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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Says here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Happy New Year, y'all. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys inside thes WBC Mortgage Studio. It is

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday, that's like a Thursday for your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: It's playoff week. Seahawks coming into town Saturday night at

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Speaker 1: and T Stadium, Wildcard Round and we're gonna break it

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Speaker 1: all down, big show today over the next hour. Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips hosting for Bill Jones. Brian brought us in, Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Ken't Garrison hosting. What's up y'all? Nasty day out there.

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Speaker 1: It is a nasty day. I'm sure they'll be inside today. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So she got this facility for so you can go

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Speaker 1: go outside and practice. This is Seattle weather. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is this is if if you if they were, if

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Speaker 1: it a go five degrees uh cooler, and we might

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Speaker 1: not all be here right now now. I make you

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Speaker 1: got to find a way to make it. We would

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Speaker 1: have made it, but ye, David, nobody else would have.

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Speaker 1: Helma wouldn't have made it. We had this discussion calling

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Speaker 1: got that email from Valley Ranch. I wasn't here. You

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Speaker 1: sitting there. We took a picture around his desk, but

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Speaker 1: he said, no, it's playoff games. You gotta make it here,

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Speaker 1: you know. So you gotta find a way this week, right,

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Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to Well, we'll find out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I'll be here. Is it gonna be bad? It's most

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Speaker 1: of the snow overnight. I'm kind of looking forward. We

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Speaker 1: It's seeming a little little game going. Is this really

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Speaker 1: been here all my life? No you know, one year

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl was the only time it was armageddon

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Speaker 1: and then Super Bowl Sunday rolled in. It was like sixty.

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Speaker 1: It was gorgeous day. Yeah, you know, but big hunks

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Speaker 1: seen it like that in thirty years. Yeah. Again, I've

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Speaker 1: it snowed in. It ice the street in front of

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Speaker 1: we got our hockey sticks out. Yeah, it's just got

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Speaker 1: taking shots into the garbage can. Yeah, that's what you do.

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Speaker 1: You get, you get the hockey sticks out, and you

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Speaker 1: fall down a bunch hurt yourself, you know. We used

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Speaker 1: the cars go around us. Yeah. Interesting, that's typical, Mickey. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: spend the next hour just breaking this game down. Okay,

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Speaker 1: start with Let's start with the injury. What the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Zeke looks like he's ready to play a game, by

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Speaker 1: He's remember Chris Carson from the from the Week three

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Speaker 1: this league, but you know, They're putting up almost twenty

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Speaker 1: kind of what happened in the first game. No questions, Run, run, run,

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Speaker 1: great season for that. I mean, they ran at thirty

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Speaker 1: nine times against the Cowboys for one hundred and eighteen yards,

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Speaker 1: so they didn't even average four yards to carry. But

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Speaker 1: of coverages. You know, this team kind of mirrors what

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys did because they were after nine games sitting

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Speaker 1: a great environment to have to go up there and

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Speaker 1: We got LSU on over there. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: rest the Cinderella talk. I think that's over now. So

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Speaker 1: kind of scary. The uh, okay, so tough. The the

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Speaker 1: thing you know, the thing about LSU had lost. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but really, if you look at Central Florida. Them losing

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Speaker 1: that quarterback hurt them. It really did that that that

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Speaker 1: you know that that's hard to play football when your

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Speaker 1: didn't play well. Yeah, then I again, Hey, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: from the school of I don't care because if you're

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, you know. But yeah, I mean, guys,

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Speaker 1: did you all have ejected? Yeah, no, ejected, going to

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Speaker 1: that's it's proud of LSU for the way they played yesterday.

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Speaker 1: All right, diving back into Cowboys and Hawks, you brought

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Speaker 1: up a good point and a question I think Todd

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Speaker 1: Archer brought up in the President Rich yesterday. They haven't

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Speaker 1: had a lot of success against Seattle the last few years,

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Speaker 1: and haven't had a lot of success offensively specific They

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Speaker 1: played played each other last year on New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 1: I believe that was Zeke's first game back from suspension,

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Speaker 1: and they only put up twelve points. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown in that game. What was how

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Speaker 1: many touchdowns? Is it in the last few meetings. One. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so again, the guys that played in those other two

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Speaker 1: games aren't the ones playing twenty fifteen. Yeah. Not only

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Speaker 1: did Tony Romo not play, Dak Prescott didn't play, Zeke

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Speaker 1: didn't play. Who was I throw that? I think it

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Speaker 1: was Weedon right? Right? Was it that early in the

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Speaker 1: seame that was that castle? I don't know. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could look at the last two games,

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Speaker 1: and try to figure out what Seattle is doing to

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Speaker 1: limit them, especially because Zeke played in both those games. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he hadn't played in six weeks. Well, I remember

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Speaker 1: when he was coming back. It was, well, he's fresh

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna go. They're gonna win this game and

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Speaker 1: go the playoffs. Yeah, that was the narrative. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think that we talk about this though, when when

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Speaker 1: you look at these two teams, it's really about how

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Speaker 1: even they are, how evenly matched they are. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're Seattle's course is going to present some problems.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Seattle is once the team that it

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Speaker 1: once was. That sounds funny the way I said it,

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Speaker 1: but you know, with you look at the secondary with

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Speaker 1: and all those guys are all now gone. I mean

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Speaker 1: you still have the stalwarts of of kJ Wright and

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Speaker 1: Wagner and those guys. I mean this defensive line, I

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Speaker 1: think playing I think playing at that at that that

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Speaker 1: stadium is an incredible advantage for them rushing the passer.

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Speaker 1: I'll be really interested to see if they have the

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Speaker 1: same success, if Frank clark and and Dion Jordan and

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Speaker 1: Jacob Martin and those guys have the same success rush

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Speaker 1: in the passer, because it's clearly an advantage to them.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think Mickey was going through the thing

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Speaker 1: that they've struggled on the road to look this year,

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Speaker 1: haven't they, Mackey? And that where their their losses have

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Speaker 1: come with the Rams they lost at Denver? Where else today?

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Speaker 1: They did? They beat Carolina? Was that game played at Carolina? Though?

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Speaker 1: It was okay? They lost three yeahs at San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: At San Francisco. Yeah, so they've they they've they've had

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Speaker 1: their It's it's really two mirrored teams. And I think

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Speaker 1: Mickey's right on this one. I think that the players

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Speaker 1: you have now are different. You know, I think I

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Speaker 1: difference for you. You know, Cole Beasley seems to be

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Speaker 1: getting back into form. You know, early in the year

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Speaker 1: he was and then you got a Mari and things

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Speaker 1: kind of went away. But you know, and hey, I personally,

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Speaker 1: I think if Connor Williams has to play, that's not

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Speaker 1: going to be a detriment, where in Week three it

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Speaker 1: was a detriment. You know, I think Connor Williams now

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Speaker 1: better under understands what he needs to do to play

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Speaker 1: in these games, and how to survive these games and

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Speaker 1: how to you know, it's it's not easy. You know.

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Speaker 1: He had some really some some games where he was

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Speaker 1: if I'm not strong enough, this is how I have

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Speaker 1: to play. He's gonna ask you that, because Joe Looney,

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Speaker 1: it's center think about all the things that they've kind

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Speaker 1: of gone through now to to get to this point

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Speaker 1: that they didn't have to do the first time they played.

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Speaker 1: Because it's interesting. We got a mail back question about

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams today, and it's he's playing better since he's

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Speaker 1: been back on the right side, which he has no

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Speaker 1: off the nie scope and all of a sudden got

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Speaker 1: a ton stronger. Right, it's technique in terms of I

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Speaker 1: don't know left Yeah, I know those things. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I still I want to still play with Sue

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Speaker 1: of Philo there at the at the left guard spot,

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Speaker 1: because when he's been healthy, he's been Yes, he's been solid. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he didn't play great Mick one of those games. I

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Speaker 1: think it might have been the Saints game and he

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Speaker 1: had he had the ankle then. Yeah, but he's been

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Speaker 1: in healthy, he's been He's added some power and strength

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Speaker 1: I think into that line. And I think he added

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Speaker 1: a little bit of understanding of guys starting passed off

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Speaker 1: have been playing last night in the Sugar Bowl. See

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Speaker 1: if you keep continuity at guard next to Tyren Smith,

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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith's a better player and and and I know

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Speaker 1: you know you're you're talking about a guy. It's an

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Speaker 1: All Pro player, a Pro Bowl player. But when you

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Speaker 1: when you get in these type of games where you're having,

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Speaker 1: like Mickey said, you're having to pass stunts, and this

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Speaker 1: is a team that's gonna twist your front. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: do is I'd like to see them keep things consistent.

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Speaker 1: For for Tyron Smith. I think Tyren Smith struggles more

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Speaker 1: in that offensive line. That is, I think he's he

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Speaker 1: I've got this vision of a couple plays yeah and

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Speaker 1: trusting him? And then he doesn't take exactly what Tyren

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Speaker 1: When things are like Okay, my guy, my guy, my guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm kicking Frank Clark. He's my guy, he's my guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, And now all of a sudden they twist

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be there? Are you ready for my guy?

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Speaker 1: It's just those are the things I just think with Sue,

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Speaker 1: not great, But you have to run over Sue of

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Speaker 1: Philo to get to the ball. You know, that's in

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Speaker 1: a big body. When you run over a you have

653
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Speaker 1: to run over a big body. Sometimes you don't always

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Speaker 1: get there. And I think that I think that Tyrn

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Speaker 1: Smith has really grown comfortable with Sue of Philo playing

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Speaker 1: inside of him. It's kind of like it's kind of

657
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Speaker 1: like what you do with him and Ron Larry were

658
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Speaker 1: a great combination together because he trusted Ron Larry that

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Speaker 1: Ron was not if something happened to him, that Ron

660
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Speaker 1: was going to be there to pick up the pieces.

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Speaker 1: all that, you know, And that's what they had problems

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Speaker 1: all the little stunts and they're gonna move on us?

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Speaker 1: And they weren't. Yeah, it could happen. It could happen

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Speaker 1: where they've where they've had some problems. When you watch

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Speaker 1: teams run the ball, we talk about get them moving

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Speaker 1: one way and then go the ball back the other way.

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Speaker 1: Teams have had success getting them to go one way

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Speaker 1: and like the counters and things like that where they

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Speaker 1: pull lineman. Watch if you watch the Kansas City game.

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Speaker 1: before that guy got suspended. But they Kansas City pulls

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Speaker 1: the center, pull the guards, they pull the tackle, they'll

683
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Speaker 1: of things to kind of create angle blocks, down blocks,

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Speaker 1: and then get guys on the edge. This is a

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Speaker 1: you know, Joe Looney getting out front, Martin getting out front.

688
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: Now maybe not Sue Philo as much. Williams is surely

689
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Speaker 1: get out front guy. But that's this is where I

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691
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Speaker 1: to do is get the ball on the edge. You know,

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Speaker 1: get the ball with e Zekiellet start it one way

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Speaker 1: and then get the flow and then trap everybody to

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Speaker 1: the inside and then get guys on the edge and

695
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Speaker 1: then make their linebackers have to run. Their linebackers are capable,

696
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Speaker 1: but if you get them flowing one way and then

697
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698
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Speaker 1: you can get the ball out to the outside. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I don't think Tyrn Smith he played one

700
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Speaker 1: series last Christmas Eve. In that game he had the

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Speaker 1: back thing and then he yeah, but you know, he

702
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: talked about it. He needs some consistency. He's had a

703
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: lot of different left guards he's been playing with. That's

704
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: some problems. That's a job Cooper. Last year, Lyle Collins

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Speaker 1: before he moved to tackle a couple of different guys.

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Speaker 1: This year, it's been Yeah, it's been an adjustment for him.

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Speaker 1: Yron Bell Yon Bell, Yeah, I mean, you know Redman,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's had to deal with some guys. I mean,

709
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Speaker 1: there's no question this is you know, this is one

710
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Speaker 1: of those things where you don't you know that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have had some success over the years because it's

712
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: been the same generally, the same five guys. When even

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714
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Speaker 1: the same guys. Chas Green playing a little guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a couple, yeah, a couple of a couple of times

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00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: that's right. Started last year. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, okay, interesting,

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Speaker 1: all right. Tyron Smith's a great player. The problem is,

718
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: though Tyron Smith, I don't know his confidence factor with

719
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Speaker 1: you know, he won't admit it, you know, he wouldn't,

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Speaker 1: but deep down in his heart he has to think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass this guy to Connor Williams. I hope

722
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Speaker 1: he's there. I hope he's ready, you know, whereas before

723
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Speaker 1: you just pass guys, you don't even think, you just

724
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Speaker 1: pass them. And one other thing about difference with this

725
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense in the previous two games. Obviously Amari Cooper

726
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: brings a different dimension. Yeah, they were Week three, they

727
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: were trying to sort out just snaps rotation with their

728
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. It didn't work. The committee, Yeah, the committee.

729
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: It didn't work. And that's and that's why he's here.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that's that's something you got to

731
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Speaker 1: you're seeing is he's making things easier for other guys

733
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Speaker 1: to Michael Gallup Colby, no question, they're showing up like

734
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Speaker 1: Alan Hearns. Yeah, Alan Hearns had a big catch and

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, you know, and to me, the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks better. The quarterback has been better because of this.

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Speaker 1: You know, the quarterback in Week three. You know, I

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Speaker 1: lat with seven last eight they've won, right I don't

741
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: think you could sit there and say that. I mean,

742
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Speaker 1: the quarterback has had issues at times, but you know not,

743
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean earliest season, the three and five, more issues

744
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: then now he's playing a lot better. You look at

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746
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Speaker 1: he finished at ninety six nine, and he was less

747
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Speaker 1: than one point away from being better than some guy

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Speaker 1: point better than him. Yeah. Now check this out. Who

750
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00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: one of the backs, probably Elliott Jeff Swain five catches

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00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: for forty seven yards. Beasley had three for forty six,

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00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: Elliot three for eleven, Austin three for two, some guy

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Speaker 1: Gallop one for seventeen. Yeah, there was your committee. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the committee wasn't getting it done. Oh that's where Mickey

757
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,480
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Speaker 1: if it's Beasley underneath, if it's a check down to Elliott.

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00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: the code spot you put cowboys and you get that

846
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: for ten dollars with free shipping. Go to get Jack

847
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: black dot com. Where do you go? Mick about that?

848
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: About that? Take dak whoa. They like to say hello

849
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: to everybody out on periscope, by the way, Yeah, and

850
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: then people reached out to me un telling they're watching

851
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: us on the periscope. It's always it's kind of a

852
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: different I don't know much about the piscope thing look

853
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: the same, yeah, it looks to say it's the same.

854
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: It's like we got it on the dot the dot

855
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: com stuff and all that, but it's kind of a

856
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: different medium. And I know we amber and I do

857
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: it for our thing that we're gonna have today. But

858
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: I know I got some friends that have been texting

859
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: me saying I watched on the periscope and join the content.

860
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: So good guys for hanging out with us. Are they

861
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: in like a sub and they put the periscope up

862
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: and not that kind of periscope. No, not Hunt for

863
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: Red October. Good movie, though it is a matter of fact,

864
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, can't tell the real quick story sure coming

865
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: back of a scouting a trip to a scouting trip

866
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: is working with the Jaguars scout in Cincinnati and drive

867
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: a flying back on a plane and a guy sees

868
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: my Super Bowl ring sitting next to me, and he goes, hey,

869
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: what do you do? I'm like, oh, football scout, dada

870
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: da talking talking for like two hours. We talk about football,

871
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: and so we're getting ready to land. I go, man,

872
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: what do you do for a living? He goes, well,

873
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: I drive a nuclear power attack sub. I go, I

874
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: go what He goes, I'm a submarine pilot. I drive

875
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: a nuclear power attack sub USS Nebraska. I'm a I'm

876
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: a pilot. I said, the last two hours, I've talked football,

877
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: and you've and I haven't talked to anything about. He goes,

878
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, what's funny, He goes, I'm underwater for three months.

879
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm all three months, I'm underwater for three months.

880
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: He goes, I never get to talk football, goes, you

881
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: don't know how much I appreciate you letting me talk

882
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: football with you today. But it's kind of like, who's

883
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: got the cooler job? Man, he had the far cooler job.

884
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: They think about being underwater for three months, three months?

885
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: He you know, He says, well, it's funny. They play games.

886
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: They play like they play hide and seek with submarines.

887
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: So like they'll be like cruising around and they'll hide

888
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: behind an ice cap, you know, like down in the

889
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: hide and they'll just gotta wait and they'll go by

890
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: and they'll go behind him, you know, but they play.

891
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: That's what they do. He says. We, you know, we

892
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: were always preparing for things that can happen. But yeah,

893
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: he's he's drives a Dallas Class us USS Nebraska attacks sub.

894
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: I drive in nuclear power attacks sub. Yeah, I'm thinking

895
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: like wait a minute, and then the plane is like

896
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: coming there. I'm like wait a minute, wait, I'm asking questions.

897
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: So we got any questions questions, questions as would have

898
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: been next to a guy flew to the moon. Yea, yeah,

899
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: I'd recognize those guys. There you go, I recognize those astronauts.

900
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Yeah, all right, Lee in Atlanta. You're still there, Hotully,

901
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Didn't mean to jump on you. There,

902
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: no problem, guys, happened. New Year, Happy new New Year.

903
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: Ranks up. I will be quick U just real quick, guys.

904
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: A couple of things about um, kind of in response

905
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: to what Brian was just saying about the tight ends

906
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: being open. I think what I've seen this year and

907
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: Swain started to do it is that our tight ends

908
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: were running in and out of coverage. You know a

909
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: lot of Dak strows that look like they were behind guys,

910
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: even the one soles this past Sunday. It's because the

911
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: tight ends weren't sitting down in open areas, you know,

912
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: like wenton did forever. Yeah, And so although they may

913
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: have seemed open, I don't think DAK was seeing them

914
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: in the same way they were seeing Dak. And I

915
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: think it's taken pretty much all season to kind of

916
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: get there. The second thing I saw in this past

917
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: game in the red zone, which was a great wrinkle

918
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: was putting Amari Cooper in the flot with him in

919
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: the slot with a two way go on the inside,

920
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: That's really gonna open up the opposite side tight end

921
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: because every time you know, Cooper would run across, that

922
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: safety would jump right on him. And then I mean

923
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: our tight ends, no matter who it is, is going

924
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: to be wide open. And then we add Zeke out

925
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: the backfield. From that, I think I think our red

926
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: zone woes are covered. And then just one more thing

927
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: for you guys, da is if you agree with me

928
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: that Dez Bryant wasn't a number one receiver his last

929
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: year in Dallas, dak is twenty and six with a

930
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: true number one wide receiver twenty and six. Now I'll

931
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: leave you guys with that happy New Year ago Cowboys.

932
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for the call. So as he's going

933
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: back a couple of years sixteen. Yeah, that's interesting. It

934
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: helps to have a guy that's always open. Well, it

935
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: just helps to have great players. Yeah, you know, I

936
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: mean anything you can do and no offense to the

937
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: receiver's by committee. But Cole Beasley was carrying your team

938
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: as receivers by committee and he was productive until Beasley,

939
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: and he's still been productive at times, less targets, but yes,

940
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: he was doing a nice job in his role. Yes before, Yes,

941
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: God here, I think that there's something too having a

942
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: guy that a can run routes and be finish, you know,

943
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: And they and they had too many guys by the

944
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: committee that just they could run routes, but could they finish.

945
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're putting a lot on Michael Gallop.

946
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Now we're all we're all sitting there saying, play Michael Gallup,

947
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: Play Michael Gallop. You play Michael Gallup. Because now you've

948
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: got Michael Gallop. Now you're thinking, okay, now you got

949
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: something here. But in week three or a week two,

950
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: you're like thinking, oh, Michael Gallup, he can't get off

951
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: the jam here, you know. And now you're asking a

952
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: quarterback to have to throw the ball to a rookie

953
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: who's not really comfortable with what he's doing. And so

954
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: I I like what the callers saying there. I think

955
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: anytime that you can have I think they learned their lesson. Obviously,

956
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: they learned their lesson about the receiver by committee, and

957
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: they said, hey, we've got to do something different here.

958
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: We gotta go get a guy. They went and got

959
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: a guy. They went and got a number one receiver,

960
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: a difference maker. I mean, as many difference makers as

961
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: you can get on that field is going to help

962
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: your team win the football game. You know. The other

963
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: thing they resurrected against the Giants as they started lining

964
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: up Beasley wide, that there was a couple of plays

965
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: he out wide, and we hadn't seen that in a

966
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: while because it's been Gallop and Cooper Cooper, and you know,

967
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: he made a good point about moving Cooper into the

968
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: slot and you put Beasley outside, Now, what are you

969
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: gonna do? Well, they did tell us. Another one they

970
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: got into was what they call, oh one personnel, let's

971
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: just no backs and one tight end, and they put

972
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: they put Austin in a slot and they put Beasley

973
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: in the slot. And if you remember it was a

974
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: third down play, what they did do they both ran

975
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: those pivot routes where they go inside and then break outside. Well,

976
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: it just so happened that they stretched the Giants horizontally,

977
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: which made a linebacker have to go get over the

978
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: top of Austin. Well, okay, where's Prescott gonna throw the ball.

979
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: But those those the ball to Austin, you know, ten

980
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: yard game, first down, move the sticks, which we saw

981
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: a lot of in training camp. Yeah, Tavon got hurt exactly.

982
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: Oh what happened exactly in the slot. Yeah. See that's

983
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: where I think that again, Give me as many of

984
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 1: playmakers as I can give me. Put Beasy on the field,

985
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Put Austin on the field, Put Gallop on the field,

986
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, put Cooper on the field. Hell, put Jarwin

987
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: on the field. You know, put as many guys. If

988
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: protection can hold up, you will find somebody open out

989
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: of four guys. I mean, they're not going to cover

990
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: them all. Somebody will be open as long as he's

991
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: got time and as long as he's got time. And

992
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: they had been blitzing and blitzing well, so they spread

993
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: them out with five wide and and least you can

994
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: see where the blitz was coming from. Absolutely, And then

995
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: when they were still having trouble with it, it was like, okay,

996
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: we don't need a running back out there. Yeah, Ola, Wally,

997
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: you you just stand there in the block. Even if

998
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: it's third down. It wasn't like they were somebody brought up.

999
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: Oh they were using the fullback more. No, they were

1000
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: using an extra blocker, extra blocker pick up the blitzes,

1001
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: somebody that they trusted. Yeah, not Darius Jackson. Ball. Oh

1002
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: he got destroyed. He got one of one of the

1003
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: one of the blocks and it affected the way they

1004
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: threw the ball because he got just destroyed on what

1005
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: he tried to slide over on a blitz pick up

1006
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: and got just rocked. And you're like going, Okay, don't

1007
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: need that happen. Don't need a number twenty six ending

1008
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: up in the quarterbacks lap, you know, trying to throw

1009
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: the ball. That's not good. You like what Lee was

1010
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: saying about the tight ends too, Yeah, yeah, I mean

1011
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: opening things up a little bit. Yeah, but that but Garrett, Garrett,

1012
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: I should have been smart enough to listen, you know,

1013
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: nine weeks ago, ten weeks ago, whenever when he said,

1014
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, whenever, how long is how many how many

1015
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: games has Swaying missed? Has he missed? What? Five? Six?

1016
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: Seven games? How many games he missed? Now? Then it's

1017
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: about seven seven games, seven games ago. Jason Garrett was

1018
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: telling us in a walk off, He's like, goes, guys

1019
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: just need experience. They need experience. They need to play,

1020
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: they need to be out there playing, and you know,

1021
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: and and and I think you're seeing the benefit of that.

1022
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: Now Rico Gathers isn't a disaster like he was in

1023
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: training camp, you know. And now you've got guys got

1024
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: You've got Blake Jarwin making plays, making big plays. You know,

1025
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: Dalted Schultz, Dualted Schultz blocking like he did at Stanford.

1026
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: You know, I was waiting all year long. I was thinking, oh, heck, well,

1027
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: just throw Dalton Schultz in there and let him, let

1028
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: him block. It's it's taken some adjustment for him to

1029
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: have to block minus six okay, six games. He got

1030
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: hurt against Atlanta, Yeah, six, that's right. It was a

1031
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: sideline that threw it to the end of the game

1032
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: there at the final two minute, the game winning drive.

1033
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: He got hurt. And that's a good point about jar

1034
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: Schultz and blocking. Before Swam got hurt, he was your

1035
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: best receiving tight end. He was your best blocking tighter, right,

1036
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: And you know that's maybe that's not a surprise. He's

1037
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: by far your most experienced guy too. Um. But again,

1038
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: it's just can I can I ask you guys a

1039
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: question that there's asking me on Twitter if you had

1040
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: to draft a position, right now for this football team,

1041
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: what would you draft? Because tight end was always one

1042
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: that I kind of had. But if you look at

1043
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: this team, and I know it's not a time to

1044
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: be reflected, but I was just curious because I was struggling.

1045
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: I was still thinking tight end. I was thinking, Okay,

1046
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Lawrence? You know, and that you

1047
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: can be able to sign Lawrence or you know, I

1048
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: think you're you're you're gonna try. Obviously you're gonna try,

1049
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: but if you could take one position do you have?

1050
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm mickey earlier were talking about offensive line,

1051
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Speaker 1: but I don't you know, I mean, that might be one.

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00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you're hoping. See I was, I was for

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Speaker 1: six months from now is going to be exactly what

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00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: I was also thinking, though, if he's not well, well,

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Speaker 1: then I'm I'm gonna look at Connor Williams at center.

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00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: Then is what I'm gonna do. But I couldn't. I

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00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: couldn't in my mind just immediately, usually you could just

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Speaker 1: say that position, that position. I couldn't really think, you know,

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Speaker 1: other than if what happens at defensive end, you know,

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00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of where I was going. But I

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00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: didn't know. Did you guys have a thought on that?

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00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: My tight end had been my first thought. Tight end

1063
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: was always going to be my first thought. Yeah, it's

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00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: still I still would, I still would. You got one?

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00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: I want to say I answered this question recently and

1066
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: I said, the toy running back, the toy running back? Yeah,

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00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: because it is Flora Atlantic. Is there just an absolute

1068
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: need out there that you're desperate for? You're not hurting

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00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: at corner, That's what I'm saying. Got a second round pick?

1070
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: Oh we okay, were we miss evaluating this team? Let's

1071
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: be careful now? Are we miss things going? Well? Yeah?

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00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: It was seven to last dight Yeah, seven to last eight. Right,

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00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: but you know your your free safety has really come on. No,

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00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I mean, it's there's to the

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00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: point where you I mean, I was, I was sitting there.

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00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: I was beating Mickey up about Earl Thomas. You know,

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00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a young team with a lot

1078
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: of young players that have a path potential and have

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00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: shown that they can play. It's pretty nice. Problem have

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00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you you can't improve. Yeah, um boy, I'm

1081
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: always looking to find more defensive linemen that can rust

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00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 1: the passer, and I'm and I want DeMarcus Lawrence back,

1083
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, but um, another pass rusher, maybe

1084
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: some beef inside, another another tackle. You know, you can

1085
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: never have enough of those guys. But by next year,

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00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: will Randy Gregory being a starting right defensive end? Yeah? Okay,

1087
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: what's the contract situation with sir? Yeah, what's the situation

1088
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: with Crawford? He's still got years left? Okay, So Crawford,

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00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still what about Gregory? That's what he

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: was saying. Only they only listed him as a two

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00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, so I think he's got I think

1092
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 1: his contract got told it rolls over. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,

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00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: but see that's what I'm saying. Though I couldn't and

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00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I'm always one of these guys

1095
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: that says, don't misevaluate your team, you know, and then

1096
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, don't fall in love with your players, don't

1097
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, don't think about your team, think about what

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00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: you need to do. But it really it struck me

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00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: because I couldn't just immediately say tight end safety. You know,

1100
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, what are we doing a defensive end?

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00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: And that was those are the questions I was kind

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00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: of in my mind, I was trying to answer. Okay,

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00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: Gregory is a restricted free agent in twenty twenty, Okay,

1104
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: two more years, and then Crawford unrestricted in twenty twenty one. Okay,

1105
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: he's got years left two so you know, and there's

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00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: no reason to cut him. There's no reason to say

1107
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: salary cap cut he No, he still plays. He still plays. Well,

1108
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: he's still I mean, I think we're all I don't

1109
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: want to speak for Cowboy Nation out there, but I'm

1110
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: comfortable paying him and playing him. I'm not. I'm not.

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00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm not letting people tell me, oh, he didn't have

1112
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: enough sacks and okay, I don't care. Yeah, but you know,

1113
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: sad and Lee might be another question. You're gonna need

1114
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: what you've helped yourself there this, yes, so yeah, you know, yes,

1115
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: we'll see. And Damien Wilson's and restricted this coming, well,

1116
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: I will find me, but you can find that. I

1117
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: will find me a Damien Wilson. Right, it's called Chris Comington. Yeah,

1118
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: somebody like that. That's what it's called. Yeah, that's a

1119
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: good question. It is a great question, and we're setting

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00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: up for the off season. They oh, no, I know,

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00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: and I know it's offseason talk, but I don't want to.

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00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I just it was a question, it was asked. Usually

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00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: I can answer questions just bam, bam bam, and that

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: one I couldn't. Jeff Swain's unrestricted. Yeah, maybe drafted tight

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: in there too, So maybe at some point. But if

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00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: you like Schultz and what he's doing and coming along

1127
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 1: Jarwin too, and Jarwin, you gotta who knows who knows?

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00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: Easily's up right, Beasley Tavon's up too, Yes, yep, So

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Speaker 1: you know you gotta see what you what happens there

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00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: with those guys. Um. I think it does speak to

1131
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: the fact that it's a young football team. Yeah, that's

1132
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of potential past this year, right that

1133
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: you feel good about a lot of positions because you

1134
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: got a lot of youth guys that are showing growth

1135
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: and speaking to my point, Rod Smith's also up this year.

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00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: See this is where too, you think about if you

1137
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: could win a couple of games the playoffs and you

1138
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: get these guys, the young guys some experience, yep, not

1139
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: just go to see it, not just lose the Seattle

1140
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we've been there year. You know, now,

1141
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: GI give him some couple of games or they kind

1142
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: of get a little battle tested. How to go to

1143
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans, to go to the Rams, you know, and

1144
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: try and win a game. That's the kind of stuff

1145
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: you need. I'll continue going back to ninety one. Yep. Yeah,

1146
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: the team was inexperience, wasn't supposed to do anything. They

1147
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: won five straight and they beat Chicago in a playoff game,

1148
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: and I think it did wonders. Now it got wiped

1149
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: out by Detroit. Yeah, but if you talk to Nate Newton,

1150
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: he'll say when they were on the way back after Detroit,

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00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: they sat there and said, that will not happen again.

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00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: There you go. It was almost their rallying cry. What

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00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: happened Saturday night? We'll find out. We'll be back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: to keep breaking it down. Thank you guys for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Kim for producing. We'll talk to you a Thursday.

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