WEBVTT - Taking Our Civic Duty Seriously with Jamaal Bowman

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tamika d.

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<v Speaker 2>Mallory and the ship Boy my Son in general, we

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<v Speaker 2>are your host of TMI.

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<v Speaker 3>Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and.

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<v Speaker 2>Inspiration name New Energy.

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<v Speaker 1>But how good.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a big show today. It's a lot to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>So our guest is a friend, A friend, a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one thing we brought over from street politicians to TMI.

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<v Speaker 2>That's still we keep our friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Our friends are doing really powerful things, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>so a friend is coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a friend who's in a very powerful position

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<v Speaker 2>in our society, and so I look forward to interviewing him.

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<v Speaker 2>And because we have so much to discuss, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it would do us some good to just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get into the show and not have an argument at

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<v Speaker 2>the onset, Like, I mean, what.

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<v Speaker 4>Does that mean. I don't really create arguments.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I defend myself because for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always being attacked. Yeah, I don't know that this

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<v Speaker 3>this is a room for the eye women. TV is

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<v Speaker 3>full with women, and they are attacking me. They beat

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<v Speaker 3>on me every time. Everything I do wrong physically to me,

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<v Speaker 3>not physically, not physically. Not physically, there's no physical there

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<v Speaker 3>is a mental and emotional lashing that I deal with Tamika,

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes my mother on here. She tells me how

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<v Speaker 3>to say the words, how to pronounce them. She stops me.

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<v Speaker 4>There. You don't see that. You don't see the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that I gotta do with. That's what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for your I guess you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I don't really, you know, quit, That's why

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still here, because you know, if I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was for my betterment, I would quit.

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<v Speaker 4>I would just say, you know what, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, we should quit. No, I'm serious, tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I thought about that is because the

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<v Speaker 2>weather is literally going to kill us, like seriously, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really going to kill us. Every single day, the weather

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<v Speaker 2>changes so drastically that you don't know exactly what you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is freezing cold.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like everywhere else across the country that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking to family members and friends, they are in almost

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<v Speaker 2>summer condition.

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<v Speaker 1>They got on like a sweat suit and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it we are deal I literally the last few

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<v Speaker 2>days have had.

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<v Speaker 1>On full winter clothes and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have put a scarf on my neck if it

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<v Speaker 2>were not for the fact that, like I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to look crazy, right, so I was like cold trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be cool. Thank you shout out to the Black

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<v Speaker 2>Effect for sending us those jackets, because at least it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a real almost winter cold.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been wearing I've been wearing that jacket every day,

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<v Speaker 2>every day, no matter what what I have, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a little thick and I'm just trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out Groundhog Day, right, this is really my thought of

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<v Speaker 2>the day. The groundhog be missing a lot, not all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, but the groundhog it don't always work.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we even like it's just because.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't realize we just have symbol a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>symbolism in America, a lot of the ship that they

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<v Speaker 3>told me it don't work. It never really works.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just like the weather man is off. He's

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<v Speaker 4>gotten better. He's gotten better over the years, the weather man.

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<v Speaker 4>Because there was times.

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<v Speaker 3>When you go outside and the weather man that said

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<v Speaker 3>something and we don't I done stayed home from school

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<v Speaker 3>for storms that never came. That you be looking out

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<v Speaker 3>the window like it used to be crazy and it

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<v Speaker 3>never came or just missed us.

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<v Speaker 4>Like two inches it was supposed to come. And you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of symbolism shit in America that

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<v Speaker 3>just don't make sense and it really doesn't add up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the groundhog is one of those things

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<v Speaker 3>that the good white people in America who who've seen

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<v Speaker 3>his ground hog, he somebody obviously has some level of.

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<v Speaker 4>Work at one point, don't want to look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably well, yeah, because I mean I can remember times

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<v Speaker 2>when the groundhog did work, and it's true, true, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>We should really look at the history.

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<v Speaker 2>Look how the groundhog started and try to understand it,

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<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't always work. Nothing is one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>We already know that. But this is why I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>that we should quit the groundhog. Right, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is truly my thought.

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<v Speaker 4>The groundhog.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you have anything against us quitting him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he wants people just looking at him

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<v Speaker 3>and he come on this little hole.

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<v Speaker 2>And off want to deal with but being captured to

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<v Speaker 2>be hell, he don't want to have to see if

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<v Speaker 2>he sees the shadow.

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<v Speaker 1>The animal cruet, right, I wonder, I mean, we really

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<v Speaker 1>do need so.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, man, what they doing to that poor groundhog.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>We should fight out because I would be ignorant.

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<v Speaker 4>Leave him alone.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the real question.

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<v Speaker 4>House. He probably got to use the all type of ship.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all just grabbing him.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about his house.

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<v Speaker 4>He got a house. It's a little cubby.

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<v Speaker 1>That is created for the experience.

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<v Speaker 3>No way, they took him from somewhere in the wild. Yeah, house,

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<v Speaker 3>that's where they live at. That's the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Why, Michael, he's a bathuum in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>My issue with the groundhog situation is how much money

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<v Speaker 2>do we spend to produce that little thing that they do.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know, like how much does it cost?

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<v Speaker 2>It's in Pennsylvania, and I just want to know what

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<v Speaker 2>goes into it, how many people are paid?

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<v Speaker 1>What is what are the structures?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's the budget for producing the groundhog moment? That

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<v Speaker 2>fails often? And people do not really know whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not the weather is going to be determined by what

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<v Speaker 2>the groundhog sees.

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<v Speaker 3>What's probably it's probably like a holiday in Pennsylvania, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so groundhog gets probably something that people pay to come

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<v Speaker 3>to be a party.

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<v Speaker 4>They might.

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<v Speaker 2>So you all know that our show is called TMI,

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<v Speaker 2>which a lot of people when they first hear it,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh TM, I like too much information, But no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's t making myissan's information. However, one of our segments

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<v Speaker 2>is called too Much, And for the too Much segment today,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about this swatting issue. Right, A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't understand what swatting is, except I

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<v Speaker 2>watched a show about it. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>was a documentary, but it certainly was a movie and

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<v Speaker 2>it's definitely on one of these platforms, might have been Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>And it happened to Cardi B recently where her home

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<v Speaker 2>she was swatted, which means that someone knows your address

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<v Speaker 2>and they call the police and tell them that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're just you dealing drugs, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a body in your house there was a murder

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<v Speaker 2>or something which will which will pretty much summons the

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<v Speaker 2>swat team to your home. Now, anybody that's ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>a swat team, if you know anything about what that

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<v Speaker 2>looks like, it is no joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a swat team.

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<v Speaker 2>When they run down on you. They come in with trucks,

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<v Speaker 2>guns out, people moving into your space. Look, it looks

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<v Speaker 2>very similar to what folks saw at Diddy's house recently,

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<v Speaker 2>same thing at Puff's house. So our homes, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like when a swat team comes. Sometimes there

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<v Speaker 2>are a helicopters, there's certainly all types of technical devices

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<v Speaker 2>they come in, and by the way, most of them

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<v Speaker 2>come with no knock warrants where they busting through your door.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not giving you time to think, to do or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>They running up in your shit and they tearing up

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<v Speaker 2>everything until they get to a conclusion. You could be

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there saying, as Carti said, she was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Cardi B. They was making her get naked, basically almost

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<v Speaker 2>stripping her while she's explaining to them, I'm Cardi B.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes these offices, especially depending on where you live, you're

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with a bunch of white officers or a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of officers that don't know shit, don't care, and even

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<v Speaker 2>if they know who you are, they don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They have no consideration or.

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<v Speaker 2>Understanding about who you are and what you do, and

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<v Speaker 2>that you're an entertainer. Somebody said you're doing drugs, gun

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<v Speaker 2>dealing whatever out this house. They do not care, and

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<v Speaker 2>they go through your shit and tear your house up.

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<v Speaker 2>The question that I think it it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and let me go back.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the SWAT, I don't know if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>saw this the SWAT documentary or movie. They there were

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<v Speaker 2>some young people, mainly young white kids, boys, young men,

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<v Speaker 2>young white men, who were doing it all the time

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<v Speaker 2>to their neighbors, to other people that they're playing video games.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's kind of how it started. That

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<v Speaker 2>they would be doing video playing video games, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they lose or if they get upset in the midst

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<v Speaker 2>of the game, and they knew the address of the person,

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<v Speaker 2>the virtual person, you know, the person on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of this virtual experience, they would call and do

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<v Speaker 2>a SWAT call on them, and then the police show

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<v Speaker 2>up in the middle of the person playing the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was like real life and they'd be sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there playing the game and all of a sudden, the

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<v Speaker 2>police is like boom, boom, boom, or they coming straight

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<v Speaker 2>through the door. So they did this so many times

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<v Speaker 2>that several of them were arrested. It became an addiction,

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<v Speaker 2>and several people were arrested for it. One guy he

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<v Speaker 2>got he was arrested. His parents was like, what the hell.

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<v Speaker 2>His grandmother, I believe began to realize that he was

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<v Speaker 2>doing some weird shit in the basement, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd be in the basement doing weird stuff. So she

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<v Speaker 2>was doing she was doing some weird stuff, and the

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<v Speaker 2>grandmother was like, you know, she thought she figured he

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<v Speaker 2>had something to do with this. The boy went to jail,

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<v Speaker 2>spent time in prison for swatting people. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that's really what it's called, but I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 2>the swatten people. And then he got out of jail

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<v Speaker 2>and did it again, like he could not stop. But

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<v Speaker 2>the last time that he did it a man. When

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<v Speaker 2>the police showed up at some brown people's home, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't there wasn't a white family. It was some brown

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<v Speaker 2>people's home. They showed up the father or the son whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>a man in the house. I guess the way in

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<v Speaker 2>which he approached the police, so how he probably was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>They killed him?

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<v Speaker 2>And the young man who sent the police there, he

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<v Speaker 2>was charged with exactly. He was charged with like some

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<v Speaker 2>serious crimes. And it's probably gonna spend a.

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<v Speaker 5>Long, long, long long because in the commission of a felony,

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<v Speaker 5>a life was lost because you committed a felony by

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<v Speaker 5>falsely calling that person, so you actually responsible for the

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<v Speaker 5>death of the person.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so crazy and it's like bruh, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just too much much, like you way too much.

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<v Speaker 2>So but then then the larger conversation here is it's

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement doing too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But then what if some what if someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Knows that you or I are kidnapped or we're somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>and someone tries to report it and then they don't

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<v Speaker 2>take it seriously and they approach it with soft gloves

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<v Speaker 2>like let me, oh, hey, do you have a body

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<v Speaker 2>in the house because somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Called and that, and then you're like, well, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a body in here.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the thing is, I don't I don't blame

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<v Speaker 4>I don't blame the officers because they're doing their job.

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<v Speaker 3>Because exactly if somebody makes a call with that level

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, haineus talking about something a murder or

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<v Speaker 3>somebody being kidnapped or something to that degree that we

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<v Speaker 3>need that level of action. But the fact the accountability

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<v Speaker 3>has to be very strong. The accountability when you find

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<v Speaker 3>out somebody's lying and they sending that type of you know, date,

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<v Speaker 3>they're making us send out that level of military to

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<v Speaker 3>people's homes. That's taking away, that's taxpayers money, like thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars that people are going out. People's lives are

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<v Speaker 3>at risk. So if they find that you lying about that,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it should be some very steep consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I think it should be steep consequences one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want so bad to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Law enforcement could do X, Y or Z right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to find a way that they can. If

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<v Speaker 2>they got to knock down a door and and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and and go in, cool, But I need

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<v Speaker 2>them to say, let's not go in and start tearing

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<v Speaker 2>the walls out without understanding who we're dealing with. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>there might be somebody behind a door with a weapon,

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<v Speaker 2>and they do have to protect themselves. But I wish

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<v Speaker 2>there was some type of balance now that we know

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<v Speaker 2>that swatting is a thing, because then what like now

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<v Speaker 2>this man is dead. The man was killed because first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, when law enforcement approaches people of color, they

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<v Speaker 2>come with a level of aggression that they do not

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<v Speaker 2>have when they're dealing with their own or not their own.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the blacks, the black officers have the order somehow

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<v Speaker 2>they find a way to calm down.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a training inside these a lot of these institutions

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<v Speaker 3>that train you that black people are dangerous, and they

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<v Speaker 3>even train you as.

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<v Speaker 1>A blacker seper and black.

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<v Speaker 4>And brown people are dangerous, so they train.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how they train who when they're showing images of

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<v Speaker 3>the criminals, right, those images.

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<v Speaker 1>Have done that. They have done that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that is supposed to be changing within police departments,

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<v Speaker 2>like within their training, they are supposed to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not show pictures of black folks and brown folks. But

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<v Speaker 2>that was at one point that was a really big issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it certainly criminalizes folks who like off the back,

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<v Speaker 2>you're criminalized, even if you're wearing a suit.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the color of your skin, it's the neighborhood you

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<v Speaker 2>come from, it's all of those things. Of course, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the zip code that you're in and so you know, those.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are making the phone calls need to know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not a thing that young black kids pick up

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<v Speaker 2>on and start doing it, because you going under the

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<v Speaker 2>jail for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>For show.

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<v Speaker 3>So today's music Spotlight comes from a young girl from

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<v Speaker 3>Hobridge from my hood. See, and I actually happened to

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<v Speaker 3>be in the video.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I grew up with her mother and her uncle

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<v Speaker 3>like day from the hood. She remixed a boogies did

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<v Speaker 3>Me Wrong and it's called Noble Shout out to Embroidery Kings.

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<v Speaker 3>They provided the hats and the gear for the video.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a dope video. It's a really dope video. Her

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<v Speaker 3>name is Princess Ariah Princess.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is she?

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<v Speaker 4>She did she's probably about eight or nine. She's a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>And the energy is just like her talking about she

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<v Speaker 3>got so much swag with it. But she's talking about

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<v Speaker 3>how you know you tried to bully me.

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<v Speaker 4>We could have been cool and you was trying to

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<v Speaker 4>bully me and we don't.

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<v Speaker 3>This is no bullies on. We don't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>around bullies. It's people that love each other here. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's energy. And then it's her talking about her hot bridge,

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<v Speaker 3>got all the swag and how we the best.

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<v Speaker 4>So I love it. It's a person.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a rapper.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a young rapper.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm not saying she's a rapper, but she

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<v Speaker 3>got a song, okay, so she's rapping in the song

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's more into modeling, but I think she

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<v Speaker 3>found the laying with this song and probably do more

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<v Speaker 3>music's most but if you watch her, she moves like

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<v Speaker 3>a model. If you go to her Instagram following on

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram Princess Soarriat, you'll see she does modeling all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And the song took off on the internet. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to give her shout out for some positive music.

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<v Speaker 2>Princess Soriah. Yes, So next up we're gonna hear from

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<v Speaker 2>our guests. Like I said, I'm I'm quite excited to

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<v Speaker 2>have our.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy Brox finance a congressman in the United States, these

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<v Speaker 3>United States of America, and it's a lot for us

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>We're covering everything.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about the TikTok band, We're talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Naga influence over our country, and what will happen with

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party. We're talking about DEI.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Many issues on the table right now, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>so good to have in studios someone who can take

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<v Speaker 2>us through the ins and outs of what's happening with

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<v Speaker 2>our government.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure is.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are privileged honor today, Yes to be joined.

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<v Speaker 4>By Oh we got the bro in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's the bro to us, but to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people across this country, and particularly my parents

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<v Speaker 2>who live in his district and co Op City in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bronx. You know, you are actually very important and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people depend on you to make good decisions, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be a an advocate for the people and

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<v Speaker 2>not just for yourself. And so I'm grateful we have

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<v Speaker 2>now become really good friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, there's something to be said

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<v Speaker 2>about people like you, a congressman or a congressional person,

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<v Speaker 2>a person who has been elected to public office, who

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<v Speaker 2>picks up the phone like when people are calling, because both.

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<v Speaker 1>Of us are right not picking up the phone as

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<v Speaker 1>a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I have actually had to have that conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about different people. I'm like, well, I called congressmen or

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<v Speaker 2>woman so and so or Senator such and such, and

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<v Speaker 2>you got to track them down and call fifteen times

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<v Speaker 2>and then start threatening the protests and sending letters and

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<v Speaker 2>doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh, wait, I didn't I missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't miss it too much, because you know you

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<v Speaker 2>could call a person back at least.

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<v Speaker 1>But you are a like in real time. Yo, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Taught me to issue or let me break it down

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<v Speaker 2>for you and explain to you what you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's pretty powerful. And you had that

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<v Speaker 2>relationship before I even Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, the congressman, you know, I have actually met him.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the school where he was the principal

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<v Speaker 3>at and there was an issue in one of the

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<v Speaker 3>teachers have brought me in and I talked to the

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<v Speaker 3>young boys. We had a round table me and and

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<v Speaker 3>because in that area there are just different communities that

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<v Speaker 3>have been beefing for years, and those beefs carried into

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<v Speaker 3>the school, so they and we were sat at the

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<v Speaker 3>table and a lot of them didn't even know why

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<v Speaker 3>they was beefing. They just know this side over here,

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<v Speaker 3>don't mess with this side. That's just what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And they even heroded these beefs. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>went in there to facilitate and sit down with the

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<v Speaker 3>young boys, and we came to you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of agreements.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. Been a wow long time.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've been outside. We've been outside.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you've been elected to Congress since twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>sworn in in twenty twenty one. You served the sixteenth

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<v Speaker 2>Congressional district, which is the Bronx and Westchester. So tell

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<v Speaker 2>us more about your background.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, who is Jamal Bowman? Black Man in America, Pauline

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<v Speaker 6>Bowman's son, educator, father, husband, just trying to do good work.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I was blessed to work in education for twenty years

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<v Speaker 6>before I ran for Congress. Started my career in the

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<v Speaker 6>South Bronx as an elementary school teacher before becoming a

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<v Speaker 6>high school Diana students at the High School for Arts

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<v Speaker 6>and Technology in the MLK campus.

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<v Speaker 4>I was there for three years.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was there that I, you know, pursued school leadership,

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<v Speaker 6>wrote my own proposals, submitted to the city, and opened

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<v Speaker 6>up KASA where we met and I was there for

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<v Speaker 6>ten and a half years. So black man in America,

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<v Speaker 6>Pauling Bowman's son, Cata and just trying to change the world,

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<v Speaker 6>particularly for our people and marginalized people.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are your children.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty two, fourteen and nine. Mine is about to be

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<v Speaker 6>ten April seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>So what made you make the transition from educated to

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<v Speaker 3>elected official.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, when you work in education, you realize everything that

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<v Speaker 6>happens in public schools is based on policy. These are

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<v Speaker 6>policy decisions made at the local level, at the state level,

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<v Speaker 6>at the federal level, and then financial decisions are also

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<v Speaker 6>made at the local, state, and federal levels. So when

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<v Speaker 6>we talk about underfunded schools, we're talking about policy decisions

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<v Speaker 6>made by people in elected office. And when we talk

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<v Speaker 6>about underfunded and underresourced communities, it's the same thing. And

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<v Speaker 6>when you work in education, you know, parents send their

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<v Speaker 6>best children to your school, right, so whatever the community,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever's going on in the community, that's going to land

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<v Speaker 6>in your school. So you know, kids with food and security,

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<v Speaker 6>housing and security, entanglement with the criminal jobs system, on gangs,

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<v Speaker 6>lack of resources, lack of community centers like I couldn't

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<v Speaker 6>believe and still we have a lack of community centers

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<v Speaker 6>in places like the Bronx, Mount Vernon, Yonkers, etc. So

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we did good work in our school, but

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<v Speaker 6>kids still had to go home. And then, particularly the

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<v Speaker 6>year before I decided to run, I saw a rise

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<v Speaker 6>in violence, and I saw a rise specifically in mental

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<v Speaker 6>health challenges in the community. And I first saw that

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<v Speaker 6>rise with young girls who started to commit self harm

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<v Speaker 6>at a higher rate, and it was concentrated amongst Latinas

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<v Speaker 6>young Hispanic girls. And I started like just doing research

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<v Speaker 6>on what was going on here, and so that's what

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<v Speaker 6>was happening in my school, rising self harm, rise in

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<v Speaker 6>suicidal ideation. But then around the school thirty four kids

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<v Speaker 6>died with adicated tall school system. In the Bronx, seventeen

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<v Speaker 6>died by suicide. One fourteen year old in co Op City,

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<v Speaker 6>she was being bullying school, went to school officials to

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<v Speaker 6>talk about it. No one really helped her. She went

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<v Speaker 6>to the top of a building after school and jumped

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<v Speaker 6>off right after school and arrived the street and nuw

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<v Speaker 6>Michelle girl stabs and other kills right down the street.

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<v Speaker 6>And another school near the Bronzou you know LGBTQ student

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<v Speaker 6>ty to being bully stabbed, the kid killed him. This

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<v Speaker 6>is the same year where in the South Bronx this

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<v Speaker 6>kid junior got jumped case of mistaken identity beat the death.

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<v Speaker 6>The same time Parkland school shooting happened. And this is

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<v Speaker 6>Trump's first YA in office. And I had done work

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<v Speaker 6>with elected officials around all of these issues dropped my career.

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<v Speaker 6>But I realized that they didn't have the background and

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<v Speaker 6>expertise to really understand what was going on with kids

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<v Speaker 6>and what was going on with families and connecting it

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<v Speaker 6>to policy, and the elected official at that time was

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<v Speaker 6>completely absent and completely ignoring what was going on in

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<v Speaker 6>our community. So, you know, I had seen sort of,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the movement that kind of Bernie started in

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<v Speaker 6>twenty six and then twenty eighteen the whole squad got elected.

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<v Speaker 4>So AOC.

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<v Speaker 6>Ilhan and Rashida and AOC was right next door to

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<v Speaker 6>me in the Bronx and still is. And so that

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<v Speaker 6>watching them gave me a footprint of the kind of

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<v Speaker 6>politics I wanted to do, Like what I want to

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<v Speaker 6>speak to, what I want to fight for, what I'm

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<v Speaker 6>all about, you know, working class people, marginalized people, black

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<v Speaker 6>and brown people, et cetera. And so I decided, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>after I got my doctorate early twenty nineteen, I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I think. I'm just I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 6>for it. And I had no idea how to run

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<v Speaker 6>for office. I was just like, I'm an he had won.

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<v Speaker 6>I counted the votes the year before or the election

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<v Speaker 6>before the twenty twenty cycle. He had won with only

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<v Speaker 6>twenty thousand votes, and it was four hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 6>thousand elected Democrats in that district. So I realized people

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<v Speaker 6>weren't voting. People weren't voting, probably because no one talked

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<v Speaker 6>to them. Probably they were just disengaged.

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<v Speaker 4>They like that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was like, So my thinking was I could

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<v Speaker 6>knock on more than twenty thousand doors myself and get

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 6>people the vote easy. So that's what I jumped out

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<v Speaker 6>and did it and got a lot of support.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were able to win big election in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you talked about AOC and the squad. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that since you joined Congress, you chose a

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<v Speaker 2>difficult route. You went straight for the super progressive side.

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 2>You're with the folks that are you know, they being

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<v Speaker 2>attacked for everything, and sometimes they are the ones doing

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.919
<v Speaker 2>the attacking because it's necessary, right, Like somebody has to

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<v Speaker 2>be the has to push the envelope for real.

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<v Speaker 1>And so why did you go that route?

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<v Speaker 2>Like why not just go hook up with the moderate

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Democrats or the ones that's kind of in the middle,

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 2>so you could have an easier path through your beginning stages.

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<v Speaker 4>At least it's just.

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<v Speaker 6>Who I am, And I mean I was a kid

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<v Speaker 6>who got in a lot of trouble in school. You

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<v Speaker 6>know what I'm saying, So like I didn't you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I got in a lot of trouble in school when

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<v Speaker 6>I was in high school.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, you know you talk about beefs with kids.

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 6>You know, when you can't go this project, you go

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 6>to this project, you know, you get caught up in hell.

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<v Speaker 4>No I had.

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<v Speaker 6>I went to three high schools to graduate. I had

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<v Speaker 6>to leave New York City to graduate because it was crazy.

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 6>I went to high school at first August Martin. Uh

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<v Speaker 6>got into a situation, there was some shooting, transferred out

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<v Speaker 6>of that, went to Humanity's High School, gotten a beef

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 6>with kids from Chelsea, pretty much fighting every day, got

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 6>my report car failed every class. It was like I

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<v Speaker 6>got to get out of here and think I was lucky,

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 6>because a lot of people ain't lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't leave.

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 6>My father lived in New Jersey and I was able

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 6>to go live with my father and finish high school.

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 6>And I literally had a chance to reset my life

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 6>because I was away from the city. And so I

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<v Speaker 6>got lucky and that got me through it. But no,

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<v Speaker 6>it's who I am. I mean, even as an educter.

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<v Speaker 6>You know I've been you know, uh In trouble a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of times when I was a principal, just because

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<v Speaker 6>I the status quo ain't working. Like kids are dying,

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<v Speaker 6>people are dying, people are suffering inequality.

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<v Speaker 4>All the issues we know, we know.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's no way I'm gonna go in there and

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<v Speaker 6>just keep doing that thing thing. It has to be

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<v Speaker 6>something different. It has to be disruptive in a good way.

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 6>I mean, John Lewis's legacy is all about good trouble.

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<v Speaker 6>So if we're gonna follow the legacy of the people

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<v Speaker 6>shoulders we stand on, it's about being disruptive in a

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<v Speaker 6>good way. And then the last thing I'll say is

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<v Speaker 6>when you talk about how the resources are disseminated in

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<v Speaker 6>our country, the wealthiest country on Earth, our communities continue

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<v Speaker 6>to be marginalized and left behind. And again this is

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 6>not because we don't got the money. We got the money.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 6>We choosing to invest it in in the military industrial

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 6>complex and weapons contract and jails more than we are people.

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 6>So people who can afford childcare, healthcare, housing, not getting work,

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 6>not earning enough in their jobs, food and secure, whatever

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 6>the case is, there's money to help them. And if

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 6>you help them, they actually help the economy. Any political system.

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<v Speaker 6>But we so built on racism and sexism and discrimination

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<v Speaker 6>and maintaining that cast system.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 6>That new movie origin so powerful with our political system

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 6>is designed to maintain that. And so you got majority

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 6>white men from certain backgrounds in Congress. They're gonna make

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 6>decisions to maintain that. First time they get a black man,

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 6>a person of color representing them, they redraw the lines

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<v Speaker 6>and take one.

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<v Speaker 4>Hundred and eight thousand black people away. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>It's crazy, and it's not by accident. Like now that

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm in Congress, I realize powerful special interests control the

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 6>whole thing, and we they're pushing back against that, which

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<v Speaker 6>is why they come out to us the way they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of controversy, and you being with the controversial team.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, to turn.

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<v Speaker 3>You know this TikTok Man that they voted on, you

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 3>were one that voted against it. You know, their position

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 3>was that it threatened national security China's allies, and you

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 3>have a very different position because we definitely know that

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>we're dealing with censorship, you know what I'm saying, And

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>our kids are the ones that's on it, and they're vocal.

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 3>This is especially on TikTok A lot of the the

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<v Speaker 3>posts of our kids with their voices and what they

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<v Speaker 3>think is on it. So give give me some insight

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<v Speaker 3>on why you made that. Yeah, first of all, why now,

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<v Speaker 3>Like when we first allowed TikTok to operate in our country,

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't know if it was really true. We didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know that China may have the ability to commit espionageal

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't know that when we first made that decision,

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<v Speaker 3>So why now from that perspective, But then also why

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<v Speaker 3>now in terms of it's an election year. Young people

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<v Speaker 3>are using TikTok way more than everybody else. They are

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<v Speaker 3>building their own political power on TikTok. They are becoming

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<v Speaker 3>more politically engaged than ever before. People have small businesses

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>on there, more people of color on there, the algorithms

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<v Speaker 3>more aligned to building community and power. And so now

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about banning it right before an election. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make any sense to me.

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<v Speaker 6>We were talking about it last year, and we were

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<v Speaker 6>out front last year and saying nowhere against the band

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<v Speaker 6>as well. But the most important part is we got

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<v Speaker 6>privacy issues on Facebook, on Twitter, on Instagram, on YouTube,

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 6>on Google. Did we have privacy issues? They sell our

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 6>data third party all over the world right now as

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 6>we speak. I know for a fact China use its

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<v Speaker 6>Facebook book to get more most of its information from us,

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<v Speaker 6>way more than TikTok right now as we speak. So

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<v Speaker 6>why are we only talking about TikTok and not talking

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<v Speaker 6>about privacy legislation for all of social media across the board.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all I've been saying. Let's have a comprehensive public

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 6>conversation about all the social media. Figure out how can

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 6>we keep kids safe? Figure out the mental health piece,

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 6>figure out the safety piece. And our third party data

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<v Speaker 6>give us the opportunity to opt out of having.

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<v Speaker 4>Our data soul.

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 6>But they're using our data for their own bottom line

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 6>to gain wealth and revenue. And so let's have a

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 6>let's do something comprehensive when it comes to all of

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 6>social media. Let's not keep isolating TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean your prediction TikTok is banned? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how does that impact the election? Because I'm confused as

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<v Speaker 2>to why we.

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<v Speaker 1>Want, especially democratics, just enfranchise young people who are already pissed.

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<v Speaker 6>When we disenfranchised voters, it benefits Republicans, and right now,

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 6>the Republican Party is a fascist, racist, maga party that

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:18.479
<v Speaker 6>cares about power, really, that cares only about power, and

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 6>they don't care about democracy, right, newspapers and all that.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, yeah, it's wild.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 6>So it makes no sense to me that Democrats will

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 6>go along with this right now, because those young people,

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 6>even when they pissed at us, they're more likely to

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 6>vote for us when they do come out, and so

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 6>we need to figure out a way to engage them

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 6>and pull them into the process, and TikTok is one way.

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<v Speaker 4>To do that.

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<v Speaker 6>So we'll see what happens in the Senate. It moved

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<v Speaker 6>out the House, we'll see if they could get sixty

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 6>votes in the Senate to ban it. Or it's not

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 6>an outright bands, it's byte edance. The company that owns

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 6>it has a has an affiliation with the Chinese Communist Party,

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<v Speaker 6>and so the bill is by dance. You have to

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<v Speaker 6>sell TikTok to an American company if you want to

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<v Speaker 6>continue to operate in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just would love to know, so tell us

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 2>really quickly, which this was not a question we were

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 2>supposed to ask, But what's the process of who could

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:17.479
<v Speaker 2>buy it?

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I bet you the devil is right in that detail. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 2>and I've already heard. I don't want to speculate, and

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>clearly we don't know the process, but I've already heard

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>of the types of people.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Who are attempting to buy it. So what's that process

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<v Speaker 1>look like.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm not a businessman, so I don't really know

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 6>what that process looks like. But if the government is

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 6>saying you gotta sell it within one hundred and eighty days,

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 6>then it's going to be we're going to oversee that

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 6>process in some way. We don't know the details of

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 6>that department overseas, it will theoretically in that on our side,

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 6>on the House side, it will be the Committee on

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<v Speaker 6>Energy and Commerce E and C.

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<v Speaker 4>But we'll see. We got to stay tuned on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So, moving from TikTok's hip Hop, you create or you

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 3>were one of the people who created the hip Hop

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<v Speaker 3>Task Force, and what is that about?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we need to build political power within hip

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 6>hop culture. You know, hip hop's an art form, it's

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 6>a musical genre, it's culture, it's clothes, it's marketing. It's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of different things. But for me, it was

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<v Speaker 6>the genesis of my identity and it was a thing

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<v Speaker 6>that helped me to evolve into the person I am

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<v Speaker 6>right now. And so how do you harness the power

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<v Speaker 6>of that into something that could build not just economic

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 6>power because we make a lot of money for other

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 6>people mostly, but how do you harness that into political

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 6>power that then is used to change legislation in our

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 6>country at a national level, state level, local level. And

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<v Speaker 6>so you know, and you heard me on the call

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<v Speaker 6>the other day, you know, Carraswan, Rock Kim, Chuck d Brand,

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<v Speaker 6>Nubian x Clan, Big Daddy Kane. These are artists who

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 6>like aren't just rap artists. They're like philosophers, they're like greots,

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 6>they're like poets, they're creative, innovative geniuses, and they're visionaries.

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 6>And so you know when we talk about when when

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 6>Karaswan mentions, you know, hip hop as a revolutionary tool

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 6>to change the structure of racist America, like that, I

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 6>still live by those words when ro Kim says, when

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 6>knowledge of self does nothing, not can't solve like that,

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 6>those words literally guided me throughout my entire life towards

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 6>searching for black knowledge that was taken from us when

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 6>we were brought here, as in women, our ancestors brought

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 6>here as enslaved people, and so how do you harness

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 6>the power of that politically? I don't know yet, but

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 6>we're gonna figure it out, you.

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Know what I'm saying.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 6>And so, working with you and working with many others

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 6>who are already doing incredible work in the community, how

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 6>do you harness that towards lasting, sustainable political change? Because

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, when we talk about all the issues we

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 6>care about affordable housing and redlining, hip hop deals with that.

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 6>Domestic violence. Hip hop deals with that, justice reform, police brutality.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 6>Hip hop deals with that, wealth inequality. Hip Hop deals

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 6>with all these issues directly. Hip Hop holds the mirror

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 6>of America up to itself and says, look at yourself,

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<v Speaker 6>this is what you are.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 4>I am what you made me. Pop said this, this

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 4>is what you made me. Now deal with me.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 6>So I'm going to do my part as a member

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 6>of Congress, hopefully to bring the culture in to help

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 6>me write legislation and pass legislation and then leverage the

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 6>power of the fans and the supporters and the money

0:35:56.360 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 6>to really build sustainable political power. It's just to me,

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<v Speaker 6>the skies the limit there. To me, hip hop is

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 6>the rebirth of black civilization in America. Look a where

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 6>it came from. Like you try to you burn down buildings,

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 6>You created the conditions where kids in the Bronx and

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 6>kids all inner cities, kids in all inner cities will

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 6>kill themselves. They you know, the system continues to create

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 6>conditions where they hope we kill ourselves. And what do

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 6>we do? We become reborn. We do kill ourselves too,

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 6>But but the essence of who we are continues to

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 6>be red reborn.

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:39.720
<v Speaker 1>So no, absolutely, we do.

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 2>We welt sexualized nature of like we.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Have issues, like to act like we don't havesues issues

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 3>with hip hop in this culture. But it would be

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 3>I would just be dishonest to say that because it's

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 3>definitely over sexual used. It's definitely you know, there's a

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 3>growth of violence within it, you know, but to not

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 3>acknowledge the voice and the reach of it and saying

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 3>if it's harnessed, right, and as we grow in that,

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 3>if we take the minds of these young kids who

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 3>who are embracing the culture and we lead them right,

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 3>because we were we were misleading, because we were misled right.

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>So and that's what my goal is now to teach

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 3>so that these young kids have the understanding, Like we're

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:31.240
<v Speaker 3>doing programs in school from drill music to build music

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 3>in which we're taking the same energy and everybody who's

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 3>spending the block and killing and got the black we

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>ain't putting that. We want you to talk about the

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 3>reality that's going on in the community, which I don't

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 3>want you to kill nobody right so once, because those

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 3>things that have been incentivized incentivized in this culture. There

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 3>was a time, like you said, there was Karrus One

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and it was rock Kim. Those were the major people

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 3>on hip hop. So people wanted to emulate that. When

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 3>you stop emulating that, when you stop promoting that, and

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you stopped showing us that vision, then you showed them

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 3>the only way you can make money is if you

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 3>killing and shoes somebody. Then that's what incentivizes them. So

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>we just had we got weat Like you said, that's

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 3>one of the things I want to focus on with

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 3>the hip hop. You know, hip hop task for us

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 3>is really taking the message and harnessing the same energy,

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 3>but changing the message and direction because we know once

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 3>you see it, you can be it.

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 6>It's on us to do it too, right, Like it's

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 6>on us to do it. We can't just say, oh,

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 6>you know, dismiss those kids and marginalize those kids. It's

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 6>on us to work with them. On the other side

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 6>of it, there's a policy connection here. Access to guns

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 6>is due to lack of gun reform legislation at the

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 6>federal level. How do we work with the hip hop

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 6>community and culture to change that particular policy so guns

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 6>can stop being trafficked in our community?

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 4>Poverty? Right, So when we.

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 6>Talk about the root causes of this violence we're talking

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 6>about it's all connected to policy. And many times the

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 6>young people who are you young people are victims of this, right,

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 6>They're victims of a lack of access and opportunity in

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 6>their communities. I mean, we're the only developed nation that

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 6>doesn't doesn't have paid maternity leave, right, so you know,

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 6>people are having families, they got to rush back to work,

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, have their child go to childcare, and childcare

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 6>is unaffordable. Right, So that's two policies right there, lack

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 6>of access to pay leave and lack of affordable childcare.

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 6>How many of the kids were talking about are suffering

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 6>because they didn't have access to a nurturing environment when

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 6>they were babies. Instead, they were born and raised into

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 6>toxic stress and chronic trauma created by horrible policies that

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.359
<v Speaker 6>are actually violent policies, and then that kid grows up

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 6>more likely to be in special ed, more likely to

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 6>be incarcerated, more likely to be vulnerable, and to pick

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 6>up a gun and cause harm in their community. So

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 6>we got to do the policy stuff, and then we

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 6>got to do the on the ground cultural pie.

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.439
<v Speaker 2>So there are people who are like, see, see, that's

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 2>why we shouldn't vote at all, because to hell with it,

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Like the system doesn't work.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>And there's another narrative that I see. It is so

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>sad to me that our people.

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we own the narrative that has been pushed on

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>us from white supremacists, from right wing media. And so

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 2>now I hear black folks saying, some black folks saying, oh, well,

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the Democratic cities are the ones with all educational problems.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>That the schools in.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 2>The Democratic cities, the poverty and the Democratic cities. That's

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>what it's the problem is the Democrats. I mean, it's

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 2>a black people, oftentimes black men who are trying, who

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 2>are saying gun violence and violence is a problem in

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 2>democratic cities.

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you how do you respond.

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 4>That, I mean it's not true.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 6>I mean the the life expectancy, healthcare outcomes, economic outcomes,

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 6>and death by gun is higher in every Republican led

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:17.720
<v Speaker 6>state and county city.

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 4>So that that's just not yet correct. That's just not

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 4>a true statement.

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 6>At the same time, you know, the Democratic Party ain't

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, like, ain't perfect. You know what I'm saying,

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 6>ain't doing everything right by us as well? The system

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 6>is designed to maintain the cast.

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 4>System that is.

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 6>Designed for that. It's also designed to be changed if

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 6>we get involved and we get engaged. So if I

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 6>had that attitude that you're you're sharing, I would have

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:55.720
<v Speaker 6>never ran for Congress. I would have internalized a sense

0:41:55.760 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 6>of despair and hopelessness and frustration that I completely understanding

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 6>from our people. Because it is hard.

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 2>But if you just hard the money, if you just

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 2>focus on money, money, money, money, because again.

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 6>Well but that's yeah, yeah, but that's part of the

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 6>cast ideology. So if you focus on raising money, you

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 6>could become a billionaire, but you still not. If you black,

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 6>you still not at the top of that cast. Because

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 6>it's two stories that come to mind for me. One,

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 6>remember in the sixties when we was fighting the marching

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 6>for civil rights, and we got the civil rights back

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 6>pass and the voting rights ACKs past fifty sixties. You

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 6>know what they were doing on the other side, they

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 6>were creating a micro chip. So think about that, like

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 6>they were creating the next revolution, next wave of scientific technology,

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 6>and we were finding for our humanity. Right now, That's

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 6>one example. The other example is we've had rappers for

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.760
<v Speaker 6>thirty twenty thirty years talking about, you know, a billy abillity.

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 6>We want to make a billion, a billion. The goal

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 6>is to get to a Billy bill We got how

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 6>many billionaire is now? How close is that billion to

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 6>the wealth of Jeff Bezos? Hundreds of billions gates hundreds

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 6>of billions. Right, so we cha, we've been chasing what

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.359
<v Speaker 6>white supremacy is put in front of us as a

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:19.479
<v Speaker 6>carrot like chase this thing over here, a full sense

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 6>of accomplishment, full sense of utopia, full sense of accomplishment,

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 6>full sense of success.

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 2>If you have everything and your people don't, you still

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 2>have nothing.

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 6>Correct, right? So, but in reality we have lost we

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 6>our sense of self determination and our identity has been

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 6>stripped from us. So we have to connect back to

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 6>that first and foremost and Through that, then we can

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 6>self actualize and manifest our magic in whatever way it

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 6>manifests itself. It doesn't have to be a billion dollars.

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 6>It could be a million other things that we haven't

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 6>even thought about yet.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 4>And so.

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, man, it's the culture is you know, it is

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 6>what it is, but it's America and it's on us

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 6>to in my opinion, connect with it and do something

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 6>about it to change America.

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about Biden, the Biden administration, accomplishments

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:30.439
<v Speaker 2>and the perceived and or actual failures. Right, so there's

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff that's supposed to happen as slow

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 2>moving if at all. The George Floyd justicson police and

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 2>actor is just nobody's even talking about it. It's like

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>that just discipine, I don't know what happened, no more, right,

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 2>because we work in trends. Unfortunately in this country that

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 2>people are still dying, but yet they've moved on to

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 2>something different. So talk about what you think are accomplishments

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>that you all have worked on, things that the administration

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 2>has been able to get done, and then we can

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of go into the and I say proceed because

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>some people are like student loans. He didn't do anything.

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 2>It's a failure, even though so much we see.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 6>It is a lot on student loans. Yeah, so yeah, no,

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 6>great question. So, first of all, Biden is a president.

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:28.399
<v Speaker 6>He has to work with legislators in order to pass legislation.

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 4>That's o fact.

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 6>So if people are only focused on Biden and don't

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 6>even know who their Congress members are, that's a problem

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 6>because those are the people we got to vote in

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 6>and out to work on. Legislation that Biden is going

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 6>to ultimately sign are not signed. So just wanted to

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 6>put that out there. What is Biden done? The American

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:51.240
<v Speaker 6>Rescue Plan was huge. When our first got into Congress,

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 6>we were we were still dealing with COVID. We needed

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:58.280
<v Speaker 6>a vaccine. We needed to save education systems across the country.

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 6>We need to save poor city. We got people checks,

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 6>we had unemployment extended. Like American Rescue Plans, saved the economy.

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 6>That was about an accomplishment. Safer Communities Act is the

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.240
<v Speaker 6>first piece of gun legislation we passed in over a decade.

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 6>A lot of resources for mental health, a lot of

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 6>supports to communities that have been ignored when it comes

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:23.760
<v Speaker 6>to these issues. Huge huge piece of legislation, the Inflation

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 6>Reduction Act four hundred billion invested in climate the most ever,

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 6>caps prescription drug costs, insulent drug costs at thirty five

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 6>dollars a month and gives it was crazy, and gives

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 6>Medicare the opportunity to negotiate drug prices which never happened before.

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 6>And caps senior Drug court at two thousand and a year,

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 6>which is a game changer. You ain't gonna hear seniors

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 6>saying what we hear people saying about body. You ain't

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 6>gonna hear that from seniors because they feel the effects.

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 6>The Infrastructure Bill, which is historic investments in our infrastructure

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 6>one point three two trillion to rebuild roads, bridges, and tunnels.

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 4>A great bill.

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 6>My problem with the bill is then there wasn't enough

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 6>equity provisions in it to make sure black and brown

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 6>people got those jobs, which is one of the reasons

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 6>why I voted against it. And then the other bill.

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 6>His other signature bill is the Chips and Science Act.

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 6>We're bringing semiconductive manufacturing back to our country, which means

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 6>we're going to start building our microchips again, which is

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 6>going to create thousands of jobs. If not millions and

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 6>re empower us with our technology. And I personally love

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 6>that bill the most, well second most, because I have

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 6>two amendments in that bill. One is for building community

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 6>wealth through technology and the other is for building worker

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 6>cooperatives through technology. So whenever I'm dealing with legislation, I'm

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 6>specifically thinking about the Bronx Mount Vernon Yonkers and where

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.280
<v Speaker 6>black and brown people live in my district and thinking

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 6>about what they need. So those are the amendments I

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:03.280
<v Speaker 6>wrote to that bill. So those huge accomplishments. The challenge

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 6>continues to be how is that impacting people's pockets on

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 6>a day to day basis, And those bills haven't come

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 6>online yet to do that except for seniors. With the

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 6>other stuff, it's coming online slowly, but surely not at

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 6>the rate we needed. What I wished Biden did more

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 6>around was this issue of price gouging. So the reason

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.719
<v Speaker 6>why inflation still is still higher than it should be

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 6>is because corporation raised prices during COVID and many of

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.879
<v Speaker 6>them never bought the prices back then, which is why

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 6>people still can't afford all that stuff. This is why

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.439
<v Speaker 6>people still which is why people still struggling so much,

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 6>to live and you know people both pointed out it. Yeah,

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean, so we have a bill called the Ending

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 6>Corporate Greed Act, which focuses specifically on this issue of

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 6>price gouging. We want to hold companies accountable for price

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 6>s gouging, right, and we want them to open their

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 6>books to show us what's going on in their companies

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 6>so that we can see how much is going to

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 6>profit and how much is going to the people. It's

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.760
<v Speaker 6>called the Ending corp agree that that's something we would

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 6>like the President to support. We talk a little bit

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 6>about price scugeing, but we don't talk about it enough.

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 6>So the Republicans have run with the narrative that the

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 6>reason why inflation is crazy because it's too much government spending. No,

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 6>it's because of price gouging. When you look at I

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 6>don't have the number in front of me. Was it

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 6>tens tens of billions of hundreds of billions of dollars

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 6>that billionaires gained during COVID versus working class people? It's

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 6>because of price gouging. So they got their check. But

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 6>that that ran out right, that ran out and now

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 6>you know correct, and we also have a system where

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, like you see the mo flee or quarterly

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 6>celebrations of job growth growth, Right, more jobs, got more jobs,

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 6>more jobs. We still have underemployment, which means people aren't

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 6>making enough money. So people may have jobs, but they're

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 6>not making enough prevailing wage and so. And part of

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 6>that is because we have a system where if you

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 6>are large corporation, uh, you you get rewarded for buying

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 6>your own stock to prop up the value of your corporations,

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 6>where you should be investing in creating paying wage job,

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 6>living wage jobs for people, but they're not, and they're

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 6>not held accountable for that. So a lot of our

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 6>eyre towards President Biden or the Democratic Party should go

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:46.360
<v Speaker 6>towards the corporations that are that are you know, destroying

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 6>us right now economically.

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:50.720
<v Speaker 3>So those things help black people? What's that the stuff

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 3>you said that did? Yes, directly helped black because that's

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 3>what people are going to say, Yeah, whatever, what have

0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 3>you done for black people?

0:50:59.320 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 6>Exactly right, So yes they do. Here's a challenge though

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 6>one it doesn't help them fast enough.

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 4>So that's the problem.

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:11.280
<v Speaker 6>So that that that criticism is well taken for Biden

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 6>and for all of us. It's not just Biden, it's

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 6>the legislators. Here's here's the challenge.

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Though.

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:19.720
<v Speaker 6>A lot of that money is made available in grants,

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 6>so it's not just given. The American Rescue Plan was

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 6>just given. It was given the Mount Vernon, it was

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 6>given the city.

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 4>It was it was it was yeah, it was.

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 6>Given the Yakers, it was the stimulus checks given. Certain

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 6>things were given in the beginning. These bills have grants

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 6>attached to them. So if you don't have a grant

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 6>writer to go after the grant, you can't bring X

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:50.239
<v Speaker 6>program into your into your community. That's a major part

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 6>of the problem. But again it's not just it's it's

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 6>the it's the government side. It's the government, it's accessing

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 6>opportunities the government side. But it's also the corporate side

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:03.440
<v Speaker 6>as well. And one of the challenges with Biden, particularly

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 6>in this day, Biden is a capitalist. He you know,

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 6>he supports you know, large corporations and building wealth corporations

0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 6>and whatever we can. We can save that for another conversation.

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 6>My point is what are we doing to invest in

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 6>working class people every day and support them so that

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:26.240
<v Speaker 6>they can afford childcare, housing, healthcare, transportation, utilities, et cetera.

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 6>Utilities are crazy killing everything.

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, this is a real problem.

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 2>And I tell people that will see this interview will say, still.

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 1>How exactly does.

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 2>TT in Alabama, who lives in a trail apart, who's

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 2>taking care of her kids, struggling, doing everything possible to survive,

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 2>how does t T get money in her pocket?

0:52:57.640 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>That is?

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.919
<v Speaker 2>That's still And until we can answer for that, because

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not responsibility only or whatever, it's it's like you said,

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a full legislature. It's it's a lot of people

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 2>involved in that. But until you can answer that question directly,

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 2>you're going to have a lot of people who just

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 2>checked out. And I'll give you an example of something

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:18.239
<v Speaker 2>that happened recently I was talking to.

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:21.320
<v Speaker 6>Before you do that, I just make one quick counter argument.

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 6>There are certain groups and lobbies that have incredible power

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 6>in Congress because they vote every single election, They vote

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 6>in every primary, they voted in every general, and made

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 6>itself a priority the right.

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>So a politicians care about money and.

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:46.240
<v Speaker 6>Votes, right, And so if you say you not voting,

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 6>are you in participating?

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Why do I care about what's.

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Easier for them to run to completely ignore you?

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 4>Why do I care about what you want to what

0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:54.840
<v Speaker 4>you think.

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>But I was going to give you this.

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I was talking to some cousins on the phone, you know,

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 2>having our little Sunday kicking around doing we still do

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:11.960
<v Speaker 2>zoom and conference calls like COVID. And my cousin said,

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, we gotta get ready to vote.

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Country is crazy. This is serious, serious election. Gotta do it.

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:27.280
<v Speaker 2>And she laughed and said, child, y'all live a different world.

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 2>We down here hustling from moment to moment to survive.

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 2>We was hustling when Trump was the president. We've been

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 2>hustling since Biden is the president. It does not change

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:41.480
<v Speaker 2>for us. None of that stuff impacts our street, like

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 2>where we're living and what we're suffering with.

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:44.760
<v Speaker 4>But that's just the reality.

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 3>The reality is right there is there is a demographic

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:53.440
<v Speaker 3>in this country that is not served right, and that

0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 3>when we were sitting here making up alive.

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:59.880
<v Speaker 1>They are for real, that's nobody not they.

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 3>They've so below the Holidy line that they don't even

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 3>they not even counted. It's a reality.

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 6>When I first got to Congress.

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 4>We couldn't. We failed to raise the.

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 6>Federal minimum wage from seven dollars an hour to fifteen.

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Dollars, simple thing. Seven dollars.

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 4>The federal minimum wage is people.

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 2>And Democrats and Republicans allowed federal.

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy to happen the federal I thought it was everywhere.

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 3>So the federal no minium wage is still seven.

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, corporations have to take it upon themselves

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 2>at this point, or.

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 4>States like New York State has it. You know, I

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 4>think it's seventeen now.

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Business owners coming to this conversation because I've had several

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 2>business owners say they cannot handle the increase in minimum

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 2>wage for the employees.

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.040
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, it's a what to your point?

0:55:57.160 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 2>And we're gonna move on because we only got one

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 2>more one, two more things and then I know we

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:03.400
<v Speaker 2>gotta cut this. But we knew that this would be

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 2>a real powerful interview, and it has to, you know,

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 2>between yourself and others like you, Congresswoman, and Corey Bush

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 2>and just a number of individuals who are in the

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 2>federal government pushing to make progressive and radical change. Right,

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 2>your voices need to be amplified because our people are bewildered,

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 2>feeling disrespected. Don't understand. Some people are confused. Other people

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>are like, I'm not confused.

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:33.359
<v Speaker 1>At all.

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 2>My middle fingers is up to the whole jam. Like

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm checked out completely, you know, And when you think

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:45.360
<v Speaker 2>about how many people are suffering, it's almost like nothing

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 2>that we ever could say can make them feel better.

0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Especially on top of all of the financial issues. The

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 2>police are still knocking them upside the head, right, the

0:56:56.800 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 2>schools are still not properly educating their children properly. They

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 2>are tired and worn out, and so I get frustrated

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, we can't stay home, not in this

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:12.000
<v Speaker 2>people keep I think the worst talking point is this

0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 2>is the most election, the most important election of our time.

0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Every single election, city council, district leader, every single election

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 2>is the most important election of our lifetime. And because

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 2>we just start that when it comes to keeping Donald

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Trump out of being becoming president, it's lost, you know

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:37.360
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, because yeah.

0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 4>Voter die over.

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, I mean, slogans ain't going you know, we're

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 6>not gonna a revolution from slogans, right, But to your

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 6>point of myself and others in Congress.

0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Where's some of the few who don't get the middle finger?

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:53.800
<v Speaker 1>All Right?

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:55.439
<v Speaker 4>When we show up.

0:57:55.320 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 6>In community, people actually are excited, and it's inspire to

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 6>engage with us. They beat us down to right, y'all

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.720
<v Speaker 6>ain't doing nothing, and we got to what's going They

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 6>do that, but they still engage, and we engage with

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 6>them because that's why we in Congress for them. We

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 6>are ran for Congress because of them. I ran for

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 6>Congress because kids in the Bronx Mount vernon Y, because

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:24.440
<v Speaker 6>all were ignored, marginal and dying every day in our streets.

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 2>So I'm a quick questions, a question that we want

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 2>to know. How you deal with the black whatever they

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 2>call themselves that they listen. You talked about radical on

0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 2>your side, They outside the building, down the hall around it,

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 2>behind them, the what you call it, the shrubs hiding

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 2>from a radical conversation?

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 1>How do you deal?

0:58:56.400 --> 0:59:01.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean, yeah, it's you know, I don't I don't

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:03.800
<v Speaker 6>really deal with it, you know what I'm saying Because

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.120
<v Speaker 6>at the end of the day, we got work to do, right,

0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 6>So I'm I'm hyper focused me personally, I'm hyper focused

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 6>on the work we need to do. And you know,

0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 6>Malcolm educated us, educated us on the on on the bourgeoisie,

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:22.440
<v Speaker 6>uh friends for none, educated us on the colonized bourgeoisie.

0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 4>And for me again, if we not.

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 6>Going all out for for our people and hurt people

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 6>and marginalized people, we don't need to be there.

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 4>We don't need to be in.

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 6>No elected office if we're not trying to go all

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:40.120
<v Speaker 6>out for our people. And so you know, that's what

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 6>I'm all about it and that's why we we And

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 6>it's not just words, it's legislation is money. One quick example,

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, horrible incident took place a couple of years

0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:56.560
<v Speaker 6>ago in Mount Vernon. UH girls from neighboring cheerleading squads

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 6>got into some beef. It went to Snapchat, it got

0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 6>out of control. They decided they was going to meet

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 6>and fight a block away from city hall.

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:06.440
<v Speaker 4>In Mount Vernon.

1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 6>One girl pulls out a knife, stabs one girl kills her,

1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:16.040
<v Speaker 6>stabs another one critical condition. The one who did the

1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:20.680
<v Speaker 6>stabing is now going for fifteen twenty years right one.

1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:23.520
<v Speaker 6>The other girl's going forever, family, community, never going to

1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:26.160
<v Speaker 6>see her again. And one's in critical I don't know

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:29.840
<v Speaker 6>how she's doing right now. So you know, I show

1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:31.720
<v Speaker 6>up at the mayor's office the next day, we have

1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 6>a community meeting, town hall circle, trying to understand what

1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:38.560
<v Speaker 6>the hell happened, and why couldn't we stop this. In

1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 6>addition to that, we worked with them to bring in

1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:44.880
<v Speaker 6>a million dollars to create a program called Safe Place

1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:49.000
<v Speaker 6>for Our Girls, where now we're targeting middle school and

1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:52.480
<v Speaker 6>high school girls in Mount Vernon to support them in

1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:57.320
<v Speaker 6>their growth and development as young women. If someone like

1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:02.440
<v Speaker 6>me wasn't in office, that doesn't happen. There's another incident,

1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:07.280
<v Speaker 6>young man Newishelle High School kid gets into an argument

1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:10.560
<v Speaker 6>with some other kid, apparently fencing always involved. Kid pulls

1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:13.320
<v Speaker 6>out a ghost gun, shoots the kid, kills him. I

1:01:13.360 --> 1:01:16.040
<v Speaker 6>think the kid was fifteen years old, shot by sixteen

1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:19.440
<v Speaker 6>year old. Again, one life going, one life change forever,

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:22.800
<v Speaker 6>Community change, forever, show up.

1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Meet with community, meet with teachers.

1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:30.440
<v Speaker 6>Parents, administrators, families, not just thoughts in prayers. Figure out

1:01:30.520 --> 1:01:33.480
<v Speaker 6>how can I use my position bring in resources to

1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:37.160
<v Speaker 6>help this community. We brought in about three million dollars

1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:40.000
<v Speaker 6>for the Boys and Girls Club and the school district

1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:44.240
<v Speaker 6>to work specifically with at risk youth. If we not

1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:48.880
<v Speaker 6>voting in every election, you not gonna get someone like

1:01:49.040 --> 1:01:53.480
<v Speaker 6>me in office doing that work with our most vulnerable communities.

1:01:53.480 --> 1:01:58.760
<v Speaker 4>All you gonna get his thoughts in prayers, and that's it.

1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:02.840
<v Speaker 4>The last thing I'll say on that is this is

1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:08.200
<v Speaker 4>personal for me. Personal. I mean shit, it was.

1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:09.920
<v Speaker 6>I must have been eleven years old, so it must

1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:12.080
<v Speaker 6>have been like eighty seven eighty eight. My sister I

1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:15.960
<v Speaker 6>got two older sisters, both was dating drug dealers, you know,

1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:18.720
<v Speaker 6>big radios all at you know, eighty seven eighty eight.

1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:20.600
<v Speaker 6>One of them took me on a run uptown to

1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:24.120
<v Speaker 6>the Bronx with them. I'm from Manhattan. Took me uptown

1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:26.440
<v Speaker 6>on the Bronx for a run to go drop off

1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:29.200
<v Speaker 6>something and pick seing up whatever it was. We get

1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:32.840
<v Speaker 6>into an alley. He pulls out a gun, shoots in

1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:33.160
<v Speaker 6>the air.

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<v Speaker 4>Three times, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, here, you want to shoot it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>hell no, I was scared to death. I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to touch that gun. But I tell our story to tell,

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<v Speaker 6>like from when I was eleven, the issue of gun violence,

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<v Speaker 6>since the violence was going on our community has been

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<v Speaker 6>in my life personally, professionally.

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<v Speaker 4>So now obviously I'm going to govern from that perspective.

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<v Speaker 6>So now because of the way I govern and we

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<v Speaker 6>go with community, we have some of the most powerful,

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<v Speaker 6>wealthiest people in the country coming to take me out

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<v Speaker 6>of my seat because.

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<v Speaker 4>We challenging that power. So we're challenging this power.

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<v Speaker 6>So now APAC Republican mega donors who support Trump and

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<v Speaker 6>over one hundred insurrectionists who are racists and support the

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<v Speaker 6>mass murder that's happening in Gaza right now, they're coming

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<v Speaker 6>to take me out of my seat.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's crazy. And it's crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 6>Simply because we fight it for black and brown lives

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<v Speaker 6>hair and in Gaza it's connected.

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<v Speaker 4>It's white supremacy. It's all connected, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just want to say that I commend you

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<v Speaker 3>because when I talk about voting and I talk about

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<v Speaker 3>who do we elect, and people say who are we

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to elect? And no party of this? And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a party person, you understand I'm saying. But the

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<v Speaker 3>reality of the situation is I need the proper representation

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<v Speaker 3>for me. I need to know that people get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to know that there's somebody in these offices

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<v Speaker 3>that understand my reality, that understand that's been through the alleyway,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody shot a gun, that's been had a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>fights in school and had to switch to school, that

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<v Speaker 3>had to go through something to overcome something that actually

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<v Speaker 3>understand and identify what it is these kids are dealing with.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't govern our communities if you not even you

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand the realities that we have to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>every day. So when I vote, it's for somebody like you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I want to I just want to commend you

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<v Speaker 3>because I understand what it is that you represent and

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<v Speaker 3>understand the fight that you have against you because we

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<v Speaker 3>fight against it every day, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So what I want to say is, continue to fight.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna do everything we can to fight with you,

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<v Speaker 3>because this is what representation looks like.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what our communities need. We need young.

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<v Speaker 3>Boys that are at risk need to see somebody like

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<v Speaker 3>you that's willing to come and argue with the people

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<v Speaker 3>or take the abuse and deal with it because we

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<v Speaker 3>reality is y'all just talking from your talking points and

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<v Speaker 3>this with the community. You've never been in that community.

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<v Speaker 3>You having a conversation with me about what black people

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<v Speaker 3>is and what hip hop is and what the culture

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<v Speaker 3>is and what violence doesn't mean. And y'all want to

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<v Speaker 3>say no, Unfortunately, this is how we had to survive. Unfortunately, somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>this was the only thing we had to survive.

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<v Speaker 4>But we didn't know anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, some of us had to go through things and

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<v Speaker 3>actually overcome those things, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And so now we come.

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<v Speaker 3>From a perspective of lived experience, and we want to

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<v Speaker 3>help our kids get through that and before they have

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<v Speaker 3>to go through what we've been through. So I reject

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<v Speaker 3>the notion that somebody outside of my community that's never

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<v Speaker 3>been through can govern my community.

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<v Speaker 4>I reject that notion.

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<v Speaker 3>I reject that some white man that's never been in

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<v Speaker 3>my community can can tell me what's better for our community.

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<v Speaker 4>I reject that. I vehemently reject that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want our community and our representation to look

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<v Speaker 3>like the people that's inside those communities. So I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to tell us when is reelection, what is the STRATEGYAH.

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<v Speaker 6>Election day is June twenty fifth, that's the primary, June

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<v Speaker 6>twenty fifth. Early voting starts June fifteenth. If you're not

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<v Speaker 6>registered to vote, please register the vote by June fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the last stay to vote in this election. And

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<v Speaker 6>in New York State, I don't agree with the law,

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<v Speaker 6>but you have to be registered with a party to

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<v Speaker 6>vote in a primary. So if you want to vote

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<v Speaker 6>the demoprat primy, no, the congressional primaries June twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 6>That's my primary. The presidential primary is like next week.

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<v Speaker 6>What's happening right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yup?

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<v Speaker 6>So for the congressional primary June twenty fifth. Congressional primary,

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<v Speaker 6>early voting June fifteenth. Congressional primary. Last day to vote,

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<v Speaker 6>register to vote is June fifteenth. You could vote early

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<v Speaker 6>beginning June fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>You could do mail in.

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<v Speaker 6>Ballots, but not just in my election. You got to

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<v Speaker 6>register in New York State. You gotta be registered Democrat

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<v Speaker 6>or Republicans vote. I'm saying registered Democrat in my district

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<v Speaker 6>to vote for me, because I have someone who has

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<v Speaker 6>been a Democrat in his old career, but he's partnering

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<v Speaker 6>with racist Republican mega donors to take me out my seat,

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<v Speaker 6>out this seat, the district seat. They had a whole

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<v Speaker 6>campaign trying to switch Republicans to be Democrats to vote

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<v Speaker 6>against me. So that's only happening because we're causing good trouble,

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<v Speaker 6>Like we're being disruptive.

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<v Speaker 3>If they wouldn't, they wouldn't go to hard, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>go so hard.

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<v Speaker 6>They're throwing everything at us right now. So June twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 6>Election day June fifteenth, early voting. Please register the vote

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<v Speaker 6>Democrat in my district, at least register the vote because

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<v Speaker 6>we need people involved and engaged. Because the federal government

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<v Speaker 6>spends four hundred and fifty billion dollars a year on weapons,

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<v Speaker 6>nine hundred billion for the military industrial complex, and the

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<v Speaker 6>second largest expenditure is jails. So they spend on war,

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<v Speaker 6>they spend on jails. The only way to get them

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<v Speaker 6>to spend on our people in our communities is to

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<v Speaker 6>get involved in vote and change the whole game.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate you, thank you, we got you got we

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<v Speaker 3>got your back man, Thank you, man, appreciate such.

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<v Speaker 1>A very very informative interview. And you have to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're our friends.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know you boycott black murder all day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's enough said, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean our brother listen, man, Like things like that invigorate

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<v Speaker 3>me to you know that have some little bit of hope,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because it's so it's so few people that

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<v Speaker 3>that you can even vote for it that even represent

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<v Speaker 3>what it is your mind state that said understands what

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<v Speaker 3>the problem is and willing to fight regardless. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's sad because what we have to do and how

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<v Speaker 3>we have to stand behind. We got to do put

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<v Speaker 3>everything we have because that's not a popular thing.

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<v Speaker 4>One is something.

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<v Speaker 3>Different and one better for your community and understanding the

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<v Speaker 3>dynamics of your community and fighting for all the time

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<v Speaker 3>it's not popular, like they want you to forget where

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<v Speaker 3>you come from. They want you to forget the realities

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<v Speaker 3>that they want you to just go along with status

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<v Speaker 3>quo while I'll continues where our communities continue to fall

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<v Speaker 3>apart and our young kids' education is shot and there's

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<v Speaker 3>violence going on, and you not care about that, and

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<v Speaker 3>you focus on we just need money for the district,

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<v Speaker 3>so you could just keep funneling the same money to

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<v Speaker 3>this which really.

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<v Speaker 2>Need people like Jamal Bowman to be reelected. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just know that for people who are listening to this,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a serious situation. And I think he said something.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we could have done so much more with

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<v Speaker 2>that interview, but he said something that I hope folks heard.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, because we stand up for black and brown people,

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<v Speaker 2>they put everything when we say cease fire and Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>they come after us. But they're not only coming after

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<v Speaker 2>us because Gaza, they are also they already had a

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<v Speaker 2>target on you because of your advocacy and radical voice

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<v Speaker 2>for black and brown people.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so crazy the word radical.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm saying no, but that's the best word.

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<v Speaker 1>I use.

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<v Speaker 2>The word radical is because I want to to to to.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the stigma from it.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be used and we should normalize saying it

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<v Speaker 2>because we do need radical because progressive is not getting

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<v Speaker 2>us enough. Progressive has been co opted, by the way

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<v Speaker 2>by it mean that.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to run instead of they want to tiptoe.

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<v Speaker 2>Progressives many of them are people that are also not

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<v Speaker 2>from our community, that are fighting for this whole pie theory, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's sort of like one of our critiques

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<v Speaker 2>about well, one of my critiques about Bernie Sanders was

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<v Speaker 2>this idea that if we just raised the entire all

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<v Speaker 2>the people, right, so the entire nation gets support and resources,

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<v Speaker 2>then it will benefit it every micro group.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is not true.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have a very specific focus on black

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<v Speaker 2>folks if you want to, if you want to, if

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<v Speaker 2>you are if you are a true fighter and believer

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<v Speaker 2>in the success of our communities, you gotta target us.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to focus us, which is the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>around DIA that we have to do on another day,

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<v Speaker 2>but which is diversity, equity, and inclusion. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say radical because I don't care if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's not to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I just the definition of radical means something that's

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<v Speaker 3>so far gone and it's so far left to pushing us.

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<v Speaker 3>To me is like why is this pushing? Like this

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<v Speaker 3>shit has just common sense to me. So that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. I'm not saying you shouldn't use it or

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<v Speaker 3>kid how they weaponize it, because fuck them anyway, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>But that that goes to my I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just noticing.

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<v Speaker 3>Just it's is so many things, you know, this Internet

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<v Speaker 3>and misinformation and the intentional spreading of misinformation is just

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<v Speaker 3>at an all time high. Like people are just reposting

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<v Speaker 3>and resharing and re saying things.

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<v Speaker 4>That they have no clue about, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit that just makes no sense, and you be like

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<v Speaker 3>you really didn't did you even think about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you? Who told you to post it?

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<v Speaker 3>And these are supposed to be reputable sites and reputable

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<v Speaker 3>blog sites and reputable people.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're just saying anything.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just like, I just fear for us that

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<v Speaker 3>this misinformation age that we're in this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to be the death of us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's misinformation and disinformation, and there are people who benefit

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<v Speaker 2>from from making sure that we are uninformed and misinformed.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been watching also over the last week or

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks misinformation even around the situation with Diddy that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the hell has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very alarming and very disturbing to hear the

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<v Speaker 2>types of allegations that are out there about someone that

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<v Speaker 2>I love. But nonetheless, I know people that I love

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<v Speaker 2>that may have done something wrong. So I don't say

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know, but I certainly see misinformation even

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<v Speaker 2>in that and even when someone says, actually we were wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>people have taken whatever that thing was and they've gone

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is very very dangerous. Not because.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because any one of us can definitively say or

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<v Speaker 2>this or that and the third in that situation. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not what we are here to discuss. But what it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me worry about is that in an election season,

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<v Speaker 2>well we're now learning is that if a blog site

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<v Speaker 2>or even a news outlet, because even The New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times has been found throughout the issue of the attack

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<v Speaker 2>on Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Times has been found, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>put that to the side. Even in my own life,

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Times has been found to push propaganda

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<v Speaker 2>and to report things that are actually unfounded and pure lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we're in a situation where people can't even say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me go look at media sources to get info.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even you can't even because you don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know whether those media sources are true or not. So

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<v Speaker 2>they've been running for the last week. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing about the shares of that that puff sold

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<v Speaker 2>the shares of his shares of revolt, and Roland Martin

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<v Speaker 2>is like, I'm talking to the people at the highest

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<v Speaker 2>level and that is actually not the case. And it's like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>put that over here, because that's people's personal bit. This

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<v Speaker 2>is whether he sells it, doesn't sell it, who buys it,

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<v Speaker 2>how it all works out. Shout out to the family

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<v Speaker 2>at Revote. I pray for every single staff person that's

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<v Speaker 2>there that I know are people who are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do their job despite all of this other craziness that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. They are attempting to be a voice for

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<v Speaker 2>Black America and try to get it right, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to them, much love to them.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say put that over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine when people realize that, all they gotta do is say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, boom.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's what they realize. But that's what I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To state it as fact.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's what I'm explaining to you. That is the

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<v Speaker 4>error we are on.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we have so many quote unquote Internet influences.

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<v Speaker 4>YouTubers.

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<v Speaker 3>They come on there with the most outrageous shit that's unfounded.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody fact checked them, nobody looked it up. They just repost.

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<v Speaker 3>People could come to you and say, oh this is true,

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<v Speaker 3>this is true, and you're like, where did you get

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<v Speaker 3>the information?

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to believe, mice.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to believe that because of what women have suffered, right,

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<v Speaker 2>women have suffered abuse and discardment for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to believe that we are living in

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<v Speaker 2>an era where some of our people are just like,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to support those who may have been harmed.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we see this going on across the board, people,

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<v Speaker 2>young people, kids on Nickelodeon.

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<v Speaker 3>And how do you support somebody by life?

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, Well, what I'm saying is I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that folks believe that they are caught up in lies.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they are really There's some people that's just

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<v Speaker 2>trolls and they idiots and that's it. But there are

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<v Speaker 2>some people who are truly trying to advocate for what

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<v Speaker 2>they believe is the underdog or the victim.

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<v Speaker 4>You can advocated, you can advocate with the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that, But you don't know the truth. But

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<v Speaker 2>that means if you don't know the truth, what.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you advocate?

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<v Speaker 3>You advocate and say, hey, this is such and such

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<v Speaker 3>said this, and I believe such and such right, But

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<v Speaker 3>you can't you can't push that as is a fact.

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<v Speaker 3>Right if somebody come to you and say something such

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<v Speaker 3>happen to me and they say, this is my friend,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that that and based on what my friends said,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it. But you can't come in fact and

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<v Speaker 3>act like.

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<v Speaker 4>You was there.

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<v Speaker 2>The macrocosm is that we are in a time where

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<v Speaker 2>you will take anything they say on the internet and say,

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<v Speaker 2>well they said, they said who's that?

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<v Speaker 1>And who is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody never tells you who they are, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>real dangerous it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just I just I just hope that we learn.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they what the ministers been. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>what I learned, learned, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Learned, learned, and with that learn we've come to the

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<v Speaker 3>end of another episode. Shout out to Congressman Jamal Bowman.

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