want to get married.

695
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: I don't care where we get married. I actually don't.

696
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: I would the honeymoon. I will have a say in,

697
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 2: but I don't care where we get married.

698
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Then where's the honeymoon?

699
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: Need to be somewhere over water. I want one of

700
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: those huts over there.

701
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: Over water.

702
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be in one of those huts.

703
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: I've never done, like that hut over water thing.

704
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: You don't care where we get married, but you care

705
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: where honeymoon. Yeah, okay, but there was about thirty seconds ago.

706
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: Anybody listening will go, wow, this sounds like a foregone

707
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: conclusion that they're getting married.

708
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy not to think about the future

709
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: when you're with somebody who you love, like, of course

710
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: you want to. That's like a human experience to imagine

711
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: how you're going to spend the rest of your life. So, yes,

712
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: I think about it.

713
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: We are. It's it has been interesting, it has been fascinating,

714
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: and it's been a little difficult, to be honest with you.

715
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm not used to not talking to Sabine.

716
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

717
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: Our kids in New York are have been traveling the

718
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: whole time. We've been traveling to where you and I especially,

719
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: only playing trips around when the kids are going to.

720
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: Be otherwise occupied.

721
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Right, So your girls have been traveling around Europe the

722
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: whole time we have been here in Italy, and then

723
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: Sabine has been in uh A camp summer camp at

724
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: summer camp. So that has been actually, you know, that

725
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: more than anybody else. You know, you know, my relationship

726
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: is being better than anybody. So it's been really I

727
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: have not been able to speak to.

728
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: My child, but you've been sending her Amazon care packages

729
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: to day. I'm like, she's got to be either the

730
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 2: most beloved kidding camp because she's like the cool girl

731
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: who gets the package every day, or everyone's gonna hate

732
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: her for it because you're giving her care package every day.

733
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: It's a lot, might be a little bit too. Tell

734
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: me that baby.

735
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: How many wait?

736
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: How many have you sent her? A lot?

737
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: It's been a little bit like, maybe, why don't you

738
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: tell me it.

739
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 2: Was a lot too? At the most? What have you said?

740
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: But it's a three week camp?

741
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know that my girls run a three

742
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: week camp. I sent them like a care package a week,

743
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: so two they each.

744
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: Got a week. Oh yeah yeah.

745
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: And most people might just get one a camp.

746
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: She's getting three or four a week right now. Oh

747
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: that's bad. Okay.

748
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: The problem is you're also setting a precedent for what years?

749
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, my child, come on, okay, rolles you again.

750
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: You know better than anybody what my whole day from

751
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: the time I wake up and I go to bed

752
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: at night is.

753
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: Around subie, It's true.

754
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: What is she doing by seven thirty? Right? Where is

755
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: she going to walking to.

756
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: School to sabine or like, honestly, it's good, it's good,

757
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 4: it's you know what it is. This is exercise for preparents,

758
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: for kids to prepare for the ultimate separation.

759
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 2: And I know that sounds like a Debbie Downer moment,

760
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: but I say this as a woman who is about

761
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: to be a complete empty nester. So summer camp, if

762
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: you are so privileged to be able to afford it,

763
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: which is an amazing thing, is a I feel like

764
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: that helped me in a way prepare for my kids

765
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: to leave me. It's like you have to you have

766
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: to recognize that they are like your whole goal is

767
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: to make them amazing independent versions of yourself like they are.

768
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: So this is that's why they have strict rules of camp.

769
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: No phones, no text messaging. You have to be removed.

770
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: Your kid has to know and start to get used

771
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: to moments of life without you.

772
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: And that's but I imagine a moment in life where

773
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: you're not speaking to your child a week, two weeks,

774
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: and again, I just it's new, it's not again. So

775
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: being is a different monster with me. It's not a

776
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: we are constantly engaged day in day out, you know

777
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: that idea?

778
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: Anybody, Oh my god, Yes.

779
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: If I don't hear back from spe in fifteen minutes,

780
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: like oh my god, what's happening?

781
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: So is this this is a big This is a deal,

782
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: And I get that, and that is a that is

783
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: a big It's a struggle. Oh god, I know. I

784
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: am a few years ahead of you and I am

785
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: struggling with that in a different way. And I get it.

786
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: It's like a gradual, eventual thing that us as parents

787
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: all have to acknowledge. And I do think this is

788
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: something that I will bring back to my parents that

789
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: I love. They loved my brother and me, and they

790
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: talked about this with us in our podcast. But this

791
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: is another reason why investing in the person in the

792
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: relationship you're with you baby is so important. Husband's wives,

793
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: boyfriend's girlfriends. Your kids are so important and the number

794
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: one most important thing in your life. But they are

795
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: with you for about twenty years and that's awesome, and yes,

796
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: of course they're with you later in life. But like,

797
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: if you don't invest in the people who are there

798
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: with you, you know, investing in them. You just have

799
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 2: to balance that. Like I think people forget about how

800
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: important it is. Like I'm I'm with you now for

801
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: the next well as many years as I'm allowed.

802
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 5: But that's like I don't want to be there is

803
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 5: the headline, Go ahead, you want to write the headline. No,

804
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 5: but I just like every now together until.

805
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: As many years as I'm allowed as I'm allowed. Nice

806
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: for whatever reason it is, but I just think like

807
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: it's a it's a cool thing too to have these moments.

808
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: So I appreciate this vacation with you baby. We are

809
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: devoted to our daughters, obviously, but it's important to remember

810
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: each other.

811
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Why not. That's more. I didn't think anything more profound

812
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: could be said.

813
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: Oh wow, thank you for that acknowledgment and support. And

814
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 2: I just I feel heard and seen. Thank you.

815
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh look at my baby.

816
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: She's she looks like she's having a blast. We get pictures, Yes,

817
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: we're getting picture up there. We literally as we're recording this,

818
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: a update.

819
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: From Sabine's camp with an updated picture of her, and

820
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: put a smile on my face.

821
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: She looks happy.

822
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: She looks very very happy. So folks, we will see

823
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: you back in the states. We will be on the

824
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: ground in time to hear Trump speak.

825
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: Oh, we can't wait. We'll have a podcast us probably

826
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: acknowledging all of that.

827
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: All right, all right, appreciate you.

828
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Know.

829
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: You can always find us on our official show page

830
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: on Instagram at Amy and t J podcast Chow