Speaker 1: We're back.
Speaker 2: Can the Denver Nuggets have completed the sweep. They got
Speaker 2: their brooms out and swept the way the dusty old Lakers.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile the Celtics, I'm sorry, I felt like we
Speaker 1: were exposed a little bit. Okay, I'm not gonna lie here.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Celtics, they managed to avoid getting swept and
Speaker 2: forced the game five, which, by the time you're hearing
Speaker 2: this will be happening later today and we'll discuss the
Speaker 2: utter dominance of Yokich along with the healthy Jamal Murray,
Speaker 2: as well as the heat in Celtics and War with
Speaker 2: ESPN NBA reporter is He Gutierrez on today's episode, I'm.
Speaker 3: Miles Great and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is Miles
Speaker 3: Inties perfectly in sync as always for days Good.
Speaker 4: There's your indeed driving spinning.
Speaker 1: Curry, a three punter.
Speaker 4: Stop Curry from downtown again to.
Speaker 1: Be honest with ter, Look, shut time you go, y.
Speaker 3: Isy.
Speaker 4: What's going on? Man?
Speaker 1: How's it going guys? Oh or great?
Speaker 2: I'm whatever, like it's going great, It's fine.
Speaker 5: I mean you're so you're dropping a podcast called four
Speaker 5: years of Heat podcast at a time, like just perfectly
Speaker 5: in line, How did you get the NBA to script
Speaker 5: this so perfectly, like turning the Eastern Conference Finals into
Speaker 5: a piece of sponsored content for your podcast.
Speaker 6: I would say, whatever, whatever script writer is working here,
Speaker 6: like South Florida, you must have just visited.
Speaker 1: He or she must have just been.
Speaker 6: Florida, because like, we got a lot of good stuff
Speaker 6: going on down here, Like University of Miami made it
Speaker 6: to the final FA You, I mean, number one game
Speaker 6: away from playing each other for a national championship, which
Speaker 6: is crazy because you guys had no idea what FAU
Speaker 6: was before this year, right, and then you got the Panthers,
Speaker 6: of course, And so I don't know what kind of
Speaker 6: luck we got, because I never get this lucky. But yeah,
Speaker 6: just I started working on this podcast basically at the
Speaker 6: beginning of the year, thanks to iHeartRadio sort of reaching
Speaker 6: out and thinking of me for this possibility. And when
Speaker 6: I started working on it, the heat were wildly frustrating,
Speaker 6: this year's heat. What As I continued working on it,
Speaker 6: the heat were wildly frustrating. And as they got to
Speaker 6: even the player I got to the last couple of
Speaker 6: days of the regular season, we were actually wondering, if
Speaker 6: you know it might be a disaster, like the Heat
Speaker 6: might not even make the playoffs, and they'll be like, why.
Speaker 1: Are they releasing this thing in the middle of this postseason.
Speaker 6: But I mean, the reason we're releasing these because it's
Speaker 6: ten years from since that reyaln shot and that back
Speaker 6: to back championship, so it's an anniversary thing. It just
Speaker 6: so happens. The heater are making it really fortunate. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't know what kind of whatever juju, whatever mojo
Speaker 6: that Jimmy Butler's been carrying around. He didn't have it
Speaker 6: last but whatever he's been carrying around, But I thank
Speaker 6: him for it because this is just quite the perfect
Speaker 6: synergy for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it feels like even when they win,
Speaker 5: like in the the Milwaukee series, everyone made that series
Speaker 5: about Milwaukee collapsing. Now everyone wants to make it about
Speaker 5: Boston collapsing, and it's just like, no, we're witnessing the
Speaker 5: Heat do something we've never really seen before, which is
Speaker 5: I keep thinking of this of this moment in the
Speaker 5: trailer for the New Fast and the Furious movie when
Speaker 5: Jen Diesel manages.
Speaker 4: To like drive his car so hard that it like jumps.
Speaker 5: And like it's just like through sheer effort and tyranny
Speaker 5: of will, he's able to like drive a car harder
Speaker 5: and like.
Speaker 1: Sounds like it could be the trailer for any of them.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Let you know that I haven't seen a single one
Speaker 1: of them, yeah sorright, but.
Speaker 4: Like that's what it just feels like.
Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler was like, all right, I'm gonna be like
Speaker 5: extra good at I'm just gonna like concentrate real hard
Speaker 5: and like make threes now instead of missing them.
Speaker 4: And well, I.
Speaker 6: Mean that's people just when people don't understand what they're
Speaker 6: looking at, they just kind of go play the hits
Speaker 6: and if you if you know more about the other
Speaker 6: team and just talk about the other team. And I
Speaker 6: think the fact that Miami is doing this without people
Speaker 6: being able to explain it is a testament to I
Speaker 6: think Spolstra primarily because you know, I don't think this
Speaker 6: team doesn't take the regular season seriously. I just think
Speaker 6: Eric Spolstra, I mean, he certainly does, but I think
Speaker 6: he also is working through a lot of things during
Speaker 6: the regular season. He's working out what the best like
Speaker 6: any team, any good coach would be. You know, you're
Speaker 6: not going to see what works in week one and
Speaker 6: stick with that the entire season, right, So he is,
Speaker 6: you know, working through some stuff. And when he says
Speaker 6: in the postseason like we were pretty close all season long,
Speaker 6: I don't think he's lying, even though the results say differently,
Speaker 6: and you know, watching them play say different says differently.
Speaker 6: But I don't think he's lying because I don't think
Speaker 6: this is a team that just keeps banging its head
Speaker 6: against the wall if it knows for a fact that
Speaker 6: it's not going to work. And so they were close,
Speaker 6: and you know, when you get to the postseason, when
Speaker 6: you're preparing for the same team over and over again
Speaker 6: and not you know, three teams and four nights, then
Speaker 6: you can really focus on a lot more things. And
Speaker 6: that's where this team becomes great. It's those small details.
Speaker 6: That just did an ESPN Daily podcast with Kirk Goldsberry
Speaker 6: who wrote a story about like what those finer details
Speaker 6: of like heat culture or whatever, what they actually translate
Speaker 6: to on the court. And it's like in the postseasons,
Speaker 6: you know, taking charges, it's deflections, it's loose balls recovered,
Speaker 6: it's screen assists, and you know, the heat lead the
Speaker 6: league and all of those by far in the postseason
Speaker 6: and so they just they make everything so much more
Speaker 6: difficult for another team that maybe thinks, especially this year
Speaker 6: because they're an eight seed, maybe thinks, eh, we're going
Speaker 6: to get the regular season version of this team, and
Speaker 6: they can get anything close to it.
Speaker 1: Now, Jimmy Butler, that one's different.
Speaker 6: That one's crazy because this dude doesn't not only not
Speaker 6: make these shots in the regular season, he doesn't take
Speaker 6: them right, take those twenty foot step backs. He doesn't
Speaker 6: take the threes even if they leave them open, unless
Speaker 6: Dayne Wade's in the building, then he'll do anything do
Speaker 6: it'll go crazy.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't even.
Speaker 6: Take in fact, like I get so annoyed watching him
Speaker 6: a lot of times during the regular season because he
Speaker 6: passes up shots and I'm not talking like deep shots.
Speaker 6: I'm talking like by the rim, Like he'll fly by
Speaker 6: the rim, his head'll be by the rim and he's
Speaker 6: just looking the other way for a pass, and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Dude, what are you doing.
Speaker 6: I guess the same guy who you know does the
Speaker 6: reverse jams, you know, on a dead ball just to
Speaker 6: show off his athleticism, probably doesn't realize sometimes that he
Speaker 6: could actually that he's actually at the rim and isn't
Speaker 6: going to get blocked.
Speaker 1: But I don't even think that's the case.
Speaker 6: I think he's just kind of again consuming the game
Speaker 6: and just learning everything around him and recognizing that every
Speaker 6: possession in the regular season is not the end of
Speaker 6: the world. And if I don't score this bucket, if
Speaker 6: I don't see that bucket or that available shot, then
Speaker 6: no big deal.
Speaker 1: I'll see it in the postseason.
Speaker 6: And so I think that is a guy who just
Speaker 6: knows himself and is super confident in his abilities and
Speaker 6: then have to show it off all the time or
Speaker 6: talk about it, right unless it's the postseason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's what I identified in him as similar,
Speaker 5: just like supremely confident person who doesn't have to show
Speaker 5: it off or talk about it, like I just identified
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 4: So I saw it coming a mile away. But do
Speaker 4: you want to just brag last episode? Yeah we were
Speaker 4: for Game one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I picked the Heat in the series. I said that,
Speaker 5: like just based on what we've watched up to this
Speaker 5: point in the playoffs, like both from the Heat and
Speaker 5: from the Celtics kind of just being confusing and like
Speaker 5: at having some of the highest highs when the shot
Speaker 5: is falling and as we saw it in you know,
Speaker 5: Game four.
Speaker 4: They can still turn it on, but just.
Speaker 5: A lot of variability and a lot of like just
Speaker 5: weird kind of lapses. But I don't know, as somebody
Speaker 5: who really follows the Heat is here, you were you surprised,
Speaker 5: like by what you've seen in this series.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, it's funny you mentioned the prediction
Speaker 6: in the preseason. I said to myself, you know what,
Speaker 6: stop being a coward. Pick the team that you want
Speaker 6: to win versus the team that you'll think who's gonna
Speaker 6: get there? And I said, the Heat's going to beat
Speaker 6: the Denver Nuggets, and it's on ESPN dot com if
Speaker 6: you go through the arc pat. But in the postseason,
Speaker 6: having not even remembered that I picked a preseason champion
Speaker 6: because it's kind of a weird deal to pick up
Speaker 6: both like a finalist from each conference in the preseason
Speaker 6: and whatever, you're never gonna be right. So I totally
Speaker 6: forgot that I made that prediction and went on to
Speaker 6: pick against.
Speaker 1: The Heat twice in.
Speaker 6: This postseason, first against the Bucks and then against Celtics.
Speaker 6: I picked Celtics in seven, i think, and then I
Speaker 6: picked Lakers over the Nuggets because I let Bill Plashki
Speaker 6: talk me into Lebron and Nadi aren't gonna lose to
Speaker 6: anybody this postseason. So I switched that from Denver and
Speaker 6: seven to Lakers and seven. So I've been all wrong,
Speaker 6: but you know, I'm gonna hang on to that preseason
Speaker 6: prediction if that's your ends up happening.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: The Celtics stuff is confusing to me because like it
Speaker 6: always felt like this team was being held together, like
Speaker 6: by scotch tape. Like they didn't seem to get along.
Speaker 6: They didn't seem to have a great relationship, even back
Speaker 6: with Brad Stevens. Necessarily, it just felt very much like
Speaker 6: principal and student relationships.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It wasn't really like a tight bond. I didn't feel like,
Speaker 6: you know, Jason or Jalen, they're both quiet, they don't
Speaker 6: really not really vocal leaders. And then when you hear
Speaker 6: things kind of spill out, like hey, we got to
Speaker 6: pass the ball, or you know, people not being very
Speaker 6: happy with the way other people are playing without naming names,
Speaker 6: it feels like that has to be really bad for
Speaker 6: it to get out from this team.
Speaker 1: And so I felt like maybe things were really bad
Speaker 1: back then.
Speaker 6: But Emay just kind of fixed things in the middle
Speaker 6: of the season, and all of a sudden, the winning,
Speaker 6: you know, cured all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this season, you get pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 6: They start off with the one seed for for a
Speaker 6: good amount of time, kind of trickled down at the
Speaker 6: end and dropped to the two, but not really any issues.
Speaker 1: To say that they have to address.
Speaker 6: They're all kind of like huddling up and making sure
Speaker 6: Missoula is going to be good all year. But they're
Speaker 6: good enough to where they don't have to face their
Speaker 6: little their major issues all season long. So you get
Speaker 6: to the postseason and those cracks start to show, Now,
Speaker 6: what do you do like they haven't?
Speaker 1: Who do you turn to? Like, what is the rallying point?
Speaker 6: Like May I think was very effective last year when
Speaker 6: things went south. Who knows, We didn't know how Joe
Speaker 6: was going to handle that. And Joe being thirty four,
Speaker 6: I don't think helps him. You know, it's nothing against him,
Speaker 6: he can't do I think about his age, but I
Speaker 6: don't think that helps him. And all those other warts
Speaker 6: and all those things about those guys maybe not really
Speaker 6: loving each other. And I think there was a story
Speaker 6: of Source saying that this team has been fake liking
Speaker 6: each other for for a long time now, sure that
Speaker 6: that kind of show when you're around them even further
Speaker 6: short period of time. And I even think a guy
Speaker 6: like Grant Williams is a great example, because I think
Speaker 6: he's what they all want to be like in terms
Speaker 6: of toughness and vocal and you know, versatile. Just do
Speaker 6: whatever you need me to do, I'll do it, and
Speaker 6: regardless of my playing time, I'm going to do it
Speaker 6: really hard. Yeah, but they're not and so and what
Speaker 6: he does it it's not necessarily contagious. Maybe Marcus Smart
Speaker 6: does it as well, but it's not necessarily contagious. So
Speaker 6: it just felt like this team was sort of working
Speaker 6: under like the possibility, like almost like a timer, like
Speaker 6: at any second it could just implode. And it felt
Speaker 6: like it almost imploded or exploded, whichever one you want.
Speaker 6: After Game three, they just happened to hit enough shots
Speaker 6: in that third quarter to remind themselves of who they
Speaker 6: were and now they don't feel so terrible. But if
Speaker 6: they lose this series, there's going to be I think
Speaker 6: a significant fallout from this team. I think if they
Speaker 6: lose this series, their peak as a core will have
Speaker 6: been last year's finals.
Speaker 2: In game four, like just looking at kind of you know,
Speaker 2: their fortunes changing a bit. Do you think that it's
Speaker 2: more like, you know, adjustments on Miszula's part, or more
Speaker 2: that they like they found.
Speaker 1: Their ability to shoot the three?
Speaker 2: And you know, how are you seeing just sort of
Speaker 2: that game for because I think for most people, I
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, so we're everybody's getting swept down.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I honestly if you look at NHL too, it looked
Speaker 6: like it was gonna be four sweeps all in the
Speaker 6: conference finals. But you know, Boston came through. I just
Speaker 6: think it was a couple of things, Like I think
Speaker 6: it's a little bit of human nature with the heat.
Speaker 6: They haven't had this level of sustained success all season.
Speaker 6: They hadn't won five games in a row all season,
Speaker 6: and so you know, not that they sort of got comfortable,
Speaker 6: but a some of those shots were just not going
Speaker 6: to fall. B You know, the Celtic's gonna play a
Speaker 6: little bit harder, defense, would get a little bit more aggressive,
Speaker 6: and if you're not getting the sort of other worldly
Speaker 6: game from Jimmy Butler, you can't make up for all
Speaker 6: that other stuff. And it's just going to look like
Speaker 6: another regular season game from them, and you know this
Speaker 6: is Celtics chuse that third quarter and just kind of
Speaker 6: went off. I think what you're afraid of if you're
Speaker 6: Miami is I mean, I hate to say this because
Speaker 6: it sounds insulting. He's humbly one of the best basketball
Speaker 6: players in the world, but Jason Tatum kind of a
Speaker 6: front runner of a score, like he needs sort of
Speaker 6: somebody else to sort of tip the scales for him,
Speaker 6: or maybe just one or two shots to go in
Speaker 6: and then he can sort of get comfortable and really
Speaker 6: take over.
Speaker 1: Right after that, you know, second.
Speaker 6: Half that he had that game that he had in
Speaker 6: what he feels like was you know, a probably a
Speaker 6: bounce back. I think he's probably going to, potentially, especially
Speaker 6: at home, get into a rhythm, like you do not
Speaker 6: want to let him hit his first three. If you
Speaker 6: let him hit one or two of his first shots,
Speaker 6: he might be going for fifty against you. And so
Speaker 6: if I'm Miami, like, I've got to change my game
Speaker 6: plan a little bit more aggressively towards stopping Jason Tatum,
Speaker 6: especially when you saw like I don't know if Jaalen
Speaker 6: Brown's fingers.
Speaker 1: Are busted, but it doesn't seem like you can shoot
Speaker 1: right now. Right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we talk about the myth of having figured it out,
Speaker 5: and then the thing that happened in the last like
Speaker 5: game that you saw is how things are going to
Speaker 5: keep happening. And I think I was a little bit
Speaker 5: susceptible to that after that game four, I was like,
Speaker 5: you know, if any team's coming back from three to
Speaker 5: zero down, that it would be it would be a
Speaker 5: one or a two seed versus an eight seed that
Speaker 5: is has high like three point shooting variability and like
Speaker 5: suddenly just gets hot like that. That makes sense to me.
Speaker 5: But I also think that with somebody who is a
Speaker 5: streaky shooter, like when that is your best player, the
Speaker 5: person that you least want them going against in a
Speaker 5: series would probably be Jimmy Butler because I feel like
Speaker 5: he will find a way to get inside your head
Speaker 5: and you know, would win that battle.
Speaker 6: Well, Jimmy'll just get inside his own head. And that's what, like,
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure on his phone probably just a loop
Speaker 6: of Grant Williams blocking him, yeah, right, or you know,
Speaker 6: it wasn't his game, But he doesn't seem in the
Speaker 6: slightest concern that he's got to go to Boston, like
Speaker 6: and when it he's done it. He's done it twice
Speaker 6: this postseason. He did it in the regular season after
Speaker 6: coming off of an injury and telling everybody I'm coming Boston,
Speaker 6: and so I don't doubt that that's going to be
Speaker 6: there at least one more time in these three games.
Speaker 6: I'm pretty much predicting it's going to happen in this
Speaker 6: game five. But you're still going to get at least
Speaker 6: one more like Gabe Vincent explosion. You know, you're probably
Speaker 6: gonna get a five to three point game from Max Streuce.
Speaker 6: It's just too many, like you mentioned the variables, like
Speaker 6: there are too many heat variables now in this postseason
Speaker 6: where there you just can't predict another three Boston Celtics wins,
Speaker 6: Like yeah, it could have Kevin Love hit four threes
Speaker 6: in a quarter all of a sudden, You're just like, geez,
Speaker 6: what am I gonna do? Like that just happens to
Speaker 6: be if they're playing well, especially a guy like Cody Martin,
Speaker 6: who now looks like the third best player you know
Speaker 6: in the series.
Speaker 1: He could, you know, go either way.
Speaker 6: And so I'm with you, like you just don't can't
Speaker 6: really predict, but I think based on this postseason, one
Speaker 6: of those is going to happen. And what we have
Speaker 6: seen is that Boston not good at home in the
Speaker 6: postseason and probably a little shaky in some post contests.
Speaker 1: So it's just shot well.
Speaker 2: Luckily for the heat, Game five is in Boston, so
Speaker 2: that that'll hold everybody.
Speaker 6: Man, I think Lebron broke that place because in twenty
Speaker 6: twelve when he went in, because I remember, man.
Speaker 1: That place used to be tough to play.
Speaker 6: Now, like look at the numbers, like these people are
Speaker 6: just going in and just saying, hey, it's just another
Speaker 6: place and we can go in and win, even in
Speaker 6: the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I feel like there's something with how talented
Speaker 5: this team is and the expectations they go into every
Speaker 5: season in playoffs with, like when they start performing poorly
Speaker 5: and it's not entirely clear why. You can just like
Speaker 5: kind of hear the pain, collective pain in the crowd,
Speaker 5: and then that has to be sensed by the players,
Speaker 5: Like that has to hurt a little bit.
Speaker 6: You remember in like in that game six and twenty twelve,
Speaker 6: like the crowd after the game was over, they knew
Speaker 6: it was over, like they just started chanting for the
Speaker 6: Celtics to, you know, trying to give them that momentum
Speaker 6: going into Game seven. Now they don't even try that.
Speaker 6: They're just like, ah, whatever, you see this movie a
Speaker 6: million times?
Speaker 1: Right, right? All right, let's.
Speaker 2: Take a break real quick, and then we'll come back
Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about the Western Conference before
Speaker 2: talking about a potential finals matchup right after this, and
Speaker 2: we're back.
Speaker 1: I got to talk about the Western Conference finals, Miles.
Speaker 5: I will not let you make the same mistake I
Speaker 5: was just talking about. And look at the Lakers loss
Speaker 5: as a Lakers loss as much as it was a
Speaker 5: buzz saw running into a team that I think again, like,
Speaker 5: let's focus on who's winning and like what they're doing
Speaker 5: and how incredible it is.
Speaker 4: I feel like the Nuggets are playing.
Speaker 5: This might be recency biased, but I feel like they're
Speaker 5: playing as well as we've seen a team play in
Speaker 5: the last five years.
Speaker 4: Like they are Wow.
Speaker 5: I mean, the shot making is incredible, Like I don't know,
Speaker 5: the passing. I'm kind of blown away by the Nuggets.
Speaker 6: So is your five years in your head? Does that
Speaker 6: include the last Kevin Durant year in Golden State?
Speaker 4: I think it.
Speaker 1: Since then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was thinking it was like since the KD
Speaker 5: in Golden State, this is the best, the highest level
Speaker 5: we've seen a team play at and the Heat might
Speaker 5: go in and win in five.
Speaker 1: But uh, well we're gonna get to that later.
Speaker 6: Preview there, because I mean we already talked about how
Speaker 6: there's no chance for Boston, right, I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 6: saying that, so that well, historically I mean been being
Speaker 6: able to have enough options to make fun of me with.
Speaker 6: But man, I haven't really thought about that because like hmm,
Speaker 6: I mean it's.
Speaker 4: Really well, they got to win the chip first.
Speaker 6: They do, and then so I wonder, like I think
Speaker 6: of like the Bucks when when Giannie is rolling through
Speaker 6: the playoffs, like, yeah, I guess it wasn't the team
Speaker 6: playing that well, it was more Yannis kind of carrying them.
Speaker 1: No, it has been. It has been pretty darn good.
Speaker 6: Like it's funny how much better just keeps getting Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you think he's been the same player, but he just
Speaker 6: every single year.
Speaker 2: And I'm like for for all, Like you know, you
Speaker 2: see fans like take shots like his physical appearance or whatever,
Speaker 2: and like this guy, really the Lakers gonna do that
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you watching him play like?
Speaker 1: He and I say, we say this all the time
Speaker 1: about Joker.
Speaker 2: He plays uncle ball like it feels like you're playing
Speaker 2: with your uncle in the driveway, who doesn't have to
Speaker 2: try to embarrass you. He's like, oh you thought, oh
Speaker 2: behind my head, aha, dish it off over here. Oh
Speaker 2: you're trying to guard this. Watch me throw it over
Speaker 2: my head from like fifty feet away. It's just there's
Speaker 2: like an inevitability about it too, that even as a
Speaker 2: Laker fan, I was resigned to the fact that I'm like,
Speaker 2: up Jamal and I'm like, that's a three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then there it is. Uh.
Speaker 2: It just felt like I could even as much as
Speaker 2: confident or as much positivity or optimism I held as
Speaker 2: a fan, even as a Laker fan, there was just
Speaker 2: something that was so objectively clear to me watching it
Speaker 2: was like, oh, no, we we don't play like this.
Speaker 1: This is like, this is championship material.
Speaker 2: And I'm as much as I felt good about, you know,
Speaker 2: taking down the previous champion, it just it's just night
Speaker 2: and day. There's just such a golf and quality at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you, because I'm not that weird talking
Speaker 6: about the Lakers. We're still technically talking about the winning team,
Speaker 6: but I wanted to ask you what how you thought
Speaker 6: Anthony Davis defended Jokis Because I mean, obviously they went
Speaker 6: to t Hachimura there for a long time and had
Speaker 6: Anthony Davis helping some. But I think in terms of
Speaker 6: one on one, it's never gonna matter who's actually defending him, right.
Speaker 1: If you don't actually give help. Yeah, it did feel
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Uh, And I there are times where I felt it
Speaker 2: was definitely lacking, But again, I think it was just
Speaker 2: beyond all that because prior to that, Ad has been
Speaker 2: one of the most dominant defensive players. Like watching this
Speaker 2: playoff front, I was like wow. In my mind, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay, I like this going like now
Speaker 2: we have something, But the reality smacked me right in
Speaker 2: my face and it was like, it turns out it
Speaker 2: was not enough.
Speaker 5: It would have worked well if he wasn't one of
Speaker 5: the best passers we've seen in the history of the game,
Speaker 5: and with a bunch of shooters on his team, then
Speaker 5: it right.
Speaker 6: I was just say, Aaron Gordon's your worst shooter, and
Speaker 6: I don't know's you're not going to give the Draymond treatment,
Speaker 6: like you're not gonna leave him in the corner because
Speaker 6: he's going to hit one added tude of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And we learned the.
Speaker 5: Two times when yo Kic, like he didn't win the
Speaker 5: the series by hitting threes, but the side arm three
Speaker 5: he hit over a d where he just like kind
Speaker 5: of cranked it from the side and it was nothing
Speaker 5: but net. And then like that running backwards one foot three.
Speaker 5: That was was that game three or four?
Speaker 1: I forget.
Speaker 5: Absolute dagger And then he pulled a coin out from behind.
Speaker 4: A d's ear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly that was.
Speaker 2: He made him animal, Yeah, made animal, like what birthday
Speaker 2: son shot clock at four?
Speaker 6: Yoka has to put it up, pulling away, puts it up,
Speaker 6: knocks downs.
Speaker 1: Was on the line of water shut.
Speaker 6: So the answer is essentially, you've got to outscore them,
Speaker 6: right like it. If you're not going to have if
Speaker 6: they're going to be surrounded, surrounding Yokic with shooters and
Speaker 6: just playmakers like Bruce Brown's a good playmaker obviously Murray,
Speaker 6: then you're going to have to outscore them. And in
Speaker 6: doing that, you're probably gonna have to try to tire
Speaker 6: Jokic or the whole team right and to make sloppy mistakes.
Speaker 6: And this is where I see potential. And I don't
Speaker 6: know if we want to get into a potential matchup
Speaker 6: with Miami. So if we want to keep talking about
Speaker 6: these these Nuggets, because.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've made our point. The Nuggets
Speaker 2: are the team to talk. Although again, I know many
Speaker 2: people love to they love to see the vanquished Lakers,
Speaker 2: which I get that's just the the culture of the
Speaker 2: NBA fandom and stuff like that. But yeah, we can
Speaker 2: all agree that they were fantastic and that's they They
Speaker 2: deserve their flowers.
Speaker 6: And you don't want to talk about the possibility of
Speaker 6: Lebron retiring right Like, you're just we're just going to
Speaker 6: skip right past that.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me personally, I look, I like, I
Speaker 2: like the takes I've seen on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Why don't you go to usc Man he'll play with
Speaker 1: Ron either for a year?
Speaker 4: Four years of eligibility.
Speaker 1: I mean's what is he made?
Speaker 6: Like two three hundred million in image, image and likeness
Speaker 6: so far right right right?
Speaker 2: But no, I mean I think when I saw that,
Speaker 2: I was like, no way, Like, surely that can't be.
Speaker 2: But at times, I like I've said to Jack and
Speaker 2: like Jabari, like on our tech starts watching the game,
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's looking hurt. He's looking like human, which is,
Speaker 2: you know, something we're not used to seeing. So that's
Speaker 2: definitely jarring. And maybe I'm avoiding it because like I
Speaker 2: just didn't want to accept seeing that. But I mean,
Speaker 2: he's he's he's come this far. But yeah, however he
Speaker 2: wants to end it, He's gonna end it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean he says in one breath that he's like
Speaker 6: still ninety five or top ninety fifth percentile or whatever.
Speaker 6: That phrasing is better than ninety five percent of the
Speaker 6: players in the league. And then you know, says, maybe
Speaker 6: I want to retire to that guard. He's gonna have
Speaker 6: the most elaborate farewell tour ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he's gonna have everything announced ever. He will
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, he will not go quiet into that
Speaker 1: good night of retirement. We definitely know that.
Speaker 6: The one thing I will say about the Nuggets though,
Speaker 6: in terms of I don't think they can really beat themselves,
Speaker 6: but do you think Jamal Murray can still have one
Speaker 6: or two of those like shooting them out of a
Speaker 6: game type of situations, because he does seem to always
Speaker 6: want to shoot his way out of a slum rather.
Speaker 1: Than just you know, let somebody else get a couple
Speaker 1: of looks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, they are to a lesser degree
Speaker 5: than the Celtics.
Speaker 4: They are pretty three point dependent.
Speaker 5: At least he is as a as a scorer, so
Speaker 5: I mean if he if he's off, and he is
Speaker 5: a streaky player, but it just yeah, all right, first
Speaker 5: crack of doubt in the Nuggets.
Speaker 4: I'm starting to see it.
Speaker 5: The only issue is that you're playing half the games
Speaker 5: in Denver, and so the idea of gassing them like no, right,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna be guessed.
Speaker 6: I would say, like, I maybe I didn't watch as
Speaker 6: closely as I thought I was watching, but like I
Speaker 6: feel like you can work yo Kicchen the pick and
Speaker 6: rolls a lot more like I think you can force
Speaker 6: a lot of him defending, and like, look, Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 6: and I've been wondering why he does this because it
Speaker 6: drives me nuts, Like thinking back even to last season
Speaker 6: or whenever they play the Sixers, he'll be, you know,
Speaker 6: switched on to Joel and Beatle switch on to him,
Speaker 6: and that's the dude.
Speaker 1: He decides to attack him like why why are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the biggest Robert Williams yesterday, But he's been.
Speaker 6: Doing that to Robert Williams the whole series, and I'm
Speaker 6: wondering why.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that he's looking ahead clearly.
Speaker 6: But if I look ahead, I'm like, if that dude's
Speaker 6: taking Robert Williams whenever he wants, not whenever he wants,
Speaker 6: but on occasion, he's gonna hunt Yokic down every time
Speaker 6: and make it. Now if if that's the nugget, if
Speaker 6: the Nuggets want to just you know, hedge and recover
Speaker 6: do whatever else, then that might be a nightmare for
Speaker 6: them too, because Jokic doesn't really have great foot speed.
Speaker 6: I think they can be gotten with execution, like offensive execution.
Speaker 6: And that's why I thought Lebron, because he had a
Speaker 6: d as that weapon, would be able to out execute them.
Speaker 6: It's just, you know, they just Nuggets had too much firepower.
Speaker 6: I do think that Miami, with a lot of these
Speaker 6: things that they do, the deflections, it's not going to
Speaker 6: make all these passes is simple, you know, the charges
Speaker 6: that you know, these driving kicks, you know, you might
Speaker 6: just run into Kyle Lowry and there goes that possession.
Speaker 6: So I think they can be bothered enough because again,
Speaker 6: looking at that Lakers.
Speaker 1: Team, what was that roster? By the end?
Speaker 6: Was it all the like the defensive was it? Vanderbilt
Speaker 6: wasn't playing right, I mean, unless you're saying Hachi Mura
Speaker 6: is like that crazy defensive difference maker. Like I mean,
Speaker 6: by the end, you're playing D'Angelo Russell, Lonnie Walker, and
Speaker 6: Tristan Thompson off your bench. So I don't know if
Speaker 6: that was the same caliber of defensive team that the
Speaker 6: Heat's giving you right now in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So and that's even with Anthony Davis.
Speaker 6: So I mean, I think I think there's a lot
Speaker 6: to be sort of gained from a coaching advantage. No
Speaker 6: offense to Michael Malone, but a coaching advantage and a
Speaker 6: sort of toughness and effort advantage because like, no offense,
Speaker 6: but MPG isn't you know, giving you all the feisty
Speaker 6: defensive effort, like unless he's hitting eight threes in a row.
Speaker 1: So I think the.
Speaker 6: Heat would still have something that Denver hasn't really seen yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's got something that everybody hasn't really seen.
Speaker 5: Is what we're learning. Man, somebody is getting rich off
Speaker 5: of betting on the heat. Somebody saw this coming into
Speaker 5: the playoffs and if I was, it.
Speaker 6: Better, like I would just do that to all my
Speaker 6: preseason predictions.
Speaker 1: I'll imagine where I'd be. Yeah, yeah, big swings. Yeah
Speaker 1: I was praying, but still right right.
Speaker 5: I mean, both teams kind of feel like teams of
Speaker 5: inevitability at this point, which is what makes for a
Speaker 5: good finals, like Miami just being able to turn it
Speaker 5: up when they want. Denver has just looked like the
Speaker 5: best team all season, and then the playoffs came around
Speaker 5: and they looked better with each round. I feel like,
Speaker 5: so that makes for an amazing finals. I'm super excited
Speaker 5: to see. I don't have a feel about the one
Speaker 5: I didn't have a feel about.
Speaker 4: I might just have.
Speaker 5: Denver blindness because I didn't have a feel about Denver Lakers.
Speaker 5: I had a feel about Miami Celtics. I don't really
Speaker 5: have a feel about Miami Denver at this point.
Speaker 1: I've seen it.
Speaker 6: I've seen Miami Denver in the regular season and it was.
Speaker 1: Pretty much Denver.
Speaker 6: It's ugly for Miami, and but you know, after these
Speaker 6: three rounds, it's like you throw all that out the window. Anyway,
Speaker 6: because you know, how seriously did they really take preparation
Speaker 6: for that one game?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, it's unstoppable for us versus immovable object,
Speaker 2: which is always always a good, good battle for any sports.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Also, it does feel like playoff experience and having been
Speaker 5: there has been advantageous recently. So I feel like that
Speaker 5: that gives Miami a bit of an advantage.
Speaker 6: Well, guy that never really gets talked about but means
Speaker 6: so much is Bam out of bioh like him going
Speaker 6: from you know Deepoi what second place Brook Lopez second
Speaker 6: or third and having to figure out a way and
Speaker 6: then you know Mitchell Robinson who dominated the calves big men,
Speaker 6: he'd had to find a way to make sure that
Speaker 6: he didn't you know, do too much while again still
Speaker 6: doing everything on the defensive end of the floor, switching
Speaker 6: on the perimeter, rebounding, et cetera. He picked up the
Speaker 6: rebounding game, I think the Clint Capella game in the
Speaker 6: play and embarrassed him a little bit. And he just
Speaker 6: is rebounding has gotten significantly better. And I wish I
Speaker 6: was saying this before Game four because he kind of,
Speaker 6: you know, didn't perform as well in Game four but
Speaker 6: he seemed to have figured out, you know, let me
Speaker 6: put the all in effort and I'm not going to
Speaker 6: concern myself too much with everybody telling me I need
Speaker 6: to score. Of course I'm gonna try, but it's not
Speaker 6: going to be my primary focus. And it seems to
Speaker 6: have working well for him. And then you just got
Speaker 6: to picture him and you think, all right, he's doing
Speaker 6: it way better than he was last year against the Celtics,
Speaker 6: and and you know those two guys are still there,
Speaker 6: Horford and Williams.
Speaker 1: And then he doesn't get a break.
Speaker 6: He's gonna get yo kids in the next round and
Speaker 6: be completely helpless when he's one on one in the post.
Speaker 6: And it's not even gonna be an option. Really, it's
Speaker 6: for him to stay one on one. And so I
Speaker 6: don't it's it's a nightmare for him. Like, I have
Speaker 6: no idea how he is going to last through, you know,
Speaker 6: however many games playing heavy minutes, because I think he's
Speaker 6: just going to be exhausted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gas, And I mean that's well.
Speaker 1: Announced this right there. He's going to be tired.
Speaker 5: I mean when I'm watching these guys, I'm like they're
Speaker 5: running up and down the floor, so much.
Speaker 1: They're not tired.
Speaker 4: They're not tired. That's my that's my take. I mean
Speaker 4: the other like the Heat have really used the zone.
Speaker 5: Well uh, and I feel like the Nuggets feel zone proof.
Speaker 5: But then again, I mean the Celtics seemed like they
Speaker 5: should have been zone proof a little bit.
Speaker 6: I didn't go back and watch those games, and I'm
Speaker 6: pretty sure I remember the Heat working. They're trying that
Speaker 6: zone against Jokic and it not.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's hard because he's like algorithmically always making
Speaker 2: the right decision with the ball.
Speaker 6: And everybody around him already naturally cuts and plays off
Speaker 6: of him because they've been doing it since, you know,
Speaker 6: since they played with him, and so doing it against
Speaker 6: his own is easier. You've got stationary people there, so
Speaker 6: for the most part. Yeah, oh, it's like practice cones.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, all right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back and is he's going to be in
Speaker 2: the hot seat for the rapid fire round of questions
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 4: And we're back busy.
Speaker 5: I know you've been on TV, you've done so many podcasts,
Speaker 5: so much media. This what you're about to experience is
Speaker 5: actually the fastest segment in media.
Speaker 4: History, any format.
Speaker 1: Even ones that have not been created yet.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, but here toofore and so forth. If
Speaker 5: you had a hat on your head, it would be
Speaker 5: spinning around.
Speaker 4: Uh that's how fast this is.
Speaker 5: So Miles and I are going to be throwing questions
Speaker 5: at you.
Speaker 4: Your job is to just give us your answer.
Speaker 5: Quep us on track, because we're not as fast as
Speaker 5: the segment is sometimes.
Speaker 2: So if we start dragging on with our answers like
Speaker 2: you got the media professionalism, be like, hey, guys, come on,
Speaker 2: keep this going.
Speaker 1: This this is the rapid fire round of question.
Speaker 6: You're wildly unprofessional, both participant and the referee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, That's what makes this so unique. So again,
Speaker 2: hit you with the question, chest, pass it right back.
Speaker 2: Quick responses, no thinking you ready?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I thought too much. Yes, I'm ready. There
Speaker 1: we go, Bryan start the clock. Okay, Jack, are you
Speaker 1: gonna go first?
Speaker 4: Or oh I'd love for you to go first? Miles?
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: Is he what is your favorite NBA city to visit?
Speaker 2: And what is your must have meal in that city?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: Uh, probably San Francisco?
Speaker 1: And must you know what restaurant.
Speaker 4: The best?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite?
Speaker 5: What's off to San Francisco, go to go to Proger
Speaker 5: and forget.
Speaker 1: I forget the name of the rest.
Speaker 6: I think it's something simple as like Mama's or or
Speaker 6: something kitchen or bakery or something.
Speaker 1: But it's like this breakfast place that people.
Speaker 6: Stand outside and line for and so I just love
Speaker 6: breakfast and I like, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What's the way? What's the what? What what makes it?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: What are you getting at the really well made breakfast food? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I love breakfast food.
Speaker 4: I love Birds bagels in l A Miles.
Speaker 1: If you had that, I've got Courage bagels.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just had that for the first time
Speaker 5: this weekend. I ate like five bagels at birthday party.
Speaker 5: I was like boxing the kids out.
Speaker 1: I was like no, They're like, oh.
Speaker 4: No, all right?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 4: First of all? You got to keep us more on
Speaker 4: track than that.
Speaker 6: Don't not the best with these the speed of these
Speaker 6: quest like I try to think about it and maybe
Speaker 6: not have something on top.
Speaker 1: Of my head, but I'll try harder.
Speaker 5: All right, We're talking teams that we want to cover
Speaker 5: in the off season. You know that that people might
Speaker 5: not be paying attention to, but just like previewing them
Speaker 5: I think so far we've discussed the Spurs, shoe in.
Speaker 4: Okay, see shoe in.
Speaker 5: What's a team that you're expecting is going to be
Speaker 5: interesting to watch next season that you know, people.
Speaker 1: Might not have their eye on Orlando Magic.
Speaker 4: Orlando Magic be passing the ball to you.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wow, what is it about Orlando? Man?
Speaker 1: This is the lowest game ever.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I really hope they drafted Sar
Speaker 6: Thompson because I think he's going to be really good,
Speaker 6: as will his twin brother Amen Thompson. But in today's
Speaker 6: NBA front court, maybe two through four combo of Halo,
Speaker 6: Bang Caro, Franz, Wagner and Sar Thompson would be absolutely
Speaker 6: like it's It would be great for somebody like er
Speaker 6: exposed to, for example, so many options, so many things
Speaker 6: to do with that trio. They have everything except Ben
Speaker 6: Caro probably not as great as shooter Thompson going to
Speaker 6: be a good enough shooter. He's actually really good shooting
Speaker 6: the ball right now, and everything else that they can do,
Speaker 6: and their approach to the game, Like, I think that's
Speaker 6: going to be a really fun group. And even somebody
Speaker 6: like Markel Foltz who's not really required to do as much.
Speaker 6: He's having a lot of fun over there, and if
Speaker 6: you give him more talent around him, he's going to be,
Speaker 6: you know, even better.
Speaker 1: He's fun to watch.
Speaker 6: And so I think Orlando, And it's not just a
Speaker 6: Florida bias because I'm not a huge fan of Florida
Speaker 6: right now, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 5: As a Sixers fan, I've never heard of this Mark
Speaker 5: hell Foltz a little bit you're talking about, but he
Speaker 5: sounds like.
Speaker 1: I know not of this man. By the way, the
Speaker 1: restaurant or his shooting is on Washington Square. That's there,
Speaker 1: It is there, it is. That's what I love that.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we got to keep this second. I'm it's all good,
Speaker 2: It's all good. I gotta ask you this question.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You can go back and tend any single playoff game
Speaker 2: in NBA history, any game.
Speaker 1: Which game are you choosing? Do I know what's gonna happen?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Do I know the result?
Speaker 4: It's a great philosophical question. Do we my memory? What?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: Oh yes, you don't know.
Speaker 5: Super producer Jabari's coming through saying, yes, you are a
Speaker 5: Biff Tanner in this scenario.
Speaker 4: You got you know, the Sports.
Speaker 6: Almanac I'm gonna go ahead and say Kobe's eighty one,
Speaker 6: especially now, Uh you know, I remember where I was,
Speaker 6: and I do not do that very often because man,
Speaker 6: my memory is terrible long term. But I was at
Speaker 6: hard Rock Hotel and casino when I got a text.
Speaker 1: I forget who the text was from.
Speaker 6: See, somebody sent me a message and said Kobe has
Speaker 6: seventy and.
Speaker 4: I said it was a fact, and I just stopped.
Speaker 6: Everything I was doing and just went to the middle
Speaker 6: bar and yeah, TBS that had the NBA TV on,
Speaker 6: and it wasn't the most entered taining of finishes, but
Speaker 6: I know if I was there, I think I would
Speaker 6: have had just a lot of fun watching that, because
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's that, and it's it's will
Speaker 6: and so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably my answer.
Speaker 5: There are very few like flashbulb moments of like any
Speaker 5: any pop culture in my lifetime, but Kobe getting eighty one, Like,
Speaker 5: I remember where I was when I found out that
Speaker 5: game was happening, and like running to the TV and
Speaker 5: Lebron going off against Detroit for that first time when
Speaker 5: it was like, oh, okay, so he is right. I
Speaker 5: know that kids like to say that now that he
Speaker 5: really is him all right? Is there a single NBA
Speaker 5: player you would take right now over the chance of
Speaker 5: taking Wembayama with the first pick this summer?
Speaker 6: I would say, I don't know how many people you've
Speaker 6: asked this question, but I would say most people would
Speaker 6: lean toward taking.
Speaker 1: The short thing right. So if I could switch that for.
Speaker 6: I mean, who is the youngest stuff and coming star,
Speaker 6: I probably don't want to get Jason Tatum right If
Speaker 6: I could trade it right now for da Kola Jokic,
Speaker 6: is that an option?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jokic is an option. And I feel like we
Speaker 5: haven't had anybody heading home the playoffs. We hadn't had anybody,
Speaker 5: say Jokic, and I feel like he has played his
Speaker 5: way into that seems like the right answer, or at
Speaker 5: least a completely valid answer.
Speaker 4: At this point. It's like, oh, yeah, that's yeah, probably
Speaker 4: makes sense right.
Speaker 6: Because I mean, every for everybody that thinks though he's
Speaker 6: definitely gonna get hurt if his.
Speaker 1: Body type, like you don't think the people.
Speaker 6: Around him wo have been like nurturing him and taking
Speaker 6: care of him and wanting him to be this next
Speaker 6: great thing have not considered that possibility that maybe they
Speaker 6: should train him properly so that he doesn't get hurt,
Speaker 6: or it's theirs technology to sort of predict these types
Speaker 6: of things and knowing what to train, Like I think
Speaker 6: more than ever now you can't really make that argument,
Speaker 6: Like you can't really make that prediction anymore, because even
Speaker 6: if he does have some sort of like nobody thinks
Speaker 6: chet Homegrid's done right, He's just oh, all right, early
Speaker 6: first year, got a bad, unlucky injury, whatever, he'll be fine.
Speaker 6: I don't think you can predict injury with him. And
Speaker 6: you know, in the NBA, with the way it protects
Speaker 6: its offensive players, now, like what are you going to
Speaker 6: do against him if he rises up from distance, Like
Speaker 6: you have to get entirely out of his way unless
Speaker 6: you can block that shot. Yeah, And so I think
Speaker 6: he just provides too many possibilities and we've seen too
Speaker 6: much of an evolution of the game, like Yannest. You know, obviously,
Speaker 6: if I think if we redraft, he's number one in
Speaker 6: that season in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: But I think even if we don't know how good he.
Speaker 6: Can be, I think just his body type and his
Speaker 6: personality probably from an interview, gets him drafted in the
Speaker 6: top fifteen this year, you know, right, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 6: think anybody's passing up that possibility just because it's it's
Speaker 6: so unique, and you know, even with a guy like Jokic,
Speaker 6: you just don't know.
Speaker 1: He could get hurt anytime too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: People talk about like his size and health and they're like,
Speaker 5: you know, look what happened to like Ralph Sampson and
Speaker 5: Samboui and like guys who are over seven foot seven
Speaker 5: foot two. I think, but those guys played in penny
Speaker 5: loafers like that that few people realize that's what you
Speaker 5: played in back then. It was penny loafers or tap shoes.
Speaker 5: That's where the technology was at the time. So there's
Speaker 5: not there's not much.
Speaker 4: You can do. It's a different, different game. That's a
Speaker 4: very good point.
Speaker 2: Is he your South Florida native? I got to ask
Speaker 2: you rank these three Miami musicians from number one to
Speaker 2: number three. DJ Khaled, Gloria Stefon.
Speaker 1: Pitbull, oh man, okay, just by my taste.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to see Gloria Stephan third, and you
Speaker 6: know she's been I've spoken to Gloria and her husband.
Speaker 1: Very nice. People love them.
Speaker 6: Fixtures in the city made amazing music I've just heard.
Speaker 1: It my entire life.
Speaker 6: Sokay, second has to be pitfull.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: Uh, he is such a great story. But I just
Speaker 6: like DJ Kaled's music better. And Dj Kaled also was
Speaker 6: in my podcast four Years of Heat.
Speaker 4: Yeah there you go.
Speaker 1: Uh, no connection, why I'm picking him right right right?
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, like the banger is that he's made,
Speaker 6: whether producing or even wrapping on him, just you can
Speaker 6: listen to him anytimes.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: Also, I think we have to add a cool wrench
Speaker 5: pizza dia to the DJ Khaled the Papa John's Pizza diaol.
Speaker 4: My bad. But yeah, that that's another hit from another one.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 5: And finally the question we ask all our guests, Jack
Speaker 5: or Miles a refresher memory.
Speaker 4: I'm Jack.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of who I like better
Speaker 1: Mile Good.
Speaker 4: Usually people are like, oh, I can't pick, but I
Speaker 4: like that you're telling us so you like better? Cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna say, Miles, I feel like you need
Speaker 6: love right now because his Lakers just got swell.
Speaker 4: That's cool. I should have mentioned I'm a Sixers fan,
Speaker 4: but you did already.
Speaker 1: You did already, you did already.
Speaker 4: Let me have that.
Speaker 1: That makes my big way more solid.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, we're fine.
Speaker 5: We're fine in Philly. We're fine. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Is what a pleasure having you up until? Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 5: tell us about the podcast real quick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, four years of here that takes you through, uh,
Speaker 6: the four years that Lebron came here and blessed this
Speaker 6: town and turned them into a legitimate sports town and
Speaker 6: won a couple of championships. There's a lot of good
Speaker 6: stuff in there. It does not even just for Heat
Speaker 6: fans like Maverick stuff spurs stuff full right, pacers. It's
Speaker 6: all great. It's been so much fun going through it
Speaker 6: all and thinking back, like on how just pure of
Speaker 6: a competition that was, and how much people love that era.
Speaker 6: It's been a tough fun and it's going to be
Speaker 6: a fun listen, So check it out. We're dropping an
Speaker 6: episode every week. This Tuesday was our first episode. The
Speaker 6: next one will be next Tuesday. There'll be a couple
Speaker 6: of weeks where there's two episodes dropped. But it comes
Speaker 6: out at the same time as the ten year anniversary
Speaker 6: of Ray Allen's shot where you know he saved the
Speaker 6: Heat season in twenty thirteen, and.
Speaker 1: You've got new interviews right with Ray and.
Speaker 6: With a bunch of guys Shane Battier, Mario Chalmers, Joe Kim, Noah,
Speaker 6: Brendan Haywood, Matt Bonner, Boris Dia joined me from France.
Speaker 6: It's been a lot of Rachel Nichols, Dan Levittard, a
Speaker 6: lot of great J.
Speaker 1: Khalid is in there every episode. So yeah, if you liked.
Speaker 4: The last dance, but we're like, where's DJ Khaled during this?
Speaker 6: You liked the last dance, you didn't like all the
Speaker 6: moving pictures on your team?
Speaker 1: This is this is the mission?
Speaker 2: Where else can people find you and follow you and
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff?
Speaker 6: And so the social is Gutierra's on Twitter, mister is
Speaker 6: Gutierras on Instagram, And yeah, you've seen me on ESPN,
Speaker 6: Around the Horn, Debatable, all those shows.
Speaker 1: Catch my work on.
Speaker 6: ESPN dot com, CJ mcollum podcast whenever that comes back
Speaker 6: around ESPN daily at the moment, who knows how long
Speaker 6: I'm going to be doing that for maybe a long time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you coun probably find me anywhere.
Speaker 2: Cool we go, all right, well you can find us
Speaker 2: at mad Boosti's on Twitter, b sdi ees and man,
Speaker 2: we got to give a shout out to our Boosties
Speaker 2: listeners of the week once again, Aaron McCarthy wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure to thank me for acknowledging the lebron aging
Speaker 2: talk being disturbing as a thirty eight year old person
Speaker 2: who graduated high school in the year two thousand and three,
Speaker 2: tired of hearing people like he's thirty eight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's about the forty five year old that I
Speaker 6: am in complete agreement with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on with baby, let that like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Let him live?
Speaker 2: And also shout out to Zeitgeist listener the Real Mad
Speaker 2: Max for giving the show listen for the first time
Speaker 2: due to the Webbin Yama conversation. So we always appreciate
Speaker 2: the love from the other listeners as well.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Until next time, I'll be Miles, that will be Jack.
Speaker 4: Oh here, but you did alright o.
Speaker 2: This We'll nail it this time. Until next time, I'll
Speaker 2: be no, I'm not hold on, let me do it, Okay, I'll.
Speaker 4: Be Miles and I'll be Jack. Yes, and this is
Speaker 4: ma boot booties.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, I'll see next week later. Nailed it.
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