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Speaker 1: Hey, thank you so much for listening this year. This

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Speaker 1: has been a crazy year, but in my podcast life

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Speaker 1: it's been extraordinary. This has been such an incredible outlet

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Speaker 1: for me. I love doing this. It's so funny that

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Speaker 1: you all, I could be talking to the Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: and you will be more interested in what I have

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Speaker 1: to say about Kale or Gwyneth Palcho's vagina, which makes

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Speaker 1: me love you even more. The nonsense, the rants have

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Speaker 1: been a huge hit, and I guess this is really

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Speaker 1: the only place that anyone's getting my random and ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: irreverent thoughts, so I shared them with you. This conversation

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Speaker 1: is tailored to you and our intimate important discussions on

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Speaker 1: everything from the state of the world to broccoli rob.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate you, and I hope you have a happy,

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Speaker 1: happy holiday. I hope you have a fruitful, uh and

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Speaker 1: wonderful new Year. And I'm so grateful because you have

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Speaker 1: helped me to make something so important to me so successful.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for that gift. It's the greatest gift

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Speaker 1: anyone could give me. Why when did everyone have to

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Speaker 1: like give us there like religious beliefs in the end

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Speaker 1: of a god damn email like with patience and dignity,

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Speaker 1: with love and harmony, with Christ and hugs, like I

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Speaker 1: don't understand every time someone said, like now an email

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Speaker 1: when someone signs out warmth, with patience, kindness, with goodness

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Speaker 1: and empathy, like what is going on? Am I so

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Speaker 1: sort of touchy feely culty love seminar? It's okay, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm good with sincerely best, I'm good with just sign

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Speaker 1: your name. I like, I don't think it's always that

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Speaker 1: sincere either sincerely, so oh me get this straight. Other

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Speaker 1: ones that you send out that don't have sincerely on it,

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Speaker 1: because by definition, every single person has not been sincere

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Speaker 1: and everything they've ever said, So then it should either

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Speaker 1: be like an understood sincerely that just every email just

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Speaker 1: it should be like that one at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the apple thing you're like sent from my iPhone, so

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Speaker 1: might get some fucked up typos and grammatical errors. It

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Speaker 1: should just be like I'm gonna now say God bless

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Speaker 1: you once because you've been sneezing multiple times, so this

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Speaker 1: just counts, Like these emails that I send out are

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Speaker 1: sincere If you say sincerely, are we supposed to be

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Speaker 1: like hmmm, I don't I mean when people say trust me,

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Speaker 1: So I just sincerely is not necessary best? What is

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Speaker 1: that that's the best to me? You're sending me the

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Speaker 1: best to me? A lot of people have send me

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Speaker 1: emails that are not wishing me the best. I could

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Speaker 1: just tell you that right now. So I'd like to

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Speaker 1: get some authentic endings warmth. Okay, what does that mean? What?

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Speaker 1: What does that even mean? What does that have to

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Speaker 1: do with business? Warmth? And then with I've had with patience?

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Speaker 1: Smile away? What why don't you go fund yourself? That

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Speaker 1: sounds creepy and weird. Okay, smile away, Smile away. When

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing at this signature, I'm looking away, I'm smiling.

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Speaker 1: What does that even means? Smile away? With respect? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Do you think about that? Every single time? It was respectful?

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Speaker 1: Because I could tell you I send emails and they're

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Speaker 1: not necessarily always with respect. Sometimes they're with disrespect. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't respect every single person I send

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I guess this is now a public service announcement.

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Speaker 1: The more you know, be kind? Why don't we just

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Speaker 1: like rose all day, hit him straight, raining cats and dogs,

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Speaker 1: combining them with respect and frustration. Onwards and upward. What

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Speaker 1: how do you fucking know we are? It's okay, Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: onwards and upwards. I was enjoying being in a bad mood.

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Speaker 1: I you know, have PMS, menopause. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: With respect, with dignity, love, accuracy, spell check, and contempt.

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Speaker 1: Fabulous Angela. For your career, what has been the rose

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about where food has gone, what

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Speaker 1: So I love Wendy's. I'd like to get a spokesperson

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I digress as usual. So we started talking

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Speaker 1: Kale's publicists because also back in my day, Kale was

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Speaker 1: dicks dick smelling candle, next penis, the penis candle, the

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Speaker 1: ass candle, the tame candle, the crack candle, the balls candle,

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Speaker 1: that after sex candle. I mean, I want to be

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Speaker 1: anything you want. I bet you that would all work,

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Speaker 1: Like all those candles just would just work. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: Gwynne's vagina. Well, did she smell her own vagina? She

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Speaker 1: does do yoga, she does work with Tracy Anderson, So

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Speaker 1: maybe she's that's that that that's flexible, that she smells

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Speaker 1: her own vagina. But I will say something, and all

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Speaker 1: you women know your vagina doesn't smell the same every

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Speaker 1: single day. Okay, it doesn't smell the same every single day.

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Speaker 1: It smells different after certain activities. It smells different, uh,

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Speaker 1: during that time of the month, and not your vagina

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Speaker 1: doesn't smell the same all the time. And I don't

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Speaker 1: bet a bet a fifth year old vagina. How old

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Speaker 1: is Gwenna? She's forty eight years old, the middle aged woman.

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Speaker 1: And I'd like to know what a middle aged, beautiful

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Speaker 1: blonde actress slash empire owner vagina smells like. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to get the candle and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to smell one of poltres vagina and do and

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Speaker 1: see if they smell the same, because has anyone tested that.

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Speaker 1: Suzanne Summers was a spectacular interview. You have to play

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Speaker 1: your own game and just be a good person, but

443
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: you can't control what other people are thinking and doing,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're thriving. You are extremely astute. The secret sauce,

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Speaker 1: I've never thought of it that way, but that is

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Speaker 1: it messed up the recipe. I watched it, and I

447
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Speaker 1: watched the other pretty cute, dumb blonde come in and

448
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Speaker 1: it just wasn't the same. She was lovely and she

449
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Speaker 1: was fine, and that's happened, you know, in the Housewives

450
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Speaker 1: too with different people, And I'm not the Housewives is

451
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Speaker 1: not the company. I'm just making parallels that I can

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Speaker 1: actually relate to on a sa granular level. It just

453
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Speaker 1: was what it was, But that was your moment in time,

454
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Speaker 1: and had you focused more on everybody else being jealous

455
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Speaker 1: and making them feel better, you probably wouldn't have succeeded.

456
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: So then nobody's going to do well. So if you're

457
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Speaker 1: at work and you're thriving, be a team player. Be

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Speaker 1: kind to other people, but run your own race. And

459
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Speaker 1: Allen and I were such a strong team, and he

460
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Speaker 1: had He's such a visionary and he always sees everything

461
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Speaker 1: many years down the road. I remember when I opened

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Speaker 1: in Vegas and I had all the you know, the

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Speaker 1: twenties five piece orchestra and the the twelve dancers and

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Speaker 1: the ten costume change and it was such a success,

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Speaker 1: and I remember whatnot. It came off stage and he said,

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Speaker 1: I see a time when it'll just be you out

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Speaker 1: there by yourself. I thought, not when and why? And

468
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Speaker 1: now I mainly go out solo by myself. If I'm

469
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Speaker 1: your whole career seems like a solo act for sure.

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Speaker 1: If I'm doing my nightclub act like. I had a

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Speaker 1: residency in Vegas two years ago, and I loved it.

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Speaker 1: At the West Gate. I had my piano, drums, bass um,

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Speaker 1: two horns and um, incredible sounded lights and a seven

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Speaker 1: But I remember when I being out there thinking, here

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Speaker 1: I am all by myself, just as Alan always said.

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Speaker 1: But in the Three's Company days, I slash. We saw

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Speaker 1: Three's Company as a business bonanza. And I went to

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Speaker 1: the producers and I said, you know, Chrissie Snow should

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Speaker 1: be a Saturday Morning animated cartoon. Wow. And then I

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Speaker 1: went another time. I said, you know, Chrissie Snow wears

482
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Speaker 1: these distinct clothes. We should do a line of clothing.

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00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: And oh, wow is right. I'm an entrepreneur like you.

484
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: And I remember this guy, Nicky Ross got screamed at me.

485
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Speaker 1: He said, this is not about business, It's about the show.

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Speaker 1: And I saw it was called show business. The met

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Speaker 1: gala has evolved because if you look at pictures when

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Speaker 1: they flash back and you see Donna, Karen or Um,

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Hurley or someone, they wore gowns, beautiful gowns. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't so crazy until I remember, I think Rihanna broke

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Speaker 1: through with all her like real costume institute moments. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about this year's mcgala, and I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: about um, the Kardashians and j Lo and the way

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Speaker 1: they present and the evolution of it, and in some

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Speaker 1: ways it's really become this competition like these The fashion

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Speaker 1: shows are always about the designers who design and what

497
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Speaker 1: are they? Who designs the best design for these models

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Speaker 1: and muses, But there really isn't a show that is

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Speaker 1: about who's wearing the best. We do that we're sort

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Speaker 1: of the court of public opinion, judging who wore the best,

501
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: asked who wore it best, but there's no show really

502
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Speaker 1: saying it out loudly. There are people with their opinions

503
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: this person won the night, this person looked terrible, but

504
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: no one sort of really saying no, that person actually won.

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00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: So this year I thought that Kendall Jenner one. I

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Speaker 1: thought she was spectacular, extraordinary. I thought that dress was

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Speaker 1: elegant but still a moment like not safe, daring and sheer,

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Speaker 1: but so because it's pays homage to what the event

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Speaker 1: really is. And then other people do these sort of

510
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Speaker 1: clown suits, crazy things that everyone has to talk about

511
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: and thinks are amazing because you sort of don't even

512
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Speaker 1: know how to understand it. So the guy from Ship's Creek,

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Speaker 1: who I love, Daniel Levy, did this outfit that was outrageous,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know that I liked it. It just

515
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Speaker 1: was so crazy that you have to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with them lesap Rocky. He was wearing a

517
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Speaker 1: blanket like it was a blanket of pomp pomp poms

518
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: that looked like someone's grandmother made it. Like how much

519
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Speaker 1: did he pay for that? Because I get that it

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Speaker 1: was a moment, but it was a giant blank and

521
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Speaker 1: I want to snuggle in that in my house? Was

522
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Speaker 1: that not a It was a big blanket. So like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we have to be reduced to them that

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Speaker 1: we don't understand because remember that conversation that and a

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Speaker 1: wind Tour had in Devilware's product about how cerulean blue

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Speaker 1: is derivative of all these different moments. So we're you know,

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Speaker 1: if I could literally wear uh, you know, a vintage

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Speaker 1: telephone booth as a dress, and oh well yes, I

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Speaker 1: mean obviously I get it. Anybody who knows would get

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Speaker 1: why you're wearing a vintage telephone booth, but I could

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Speaker 1: just it's sort of like our you're just like fucking

532
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Speaker 1: with people. But then someone like Rihanna, it's it seems

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Speaker 1: like you do get it because she was wearing that

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Speaker 1: that beanie, that cap with diamonds, Like you know that

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Speaker 1: there was a whole narrative there, and I'm sure there

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Speaker 1: was two b asap rocky they went together. There's a story.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes it just seems like, let me wear something

538
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Speaker 1: absurd and ridiculous that's expensive and get away with it.

539
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: But I you know about fashionate about who gets invited

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Speaker 1: to the met Ball, like why does Chloe Kardashian and

541
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Speaker 1: Courtney aren't a list enough and they have a hundred

542
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: and thirty two eighty million followers. But Madison Beer, who

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00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: wore adult Chickaman, addressed that I literally have very similar

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Speaker 1: one I wore twenty years ago to a Victoria's Secret

545
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: fashion show that I bought a sample sale, and she

546
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: wore a pink version of that. So that wasn't very daring.

547
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think that she's really anyone in fashion,

548
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: but she has a ton of TikTok followers, and so

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Speaker 1: does Addison Ray, who someone said she borrowed ad justus

550
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Speaker 1: from Courtney Kardashian. So she was invited because she's an

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Speaker 1: influencer and younger. So I guess, like Chloe and Courtney

552
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: in Purgatory, they're right in the middle. They're definitely influencers,

553
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: but they're older. So this year they wanted either icons

554
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Speaker 1: or young influencers because I can't see how Addison Ray

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00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: would be there not Courtney. Um, and then Megan Fox

556
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Speaker 1: is there, and isn't she more relevant now because she's

557
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Speaker 1: in a relationship with someone that's very relevant, but didn't

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Speaker 1: She's gonna go away for a minute, so we all

559
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: don't understand exactly what is why? And guess what the HBI,

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Speaker 1: c Anna Wintour gets to decide what whether funk she wants,

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Speaker 1: She could invite whoever she wants, She could invite herkell.

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Speaker 1: That brings me to the Kardashians. Uhnkendall Jenner is a

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Speaker 1: super Kendall Jenner is a supermodel. Kylie pushes the fashion

564
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: envelope all the time. Um, but Kim in wearing that

565
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: all black ensemble, which I said yesterday they said that

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Speaker 1: Kanye and followed her, and I believe that that's sort

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00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: of some connected message to this this costume. I just

568
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: think that it's not unrelated. There's something that they're in on.

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00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: But she said herself, she always wanted to be on

570
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Speaker 1: the cover of Vogue. She's had this is goals for her.

571
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: She wanted to be invited to the met Ball one.

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Speaker 1: I think the first year she got invited because of Kanye.

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00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: Then she got invited in her own right. The next year,

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Speaker 1: Kylie was invited, Chris is invited. Courtney and Chloe are not.

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00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: That's got a bug them. They do everything the same

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Speaker 1: and everything together. But that maybe probably makes the two

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Speaker 1: sisters feel more l vated. And and but I have

578
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: to say for Kim, she has committed to this life.

579
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: Like she she she told a story. If this is

580
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be impact and theatrics and escapism, she accomplished that.

581
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Like I saw that black outfit on the stairs, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm giving her full props for being disruptive, for saying

583
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm here and I can take chances and do my

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Speaker 1: own way, and you know, own the room. And you

585
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: know a lot of people don't give them props. It

586
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: always has given props but well she's a billion dollars

587
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: bought the sex tape or well whatever, Like I'm just

588
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: giving straight up props. It takes so much work. I

589
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: for me to go to that event, I would be

590
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: planning for eleven months. I would figure out a way

591
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: to rock it. I would make it my business. But

592
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: like these girls, j Lo had been at the Venice

593
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Speaker 1: Film Festival with Ben Affleck in full regalia with diamonds everywhere.

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00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: Right before that, she was an adults a show looking

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Speaker 1: like a app like literal like brocade queen with the

596
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: craziest costume like that. That was the costume the met Gala.

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00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: That was crazy. Her outfit there was crazy than her

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00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: costume with the mec Gala. Then she goes with Ben

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Speaker 1: Affleck too Venice again, I think for his film festival.

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Speaker 1: Unless I'm mixing stories, No, I think she went back.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. She was there for Delta Gabana. Then

602
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: Ben had a thing and she went with him. Then

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Speaker 1: she went to the v m As. Then she went

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Speaker 1: to the Beck Gala and like that, like Indiana Jones outfit,

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00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: Like do you know how exhausting that is? That whole

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Speaker 1: thing dad alone, I mean, she's got kids, she's got

607
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 1: a job, she's got a relationship, she's got a mother,

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00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: she's got a house. She must I mean not that

609
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: we're coming. Nobody likes to hear like the rich complaining

610
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: about being exhausted, and she's not complaining. I'm just saying,

611
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: these people are committing to really just win, to make

612
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: a statement. And what do we all think of that?

613
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't like it. A lot of

614
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: people think there are real things going on in the world,

615
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: But that's escapism. You know, I'm the first one. I

616
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of real things going on in

617
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: the world, a lot of natural disasters, a lot of

618
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: crazy stuff and people dying. But you know, it's what.

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Speaker 1: It's escapism, and people want to see something, and so

620
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: they're putting on a show to entertain others. Us on

621
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: the other side in times of stress. I mean, that's

622
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: not their purpose. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm

623
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: not overstating they're all they all want attention, they want it,

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00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: they love it, they want to win the night. I

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00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: just think it's just an interesting conversation. Today. My guest

626
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: is Jeffrey Katzenberg. I think that day Barry hired me,

627
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: he saw someone who could go the whole distance. And

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Speaker 1: we're going to make sure that I learned and had

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Speaker 1: the experience that if I could succeed, I actually have

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Speaker 1: been equipped, trained, learned how to actually do the job.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get there because I got lucky and won

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Speaker 1: something took off fantastic. And so I've been as I said,

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Speaker 1: I've been blessed to have you know, three of those

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Speaker 1: in my career, people who were real, you know, real

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Speaker 1: mentors for me. And they weren't just around work. I

636
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: had an amazing mentor around philanthropy, which was Kirk Douglas.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a whole another story we can get

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Speaker 1: into at some point. But going back on the work

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Speaker 1: side of it. Uh, I think the thing that I

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Speaker 1: realized and I was never articulate about it in my

641
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: early years, but I did come to understand it later, um,

642
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: which is it really became sort of my um. Uh.

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00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, what would you like my mission statement?

644
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: It's real simple. It's to words exceed expectations. And what

645
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: I saw just as almost like Pavlau, right, which is,

646
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: give me an assignment, and if I did it really well,

647
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 1: the person I did it for rewarded me by either

648
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: giving me more, bigger, better, whatever those things were. And

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00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: so that of get a challenge, and it didn't matter

650
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: whether it was literally go downstairs and get coffee and Danish,

651
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: or you get a script into some person's hand or

652
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Speaker 1: go sign somebody to do it. That by exceeding expectations

653
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: of my bosses, it actually produced a great outcome time

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00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: and time and time again. And so I just kept

655
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Speaker 1: trying to always do that. And then as I sort

656
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: of got on a bit in my career, I started

657
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: to realize that, um, being in a consumer business, which

658
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Speaker 1: I well I have been for my mostly, Um, there's

659
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: the reward there is exceed the expectation of your customer.

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00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: So if you made a movie and people came to

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Speaker 1: see the movie it was better than they thought, you

662
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: had a smash. And the same thing was through of

663
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Speaker 1: a TV show, And the same thing was through of

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Speaker 1: you know, soundtrack for a movie or you know a

665
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: stuff animal or I don't care pick any of those things.

666
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: If the quality of what you somebody received and returned

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00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: for you know, uh, you know, paying for subscribing or

668
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: whatever it is, if the quality was more than they

669
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: actually expected, they became loyal to you and loyal to

670
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: your brand, and um, you know, it's just it constantly

671
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: became rewarding for me. And I then started to realize, well, okay,

672
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: you know what take that the next step? And um,

673
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I should. I'd like to try and exceed the expectations

674
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Speaker 1: of the people that I work with. Right, so, not

675
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: just the people I worked for, but actually people that

676
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: I work with every day. Are there things that I

677
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: can do so that things don't become wrote? You know,

678
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: staff meetings don't become the same all the time that

679
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, the repetition of those things, they lose their edge.

680
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: And so I always think about, you know, how do

681
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: I exceed the expectations of the people that I work with.

682
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: I know Anestasia and we've spoken about my relationship her relationship.

683
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: But you know, when you normally speak to them of

684
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: getting your eyebrows done, you're not asking them like how

685
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: you grew up, what was like in your household? It's

686
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: just weird. So we're just getting such inside information that

687
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: will give you this whole puzzle to figure out how

688
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: to create your own success and forge your own path.

689
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: We know you therefore a thousand years, but but literally

690
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: when we were both broke. Oh completely, Were you broke?

691
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Speaker 1: Like I was really broke? Were you broke broke? I'm

692
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: not that broke, but I was building the whole. I

693
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: remember when I opened the salon in on the Bedford

694
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Speaker 1: Drive in seven and Um, you came to me and

695
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Speaker 1: I wanted to have a little party. You came to

696
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Speaker 1: me like, you have to let me do your party

697
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Speaker 1: because I'm so broke. I need money and I need

698
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Speaker 1: to well have some cookies and some appetizers and drinks,

699
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: but you need to to give me this party. You

700
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: were not party planner, and there were so many other

701
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: of my clients they were in the big sins. I

702
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: was like, no, we we need to give me, bethany

703
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Um the right of first refusal because you you needed

704
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: to build your business. I mean you were such a hustler. Stop.

705
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god. But I knew you from the salon

706
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: that was above Juan Juan Salon. When was that, Yes,

707
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Speaker 1: that was in two That's when I moved to l A.

708
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: I literally was there from the beginning of your career

709
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: and vice versa. It was crazy. Yes, you were the

710
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: first one and among other people that helped me and

711
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: supported me, and um, that's why I love you forever.

712
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: I love you forever. Used to Okay, so we're gonna

713
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: get to everything. But uh, Anastasia, I heard from somebody

714
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: that she did great eyebrows, but there was not a thing.

715
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Is doing great eyebrows? Like that wasn't a thing. Now

716
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: it's a thing, the pencils, the people, This was not

717
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: a thing. So I was like, wait, I didn't even

718
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: know there was a thing. Don't forget I was. But

719
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: my friend Drew used to go there and Michelle and

720
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'm gonna go and used to give

721
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: me a deal I don't remember, probably was like six

722
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: dollars when we started out, and used to give it

723
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: to me for less God only knows. But you would

724
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: come at in your eyebrows would look different, like you

725
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't even have known that you needed to deal with

726
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: your eyebrows. And she was an eyebrow doctor, like fill

727
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: it in, thin it out, let him grow, then we'll

728
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: do this. I mean, it was a whole thing. So

729
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: but you guys, this was literally a small nothing off

730
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: like four walls and a table and her and her.

731
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: You don't understand what this is. This I have a

732
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: success story, but not even close to what we're about

733
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: to talk about, Like this is another level. This is

734
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: another level. Even from where I came from to where

735
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: I am, from where you came from to where you are,

736
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Speaker 1: We're talking about four walls and a woman and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Did I forget any of your favorite clips. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take a little bit of me holiday time, so we

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Speaker 1: will be back recording episodes no time. Have a wonderful holiday, Hm,