1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of his information. Wouldn't 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: you agree? Ah got five dollars. This is a raal. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Happy tackle ship one man play. You're saying that humans 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: need fantasy to make life bearable. Humans need fantasy to 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: be human. My goodness, mispek. You guys are prose best, relentless, 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: refusing to give up. 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn, Bayless? 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: What is up? Everybody? Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: I am your host, Chris Raybaon of the Action Network. 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: This is our AFC South Fantasy Preview episode. Here to 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: break it down with me. One of the best rankers 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: in the game, Sean Kerner, the odds maker. What's going on? 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Sean? What's up? 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: Had to blast with you blinkway too on Saturday night. 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: We have to get those out of our system before 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: the NFL season starts. I don't know if I could 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: do that most Saturdays well, but had to blast either way. 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we were mosh pitting it out in uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: there's a lot. There was a lot, but not that 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: was dope and yeah glad we got to do that. 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: We also got to hang out with our guy Jason 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: soble So shout out to him, Matthew Trebby, shout out 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 2: to him. But uh yeah, we're gonna we're gonna break 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: down every fantasy relevant player in the AFC South. Our 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: NFC at AFC East and North episodes already yup, so 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: check those out right here, and then our NFC South 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: episode will be out on Friday, so I'll be sure 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: to check out check for all of those right here 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: on the Fantasy Flex channel. All right, So let's start 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: it off with the Jacksonville Jaguars. They are favored to 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: within the AFC South. And you know, this is a 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: fantasy podcast, and I've been kind of skeptical about the Jags, 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: just kind of of pike walk into a repeat of 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: the division title. But I will say this, the one 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: thing the Jaggs have is skill players, which is good 36 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: for fantasy. So terror Lawrence the QB eight right now? 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 2: What are you thinking with Lawrence in year three? Now? 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think QB eight sounds about right. I mean, 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: he really flashed the generational talent we knew he. 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: Had in year two. 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: I think it certainly helped going from the Urban Meyer 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: debacle in his rookie season to a more you know 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: competent head coach and Doug Peterson, so it was nice 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: to see him break out last year. And I think 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: it goes out saying he gets an upgrade going from 46 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: Marvin Jones junior to Calvin Ridley in the starting three. 47 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: So again, I think just given his immense upside, his 48 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: his sneaky rushing ability, QB eight makes sense. He's just 49 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: sort of like the Justin Herbert type where his rink 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: is correct, but you know, after the top six are 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: off the board makes sense to kind of wait at 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: the position, so he's kind of in the no man's land. 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: I feel like every year QB seven or like QB 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: eleven is always something I shy away from because you 55 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: can wait and get a guy with similar upside later, 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, take a swing on Anthony Richardson. But I 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: really like the top six this year, so I kind 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: of want to draft quarterback early too. So well, I 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: love Lawrence and I have him QB eight. He's just 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: not where i'd like to draft the quarterback in my drafts. 61 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I think you know that's something 62 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: we should kind of point out just bigger picture. You 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: and I were talking about this, but I think the 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: market has sharpened over the over the last few years, 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: so you know, just kind of blindly going late round quarterback. 66 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: I don't really see the options really, like I don't 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: see the selection. Of course, you know, there's not as 68 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: many scramling quarterbacks that we could just get free late, 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: like that was what the strategy was built on. I 70 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: think Anthony Richardson, who will talk about, you know, is 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: you know, he's already creeping up into almost treb one 72 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: status and we don't even know if he's necessarily going 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: to start Week one. So you know, I think drafting 74 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: quarterback higher it does make more sense. But that being said, 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: I do agree. I think there are some things with 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: Lawrence where that are positive. Obviously Ridley, I think the 77 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: defense is still not going to be very good for Jacksonville, 78 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: but you know, there's also a lot of things that 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: went very well for last year, like outside of really 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: no one really missed a game for them, so like 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: he had his you know, full compliment of receivers atn 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: the line is mostly mostly healthy this year. You know, 83 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: you're already looking at uh uh suspension for Robinson and 84 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: h So I think overall Lawrence will be fine, But 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: I agree I think where he's going, I rather wait. 86 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: Usually you can get a guy like Deshaun Watson a 87 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: couple of rounds later, and I just think, you know, 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: Watson has massive upsides, great supporting casts as well. Obviously 89 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: the defense should be better in Cleveland, which does hurt him, 90 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: but overall, yeah, I just think because Lawrence isn't like 91 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: a full on running quarterback, he does run, and he 92 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: did get I think he got what like five six 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: rushing touchdown last year, if I'm not mistaken, But that's 94 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: another thing that's just going to probably regress to the meeting, 95 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: you know. So, yeah, he got he had five rushing touchdowns, 96 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: but he only average seventeen yards a game, which is 97 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: not bad for a quarterback. But you know, if that 98 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: drives up a little bit, I think he'll probably finish 99 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: as a QB win. I wouldn't doubt it. But yeah, 100 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: a little high for my for my liking. Although he 101 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: does have that, he does have that, you know, quarter 102 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 2: top three upside, kind of like a Joe Burrow season 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: in him where he could throw forty four to five touchdowns. 104 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: So not discounting that, but I would still like to wait, 105 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: as you said, and and get a quarterback of a 106 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: couple of rounds later. Once I'm past that, that top 107 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: six kind of slam dunk territory. Okay, Calvin Ridley's wide 108 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: receiver nineteen Christian Kirk is in the top thirty as well. 109 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: What do you think it owes to guys as Lawrence's 110 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: top two targets. 111 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I thought this this is a great landing 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: spot for Caln Ridley. I mean, he gets paired with 113 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: the generational talent like Trevor Lawrence who's about to enter 114 00:05:59,120 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 3: his prime. 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: However, the bark is pretty sharp here. 116 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: I mean that really should be you know, a fringe 117 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: top twenty wide receiver. 118 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: That's where he's being drafted. 119 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: And he isn't coming back from a you know, a 120 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: season long injury that knocked him out last season. He's 121 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: coming back from you know, betting on parlays, so he's 122 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: going to be fully healthy. There's no concern about health 123 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: or anything. So he has a ton of upside. I 124 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: can't fault you taking him at wide receiver twenty, but 125 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: I think Kirk is the better value. You know, he 126 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: probably won't be the number one receiver with really in 127 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: the mix, but I think Kirk has always profiled better 128 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: as sort of a number two wide receiver. Anyway, you know, 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: he's going to benefit possibly from less attention, maybe easier matchups. 130 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: At times. 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: He was the wide receiver eleven last year. This offense 132 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: can certainly support two top twenty four receivers, So I 133 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: think Kirk at wide receiver thirty, I kind of project. 134 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: These guys at this as the same. So getting the 135 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: guy that's ten slots later, I think makes the most sense. 136 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they think about Ridley and I agree. 137 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: I think you know, Ridley has like we've seen his ceiling. 138 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: It's it's very high. And I heard I believe he 139 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: said he played what was it twenty twenty part of 140 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty with a broken foot, which makes it even crazier. 141 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so, uh, you know, we know 142 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: his ceiling is massive, but. 143 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: We also you know, he hasn't played in the year 144 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: he was he looked a little shaky even that, you know, 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: before he got suspended the last time we've seen him play. 146 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: And he's twenty nine, and he's actually the oldest jack 147 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: him and Evan Ingram was the oldest jack skill, which 148 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: is pretty nuts. 149 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: Because I feel like sat Jones has been around for 150 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: over a decade at this Yeah, yeah, he's older. 151 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: Than Jamo Ager do somehow. Yeah, it's nuts, But so 152 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: I think there are some red flags to where you 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: would say, okay, you know it makes sense not to 154 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: just put all your chips in the in the Calvin 155 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: Ridley basket. Another guy who The reason I don't, I don't. 156 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say he's going to be a 157 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: bust or anything is because I think the ceiling we've 158 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: seen eat it. But you know, new team, new quarterback 159 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: hasn't played in a while. There are red flags, right, 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I want some of him, like wide receiver 161 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: twenty but I'm gonna pass up on him and and 162 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: just kind of diversify to a good amount because I'm 163 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: not completely comfortable with it. Whereas Kirk, you know, age 164 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven should be directly in his prime. You know, 165 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: it's probably gonna see the targets go down. Like we said, 166 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: you know, usually the alpha dog k nots everyone down 167 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: under him, so that would be ridly in this case. 168 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: But they start an outside shot, right that that Christian Kirk. 169 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: You know, like if if the red flags would really 170 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: kind of come true, Christian Kirk is the one that's 171 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: gonna benefit the most, right you know? So and Evan 172 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: Ingram who you know? I guess the question with Ingram 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: is what what are your what are your thoughts on him? 174 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: You know, compared to he's tight in nine and ADP. 175 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: He's been floating around the top ten. How you know 176 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: when you compare him to Friar mooth n Djoku, you 177 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: know where you with Ingram compared to those guys, because 178 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: I think that's kind of the choice that most people 179 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: are having to make. 180 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean I love Ingram's upside. He's always 181 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 3: had the talent to be a top five tight end, 182 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: and he really came on the second half of last season, 183 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: which makes sense. He was in on a new team 184 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: with a new quarterback, so he needed to gain some chemistry. 185 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: But he was a tight end two from weeks thirteen 186 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: through eighteen, So I'm going to weigh that a little 187 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: bit heavier heading in this season. 188 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: And like I. 189 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: Mentioned before, he certainly passed the visual test. If you 190 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: watched him during that timeframe, he looked like one of 191 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: the best players out there. So while he's you know, 192 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: struggled with consistencies in his career, tight end eight seems fair, 193 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: but there's a lot of upside here. I think I 194 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: would definitely rather have him over prep Firemouth just because 195 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: that's Steelers offense. I don't want to invest in that 196 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: offense too much. I love Firemuth, but I think just 197 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: in terms of offense, I rather have the Ingram's upside 198 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: in it. And I think i'd still take him over 199 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: a Joku. So, like I said, I think height end 200 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: eight is about fair. I might even consider him over Waller. 201 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: You know, I just don't know if Aller can get 202 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: through a full season at this point, but tight end 203 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: eight does seem fair. I just like taking swings on 204 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: you know, Greg Dolcich, Daltonton Kate a bit later on. 205 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: So it's kind of a tricky area to be drafting 206 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: a tight end early. But I think his ADP's fairly 207 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: priced right now. 208 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, last season was was great down to 209 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: stretch for him, very talented player, but you know, with 210 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: Ridley coming in, you know there's yeah, there's guys that 211 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: could command targets all over the field. So I think 212 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: that the consistency for Ingram is what I question better 213 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: best ball pick a lot more comfortable with him at 214 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: tight end nine because you're not having to choose that. 215 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: In redrafts, I would like to get you know, a 216 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: stud or probably wait, more often than not, that's generally 217 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: going to be my strategy. So not overinvested in Ingram. 218 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: But you know he's you know, he's playing on a 219 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: franchise tag, right, so he still should be motivated, and 220 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: uh yeah he was. Like it kind of reminds me. 221 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: I think you mentioned it like James Connor a couple 222 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: of years ago, when you just watch him, this dude 223 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: has just beasted, Like like, you know, I'm not gonna 224 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: be too worried because like the tape doesn't lie, and 225 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: like this dude the last two months of the season especially, 226 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: he was beasting. And you know, new offense, change the scenery. 227 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: It's a cliche, but in this case, it seems like 228 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: it worked out for him. Zay Jones is probably the 229 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: guy you know, he's going right it right inside the 230 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: top sixty. I think he's the guy I would look 231 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: at is like probably least likely to meet his adp 232 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: out out of his passing game, just because I always 233 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 2: felt like he's kind of overachieved a little. And now 234 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: you put a guy like Ridley in there, and you 235 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: still have Kirk and Evan Ingram was looking like an 236 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: alpha dog too. I just don't see how Jay Jones 237 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: is also a top sixty wide receiver, you know, or 238 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: it offers that consistency even if maybe he doesn't miss 239 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: games and finishes around that you know spot like, I 240 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: just don't think the consistency I will be there with him. 241 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's tricky because I mean, he was a secondund talent. 242 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: It took him what seven seasons finally figure it out, 243 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: So that does you know, that's kind of a red flag. 244 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: You kind of want to see early production in receivers, 245 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: and I do think he takes He takes a massive 246 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: hit with Ridley entering the equation, but he should still 247 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: see you know, ninety percent route participation rates. I can't 248 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: imagine you know, Jamal Agne eating into his role at all. 249 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: And he was the wide receiver twenty six last year. 250 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: So while his production should drop, maybe it won't drop 251 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: this much. But the reason why he does carry some 252 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: upside is just if Ridley, Kirk or Ingram go down 253 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: like any one of those three, you know, he's going 254 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: to move up in the target pecking order. So he 255 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: does have some baked in upside, but I agree, when 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: everyone is healthy, he might get to my top sixty 257 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: most weeks, but he does have, you know, some upside 258 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: in this offensive when those three go down. 259 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned the staff because I've 260 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: been thinking about this for projections. Yeah, last year it 261 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: was Kirk and and and Zay Jones, especially as the 262 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: year when on those two guys are in there almost 263 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: every snap, you know, ninety ninety five percent. But Marvan Jones, 264 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: he was around like mid seventies, you know, seventy five 265 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: you play, you know, three quarters of the snaps, and 266 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: I think Ridley is obviously going to be your number one. 267 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: Kirk played so well that I don't know how you 268 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: keep him up to the fits. So I mean it's possible 269 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: that Zay Joe, I mean, this could happen to Kirk too, 270 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: but you know it's fair to say because he was 271 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: kind of a slot receiver. But I think it's possible 272 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: that that, uh, you know, Jay Jones snaps go down 273 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 2: because you also drafted Bretton Strange, you still got you 274 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: still got Luke Farrow and like all you know, you've 275 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: got like it's like a two tight end kind of 276 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: team where you're like they're gonna have usually four tight 277 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 2: ends active and they're gonna use a good amount of 278 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, two tight in personnel. So that is something 279 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: to kind of keep in mind, which is why another 280 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: reason I'm just not not not as high on on Jones. 281 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he's absolutely gonna be the 282 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: odd man out when push comes a shove. I think 283 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: Marvin Jones his route run rate went down last year. 284 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: It looks like when they were giving Agnew more run 285 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: and Tim Jones, so that that's more of an indictment 286 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: on Marvin Jones. And I just noticed this, But Zay 287 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: Jones had a higher target rate on his roughs run. 288 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure he did. 289 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, well. 290 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, Art said, like really, I there's things 291 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: about Kirk to also like there's red flags about all three, 292 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: but at the same time, there's enough upside, so like 293 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: I get it when I look at it, like when 294 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: I see everyone healthy, especially the way Ingram played and 295 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: the fact that you got Etn there, and you know, 296 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: I just I don't see enough for day Joe, like 297 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: for them to support you know, a top ten tight 298 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: end and then three top sixty receivers, especially if you 299 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: have two in the top thirty. So that that's just 300 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: how I'm looking at it. But yeah, then you know 301 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: they still got Agnew still there. I think Jones is 302 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: still there. They got a who is it? Uh, Parker Washington, 303 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: I believe his name is, So they there's there's some 304 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: it should be interesting, but yeah, da Joe's not a 305 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: guy I'm invested too heavily. And what about Ethen? He's 306 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: RB thirteen two years were moved now from the Liz 307 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Frank injury. Uh, the thing for me was a little concerning. 308 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: You know, it could be nothing, but he only converted 309 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: four of his twenty three carries inside the ten for touchdowns, 310 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: which I wonder if that you know, they started using 311 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: hasty a little bit more like not just on third downs, 312 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: and they drafted Bigsley. So what are your thoughts on 313 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: etn and his role moving forward? Is he gonna be 314 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: that like eighty five percent snap guy that he was 315 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: like right after Robinson left? Or is he because then 316 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: as the season progressed, he had ten games with fifty 317 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: five percent or less snaps like when it was all 318 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: said and done. So what are your how are you 319 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: what's your outlook on ETN. 320 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean he flashed his upside last year, 321 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: which was technically his rookie season, and he he really 322 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: was the workhorse back after they got rid of James 323 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: Robinson in week seven. So Week seven on eat Han 324 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: was RB fifteen, So his ADP looks about right. But 325 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: I would just urge cash with them, you know, for 326 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: being a talented pass catching back, he wasn't used as 327 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: often as I would have liked. You know, he he 328 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: averaged around a fifty five percent routes around rate fourteen 329 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: percent target rate, which is not good. And like you 330 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: just mentioned, they drafted a talented back in third rounder 331 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby, and Bigsby he profiles as an early down 332 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: back like he should not eat into Etn's passing down 333 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: work at all. So I think ETN will still be 334 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: heavily used in passing downs. But that wasn't you know 335 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: the value is providing last year. So and Doug Peterson 336 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: is no stranger to using frustrating running back committee. He's 337 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: just look at the Eagles. So there's a lot of 338 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: redflex for ETN. And he had a five point one 339 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: yards per attempt last year. But Ac quartering to my 340 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: yards expected model, it should have been closer to four 341 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: point six. So I think he's not a guy that 342 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: we could be projecting, like you know, Aaron Jones and 343 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: Nick Chubb around five yards of carry, so he's going 344 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: to see a dip there, I think. And like you mentioned, 345 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: he only scored three touchdowns on thirteen rush attempts inside 346 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: the five. That could either be one or two things 347 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: like he's either due for some positive touchdown regression and 348 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: he'll continue seeing those and I'd be interested in him. 349 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: Or the fact that they drafted a guy like Tank's 350 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: big By means he might concede goal line carries to 351 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: Bigsby this year, which is another red flag. So I'm 352 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: out on ETN at RB thirteen just because I think 353 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: Bigsby is going to be taking away some of those 354 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: key carries and Bigsby, I'll just talk. 355 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: About Bigsby too. 356 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 3: He kind of reminds me of like a Josh Jacobs, 357 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: mainly a Chris Carson type of guy. He's a really 358 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: hard runner, so it does make sense for him to 359 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: eat into Etn's early down work and possibly near the 360 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: goal line. So that's that's kind of why I'm staying 361 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 3: away from Etn. This is like a fringe RB one 362 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: right now. I just can't bring myself to take him there. 363 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, Like we've talked about this on other pods, 364 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: but they're just guys going little weight, Like you know, 365 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon is a guy who's going a little wait 366 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: that I think has kind of the same range of outcomes, 367 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: if not higher floor and stealing than a guy like Etn. 368 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: Very talented, but as you mentioned, I agree, I think 369 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: there's there is some history there with Peterson kind of 370 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: mixing it up with the committee. You know, Peterson's for 371 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: here last year, so you know, now maybe got the 372 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: offense a little more kind of how you want it, 373 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: and you didn't really have an option Lastchrier because Jay, 374 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: I mean, James Robinson's obviously his knees are just blown 375 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: like now that we see him get released from the 376 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 2: already we kind of know, you know, it wasn't just 377 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: to get ETN like ninety percent snaps last year. It 378 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: was like this, They just couldn't go forward with Robinson. 379 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: But remember jamiael Hasty is still on still on a roster, 380 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: and he got quite a bit of burn last year. 381 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: So they're like there is some competition, and you know, 382 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: even Bigsy I think, you know, I loved him as 383 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: a sleeper early in the off season. He was in 384 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: like this art the sixties. I was like, all right, 385 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: now he's like almost fairly priced at fifty one. I mean, 386 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: you know, like cause like he could open the year 387 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: as the third back, even a four spring back. I mean, 388 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: you got these they sign Dras Johnson to a contract, 389 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: he might you know, he might make your team play 390 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: special teams. Like I always look out for that because, 391 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: like you know, sometimes you know, you have three active 392 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: backs and there's gonna be an odd man out. So 393 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: I'm still kind of watching this situation now, but I 394 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 2: do like the upside of Bigsby. It's just there are 395 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: other guys that also could kind of complicate this situation 396 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: as of as of now. 397 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, where Bigsby goes, you know, that's kind of all 398 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: the running backs in that range kind of need the 399 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: starter to go down to have value. But there's a 400 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: potential there for him to carve out James Robinson type 401 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: role and there's just not that many guys in that range. 402 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: I can you know say that about Yeah, So he 403 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: does I think he does carry a decent floor ceiling 404 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: comma on that range, but like you said, he used 405 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: to be in the sixties, right, so the markets is 406 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 3: getting sharp, right, I think, you know, I'd probably be 407 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: out if he gets into the forties. But again, in 408 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: this range, you have Penny Gagoll there, Like, I'm never 409 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: going to take him take bigsb. So it just depends 410 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: what you're trying to achieve. But I still think he's 411 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: a value in the early fifties. 412 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean fair, you know, it's just like it's 413 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: just one of those things where you kind of got 414 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: a monitor because like there's gonna what I'm saying is 415 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: right now, there's quite a few guys I see in 416 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: that range that are like going to open years, like 417 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: the RB three of the team, which is just not 418 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: what I want to be taking. Like I still would 419 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: prefer to take like you know, RB two on a team, right, 420 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: just just makes more sense. But yeah, all right, so 421 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: Jacksonville three, cap who do you like? Uh Sleepers values 422 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: on the Jags? 423 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: I would say Tank Bigsby and uh, you know, Christian 424 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: Kirk going ten spots later then really make the most 425 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: sense you know to target on this team. 426 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: I think they're the ones offering the most value right now. 427 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. Yeah, I don't like. I think 428 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: everyone's pretty fairly valued actually for Jacksonville, for for Busts, 429 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: for me, or guy's over valued guys, it's day Jones. 430 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: I just think I just don't see him top sixty. 431 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: If if everyone's fairly healthy, what about you? 432 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 3: I gotta go with It's the end. I'm onstly a 433 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: couple of ranks off. So it's not like I would 434 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: never take this guy ever, but he just has a 435 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: lower floor, yeah, than other guys in this range because 436 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: of all the reasons you know we laid out. 437 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a couple of ranks could be all the 438 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: difference because you know, with every you know rank you're off, 439 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: that floor gets wide. With the range of the potential 440 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: to hit that floor gets uh, you know, increases. All right, 441 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: let's go to the Titans. Tannehill's QB thirty two, will 442 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: Levis's QB thirty four that the second rounder out of 443 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: Kentucky Mawek. Willis is apparently ahead of Levis on the 444 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: depth chart. Remember now, now there are some changes we 445 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: should talk about with the Titans. John Robinson's gone to 446 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: former GM apparently in like it was like a power 447 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: struggle between him and variable. So he's gone now, and 448 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 2: also Tim Kelly comes replaces, he gets promoted and replaces 449 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: Todd Downing at offensive coordinator, so you know, Kelly's familiar 450 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 2: with Vrabel from their Houston days. They you know, so 451 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: there that should be kind of a continuation, but it 452 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: just seems like things are gonna be a little more 453 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: where Rabe wants this year. So I don't know that 454 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: it has it kind of affected we know what Tennessee 455 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: wants to do. They want to run about Derek Henry playout. Yeah, 456 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: but has this kind of anything kind of affected your 457 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: projections and what's your outlook on on just this quarterback situation, 458 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 2: Because I've been very vocal and say I don't think 459 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: the Titans are tanking. I don't think Levis has overtaken Tannehill, 460 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: and it kind of confirms it with Willis even getting 461 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: that nod at a at QB too, because they bench 462 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: it for Josh Dallas last year. So like, I don't 463 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: know what if that, you know, the fact that down 464 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: is done, effect, that Robinson's gone, effect that we notice 465 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: a power struggle. I am kind of prepared, just like, see, go, okay, 466 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: something's gonna be different. You know, I'm not just gonna 467 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: kind of copy and paste what they did last year. 468 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of curious. It's your outlook on on 469 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: this offense for twenty twenty three. 470 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree with you where they're not 471 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: going to try to tank, like they're gonna be good 472 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: enough to win a handful of games. So I don't 473 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: see a scenario really where they're you know, they're just 474 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: benching Tannehill because they're you know, one to nine and 475 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: love this is gonna take over. So I think, you know, 476 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 3: I'm projecting Tannehill around fifteen games. 477 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm just being safe there. 478 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: But I don't think he's gonna get yanked halfway through 479 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: the season. I don't think Levis is good enough to 480 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: warrant that, especially as a rookie. So I'm still like 481 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: I I probably will not go out of my way 482 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: to draft Tannehill, but if he's there at QB thirty two, 483 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: I would absolutely consider it. Because all those guys in 484 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: that range you can't say, you know for certainty that 485 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: they're going to start sixteen games. So I think Tannehill 486 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: might be the safer bet. But the thing with Tannahill 487 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: is he just doesn't offer the same rushing up side anymore. 488 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: He only ran for more than twenty yards once last season, 489 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: so he's already in a run heavy offense with not 490 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 3: many weapons in the passing game. 491 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: So he just has a lower floor than usual this season. 492 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: And to be honest, there is a chance obviously, he 493 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: does get benched for Levis at some point, so he's 494 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: not like a sexy pick in this range. But you know, 495 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: if you want a safer QB three option, maybe stack 496 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: him with Burks or konk Wu. 497 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: You know that makes sense. 498 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: But I think QB threey two is still a little 499 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: bit low. I think people a little too bullish on Levis, 500 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 3: like starting games before week thirteen. I just don't see 501 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: it happening. 502 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of the shiny new toy thing 503 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: I've been vocal. I already have a future vision. 504 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the division right, yeah. Uh. 505 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: You know, obviously if they do get Hopkins, which you know, 506 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: not completely out of the question, but I think New 507 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: England looks like the favorite now you know that that's 508 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: obviously a plus, But the fact that they're even looking 509 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: for a receiver like That is good because I think 510 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: that's obviously the weakness in this Tennessee offense. You know, 511 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: outside of trailing burkes, they're kind of short on receivers. 512 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree, I think Tannehill was a value 513 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: at thirty two. I don't think he gets benched. You know, 514 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: he even last year, I mean seven point eight yards 515 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: in attempts that was that was right, you know, that's 516 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: that's pretty good. Twelve yards of completion pretty good, sixty 517 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: five percent completion pretty good, and and oh right on 518 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: his numbers, you know generally that he's been putting up 519 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: with Tennessee. So and also the rushing thing. I remember, 520 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: so I was betting a lot of Tannehill unders rushing 521 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: last year. That might be a downing thing. So there's 522 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: a they're actually in some upside too. Like I said, 523 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: like there's something was going on with Rabel and his 524 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: coaches and his GM and like just the way they 525 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: were building that offense, and I think Ray will kind 526 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: of you know, that was the reason they went from 527 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: seven to three to out of the playoffs, just the offense. 528 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: So the defense, you still got Jeffery Simmons, you still 529 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: got a lot of ballers, on a defense. So I 530 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: think Rabel's kind of taking more control of that. So 531 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: that's why I said I wouldn't just copy paste. I 532 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't just assume that because Cannon Hill stop running, he's 533 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: he might actually run more. So, Yeah, I like the upside. 534 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 2: I like this swear ceiling floor combo with Tannehill at 535 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: thirty two, because it's no floor. The receivers, I mean 536 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: Treylon Burks go up to wide receiver thirty six. I 537 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: think he's a year two week candidate. Last six games 538 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: he had u you know, four plus catches sixty six 539 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 2: plus yards in half of them and one of them 540 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: was hurt. To really last three out of five he 541 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: did that, so he was kind of putting up those 542 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: you know, number one wide receiver you know, target numbers 543 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: late in the year. Now. Obviously the fact that they're 544 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: Courtney Hopkins isn't great. But you know, how are you 545 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: kind of ranking Burks, you know, giving all the circumstances. 546 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I like him in this range. 547 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: You know, even though the Titans will be a run 548 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: heavy team again, you know, he offers a really high 549 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: floor just because he should be the number one target 550 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: in this offense, and he also carries a nice ceiling. 551 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: We just we just saw him flash at times last year. 552 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: He wasn't able to stay healthy. But you know, from 553 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: what I saw, he matches the film I saw in college. 554 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: So I think in this range, like, absolutely take a 555 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: shot at him. I rather have him than Jackson Smith Jigba, 556 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: who's going right around there. 557 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna be the number three target, yep in his offense. 558 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: So in this range, you still need a high floor 559 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: because when you're in the top forty, you're you're probably 560 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: drafting your wide receiver three, you're starting to fill out 561 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: your bench. So I do still value floor, and Burke's 562 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: just has a good floor ceiling combo. 563 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love the upside getting him here, and 564 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: it would make sense. 565 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: And if you're in best ball, Dan Hill doesn't offer 566 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: that high of a ceiling, but stacking him with Burkes 567 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: obviously makes a ton of sense. 568 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Burke should be a massive target, Like there's you know, 569 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: probably not raw targets, but in target share for this team, 570 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: BUR's could be near the top of the league. And 571 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 2: that's that's always a positive because even if even if 572 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: you're not getting like even if you're not on a 573 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: passing team just being you know, like a twenty five 574 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: thirty percent weekend week out guy. You're gonna be consistent, 575 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: and that's kind of what we saw down the stretch 576 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: a little bit from Burke. So yeah, I like Burke's 577 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: obviously the one caveat Hopkins. You know, that would big dent, 578 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: but you know the fact that he had the meeting 579 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: and they now it seems like New England. Hopefully he 580 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: doesn't go there. I'm not as concerned as like like 581 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: a Dalvin Cook going to like Miami or something like that, 582 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: but something to keep in mind. But yeah, I think 583 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: Burke's either way major breakout candidate, could take a big 584 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: step forward, a lot better from what I hear, a 585 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: lot better offseason than last, which is hard, but that's 586 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: that's great for him. Tom Phillips and Westbrook A Kine 587 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: going outside the top one hundred, well, so probably is 588 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: the slot either way, right, Like, yeah, probably, So, I 589 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: mean there's a deep, deep bpre league. There's probably some 590 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: upside there because I mean he he had like one 591 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: game and he caught over a half dozen passes or not. 592 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: I think it was nine passes, right, yeah, and like 593 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: nine targets or something. Yeah, So he was heavily involved 594 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: as a slot guy. I don't know how much slot 595 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna use, but they did say that one of 596 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: the changes they want to make to the offense is 597 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: have guys that can like play on more downs and 598 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 2: not tip runner pass. So maybe they do go with 599 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: some more three wide sets. Who knows, but I think Phillips, 600 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: you know, kind of monitoring him in deep deep PPR. 601 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: But I know the guy we both love is uh 602 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: Chicka Congo at tight end up to tight end twelve. 603 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: I don't mind it. Twenty six percent target for route 604 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: last year two point six yards per route run on 605 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: thirty two percent of the route. So obviously you can 606 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: expect some regression in the efficiency as the usage goes up. 607 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: But he had all the underlying metrics that we look for. 608 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: And I think if there's anyone that could turn into 609 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: like a Goddard level or better this year, it's him. 610 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 611 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know, he came on late in his 612 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: rookie season and there was really just a three week 613 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: sweet spot where he's you know, he saw his routes 614 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: run rate hover around fifty five percent. I think it 615 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: could be higher this year, and he was tight end 616 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: two over that stretch. So the only thing holding him 617 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: back last season was his playing time and that shouldn't 618 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: be an issue this year with Austin Hooper gone. So 619 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: I'm projecting him to get you know, sixty to seventy 620 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: percent routes run rate aby higher. I mean, God, if 621 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: he can get up to like ninety percent, you know, 622 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: his top five upside. So I'm being cautious around sixty percent. 623 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: And he's still my tight end ten there, so I 624 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: think that that's right about. 625 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Where his median would be. 626 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: So while the ADP has crept up, I think twelve 627 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: is the highest it's been. I think at one point 628 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: he was just outside the top fifteen. Either way, the 629 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: market's sharpening up, but I still like him here right, 630 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: I think he should be inside the top ten, and 631 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: like you said, he does have gotter you know, top 632 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: five kind of upside. 633 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when I think about him, I think 634 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: two guys. I think that that one Johnner Smith year 635 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. I think it was twenty 636 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: where Johnnre you know, put up a top ten season, 637 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: and then I also think about Delanny Walker and and 638 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: how you know, de Walker was another really explosive guy 639 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: that could you know, take House a touchdown. And he 640 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: was getting you know, seventy eighty percent routes in his 641 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: heyday with the Titans. And I think, you know, from 642 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: what I'm hearing about the changes to the offense, one 643 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: thing they're saying is we want guys that are not 644 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: you know, gonna tip off our play calls. And so 645 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: you know, they got Hooper was like kind of a 646 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: pass only guy, like he wasn't really gonna block, and 647 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: then they had him, you know, Jeff Swain who was 648 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: really not going to catch. So like it seems like 649 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: Okonko has a good chance to play like true every 650 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: down snaps, you know, and that would get I would 651 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: put him seventy eighty percent routes run just massive up. 652 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, if he plays eighty percent 653 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: into the eighties plus like twenty six percent targets per route, 654 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: here's a chance he could finish as the number one 655 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: target on the team, even over birts, you know, some 656 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: variants there. So yeah, I love him. He's the guy. 657 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: I encourage people Dynasty acquire him, best Ball draft him. Now, 658 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: I think the price, the price of the Conquo brick 659 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: is only gonna go up. So, uh, the running back 660 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: situation Derrick Henry, I think Derrick Henry is kind of 661 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: getting disrespected, like I don't know. I mean it's like, yeah, 662 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: obviously you want to get ahead of the decline. He's 663 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: gonna be twenty nine entering year eight, but like you 664 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: have to like there's nothing from watching Derrick Henry play 665 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: or looking at his numbers like still going strong, you know. 666 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: So yes, he could just get injured and like you 667 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: missed a ton of games. But I don't think he's 668 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: gonna suddenly fall for Clifand I actually think the olan 669 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: is gonna be better. So, you know, running back six, 670 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: I'll take him all day. And he's usually going you know, 671 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: running back six, but like into the second round as 672 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: well in a lot of drafts. So uh, yeah, I'm one. 673 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm on Derrick Henry. What about you? 674 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think height end six sounds about right. 675 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: But running back you think he's still thinking. 676 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, running back six sounds about right. 677 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: You know, he is gonna be twenty years old and 678 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: he's seen such massive volume. This is about when I 679 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: said he should start to decline, But I mean the 680 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: workloads should still be there. He still has you know, 681 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: double digit touchdown upside. It was niceing up to in 682 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: receiving usage last season. However, I think rookie TJ. Spears 683 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: could eat into that, and the Titans still have one 684 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: of the worst offensive lines, So I mean, Henry's gonna 685 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: have to earn his yards and he's probably gonna have 686 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: fewer game scripts. 687 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: You know. 688 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't think the Titans are gonna tank, but there 689 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: they're win totals at seven and a half, so he 690 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: might see less positive game scripts. So there is some 691 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: concerns there, But at the end of the day, just 692 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: based on sure volume, I still have him as my 693 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: ERB six. 694 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: Hey, I just don't see like the floor, Like, yeah, 695 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: he could get injured like all running bucks can. But 696 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: I actually don't think Spears is gonna eat into it 697 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: at all. I think they're given this guy twenty plus 698 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: carries as long as they can give him twenty plus carries, 699 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 2: and everything else is gonna fall behind. Now. I think 700 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: Spears was because again, like the GM is gone, Robinson 701 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: has gone, and I know he drafted Haskins last year. 702 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: Has nothing really came with Haskins. I just think that 703 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: was kind of a Haskins replacement. So like Spears is 704 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: going fifty five, Haskins going eighty seven, I think that's 705 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: more or less correct. Spears doesn't have like I think 706 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't have eight and ac yell on one of 707 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: his knees or something. But I see that he seemed 708 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: to produce pretty well, so I think he'll get a shot. 709 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: But that that's obviously something to monitor. You always want 710 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: that that Henry handcuff if you can get if there's 711 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: like one, so that that that's a battle to monitor. 712 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think Spears is winning that. But yeah, 713 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not as worried about Henry yet. He'll 714 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: probably take a step back in efficiency this year and 715 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: then next year will probably be lowered, but it's far see, 716 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: like I just don't see him, like he's not like 717 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: overvalued in my opinion, Like he's properly probably. 718 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're yeah, you're absolutely right. 719 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: And just in terms of backups, I think Haskins is 720 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: more of the the Henry backup and to TODJ. Spears 721 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: is like the Dontrell Hilliar replacement. I do think he 722 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 3: could get some passing down work right away. He reminds 723 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: me of Michael Carter actually, and they took him in 724 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 3: the third round. Like like you said, he he suffered 725 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 3: a couple of ACL tears, some cartilage loss, he has 726 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 3: arthritis in one of his knees. They removed his ACL 727 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 3: or actually gone, so he's not It's unlikely he's gonna 728 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 3: have a long career. So if they took him in 729 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: the third round, they probably want to use him in 730 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: the first few seasons. Like they probably knew that going in. 731 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: So I think he will, you know, see a lot 732 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: of passing down work. Specifically, you're one. I don't see him, 733 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 3: you know, eating into Henry's early down work, but it's 734 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: the passing down work I think Spears is likely to 735 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: take over. 736 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, what who do we like? Undervalued on the 737 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: Titans Sleepers? 738 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Chick. I gotta go Chick. 739 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: Even though he's tight end twelve, I mean the value 740 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: is almost yeah, but still he should be in the 741 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: top ten. 742 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I said, I think he's the only 743 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: guy that has like that upside that could match like 744 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: a Goddard or you know, any of those guys going 745 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: in top six. So yeah, yeah, I'm fine taking him 746 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: anywhere really outside of there, and you can still get 747 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: them after, you know, that like Nadjoku and yeah room Tiers. 748 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, love Jig, that's that's that's my guy. And 749 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: what about for for bus? 750 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: Uh, no one really, I mean Dannel Hillett give me 751 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 3: thirty two. Well that's the least sexy pick possible. I 752 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: think it's a great value. Uh they're starting slot receiver 753 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 3: and starting outside receiver. You can get them outside of 754 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 3: the top hundred mm hmm at wide receiver. So I 755 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: don't see anybody that's like overvalued. So I no one's 756 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 3: a bust in this team. Not saying you should invest 757 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 3: heavily in this team. Uh, but yeah, like everybody seems 758 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: fairly priced or undervalued. 759 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Actually Tannier is another guy forgotten in terms 760 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: of sleepers. But yeah, Tanners underva. I think will I 761 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 2: was just overve to be thirty four. We're just having 762 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 2: like he's gonna like start eight games. He's behind Milik 763 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: Willis right now, give me a break. Yeah, this guy's 764 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,479 Speaker 2: not you know, this is not like the second Comedy 765 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: of Joe Montana or anything exactly. Love But let's let's 766 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 2: go to a team with an exciting quarterback, and that's 767 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson for the Colts. Q BE fourteen. Shane Stikeen 768 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 2: was the OC was the OC, and Philly developed Jalen Hurts. 769 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 2: He's the head coach. Now you've got Jim Bob Kuter, 770 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: a old friend. He's back in OC. He former, you know, 771 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: did some work with Stafford on the Lions. But yeah, 772 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: I mean Richardson gotta love a rookie with a strong 773 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: arm and subscram whing a lot of scram won a booty. 774 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Right yeah. So wait, his his ADP's up to fourteen. 775 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, yeah, no discounts, no discounts. 776 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, it's it's getting up there. Uh, you know, 777 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: I love the landing spot. You know, Shane Stiken recently helped, uh, 778 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 3: you know, develop Jalen Hurts. And that's kind of the 779 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: upside I see in Anthony Richardson. 780 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just an absolute freak. 781 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: Uh and he probably gonna need some time to develop 782 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: as a passer the A level. But that just means 783 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 3: he might lean on his legs even more on day one, 784 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 3: similar to what we saw, you know, justin Fields Jalen 785 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: Hurts earlier in his career. 786 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: Yep. 787 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: So the only downside really is he might not be 788 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: the week one starter. 789 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he doesn't. 790 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: Have to be at this ADP. 791 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 3: I mean he has if we're being honest, he has 792 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 3: top six upside even as rookie. I would say top 793 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: ten upside is more fair. So I would still take 794 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: him there because I don't think this is going to 795 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 3: be a Trey Lance situation where Gardner Minshew just ends 796 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 3: up starting all season like Jimmy Jimmy g did for 797 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 3: Lance's rookie season. So I like the idea of taking 798 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 3: him in best ball. You know, the first few weeks, 799 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 3: if he puts up a zero. 800 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: Won't kill you. 801 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: You can get him pretty cheap there still, So I 802 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: love taking him still at this price. 803 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 1: I think once he gets to QB. 804 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 3: Twelve, I might shy away, but I think the upside 805 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: is certainly there. 806 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like that's the only thing. 807 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: You know. 808 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: In best ball, it's a little more of a risk 809 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 2: because you might not you know, you might be he 810 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: might be better for like your three quarterback teams. If 811 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna do that kind of build in a basketball 812 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: you kind of mitigate some of that risk of him 813 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: not starting early. Of course, if you if you also 814 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: have like another stud, that's also fine. But yeah, either way. 815 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: I think that's that's the only downside. You gotta love 816 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: a quarterback that can essentially put up Jamonen Hurt's numbers, 817 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: Like it's not gonna happy yet, but most likely will 818 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: happen it, you know, something poser to like. But like 819 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 2: Justin Fields did on average in his first two years, 820 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: like rbly not as bad as Field's first year, but yeah, 821 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: a second. But the upside is just so high. And 822 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: we've talked about this, the weight round quarterback, you know, 823 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: outside that top ten, it's not really there the way 824 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: it was in the years past, you know, I mean 825 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 2: we're excited about like Jared goffic to be fifteen and 826 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: Geno Smith, so like those guys don't run. So, yeah, 827 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 2: the price is a little rich, and probably you know, 828 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: given the outcome range of outcome for games played, probably 829 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: a little overpriced. But when you factor in the upside, 830 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: especially at this position where a lot of people start 831 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 2: one quarterback, it's just so the upside of hit of 832 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 2: him hitting you know, hitting on him right away is 833 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: just so high that yeah, I think he did. Take 834 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: your shots with him and figure out, you know, whether 835 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 2: it's streaming, whether it's drafting another quarterback, in bast ball 836 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: figure out how to get around it if he's you know, 837 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: not in the lineup early on in the year, Michael 838 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: Pittman going around wide receiver twenty four, Alex Pierce at 839 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: wide receiver sixty six. They drafted Josh Downs out of 840 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: North Carolina, he's at eighty three, and then Isaiah McKenzie, 841 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 2: who they signed to a one year, one point two 842 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 2: million dollar contract but only four hundred K guarantee, which 843 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: tells me that Downs could take over sooner than later 844 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 2: for McKenzie, probably starting slot though, But I don't Pierce 845 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: od it. I think Pierce, you know again, I always 846 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: think these year two breakout guys a little bit undervalued, 847 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 2: and just the more vertical offense, you know, with Richardson, 848 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: I think could help here. So I think he's the 849 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 2: guy that sticks out value wise to me. What a 850 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 2: I you amongth these wide receivers. 851 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, If I'm making a Anthony Richardson stack, I 852 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 3: think Pierce makes the most sense where he's going. I 853 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 3: think Pittman is a little rich at wide receiver twenty four. Obviously, 854 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 3: I love the talent. He was the wide receiver twenty 855 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: three last year despite the QB situation for the Colts 856 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 3: being a disaster, And like I said, Richardson's a pretty 857 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 3: raw talent as a passer, so he's gonna lean on 858 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 3: his legs a ton, so that that's gonna probably ding 859 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 3: Pittman a bit. 860 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: I also don't think. 861 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 3: There's gonna be as many passing touchdowns to go around. 862 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 3: Pittman will certainly help unlock Anthony Richardson's upside, but I 863 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: don't think I'm taking Pittman in the top twenty four. 864 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: So I think it does make sense to take a 865 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 3: guy like Pierce who will be a mainstay in the 866 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 3: starting lineup, closer to wide receiver sixty five. 867 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: So love that for stacks. 868 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, Toty Green And I even heard a quote from 869 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: the Bowards GM They're like, you know, is Pittman like 870 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 2: a number one guy that's gonna like score a touchdown 871 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: every time he gets the ball? Like no, but he's 872 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: still a great receiver, so you know he got it. 873 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: One of those kind of sounded like you would rather 874 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: have Pittman is like a long term number two, which 875 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 2: you know, probably does make some sense. I mean, he's 876 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: he's a great receiver, but not necessarily the most explosive guy. 877 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: Well technically, I don't think any receiver is going to 878 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 3: be scoring a touchdout every time they touched the ball. 879 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a pretty high artist set. 880 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but Patman has had his struggles with 881 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 2: touchdowns throughout his career. Weird just eleven on three hundred 882 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: and thirty one targets, so it hasn't been a touchdown guy. 883 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 2: But yeah, like Pierce tight end, uh, lot of tight 884 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: ends here, got Barrel Brown got signed, and they drafted 885 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: U Mallory and you know, they still got Brandson here, 886 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: still got cocks here. But I think July Woods sticks out. 887 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: You know, last week nine on he had twenty four 888 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: percent target per route rate in two yards per route 889 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 2: run and that was up from just a nine percent 890 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: for his first eight weeks nine percent targets per route 891 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: and and a point and nine yard per route run. 892 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 2: So he really kind of broke out in the second half. 893 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 2: And you know, headed into year two, he's query the 894 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: most talented tight end. He's going to t thirty one, 895 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 2: so there's not really much downside. I do think he 896 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 2: starts again, and I think he has some upside to 897 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 2: be to be pretty productive. 898 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and you know, it wouldn't be a Colts 899 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 3: team if they didn't have seven tight ends in the shuffle. 900 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 3: But I think Woods, I think we're gonna finally see 901 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 3: true number one emerge. You know, I love loved Woods 902 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 3: heading in his rookie season. I think my comp for 903 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 3: him was Jared Cook, and he definitely flashed that kind 904 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 3: of upside as a rookie. I think he's the best 905 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 3: of the group. Like you said, tight end thirty one 906 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: is the time to take a flare flaer on a 907 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 3: guy like this. If they tailor this around the Eagles offense, 908 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: you know that's been great for tight ends. 909 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: So love that. 910 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think even though this is always usually 911 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 3: pretty murky, you know, Kylon Granson could make some noise 912 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 3: boat Mallley Cox obviously as a red zone threat, I think, 913 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 3: you know, taking a chance on Woods being a potential, 914 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: you know, top fifteen tight end makes sense in this range. 915 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant didn't actually may be competing for a 916 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 2: ross spot with the Mallory the guy they drafted, so 917 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: he's not even a lot to make the roster, and 918 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: then talks they were actively trying to trade him, and 919 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: then they brought in fool Brown, who actually is not 920 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 2: even that old. I feel like foul Brown's been in 921 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: the league for like twenty years. I think he's still 922 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: under thirty two. So like there's a chance to go 923 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 2: into the year with like Woods, Mallory and and Brown. Yeah, 924 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: you know, so it's uh, yeah, I'm not I'm not 925 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: worried about the vets on, I guess no. 926 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, to being clear, I'm not worried about Grants. 927 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 3: I never thought, you know, he was that he was 928 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 3: a fourth round pick, but you know, they wanted to 929 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 3: make him happen. 930 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: I think it was a couple of years. It agoes rookie. 931 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,479 Speaker 3: Season, but he's not even close to doing his talent 932 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 3: as Jolnny Wood. 933 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: So I think just this is the year. I think the. 934 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 3: Talent prevails and we could see Woods as you know, 935 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 3: sixty five percent routes run tight end, which was plenty 936 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 3: for him or higher. 937 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 2: I mean, look at like Steichen's offense with Goddard. Goddard 938 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: like finally his eighty five percent that we were like 939 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 2: hoping for for like five years. So yeah, you know, 940 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 2: here's some upside there. And yeah, so yeah, Taylor, Jonathan Taylor, 941 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 2: are we five He's the guy I think you mentioned 942 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 2: that you had. There were a couple of guys you 943 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 2: had over Taylor. I think it was Barkley and somebody else, 944 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, I kind of agree with you. You know, 945 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 2: I think Taylor is a little bit We can't just 946 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: assume he's gonna go back to that Frank Wright like 947 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 2: massive work with because he even kind of hinted that 948 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: he said, hey, you know, like there it's gonna be 949 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 2: like a little bit of a lessons more approach this 950 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 2: year with me, like I got to be more efficient. 951 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: But it it kind of sounded like they weren't gonna 952 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 2: just you know, give him like twenty carries and keep 953 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 2: him on the fiel like ninety percent of time. And 954 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 2: you look at Stichen and you know who who is 955 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 2: kind of barking this offseason that hey, you know, I 956 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 2: didn't really get as much work as I felt I 957 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 2: should despite performing well. Miles Sanders and you could see 958 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,479 Speaker 2: Taylor and a Miles Sanders like roll where he still 959 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 2: gets a lot of carries on good game scripts, but 960 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: you know, not as quite as much passing work. And 961 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 2: after a year which he was kind of in and 962 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: out line up a little bit, they're probably looking toward that. 963 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 2: So I don't want to say Tay was going to 964 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: be a bust, but I don't. I'm just not expecting 965 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 2: what we saw when he was like the overall rby one. 966 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be the I don't think 967 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 2: that's the intent with him this year. 968 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: What about you? 969 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, So I'm in line with his adp here 970 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: to be clear of Saquan number three. Then I think 971 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 3: it's a toss up between Taylor. 972 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: And Bijon Robinson. And yeah, I kind of take your 973 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: point with Taylor. 974 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 3: You know, injuries kind of derailed last season for him, 975 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 3: but he was RB twenty five and points per game, 976 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 3: which is not great. But he's too talented not to 977 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 3: bounce back. And he's also been durable. I think before 978 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 3: last season he had never missed a practice or a 979 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 3: game at any level. So I don't think he's gonna 980 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 3: be some injury risk going forward, not more than any 981 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 3: other back, So I think he'll bounce back. Plus, the 982 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 3: Colts offensive line had a really rough twenty twenty two. 983 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 3: They should bounce back this season. And I think having 984 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 3: a rushing quarterback like Richardson probably won't hurt JT too much. 985 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 3: You know, defenses won't be able to you know, stack 986 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 3: the bucks for JT specifically, and he's never really leaned 987 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 3: on receiving work much anyway, So I don't think he's 988 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: gonna getdang too much. So I think running back five 989 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 3: seems fair. I really think it comes down to, like, 990 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: do you want to take him or the upside in 991 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 3: Jhon Robinson year one? So like, I think I'm fine 992 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 3: with RB five, but like you said, I'm not falling 993 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 3: over myself take him there. 994 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 2: I actually think go Derek Henry going after him is egregious. 995 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: I think, oh see, you would have Henry four or five. 996 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 2: I would have Henry, Yeah, I would have Henry had 997 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 2: a Bejon two, But I would have had of yeah 998 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: yeah because yeah, because like again with Terry, like the 999 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 2: new offense, we're not sure what's going on. They're hinting 1000 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 2: at using him West if they might not score a 1001 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 2: lot of touchdowns his passing game, you should probably be 1002 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 2: at all time low because even though Ward is gone, 1003 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 2: I mean uh not word name Hines. Let's thinking of Heines. 1004 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 2: Word Hines. Name. Heines is gone. Like you've mentioned this 1005 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: so many times, these he scramlin quarterbacks just aren't out 1006 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: here checking to the backs, you know. So I'm sure 1007 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 2: he'll get his screen, you know, like a design screen 1008 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 2: to get him loose, probably once a game. But yeah, 1009 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 2: I just I think Taylor's I just don't like, you know, 1010 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: so people are down on guys like Aaron Jones and 1011 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon, and I just I actually don't see that 1012 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: much difference between those guys and Taylor, that's all, you know. 1013 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 2: Whereas I with Derek Henry, I'm pretty positive that giving 1014 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 2: full what, given full health, he's gonna get twenty carries 1015 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 2: a game. I can't say that with Taylor. Who was 1016 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 2: you know, he went from nineteen and a half two 1017 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 2: years ago to seventeen and a half last year, and 1018 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 2: we could that could fall again. So yeah, yeah, that's 1019 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: I am a little worried about him. You know, moss 1020 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 2: Evan Hall, the rookie, one of those guys probably back 1021 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: them up. We've got just got to watch, uh watch 1022 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: the camp battle for that. But uh yeah, sweepers undervalued guys. 1023 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 2: I think Rick Shardson still just for the upside hears 1024 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 2: and Joanie Woods for me, how about you? 1025 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta go with Richardson and Woods as well. 1026 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: And then for for Bus, I mean, I would say 1027 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 2: for me, Tailors is a little like I don't think 1028 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 2: he's gonna flat out Bus, but I don't think he's 1029 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 2: worked like the RB four or five. I think he's 1030 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: gonna be a little more of a normal like mid 1031 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 2: range low end RB one, even maybe even full into 1032 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: RB two depending who else kind of breaks out. What 1033 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 2: about you, I. 1034 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: Gotta go with Michael Pittman. 1035 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 3: I just see him as a solid wide receiver three. 1036 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 3: You know, if I'm stacking Richardson, it's gonna be with 1037 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,720 Speaker 3: either Pierce or Woods. 1038 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: I think either way, you. 1039 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 3: Know, Pittman's gonna have a good season, but he just 1040 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 3: has a lower floor than normal. With Richardson possibly starting, 1041 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 3: you know, fifteen plus games. 1042 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I rather invest in Richardson than yeah, than 1043 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: the coach number one receiver. Okay, Texans C J. Stroud, 1044 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on kind of this kind of overhaul? 1045 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: Uh? 1046 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 2: For me, I think what I see know Dmika Ryan's 1047 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: head coach, Robby sloweck Oc Stroud drafted uh second. Overall, 1048 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this roster and I think people are 1049 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 2: gonna be surprised about the Texans this year. They're gonna 1050 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: be very competitive. This is not a tanking team anymore. 1051 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 2: They traded you know, their uh first round at Arizona 1052 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 2: next year. They essentially have no incentive to tank. And 1053 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 2: he added a lot more veterans like just around the 1054 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 2: roster to make them competitive that they hadn't been doing 1055 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: a years past. Like you know, they got like a 1056 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 2: Jimmy Ward and a Robert Wood. They just guys who 1057 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: you know, you don't add if you're just straight up 1058 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 2: trying to tank. Like so, I think the Texas will 1059 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: be better than people think. But how are you kind 1060 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: of looking at them? 1061 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1062 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 3: And are are they still in the running with uh 1063 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins at all. 1064 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,280 Speaker 1: From the top three? 1065 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I said. I think that 1066 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 2: was more just because of the like just like the 1067 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 2: Browns where it's like the connection with Watson, it's like 1068 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 2: the just the reunited thing. Perhaps I'm not as worried, 1069 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 2: but I also not really don't really like it's not 1070 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 2: I'm not running out to drafting his receivers. I guess 1071 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: the only person that would be would be like Stroud Droud. Yeah, 1072 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: and I should mention, you know, Davis Mills is still here. 1073 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 2: Make sime Case Ketam. So like if Stroud isn't Stroud, 1074 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: I might might not start, probably will start Reek one, 1075 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 2: but might not. Just what your thoughts on Shroud just yeah, 1076 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 2: I think yeah. 1077 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he should be the I think he 1078 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 3: will be the weak one starter, but like you said, 1079 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 3: there is some competition there. They want him to earn 1080 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 3: it obviously, and he's athletic, but he's he's more of a. 1081 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: True pocket passer. 1082 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, so his ceiling might not be as high as well, 1083 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 3: certainly not as high as Anthey Richardson, but might not 1084 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 3: be as high as Bryce Young either year one anyway, 1085 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 3: but he could develop. I mean, he's a really good 1086 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 3: pocket passer. He could be more of a Joe Burrow 1087 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill type or he'll he'll pick up yards of 1088 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 3: his legs when needed. But you know that's not the 1089 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 3: reason you dropped him. 1090 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: So it's unlikely. 1091 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 3: You're like, I have him a couple of slots lower 1092 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 3: than QB twenty five. I think that's his AAP right now. 1093 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,720 Speaker 3: I just think it's unlikely, y're one, he's gonna post 1094 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 3: like high end QB two numbers, especially since you know 1095 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,280 Speaker 3: they upgraded the supported cast. But it's still kind of lacking, 1096 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 3: and again, he doesn't have that rushing upside that he 1097 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 3: really likes to tap into. He's even said himself that 1098 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: running the ball isn't his job, so he wants to 1099 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 3: stay in the pocket throw it as much as possible, 1100 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 3: so that I think that just hurts his upside in 1101 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 3: year one. You know, some of these other rookie quarterbacks 1102 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,359 Speaker 3: can pick up yards at their legs and make up 1103 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,760 Speaker 3: for that, but I think he's just gonna throw himself 1104 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 3: in the fire and hang. 1105 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: In the pocket. 1106 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 2: Any of these wide receivers interest you. You got Nicocollins at 1107 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 2: wide receivers sixty two, John Metchi, you know, fortunately, you know, 1108 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 2: making a recovery from the Canson diagnosis, like he's gonna 1109 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: play this year, which a second round pick last year. 1110 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 2: Then you got Robert Woods signed for two years fifteen mil, 1111 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 2: about ten mil guaranteed, so he's obviously to probably start 1112 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 2: to year as a number one wide receiver. And then 1113 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 2: they also drafted Tank Dell, kind of a gadget guy 1114 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: out of Houston in the third round, and they signed 1115 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 2: on shows for a one year deal, six meal guaranteed 1116 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 2: to kind of a approve it deal. For him. You know, 1117 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 2: any any of these pass catchers interest you. 1118 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 1: I would say, out of all these guys, Nico Collins 1119 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: is still my guy. You know. 1120 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 3: I've been pretty high on him his first two seasons, 1121 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 3: and while he hasn't really you know, broke him through, 1122 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 3: he's entering year three. You know, he's twenty four years old, 1123 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 3: so I wouldn't write him off quite yet, and he 1124 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 3: seems like a favorite honestly to be the number one 1125 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 3: target in this offense, maybe between him and Dalton Schultz. 1126 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 3: That's that's saying more about the state of the Texans 1127 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 3: than Collins himself. But I still think, you know, he's underrated. 1128 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 3: He's flashed his upside at times, so it could really 1129 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 3: all come together this year and you can get him 1130 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 3: at a pretty good deal at wide receiver sixty two 1131 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 3: in that range, so I think he's worth a flyer. 1132 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 3: He has you know, touchdown upside, so he has everything 1133 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 3: you'd want in a sleeper pick. 1134 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: So I think out of all these guys, would be him. 1135 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 3: John Mitchie, like you said, like it's a great story 1136 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 3: he's returning. I've always considered him to be like a 1137 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 3: solid number two type receiver, like a Russell gage type, 1138 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 3: So I don't think his ceiling's that high, but there's 1139 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 3: certainly a chance he's, you know, the number two target 1140 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 3: in this offense, so I'll I'll take some flyers of him. 1141 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,399 Speaker 1: I'm off Robert Woods. I just don't think the ceiling's there. 1142 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 3: I think he could provide, you know, reliable target for 1143 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 3: Straut early on, but that's all you're gonna get out 1144 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 3: of Woods and then tanked all the rookie I'm not 1145 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: too high on him either. He's like a three inches shorter, 1146 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 3: ten pounds lighter version of Darnell Mooney. So if you 1147 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 3: kind of want like a deeper threaten this offense, go 1148 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 3: for it. But I just don't see him hitting in 1149 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 3: year one. But you know that these four receivers, any 1150 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 3: one of them could be the number one target, So 1151 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 3: they're so cheap that you're gonna want to take flyers 1152 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 3: on all four. But I think the guy I'm gonna 1153 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 3: have most exposure to his Nico Collins. 1154 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,439 Speaker 2: Yeah for me, you know, I think in fold BVR five, 1155 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't actually don't mind Robert Woods, even though I 1156 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 2: do think he's in like the decline phase, just because 1157 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 2: they gave him ten mil guaranteed, and again I think 1158 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: they they're aiming to be a little more competitive this year. 1159 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 2: And like you said, Stroud is more of a pocket 1160 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 2: passer's so his mills they got, you know, a new 1161 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: kind of new leadership, so you know, it could be 1162 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 2: a lead, you know, kind of a path. They might 1163 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,919 Speaker 2: not be super run heavy, So I think there's something there, 1164 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 2: like you said, with each of them, but I probably 1165 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 2: lean woods if you're in like a redraft, so you 1166 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 2: could just drop them like way, if like you said, 1167 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 2: later in the season and some younger guys emerge and 1168 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 2: then yeah, in basketball, uh, it's still be Nico for 1169 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: me either. I don't mind taking a flyer on Mechi 1170 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 2: because you know, he can't run his routes. He could 1171 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 2: emerges that like you said, there's anytime there's no clear 1172 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 2: number one, the unknown guy is always also pretty enticing. 1173 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: So a guy like Mechi, you know, could come in 1174 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 2: there and just be you know, nasty and so definitely 1175 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 2: a situation of monitor. You know, if we're hearing good 1176 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 2: things about about Mechian camp and that he's kind of 1177 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 2: getting the most TI gets and and things like that, 1178 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 2: I think that's that's a nice flyer to take. But 1179 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 2: you know, in redraft, I think Woods will start the 1180 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 2: year is a number one, so I don't mind him, 1181 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 2: especially in a PPR. He's not gonna get any touchdowns, 1182 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: you know. 1183 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 1: In redraft. 1184 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard to really see him being 1185 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 3: a wide receiver three. But I think as ADP you 1186 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 3: can make the case some best ball. Not that he 1187 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 3: has a high ceiling, but if if you have a 1188 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 3: ton of guys like you take Kadarius, Tony, Gabe Davis, 1189 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 3: a lot of like high variance guys, it would be 1190 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 3: nice to have a Robert Woods guy in there at 1191 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 3: that cheap, you know what I mean, Like you can't 1192 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 3: make case for him. 1193 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 2: That's why I like him in redraft because I like 1194 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 2: because I think he's gonna his value is going to decline, 1195 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 2: his ear progressive, so i'd be I want to be 1196 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 2: able to drop him. But I do think, I actually 1197 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,320 Speaker 2: do think he'll be kind of like a four catch, 1198 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 2: you know, forty guy. 1199 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: Early. 1200 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 3: If you're starting Robert Woods the first few weeks, you 1201 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 3: have some problems. If you're one of the leagues that, 1202 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 3: like I remember, you start like up to seven receivers. 1203 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's way more valuable in. 1204 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 3: That, so I take your point, but early in the 1205 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 3: season hopefully you don't have to be using him. 1206 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: But he does have a high four for where he's 1207 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,720 Speaker 1: being drafted. 1208 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like a guy, like, for example, a 1209 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 2: guy like Adam Thewen is going like, why receiver like 1210 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 2: fifty something, So. 1211 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, true, you know what I mean. 1212 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 2: It's like both of them got a lot of money 1213 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 2: to come in on week passing games and be the 1214 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 2: number that we start the years at number one for 1215 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback. I'm just I just think there's some 1216 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: value there, you know, compared to that's that's a great coup. 1217 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 3: Like if you're taking Feeling at fifty five, why not 1218 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 3: just wait and get Rutbert Wood's thirty. 1219 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 2: Right, But yeah, Schultz is kind of like, yeah this 1220 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 2: she just I'd rather get a guyic Conkuo. But Schultz 1221 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 2: has a you know, because of this offense, Like isn't 1222 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 2: a wide range of outcomes that he could be targeted 1223 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 2: a decent amount, but he could also not be you know, 1224 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 2: like if there's wide receivers hit, so not, I'd rather 1225 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 2: take a Conco. I think Ocnquo is upside, whereas Schultz 1226 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 2: is kind of like he's probably being drafted closer we're 1227 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 2: feeling than is then slurd. 1228 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I agree completely, and uh, you know, he was 1229 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 3: a stud for Dallas, there's no denying that. But he's 1230 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 3: not like the most athletic or talented tight end. He 1231 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 3: took advantage of being in a good scheme. He had 1232 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 3: great chemistry with Dak, So there's a chance he could 1233 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 3: struggle on. 1234 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,439 Speaker 1: The new team. 1235 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 3: We see this happen time and time with tight ends, 1236 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 3: where you know, just they go to a new scheme 1237 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 3: and they don't fit in. 1238 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: So there's certainly a chance. 1239 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he might be the favorite to be the 1240 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 3: number one target, but he does have a lower floor 1241 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 3: than people realize. So yeah, I much rather have a 1242 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 3: guy like a Quonkeru instead of Schultze. I think Schultz, 1243 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 3: you know, he has a scary floor just because we 1244 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 3: don't know how he's gonna do another scheme, And like 1245 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 3: I said, he can't really bank on talent alone. He 1246 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 3: really does have to be an integral part of the 1247 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 3: scheme in order to hit here. 1248 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 2: What about the backfield you got Pierce at twenty RB 1249 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,439 Speaker 2: twenty and Devin Singletary. It's not a one year deal 1250 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 2: about two and a half mil guaranteed. He's a RB 1251 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 2: forty seven. 1252 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know Pierce, he had a shit 1253 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 3: ton of hype heading end of the season his rookie season, 1254 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 3: right said he's very talented, but he had like no competition. 1255 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 3: His competition was Rex Burkhead and Darre UNGI walle like 1256 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 3: no competition. So he was RB sixteen before he went 1257 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 3: down in week fourteen, so that that might be his 1258 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 3: ceiling if we're being honest. 1259 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: But Singletary isn't a. 1260 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 3: Threat to his starting role obviously, but he should eat 1261 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 3: into his touches more than Birkhead last year. So I 1262 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 3: think RB nineteen seems fair. But this is just one 1263 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: of those things where Joe Mixon's going one slot ahead. 1264 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 3: So if Joe Mixon is still there, I want him, 1265 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: and if he's off the board, I'd consider Pierce. But 1266 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 3: RB nineteen seems fair with the Singletary there. 1267 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm not down on Pierce R. I 1268 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 2: still like the talent. Yeah, he's twelve out of sixty 1269 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: running backs in yards after contact per Carrie according to 1270 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: PFF three point three, So that's about eightieth percentile. That 1271 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 2: was I always like to see that. And like I said, 1272 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 2: I think the text will be a little better than 1273 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 2: people think, So I don't think the game scripts will 1274 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 2: necessarily you know, I know he's kind of more of 1275 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 2: two down back you would consider him. I don't think 1276 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 2: the game scripts will be as bad as people think. 1277 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm still taking like Ky like Mixing over him, 1278 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones over him, Miles Sanders over him. But yeah, 1279 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 2: the price is fine. I'm actually finding though that you 1280 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 2: can find some value waiting on RB two, like I 1281 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 2: think you want one early. Yeah, I think you can 1282 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 2: find some value waiting and kind of you know, the 1283 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: middle rounds like usually like I think you mentioned it, 1284 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 2: kind of like RB twenty RB thirty not not as 1285 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 2: much difference. 1286 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1287 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, And in Singletary, yeah, fair price for him. 1288 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 2: Don't really know what they have planned for him, but yeah, 1289 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 2: I think Pierce is clearly more talented, so I don't 1290 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 2: think it's like he's just gonna like upside for him 1291 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 2: to be the number one guy barring injury. 1292 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, Singletary is interesting because I 1293 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 3: don't think, you know, he's good enough or we'll be 1294 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,439 Speaker 3: able to take away enough touches to offer RB three 1295 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 3: flex kind of value as long as Pierce is healthy. 1296 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 3: But he could command those leader touches that you gave 1297 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 3: to Jamal Williams. Like he's called motor for reason. He's 1298 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 3: always hustling, you know, at the two down offense, some 1299 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 3: guys on the ground, he'll go run. 1300 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Over and pick them up. 1301 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 3: Like he could find uh, you know, the two minute 1302 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 3: offense things like that. Yeah, yeah, to take away, but 1303 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 3: he would need peers to miss time to you know, 1304 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 3: offer value. So I think RB forty eight is fair. 1305 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 3: But they're just he seems more likely than some of 1306 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 3: the other guys in this range to potentially carve out 1307 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 3: an RB three flex role without the starter going down. 1308 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 1: But I think this is a fair range. 1309 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 3: And like I said, I'm not too worried about him 1310 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 3: when it comes to Pierce, but he is way better 1311 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,919 Speaker 3: competition than rex burg had was last year, That's for sure. 1312 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 2: Hey, I mean remember if rex Burke had coming into 1313 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 2: the you know he was coming off that monster stretch 1314 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 2: you know, over thirty a half yards. 1315 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. 1316 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 2: So but now I like, I'm going to bet on Pierce, 1317 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 2: you know, just his talent. I like, I do like Piers, 1318 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, who do you like sweepers undervalue guys Texans, 1319 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 2: I would say. 1320 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 3: Nico Collins just just where he's going, potentially being the 1321 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 3: number one wide receiver outside of the top sixty. I 1322 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 3: still think he's very talented and your three could be 1323 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 3: finally fingers crossed be the year for him. 1324 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 2: I'll go with a Woods and Redraft and uh, I 1325 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 2: like I like the unknown with Mechi too, because I 1326 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 2: do think he has some out running taps. 1327 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: So like. 1328 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 2: I like Nico too, But you know, I think just 1329 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 2: right now for me, it's just that like the unknown 1330 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 2: with Mechi going like you know, a couple few rounds later, 1331 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 2: and then Woods as well. I'm getting a ten mil 1332 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 2: I like to value a little better. So those are 1333 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 2: my guys, and uh yeah that's going to oh bus, 1334 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 2: yeah bus, Yeah. 1335 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: I would. 1336 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,959 Speaker 3: I would have to go with Schultz. I'm only one 1337 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 3: rank away from him. I think that's closer to his 1338 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 3: ceiling and like I just said, his floor might be 1339 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 3: lower than we think. So all the I think the 1340 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 3: Texans are a pretty cheap team to invest in, but 1341 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 3: Schultz is probably the one guy I think is probably 1342 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 3: a little overvalued. 1343 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just yeah, I like the the the median 1344 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: is probably right tight an eleven, but I think there's 1345 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 2: more floor than ceiling for him because this is not 1346 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 2: like Dak Prescott and the Cowboys exactly. That is going 1347 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 2: to wrap it for our AFC South podcast here on 1348 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 2: the Fantasy Flex. If you want to hear us talking 1349 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 2: NFC South, that episode will drop Friday. 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