Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Says here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Happy New Year, y'all. Welcome
Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys inside thes WBC Mortgage Studio. It is
Speaker 1: a Wednesday, that's like a Thursday for your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's playoff week. Seahawks coming into town Saturday night at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium, Wildcard Round and we're gonna break it
Speaker 1: all down, big show today over the next hour. Rob
Speaker 1: Phillips hosting for Bill Jones. Brian brought us in, Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 1: Ken't Garrison hosting. What's up y'all? Nasty day out there.
Speaker 1: It is a nasty day. I'm sure they'll be inside today. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she got this facility for so you can go
Speaker 1: inside and practice. But a rough weather today. Yeah. If
Speaker 1: we were, if you were playing in Seattle, you might
Speaker 1: go outside and practice. This is Seattle weather. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is this is if if you if they were, if
Speaker 1: they were going up there you might want to give
Speaker 1: it a go five degrees uh cooler, and we might
Speaker 1: not all be here right now now. I make you
Speaker 1: got to find a way to make it. We would
Speaker 1: have made it, but ye, David, nobody else would have.
Speaker 1: Helma wouldn't have made it. We had this discussion calling
Speaker 1: out day from five years ago. Remember that time we
Speaker 1: got that email from Valley Ranch. I wasn't here. You
Speaker 1: were here for that one. They said, if you can't
Speaker 1: make it in, don't show up. Dave was the only
Speaker 1: one that didn't show up. The rest of us were
Speaker 1: sitting there. We took a picture around his desk, but
Speaker 1: he said, no, it's playoff games. You gotta make it here,
Speaker 1: you know. So you gotta find a way this week, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to Well, we'll find out tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'll be here. Is it gonna be bad? It's most
Speaker 1: of the snow overnight. I'm kind of looking forward. We
Speaker 1: got a big concrete area out here between the practice
Speaker 1: field and the building. Everybody bringing their hockey sticks tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's seeming a little little game going. Is this really
Speaker 1: supposed to go down? And don't you know what, I've
Speaker 1: been here all my life? No you know, one year
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl was the only time it was armageddon
Speaker 1: around here, and every one of my friends from out
Speaker 1: of town, which goes like like this all the time here,
Speaker 1: and then Super Bowl Sunday rolled in. It was like sixty.
Speaker 1: It was gorgeous day. Yeah, you know, but big hunks
Speaker 1: of ice all over the My friends are all, is
Speaker 1: this what it's like in Dallas all the time. It
Speaker 1: was just like a once in a lifetime. You've never
Speaker 1: seen it like that in thirty years. Yeah. Again, I've
Speaker 1: lived here all my life, never never have. The experience
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty was pretty bad. But here I got
Speaker 1: drawn into weather talk ten or fifteen years ago when
Speaker 1: it snowed in. It ice the street in front of
Speaker 1: our house, the whole neighborhood. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we got our hockey sticks out. Yeah, it's just got
Speaker 1: to do. Got the puck out and kind of played
Speaker 1: going down the street and a couple of people had
Speaker 1: their garbage cans overturned and they were open, So we're
Speaker 1: taking shots into the garbage can. Yeah, that's what you do.
Speaker 1: You get, you get the hockey sticks out, and you
Speaker 1: fall down a bunch hurt yourself, you know. We used
Speaker 1: to do. There's just a commercial on TV now. We
Speaker 1: used to do that when we were kids in front
Speaker 1: of the house when the ice the street would kind
Speaker 1: of freeze over and it'd be snow and packed. We
Speaker 1: had nets and we would go put the nets underneath
Speaker 1: the lights and we'd go out and play and make
Speaker 1: the cars go around us. Yeah. Interesting, that's typical, Mickey. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Don't don't, yeah, don't get in my way traffic. We
Speaker 1: got it's three to two right now, we can't stop.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, off game here. Yeah, we know the
Speaker 1: conditions inside Saturday will most likely be yeah, domed, comfortable,
Speaker 1: seventy two and dry. Yeah, exactly. So let's spend let's
Speaker 1: spend the next hour just breaking this game down. Okay,
Speaker 1: start with Let's start with the injury. What the Cowboys
Speaker 1: look like this week. Mick had their first practice of
Speaker 1: the week on Tuesday, which is a little odd, and
Speaker 1: they got two more to go. And here's the practice report,
Speaker 1: and looks like only two guys didn't practice, shocking, David
Speaker 1: Irving still out and Xavier Suaphilo missed with the ankle
Speaker 1: that he sprained. I think they were still somewhat hopeful
Speaker 1: that he'd be ready, but if not, Connor Williams turns
Speaker 1: to his starting left guard spot that he once owned,
Speaker 1: and they went about their business. And I think probably
Speaker 1: the best news was as Tyrone Crawford, who suffered the
Speaker 1: neck injury against Tampa Bay right, was back out there.
Speaker 1: And while the team was in shells when they kind
Speaker 1: of did their early part of practice, the offensive lineman
Speaker 1: and the tight ends were in pads, and he went
Speaker 1: over there and he was with seventy eight backup offensive
Speaker 1: linemen practice squad, a squad guy. Anyway, they had the
Speaker 1: pads on and they were going at it kind of
Speaker 1: like a pass rush drill and hitting to let him
Speaker 1: see what it felt like with the pads on, and
Speaker 1: he also had one of those net braced things on,
Speaker 1: and he seemed to do fine. And when he finished,
Speaker 1: he took the pads off and ran over to where
Speaker 1: the defensive linemen were and worked out. So he seemed
Speaker 1: pretty optimistic that he'd be ready to go, and that
Speaker 1: certainly would help out to have a veteran guy, because
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of veteran guys with much
Speaker 1: playoff experience on this team and everybody else Tavon Austin,
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee, Zack Martin, Tyrant Smith. They're out there and
Speaker 1: Zeke looks like he's ready to play a game, by
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, that's what he said, right, They might
Speaker 1: he might be one of those guys that they got
Speaker 1: to tie down. You know, it's like not yet, not
Speaker 1: yet yet. He said, my body feels fresh enough to
Speaker 1: play a game right now if I had to. Usually
Speaker 1: it takes him till about the weekend. Yeah, to feel
Speaker 1: like he's recovered from the previous game obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, winning the rushing title without playing a snap,
Speaker 1: you can't get any better than that last week, right,
Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty one touches for the season so far. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that worked out just fine, didn't it. They held se
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley to less than two hundred and thirty six yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all of a deal. That's what you gotta do. And actually,
Speaker 1: if not for one run, they really forty one yards
Speaker 1: down righty one yards or something like that. The different challenge,
Speaker 1: by the way, with Chris Carson this week, that'll be
Speaker 1: He's remember Chris Carson from the from the Week three
Speaker 1: matchup that he had one hundred yards rushing, but he
Speaker 1: had like thirty six carries as one of those things
Speaker 1: where he was, you know, but they were committed to
Speaker 1: trying to say, okay, dirty runs are good runs here.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you look at his last three
Speaker 1: games though, he's average right around one hundred and nineteen
Speaker 1: yards at carry, that'll be that'll be, that'll be a
Speaker 1: tough matchup for the Cowboys to have to deal with.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys played really good run defense all year, you know,
Speaker 1: and this but this this guy is this guy makes
Speaker 1: their play action game go. He really really does. And
Speaker 1: that's where I think that you know, if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can make that Russell Wilson, make him a little bit
Speaker 1: of a one dimension because they're gonna try and play
Speaker 1: action you to death. They will boot, waggles, anything to
Speaker 1: get him on the move to throw the football. But
Speaker 1: Chris Carson's a big, big part of that. So you'd
Speaker 1: start talking about playing run defense. It's gonna be used
Speaker 1: a lot of runners, but but Chris Carson is the
Speaker 1: main runner that they use. And just and since they
Speaker 1: leaked that run in the game against the Giants, it
Speaker 1: gives Rod Marinelli something to chew on this, no doubt
Speaker 1: and continue to remind them that they've got to stop
Speaker 1: the run and a lot of their running obviously Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson holding onto the ball and creates problems. He had
Speaker 1: thirty two carries for one hundred and two yards I
Speaker 1: think I just saw in that first miss Carson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they run for one hundred and eighteen. Right, They
Speaker 1: were just consistent with it. They were all really productive
Speaker 1: with they were too carried. Yeah, no, it was. It
Speaker 1: was the highest number of carries he's had all season.
Speaker 1: And so they were they were they were doing just
Speaker 1: enough to run the ball. You know. This they were
Speaker 1: coming off a game they were I want to say
Speaker 1: this was a money night game if correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong with they played the Chicago Bears two. They
Speaker 1: lost to the Bears, right, and the Bears really just
Speaker 1: physically beat them up up front. Russell Wilson took a
Speaker 1: beating in that game. And so they were coming off
Speaker 1: a game where they were just trying to protect Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer, the defensive coordinator, you know, has done a
Speaker 1: really nice job. Early in the season, they really weren't
Speaker 1: on the same page. You know, they just weren't uh
Speaker 1: you know, uh Bevil the dere Bevil, the the former
Speaker 1: OC there. He he was had a really a good
Speaker 1: rapport with Russell Wilson, and then Brian Schottenheimer came and
Speaker 1: they just really couldn't get things going early, you know,
Speaker 1: took a loss very early in the seat, a couple
Speaker 1: of losses and then the Bears loss. You know that
Speaker 1: there was a lot of question marks about about their
Speaker 1: team and could they protect, could they run the ball?
Speaker 1: They were dealing with some injuries there, you know, but
Speaker 1: they've they've really right righted the ship when it comes
Speaker 1: now to what they've doing that I mean, running the
Speaker 1: football is next to the Cowboys, that's probably the most
Speaker 1: important team, you know, as far as team in the league.
Speaker 1: Is a running game and how it makes a difference
Speaker 1: for how they play offense. They had thirty eight rushing
Speaker 1: attempts in their first two games, lost both games, right,
Speaker 1: and then they decided, our identity is going to be
Speaker 1: running the football, right, and they've almost averaged that per
Speaker 1: game and over thirty five carries in the last fourteen games.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting about their offense is some people might
Speaker 1: say it's kind of archaic. You know, you run first
Speaker 1: this league, but you know, They're putting up almost twenty
Speaker 1: seven points a game with that, and they use it
Speaker 1: to build the big play off of it because Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is always a threat to do that. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of what happened in the first game. No questions, Run, run, run,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you take a deep shot
Speaker 1: to lock it down the field. Right, He's had a
Speaker 1: great season for that. I mean, they ran at thirty
Speaker 1: nine times against the Cowboys for one hundred and eighteen yards,
Speaker 1: so they didn't even average four yards to carry. But
Speaker 1: they were persistent, got it done and caused the Cowboys
Speaker 1: some problems. And I don't know if the running caused
Speaker 1: those two touchdown passes that were busted coverage fucking a
Speaker 1: young secondary, uh and they and they blew a couple
Speaker 1: of coverages. You know, this team kind of mirrors what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did because they were after nine games sitting
Speaker 1: there at four and five. Right. Yeah, they've had oh no,
Speaker 1: they've won some they've won some games. You probably think
Speaker 1: now the fact they got Kansas City at home, that
Speaker 1: that helps, you know, I mean that played when they
Speaker 1: play at that place, it's it's we all know that,
Speaker 1: we all know what it's like to go up there
Speaker 1: and have to deal with all that, and especially in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, my gosh, it's just not a it's not
Speaker 1: a great environment to have to go up there and
Speaker 1: try and win a game at So, yeah, the teams
Speaker 1: are very mirrored in the way that they've they rely
Speaker 1: on the run, they try and play. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could go player for player here. You know, they've got
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. You've got a pass rusher. Now you've
Speaker 1: you've they've got a quarterback that's probably a little bit
Speaker 1: better than your quarterback. Your runner is better than their runner.
Speaker 1: You know, you start going offensive lineman that without you know,
Speaker 1: without Travis Frederick being in there, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you could probably go lineman for lyneman and it'd be
Speaker 1: pretty pretty even. I was going to ask you kind
Speaker 1: of where the matchups are waged, Yeah, in these two teams.
Speaker 1: Yes see, that's where, like I say, I think that
Speaker 1: there's the concern that we've always had about the ball
Speaker 1: going down the field with you know, against this Cowboys secondary.
Speaker 1: Can the Cowboys secondary you know, the one big play
Speaker 1: the bust that Mick was talking about. You and I
Speaker 1: watched it, Rob, remember it was it was a Cavon
Speaker 1: Frazier was in the game at the time, and he
Speaker 1: got he got sucked up inside and then it allowed
Speaker 1: that hole for Wilson to throw the ball right in there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean they can't. They haven't given up
Speaker 1: big plays. That's the one thing. I mean, even the
Speaker 1: day the game the other day, we thought the ball
Speaker 1: was going to go down the field. The plays the
Speaker 1: guys made were incredible one handed catches, but some of
Speaker 1: them that were too far. I mean, they were in
Speaker 1: good coverage. I just think you have to worry about
Speaker 1: the run, the run, the play action, the run, the run,
Speaker 1: and then the deep shot because they'll lay you to
Speaker 1: sleep with that and all of a sudden the ball
Speaker 1: go flying down the field on you, and you got
Speaker 1: to be ready to run with Lockett and Doug Baldwin
Speaker 1: and more and those guys, because those guys have the
Speaker 1: ability to get down the field and make plays. And
Speaker 1: that's what happened when they beat Kansas City. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a bunch of deep throws down the field that
Speaker 1: they made these highlight catches against. Yeah, you wouldn't say,
Speaker 1: okay that that ball's thrown away and Baldwin goes up
Speaker 1: and grabs the ball absolutely against the Chiefs and they
Speaker 1: ended up scoring thirty eight points against the Chiefs. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they won six of their last seven. The Cowboys won
Speaker 1: seven of their last state So, um, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a neat collision. By the way, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: mentioned the young secondary with this team, where do you
Speaker 1: think they've grown? Maybe since that game, I think they've
Speaker 1: made fewer busted coverage mistakes. For one, I think they've
Speaker 1: attacked the ball a lot better. Remember when they played
Speaker 1: that game, Xavier Woods was playing his starting his third game.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's you know, and think about he missed the
Speaker 1: first two games of the season. So was that that
Speaker 1: was his debut? Yeah, oh that's right, Yeah that was
Speaker 1: his first one. So think about that. Um, think about
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. That was just his third at corner since
Speaker 1: his rookie year. Uh. Remember Xavier Wood, I'm not would
Speaker 1: chitabe Owoozier. You know he only had started like four
Speaker 1: games last year. Sure, now he's at corner. Uh. And
Speaker 1: what happened that Frazier had did he get hurt for
Speaker 1: a while Frazier had to go in It was I
Speaker 1: think there was like a collision that if I remember correct,
Speaker 1: there was a collision that Heath had to go out
Speaker 1: of the game for that. Yeah, I got nicked up.
Speaker 1: They're a player too. Yeah, and that's why Frasier Frasier
Speaker 1: winning the game, right, was in there, so yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was That was a pretty young secondary out
Speaker 1: there and Antoine Woods playing in the middle, right, and
Speaker 1: he hadn't played that much in the NFL prior to
Speaker 1: those games. So yeah, this this team kind of grew. Right,
Speaker 1: he's playing football for the first time in two years.
Speaker 1: Remember Layton Vanderish as well that you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee was in there for you know, he was
Speaker 1: the starter along and Jalen Smith. You know, joh don't
Speaker 1: think Jalen Smith was completely healthy. I think it's the
Speaker 1: season's gone along that he's become more confident, become more healthy,
Speaker 1: and you know that's so Yeah, this is really a
Speaker 1: different deep It's different from the Seattle's perspective of how
Speaker 1: they're playing. I mean, they're gonna have no Earl Thomas
Speaker 1: in this game. You know, Brad Bradley McDougall has done
Speaker 1: a pretty nice job. You know, Tom Mpson has done
Speaker 1: a nice job for them as far as uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they've they've kind of had to. They're getting him back.
Speaker 1: He's been nicked up a little bit, but overall, I
Speaker 1: mean the safety play has been good, the corner play
Speaker 1: has been good for him too, And they've got two
Speaker 1: really good linebackers, you know. When you talk about Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner and kJ Wright, I mean, it's like the Cowboys again.
Speaker 1: You could go player for player and say, okay, wash
Speaker 1: wash wash, Okay, they got an advantage. Okay, you've got
Speaker 1: an advantage. It's a very The team is very very
Speaker 1: Both teams are very similar. I think if you looked overall,
Speaker 1: you would say, I'll take the Dallas's defensive line, the
Speaker 1: front four over what Seattle has. But you know, linebackers,
Speaker 1: you could say, wow, okay, like I said, is it
Speaker 1: did you take Jalen Smith? Did you take vander esh
Speaker 1: over Wagner and Wright? You know, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's you know, maybe the Seattle secondary. When you
Speaker 1: think about the Griffin and Flowers playing corner, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: is that a good matchup? Would you take a Woozier
Speaker 1: in Jones? I mean, you obviously would take Jones, But
Speaker 1: there's a side of me that says that Griffin is
Speaker 1: just as good as a Woozier and Flowers. You know
Speaker 1: that might be a wash right there. So it is,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's as even as you're gonna get in
Speaker 1: a matchup for two teams in the playoffs. And while
Speaker 1: they've got it looks like Thompson's coming back, they're putting
Speaker 1: Delane o' hill, who had Deck in his spot on
Speaker 1: IR Yeah so, and by golly, they don't have the
Speaker 1: NFC Offensive Player of the Week on their team either. No,
Speaker 1: they don't. Mick Who is that? Uh some guy named
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin. It's incredible. I think it's numbers eighty nine.
Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you when Seattle starts looking at film, they're
Speaker 1: gonna know eighty nine, but they're not gonna know his name. Well,
Speaker 1: I looked up I watched back the first game yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I looked up his snap count at Seattle twelve
Speaker 1: place one target and it was at the end. It
Speaker 1: was the juggle play where we looked at it and
Speaker 1: they really didn't have a chance at it, and Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas got that pick and sealed the game and bowed
Speaker 1: to the crowd, and uh yeah, all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a new dimension for the Cowboys, maybe especially
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Maybe it's another guy that defenses
Speaker 1: have to think about down there. Well. If not, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to practice for it. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to spend some time. We're about the tight end this week.
Speaker 1: We're not play cover two down there. Yeah, that can
Speaker 1: get lost. Yeah in cover two, Yeah, he's he's he's
Speaker 1: done it. You know. But I was talking about, you
Speaker 1: know what he was in Cover two and I can't
Speaker 1: remember which of the three touch he had so many touchdowns,
Speaker 1: I can't He had the one where he veered away
Speaker 1: where the coverage was and he found the open spot right,
Speaker 1: and it was like, huh, look at that. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: we we found out that he had to go back
Speaker 1: to Billy Joe Duprie for the last tight end to
Speaker 1: catch three touchdown passes in a game. I wonder if
Speaker 1: they've ever had an undrafted rookie. Well, not, he's a
Speaker 1: first to your player, but an undrafted guy catched three
Speaker 1: touchdowns like that as a tight I guess probably not
Speaker 1: as a tight end, right, Not as a tight end,
Speaker 1: because if you have to go back to Billy Joe
Speaker 1: dupri that's seventy three. Yeah, Michigan State Rights, Michigan State. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was thinking to me, it's it's it's a great
Speaker 1: it's a great story. You know, us visit. Somebody was
Speaker 1: on their way home, stopped by, was in our area
Speaker 1: and guy stopped by his talking. We were talmabout the
Speaker 1: tight end play and he goes, you know, he goes,
Speaker 1: it's funny about Jarwen. He goes, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: times where Jarwin has been open. He has been open,
Speaker 1: and they just there's been no confidence in getting him
Speaker 1: the ball. There's that that know that you know, none
Speaker 1: of that. But he but he's made some plays the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks and now it's kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: throw him the ball, you know, throw him the ball,
Speaker 1: allow him to do some things that he's capable of doing.
Speaker 1: And the guy was like, you know, its just he
Speaker 1: was open. I've been watching him. He's been getting open,
Speaker 1: but it's just you know, we're just not seeing him
Speaker 1: the results of him getting up. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: like Cole Beasley. You see Cole Beasley get open, they
Speaker 1: just don't throw him the ball, you know, And that
Speaker 1: happens to some guys. I mean, I got a discussion
Speaker 1: with the guy yesterday about Amari Cooper, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: how different would have Mariy Cooper's game been if they'd
Speaker 1: hit the two slugos right and two touchdowns, he would
Speaker 1: have had over or he'd had over one hundred yards
Speaker 1: in receptions. But the narrative is that his production has dropped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would have had he would had seven catches, two
Speaker 1: touchdowns and one hundred yards and we would all said, oh,
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper's back. But you know, sometimes you run really
Speaker 1: good routes and the quarterback doesn't find you, or he
Speaker 1: misses you, or you know that these are these are
Speaker 1: things when we start to say, Okay, what's wrong with
Speaker 1: this guy? Maybe, I say with Blake Jarwin, now it's
Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe there is that confidence that, Okay, I
Speaker 1: could throw it to him down the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: he's going to make a play. Yeah, because he's doing
Speaker 1: a better job of finishing plays himself. Yeah. Absolutely, he'd
Speaker 1: dropping onto the ball, yeah, drops yeah, or not getting
Speaker 1: hit and having the ball come out yeah yeah. And
Speaker 1: a little bit of that narrative on him not getting
Speaker 1: the ball thrown to him. I can't remember which it
Speaker 1: was one of the last two games. Three games, Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner did a diagram deal and showed how he was
Speaker 1: opened across the middle and Dak chose to go underneath.
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, that's easy. When you're watching the
Speaker 1: All twenty two, right, you don't know what the quarterback
Speaker 1: sees and what he was expecting. But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: On those deep balls to Cooper, Yeah, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: that they didn't hit because Seattle's got to look at
Speaker 1: that and go, Okay, we can't take the chance that
Speaker 1: they're gonna miss connections on that. Now, there's always there's
Speaker 1: always going to be the Maury Cooper. I never worry
Speaker 1: about a Murray Cooper having a slump because a Maury
Speaker 1: Cooper can run routes no matter what you throw at him.
Speaker 1: He can run routes. He could separate. He knows how
Speaker 1: to do that. There's a lot of guys in this
Speaker 1: league that if they have two or three good games
Speaker 1: and teams figure out how to stop them, they don't
Speaker 1: have a they don't have an answer for how to
Speaker 1: run a route to get open. Now, I could see
Speaker 1: a Marie getting a little frustrated. I mean, he runs
Speaker 1: two really good slugos, the slanting goes and is open.
Speaker 1: But you got to think about what's happened in the
Speaker 1: pocket the second throw at the end of the game
Speaker 1: I was talking about I'd like to but it looked
Speaker 1: like that Redman stepped on or brushed Dack's front foot
Speaker 1: as he's throwing the ball. So you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that go into the pocket being clean
Speaker 1: with the quarterback sees. But as long as these guys
Speaker 1: are running routes to where they're getting open Blake Jarwin,
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper, Michael Gallop, Cole Beasley. My confidence level
Speaker 1: is high that this team can move the football. It's
Speaker 1: when they get shut down. And I think Todd Archer
Speaker 1: asked the question yesterday that they've only had they've had
Speaker 1: one touchdown drive in the last three times that they played. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna go there after you gonna hold it
Speaker 1: there absolutely, just because yeah, because there is not great
Speaker 1: history against this team in the regular season right the
Speaker 1: last few years. Is there any commonality there? Let's talk
Speaker 1: about that when we come back on talking Cowboys or
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Speaker 1: We got LSU on over there. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't win the national championship. Brian, where's his all
Speaker 1: the time? He's got my school pride, the stamp and
Speaker 1: camp on today. That's real quick. I don't want to
Speaker 1: devolve into college football talk, but you guys put the
Speaker 1: rest the Cinderella talk. I think that's over now. So
Speaker 1: they I mean we got an we got an ant
Speaker 1: certain I kind of I'm glad we haven't breading their
Speaker 1: teeth though to the very last second. You know, it's
Speaker 1: hard about that though. They've about killed our quarterback. We
Speaker 1: need a dispatchulor to get him off the field. Was
Speaker 1: kind of scary. The uh, okay, so tough. The the
Speaker 1: thing you know, the thing about LSU had lost. I mean,
Speaker 1: so many defenders down gone, whatever however you want to say,
Speaker 1: but really, if you look at Central Florida. Them losing
Speaker 1: that quarterback hurt them. It really did that that that
Speaker 1: you know that that's hard to play football when your
Speaker 1: quarterback is not capable of playing well and their quarterback
Speaker 1: didn't play well. Yeah, then I again, Hey, I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: did you all have ejected? Yeah, no, ejected, going to
Speaker 1: the pros, whatever, sitting out for targeting, whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's proud of LSU for the way they played yesterday.
Speaker 1: All right, diving back into Cowboys and Hawks, you brought
Speaker 1: up a good point and a question I think Todd
Speaker 1: Archer brought up in the President Rich yesterday. They haven't
Speaker 1: had a lot of success against Seattle the last few years,
Speaker 1: and haven't had a lot of success offensively specific They
Speaker 1: played played each other last year on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 1: I believe that was Zeke's first game back from suspension,
Speaker 1: and they only put up twelve points. I don't think
Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown in that game. What was how
Speaker 1: many touchdowns? Is it in the last few meetings. One. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so again, the guys that played in those other two
Speaker 1: games aren't the ones playing twenty fifteen. Yeah. Not only
Speaker 1: did Tony Romo not play, Dak Prescott didn't play, Zeke
Speaker 1: didn't play. Who was I throw that? I think it
Speaker 1: was Weedon right? Right? Was it that early in the
Speaker 1: seame that was that castle? I don't know. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I guess you could look at the last two games,
Speaker 1: the one earlier this season and the one last year,
Speaker 1: and try to figure out what Seattle is doing to
Speaker 1: limit them, especially because Zeke played in both those games. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he hadn't played in six weeks. Well, I remember
Speaker 1: when he was coming back. It was, well, he's fresh
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go. They're gonna win this game and
Speaker 1: go the playoffs. Yeah, that was the narrative. You know.
Speaker 1: I think that we talk about this though, when when
Speaker 1: you look at these two teams, it's really about how
Speaker 1: even they are, how evenly matched they are. You know,
Speaker 1: they're they're Seattle's course is going to present some problems.
Speaker 1: I don't think Seattle is once the team that it
Speaker 1: once was. That sounds funny the way I said it,
Speaker 1: but you know, with you look at the secondary with
Speaker 1: the Richard Shermans and the cam Chancellors and the Earl Thomas's,
Speaker 1: and all those guys are all now gone. I mean
Speaker 1: you still have the stalwarts of of kJ Wright and
Speaker 1: Wagner and those guys. I mean this defensive line, I
Speaker 1: think playing I think playing at that at that that
Speaker 1: stadium is an incredible advantage for them rushing the passer.
Speaker 1: I'll be really interested to see if they have the
Speaker 1: same success, if Frank clark and and Dion Jordan and
Speaker 1: Jacob Martin and those guys have the same success rush
Speaker 1: in the passer, because it's clearly an advantage to them.
Speaker 1: You know. I think Mickey was going through the thing
Speaker 1: that they've struggled on the road to look this year,
Speaker 1: haven't they, Mackey? And that where their their losses have
Speaker 1: come with the Rams they lost at Denver? Where else today?
Speaker 1: They did? They beat Carolina? Was that game played at Carolina? Though?
Speaker 1: It was okay? They lost three yeahs at San Francisco.
Speaker 1: At San Francisco. Yeah, so they've they they've they've had
Speaker 1: their It's it's really two mirrored teams. And I think
Speaker 1: Mickey's right on this one. I think that the players
Speaker 1: you have now are different. You know, I think I
Speaker 1: think a MARII Cooper this time around makes a big
Speaker 1: difference for you. You know, Cole Beasley seems to be
Speaker 1: getting back into form. You know, early in the year
Speaker 1: he was and then you got a Mari and things
Speaker 1: kind of went away. But you know, and hey, I personally,
Speaker 1: I think if Connor Williams has to play, that's not
Speaker 1: going to be a detriment, where in Week three it
Speaker 1: was a detriment. You know, I think Connor Williams now
Speaker 1: better under understands what he needs to do to play
Speaker 1: in these games, and how to survive these games and
Speaker 1: how to you know, it's it's not easy. You know.
Speaker 1: He had some really some some games where he was
Speaker 1: struggling with his technique and his power and now it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: if I'm not strong enough, this is how I have
Speaker 1: to play. He's gonna ask you that, because Joe Looney,
Speaker 1: it's center think about all the things that they've kind
Speaker 1: of gone through now to to get to this point
Speaker 1: that they didn't have to do the first time they played.
Speaker 1: Because it's interesting. We got a mail back question about
Speaker 1: Connor Williams today, and it's he's playing better since he's
Speaker 1: been back on the right side, which he has no
Speaker 1: experience playing. Yeah, and it's not like he came back
Speaker 1: off the nie scope and all of a sudden got
Speaker 1: a ton stronger. Right, it's technique in terms of I
Speaker 1: don't know left Yeah, I know those things. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I still I want to still play with Sue
Speaker 1: of Philo there at the at the left guard spot,
Speaker 1: because when he's been healthy, he's been Yes, he's been solid. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't play great Mick one of those games. I
Speaker 1: think it might have been the Saints game and he
Speaker 1: had he had the ankle then. Yeah, but he's been
Speaker 1: in healthy, he's been He's added some power and strength
Speaker 1: I think into that line. And I think he added
Speaker 1: a little bit of understanding of guys starting passed off
Speaker 1: and just experience. Right, I mean, this guy's he should
Speaker 1: have been playing last night in the Sugar Bowl. See
Speaker 1: this is where this is where think about that. This
Speaker 1: is gonna sound funny to say, but I feel like, though,
Speaker 1: if you keep continuity at guard next to Tyren Smith,
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith's a better player and and and I know
Speaker 1: you know you're you're talking about a guy. It's an
Speaker 1: All Pro player, a Pro Bowl player. But when you
Speaker 1: when you get in these type of games where you're having,
Speaker 1: like Mickey said, you're having to pass stunts, and this
Speaker 1: is a team that's gonna twist your front. They're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna move. They're not strong enough to play toe
Speaker 1: to toe with you. They're gonna try and move. They're
Speaker 1: gonna try and get you off balance. They're gonna bring linebackers.
Speaker 1: They're gonna test you in every way they can with
Speaker 1: your scheme and your protection. And what I want to
Speaker 1: do is I'd like to see them keep things consistent.
Speaker 1: For for Tyron Smith. I think Tyren Smith struggles more
Speaker 1: with a new guy next to him than anybody else
Speaker 1: in that offensive line. That is, I think he's he
Speaker 1: I've got this vision of a couple plays yeah and
Speaker 1: he and he ends up being hesitant, like am I
Speaker 1: trusting him? And then he doesn't take exactly what Tyren
Speaker 1: Smith is a Tyren Smith is a natural football player.
Speaker 1: When things are like Okay, my guy, my guy, my guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he's one of those guys. You know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm kicking Frank Clark. He's my guy, he's my guy,
Speaker 1: you know, And now all of a sudden they twist
Speaker 1: the front and they're like, Okay, I'm passing my guy.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be there? Are you ready for my guy?
Speaker 1: You know, well, I'm gonna take your guy or and
Speaker 1: you'll see them. No man, a lot of stunts too,
Speaker 1: just because that's technique wise, that's what they'll do. But
Speaker 1: I think that he's the one guy that struggles the most.
Speaker 1: And I know, I mean struggling, like he's getting like
Speaker 1: he's like he's a Chaz Green struggling. I mean, he
Speaker 1: just struggles with that in his in his mind thinking Okay,
Speaker 1: I've got to I've got to block this guy, or
Speaker 1: I've got to pass this guy, or that guy's not
Speaker 1: gonna be on the okay on the backside cut off,
Speaker 1: I've you know, I've got to get that. You know.
Speaker 1: It's just those are the things I just think with Sue,
Speaker 1: and you know, they've had a great combination with him
Speaker 1: and Sue Philo in there. You know, Sue Philo is
Speaker 1: not great, But you have to run over Sue of
Speaker 1: Philo to get to the ball. You know, that's in
Speaker 1: a big body. When you run over a you have
Speaker 1: to run over a big body. Sometimes you don't always
Speaker 1: get there. And I think that I think that Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith has really grown comfortable with Sue of Philo playing
Speaker 1: inside of him. It's kind of like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like what you do with him and Ron Larry were
Speaker 1: a great combination together because he trusted Ron Larry that
Speaker 1: Ron was not if something happened to him, that Ron
Speaker 1: was going to be there to pick up the pieces.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he really trusted Connor Wood to
Speaker 1: do that, you know, you know that the rookie and
Speaker 1: all that, you know, And that's what they had problems
Speaker 1: against the Colts. Yeah, because the Colts wanted to move everything. Now.
Speaker 1: I was told before the game, this is what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do. Now, are we good enough to pick up
Speaker 1: all the little stunts and they're gonna move on us?
Speaker 1: And they weren't. Yeah, it could happen. It could happen
Speaker 1: against Seattle too. Yeah, that's the that's the the nightmare
Speaker 1: about playing these guys, especially if they get you in
Speaker 1: a situation where they're having to where they get to
Speaker 1: get the rush the passer, you know, where where teams
Speaker 1: where they've where they've had some problems. When you watch
Speaker 1: teams run the ball, we talk about get them moving
Speaker 1: one way and then go the ball back the other way.
Speaker 1: Teams have had success getting them to go one way
Speaker 1: and like the counters and things like that where they
Speaker 1: pull lineman. Watch if you watch the Kansas City game.
Speaker 1: Kansas Cities are really good with their running attack the
Speaker 1: way it is and it needs to be even better
Speaker 1: before that guy got suspended. But they Kansas City pulls
Speaker 1: the center, pull the guards, they pull the tackle, they'll
Speaker 1: pull a tight end, you know, they'll do a lot
Speaker 1: of things to kind of create angle blocks, down blocks,
Speaker 1: and then get guys on the edge. This is a
Speaker 1: game planned if you're the Cowboys and you're thinking about,
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Looney getting out front, Martin getting out front.
Speaker 1: Now maybe not Sue Philo as much. Williams is surely
Speaker 1: get out front guy. But that's this is where I
Speaker 1: have a feeling. What you're gonna see the Cowboys trying
Speaker 1: to do is get the ball on the edge. You know,
Speaker 1: get the ball with e Zekiellet start it one way
Speaker 1: and then get the flow and then trap everybody to
Speaker 1: the inside and then get guys on the edge and
Speaker 1: then make their linebackers have to run. Their linebackers are capable,
Speaker 1: but if you get them flowing one way and then
Speaker 1: now get up on top of them second level, then
Speaker 1: you can get the ball out to the outside. By
Speaker 1: the way, I don't think Tyrn Smith he played one
Speaker 1: series last Christmas Eve. In that game he had the
Speaker 1: back thing and then he yeah, but you know, he
Speaker 1: talked about it. He needs some consistency. He's had a
Speaker 1: lot of different left guards he's been playing with. That's
Speaker 1: some problems. That's a job Cooper. Last year, Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: before he moved to tackle a couple of different guys.
Speaker 1: This year, it's been Yeah, it's been an adjustment for him.
Speaker 1: Yron Bell Yon Bell, Yeah, I mean, you know Redman,
Speaker 1: I mean he's had to deal with some guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no question this is you know, this is one
Speaker 1: of those things where you don't you know that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have had some success over the years because it's
Speaker 1: been the same generally, the same five guys. When even
Speaker 1: when Doug Free was playing right tackle, it's kind of
Speaker 1: the same guys. Chas Green playing a little guard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple, yeah, a couple of a couple of times
Speaker 1: that's right. Started last year. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: all right. Tyron Smith's a great player. The problem is,
Speaker 1: though Tyron Smith, I don't know his confidence factor with
Speaker 1: you know, he won't admit it, you know, he wouldn't,
Speaker 1: but deep down in his heart he has to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass this guy to Connor Williams. I hope
Speaker 1: he's there. I hope he's ready, you know, whereas before
Speaker 1: you just pass guys, you don't even think, you just
Speaker 1: pass them. And one other thing about difference with this
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense in the previous two games. Obviously Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: brings a different dimension. Yeah, they were Week three, they
Speaker 1: were trying to sort out just snaps rotation with their
Speaker 1: wide receivers. It didn't work. The committee, Yeah, the committee.
Speaker 1: It didn't work. And that's and that's why he's here.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's that's something you got to
Speaker 1: keep in mind. This is a guy that and what
Speaker 1: you're seeing is he's making things easier for other guys
Speaker 1: to Michael Gallup Colby, no question, they're showing up like
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns. Yeah, Alan Hearns had a big catch and
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, you know, and to me, the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks better. The quarterback has been better because of this.
Speaker 1: You know, the quarterback in Week three. You know, I
Speaker 1: think the quarterbacks playing really well right now. I mean
Speaker 1: you look at the you know, you look at the
Speaker 1: lat with seven last eight they've won, right I don't
Speaker 1: think you could sit there and say that. I mean,
Speaker 1: the quarterback has had issues at times, but you know not,
Speaker 1: I mean earliest season, the three and five, more issues
Speaker 1: then now he's playing a lot better. You look at
Speaker 1: his quarterback rating earlier, and it was in the low eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he finished at ninety six nine, and he was less
Speaker 1: than one point away from being better than some guy
Speaker 1: named Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers. They were less than one
Speaker 1: point better than him. Yeah. Now check this out. Who
Speaker 1: do you think was the leading receiver against Seattle? Probably
Speaker 1: one of the backs, probably Elliott Jeff Swain five catches
Speaker 1: for forty seven yards. Beasley had three for forty six,
Speaker 1: Elliot three for eleven, Austin three for two, some guy
Speaker 1: named Thompson, yeah, two for three, Hearns two for twenty two,
Speaker 1: Gallop one for seventeen. Yeah, there was your committee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the committee wasn't getting it done. Oh that's where Mickey
Speaker 1: put made up the point about the committee's the other day.
Speaker 1: Committees aren't good. Yeah, but I'm just saying that. You know,
Speaker 1: to me, there seems to be a better pattern for them,
Speaker 1: a better a better pattern of how they want to
Speaker 1: distribute the ball. You know, if it's Gallop on the
Speaker 1: double moves, if it's if it assume, if it's a
Speaker 1: Cooper on the double moves, if it's Gallops on the digs,
Speaker 1: if it's Beasley underneath, if it's a check down to Elliott.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, wait a minute, they've got they've got
Speaker 1: a Schultz is gonna get a waggle for twenty Oh
Speaker 1: wait a minute, we can throw a cover two beater
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field against with now, with
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin, there's there's there's more problems for teams to
Speaker 1: have to deal with more. Okay, if you play this,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with this. Okay, can you
Speaker 1: take this away? You know, if the Cowboys line can
Speaker 1: hold up, they can make plays. We've seen when this
Speaker 1: guy gets protect he can make play. He can make throws,
Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes even when he rolls out of
Speaker 1: the pocket. He can make throws. I mean, you're not
Speaker 1: going to find a better throw than that touchdown pass
Speaker 1: he had to Beasley. I will, he might not ever
Speaker 1: have one in his career that's that good, especially on
Speaker 1: the run and going to his last left, yeah, which
Speaker 1: he could do and the throw against his body with
Speaker 1: pressure yea, by the way. Yeah, So it's it's a
Speaker 1: they're different and you're different. That's but player for player,
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Speaker 1: a pilot. I said, the last two hours, I've talked football,
Speaker 1: and you've and I haven't talked to anything about. He goes,
Speaker 1: you know, what's funny, He goes, I'm underwater for three months.
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm all three months, I'm underwater for three months.
Speaker 1: He goes, I never get to talk football, goes, you
Speaker 1: don't know how much I appreciate you letting me talk
Speaker 1: football with you today. But it's kind of like, who's
Speaker 1: got the cooler job? Man, he had the far cooler job.
Speaker 1: They think about being underwater for three months, three months?
Speaker 1: He you know, He says, well, it's funny. They play games.
Speaker 1: They play like they play hide and seek with submarines.
Speaker 1: So like they'll be like cruising around and they'll hide
Speaker 1: behind an ice cap, you know, like down in the
Speaker 1: hide and they'll just gotta wait and they'll go by
Speaker 1: and they'll go behind him, you know, but they play.
Speaker 1: That's what they do. He says. We, you know, we
Speaker 1: were always preparing for things that can happen. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's drives a Dallas Class us USS Nebraska attacks sub.
Speaker 1: I drive in nuclear power attacks sub. Yeah, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: like wait a minute, and then the plane is like
Speaker 1: coming there. I'm like wait a minute, wait, I'm asking questions.
Speaker 1: So we got any questions questions, questions as would have
Speaker 1: been next to a guy flew to the moon. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd recognize those guys. There you go, I recognize those astronauts.
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Yeah, all right, Lee in Atlanta. You're still there, Hotully,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Didn't mean to jump on you. There,
Speaker 1: no problem, guys, happened. New Year, Happy new New Year.
Speaker 1: Ranks up. I will be quick U just real quick, guys.
Speaker 1: A couple of things about um, kind of in response
Speaker 1: to what Brian was just saying about the tight ends
Speaker 1: being open. I think what I've seen this year and
Speaker 1: Swain started to do it is that our tight ends
Speaker 1: were running in and out of coverage. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of Dak strows that look like they were behind guys,
Speaker 1: even the one soles this past Sunday. It's because the
Speaker 1: tight ends weren't sitting down in open areas, you know,
Speaker 1: like wenton did forever. Yeah, And so although they may
Speaker 1: have seemed open, I don't think DAK was seeing them
Speaker 1: in the same way they were seeing Dak. And I
Speaker 1: think it's taken pretty much all season to kind of
Speaker 1: get there. The second thing I saw in this past
Speaker 1: game in the red zone, which was a great wrinkle
Speaker 1: was putting Amari Cooper in the flot with him in
Speaker 1: the slot with a two way go on the inside,
Speaker 1: That's really gonna open up the opposite side tight end
Speaker 1: because every time you know, Cooper would run across, that
Speaker 1: safety would jump right on him. And then I mean
Speaker 1: our tight ends, no matter who it is, is going
Speaker 1: to be wide open. And then we add Zeke out
Speaker 1: the backfield. From that, I think I think our red
Speaker 1: zone woes are covered. And then just one more thing
Speaker 1: for you guys, da is if you agree with me
Speaker 1: that Dez Bryant wasn't a number one receiver his last
Speaker 1: year in Dallas, dak is twenty and six with a
Speaker 1: true number one wide receiver twenty and six. Now I'll
Speaker 1: leave you guys with that happy New Year ago Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for the call. So as he's going
Speaker 1: back a couple of years sixteen. Yeah, that's interesting. It
Speaker 1: helps to have a guy that's always open. Well, it
Speaker 1: just helps to have great players. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean anything you can do and no offense to the
Speaker 1: receiver's by committee. But Cole Beasley was carrying your team
Speaker 1: as receivers by committee and he was productive until Beasley,
Speaker 1: and he's still been productive at times, less targets, but yes,
Speaker 1: he was doing a nice job in his role. Yes before, Yes,
Speaker 1: God here, I think that there's something too having a
Speaker 1: guy that a can run routes and be finish, you know,
Speaker 1: And they and they had too many guys by the
Speaker 1: committee that just they could run routes, but could they finish.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're putting a lot on Michael Gallop.
Speaker 1: Now we're all we're all sitting there saying, play Michael Gallup,
Speaker 1: Play Michael Gallop. You play Michael Gallup. Because now you've
Speaker 1: got Michael Gallop. Now you're thinking, okay, now you got
Speaker 1: something here. But in week three or a week two,
Speaker 1: you're like thinking, oh, Michael Gallup, he can't get off
Speaker 1: the jam here, you know. And now you're asking a
Speaker 1: quarterback to have to throw the ball to a rookie
Speaker 1: who's not really comfortable with what he's doing. And so
Speaker 1: I I like what the callers saying there. I think
Speaker 1: anytime that you can have I think they learned their lesson. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they learned their lesson about the receiver by committee, and
Speaker 1: they said, hey, we've got to do something different here.
Speaker 1: We gotta go get a guy. They went and got
Speaker 1: a guy. They went and got a number one receiver,
Speaker 1: a difference maker. I mean, as many difference makers as
Speaker 1: you can get on that field is going to help
Speaker 1: your team win the football game. You know. The other
Speaker 1: thing they resurrected against the Giants as they started lining
Speaker 1: up Beasley wide, that there was a couple of plays
Speaker 1: he out wide, and we hadn't seen that in a
Speaker 1: while because it's been Gallop and Cooper Cooper, and you know,
Speaker 1: he made a good point about moving Cooper into the
Speaker 1: slot and you put Beasley outside, Now, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Well, they did tell us. Another one they
Speaker 1: got into was what they call, oh one personnel, let's
Speaker 1: just no backs and one tight end, and they put
Speaker 1: they put Austin in a slot and they put Beasley
Speaker 1: in the slot. And if you remember it was a
Speaker 1: third down play, what they did do they both ran
Speaker 1: those pivot routes where they go inside and then break outside. Well,
Speaker 1: it just so happened that they stretched the Giants horizontally,
Speaker 1: which made a linebacker have to go get over the
Speaker 1: top of Austin. Well, okay, where's Prescott gonna throw the ball.
Speaker 1: But those those the ball to Austin, you know, ten
Speaker 1: yard game, first down, move the sticks, which we saw
Speaker 1: a lot of in training camp. Yeah, Tavon got hurt exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh what happened exactly in the slot. Yeah. See that's
Speaker 1: where I think that again, Give me as many of
Speaker 1: playmakers as I can give me. Put Beasy on the field,
Speaker 1: Put Austin on the field, Put Gallop on the field,
Speaker 1: you know, put Cooper on the field. Hell, put Jarwin
Speaker 1: on the field. You know, put as many guys. If
Speaker 1: protection can hold up, you will find somebody open out
Speaker 1: of four guys. I mean, they're not going to cover
Speaker 1: them all. Somebody will be open as long as he's
Speaker 1: got time and as long as he's got time. And
Speaker 1: they had been blitzing and blitzing well, so they spread
Speaker 1: them out with five wide and and least you can
Speaker 1: see where the blitz was coming from. Absolutely, And then
Speaker 1: when they were still having trouble with it, it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we don't need a running back out there. Yeah, Ola, Wally,
Speaker 1: you you just stand there in the block. Even if
Speaker 1: it's third down. It wasn't like they were somebody brought up.
Speaker 1: Oh they were using the fullback more. No, they were
Speaker 1: using an extra blocker, extra blocker pick up the blitzes,
Speaker 1: somebody that they trusted. Yeah, not Darius Jackson. Ball. Oh
Speaker 1: he got destroyed. He got one of one of the
Speaker 1: one of the blocks and it affected the way they
Speaker 1: threw the ball because he got just destroyed on what
Speaker 1: he tried to slide over on a blitz pick up
Speaker 1: and got just rocked. And you're like going, Okay, don't
Speaker 1: need that happen. Don't need a number twenty six ending
Speaker 1: up in the quarterbacks lap, you know, trying to throw
Speaker 1: the ball. That's not good. You like what Lee was
Speaker 1: saying about the tight ends too, Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: opening things up a little bit. Yeah, but that but Garrett, Garrett,
Speaker 1: I should have been smart enough to listen, you know,
Speaker 1: nine weeks ago, ten weeks ago, whenever when he said,
Speaker 1: you know, whenever, how long is how many how many
Speaker 1: games has Swaying missed? Has he missed? What? Five? Six?
Speaker 1: Seven games? How many games he missed? Now? Then it's
Speaker 1: about seven seven games, seven games ago. Jason Garrett was
Speaker 1: telling us in a walk off, He's like, goes, guys
Speaker 1: just need experience. They need experience. They need to play,
Speaker 1: they need to be out there playing, and you know,
Speaker 1: and and and I think you're seeing the benefit of that.
Speaker 1: Now Rico Gathers isn't a disaster like he was in
Speaker 1: training camp, you know. And now you've got guys got
Speaker 1: You've got Blake Jarwin making plays, making big plays. You know,
Speaker 1: Dalted Schultz, Dualted Schultz blocking like he did at Stanford.
Speaker 1: You know, I was waiting all year long. I was thinking, oh, heck, well,
Speaker 1: just throw Dalton Schultz in there and let him, let
Speaker 1: him block. It's it's taken some adjustment for him to
Speaker 1: have to block minus six okay, six games. He got
Speaker 1: hurt against Atlanta, Yeah, six, that's right. It was a
Speaker 1: sideline that threw it to the end of the game
Speaker 1: there at the final two minute, the game winning drive.
Speaker 1: He got hurt. And that's a good point about jar
Speaker 1: Schultz and blocking. Before Swam got hurt, he was your
Speaker 1: best receiving tight end. He was your best blocking tighter, right,
Speaker 1: And you know that's maybe that's not a surprise. He's
Speaker 1: by far your most experienced guy too. Um. But again,
Speaker 1: it's just can I can I ask you guys a
Speaker 1: question that there's asking me on Twitter if you had
Speaker 1: to draft a position, right now for this football team,
Speaker 1: what would you draft? Because tight end was always one
Speaker 1: that I kind of had. But if you look at
Speaker 1: this team, and I know it's not a time to
Speaker 1: be reflected, but I was just curious because I was struggling.
Speaker 1: I was still thinking tight end. I was thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Lawrence? You know, and that you
Speaker 1: can be able to sign Lawrence or you know, I
Speaker 1: think you're you're you're gonna try. Obviously you're gonna try,
Speaker 1: but if you could take one position do you have?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm mickey earlier were talking about offensive line,
Speaker 1: but I don't you know, I mean, that might be one.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're hoping. See I was, I was for
Speaker 1: six months from now is going to be exactly what
Speaker 1: I was also thinking, though, if he's not well, well,
Speaker 1: then I'm I'm gonna look at Connor Williams at center.
Speaker 1: Then is what I'm gonna do. But I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't in my mind just immediately, usually you could just
Speaker 1: say that position, that position. I couldn't really think, you know,
Speaker 1: other than if what happens at defensive end, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of where I was going. But I
Speaker 1: didn't know. Did you guys have a thought on that?
Speaker 1: My tight end had been my first thought. Tight end
Speaker 1: was always going to be my first thought. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: still I still would, I still would. You got one?
Speaker 1: I want to say I answered this question recently and
Speaker 1: I said, the toy running back, the toy running back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it is Flora Atlantic. Is there just an absolute
Speaker 1: need out there that you're desperate for? You're not hurting
Speaker 1: at corner, That's what I'm saying. Got a second round pick?
Speaker 1: Oh we okay, were we miss evaluating this team? Let's
Speaker 1: be careful now? Are we miss things going? Well? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was seven to last dight Yeah, seven to last eight. Right,
Speaker 1: but you know your your free safety has really come on. No,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I mean, it's there's to the
Speaker 1: point where you I mean, I was, I was sitting there.
Speaker 1: I was beating Mickey up about Earl Thomas. You know,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a young team with a lot
Speaker 1: of young players that have a path potential and have
Speaker 1: shown that they can play. It's pretty nice. Problem have
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you you can't improve. Yeah, um boy, I'm
Speaker 1: always looking to find more defensive linemen that can rust
Speaker 1: the passer, and I'm and I want DeMarcus Lawrence back,
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, but um, another pass rusher, maybe
Speaker 1: some beef inside, another another tackle. You know, you can
Speaker 1: never have enough of those guys. But by next year,
Speaker 1: will Randy Gregory being a starting right defensive end? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the contract situation with sir? Yeah, what's the situation
Speaker 1: with Crawford? He's still got years left? Okay, So Crawford,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still what about Gregory? That's what he
Speaker 1: was saying. Only they only listed him as a two
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, so I think he's got I think
Speaker 1: his contract got told it rolls over. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but see that's what I'm saying. Though I couldn't and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I'm always one of these guys
Speaker 1: that says, don't misevaluate your team, you know, and then
Speaker 1: you know, don't fall in love with your players, don't
Speaker 1: you know, don't think about your team, think about what
Speaker 1: you need to do. But it really it struck me
Speaker 1: because I couldn't just immediately say tight end safety. You know,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, what are we doing a defensive end?
Speaker 1: And that was those are the questions I was kind
Speaker 1: of in my mind, I was trying to answer. Okay,
Speaker 1: Gregory is a restricted free agent in twenty twenty, Okay,
Speaker 1: two more years, and then Crawford unrestricted in twenty twenty one. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got years left two so you know, and there's
Speaker 1: no reason to cut him. There's no reason to say
Speaker 1: salary cap cut he No, he still plays. He still plays. Well,
Speaker 1: he's still I mean, I think we're all I don't
Speaker 1: want to speak for Cowboy Nation out there, but I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable paying him and playing him. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not letting people tell me, oh, he didn't have
Speaker 1: enough sacks and okay, I don't care. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: sad and Lee might be another question. You're gonna need
Speaker 1: what you've helped yourself there this, yes, so yeah, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: we'll see. And Damien Wilson's and restricted this coming, well,
Speaker 1: I will find me, but you can find that. I
Speaker 1: will find me a Damien Wilson. Right, it's called Chris Comington. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody like that. That's what it's called. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good question. It is a great question, and we're setting
Speaker 1: up for the off season. They oh, no, I know,
Speaker 1: and I know it's offseason talk, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I just it was a question, it was asked. Usually
Speaker 1: I can answer questions just bam, bam bam, and that
Speaker 1: one I couldn't. Jeff Swain's unrestricted. Yeah, maybe drafted tight
Speaker 1: in there too, So maybe at some point. But if
Speaker 1: you like Schultz and what he's doing and coming along
Speaker 1: Jarwin too, and Jarwin, you gotta who knows who knows?
Speaker 1: Easily's up right, Beasley Tavon's up too, Yes, yep, So
Speaker 1: you know you gotta see what you what happens there
Speaker 1: with those guys. Um. I think it does speak to
Speaker 1: the fact that it's a young football team. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: got a lot of potential past this year, right that
Speaker 1: you feel good about a lot of positions because you
Speaker 1: got a lot of youth guys that are showing growth
Speaker 1: and speaking to my point, Rod Smith's also up this year.
Speaker 1: See this is where too, you think about if you
Speaker 1: could win a couple of games the playoffs and you
Speaker 1: get these guys, the young guys some experience, yep, not
Speaker 1: just go to see it, not just lose the Seattle
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we've been there year. You know, now,
Speaker 1: GI give him some couple of games or they kind
Speaker 1: of get a little battle tested. How to go to
Speaker 1: New Orleans, to go to the Rams, you know, and
Speaker 1: try and win a game. That's the kind of stuff
Speaker 1: you need. I'll continue going back to ninety one. Yep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the team was inexperience, wasn't supposed to do anything. They
Speaker 1: won five straight and they beat Chicago in a playoff game,
Speaker 1: and I think it did wonders. Now it got wiped
Speaker 1: out by Detroit. Yeah, but if you talk to Nate Newton,
Speaker 1: he'll say when they were on the way back after Detroit,
Speaker 1: they sat there and said, that will not happen again.
Speaker 1: There you go. It was almost their rallying cry. What
Speaker 1: happened Saturday night? We'll find out. We'll be back tomorrow
Speaker 1: to keep breaking it down. Thank you guys for joining us.
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