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Speaker 2: Can the Denver Nuggets have completed the sweep. They got

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Speaker 2: their brooms out and swept the way the dusty old Lakers.

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile the Celtics, I'm sorry, I felt like we

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Celtics, they managed to avoid getting swept and

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Speaker 2: forced the game five, which, by the time you're hearing

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Speaker 2: this will be happening later today and we'll discuss the

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Speaker 2: utter dominance of Yokich along with the healthy Jamal Murray,

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Speaker 2: as well as the heat in Celtics and War with

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Speaker 2: ESPN NBA reporter is He Gutierrez on today's episode, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Miles Great and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is Miles

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Speaker 3: Inties perfectly in sync as always for days Good.

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Speaker 4: There's your indeed driving spinning.

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Speaker 1: Curry, a three punter.

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Speaker 4: Stop Curry from downtown again to.

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Speaker 1: Be honest with ter, Look, shut time you go, y.

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Speaker 3: Isy.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: How's it going guys? Oh or great?

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Speaker 2: I'm whatever, like it's going great, It's fine.

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Speaker 5: I mean you're so you're dropping a podcast called four

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Speaker 5: years of Heat podcast at a time, like just perfectly

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Speaker 5: in line, How did you get the NBA to script

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Speaker 5: this so perfectly, like turning the Eastern Conference Finals into

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Speaker 5: a piece of sponsored content for your podcast.

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Speaker 6: I would say, whatever, whatever script writer is working here,

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Speaker 6: like South Florida, you must have just visited.

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Speaker 1: He or she must have just been.

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Speaker 6: Florida, because like, we got a lot of good stuff

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Speaker 6: of course, And so I don't know what kind of

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Speaker 6: this year's heat. What As I continued working on it,

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Speaker 6: even the player I got to the last couple of

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Speaker 6: might not even make the playoffs, and they'll be like, why.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, the reason we're releasing these because it's

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Speaker 6: I don't know what kind of whatever juju, whatever mojo

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we talk about the myth of having figured it out,

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Speaker 6: Well, Jimmy'll just get inside his own head. And that's what, like,

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Speaker 6: It's just too many, like you mentioned the variables, like

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Speaker 6: Like yeah, it could have Kevin Love hit four threes

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Speaker 6: And so I'm with you, like you just don't can't

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Speaker 1: So it's just shot well.

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Speaker 2: Luckily for the heat, Game five is in Boston, so

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Speaker 6: Man, I think Lebron broke that place because in twenty

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Speaker 1: That place used to be tough to play.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I feel like there's something with how talented

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Speaker 6: You remember in like in that game six and twenty twelve,

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Speaker 6: going into Game seven. Now they don't even try that.

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Speaker 6: They're just like, ah, whatever, you see this movie a

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Speaker 1: Right, right? All right, let's.

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Speaker 2: Take a break real quick, and then we'll come back

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Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about the Western Conference before

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Speaker 1: I got to talk about the Western Conference finals, Miles.

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Speaker 5: I will not let you make the same mistake I

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Speaker 4: I feel like the Nuggets are playing.

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Speaker 5: This might be recency biased, but I feel like they're

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Speaker 6: So is your five years in your head? Does that

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Speaker 4: I think it.

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Speaker 1: Since then.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was thinking it was like since the KD

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Speaker 1: But uh, well we're gonna get to that later.

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Speaker 6: Preview there, because I mean we already talked about how

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Speaker 4: Really well, they got to win the chip first.

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Speaker 6: They do, and then so I wonder, like I think

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Speaker 6: Like it's funny how much better just keeps getting Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like for for all, Like you know, you

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Speaker 2: He plays uncle ball like it feels like you're playing

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Speaker 2: you're trying to guard this. Watch me throw it over

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Speaker 1: This is like, this is championship material.

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Speaker 2: And I'm as much as I felt good about, you know,

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Speaker 2: and day. There's just such a golf and quality at

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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you, because I'm not that weird talking

443
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Speaker 6: about the Lakers. We're still technically talking about the winning team,

444
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 6: but I wanted to ask you what how you thought

445
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 6: Anthony Davis defended Jokis Because I mean, obviously they went

446
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Speaker 6: to t Hachimura there for a long time and had

447
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Speaker 6: Anthony Davis helping some. But I think in terms of

448
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 6: one on one, it's never gonna matter who's actually defending him, right.

449
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Speaker 1: If you don't actually give help. Yeah, it did feel

450
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Speaker 1: like that.

451
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Speaker 2: Uh, And I there are times where I felt it

452
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Speaker 2: was definitely lacking, But again, I think it was just

453
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Speaker 2: beyond all that because prior to that, Ad has been

454
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Speaker 2: one of the most dominant defensive players. Like watching this

455
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 2: playoff front, I was like wow. In my mind, I

456
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay, I like this going like now

457
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Speaker 2: we have something, But the reality smacked me right in

458
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Speaker 2: my face and it was like, it turns out it

459
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Speaker 2: was not enough.

460
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Speaker 5: It would have worked well if he wasn't one of

461
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 5: the best passers we've seen in the history of the game,

462
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Speaker 5: and with a bunch of shooters on his team, then

463
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Speaker 5: it right.

464
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Speaker 6: I was just say, Aaron Gordon's your worst shooter, and

465
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Speaker 6: I don't know's you're not going to give the Draymond treatment,

466
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Speaker 6: like you're not gonna leave him in the corner because

467
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Speaker 6: he's going to hit one added tude of those.

468
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And we learned the.

469
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Speaker 5: Two times when yo Kic, like he didn't win the

470
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Speaker 5: the series by hitting threes, but the side arm three

471
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Speaker 5: he hit over a d where he just like kind

472
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Speaker 5: of cranked it from the side and it was nothing

473
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Speaker 5: but net. And then like that running backwards one foot three.

474
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Speaker 5: That was was that game three or four?

475
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Speaker 1: I forget.

476
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 5: Absolute dagger And then he pulled a coin out from behind.

477
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Speaker 4: A d's ear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly that was.

479
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Speaker 2: He made him animal, Yeah, made animal, like what birthday

480
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Speaker 2: son shot clock at four?

481
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 6: Yoka has to put it up, pulling away, puts it up,

482
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 6: knocks downs.

483
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Speaker 1: Was on the line of water shut.

484
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Speaker 6: So the answer is essentially, you've got to outscore them,

485
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Speaker 6: right like it. If you're not going to have if

486
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 6: they're going to be surrounded, surrounding Yokic with shooters and

487
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 6: just playmakers like Bruce Brown's a good playmaker obviously Murray,

488
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Speaker 6: then you're going to have to outscore them. And in

489
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Speaker 6: doing that, you're probably gonna have to try to tire

490
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Speaker 6: Jokic or the whole team right and to make sloppy mistakes.

491
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Speaker 6: And this is where I see potential. And I don't

492
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Speaker 6: know if we want to get into a potential matchup

493
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Speaker 6: with Miami. So if we want to keep talking about

494
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Speaker 6: these these Nuggets, because.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've made our point. The Nuggets

496
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Speaker 2: are the team to talk. Although again, I know many

497
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Speaker 2: people love to they love to see the vanquished Lakers,

498
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: which I get that's just the the culture of the

499
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: NBA fandom and stuff like that. But yeah, we can

500
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Speaker 2: all agree that they were fantastic and that's they They

501
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Speaker 2: deserve their flowers.

502
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Speaker 6: And you don't want to talk about the possibility of

503
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Speaker 6: Lebron retiring right Like, you're just we're just going to

504
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Speaker 6: skip right past that.

505
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Speaker 2: I mean, to me personally, I look, I like, I

506
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Speaker 2: like the takes I've seen on Twitter.

507
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Speaker 1: Why don't you go to usc Man he'll play with

508
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: Ron either for a year?

509
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 4: Four years of eligibility.

510
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Speaker 1: I mean's what is he made?

511
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Speaker 6: Like two three hundred million in image, image and likeness

512
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 6: so far right right right?

513
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Speaker 2: But no, I mean I think when I saw that,

514
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: I was like, no way, Like, surely that can't be.

515
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: But at times, I like I've said to Jack and

516
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: like Jabari, like on our tech starts watching the game,

517
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's looking hurt. He's looking like human, which is,

518
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: you know, something we're not used to seeing. So that's

519
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: definitely jarring. And maybe I'm avoiding it because like I

520
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: just didn't want to accept seeing that. But I mean,

521
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: he's he's he's come this far. But yeah, however he

522
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Speaker 2: wants to end it, He's gonna end it.

523
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean he says in one breath that he's like

525
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Speaker 6: still ninety five or top ninety fifth percentile or whatever.

526
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Speaker 6: That phrasing is better than ninety five percent of the

527
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Speaker 6: players in the league. And then you know, says, maybe

528
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Speaker 6: I want to retire to that guard. He's gonna have

529
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Speaker 6: the most elaborate farewell tour ever.

530
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he's gonna have everything announced ever. He will

531
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Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, he will not go quiet into that

532
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Speaker 1: good night of retirement. We definitely know that.

533
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Speaker 6: The one thing I will say about the Nuggets though,

534
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Speaker 6: in terms of I don't think they can really beat themselves,

535
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 6: but do you think Jamal Murray can still have one

536
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 6: or two of those like shooting them out of a

537
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Speaker 6: game type of situations, because he does seem to always

538
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 6: want to shoot his way out of a slum rather.

539
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Speaker 1: Than just you know, let somebody else get a couple

540
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Speaker 1: of looks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, they are to a lesser degree

542
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Speaker 5: than the Celtics.

543
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Speaker 4: They are pretty three point dependent.

544
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Speaker 5: At least he is as a as a scorer, so

545
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Speaker 5: I mean if he if he's off, and he is

546
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 5: a streaky player, but it just yeah, all right, first

547
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 5: crack of doubt in the Nuggets.

548
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Speaker 4: I'm starting to see it.

549
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Speaker 5: The only issue is that you're playing half the games

550
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 5: in Denver, and so the idea of gassing them like no, right,

551
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 5: and you're gonna be guessed.

552
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Speaker 6: I would say, like, I maybe I didn't watch as

553
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Speaker 6: closely as I thought I was watching, but like I

554
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Speaker 6: feel like you can work yo Kicchen the pick and

555
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 6: rolls a lot more like I think you can force

556
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 6: a lot of him defending, and like, look, Jimmy Butler,

557
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Speaker 6: and I've been wondering why he does this because it

558
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 6: drives me nuts, Like thinking back even to last season

559
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 6: or whenever they play the Sixers, he'll be, you know,

560
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 6: switched on to Joel and Beatle switch on to him,

561
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Speaker 6: and that's the dude.

562
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Speaker 1: He decides to attack him like why why are.

563
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the biggest Robert Williams yesterday, But he's been.

564
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Speaker 6: Doing that to Robert Williams the whole series, and I'm

565
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Speaker 6: wondering why.

566
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Speaker 1: And I don't think that he's looking ahead clearly.

567
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 6: But if I look ahead, I'm like, if that dude's

568
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 6: taking Robert Williams whenever he wants, not whenever he wants,

569
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 6: but on occasion, he's gonna hunt Yokic down every time

570
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 6: and make it. Now if if that's the nugget, if

571
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Speaker 6: the Nuggets want to just you know, hedge and recover

572
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Speaker 6: do whatever else, then that might be a nightmare for

573
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Speaker 6: them too, because Jokic doesn't really have great foot speed.

574
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Speaker 6: I think they can be gotten with execution, like offensive execution.

575
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Speaker 6: And that's why I thought Lebron, because he had a

576
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Speaker 6: d as that weapon, would be able to out execute them.

577
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 6: It's just, you know, they just Nuggets had too much firepower.

578
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 6: I do think that Miami, with a lot of these

579
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 6: things that they do, the deflections, it's not going to

580
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 6: make all these passes is simple, you know, the charges

581
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 6: that you know, these driving kicks, you know, you might

582
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 6: just run into Kyle Lowry and there goes that possession.

583
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 6: So I think they can be bothered enough because again,

584
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 6: looking at that Lakers.

585
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: Team, what was that roster? By the end?

586
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Speaker 6: Was it all the like the defensive was it? Vanderbilt

587
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 6: wasn't playing right, I mean, unless you're saying Hachi Mura

588
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 6: is like that crazy defensive difference maker. Like I mean,

589
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 6: by the end, you're playing D'Angelo Russell, Lonnie Walker, and

590
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Speaker 6: Tristan Thompson off your bench. So I don't know if

591
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 6: that was the same caliber of defensive team that the

592
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Speaker 6: Heat's giving you right now in the playoffs.

593
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Speaker 1: So and that's even with Anthony Davis.

594
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Speaker 6: So I mean, I think I think there's a lot

595
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Speaker 6: to be sort of gained from a coaching advantage. No

596
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 6: offense to Michael Malone, but a coaching advantage and a

597
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 6: sort of toughness and effort advantage because like, no offense,

598
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 6: but MPG isn't you know, giving you all the feisty

599
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 6: defensive effort, like unless he's hitting eight threes in a row.

600
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Speaker 1: So I think the.

601
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Speaker 6: Heat would still have something that Denver hasn't really seen yet.

602
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's got something that everybody hasn't really seen.

603
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 5: Is what we're learning. Man, somebody is getting rich off

604
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 5: of betting on the heat. Somebody saw this coming into

605
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: the playoffs and if I was, it.

606
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 6: Better, like I would just do that to all my

607
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 6: preseason predictions.

608
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Speaker 1: I'll imagine where I'd be. Yeah, yeah, big swings. Yeah

609
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I was praying, but still right right.

610
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 5: I mean, both teams kind of feel like teams of

611
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: inevitability at this point, which is what makes for a

612
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 5: good finals, like Miami just being able to turn it

613
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 5: up when they want. Denver has just looked like the

614
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 5: best team all season, and then the playoffs came around

615
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 5: and they looked better with each round. I feel like,

616
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 5: so that makes for an amazing finals. I'm super excited

617
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 5: to see. I don't have a feel about the one

618
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 5: I didn't have a feel about.

619
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 4: I might just have.

620
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 5: Denver blindness because I didn't have a feel about Denver Lakers.

621
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 5: I had a feel about Miami Celtics. I don't really

622
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 5: have a feel about Miami Denver at this point.

623
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Speaker 1: I've seen it.

624
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 6: I've seen Miami Denver in the regular season and it was.

625
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: Pretty much Denver.

626
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 6: It's ugly for Miami, and but you know, after these

627
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 6: three rounds, it's like you throw all that out the window. Anyway,

628
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 6: because you know, how seriously did they really take preparation

629
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 6: for that one game?

630
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, it's unstoppable for us versus immovable object,

631
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 2: which is always always a good, good battle for any sports.

632
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

633
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 5: Also, it does feel like playoff experience and having been

634
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 5: there has been advantageous recently. So I feel like that

635
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 5: that gives Miami a bit of an advantage.

636
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 6: Well, guy that never really gets talked about but means

637
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 6: so much is Bam out of bioh like him going

638
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 6: from you know Deepoi what second place Brook Lopez second

639
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 6: or third and having to figure out a way and

640
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 6: then you know Mitchell Robinson who dominated the calves big men,

641
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 6: he'd had to find a way to make sure that

642
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 6: he didn't you know, do too much while again still

643
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 6: doing everything on the defensive end of the floor, switching

644
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 6: on the perimeter, rebounding, et cetera. He picked up the

645
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 6: rebounding game, I think the Clint Capella game in the

646
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 6: play and embarrassed him a little bit. And he just

647
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 6: is rebounding has gotten significantly better. And I wish I

648
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 6: was saying this before Game four because he kind of,

649
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 6: you know, didn't perform as well in Game four but

650
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 6: he seemed to have figured out, you know, let me

651
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 6: put the all in effort and I'm not going to

652
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 6: concern myself too much with everybody telling me I need

653
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 6: to score. Of course I'm gonna try, but it's not

654
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 6: going to be my primary focus. And it seems to

655
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 6: have working well for him. And then you just got

656
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 6: to picture him and you think, all right, he's doing

657
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 6: it way better than he was last year against the Celtics,

658
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 6: and and you know those two guys are still there,

659
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 6: Horford and Williams.

660
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Speaker 1: And then he doesn't get a break.

661
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 6: He's gonna get yo kids in the next round and

662
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 6: be completely helpless when he's one on one in the post.

663
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Speaker 6: And it's not even gonna be an option. Really, it's

664
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Speaker 6: for him to stay one on one. And so I

665
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Speaker 6: don't it's it's a nightmare for him. Like, I have

666
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,239
Speaker 6: no idea how he is going to last through, you know,

667
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 6: however many games playing heavy minutes, because I think he's

668
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 6: just going to be exhausted.

669
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Speaker 4: Yeah, gas, And I mean that's well.

670
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Speaker 1: Announced this right there. He's going to be tired.

671
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: I mean when I'm watching these guys, I'm like they're

672
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: running up and down the floor, so much.

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Speaker 1: They're not tired.

674
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: They're not tired. That's my that's my take. I mean

675
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: the other like the Heat have really used the zone.

676
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: Well uh, and I feel like the Nuggets feel zone proof.

677
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 5: But then again, I mean the Celtics seemed like they

678
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 5: should have been zone proof a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I didn't go back and watch those games, and I'm

680
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 6: pretty sure I remember the Heat working. They're trying that

681
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 6: zone against Jokic and it not.

682
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

683
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's hard because he's like algorithmically always making

684
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: the right decision with the ball.

685
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 6: And everybody around him already naturally cuts and plays off

686
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 6: of him because they've been doing it since, you know,

687
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 6: since they played with him, and so doing it against

688
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 6: his own is easier. You've got stationary people there, so

689
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 6: for the most part. Yeah, oh, it's like practice cones.

690
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Cool.

691
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, all right, let's take a quick break.

692
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: We'll come back and is he's going to be in

693
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Speaker 2: the hot seat for the rapid fire round of questions

694
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: after this.

695
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: And we're back busy.

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Speaker 5: I know you've been on TV, you've done so many podcasts,

697
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 5: so much media. This what you're about to experience is

698
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 5: actually the fastest segment in media.

699
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Speaker 4: History, any format.

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Speaker 1: Even ones that have not been created yet.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, but here toofore and so forth. If

702
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Speaker 5: you had a hat on your head, it would be

703
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: spinning around.

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00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: Uh that's how fast this is.

705
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 5: So Miles and I are going to be throwing questions

706
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 5: at you.

707
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: Your job is to just give us your answer.

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00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 5: Quep us on track, because we're not as fast as

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Speaker 5: the segment is sometimes.

710
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Speaker 2: So if we start dragging on with our answers like

711
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Speaker 2: you got the media professionalism, be like, hey, guys, come on,

712
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: keep this going.

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Speaker 1: This this is the rapid fire round of question.

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Speaker 6: You're wildly unprofessional, both participant and the referee.

715
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, That's what makes this so unique. So again,

716
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: hit you with the question, chest, pass it right back.

717
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: Quick responses, no thinking you ready?

718
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I thought too much. Yes, I'm ready. There

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Speaker 1: we go, Bryan start the clock. Okay, Jack, are you

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Speaker 1: gonna go first?

721
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: Or oh I'd love for you to go first? Miles?

722
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.

723
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Speaker 2: Is he what is your favorite NBA city to visit?

724
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: And what is your must have meal in that city?

725
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

726
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: Man?

727
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 6: Uh, probably San Francisco?

728
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: And must you know what restaurant.

729
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: The best?

730
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: What's your favorite?

731
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Speaker 5: What's off to San Francisco, go to go to Proger

732
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Speaker 5: and forget.

733
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Speaker 1: I forget the name of the rest.

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Speaker 6: I think it's something simple as like Mama's or or

735
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Speaker 6: something kitchen or bakery or something.

736
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Speaker 1: But it's like this breakfast place that people.

737
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Speaker 6: Stand outside and line for and so I just love

738
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Speaker 6: breakfast and I like, you know, yeah, yeah.

739
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Speaker 1: What's the way? What's the what? What what makes it?

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00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 5: Like?

741
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Speaker 1: What are you getting at the really well made breakfast food? Okay, okay,

742
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I love breakfast food.

743
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: I love Birds bagels in l A Miles.

744
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: If you had that, I've got Courage bagels.

745
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just had that for the first time

746
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 5: this weekend. I ate like five bagels at birthday party.

747
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: I was like boxing the kids out.

748
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Speaker 1: I was like no, They're like, oh.

749
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Speaker 4: No, all right?

750
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Speaker 3: Is he?

751
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Speaker 4: First of all? You got to keep us more on

752
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: track than that.

753
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Speaker 6: Don't not the best with these the speed of these

754
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 6: quest like I try to think about it and maybe

755
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Speaker 6: not have something on top.

756
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: Of my head, but I'll try harder.

757
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 5: All right, We're talking teams that we want to cover

758
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 5: in the off season. You know that that people might

759
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 5: not be paying attention to, but just like previewing them

760
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 5: I think so far we've discussed the Spurs, shoe in.

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Speaker 4: Okay, see shoe in.

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Speaker 5: What's a team that you're expecting is going to be

763
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Speaker 5: interesting to watch next season that you know, people.

764
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: Might not have their eye on Orlando Magic.

765
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Speaker 4: Orlando Magic be passing the ball to you.

766
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wow, what is it about Orlando? Man?

767
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: This is the lowest game ever.

768
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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I really hope they drafted Sar

770
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Speaker 6: Thompson because I think he's going to be really good,

771
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: as will his twin brother Amen Thompson. But in today's

772
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 6: NBA front court, maybe two through four combo of Halo,

773
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 6: Bang Caro, Franz, Wagner and Sar Thompson would be absolutely

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Speaker 6: like it's It would be great for somebody like er

775
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 6: exposed to, for example, so many options, so many things

776
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 6: to do with that trio. They have everything except Ben

777
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 6: Caro probably not as great as shooter Thompson going to

778
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 6: be a good enough shooter. He's actually really good shooting

779
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 6: the ball right now, and everything else that they can do,

780
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: and their approach to the game, Like, I think that's

781
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 6: going to be a really fun group. And even somebody

782
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 6: like Markel Foltz who's not really required to do as much.

783
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 6: He's having a lot of fun over there, and if

784
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 6: you give him more talent around him, he's going to be,

785
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 6: you know, even better.

786
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Speaker 1: He's fun to watch.

787
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Speaker 6: And so I think Orlando, And it's not just a

788
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 6: Florida bias because I'm not a huge fan of Florida

789
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 6: right now, Okay, yeah.

790
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 5: As a Sixers fan, I've never heard of this Mark

791
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 5: hell Foltz a little bit you're talking about, but he

792
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 5: sounds like.

793
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Speaker 1: I know not of this man. By the way, the

794
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: restaurant or his shooting is on Washington Square. That's there,

795
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: It is there, it is. That's what I love that.

796
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, we got to keep this second. I'm it's all good,

797
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: It's all good. I gotta ask you this question.

798
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Now.

799
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: You can go back and tend any single playoff game

800
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: in NBA history, any game.

801
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: Which game are you choosing? Do I know what's gonna happen?

802
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: Like?

803
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Do I know the result?

804
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: It's a great philosophical question. Do we my memory? What?

805
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Wow?

806
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 4: Oh yes, you don't know.

807
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: Super producer Jabari's coming through saying, yes, you are a

808
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: Biff Tanner in this scenario.

809
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: You got you know, the Sports.

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00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 6: Almanac I'm gonna go ahead and say Kobe's eighty one,

811
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 6: especially now, Uh you know, I remember where I was,

812
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 6: and I do not do that very often because man,

813
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 6: my memory is terrible long term. But I was at

814
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 6: hard Rock Hotel and casino when I got a text.

815
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: I forget who the text was from.

816
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 6: See, somebody sent me a message and said Kobe has

817
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 6: seventy and.

818
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 4: I said it was a fact, and I just stopped.

819
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 6: Everything I was doing and just went to the middle

820
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 6: bar and yeah, TBS that had the NBA TV on,

821
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 6: and it wasn't the most entered taining of finishes, but

822
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 6: I know if I was there, I think I would

823
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 6: have had just a lot of fun watching that, because

824
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's that, and it's it's will

825
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 6: and so.

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00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably my answer.

827
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 5: There are very few like flashbulb moments of like any

828
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 5: any pop culture in my lifetime, but Kobe getting eighty one, Like,

829
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: I remember where I was when I found out that

830
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 5: game was happening, and like running to the TV and

831
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 5: Lebron going off against Detroit for that first time when

832
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 5: it was like, oh, okay, so he is right. I

833
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: know that kids like to say that now that he

834
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 5: really is him all right? Is there a single NBA

835
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 5: player you would take right now over the chance of

836
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: taking Wembayama with the first pick this summer?

837
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 6: I would say, I don't know how many people you've

838
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 6: asked this question, but I would say most people would

839
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 6: lean toward taking.

840
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: The short thing right. So if I could switch that for.

841
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 6: I mean, who is the youngest stuff and coming star,

842
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 6: I probably don't want to get Jason Tatum right If

843
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 6: I could trade it right now for da Kola Jokic,

844
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 6: is that an option?

845
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jokic is an option. And I feel like we

846
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 5: haven't had anybody heading home the playoffs. We hadn't had anybody,

847
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: say Jokic, and I feel like he has played his

848
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 5: way into that seems like the right answer, or at

849
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 5: least a completely valid answer.

850
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: At this point. It's like, oh, yeah, that's yeah, probably

851
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: makes sense right.

852
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 6: Because I mean, every for everybody that thinks though he's

853
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 6: definitely gonna get hurt if his.

854
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: Body type, like you don't think the people.

855
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 6: Around him wo have been like nurturing him and taking

856
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 6: care of him and wanting him to be this next

857
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 6: great thing have not considered that possibility that maybe they

858
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 6: should train him properly so that he doesn't get hurt,

859
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: or it's theirs technology to sort of predict these types

860
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 6: of things and knowing what to train, Like I think

861
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 6: more than ever now you can't really make that argument,

862
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 6: Like you can't really make that prediction anymore, because even

863
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 6: if he does have some sort of like nobody thinks

864
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 6: chet Homegrid's done right, He's just oh, all right, early

865
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 6: first year, got a bad, unlucky injury, whatever, he'll be fine.

866
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 6: I don't think you can predict injury with him. And

867
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 6: you know, in the NBA, with the way it protects

868
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: its offensive players, now, like what are you going to

869
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 6: do against him if he rises up from distance, Like

870
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 6: you have to get entirely out of his way unless

871
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 6: you can block that shot. Yeah, And so I think

872
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 6: he just provides too many possibilities and we've seen too

873
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 6: much of an evolution of the game, like Yannest. You know, obviously,

874
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 6: if I think if we redraft, he's number one in

875
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 6: that season in twenty thirteen.

876
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: But I think even if we don't know how good he.

877
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 6: Can be, I think just his body type and his

878
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 6: personality probably from an interview, gets him drafted in the

879
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 6: top fifteen this year, you know, right, Yeah, I don't

880
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 6: think anybody's passing up that possibility just because it's it's

881
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 6: so unique, and you know, even with a guy like Jokic,

882
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Speaker 6: you just don't know.

883
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: He could get hurt anytime too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 5: People talk about like his size and health and they're like,

886
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: you know, look what happened to like Ralph Sampson and

887
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Speaker 5: Samboui and like guys who are over seven foot seven

888
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 5: foot two. I think, but those guys played in penny

889
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 5: loafers like that that few people realize that's what you

890
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 5: played in back then. It was penny loafers or tap shoes.

891
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 5: That's where the technology was at the time. So there's

892
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Speaker 5: not there's not much.

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Speaker 4: You can do. It's a different, different game. That's a

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Speaker 4: very good point.

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Speaker 2: Is he your South Florida native? I got to ask

896
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: you rank these three Miami musicians from number one to

897
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Speaker 2: number three. DJ Khaled, Gloria Stefon.

898
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: Pitbull, oh man, okay, just by my taste.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to see Gloria Stephan third, and you

900
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 6: know she's been I've spoken to Gloria and her husband.

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00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: Very nice. People love them.

902
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 6: Fixtures in the city made amazing music I've just heard.

903
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: It my entire life.

904
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Speaker 6: Sokay, second has to be pitfull.

905
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: Now.

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00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 6: Uh, he is such a great story. But I just

907
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 6: like DJ Kaled's music better. And Dj Kaled also was

908
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 6: in my podcast four Years of Heat.

909
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah there you go.

910
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: Uh, no connection, why I'm picking him right right right?

911
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, like the banger is that he's made,

912
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: whether producing or even wrapping on him, just you can

913
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 6: listen to him anytimes.

914
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

915
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 5: Also, I think we have to add a cool wrench

916
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 5: pizza dia to the DJ Khaled the Papa John's Pizza diaol.

917
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 4: My bad. But yeah, that that's another hit from another one.

918
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: All right.

919
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 5: And finally the question we ask all our guests, Jack

920
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 5: or Miles a refresher memory.

921
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: I'm Jack.

922
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of who I like better

923
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 1: Mile Good.

924
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: Usually people are like, oh, I can't pick, but I

925
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 4: like that you're telling us so you like better? Cool.

926
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna say, Miles, I feel like you need

927
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 6: love right now because his Lakers just got swell.

928
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: That's cool. I should have mentioned I'm a Sixers fan,

929
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: but you did already.

930
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: You did already, you did already.

931
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: Let me have that.

932
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: That makes my big way more solid.

933
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: All right, all right, we're fine.

934
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 5: We're fine in Philly. We're fine. Thank you so much.

935
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 5: Is what a pleasure having you up until? Yes, Yeah,

936
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: tell us about the podcast real quick.

937
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, four years of here that takes you through, uh,

938
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 6: the four years that Lebron came here and blessed this

939
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 6: town and turned them into a legitimate sports town and

940
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 6: won a couple of championships. There's a lot of good

941
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 6: stuff in there. It does not even just for Heat

942
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 6: fans like Maverick stuff spurs stuff full right, pacers. It's

943
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 6: all great. It's been so much fun going through it

944
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 6: all and thinking back, like on how just pure of

945
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 6: a competition that was, and how much people love that era.

946
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 6: It's been a tough fun and it's going to be

947
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 6: a fun listen, So check it out. We're dropping an

948
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 6: episode every week. This Tuesday was our first episode. The

949
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 6: next one will be next Tuesday. There'll be a couple

950
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 6: of weeks where there's two episodes dropped. But it comes

951
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 6: out at the same time as the ten year anniversary

952
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 6: of Ray Allen's shot where you know he saved the

953
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 6: Heat season in twenty thirteen, and.

954
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: You've got new interviews right with Ray and.

955
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 6: With a bunch of guys Shane Battier, Mario Chalmers, Joe Kim, Noah,

956
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 6: Brendan Haywood, Matt Bonner, Boris Dia joined me from France.

957
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 6: It's been a lot of Rachel Nichols, Dan Levittard, a

958
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 6: lot of great J.

959
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Khalid is in there every episode. So yeah, if you liked.

960
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: The last dance, but we're like, where's DJ Khaled during this?

961
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 6: You liked the last dance, you didn't like all the

962
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 6: moving pictures on your team?

963
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: This is this is the mission?

964
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: Where else can people find you and follow you and

965
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff?

966
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 6: And so the social is Gutierra's on Twitter, mister is

967
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 6: Gutierras on Instagram, And yeah, you've seen me on ESPN,

968
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 6: Around the Horn, Debatable, all those shows.

969
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: Catch my work on.

970
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 6: ESPN dot com, CJ mcollum podcast whenever that comes back

971
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 6: around ESPN daily at the moment, who knows how long

972
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 6: I'm going to be doing that for maybe a long time.

973
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, you coun probably find me anywhere.

974
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Speaker 2: Cool we go, all right, well you can find us

975
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: at mad Boosti's on Twitter, b sdi ees and man,

976
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: we got to give a shout out to our Boosties

977
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: listeners of the week once again, Aaron McCarthy wanted to

978
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: make sure to thank me for acknowledging the lebron aging

979
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: talk being disturbing as a thirty eight year old person

980
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: who graduated high school in the year two thousand and three,

981
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: tired of hearing people like he's thirty eight.

982
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's about the forty five year old that I

983
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 6: am in complete agreement with you.

984
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on with baby, let that like, what are

985
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: you talking about? Let him live?

986
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: And also shout out to Zeitgeist listener the Real Mad

987
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: Max for giving the show listen for the first time

988
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: due to the Webbin Yama conversation. So we always appreciate

989
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: the love from the other listeners as well.

990
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

991
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: Until next time, I'll be Miles, that will be Jack.

992
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: Oh here, but you did alright o.

993
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: This We'll nail it this time. Until next time, I'll

994
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: be no, I'm not hold on, let me do it, Okay, I'll.

995
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: Be Miles and I'll be Jack. Yes, and this is

996
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: ma boot booties.

997
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, I'll see next week later. Nailed it.

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Speaker 1: M