WEBVTT - Perverted w/ Emma Myles 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.960 Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.760 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:07.640 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.240 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:27.960 Done done, yay. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.880 Welcome to That's Messed Up an SVU podcast. My name 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:31.680 is Lisa Traeger. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.360 Hello, and I'm Kara Klink and welcome. This is our 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.760 podcast where we talk about Law and Order SVU episodes 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:41.400 the crimes they're based on, and then we talk to 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.080 an actor from the show. And it is our two 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:50.839 year anniversary today from today, Yeah, it's like our hundred 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.000 and like I don't know, it's like one episode one 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.680 oh six or something. But we started two years ago, 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.960 December of twenty twenty, in the middle of the pandemic. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.480 And thank you guys, all of you who listen to 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.840 us and have made this podcast so much fun, and 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.240 people that come out to our tour dates and blah 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:07.919 blah blah. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:08.880 You guys are the best. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.679 Yeah, from the day ones to the people who just 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.800 recently found us, to the people that dabble, to the 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.039 people who listen every day on their commits, all of you. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.679 We're so lucky and we're having a good time doing this. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:23.160 Yeah. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.319 Also, one more quick piece of business, we would like 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.280 to shout out our mixer. We have a mixer, someone 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.760 who makes our episode sound appealing to your ears and 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.120 has as is sort of an unsung hero of our show. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:35.880 His name is John Bradley, and we would like to 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.200 thank you John for everything you do to make our 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:43.840 podcast sound cool and normal and palatable. And this episode 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.960 is wide releasing on just December thirteenth, which means tonight 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.120 we are in Texas, we are in Houston, and tomorrow 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.480 we are in Dallas. So if you're listening and you're 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.400 like I live in Houston, I live in Dallas, and 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.760 I would love to go see these bitches live. Come 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.320 watch us be totally on hinge and talk about really 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.880 fun episodes of SBU that have never been on the podcast. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.520 And the link to tickets for that is That's messed 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:09.720 up Live dot com. 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.520 Come check out our our tour dates. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:18.400 We also are doing Northeast Philly, Boston, Hartford in January, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.919 so get New York two and New York New York 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:25.440 is so sorry, yeah, but yeah the rest of those 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.400 cities still have some tickets left. We added an extra 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.720 show in Boston. So if you tried for Boston early 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.880 on and didn't get a ticket, we added another show. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.120 And that's that for that business. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.360 And we do we want to do our other big 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.359 announcement before we get into our chit chat. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.640 Or do we wait, let's wait, we'll do an announcement. Well, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.360 first chit chat. We have a lot to talk about, yeah, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.840 and then we'll tease one more bit of announcement towards 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.080 yeah in a few minutes. In a few minutes, no 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.240 big deal. I just yeah, one listen. I love you 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.040 for you. I can't get enough. But I watched it 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:57.920 all in three days. I stayed up till seven in 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.440 the morning. Oh my god, that's me in my damages days. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:02.760 Oh yeah. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.720 And the thing is it is emotional. It's it's definitely 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.280 because people said it was dark and everyone kept saying it, 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:10.680 and I was like, I used to watch OZ when 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.320 I was twelve, Like, let me, I'll tell you. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.040 Yeah, we do an SVU podcast. We can handle a 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.079 little darkness. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.960 And the people were dead on it is really brutal, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.560 but in a way that's not gratuitous or just because 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.280 like and I listened to all the interviews, you know, 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.600 HBO does really good behind the scenes little things and 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.920 Zendaia Zendeia, I forget she says it too, but she 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.880 was just saying, it's like so much about empathy and 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.400 really understanding what people are going through. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:40.760 And I think they like nail it. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.440 And now that I've been on a set consistently more 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.280 than I've ever had in my life, watching this show, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.600 I'm like so impressed. I like, can't these young actors. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.480 If you think Olivia Benson's wet eyes are impressive, these 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:55.480 fucking teams, I swear to God, like they are so good. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.400 Zenda deserves every award ever. And you remember like this 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.400 year the but so that everyone was obsessed with where 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.440 it's like her running and it like really got a 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.320 lot of attention. Do you remember this at all? Know, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.920 took him a month to film it, and it was 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.000 It's just like, I don't know, I've never really had 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.240 an addict in my life, but there are scenes where 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.120 I mean I was hysterically crying throughout the days. Oh 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.920 my God, for sure, But then like so impressed with everything, 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.680 and I just and then people that I was telling 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.640 that I was seeing around town were like second season 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.040 sucks and It's like, who are these people? 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:30.480 Like? 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.040 It was so good and I just don't get people's 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.240 standards or what they're like, what sucks, what's good? It's 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.440 so annoying to me. It really I really enjoyed it. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:42.560 I really, yeah. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.920 I'm so glad I watched. I went to go see 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.120 something I really enjoyed. I went to go see the 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.640 Glass Onion, the Knives Out, and the New Knives Out. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:50.760 Moh my god, lucky. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:52.120 I guess it was. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.160 Right up top our our new best friend, Dallas Roberts. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.000 He is a very small part, but he's married to 0:04:58.040 --> 0:04:59.760 Catherine Han and I feel like he didn't mention that 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.520 to when we asked him, what. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:02.640 Are you up to coming up? 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.320 He was never like, I'm gonna be in this star 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:09.159 studded cinematic event of fucking Christmas twenty twenty two. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.800 Maybe he didn't. He wasn't allowed to talk about it yet, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.919 but it was the movie good, so good. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.760 I famously fell asleep during Knives Out one because I 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.360 was had a new baby and they had wine at 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.320 the theater and warmed seats, and that was like a 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.679 combination for me being unable to stay awake. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.480 But I did see it later on a plane and 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:29.480 was like, oh, this is fun. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.279 I liked it, but I don't know seeing it on 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.159 the big screen that you can only really see it 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:34.640 on the big screen for like a couple of weeks. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.599 It's gonna go right to Netflix. It's like they just 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.360 did movie theaters for a week. But it's I loved it. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.160 We were My husband thought it was better than the 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.040 first one. I really thought it was great. I didn't 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.960 know anything about it going in. I didn't even really 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.080 even know who was in it, so it was so fun. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.920 When little celebs would pop up, I'd be like, they're 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.240 in this, Like but I saw Dallas and I go 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.279 we interviewed him and I was like, he didn't tell 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.600 us so he had a. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.120 Small part, but he was, but he was very fun. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.640 Way you have to bring up the big part of 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:07.080 Euphoria or girl Martha Kelly. Oh yes, she is as 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.880 chilling as they said. I mean, I was most looking 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:14.000 forward to seeing her, and I got like, that's the thing. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.640 Like all of the stuff I was hearing and all 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.560 the press and stuff like, seeing it, I was like 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:19.840 everyone was dead. 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:23.120 On she is chilling, evil, casual. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:27.840 It's like it's really teaches a lot of lessons. It's 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.160 just like incredible, it really was. There is a lot 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.640 of sex, so like get ready for there's so much dick, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.160 a lot of dick. Well they showed dick, so many dicks, 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.599 like I would say a minimum of forty. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.680 Dicks, like teen dicks. Well yeah, but they're not old. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.280 I know the actors are not teens, but they're supposed 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:45.120 to be teen dicks. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:49.200 Daddy dicks. Photos of dicks, like, yeah, a lot. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.080 Of dicks, wow wow, a lot of great makeup, a 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.039 lot of fashion. I already followed all of them. I'm 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.640 just like stalking their lives, like yeah, good. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.000 Enough, And it's funny. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:02.039 There's like moments and departures like you vibes where they 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.919 are funny. And she's just like an incredible actress, Like 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.760 no wonder she's won these Emmys, like she really is. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.840 Zenda Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah no. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.680 But Martha Kelly's wearing like crocs but is like a 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:16.840 vicious motherfucker. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:17.480 I don't I know. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.080 That's why I love her so much, like as a 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.680 person but also like on baskets, I loved her and 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.960 I like, I can't believe she's taking this evil turn 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.480 and I need to watch I want to watch. 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:28.520 It, like for that pretty much. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.480 But you know how I was really annoyed when people 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.840 are like, if you're a parent, don't watch it, like 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.840 other people can't get sad. But I understand now why 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.920 people say that. Yeah, that's why I'm kind of like. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.880 But then I also heard I don't know if you're 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.400 gonna like disagree with this, but what I heard was like, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.920 this is what thirty five year olds think that high 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.120 school is like now, and it's not really what high 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.440 school's like now. Like I was reading something about Euphoria 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.240 where it was like, this is what like the writer 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.320 creator of the show thinks high school is like. 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:56.040 But it's like not. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.880 And so when you're watching it as a parent, like, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.080 don't get too war that like your kid's. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.360 Gonna be doing Heroin or whatever. But people are. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.840 It also depends where you grow up in what group there, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.600 And I'm sure there's a lot of people at Yuphoria 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.720 High School who are not doing all this. But no, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.840 the writer and creator of the show and who directed 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.000 a lot of it to he was an addict. He 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.520 was a teen addict, and so Ruzandaia's character is him. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.720 So it's like his experience, and he was saying that 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.760 he really wanted people our age to have more empathy 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.000 for high school students today and that's why it's like 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.840 so much technology and like all the phone stuff, and 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:37.200 it's like because they feel they're dismissed a lot that generation. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:38.840 Like you're annoying or something or this. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.319 And his goal wasn't even to be like this is 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.840 high school orgies. It was more like to actually like 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.920 feel for these teens and the way they're growing up 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.200 right now. And yeah, but the scenes that are the 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.360 most sad that I think for a parent is like 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.920 you see Ru. You see Ru's mom just like not 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.800 be able to help her who is so addicted to drugs. 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.520 Oh my god. You know who else is good? I 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.000 worked with her Alana Uhbacher. 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.720 She was the best friend and legally blonde, the brunette, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:11.800 she's like in everything. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:13.920 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.839 I worked with her on a pilot that never aired. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.760 But she's incredible and she plays such a good mom, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.640 like not a good mom is a good parent, but 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:25.040 like she's an incredible I just was impressed, like hands down. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.719 I also think I thought it was gonna be too 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:32.040 teen like and it wasn't It just was like so impressive. Also, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:33.840 I'm looking at it right now. Shout out to the 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.000 woman in Madison who brought me my IVY bag. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.560 Thank you so much. Oh yes, that was amazing. Have 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.640 you ever amazing? Up and down that? 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.600 I mean truly, Like we get a lot of fun stuff. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.160 People do needle point, people draw pictures, people bring us joints. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.440 It's great, they bring presence for Rosie. But the IVY 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:55.400 bag off the charts, off the charts, and what's funny? 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.720 So like I'm house, I was cat sitting for friends 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.720 while they were out of town for Thanksgiving. Well and 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.760 I got to stay in New York, but I get 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.880 COVID tested for the shoot, you know, and so like 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.520 the the only things on the couch when this COVID 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.880 tester came into the apartment was the IVY bag in 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:12.480 my laptop. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.680 So just like a clean apartment. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.760 I had not even unpacked yet, and it was just 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.920 and I could see him looking at the IVY bag, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.640 and I'm like, I wonder what he thinks. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.640 And I thought, there's no reway and hall Lisa is 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.439 going to take this from city to city where she's 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.720 about to keep being living out of a suitcase, and 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:29.040 she definitely is. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:30.720 She figured out away. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.440 I wrapped it in three clear garbage bags from the 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.320 hotel that we were at, and then I put it 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.600 in a clear, my clear fanny pack. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:44.160 Smart, smart, Thank you so much? Is that all I had? 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.040 Am I really living that boring of a life that 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.400 it was just like euphoria and an IV bag? 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:49.120 And then I'm done? 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.599 Yeah? We had Thanksgiving and I took my couch to 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:54.280 a farm. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:55.679 Thanksgiving was fun. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.679 I just watched five kids tear my house apart, and 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.160 then I took my kids to a farm so they 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.240 could like pet animals. My my son is like truly 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.720 addicted to this baby Instagram animals thing that I that 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.040 I show them Sometimes when he's like freaking out, I'll 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.560 just be like, want to look at baby animals And 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.320 we just look at baby And now he's grabbing my 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.760 phone on the type of going animals animals, and I'm like. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.559 Oscar, stop, like you're addicted. You can't. I can't have you. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.880 Like addicted to screens this quick. And so I've been 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.319 trying to wean him off of it. But I took 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.520 him to a real farm, and I didn't realize it's 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.280 like this cool farm sanctuary. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:28.720 I didn't realize it's like kind of. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.800 Related like Joaquin Phoenix like saved a cow from a 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.000 factory that lives there. We saw the cow, They're like, 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.599 this is the Joaquin Phoenix cow. And I was like, 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:39.800 I don't know what you're talking about. And then they 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:45.000 like told us and it was this cool it's a sanctuary. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.480 It's like called farm Sanctuary and they like help animals 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.920 and they but I didn't realize that they like take 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:51.680 you on a tour and tell you like all the 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.960 horrors of the meat industry, and like I already don't 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.640 eat meat, but like my kids are on this tour, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.360 and I think the guy's trying to like soup like breasts. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.920 How horrific it is at like chicken plants or like 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.199 at like animals that are bred with antibiotics for farm 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.160 like whatever and farmed out or whatever. And Oscar and 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.360 Rosie are just like like making so much noise and 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.920 but it was really cute and Rosie got to touch 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.560 a pig and a cow and she was happy and 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.600 a sheep, but not the birds. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:20.160 Because of avian flu. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.120 The birds we went we saw them all from Afar 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:23.320 the chickens and the turkeys. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.199 Martha Kelly's character in Euphoria has a bunch of parakeets 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.240 that squawk or well, no, that's not what they're called. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.160 What are the parrots? Parrots not parents? Yeah, is that 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:32.720 the same thing? 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.200 Well, I always think of a parakeet as like a 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.640 smaller parrot, but I think they're kind of similar. But 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.880 I could be that could be a thing I made 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.480 up in my mind because of the way the words 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:46.640 sound similar. But yeah, oh, we were talking also about 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.200 we were talking about like a bad article recently when 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.199 we were recording another episode. 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.800 And did you see do you happen to see this? 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.280 Like LA Magazine, which I usually respect and think LA 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.640 Magazine is like a great publication and like I always 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.040 want them to like post about how my comedy. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:02.320 Show is good. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.600 They released this article over like right before Thanksgiving about 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.560 this woman. This famously happened in like Hidden Hills. This 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.880 woman lives next door to like Laurie McLaughlin from Aunt 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.319 Becky from Full House, the one who did like you know, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.000 Operation Varsity Blues or whatever. 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.000 So all these rich people. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:24.559 No, no, Laurie McLaughlin, Laurie Laughlin got it, Laurie metcalf 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.719 is from Roseanne. No Laurie Laughlin, I said MacLaughlin, but 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:32.040 it's Laughlin. She's her husband is like Massimo, the guy 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.120 that's in all the like targets or whatever. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:38.040 Yeah, Like they're most famous for the scandal. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.800 The scandal, but that's how they have their money is 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.160 from the Massa. So she lives in This woman was 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.280 living in this like hidden Hills, saying she was driving 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.720 her Mercedes, she was drunk, she was going eighty miles 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.400 an hour in a forty five and she hit two 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:53.160 little boys and killed them. Okay, this fucking woman. And 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.200 LA magazine does a full fucking profile on her with 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:02.880 photographs of her looking down about how her life was 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.679 destroyed in an instant and how her dream life has 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.600 become a nightmare. And it was like everybody on Twitter 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.200 was like what the fuck is going on here? Like 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.680 how are you writing this article about this woman who 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.720 fully made choices that took the lives of two children, 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.480 Like they were just on their bikes with their family 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.840 on a family walk and like died because this woman 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.040 had to get bombed and drive eighty down residential streets. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.640 And we're doing an LA magazine. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:36.560 Article about how like that literally there's a part about 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.800 how her and another car we're like racing each other 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.040 and the author called it a frisky game of cat 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.720 and mouse. It's like, please, don't use the word frisky 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.800 in an article right before you talk about how two 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.480 little boys died. So that was just like really making 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.040 me crazy. And I wasn't sure if you saw it. 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.480 I just go was surprised LA mag because that's how 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.360 was Lri Laughlin involved. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:55.520 They are neighbors. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.320 God, So that just like gives you a little background 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.200 on like the privilege and the kind of neighborhood it 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.320 is in LA It's like a hidden hills or whatever. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.360 Well, yeah, and of course she is only thinking about herself, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.080 not two dead children that she Yeah, is she in jail, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:11.640 that's the thing. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.160 She's awaiting her trial, like her trial's about to start. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.520 And I was like, how did you fucking you must 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.040 have had to pay all the money in the world 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.800 to get a notable publication to do this puff piece 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.120 about you and how you're good or how you're like 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:25.440 just like friends with an editor. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:26.200 You're like a. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:30.280 Regular person who but like everybody was like tweeting at 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.840 the magazine, tweeting at the author, like, how could you 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.760 guys do? Like if I was a journalist, I'd be like, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.240 you guys gotta put la magstaff. I'm not gonna like 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.440 you gotta you gotta like make this generic, like I 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:45.120 can't have my name on this like crazy crazy Anyway. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.360 Well, Laura Laughlin just reminds me of fucking Candae Cameron. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.200 Oh yeah, and she can go kick rocks. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.560 Yeah, and then they it's just like what bothers me 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.160 too is now people call her out and she's like, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.760 I love people of all different It's like, you don't 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.080 just say you're a fucking homophobe, you dumb back, and 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.240 that's why you didn't want to hang out with Jojo Seawatt. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:08.360 Listen, I fucking hate religious people. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.320 Oh and I wanted to also remind you guys, with 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:13.840 the holiday season coming. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.480 Up, we do have new merch. 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Yeah, it's a csong were the Wild Ones? Yeah, 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:38.000 it's called wild Ones. Yeah, perfection. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.439 We open up on a statue and it's like there 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.960 are birds and it looks like Ariel the cartoon Little 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.479 Mermaid's Dad aka Got of the Sea, but like right, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.680 but not really but there's also a hell element to it. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.400 So we hear a man's voice and he like as 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.840 a voice over, and he's obsessed with the statue, and 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.719 the woman with him is like, I really don't give 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.320 a shit about the statue. She's like, sure, it's interesting, 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.800 and then we see it's a whole family, and the 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.919 dad asked the daughter what she thinks, and she says, 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.359 I think we should take the subway and get mugged. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.000 So something interesting happens on this trip and it's like, bitch, 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:13.240 do you not know you're on SV. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:15.360 I don't say that. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.440 The dad then starts reading about the statue. It's a 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:24.080 peace fountain, good over evil, violence and harmony, light and darkness, 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.679 life and death. And the girl's like, what's that and 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.639 the mom's like, that's the devil and she's like, no, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.320 that and points to a dead body, and we do 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:37.320 see a dead body. There's tattoos, bald leather vest, biker 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.520 vibes from a distance, and now we're at work, okay, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.640 and we got Melinda Benson's stable or iced tea full 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.760 house we're at we're at the scene of the crime. 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.560 And Benson's like, okay, whoever called this is whoever called 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.719 this crime in is a fucking comedian. They said they 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.119 found a sexually mutilated tree hugger, and it is funny 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.480 and accurate. This guy is bloody on his crotch area. 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.000 He is very bloody, tied to the tree pants around 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.840 the ankles. So then Melinda then continues and she goes, 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.119 someone did some illegal pruning, left the berries chop, the 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.000 branch clean off. So we know this is gonna be 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.440 a classic Neil Brear extravaganza, you know what I mean, 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:20.120 Like it's all fun and game. Still, someone loses a penis. Yes, yes, 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.040 So Sabler asks if it could be a trophy, and 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.840 Melinda's like, honestly, I thought it was that too, but 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.720 CSU saw a squirrel run up a tree with the dick, so. 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.560 I says, I thought squirrels preferred nuts. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:35.000 I love it. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.560 Oh, I mean, we're hitting so many laughlines already. We're 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:39.119 a minute in. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.720 Sabler fakes laughs and then he says, well, our guy 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.400 is huge, so there must have been more than one attacker, 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.040 And Melinda's like, I don't know, because there's two holes 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.000 in the shirt, which means he's tasered and he was 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.040 he has the logo of his motorcycle club on his person, 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.240 so they know he belongs or belonged to the Death Knights, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.880 which is an outlaw gang outside of the East Village, 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:08.240 says iced tea drug running, prostitution, contract killing, you know, classic. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.719 And then they find this man's ID and it's Clyde 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.520 van Dine does that rhyme or not? 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.520 I can't tell, and it sounds good. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.679 It's a poetic name, and so that's the name on 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.240 the ID and Stabl's like, who did you piss off? 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.200 And Finn Is like, well, have you ever lived questioned 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.040 this guy in a rape case or domestic And Stabler's 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.480 like I don't think so why and fing goes, well, 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.000 then what's he doing with Olivia's card? 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:34.800 Done? 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:39.640 Done, boom, So it's credits. We arrive at Benson's apartment. 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.679 She's walking up to the door, she opens it and 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.360 Stabler's right there, and then Marishka's walking back into the apartment. 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.800 We noticed she's sick, and then Stabler goes, you look terrible. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:55.040 Sure, Stabler like just what everyone needs to hear when 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:55.640 they have the flu. 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:56.520 Yeah. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.760 She grabs the file out of his hands and is 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.080 like this guy he then says, yep, this biker with 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:02.600 this myth. 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:04.760 He said, this is so funny. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:09.240 He then says, yep, the biker with the missing kickstand am, 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:11.880 and I feel like this is rivaling the episode Sick 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.520 the Michael Jackson one in terms of like how funny, 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:15.760 how many funny lines? 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:16.760 There are so many. 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.040 He asked if she has been to the doctor, and 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.280 it's like Benson won't even get protective detail when people 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:25.760 are actively trying to murder her. She did not go 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:30.760 to the doctor, sir. And so she's not gone to 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.480 the doctor. And she does not recognize Clyde. She suggests 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.840 maybe he found her card on one of their victims 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.360 and assumed maybe she talked and he messed her up, 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.159 and then instead of going back to the cops, she 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.880 got revenge. That's a wild first guess. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:49.400 Four things had to happen for this to happen, Like. 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.480 Yeah, what, she's really created a narrative. 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.200 Stabler's like, I'll figure it out. 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.440 You rest up, and then Stabler touches her and goes 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.560 fuck you. But she's like, oh, I only have progress, 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.240 Like I'm at I was at one O two, I'm 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.520 at one O one right now. But Stave Butlero cares 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.679 about her, so he starts filling up a tea kettle 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.800 to make her some tea. And the apartments is different 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:13.520 than the apartment in my head. And now I'm like, 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.240 how many apartments have we seen of Lives three? I know, 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.760 I don't know they they kind of I can't remember, 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.840 Like they never really say whether she moves, but like I've. 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.280 Only remember having a door one. 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:28.080 She has a doorman in more recent seasons, like in 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.560 teen seasons, but I don't know if she did back 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:32.120 in this day. 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.000 Yeah, I want to if any of our moles on 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.879 the inside want to talk to set design or we 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.439 just have to have someone on I just or if 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:42.400 you're a super fan. 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.240 And you know you just know. 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.840 Yeah, I'm really curious the apartments of Olivia Ben's. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:50.840 Because like, was it the one we just did with 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:56.440 the serial Killer and Shannon Woodward where they're like all 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.280 units to Benson's apartment and like everyone just knows where 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.000 it is, Like they don't like say what the address is. 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.080 Like everyone's like, oh shit, yeah, we've all partied to 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:04.800 Benson's apartment. 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:05.280 We know where that. 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:10.720 I mean, she just needed protective detail. Seventeen times they 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:15.040 got that address. So then while he's making tea, she's like, wait, 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.000 so this happened outside of Saint John's, Like. 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.680 Did Clyde worship there? Like what's going on? 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:21.080 You know? 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:22.720 Like why is it outside the church? 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.159 And he opens her fridge and is like, ugh, you 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.199 have no food and it's like, bitch, this is New 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.879 York and she doesn't have a family of five, like, 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.840 and she's like, have you never heard of a thing 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.840 called delivery? And it's like, yeah, get away from us. 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:40.240 On her coffee table there's a candle in fresh lavender flowers. 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.920 I love that Benson is into self care. He then 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.240 finds brochures on her counter and is like, oh wait, 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.920 were you planning on an island vacation? And she snatches 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.840 them and he's like, stop snooping, you dumb it. But 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.280 they see that he has a record he had a 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.040 brawl at a bike expo, but nothing that was related 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.000 to SVU, so they really don't know how he has 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.879 Olivia's card. So then Stabler's being kind of creepy and 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:05.280 he's like, let's get you to bed, and to me, 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.000 I'm like, mind your business. Let her watch the price 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:08.560 is right, let her stay on the couch, like, go 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:09.240 fuck yourself. 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:11.960 Can she just watch the view in peace? 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.239 Like she has to go sleep and drink tea and 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:18.320 have groceries. Benson then warns him and is like, bite, 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.320 gangs don't play nice. Watch out, and he says that 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:22.760 Finn's already at the clubhouse. 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:24.520 So we jumped to the clubhouse. Lol. 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.520 Munch is there and we just hear his voice say 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.400 what's wrong with you people? And then a man who 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.359 looks like Colin Quinn with a Lord four quad wig 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.920 and Denham cut off shirt and a leather vest, and 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.600 he only cares about pool. He's like, you're blocking must 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:43.920 shot and Munch is like, dude, if someone caught off 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:45.920 my friend's dick, I would try to find out who 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:49.760 did it, loyal friend. And you know what that Yeah, 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.760 I'll do that too for my friends. If your dick's 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.800 get chopped off, we're gonna get to the bottom of it. 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:59.320 I'll join the search party for the dick. And then 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.320 they act so tough, like all these bikers act so tough, 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.160 but it's like you guys are in drag, Like you're 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.280 straight up doing drag. Yeah, you're putting on a little 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.600 costume and Froom rooming through the streets and leather like 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:16.080 it's kind of humiliating but cool. And then this other 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.720 biker in a raspy voice, goes, we're gonna handle this 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:19.320 in house. 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:20.880 We're not talking to the cops. 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:25.119 Munchie and Finn says, cool, We'll just make sure to 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:25.760 have eyes on you. 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:26.959 Twenty four to seven. 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.240 Then oh my god, Munch is like, did you know 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.159 there's a grammar mistake on your logo? 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.359 An extraneous apostrophe. 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:37.119 So Munch is the Kara today, that's me, that is you, 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:43.360 And that upsets the biker with the bangs and he goes, listen, Skeletor, 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.600 get your bony ass out of here before someone mistakes 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.520 you for a pool stick, Like. 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.800 Where are these lines today? We never get anything like 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:56.440 this anymore. It's so funny. Listen, Skeletor, Like, I'm. 0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:00.280 No, I honestly, I you know, I'll watch forever. There's 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.520 amazing episodes. I love a lot of the characters, but 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.080 there's something missing. 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.240 And I think it's Neil Bear, yeah, and Munch a 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:10.080 little bit, but. 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.720 Yeah, no, I think it's the I think it's the 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.639 dynamic of Munch and say, like the dynamic of all 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.000 the actors, of course, but the granddaddy of it all 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:19.680 that I think. 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:24.879 Was really digging that humor was Neil. I don't I 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.920 don't know. Yeah. 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.440 So anyways, Finn comes in to smooth it over and 0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.679 he's like, guys, guys, we're just here to make a 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:36.199 notification and we're not leaving without Clyde's address. They do 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.960 not cooperate. The detectives leave with no scoop. He says, 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:41.920 they'll never talk to us as a group. We got 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.360 to get one like away from the herd. And then 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.560 at this moment a biker room rooms up and Munch 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.000 is like, nice, maybe we can get him. He asks 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.439 for his license and registration and he's like, bitch for 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.639 what and they say that he drove up like a 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.480 motorized vehicle onto a sidewalk and he's like, yeah, but 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.240 I did that because that dumb ass horror is parked there. 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.120 And Munch goes, don't insult Bessie, and so. 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.840 I guess he calls his car Bessie and he goes 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.399 fork over the goods and this guy looks like he 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.840 straightens his hair and then much looks at the id 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.239 then calls him Timothy, and he's like, the name is 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:16.399 t Bone, and it's. 0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:17.560 Like it's so funny. 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.480 You're like George Costanza, you know, like this is ridiculous. 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.440 Finn then notices and goes, hey, wrong, id you need 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.560 a class M to have a motorcycle? 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.480 So come with us Bone. 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.600 As Finn and Munch bring this guy in handcuffed, Craigan 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.879 meets them in a hallway and says, fifteen of you 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:40.360 against one defenseless girl. He says, sounds good, sign me up. 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.159 Then Munch says, these knuckle draggers have a website, so 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.760 now we see it's on a monitor. And the Dead 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.680 Knights they have a website and they put up a 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.640 video and it's a girl passed out getting banged by 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:55.920 a biker in front of a group of cheering bikers. 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:57.240 And he's not. 0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.320 Scared of the cops because he didn't do anything wrong, 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.320 and Starlow was just laying back and enjoying it, he says, 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.919 and Finn is like, nope, she's passed out so she 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.439 can't give consents. So you're actually gonna have all your 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.080 little biker meetings in lock up because that's where people 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.320 go for rape. And he's like simmer down steroid boy 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.680 to Stabler and explains it was all in good fun, 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.240 and then Craigan's famous line, Cara, you want to take 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:20.679 it away? 0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.600 It's all fun and games until someone loses a penis. 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.760 So the video we're looking at is from when Clyde 0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:31.760 came back from prison. Starla was his welcome home present 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.960 and he was late, and so they got bored, and 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.480 then they're like, so he didn't mind sloppy fifteenth and 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.120 he's like, nah, he was in jail for five years 0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:44.520 with no stink. I like hate that, And actually he 0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.720 likes her a lot and made her his old lady, 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.200 big step up from a mama. So a mama is 0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.160 a sheep. They're there for anyone to use. So it's 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:57.040 a big upgrade actually being someone's old lady because then 0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.080 people care about you, because no one cares about sheeps. 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:05.240 Craigan says, well, now we do tell me where she is, 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.520 and He's like, why would I do that? And Craigan's like, well, 0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:09.680 if not her word, then I'm locking her ass up 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.800 for rape. He does not like the sound of that. 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.920 So we cut to Stabler trying to kick down a 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.080 door and failing, so he groans and makes a call 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.720 and says Starla's not home. But as he's walking out 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.840 of like the apartment building, Starla's walking up into the 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.760 apartment unit and she sees him. She starts to bolt, 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.920 but before she runs away. We noticed she's from Orange 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.840 Is the New Black. Hello, it's Emma Miles and she 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.880 played Leanne Taylor, the meth racist but silly vibes like 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.960 one of the frickin' fracks of the meth community in 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.000 the prison show. 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.640 Like kind of they were like the eels from Little Mermaid. 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.320 He yet fletsam and jetsam. 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:47.000 Yeah. 0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.760 Yeah, she's also Emma has also been in three other 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:55.320 SBUs So. She was played Carlene Jenkins in American Dream 0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:59.040 and Sanctuary like a double episode, and her first episode 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.800 was Haunted and she played Lizzie Jones and I watched 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.040 it and she plays another addict, So I think she 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.400 has a type cast. 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:08.120 I'm a girl. 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.680 Yeah, I go a high audition for girls who love 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.320 lunch and she goes out for drug addicts, girls who 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:15.880 love meth, girls. 0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:16.920 Who love meth. 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.120 Sailor's like, I just want to talk and she tries 0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.680 to run but falls and that's that and so she 0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.280 is not okay, and she's like, my old man was 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:29.120 killed yesterday and now I'm getting busted. He says, listen 0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.080 to me, if you had anything to do with his murder, 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.560 I'd understand, and she's like, are you high? Why would 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.400 I kill Clyde and walks off, and he says he 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.280 watched the gang rape, but she says it was not rape. 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.600 And her job for the crew now is that she 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.840 works in a city clerk's office. And he's like, but 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.840 you're stealing blank birth certificates, so let's go. 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:48.960 So they walk into her apartment. 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.320 She says she doesn't know what they do with the documents, 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.120 but she just does what she's told. She takes off 0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.560 her blazer and calls it a monkey suit, and she 0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.840 has a tattoo that says property of the Death Knights. 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.600 She says it means I belong and he says it 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:03.800 means they own you. And she's like, hey, it got 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.680 me out of Sturgis, South Dakota, and to earn a 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:08.640 right to New York. She had a train pulled on 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.400 her and then Stabler gives the Urban Dictionary of train 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.440 He's like, so you had sex with them one after 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.560 another and it's like, yeah, like you both know what's up. 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.200 This is just for us, Like I love that he's 0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.800 explaining it. She's legit is like, yeah, that's that's the definition. 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:28.560 And I just told you what I did, like I didn't. Yeah, 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.360 ever wrote like I didn't pull a chew chew train 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.840 with my body strength, you know what I mean, Like 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.280 like he's making sure that she wasn't just in a 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:41.400 strong man competition. But then she adds, yeah, anyway, they 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.640 want it, and she's nineteen and this is all kind 0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.280 of a bummer and Stabler's like, I know you want 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.440 out of this. So then Stabler asks, when have you 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.160 spoken to Olivia Benson. She goes she has not, and 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.440 he's actually the first pig that she's ever had to sit. 0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.280 Down with again funny yeah. 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.960 So then he's like, okay, but what was Clyde doing 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.080 with her card? And she says he didn't get it 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.560 from her and then asks where his hog is and 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.960 he says, well, not at a clubhouse or the crime 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:12.640 scene or outside, and she's like ugh. So then she says, 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.360 when he was done slapping her around last night, he 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.240 rode off on the hog. So that was the last 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.080 time she laid eyes on either one of him or 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.200 the bike, and then she cries and says, I loved 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.600 that bike, Like it's so funny. 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.480 Also, I don't think we gave enough time to Stabler 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.560 trying to kick that door open and not being able 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.280 to it was so funny. He was like, either these 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.000 doors are getting tougher or I'm getting older, And it's like. 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:39.800 I like that. Once we get to see him kick 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:40.680 it and nothing. 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.760 Fucking happens except he goes, how so funny. 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.720 Well, it was like a steel door, It wasn't would Yeah, 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.800 these are like bikers. I think they fucking know how 0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:51.920 to like keep it like you know. 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.280 And it also looked like an industrial like building, a 0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.200 factory turned into lofts. 0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:58.920 Yeah, type of situation. 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.440 So to Stabler walking into the squad room and Cragan's 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.360 informing him that they found Clyde's bike. 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:05.320 So there. 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.120 Someone witnessed a hit and run. It was at one 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.120 hundred and thirteenth in Amsterdam. He said, a crazy brunette 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.920 hit him and ran and was driving a black Bustang 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.720 and he got part of the license plate and the 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.560 guy on the call had to go and they go 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.040 through people with partial plates and one of the partial 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.880 plates is Olivia Benson. 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:24.600 So she has a car. I'm concised he has a 0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:25.200 black lust. 0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.840 He's confused, like everyone's confused by this. So now Craigan 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:32.080 and Benson are in her parking garage walking and we're 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.280 looking at a picture of Starla while they walk and talk, 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.840 and Benson's like, no, I've never seen her before. And 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.280 Benson is sad that she's going to jail because she 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.760 is a rape victim. And Cragan's like, you don't understand 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.760 how much personal access, like how much personal info she 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:45.440 had access to. 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.400 In the clerk's office. 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.240 But Benson's still pissed, like these abused women are put 0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.600 up to do these tasks and then take the fall 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:52.200 for these men. 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:52.800 It sucks. 0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.760 It's our old school slogan, don't go to jail for 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.720 a man. We haven't said that a while. Do not 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.280 go to jail for a man. Oh, this might be 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.440 the first time Casey has heard that. That was a 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.520 big deal when we first started. I think we would 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.840 say that a lot. But yeah, we're all shocks. 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:08.399 She has a car. 0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:12.200 It's a sixty five to eighty nine convertible, and Craigan 0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.640 is like huh, and she's like, listen, I had a 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.839 midlife crisis moment, so I bought it. And then we see, 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:19.799 uh oh, the front of the car is fucked up 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.160 and it did hit something. And she's like, oh my god. 0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.520 But she hasn't driven the car in a month. But 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.400 he says, well, someone did, and he immediately turns on her. 0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.560 It's quite crazy, really, like he knows her so well, 0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.080 but right away he's suspicious of her. And she says, well, yes, 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.480 I've been a parking attendant and he's like, well, that's 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.680 a real coincidence, don't you. 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:37.200 I don't know. 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.799 He just yeah, he turned on really fucking quick. He 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.279 really does. And she's dumbfounded. 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.960 So csus to come down and he has to notify iab. 0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.719 She says I didn't do this, and he says, I 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.160 believe you. He says, just go home, get over the flu, 0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.480 take a couple days, but she's obviously stressed. 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.760 She's sick and she's back to work. Baby. 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.239 She refuses to stay home and stay we's like okay, hi, 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.160 and she's like and he breaks in the case and 0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:04.400 Munch is like, we can't talk to you about the case. Uh, 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.799 Craigan's orders and she looks him up and down and 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.839 is like, someone is framing me, So fill me in 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.800 on the details that don't involve me. Stabler informs Benson 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.480 that they found a knife in the trash bin on 0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.080 the scene of the crime. No Prince, but two different 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.640 types of blood, and Cyper is running the DNA. Stabler 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.880 tries to relax her and be like, there are twenty 0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.399 five other partial plate matches, and she's like, and how 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.920 many of them are brunettes with front damage to their cars. 0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.799 Finn mentions Stabler are like, Benson, we don't think you 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.239 did this. She's like, yeah, right, you should have seen 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.000 the looks I got downstairs coming in here. Much of 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.880 all people tells her not to be paranoid. Okay, you know, 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:45.239 because he's always paranoid. Oh yeah, so's He says, Is 0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.000 there another saying that's not pot calling the kettle black? 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:48.160 Like? 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.600 Is there another saying that means the same thing? 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:50.759 Like? 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:52.160 Is that the only option we have? 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:53.799 No? 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.080 I'm sure there are other ones, but now they're of 0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.360 course not coming to my mind right now. 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.480 Yeah, I wonder let us know if you guys know 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.960 of any other sayings. So anyways, he says, it's not 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.560 about the case, babe, it's you look contagious and we 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:09.640 don't really want you here. 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.120 So that's a good one. 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.400 And I can't tell if those are tears of stress 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.520 or sick or during the flu. Your eyes look wet. 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.120 But she is not doing well and she's back to work. 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:20.840 Can we trace the nine one one call? Or what? 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:22.719 We trace the nine one one call? 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.680 And it's a person Khalil Asad And she wants to 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.560 go with and Stabler won't let her, and she gives 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.719 him a really hurt look and goes, yeah, I know 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.239 I'm the prime suspect. So anyway, so she runs off 0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.160 and they're like, where are you going? And she yells 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.400 to clear my name. And now we cut to a 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.279 dead body. Benson's in a gray zippy hoodie with a 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.440 black leather jacket, which to me is like the hottest 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.920 look of all time, and she's standing over the body 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.799 and Melinda walks in Olivia, I just sent over the 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:48.640 autopsy report. 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:49.640 You could have saved a trip. 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.200 But Benson's like, so, did you find anything to identify 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.520 the killer? She goes, well, the mouth was taped at 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:59.040 some point. The wound has undulating borders, not serrated which 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.880 is consistent with the knife they found. And also they 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:06.040 cut his femoral artery, so he suffered but bled out quickly. Melinda, 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.640 after giving some horrific details, is like, so are you okay? 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.600 And she's like, I actually came by to ask you 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.920 a favor, and Melinda answers, I don't have a miracle 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.400 cure for this flu. Sadly, she said, no, I just 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.120 need you to take a DNA swab from me. 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:22.120 But like, don't they have cops DNA? I don't know. 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.480 I don't know because for the bar exam, I mean 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.319 they take lawyers DNA, So like, why wouldn't they take I. 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.840 Think they take your fingerprints. Do they take your DNA? 0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:33.760 I don't know. I wonder. 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:35.760 I was confused why they wouldn't already have the DNA. 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.200 But anyways, so you know, she gives the DNA, she 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.320 gives her a concerned look, and we end that scene 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.200 on Melinda's face. The next scene, we're at Columbia University 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.520 poopen Hall, Puppin' peppine whatever. 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:47.560 We're at a hall. 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.200 It's November tenth, and I wonder if the detectives found 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.760 time to vote during this week of investigating. 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.040 You're always looking at the dates. I can't stop now. 0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.400 It's it's yeah, I'm looking at decor, I'm looking at art, 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.680 I'm looking at dates. But it is science class. It's 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.560 about like a space and sun. Some man is lecturing, 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:10.400 and Fin and Munch creep into the classroom, and once 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.680 class is dismissed and the students are starting to put 0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.600 their shit together, the detectives are like, which one of 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.200 you is Khalil Lesade And. 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.040 We see him. 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.279 I guess he's been really hard to track down, but 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.399 it's also only been like a day, so I don't 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.960 know what's going on. He blamed not answering their calls 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.799 on his heavy class load, and then they're like, hey, bro, 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.680 why did you have that accent in the nine to 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.080 one one call? So he has an accent, and he 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.040 said he didn't make the call. A stranger pulled up 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.040 in a car and said he saw the crime, but 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.480 his battery was dead and asked to use his cell phone. 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.359 This was at a subway at one sixteenth, so it's 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:42.600 three blocks from the crime. 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.080 What did he look like? 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.680 White dude five ten to six feet with brown hair 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:50.080 and nicely dressed, and it's like, fuck, that's tough, and 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.640 obviously that is not like a very descriptive thing. 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.600 I'll help them like an average man. 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.319 But he might have been driving a silver Mercedes, but 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.439 we didn't notice the plate, so it doesn't really make sense. 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.200 So he saw the crime, he sped off, then stopped 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.440 for a call and had enough time to see Liv's 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.239 tax and Craigan's like, okay, we got to start thinking 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.120 the alternative is true, and Finn is like, live didn't 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.720 do this, And any news on the car, he asks, 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.319 and nope, we're still waiting on that. There is no 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.560 update on the car, and the footage and the garage 0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.239 recycles every twenty four hours, and to me, it's like, then, 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:27.279 what's the point, what's the point of having security Within 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:28.400 twenty four hours. 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:28.799 It's taken away. 0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:31.080 Crazy, Yeah, Like, if you're out of town in a 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:32.719 crimes committ you're just out of luck. 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:33.640 It's so stupid. 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.000 So that of course sucks because we can't prove that 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.040 she didn't take the car out that night, and Finn 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.400 says someone is setting her up. Now we cut to 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.640 Olivia in the same gray hoodie going through files and 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.800 Craigan marches out of his office and is like, didn't 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.960 I order you to bed rest? And she's like, I 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.399 gotta find a connection to Clyde and someone that also 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.400 knew about my car. But Craigan's concerned because he's like, 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.080 there's thousands of cases, like you're going to go through 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.840 all of them, and she's like, and she just believes 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:00.560 it has to be through a victim. She goes, it 0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.640 has to be through a victim. Victims always hold something back, 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.160 and Craigan's not buying it, like, really they would hide 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.759 a bike gang. She tells a story about how one 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.200 time shit a woman that like during the rape exam, 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.520 they found crystal meth on her, so like maybe Clyde 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.520 dealt her mess. And Craigan says, I'll have your partner 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.759 follow up on these. Please go home and rest. So 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.600 now we're back at the biker gang and it's just 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.719 like so lame and over. So they pan on all 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.600 the bikers and we hear Stabler on a phone call 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.799 with his wife and he's like, caf gotta work late 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.680 that He's like, oh shit, that's tonight, and then he's like, well, 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.960 I went to Elizabeth's last school play, Diary of Van Frank. 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.560 I was there opening night and it's like, is the 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:43.360 Junior High doing a hole a talented group of young actors, 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:44.160 I mean. 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:46.160 Shoosh. 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.240 While he's chatting the biker from the beginning of this episode, 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.840 you know Colin Quinn but not and then I eventually 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.759 find out there are two men. So I thought this 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.319 Lord four quad is the whole time, but this guy 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:03.040 is actually a different biker. But I got confused. I've 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.359 been confused a lot throughout this whole episode. So while 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:10.719 he's chatting, the biker comes and he starts pouring a 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.560 forty on the hood of Stabler's cop car, and he goes, Babe, Babe. 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:15.000 I gotta guy. 0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.680 So Stabler says, drop the bottle, and he says, I'll 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:21.080 put it up your ass and stop messing with my brothers. 0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.200 And then and then he like tries to punch he misses, 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.640 and Stabler then bends him over the hood of the 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.440 car and is like, what are you a moron? He goes, 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.040 I'm undercover, watch your back, and a bunch of leather 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.000 Daddy's approached. So then Stabler flashes his badge and they're like, 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.919 they know you're a cop, You're in a Crown vic 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.440 you were They know they know he's been there. Yeah, 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:45.439 you're like. So they're like, he's like, what's the color 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:46.960 of the day, and he does know the color. It 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.239 is indigo and I'm at a hotel indigo right now. Coincidence, 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:54.160 I think not. His partner is running surveillance in the 0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.080 parking garage and he's like, go meet him in an 0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:57.759 hour and he'll find he'll fill you in. 0:41:58.160 --> 0:41:59.960 So he uncuffs him and throws. 0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.640 The guy back at the guys because he has to 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.200 go to his kid's school play and it's like, you 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.040 don't have to tell them you have kids, Like, you 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.759 don't have to fill the biker gang in on your schedule, 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.040 and he's like, I don't want you know, this is 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.560 your only free past, guys. I don't want to do paperwork. 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.279 And then the guys are like bite me, and the 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:18.200 boys are like, good one, dude, they're so lame. So 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.880 now stablers with a stressed out cop who's like, you 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.880 could have ruined our investigation. He goes, I can't believe 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.000 the genevest guy would do this to us, and he's 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.919 like we've been stalking them for six months. So yeah, 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.279 he's just like describing their investigation he's like, there's a 0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.440 gun drop happening. They're gonna be selling cranks. Something's happening 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.200 next week. And it's like a man's penis was ripped 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.640 off of his body. Okay, Like I don't know if 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:43.080 this gun sale is more important at the moment, but 0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.560 he does throw Stabler a bone and says that Clyde 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.240 didn't have bad blood with anybody in the gang, and 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.560 then he asks, like, did the name Olivia Benson ever 0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.800 come up? And then he picks up an open file 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.960 and there's a photo of Olivia with all these papers 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:57.920 and he goes, you mean her and the music starts 0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.120 to play why do you have her jacket? And so 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:02.719 then he goes, why are you worried you have a 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:07.160 rogue detective? And Staylor goes no, and the guy's like, relax, relax, 0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.239 and he says her name never came up. I've been 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:10.560 monitoring your investigation. 0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.759 That's it. Her name like never came up. 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.759 So he asked for surveillance photos, and our dudes like 0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.640 not till next week, like we gotta wait for this 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.600 gun like sale to drop, and Stabler's like, well, if 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:24.080 we find out your fucking cop wasn't involved, in Starla's gangbang. 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.880 He's done and he says, nah, he's only a prospect 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.560 into the gang. Those perks are for full members only. 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.040 And I wonder if they do an initiation in light 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:33.839 candles and like say things to each other. 0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.200 There's like a whole thing. It's like it's all in 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.600 Sons of Anarchy. Yeah, oh really? Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot. 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.759 You're a son's creep? So is that what you guys 0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:44.440 call yourself? 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.800 Yep, sounds creeps. 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.880 Sailor then explains what's really going on with Olivia and 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.960 the bogus charges and he's like, please help me, and 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.120 he says, I'll show you one gives him a file. 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.280 Inside is a photo of a man putting a device 0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.320 on Clyde's motorcycle last week. He thought it was a bomb, 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.200 but it was just the GPS tracking device. 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:04.720 Why didn't they do anything? 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.440 Benson is sleeping on a couch with an open file 0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.600 lying right next to her, and a man creeps up 0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.279 over her and he says Detective Benson. And I'm like, 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:13.960 oh my god, who can it be. I'm so scared 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.480 And it's Tucker. Iab let's go baby. So she's like 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.839 a little early no, and he's like, stop playing, you 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:21.799 know why I am here, And before she really gets 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.640 into it, he stops her and says, before you say anything, 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.880 you need to know Clyde's killer has been identified and 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:27.279 it's you. 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:29.040 She is shocked. 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.080 He mirandizes her and walks her down the balcony steps 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.600 into the preestinct's main level and Craigan's like, you bitch, 0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.399 no professional courtesy. You could have given us a heads 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.120 up instead of this dog and pony show. Also, I 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.360 hear all the time about these dog and pony shows. 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:44.239 I would love to go to a dog and pony show. 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:46.440 That seems like my dream? 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.880 Is it? Where is it? I don't see any ponies 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:49.760 at the Kettle Club. 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.680 I'm just saying, next year for my birthday, if you 0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:54.600 can find me a dog and pony show, I would 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.480 love that. Love that tell the group Finn screams. So 0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.120 then Finn screams out don't talk to the rat police 0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:03.520 and that he's going to call the DA for a lawyer, 0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.040 and Tucker spins around and asks if she understands her rights. 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.560 She of course says yeah, duh. 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.160 Munch starts trying to butt in, but he has no 0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.840 patience and drags her off to Central Booking. She says, 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.440 just wait, I've been locked up twice under cover. This 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:18.759 isn't right. I didn't do this. Just talk to me, 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:20.560 and he says you want to chat, and Munch says, 0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.200 don't you fucking do it? Wait for your lawyer, And 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.880 then Tucker's like, I don't think the detective's union's going 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:27.399 to cut it in this case, and I would try 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:29.880 to get a good criminal defense lawyer. She yells, is 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.040 there an interview room open? And Craigan's like no. She says, 0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.920 I want to do this. He asks what happens Sunday night? 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.040 So an investigation room opens and they're sitting and she's 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:43.400 answering questions that she was home in bedsick, and of 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.640 course Tucker's like, can anyone corroborate? She goes, hell, no, 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.080 you know I was alone, Like friends don't hang out 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.000 when someone's sick. So then she asks what the probable 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.080 cause was to get their rest warrant, and so smugly 0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.439 Tucker replies, let's hold your. 0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:58.600 Questions until the end. 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.560 He asks if she's single, and she says, yes, she 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.360 is single, there's no boyfriend, but what's up? Are you 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.279 interrogating me for murder or signing me up for a 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.360 dating service, and he just finds it odd that nobody 0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:13.560 stopped by to look in on her, and it's like, 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.839 what a dick, leave this single woman alone? 0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:19.640 So you have no one in your life, no one 0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:21.520 of importance. Okay, great, it's like. 0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:26.080 Yes, sorry Stabler did, Yeah, sorry, my dad's a rapist 0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.880 and my mom is dead. My bad. And then he 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.080 gets mad at her when she finds her brother. You know, 0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:32.520 he's just he can't. 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.759 Oh god, I cannot honestly, the way he treats her, 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.600 it's really shocking that they ever fucked or dated and 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:40.080 that we liked their relationship. 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:41.120 He's such a dick. 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.000 I don't remember how they got over or like when 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:45.520 the relationship turns Yeah. 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:47.680 I don't know when he turns good either, but I 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:48.520 do think he's hot. 0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:50.680 He's very hot. 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.000 He asks her what her relationship to Clyde is, and she, 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.319 of course says the truth and has no history with 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.759 that dead man. He read his sheet and he's a 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:00.839 rough character and not the type of guy you'd want 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.000 to run into in a dark alley, Like, who is 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.520 a man that you'd like to run into in a 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.800 dark alley, nobody maybe Erkele. 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:08.560 You know, I'd be like my upset. 0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.040 Honestly, if you ran into like Jared in a dark alley, 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:12.160 you'd be like, what's up? 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.560 Are you looking for comic books? Like, well, that's because 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:15.200 we know him. 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:19.160 If he was just walking, I don't know, Yeah, yeah, 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.719 I don't know. Stabler runs in and is like what 0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:24.040 the fuck is going on? And Craigan fills him in 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:27.239 behind the interrogation glass. Craigan is like, you shouldn't be here, 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.719 but Stabler produces the photo with the motorcycle, and the 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:31.839 guy is like, this is who we should be looking for. 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.800 We just need to see if live recognizes him. Tucker 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.640 comes out of the room. I guess he didn't like 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.920 Stabler banging on that glass, and then waves his big 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.279 smug dick around and says only Craigan can watch as 0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:44.160 the boss, not you. 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.839 I'll talk to you later, bitch. And then the. 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.799 Pretty eyed boys go back and forth for a bit, 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:53.000 looking deep into each other's sexy eyes. And then he 0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.279 threatened Stabler like one day I'll have something on you 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.360 to bitch. But then he's like, but I will relay 0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.839 anything you'd like me to relay to Olivia, Nah, I'll 0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.879 figure it out. So then Tucker goes back to talk 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.399 to Benson. So he says, so where was I? 0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:06.640 Where was I? 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:09.560 Like you know, like when you go back to a conversation. 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:17.760 He goes, so where was I? So where was I? 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:21.080 Honestly this should be a commercial for punctuation so kids learn. 0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:26.279 So he says where was I? 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:28.799 She says, you were trying to put me in an 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.759 alley where I wasn't And he walks over slowly to her, 0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.799 but doesn't sit down then looking down on her, so 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:37.040 judgmental asks why she saw a psychiatrist last year? 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:41.160 Excuse me? Yeah, He's like, there is a rumor. Uh 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:41.960 what'd you say? 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:42.160 Oh? 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:46.759 I just said dirtball. I don't like that, like the implication. Yeah. 0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.680 He's like there's a rumor it's for post traumatic stress. 0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:53.560 And she's like, wow, munch was right. Big brother really 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.480 is watching and he's like, well, you weren't shot on duties, 0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.680 so why are you doing that? And she's being vague 0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.480 and says, I was getting help for an issue I 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.400 was having, thank you, and it wasn't even a company shrink, 0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.640 how the fuck did you find out about it? And 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.680 he goes, Stabler told me, and she goes, you're lying 0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:10.560 and surprisingly you suck at it? 0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:11.200 Who told you? 0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.160 He leans in and says, you deal with an awful 0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:16.200 lot of rapists on this job. Did one of them 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.320 overpower you and attack you? And maybe you had a 0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.040 flashback and then you lost it? 0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:20.920 Did you lose it? 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.359 Clyde attacked you and you went back to a place 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.040 of helplessness? And then he berates her like an evil 0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.960 defense attorney on this show would, and she yells and 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.640 she's had enough. Stop playing games and tell me what 0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:35.200 you have on me? DNA positive match to the blood 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:35.800 on the knife. 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:36.280 Fuck. 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:37.719 She can't even believe it. 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.080 She says, I told Warner to run the DNA, Like 0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:41.799 why would I do that if I knew it was me? 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.520 And he says he thinks it's because she wanted to 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:48.239 be caught. She's flabbergasted, and then she says, look, no 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.880 cuts on me. She lifts her sleeves, shows her cleavage 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.439 and like, where did the blood come from? And he goes, 0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:57.880 maybe you had a nosebleed? Okay, all right, come on, yeah, 0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:01.440 Like I can't believe she fucked this man, future, I really. 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.880 Can't, And then. 0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:06.359 Goes, well, we'll find your wounds while we strip search 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.959 you at intake, and the moment is finally hitting her 0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:11.520 as she says I made a mistake and he says, 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.160 then you need to make it right, and she goes, no, 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.240 I mean talking to you. I want a lawyer, duh, 0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.839 listen to your friends. But maybe she wanted to fuck 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.520 him even here, and that's why she was like, I'll 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:25.680 go in interrogation. Melinda runs in and Stabler says hold 0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:27.799 on and runs over to Craigan who's entering the room 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:29.800 and asks if he showed the picture and he says 0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:31.560 as he took her out to the back, and she 0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:33.880 does not know the guy that was fidgeting with the bicycle, 0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:38.080 so the motorbike, the motorcycle. So Stabler's trying to think 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.800 what else he could do to help, but Craigan is like, listen, 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:42.960 it's bad. The DNA is on the knife and he 0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.959 says no way, and it's like, sure, but try telling 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.279 a jury that and then points to Melinda and says, 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.480 especially with her as a witness, not good, and Sabler 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.479 lets his emotions get the best of him. She tries 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:55.319 to explain how live brought her the knife and he 0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:58.160 jumps back and goes, so, you screwed up, And Melinda says, 0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:00.520 excuse me, and he's like, you taint to the evan somehow, 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:02.479 and you got to make it right. She looks pissed 0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:03.719 and froze her brow, and then she's like. 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:04.560 I'm rerunning it. 0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:07.960 I did not make a dis mistake or taint any evidence. 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.920 I don't know how, but this is Olivia's DNA on 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:14.040 that knife. She turns around and leaves as her curls bounce. 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.840 And now we're in prison and we have Tregor Trevor 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.440 Langen and Kara always likes to mention that he's the 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:25.279 personal laundry guy. But who's buying personal? Is it a 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:27.719 cheaper option? Like why would you buy? Or is it 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:31.719 for better clothes? Is it more expensive? I think it's cheaper, I. 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:34.000 Think than tied. I don't know. I don't know what's 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:37.160 a great question. Are they new on the market? Maybe? 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:39.480 Are they like a classic brand? Like I just wonder 0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.600 who's her great question? I don't know what the personal 0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:46.680 vibe is? Yeah, because we know it because of Trevor. 0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:50.600 But you know, so she insults him and is like, gross, 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:52.480 don't talk to me, I wouldn't want to leave one 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:54.120 of your scale clients waiting. 0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:56.400 And he's like, you're the scale client. It's you. 0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.680 What's a scale client? I don't know, Oh, probably gross 0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:02.320 or something. 0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:03.160 Yeah. 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.880 She says, I can't afford you, and he says that 0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:09.280 his retainer has already been paid by some concerned friends. 0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.120 So she does have people in her life. 0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:11.560 Iab. 0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:15.000 She says, it won't be your usual smoke and mirror's case. 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.160 This will be the truth. And he's like, I'm just 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.360 here to say hi and go to arrayment and explain 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:19.759 what's up. 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:21.160 She goes, I know what arrangment is. 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.560 So we're an arrayment and she's charged murder too, and 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.160 the judge asks, how do you plead? She says not guilty, 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.200 and then we hear the voice yell out guilty and 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.480 it's a bunch of bikers hanging out and the judge 0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.319 is not happy and says, anyone do s somethingate that 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.680 again and it's contempt and then he goes capeche and 0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:40.600 I haven't heard that in a while, so I love that. Okay, 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.560 So now we talk bail remander ro r, what will 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:45.759 we do? The judge sets bail at two hundred and 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:48.799 fifty thousand Casher bond. Trevor promises to get her out 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:51.880 of there. Jean Jacket undercover threatens her that he'll make 0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:55.160 sure to tell his friends to say hello, oh my god. 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.360 Stabler put up the bond. He has a bad father, 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:02.440 but he is an incredible friend important to not his wife, 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:07.880 but too Olivia, his sexy coworker. She's like, babe, you 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:10.000 didn't have to and he's like, I wasn't gonna let 0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:12.200 you sit in rikers And she's like, does Kathy know 0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.000 you mortgaged the house for me? And he's like, it's 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:18.160 not a risk, You're innocent, Like, can you imagine Kathy 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.680 already thinks he's having like, first of all, he is 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:24.240 having an emotional affairway, yeah, yeah. She obviously knows Olivia's 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:27.160 the most beautiful woman in the world. They're spending eighteen 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:31.400 hours a day together. Now this motherfucker mortgages their house, 0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:35.919 probably without telling her for sure. She's like, you better 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.319 hope I don't skip down and go to Bolivia or 0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:41.160 belize you decide, and she's like, where are we with 0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:44.480 the real killer? Stabler reveals it's in the paper. Police 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:46.680 seek man for questioning and it's the photo with the 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:49.560 motorcycle and they're hoping somebody knows that man. And so 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:51.439 now we're back at work and Munch says a tip 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:53.600 came in that the guy in the photo is her ex, 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.840 so he's actually a PI in Jersey, and Finn adds, 0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:00.320 but his license was taken away because of a eagle 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:03.359 wire taps. So they're calling Elliott and gonna go pick 0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:05.239 this guy up. And it's a mess. They believe the 0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:07.800 death Knight's got to him first, and there are tons 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:11.239 of pictures of Benson and he's been tailing Benson. There's 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.640 a man groaning stuck under what we can assume is 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:17.000 a heavy, heavy bookcase that Finn flips up like it's 0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.520 like a binder, like, why would the guy be stuck 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:26.080 if they have syrophoam. I just love Finn's acting. They're like, okay, 0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:29.080 pretend this is heavy and it's squashing this man to death. 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:32.600 And he's just like man right up on the wall 0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:35.800 and then he goes spew portable. We need a bus. 0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:38.600 He says, the bikers did this to him, and Stabler's like, duh, 0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:41.399 they're friends with the guy you killed. And he says 0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:43.759 he didn't kill anybody, and he's covered in blood. So 0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:45.719 they're like, why did you set her up for? 0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:46.520 Who? For what? 0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:48.600 Like, tell us what's up? How'd you get the blood? 0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:50.760 And he's like, I just followed her for a client, 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:52.720 that's all. And they're like who who? Who? 0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:54.440 Tell us? And he's groaning. 0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:57.880 So Stabler hits him and he said, bikers took his file. 0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:01.960 But the name is Brady Harrison and Stabler recognizes that name. 0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:03.960 They put him away six or seven years ago for 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:07.080 a string of date rapes, the rypnahal how do you 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:11.240 say real hypnol? It's the ra hypnol rapist. Craigan remembers 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.759 him too, So he got out in April. Okay, so 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:17.920 now we're finally getting somewhere, and his stay in prison 0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:21.040 did overlap with Clyde. Munch got scooped from the jail 0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:23.640 and these guys had an altercation where Clyde walked away 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:27.640 with no injuries, but Brady Harris ended up in the infirmary, 0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:31.160 so he got payback on the way out. So Stabler 0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:33.359 and Finn went to go get him and Munch is like, yeah, 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.600 and hopefully he's still alive. Since the bikers could have 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.560 gotten him first. And it's a mess and that in 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.640 there like in the office, and they announce themselves. 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:41.520 Nobody answers. 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.120 They take their guns out and they see Bowman who's 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.400 a young detective with a side part and a low bun, 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:49.239 and she found a body of a dog in the back. 0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.000 Throat was slip. No sign of Brady though, Jesus. 0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:55.839 So they go to the Death Knights clubhouse raid time 0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.759 and Phil the ls kiss the ground t Bone and 0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:01.799 they asked for Brady Hare and the og okay, So 0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:05.839 this is when I realized that the undercover guy and 0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.360 the guy who loves pool are not the same people. 0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:12.160 And then t Bones another guy was straight hair, so 0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.919 he says they don't have a member by that name. 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:17.719 They go, sure, but you have his address from a 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.440 beat down in Jersey. He asks for a lawyer asap. 0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:23.480 So then he turns to the undercover guy and goes, 0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:25.279 I know you. You tell me in phone. He goes, 0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:27.960 I don't have your girlfriend Brady and Staydlor goes, yeah, 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.440 were you in that brownstone? So he starts running and 0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:32.640 then so they run to talk in secret in a 0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:35.280 different room and they make all these folly art noises 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:38.560 like growing tires around and like doing all this stuff, 0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:40.480 and the dude wasn't home and they don't have him. 0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:42.840 Stabler size, where could he be? 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.320 So we cut to Livy on the phone being pissed 0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:49.160 about a protective detail always but there's a cop car below, 0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:51.359 and Saylor says, until we find this guy, we got 0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:54.239 to watch your ass. His financials just came in and 0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:56.400 Munch is like, guess who guys Mercedes to get a 0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:58.919 dent taken out? So Frick and Frack are like, yeah, 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:01.360 we have the proof and stay like you know, jury's 0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.200 only want to hear about DNA. So Craigan and Melinda 0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:06.440 walk in, and Craigan says that they talked to the 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:09.120 private investigator who's in the hospital, who said that he 0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:12.480 followed Live into a diner back to the utensils after 0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:13.080 she left. 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:15.040 What restaurant manager would allow this? 0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:18.880 I know, like you could just come and steal people's 0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.320 forks after they a and like where are the bus boys? 0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.760 It would have been gone anywhere I heard the bus 0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:27.640 boys would have been on it. So Stabler is still 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:29.960 being a dick to Melinda, and Melinda gets spicy right 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.080 back to him and is like, bitch, I've been working 0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:34.320 hard on this blood case. And so what she did 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.640 was she found an anomaly normal DNA. About eighty percent 0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:41.400 of the markers are methylated and live sample on the 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.360 knife none are. Finn is like, so what does that mean? 0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:46.120 And she says she had to go all the way 0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:50.040 to Israel to find out. Okay, chabat shalom, and much 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:53.760 asks if his people helped him. She's like, maybe, but 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:57.480 also they just set crime investigations back twenty years. This 0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.840 past summer, scientists found a way to fabricate DNA Sailors Like, 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.720 you're joking, and she wishes she was. So basically, you 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.320 could take any random person's blood and whip out all 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.760 the white blood cells that hold the DNA and then 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:12.160 take like lives DNA and amplified it and put it 0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:15.480 in someone else's blood, making the whole sample Olivia's. And 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:19.640 Melinda says, it's brilliant and frighteningly simple. Okay, so where 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:23.920 do we go next? RPG research facility. It's a science 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.720 guy named Joseph, and Finn is there undercover asking for 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:30.240 some blood trick action and brings twenty five grand in cash. 0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:31.960 So the service that this like. 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:34.440 Lab coat guy is like, oh, yeah, for sure, Like 0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:37.000 I'll take some blood and sequence the genome to find 0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:39.840 out what genetic time bounds. People are caring and Finn's like, no, 0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:41.920 I want to set someone up for murder. And he 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:44.600 says no, I only do legal shit and never without 0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:47.960 proper references. And Finn is like, respect, I appreciate you 0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:50.919 taking precautions. But Brady isn't answering his phone and won't 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.200 call me back, and I need someone set up for 0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:56.280 murder now, can you try to call him? So he 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:58.240 flashes his gun a little bit, and the lab coat 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:00.320 guy makes the call, and then we see the cops 0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:03.720 are intercepting the call. Judas ciper, hell yeah baby, and 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.280 it's his voicemail too, But they did get the location 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:10.160 in the city, fuck it lives neighborhood. Stabler is like, 0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.360 tell them not to let anyone in the building. Cut 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:14.680 to Benson on her couch, really cozy, with a knock, 0:59:14.720 --> 0:59:17.440 knock knock on the door and she yells, damn, Callahan, 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:19.520 you have a bladder the size of a pee, and 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:22.120 the phone rings and she says hold on one second, 0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:24.800 and then bang bang, somebody starts knocking down the door, 0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:28.000 and we can assume it's not Callahan. Benson jumps up, 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.680 shocked and like fuck. He says, oh is that call 0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.000 for me? Tell them I'm not here. She runs and 0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:35.040 tries to lock herself in the bedroom, but he's making 0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:36.880 it very hard for her, and he busts in. She 0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:39.280 grabs a lamp. He has a taser. She's like, is 0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:41.240 that what you used for Clyde? And he roasts her 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:43.160 ass like I thought you would go for your gun, 0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.520 but they take those away from you right when you're 0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:48.800 facing a trial for murder. She's like, there's a cop 0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:52.000 downstairs watching the building, and he giggles and reveals not anymore. 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.200 Her phone rings. He won't let her answer it and 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.360 puts it in his pocket. He says, we only have 0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:58.240 a few minutes, so do you have any questions? And 0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:01.560 obviously there's a clear answer that that she's looking for. 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.400 Why did you frame me for murder? And he says, 1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:06.680 why did you have Clyde terrorized me in prison? And 1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:08.960 she's like, I didn't even know Clyde. You think I 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:11.760 arranged a jailhouse brawl? And he yells, you know what 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.360 I'm talking about. She doesn't. She starts to get wet eyes. 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.640 She says, oh my god, she realizes he raped you. 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:20.520 He brutalized me and told everyone that I was a 1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:23.600 punk and therefore everyone to sodomize and trade as sex slaves. 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:25.320 And she's like, why didn't you report it? 1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:27.280 And he's like, come on, they're in on it and 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.160 you were in on it too, and she yells no, 1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:31.280 and he says, you couldn't stand that I had no 1:00:31.360 --> 1:00:33.680 remorse for what I did to those women, And she's like, 1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:36.760 who told you that? And he screams, you did. Don't 1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:39.320 you remember? A pretty boy like you is going to 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:42.280 be real popular in prison. Maybe when you're raped, you'll 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:45.080 understand what you put those women through. She, of course, 1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:47.240 is like, I'm sorry. I should have never said that, 1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:49.360 even if it was just to scare you, I should 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:51.160 have never said that. But I swear to God I 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:53.400 did not arrange for this to happen to you. And 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:55.760 I'm so sorry. And he's like, oh, you're sorry, Well, 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:57.800 I'm not sorry for setting you up for murder and 1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:02.200 DNA Trump's lists hearsay confessed and she's in shock. Where 1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:04.400 did you get my blood? And he says that one 1:01:04.560 --> 1:01:06.520 I'm taking to the grave. And he tries to shoot 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:10.120 himself and she knocks into him yelling gone, and then 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:13.200 grabs his taser during the struggle tases him down. 1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:15.080 Stabler runs in right after that. 1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:17.880 She's okay and says, I think I'm finally getting over 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.240 this damn flu. And he says, good, you got to 1:01:20.280 --> 1:01:22.440 meet the guy who helps him set you up. So 1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:25.919 she breathes in relief, and then Benson and Stabler walk 1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:29.840 in together and to invest into interrogation. So the Labkokai 1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:31.919 is in there and they ask him, like, how many 1:01:31.960 --> 1:01:34.720 other people did you set up for this? And he's like, oh, 1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:37.800 there's no law against what I did. And they're like, honey, 1:01:37.960 --> 1:01:40.320 you helped frame someone for murder. That's a bad thing. 1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:42.600 And they let him know that they found his bookkeeping 1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:44.960 and they're at least a dozen people standing trial or 1:01:44.960 --> 1:01:47.600 in prison for crimes they didn't commit because of your 1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:51.320 fabricated DNA. And this guy is calm as fuck and says, hey, 1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:52.360 it's nothing personal. 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:55.560 It's a brand new market. And Benson is like, do 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:56.280 you get this? 1:01:56.400 --> 1:01:59.160 And Stabler taps in to say, everybody is going to 1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:01.960 say their DNA is cooked up in some lab. But also, 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:05.800 Melinda did eventually find the difference, so like, you know, 1:02:05.880 --> 1:02:07.880 we can't we can't expect everyone to be as good 1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:12.240 as Melinda her job, but like there are anomalies, So 1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:14.200 I guess this is really fucked up and is gonna 1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:17.720 like fuck up investigations. But also like why were the 1:02:17.760 --> 1:02:20.080 other med texts that good? But I guess Melinda had 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:22.160 to do it for a while. I'm not sure so, 1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:24.400 And I'm like, I can't wait to read about the 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:26.000 real one. And I hope this is all fake and 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:27.320 not real and you can't fake DNA. 1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:28.040 I'm so scared. 1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:31.520 It's so easy, he says, And any bio undergrad can 1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:34.640 do it. It's a whole new world. That's fun, a 1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:39.959 whole new world, he laughs, and they're really disturbed by him, 1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:43.040 and then he then says, guess your free ride is over. 1:02:44.560 --> 1:02:46.920 It's like the free ride of like the only medically 1:02:47.240 --> 1:02:49.240 like perfectly accurate thing. 1:02:49.320 --> 1:02:51.520 We have to like get bad people or like get you. 1:02:51.640 --> 1:02:56.360 Thought it was like a free ride, like sucks for you, cops. 1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:59.320 Now you're gonna like it's a free ride. I don't 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:02.480 know whatever. So we're done. This is done. I'm done. 1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:05.320 I need to hear about this real case. Because I'm serified. 1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:09.600 Okay, everybody, enjoy our commercials and we'll be right back. 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:24.320 Okay, we are back. 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:28.160 So this episode draws inspo from a few real life groups, 1:03:28.160 --> 1:03:30.280 people situations, so I'll get into all of them. The 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:34.240 first one is obviously the biker gang angle. Okay, I 1:03:34.280 --> 1:03:35.800 wanted to just talk a little bit about the big 1:03:35.840 --> 1:03:39.720 four criminal biker gangs. And I know a lot of 1:03:39.760 --> 1:03:42.960 this is from Sons of Anarchy because I watched Sons 1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:45.120 of Anarchy, so I knew some of this to begin with, 1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:47.600 but it was interesting to look into, like actually how 1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:51.680 it is. So there's four major big biker gangs that 1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:55.640 are called outlaw biker gangs in the US and abroad 1:03:55.720 --> 1:03:59.680 Hell's Angels MC's, the Outlaws EMCs, the Pagan's MC, and 1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:03.640 the Big the Bandidos. MCMC stands for Motorcycle Club and 1:04:04.520 --> 1:04:06.800 it used to be the outlaw biker gangs. They were 1:04:06.800 --> 1:04:09.520 called outlaw just because they were not officially operating under 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:13.600 the American Motorcycle Association. But then certain chapters of certain 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:17.240 clubs started to operate illegal activities and so obviously like 1:04:17.360 --> 1:04:21.400 running guns, producing drugs, distribution and sales of drugs, prostitution, 1:04:21.520 --> 1:04:24.960 contract violence, racketeering, and motorcycle thefts. So a lot of 1:04:25.040 --> 1:04:29.520 crime started to sneak in. Outlaw motorcycle gangs typically traffic 1:04:29.720 --> 1:04:32.600 meth amphetamine on the West Coast and then cocaine in 1:04:32.640 --> 1:04:35.400 the Midwest and East coast. So interesting, not that they 1:04:35.400 --> 1:04:39.160 can't do both, but you know, normally in Sons of Anarchy, 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:41.160 they're in California, so they're doing a lot of meth. 1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:44.840 And then you know, we thought this guy was dealing 1:04:44.920 --> 1:04:46.880 meth on the East Coast, but it more likely would 1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:49.520 have been coke or weed or something else. Anyway, according 1:04:49.520 --> 1:04:51.440 to the Department of Justice, each of the Big Four 1:04:51.520 --> 1:04:56.120 specialized in drug dealing. The Bandido's mc are involved in cocaine, marijuana, 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:59.959 and meth. Hell's Angels also distribute LSD, ecstasy, and PC. 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:04.400 Both the Pagans and the Outlaws are also centered around cocaine, marijuana, 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:04.800 and meth. 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:07.800 So they've all got their little parts of the market, 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:08.240 I guess. 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:12.280 And my question, are these like white like are these 1:05:12.320 --> 1:05:13.360 mostly white gangs? 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:13.800 Like? 1:05:13.840 --> 1:05:17.520 There are the Bandidos Latino? I don't know. 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:19.960 I would assume that the Bandidos have a Latino thing, 1:05:20.000 --> 1:05:23.000 but they're actually I'll get into it. They're all over 1:05:23.040 --> 1:05:25.120 the world, so it's not just like white people. But 1:05:25.720 --> 1:05:28.520 I would say primarily, yeah. 1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:31.160 I guess I just assume bikers are like in the KKK, 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:33.240 like I don't know why, but I feel like there's 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:33.880 an overlap. 1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:35.920 Mabe, well, there is, there is white but then like 1:05:36.000 --> 1:05:38.760 Danny Pino is in the is in the the like 1:05:39.640 --> 1:05:41.960 oh my god, offshoot, what am I trying to say? 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:44.960 Spin off of Sons of Anarchy that's called the Mayans. 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:48.240 It's about like a Mexican bike gang. So definitely there 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:50.520 are bikangs that are not just white guys. But I 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:52.320 would say when you think of Hell's Angels, you think 1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:54.440 of like white guys with big beards, and that's like 1:05:54.760 --> 1:05:58.400 what a lot of them are. But so The Mayans 1:05:58.520 --> 1:06:01.440 is not a show about ancient Mayan sooll. 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:06.320 Good. Now, well, if Danny Pino ever did this fucking podcast, 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:07.760 we would know more. 1:06:07.800 --> 1:06:10.120 I would know more about the fucking Mayans. 1:06:10.600 --> 1:06:13.080 So all four of these gangs are at war with 1:06:13.080 --> 1:06:15.240 one another and they have murdered one another, so they 1:06:15.280 --> 1:06:17.840 are you know, it's not like all kumbaya, Let's live 1:06:17.840 --> 1:06:18.320 and let live. 1:06:18.400 --> 1:06:19.240 Like they all want to hate. 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:20.960 They all hate each other because they're probably all going 1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:23.760 in on each other's business, like you're trying to, at 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:26.120 least in Sons of anarchy. It's like these guys are 1:06:26.120 --> 1:06:27.840 trying to push in on our guns. These guys are 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:29.600 trying to push in on our meth, like we can't 1:06:29.600 --> 1:06:30.320 have that, you know. 1:06:30.960 --> 1:06:32.920 So the American. 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:36.080 Motorcycle Association said that motorcycle clubs that engage in crime 1:06:36.120 --> 1:06:39.560 and violence like this represent one percent of motorcycle clubs, 1:06:39.760 --> 1:06:42.479 and then the outlaw gangs love that and started calling 1:06:42.480 --> 1:06:45.920 themselves one percenters. And they claim that they've like always 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:48.320 had the phrase one percent or that that's been their thing. 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:50.880 So like you'll see motorcycle guys with like patches that 1:06:50.960 --> 1:06:53.640 say like one percent, and it's not about their economic standing. 1:06:53.640 --> 1:06:55.960 It's about the fact that they're part of the one 1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:59.960 percent of motorcycle clubs that fuck people up. So all 1:07:00.080 --> 1:07:03.000 of all of these four motorcycle clubs, all of them 1:07:03.040 --> 1:07:05.960 but the Pagans, are international. The Pagans choose to stay 1:07:06.080 --> 1:07:09.160 just within the US. But the Hell's Angels, for example, 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:13.360 have four hundred and sixty seven charters across fifty nine countries, 1:07:13.600 --> 1:07:15.920 like they have charters in Egypt, like they have charters 1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:19.440 all over the place, so some are like in Australia, Norway, 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:21.040 places where it would obviously have like a lot of 1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:24.000 white people, but you know, other places different. So a 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:26.920 bunch of these chapters also, I should mention participate in 1:07:27.000 --> 1:07:28.920 charity work. There was like a lot of examples in 1:07:28.920 --> 1:07:32.000 my research of like how these guys will deliver school supplies. 1:07:32.240 --> 1:07:34.440 But it's like the mafia or you know, a lot 1:07:34.480 --> 1:07:37.840 of organized crime. It's like they protect their neighborhoods. They're like, yes, 1:07:37.880 --> 1:07:40.600 we're dealing drugs, we're doing xyz, but we're also like 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:43.000 if somebody murders someone, we're gonna find out who did that, 1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:45.880 or if there's like you know, in in Sons of 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:49.520 a Hierarchy, like they were constantly figuring out like personal 1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:53.000 crimes and like playing robinhood a little bit. So outlaw 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:56.600 motorcycle gangs have been increasing their presence and criminal activity 1:07:56.600 --> 1:07:59.720 throughout Europe since two thousand and five, using firearms and 1:07:59.720 --> 1:08:02.240 greens needs to get their way, and they're involved in 1:08:02.320 --> 1:08:05.840 drug trafficking, murder, money laundering, and extortion. So I guess 1:08:05.840 --> 1:08:08.360 they're blowing up in Europe too. No pun intended with 1:08:08.400 --> 1:08:11.680 the grenades. But in recent years, prosecutors have been trying 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:15.959 to take down these outlaw motorcycle gangs using RICO, which 1:08:16.000 --> 1:08:19.200 is RICO is Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations ACT. 1:08:19.280 --> 1:08:20.920 And in Sons of Anarchy. 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:22.519 There is a huge storyline where they're trying to get 1:08:22.520 --> 1:08:23.599 them on RICO charges. 1:08:24.040 --> 1:08:25.439 And this is just a. 1:08:25.479 --> 1:08:28.840 General overview of what motorcycle clubs are. If you want 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:31.000 more information, there is a lot of I have links 1:08:31.040 --> 1:08:33.320 in my bio, in our in our not my bio, 1:08:33.400 --> 1:08:37.720 links in our show notes, and also tons of Anarchy 1:08:36.720 --> 1:08:40.600 in my personal bio there will be links about Hell's Angels. No, 1:08:40.720 --> 1:08:43.240 but also Sons of Anarchy is actually a great resource 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:44.760 if you want to know more about these clubs, because 1:08:44.840 --> 1:08:46.760 I just found out that one of the characters on 1:08:46.760 --> 1:08:50.320 the show, this guy Happy, is a real life Hell's 1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:52.559 Angel and was the technical advisor on the show, and 1:08:52.560 --> 1:08:56.160 he's like a character on the show, but it is 1:08:56.200 --> 1:08:58.520 a whole thing in the show, like there are prospects 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:00.120 they have to do all this fucked up shit to 1:09:00.200 --> 1:09:02.400 become full members, Like you know. 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:05.880 Are there any bad guys that are nice to women? 1:09:06.640 --> 1:09:06.720 Like? 1:09:06.920 --> 1:09:11.160 Are there just criminals and drug dealers that respect women anywhere, 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:12.799 Like please, we got to watch. 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:15.040 Queen of the South where there woman is the drug dealer. 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:16.639 Maybe that's the key. 1:09:17.920 --> 1:09:20.960 Maybe it's just like, yeah, these bikers don't seem that bad. 1:09:21.040 --> 1:09:24.880 I love I love drugs. I you know, like where 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:28.519 leather do charity work? Do you have to rape the women? 1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:28.920 You know? 1:09:29.000 --> 1:09:31.519 It's like yeah, they're just they're running like they run 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:34.360 a lot of Like yeah, definitely in Sons of Anarchy 1:09:34.400 --> 1:09:36.160 there were like women hanging around that were just there 1:09:36.200 --> 1:09:36.800 for anyone to. 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:38.880 Have sex with, Like for sure. 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:42.639 I definitely I love that hot guy in it, and 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:45.200 I love Married with Children. 1:09:45.320 --> 1:09:48.400 Katie sigh, Katie sigal, Oh my god. 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:49.559 We want to watch it. I just can't watch that 1:09:49.640 --> 1:09:50.800 much violence against women. 1:09:50.880 --> 1:09:55.559 J She has one of the most like truly has 1:09:55.600 --> 1:09:58.240 shaken me to my core sexual assaults committed on her 1:09:58.400 --> 1:10:04.160 in that show. Horrible, horrible, horrible. So any incredible actress. 1:10:04.200 --> 1:10:07.040 But yeah, she's an amazing actress. But yeah, it's a lot. 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:08.800 But she also commits a lot of violence on that 1:10:08.840 --> 1:10:09.400 show as well. 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:11.200 So I'm impressed. 1:10:11.400 --> 1:10:14.679 Besides the son, I'm really impressed that all three people, 1:10:14.840 --> 1:10:17.320 like the main people from Married with children, like had 1:10:17.360 --> 1:10:19.840 a career, took a break, and then killed it again. 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:22.400 Yeah, like that happened to again. 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:26.040 I don't know what's up with Bud, but funny, I 1:10:26.040 --> 1:10:28.000 don't need like all of them are just like have 1:10:28.080 --> 1:10:30.559 been successful for so long and I love to see that. 1:10:30.800 --> 1:10:32.120 Sorry, let's go, let's go. 1:10:32.240 --> 1:10:32.280 No. 1:10:32.439 --> 1:10:35.519 I and I got to see Marcy the neighbor from 1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:36.280 next door at the Bros. 1:10:36.280 --> 1:10:38.360 Premiere and I was gagged. I was like, you did 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:39.559 you say? Yes? 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:41.960 I said hi to her and the coach from Glee. 1:10:42.000 --> 1:10:43.400 They're both in the movie and I love them. And 1:10:43.400 --> 1:10:44.880 I was like, you guys were great in the movie. 1:10:45.160 --> 1:10:47.559 And Marcy goes she's great in it, and I was like. 1:10:47.720 --> 1:10:49.240 You're so great at it too. But I wanted to 1:10:49.280 --> 1:10:49.880 be like Marcy. 1:10:50.000 --> 1:10:51.599 But I didn't want to get into my like full 1:10:51.640 --> 1:10:55.080 married with children like I was obsessed. Anyway, That's the 1:10:55.160 --> 1:10:57.320 end of my section on the motorcycle gangs. Just a 1:10:57.320 --> 1:11:00.679 little bit of background the next subject, the fake DNA 1:11:00.760 --> 1:11:05.760 thing is real. Okay, So a scientist named Dan Frumken 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:08.760 wrote an article published in Forensic Science International in two 1:11:08.800 --> 1:11:12.680 thousand and nine alleging that it is possible to fake DNA. 1:11:12.800 --> 1:11:14.120 He founded a company. 1:11:14.400 --> 1:11:16.400 He's not the same as the guy in this episode, 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:19.320 because what he did was he founded a company called Nucleix, 1:11:19.840 --> 1:11:24.040 which is in an Israel, which was created to test 1:11:24.240 --> 1:11:27.640 to identify fake samples. Okay, So he basically was like, 1:11:27.840 --> 1:11:28.120 this is. 1:11:28.120 --> 1:11:28.960 Something people can do. 1:11:29.120 --> 1:11:31.320 I figured out a way that we can figure out 1:11:31.560 --> 1:11:33.959 that they're not doing that. It's, you know, to disprove 1:11:34.040 --> 1:11:37.800 the fake DNA. So Israeli scientists, according to his paper, 1:11:37.840 --> 1:11:41.200 were able to fabricate blood and saliva samples containing DNA 1:11:41.600 --> 1:11:44.360 different from the donor. And they did this in exactly 1:11:44.400 --> 1:11:45.800 the way that they talk about on the show. They 1:11:45.880 --> 1:11:49.040 like spin out the white blood cells, like amplify the DNA, 1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:51.439 put it back in, and then it I. 1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:54.120 Just imagine the white blood cells being like we. 1:11:57.360 --> 1:11:57.400 My. 1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:03.720 And they also showed that if they had access to 1:12:03.760 --> 1:12:06.240 a DNA profile in a database, they could construct a 1:12:06.280 --> 1:12:09.639 sample of DNA to match that profile without obtaining any 1:12:09.640 --> 1:12:12.840 tissue from that person. So Frumpkin told The New York Times, 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:14.759 you can just engineer a crime scene. 1:12:14.920 --> 1:12:15.280 Quote. 1:12:15.280 --> 1:12:20.280 He said, any biology undergraduate could perform this wild and 1:12:20.360 --> 1:12:22.120 he said it could also be possible to get a 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:24.439 sample of someone's DNA from a soda can or a 1:12:24.439 --> 1:12:26.880 cigarette turn it into a saliva sample which could then 1:12:26.920 --> 1:12:29.920 be submitted to ancestry dot com or anything like that, 1:12:30.240 --> 1:12:33.080 and celebrities would have to fear something called quote unquote 1:12:33.120 --> 1:12:36.240 genetic paparazzi, which is something that Gail H. Javitt of 1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:39.040 the Genetics and Public Policy Center at Johns Hopkins said, 1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:42.960 I looked up nucleics and it said and it still exists, 1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:45.799 but they now mostly sell tests to check for bladder 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:50.040 and lung cancer. So I feel like because not many 1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:52.080 people know how to fake the DNA, even though it 1:12:52.080 --> 1:12:57.639 would be easy, like their their idea of selling tests 1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:00.639 to debunk fake DNA like didn't work out out as 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:03.479 a business venture, but it is wild that it's possible 1:13:03.520 --> 1:13:04.559 and not a hard thing to do. 1:13:05.000 --> 1:13:06.320 And I get, well, how do we know? 1:13:06.439 --> 1:13:09.120 I'm like I said, Melinda is above and beyond like 1:13:09.240 --> 1:13:13.439 most medical examiners like no, Tino Shaye, But like what 1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:13.840 if they. 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:15.040 Say, well, we have we have. 1:13:15.840 --> 1:13:18.640 We have some listeners who are forensic girls and I 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:21.240 mean guys too, but like get in touch with us, 1:13:21.240 --> 1:13:22.960 tell us, like are they now just testing to see 1:13:22.960 --> 1:13:24.520 if all the DNA is methylated? 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:24.840 Now? 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:27.280 Or eighty percent, like the way that Melinda did. Like, 1:13:27.320 --> 1:13:30.519 I don't know how they're really disproving it, but they are. 1:13:31.080 --> 1:13:32.680 It is not It does not seem like a thing 1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:36.400 that's happening all the time, you know. But the third 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:39.400 case that this is supposedly drawn off of, this seems 1:13:39.400 --> 1:13:41.080 like a bit, a bit of a bigger stretch, But 1:13:41.080 --> 1:13:42.600 I wanted to talk about it anyway, because it's an 1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:45.679 interesting case. Like the fandom wiki says, this is based 1:13:45.720 --> 1:13:49.680 on Frederick Zaine, who is a forensic lab was a 1:13:49.680 --> 1:13:53.520 forensic laboratory tech in West Virginia and Texas who falsified 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:59.360 sorology results to obtain convictions. So this guy famously nineteen 1:13:59.400 --> 1:14:02.000 seventy seven and he's hired as a chemist at West Virginia, 1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:05.080 of course, my husband's home state, West Virginia State Police 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:08.719 Crime Laboratory. He later became director of the sorology Department 1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:11.200 at the State Department of Public Safety, which is also 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:12.400 known as the State Police. 1:14:12.479 --> 1:14:13.960 Later, so that's what happened. 1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:16.160 In seventy nine, he became the director of the strology department, 1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:18.840 and he worked with the WVU State Police till nineteen 1:14:18.880 --> 1:14:21.800 eighty nine, So a decade turns out he got the 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:26.280 job in the zerology apartment department completely by falsifying his credentials, 1:14:26.280 --> 1:14:28.800 which conveniently no one checked. It was like the seventies. 1:14:29.200 --> 1:14:31.400 He said he minored in chemistry. He actually had only 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:33.400 taken a few chem classes and had either failed them 1:14:33.479 --> 1:14:38.160 or barely passed them. He got a reputation among prosecutors 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:41.280 in West Virginia for being able to solve hard cases, 1:14:41.680 --> 1:14:43.720 so now all of them wanted to use him as 1:14:43.720 --> 1:14:47.839 an expert. And then in nineteen eighty five, FBI Laboratory 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:50.640 director James Greer told the West Virginia State Police that 1:14:50.720 --> 1:14:54.280 Zay had failed basic courses in roology and testing bloodstains 1:14:54.560 --> 1:14:57.880 and nothing happened in another incident two co workers. 1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:01.720 How did the FBI get involved in this? Yes, I 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:03.519 don't know. I don't know. 1:15:04.479 --> 1:15:07.519 Maybe like they got notified someone was crushing it. Maybe 1:15:07.520 --> 1:15:09.320 they wanted to hire him for the FBI because he 1:15:09.360 --> 1:15:11.479 was so good at it, and then they realized he 1:15:11.560 --> 1:15:11.880 was fake. 1:15:12.520 --> 1:15:15.519 Maybe also, like some of these cases did get tossed 1:15:15.600 --> 1:15:17.800 up to the FBI, because like I'm gonna talk about 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:19.880 a specific case in a second, so it's possible maybe 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:22.639 that was the case. That got them like turned onto 1:15:22.680 --> 1:15:27.120 him and his false bullshit. But then in another incident, 1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:30.240 two coworkers claim to have seen him record blood records 1:15:30.360 --> 1:15:32.920 from a blank test plate, and like, none of these 1:15:32.960 --> 1:15:35.360 complaints were taken seriously because it was known that the 1:15:35.400 --> 1:15:38.360 workers in Zane did not get along with each other. Hilarious, 1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:40.519 So they're like, you guys just don't like each other, 1:15:40.640 --> 1:15:41.360 leave it alone. 1:15:41.640 --> 1:15:43.719 But why would you just take Zaane's side. 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:46.439 It's so I don't know, but you know, you hear 1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:48.400 about this all the time, fake it till you make it. 1:15:48.479 --> 1:15:50.680 Like guys just charming their way through jobs like this. 1:15:50.760 --> 1:15:52.840 Maybe he had a good personality, I don't know, but 1:15:52.920 --> 1:15:55.839 the prosecutors loved him because he was like getting cases 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:59.640 done because he was fucking falsifying everything. So it's like 1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:02.240 whatever they needed, he made it happen, you know, like 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:05.240 engineering a crime scene essentially. So when one of his 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:08.960 supervisors wrote to the FBI about his concerns about Zane's 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:12.760 test results, the reports that agents made amusing comments like 1:16:13.439 --> 1:16:15.800 quote Fred doesn't do things by the book and called 1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:20.320 him quote pro prosecution but recommended no action, so that 1:16:20.439 --> 1:16:22.360 by the next year he had become head of the 1:16:22.360 --> 1:16:25.840 Crime Laboratory. In nineteen eighty nine, he left West Virginia 1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:28.799 to become the chief of physical evidence at the Bexar County, 1:16:29.000 --> 1:16:32.720 Texas Medical Examiner's Office. And Bexar County is where San 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:36.240 Antonio is, by the way, and he was still getting 1:16:36.280 --> 1:16:38.519 calls to go back to West Virginia and testify even 1:16:38.560 --> 1:16:40.760 after he'd gone. So this is kind of the case 1:16:40.960 --> 1:16:44.519 I think that blew open his scheme. In nineteen eighty seven, 1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:48.160 a guy named Glenn Woodhall was convicted of multiple felonies, 1:16:48.200 --> 1:16:50.760 including two cases of sexual assault, and a huge part 1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:53.720 of his conviction was Zane's testimony regarding seamen from one 1:16:53.720 --> 1:16:56.400 of the victims. Woodall got three hundred and thirty five 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:58.960 years in prison, and that was in eighty seven. In 1:16:59.040 --> 1:17:03.200 eighty eight, DNA testing, the first ever admitted as evidence 1:17:03.240 --> 1:17:05.719 at the state level in the United States in this case, 1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:09.120 proved conclusively that Woodall was innocent and that the conviction 1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:12.479 and the commission was then reversed. Zayn had used flawed 1:17:12.479 --> 1:17:15.200 blood typing methods in tying the seamen to Woodhall. He 1:17:15.240 --> 1:17:18.200 had also initially determined a piece of hair was unidentifiable 1:17:18.240 --> 1:17:21.360 pubic hare, but like later changed his identification, saying it 1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:24.800 was hair from Woodall's beard and then Woodhall. So he 1:17:24.920 --> 1:17:27.160 was freed in nineteen ninety two, and he sued the 1:17:27.160 --> 1:17:30.400 state for false imprisonment and won a one million dollar settlement, 1:17:30.960 --> 1:17:33.880 and at the request of the Virginia State Police, the 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:38.640 Canawa County Prosecutor William Forbes started a criminal investigation, and 1:17:38.680 --> 1:17:41.519 he was very disturbed by what he discovered, to the 1:17:41.560 --> 1:17:43.600 point that he asked the Supreme Court of Appeals in 1:17:43.640 --> 1:17:46.040 West Virginia to appoint a special judge and panel of 1:17:46.120 --> 1:17:50.720 lawyers and scientists to investigate the sorology Department, because in 1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:54.759 nineteen ninety three, Senior Circuit Court Judge James Holliday issued 1:17:54.800 --> 1:17:57.200 a report finding that Zaine had engaged in a crazy 1:17:57.200 --> 1:18:00.679 amount of misconduct and straight up fraud. He had missed evidence, 1:18:00.880 --> 1:18:04.840 falsified lab results, and reported scientifically implausible results, and he 1:18:04.880 --> 1:18:07.000 may have been responsible for one hundred and thirty four 1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:12.519 people being wrongly convicted. His misconduct was ruled so bad 1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:15.599 that any of his testimony going forward should be presumed 1:18:15.640 --> 1:18:17.760 as invalid, unreliable, and inadmissible. 1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:18.840 Not going forward, but like. 1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:21.920 In looking back at the cases he got fired in Texas, 1:18:21.960 --> 1:18:23.840 as soon as they heard about the West Virginia ship. 1:18:23.840 --> 1:18:25.200 But of course they're going to check out what he's 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:27.800 been doing there, and in their investigation into his misconduct, 1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:30.280 he may have resulted in one hundred and eighty were 1:18:30.520 --> 1:18:34.519 wrongful convictions in Bexter County. So the Texas investigation found 1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:37.519 a lot of instances of him filing reports on tests 1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:40.759 that had never been done, reporting negative results as positive, 1:18:40.800 --> 1:18:45.080 and describing inconclusive results as conclusive. So West Virginia paid 1:18:45.080 --> 1:18:47.639 a total of six point five million dollars to settle 1:18:47.680 --> 1:18:50.280 lawsuits by people who had been wrongfully convicted due to him. 1:18:50.640 --> 1:18:54.400 He of course denied everything. He was charged with fraud eventually, 1:18:54.479 --> 1:18:57.680 but his trial was delayed indefinitely after he was diagnosed 1:18:57.680 --> 1:19:00.679 with liver cancer in twenty and twenty, charged with four 1:19:00.720 --> 1:19:03.720 counts of obtaining money by false pretenses. I don't know 1:19:03.760 --> 1:19:06.720 why that's the charge, but the jury deadlocked and then 1:19:06.720 --> 1:19:08.840 a new fraud trial was scheduled for July of two 1:19:08.880 --> 1:19:11.120 thousand and three, but actually in December of two thousand 1:19:11.160 --> 1:19:13.720 and two he died of the liver cancer. So he 1:19:13.800 --> 1:19:15.599 never really paid for his crimes. And I just hope 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:18.080 that they got all of those people out of jail 1:19:18.120 --> 1:19:19.680 and were able to exonerate the one. 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:23.920 What the fuck? I know, crazy? 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:27.120 And so many people complained and THEBI told you there 1:19:27.200 --> 1:19:27.759 was issues. 1:19:28.080 --> 1:19:30.640 Ted Bundy's girlfriend called the police three times instead, I 1:19:30.640 --> 1:19:32.760 think it's my boyfriend, you know, like the cops just 1:19:32.800 --> 1:19:35.759 like I mean, different bureaucracies just don't listen. 1:19:35.840 --> 1:19:40.600 I don't know this is well. I just someone posted. 1:19:40.280 --> 1:19:44.920 A video on Instagram of like how men's confidence when 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:48.240 they enter the workforce is super high and then decreases 1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:52.800 over time, and women starts out really low and goes 1:19:52.920 --> 1:19:57.440 higher and that at age forty, men and women's confidences intersect, 1:19:58.400 --> 1:20:01.000 and the woman's saying this was just like and I 1:20:01.080 --> 1:20:03.120 don't know where the men get the confidence since they've 1:20:03.200 --> 1:20:06.400 never done the job, but they just still feel good, 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:10.880 and like what at a fucking example of just like yeah, 1:20:10.880 --> 1:20:13.400 and like you know that this guy just liked being 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:13.960 part of it. 1:20:14.040 --> 1:20:16.200 You know he probably just was like, yes, like being 1:20:16.240 --> 1:20:19.559 I like testifying, I like closing cases. I love that 1:20:19.600 --> 1:20:22.360 the prosecutors think that I'm their guy for like closing 1:20:22.400 --> 1:20:25.479 tough cases when it's like you're just and in his mind, 1:20:25.520 --> 1:20:27.599 he's probably like these guys did it. I'm just helping 1:20:27.640 --> 1:20:29.920 push it along, you know. Well, it's like. 1:20:29.880 --> 1:20:33.479 That drug scandal documentary where one was like an addict 1:20:33.560 --> 1:20:36.040 fucking up and stealing pills, but the other one she 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:37.439 liked being in with the cops. 1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:39.880 She liked being in with the prosecution. 1:20:40.160 --> 1:20:42.120 Like she was like, Oh, we're a team, and that's 1:20:42.120 --> 1:20:43.320 why she falsified shit. 1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:46.439 She wanted to be with it. 1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:48.760 It's like weird power trips people go on and they 1:20:48.760 --> 1:20:50.880 don't care about like just wrecking people's lives because I 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:53.080 guess they assume that they're criminals about. 1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:54.799 Fuck anyone that hired him, Fuck anyone. 1:20:54.840 --> 1:20:57.000 And like, our friend works at not a big thing, 1:20:57.040 --> 1:20:59.559 but I'm I'm thinking about the guy that works with 1:20:59.600 --> 1:21:03.439 her that's ruining everyone's life for years now and doesn't 1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:06.439 do anything, gets away with it. No one will fire 1:21:06.479 --> 1:21:09.639 him because the male bosses are also like, he's fine 1:21:09.760 --> 1:21:13.599 until it reaches critical. Yeah, like the worst thing ever. 1:21:13.680 --> 1:21:15.760 And thank god those steaks aren't as high as this, 1:21:15.960 --> 1:21:20.280 but it's like it's fucking nuts. Oh this is nuts. Wow, 1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:22.519 thank you for telling us all those things. 1:21:22.760 --> 1:21:23.519 No worries. 1:21:23.840 --> 1:21:27.439 I am really excited for our guests though, So let's 1:21:27.680 --> 1:21:30.280 shake off the fake DNA and get ready to talk 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:30.599 to her. 1:21:37.800 --> 1:21:40.200 Okay, our actor guest. 1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:43.360 Today is not only an actor, but a cook and 1:21:43.400 --> 1:21:46.720 a Hooter's enthusiast. You know her best from her role 1:21:46.760 --> 1:21:49.519 as Leeann Taylor on Orange is the New Black Baby, 1:21:49.760 --> 1:21:52.479 but she's also been in a bunch of episodes of SVU, 1:21:52.600 --> 1:21:56.719 including today's where you Knew her as the Biker Mama Starla. Guys, 1:21:56.880 --> 1:21:58.960 please enjoy our chat with Emma Miles. 1:22:00.360 --> 1:22:00.559 Hi. 1:22:02.000 --> 1:22:03.439 I believe that happy. 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:05.840 Yeah, it was so nice to me, you guys, Oh 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:06.280 my god. 1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:13.080 We love talking to an SVU like multiple timer, you know. 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:16.439 Three I did so exciting well. 1:22:16.520 --> 1:22:20.320 And also on your like Orange wiki, it says that 1:22:20.360 --> 1:22:24.160 you met Dasha Polanco before you guys started shooting Orange 1:22:24.240 --> 1:22:26.479 in an audition for Lawn Order SVU. 1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:26.880 Yeah. 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:29.759 Yeah, it was in the It was in the waiting 1:22:29.840 --> 1:22:33.920 room and we weren't auditioning for the same part. But 1:22:35.080 --> 1:22:38.960 she went in before me, and then I went in 1:22:39.120 --> 1:22:41.720 a little bit later, and then we didn't see each other, 1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:42.479 and I'd never you. 1:22:42.400 --> 1:22:44.439 Know, I didn't I'd never met her before. 1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:46.720 So I was just like to do and I was 1:22:46.760 --> 1:22:49.760 on the subway platform and I was like going home 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:52.080 on the D train because they lived in Bay Ridge 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:54.160 at the time, so it's like transferring to an R 1:22:54.680 --> 1:22:57.160 at Sunset Park and she lived in Sunset Park two. 1:22:57.560 --> 1:23:00.200 So she got on the D train and she was like, Hey, 1:23:00.479 --> 1:23:02.479 were you just in that SPU audition And I. 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:07.479 Was like yeah, And so we like sat next to 1:23:07.520 --> 1:23:09.799 each other and we talked the entire way to Brooklyn, 1:23:10.200 --> 1:23:12.479 and we like exchanged numbers, and we were both just 1:23:12.520 --> 1:23:15.679 like having a really hard time with the business and 1:23:15.720 --> 1:23:16.880 everything was just like. 1:23:17.000 --> 1:23:19.680 Really tough for both of us, and we were just like, uh. 1:23:19.720 --> 1:23:23.120 And I was like planning on moving back to California 1:23:23.160 --> 1:23:26.400 after being in New York for twelve years at this point. 1:23:26.439 --> 1:23:30.720 This was twenty twelve, and and she was like, yeah, 1:23:30.760 --> 1:23:33.400 I think I'm gonna go like back to nursing, Like 1:23:33.479 --> 1:23:34.759 I don't really know what I'm doing. 1:23:34.880 --> 1:23:36.880 I'm I feel really crazy right now. And I was like, 1:23:36.920 --> 1:23:37.760 oh my god, me too. 1:23:37.920 --> 1:23:38.200 Same. 1:23:38.560 --> 1:23:40.679 So we exchanged numbers and then like my life got 1:23:40.800 --> 1:23:45.280 like absolutely insane, like I went through a fire. It 1:23:45.320 --> 1:23:47.479 was just placed for my house. I was like definitely 1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:49.840 moving back to California. It was like there was it 1:23:49.960 --> 1:23:57.080 was the most extreme Saturn return ever. And so I 1:23:57.160 --> 1:23:59.640 kind of like forgot about it and then like I 1:23:59.680 --> 1:24:03.080 booked Orange and the first day I was on set, 1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:07.360 I was at Crafty and I walked over and she 1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:13.200 turned around and we were like, oh my god, and uh, 1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:14.599 you know, the rest is history. 1:24:14.640 --> 1:24:15.160 It was love. 1:24:15.320 --> 1:24:17.360 Did either of you get the part on SVU that 1:24:17.400 --> 1:24:22.880 you were auditioning for? No, you know what all those 1:24:23.439 --> 1:24:26.680 problems led to Orange? You know, it's like it was 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:30.120 meant to be your first episode that you did. 1:24:30.479 --> 1:24:32.960 Was this one or Haunted? Which one was first? 1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:33.760 Haunted? 1:24:34.000 --> 1:24:34.920 Haunted was first? 1:24:35.040 --> 1:24:37.479 Yeah, and then so then what did they bring you 1:24:37.520 --> 1:24:40.320 back as Starla just like they remembered you? Or like 1:24:40.360 --> 1:24:42.640 did you have to audition again or what happened? No? 1:24:42.720 --> 1:24:46.160 I had to audition again, guys. I mean for Haunted. 1:24:46.360 --> 1:24:49.840 That was actually the first job I ever had. Like 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:54.080 that job got my sad guard. So so yeah, that 1:24:54.280 --> 1:24:57.240 was like and that was like my first real audition, 1:24:57.640 --> 1:24:59.760 like out of acting school. It was like I was 1:24:59.760 --> 1:25:01.559 trying to to impress the agency I was at at 1:25:01.560 --> 1:25:04.920 the time, and they like didn't they didn't want to 1:25:04.960 --> 1:25:07.280 sign me, but they wanted to freelance with me. And 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:12.280 I was like, oh yeah, you're like gu and it 1:25:12.320 --> 1:25:15.040 was I was like having such a weird situation because 1:25:15.040 --> 1:25:16.680 I was like, I need I need something. I'm a 1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:22.360 very like, I'm a very like committed actor and I 1:25:22.400 --> 1:25:27.280 was playing a meth addict and I was like, I 1:25:27.320 --> 1:25:30.599 feel like my eyes need to be like glazy or whatever. 1:25:31.000 --> 1:25:32.880 And I looked at my purse and I had like 1:25:33.479 --> 1:25:37.200 some CarMax, some like Menthol CarMax. So I just like 1:25:37.240 --> 1:25:39.840 put it all over my eyes and they made me 1:25:39.920 --> 1:25:42.840 like all like you know, not able to really like 1:25:42.960 --> 1:25:45.280 see properly and just be like. 1:25:45.360 --> 1:25:46.360 Gross and awful. 1:25:46.880 --> 1:25:48.679 And then I booked the job, and then the agency 1:25:48.720 --> 1:25:51.040 signed me, and I was like whoa. 1:25:51.240 --> 1:25:53.160 And I got my sad card and I was like whoa, 1:25:53.800 --> 1:25:54.479 But no. 1:25:54.400 --> 1:25:56.000 I had the Carmacks burn. 1:25:56.520 --> 1:25:58.040 Yeah, the Menthol does. 1:25:58.280 --> 1:25:58.920 Yeah. 1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:02.760 Yeah, it's like it's like putting peppermint all over your eye. 1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:07.400 It's just it's awful. It's trash. It's great for your lips, 1:26:07.400 --> 1:26:12.680 which trash for rivals. But but yeah, I mean the 1:26:12.720 --> 1:26:17.760 way that the way that that casting office works is 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:21.840 if they like you, they they'll bring you in as 1:26:21.920 --> 1:26:24.160 much as they they think. 1:26:24.040 --> 1:26:26.360 You're right for whatever parts they have available. 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:29.960 But but if you book something, there's like a rule 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:33.280 where you can't you can't. 1:26:33.080 --> 1:26:36.000 Come back for like another couple of years. 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:36.559 Yeah. 1:26:36.840 --> 1:26:40.960 So there was like a four year period between when 1:26:41.000 --> 1:26:43.720 I did my first episode of SVU and then when 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:44.439 I booked Starla. 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:46.800 But I was really stoked when I booked Starlak because 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:48.439 I was like, I get to work with Christmas money. 1:26:48.960 --> 1:26:51.240 Yeah yea ellas. 1:26:51.840 --> 1:26:55.439 And I'm a huge, wet hot American summer fan me too, 1:26:56.439 --> 1:27:00.760 So it was just like it was really a special time. 1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:04.719 Did he meet your expectations when you met him? 1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:07.080 Like, do you have any memories from that? 1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:07.960 Yes? 1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:12.320 I mean there was a he I worked with him 1:27:13.200 --> 1:27:15.880 my second day of filming, But there was like a 1:27:15.920 --> 1:27:17.800 period of time in between my first day and my 1:27:17.880 --> 1:27:20.200 second day because on my first day I got injured 1:27:20.280 --> 1:27:21.519 and I had to go. 1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:22.080 To the hospital. 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:25.360 Wait what happened? What? 1:27:25.880 --> 1:27:25.960 So? 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:26.679 Okay? 1:27:26.760 --> 1:27:30.160 So you know how there's that scene in the very 1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:32.960 like the teaser the beginning, where there's like me on 1:27:33.000 --> 1:27:35.320 the table and like people are like spraying champagne. 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:37.759 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:27:37.080 --> 1:27:40.160 So we had been we shot that first. That was 1:27:40.320 --> 1:27:44.360 my first day and it was it was a night shoot, 1:27:44.360 --> 1:27:46.200 but we started a little bit earlier and we'd like 1:27:46.240 --> 1:27:49.880 blacked out all the windows whatever. So we had kind 1:27:49.920 --> 1:27:53.599 of run through it a bunch of times, and we 1:27:53.600 --> 1:27:56.120 were getting ready to shoot, so they were like setting 1:27:56.160 --> 1:27:59.400 up the lights and they wanted to do a test 1:27:59.760 --> 1:28:04.519 with the with like the props and the water, but 1:28:04.640 --> 1:28:07.400 like not actually like use any of it. So they 1:28:07.439 --> 1:28:10.160 were kind of trying to like show the guy who 1:28:10.240 --> 1:28:12.599 was with me, the one who was gonna be kind 1:28:12.600 --> 1:28:14.880 of picking me up off of the table, throwing me 1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:17.880 over his shoulder and then walking me out of frame. 1:28:18.600 --> 1:28:21.840 They gave him kind of the idea of like what 1:28:21.920 --> 1:28:23.640 was going to happen, and we went through. 1:28:23.600 --> 1:28:25.959 Our lines, which my lines were like ah. 1:28:28.720 --> 1:28:30.200 Like in a created. 1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:33.479 And he was really nice, and we wanted to he 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:35.880 wanted to practice the sleeperhole, or not the sleeperhole, but 1:28:36.240 --> 1:28:38.960 putting me over his shoulder. So he throws me over 1:28:39.000 --> 1:28:42.639 his shoulder and everything's cool and we walk out of frame. 1:28:42.960 --> 1:28:50.519 Now they neglected to tell him or myself that that 1:28:50.600 --> 1:28:53.519 there was going to be a hose. I mean, like, 1:28:53.640 --> 1:28:55.240 of course there's going to be a hose, but like 1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:57.160 we didn't practice it with the hose because we didn't 1:28:57.160 --> 1:29:00.400 want to get our costumes wet obviously, so everyone's like, okay, 1:29:00.400 --> 1:29:02.120 we'll just kind of figure out what the marks are 1:29:02.120 --> 1:29:06.040 gonna be and then we'll walk around it. So either 1:29:07.160 --> 1:29:11.640 either he just wasn't like paying attention to where he 1:29:11.720 --> 1:29:12.719 was stepping or whatever. 1:29:12.800 --> 1:29:16.640 But we start shooting. Everyone's like spraying me with stuff. 1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:20.000 And there's like a hose with water that's coming down 1:29:20.120 --> 1:29:22.440 and it's you know, I'm wet. 1:29:22.160 --> 1:29:22.840 And I'm wearing this. 1:29:22.920 --> 1:29:25.439 I had like brown hair color in because they wanted 1:29:25.479 --> 1:29:28.120 me to have brown hair, and they cast me and 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:31.080 they were like, they never asked me to dye my hair. 1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:32.600 So I showed up on set and I was like 1:29:32.960 --> 1:29:35.080 blonde and they were like, oh shit. 1:29:35.200 --> 1:29:38.240 So they had to go to like, I don't know, 1:29:38.320 --> 1:29:41.639 some somewhere you get like hair stuff, and it was like. 1:29:41.600 --> 1:29:42.840 They just give you a wig. 1:29:43.640 --> 1:29:50.759 I don't know, you know, good question, very good question. 1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:52.559 But they put this. 1:29:52.439 --> 1:29:55.240 Like moose stuff in my hair that made my hair 1:29:55.439 --> 1:29:58.200 a dark brown color. So the second it gets wet, 1:29:58.240 --> 1:30:01.000 it's like dripping all over me and just like everything's 1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:04.200 in my eyes, can't see anything. Everything's just like Okay, 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:07.240 I'm putting all of my trust in this guy, and 1:30:07.320 --> 1:30:09.280 it's gonna be easy. Like it's gonna be an easy night. 1:30:09.360 --> 1:30:11.519 It's not a really long scene. I'm just gonna get 1:30:11.560 --> 1:30:12.040 a little wet. 1:30:12.080 --> 1:30:12.759 It'll be fine. 1:30:12.920 --> 1:30:17.000 Like it's cool. So the guy comes over. 1:30:16.920 --> 1:30:21.519 To the table, the pool table, which I'm on, and 1:30:21.840 --> 1:30:24.880 we do we do the hold. He throws me over 1:30:26.200 --> 1:30:29.880 and he starts to walk out of frame and he 1:30:30.000 --> 1:30:35.960 trips on the hooks and as he is like, he's 1:30:36.080 --> 1:30:38.160 he's trying to not drop me. He's like trying to 1:30:38.240 --> 1:30:41.360 keep his balance but also not drop me. So okay, 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:43.519 like let me see if I can kind of okay. 1:30:44.080 --> 1:30:47.760 So here's here's like the table, here's me, here's the guy. 1:30:47.880 --> 1:30:50.679 He's like, oh no, and I'm like on his back, 1:30:51.240 --> 1:30:51.920 just being like. 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:54.880 I feel like my equilibrium is kind of hot. So 1:30:54.960 --> 1:30:57.120 he's like try to keep his balance, trying to keep 1:30:57.160 --> 1:31:00.280 his balance. Here's a brick wall. 1:31:00.720 --> 1:31:04.519 As he's trying to keep his balance, he actually throws 1:31:04.640 --> 1:31:10.880 me into the brick wall like back because I'm I'm 1:31:10.960 --> 1:31:14.960 over his shoulders, which would not have been that bad, 1:31:15.880 --> 1:31:20.800 but there was a like a light socket protruding off 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:24.639 of the wall, and that's what my back hit. Oh no, 1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:33.080 and I heard something crap and they yelled cut and everyone, and. 1:31:33.000 --> 1:31:35.920 I was like on the ground and everyone was like, girl, 1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:37.639 I call it ambulance call. 1:31:40.080 --> 1:31:43.599 And shit, yeah, I'm I mean I was a competitive 1:31:43.600 --> 1:31:44.439 gymnast as a kid, so. 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:46.080 I'm like, I'm tough. I could do this. 1:31:46.560 --> 1:31:50.240 Yeah, but I was I was hurting. I was hurting, 1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:53.200 and they were not interested in trying it again because 1:31:53.920 --> 1:31:54.880 they didn't want to do that. 1:31:54.920 --> 1:31:56.559 Everyone was like, sign this, sign this. 1:31:57.160 --> 1:31:59.679 I was with my agent at the time, my manager, 1:32:00.360 --> 1:32:08.120 and and they basically had to send me to the hospital. 1:32:08.160 --> 1:32:10.800 I didn't go that night, but they made me go 1:32:10.920 --> 1:32:15.799 the next day. I was like, I'm fine. I'm not fine. 1:32:15.840 --> 1:32:17.080 I couldn't like lift anything. 1:32:17.080 --> 1:32:19.519 It was just like did you have like how long 1:32:19.520 --> 1:32:22.520 did it hurt? How was it filming the rest of it? 1:32:22.280 --> 1:32:24.880 It hurt for like a good week. It hurt for 1:32:24.920 --> 1:32:25.400 a good week. 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:28.080 So like, is the scene that we saw, like that 1:32:28.200 --> 1:32:31.200 one take before you got your back like fucked up. 1:32:31.160 --> 1:32:32.360 Or in the teaserts. 1:32:32.360 --> 1:32:33.000 So that's it. 1:32:33.120 --> 1:32:35.519 Yeah, that's it. That was it cut. 1:32:37.640 --> 1:32:38.880 We're not going back to it. 1:32:39.240 --> 1:32:42.600 And then and they felt really bad. So when I 1:32:42.680 --> 1:32:45.000 came back, they gave me Bead Wong's dressing. 1:32:44.760 --> 1:32:50.320 Room, which like they're like please don't sue us, Please 1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:50.960 don't sue us. 1:32:51.520 --> 1:32:53.559 Yeah, I mean I got I got that sense. 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:55.960 I got that sense, and I guess something had happened 1:32:56.080 --> 1:32:58.160 like weeks prior that was like kind of a big 1:32:58.200 --> 1:33:00.479 deal in terms of that kind of stuff, which I 1:33:00.479 --> 1:33:02.960 didn't realize after the fact, so I could tell like 1:33:03.200 --> 1:33:08.720 everyone was had their senses heightened about that kind of situation. 1:33:08.960 --> 1:33:13.400 But but yeah, because then your next scene with Maloney, 1:33:13.400 --> 1:33:15.120 you're kind of running and falling too. 1:33:15.520 --> 1:33:17.479 Yeah, I know, I know. So I had to do 1:33:17.520 --> 1:33:19.400 that with an injury, and. 1:33:19.360 --> 1:33:21.479 Then you have to like wrestle that jacket off and 1:33:21.520 --> 1:33:23.680 it feels like you're like, oh, this monkey suit, but 1:33:23.760 --> 1:33:25.760 like maybe it's because you're really like get this off 1:33:25.800 --> 1:33:26.040 from me. 1:33:26.080 --> 1:33:29.200 I sanjur It was, no, he was. 1:33:29.400 --> 1:33:31.600 He was funny when we when we got because I 1:33:31.640 --> 1:33:35.320 didn't meet him until we actually got to set, and 1:33:35.360 --> 1:33:37.840 he was like, I heard you got your ass kicked 1:33:37.920 --> 1:33:43.120 last week, and I was like yeah, yeah, and of course, 1:33:43.160 --> 1:33:46.800 you know, like I was nervous, but like you know, 1:33:46.960 --> 1:33:49.160 we started talking about what hot American summer and I 1:33:49.280 --> 1:33:51.200 was just like, you should come out with your with 1:33:51.240 --> 1:33:55.479 a line of cologne called food to Maloney. And it 1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:59.960 could be like served in like a soup can, which 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:01.120 he thought it was really funny. 1:34:01.760 --> 1:34:02.920 I was just trying to make him laugh. 1:34:03.000 --> 1:34:05.160 I love it. That's so funny. 1:34:05.520 --> 1:34:09.160 So like so like in Haunted you're this metho addict, 1:34:09.240 --> 1:34:13.280 and in This you're like a biker girlfriend. In in 1:34:13.000 --> 1:34:17.360 or in Orange, you're also like this methy kind of racist, 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:19.560 and then in American Dream and Sanctuary you're kind of 1:34:19.600 --> 1:34:19.840 like a. 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:22.240 Well, how do you get typecast? 1:34:22.439 --> 1:34:24.479 Is like this because you look like a really normal 1:34:24.520 --> 1:34:27.080 person thing, but you keep playing racists. 1:34:28.479 --> 1:34:35.400 I think studios and uh, people who run shows have 1:34:35.520 --> 1:34:40.679 an idea of what audience members think of as what 1:34:40.800 --> 1:34:45.519 a racist looks like or what a meth addict looks 1:34:45.640 --> 1:34:51.360 like as far as the meth and and like you know, stereotypes, 1:34:51.360 --> 1:34:53.639 but like some of it's not wrong as far as 1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:57.639 the myth goes. Like the second you paint my teeth 1:34:57.760 --> 1:35:03.800 like it's it's I'm on there, you put the brown 1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:05.799 stuff on my teeth, and I'm just like. 1:35:06.360 --> 1:35:10.439 You know, it's just it's. 1:35:09.600 --> 1:35:13.400 Not it's not that difficult to see me as like 1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:15.320 take all the makeup off my face and put brown 1:35:15.360 --> 1:35:18.439 stuff on my teeth and I will look like a methatic. 1:35:18.560 --> 1:35:21.680 That is, I think that's just genetic. 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:23.799 Funny. 1:35:23.840 --> 1:35:28.479 On that show too, you got you and your friend Angie, 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:32.439 I feel were a little bit of a comedic racist 1:35:32.600 --> 1:35:33.160 method duo. 1:35:33.320 --> 1:35:36.120 But yeah, we didn't realize how racist we were going 1:35:36.200 --> 1:35:39.080 to be until like later on, and they made it's 1:35:39.120 --> 1:35:42.080 like really racist, and we were like, there's not we 1:35:42.120 --> 1:35:45.760 can't really come back from this, but like you know, 1:35:45.840 --> 1:35:48.639 there's no way we can kind of redeem ourselves. All 1:35:48.680 --> 1:35:51.200 we can do is just like amp up the comedy 1:35:51.320 --> 1:35:52.839 and make them like funny. 1:35:53.360 --> 1:35:56.439 Right, you killed it? Oh my god, Yeah, thank you. 1:35:57.920 --> 1:36:00.479 Because I remember you guys being like frickin' frack a 1:36:00.479 --> 1:36:03.439 little bit, even though, like you know, the undercurrent of crime. 1:36:03.640 --> 1:36:05.040 But yeah, and then the third time I got to 1:36:05.040 --> 1:36:06.320 be on SVU, I got to work with. 1:36:06.320 --> 1:36:10.520 Murushka, so amazing, my fingerguns, I'm Kelly. 1:36:11.800 --> 1:36:13.680 And Pok and Scannfino. 1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:16.720 So did you any stories with the three of them? 1:36:16.960 --> 1:36:18.880 Are just excitement since you're a fan of the show. 1:36:19.320 --> 1:36:24.000 I mean, Marishka and I became really friendly after that, 1:36:24.080 --> 1:36:27.080 and she like invited me to a handful of things, 1:36:27.120 --> 1:36:30.680 and she introduced me to Harry Connick, Junior, which was 1:36:30.760 --> 1:36:34.720 like one of the coolest thing ever. I'm such a 1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:38.320 hardcore Harry Conic Junior fan and like I love Hope Floats, 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:40.559 So I'm just I'm that bitch. 1:36:40.760 --> 1:36:42.919 I love that movie and I love him. 1:36:43.040 --> 1:36:47.080 And and she was like, She's like, this is my friend, Emma, 1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:48.080 She's dope. 1:36:48.240 --> 1:36:52.080 And I was like, I was like, oh my god, 1:36:52.240 --> 1:36:55.799 mah just called me dope in front of Harry Conic Junior. 1:36:56.040 --> 1:36:57.599 Whoa wow. 1:36:57.800 --> 1:36:59.479 I'm like, and this is you know, I'm like, I'm 1:36:59.479 --> 1:37:02.240 such a fan. I'm like almost forty years old, just like. 1:37:04.720 --> 1:37:05.280 An idiot. 1:37:05.320 --> 1:37:07.719 Yeah, I'm a married woman, and I'm just like melting 1:37:07.800 --> 1:37:08.760 into a punnel. 1:37:11.160 --> 1:37:11.400 I know. 1:37:11.479 --> 1:37:13.519 I feel if we ever get to have Maurushika on 1:37:13.520 --> 1:37:15.560 this podcast, like my first question is how do you 1:37:15.600 --> 1:37:17.680 deal with everyone being obsessed and in love in an 1:37:17.680 --> 1:37:18.719 awe of you at all times? 1:37:18.760 --> 1:37:20.360 Like, yeah, how do you function? 1:37:20.600 --> 1:37:24.680 Because everyone we talked to Gusha's about her in this 1:37:24.760 --> 1:37:27.360 way where it's like she's truly an angel from you know, 1:37:27.479 --> 1:37:28.599 how did that drop down? 1:37:29.000 --> 1:37:30.960 I did? I called her a unicorn. I called her 1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:32.240 a unicorn. 1:37:33.479 --> 1:37:35.240 In like a post and she texted me and she 1:37:35.320 --> 1:37:37.479 was like, I don't really understand the unicorn thing, but 1:37:37.520 --> 1:37:39.599 like I love it. And then she texted me back 1:37:39.640 --> 1:37:41.160 like a few days later, she was like I get it. 1:37:41.200 --> 1:37:43.120 I get it. I understand how I understand. 1:37:43.360 --> 1:37:46.879 And I was like, it's like you're this majestic creature 1:37:47.280 --> 1:37:49.920 that no one knows where you came from or like 1:37:50.080 --> 1:37:52.439 how long you're gonna be here, but we just worship 1:37:52.520 --> 1:37:53.559 you in your mag. 1:37:55.280 --> 1:37:59.639 And she's such like calm down, but no, she's like 1:37:59.720 --> 1:38:00.719 she's It's. 1:38:00.600 --> 1:38:04.120 Like there's like people that obviously people love Jennifer Aniston, 1:38:04.240 --> 1:38:07.599 people love you know, whoever. They love a lot of people, 1:38:07.680 --> 1:38:10.000 but like the way people talk about her, it's like 1:38:10.040 --> 1:38:14.040 another level. They're like she's so professional but also warm 1:38:14.320 --> 1:38:16.840 and like helps you get where you need to go 1:38:16.920 --> 1:38:19.559 in the scene, and then off camera invite like sends 1:38:19.640 --> 1:38:23.040 me Christmas cards, introduces me as dope. Like you just 1:38:23.120 --> 1:38:26.000 hear like all these stories, like everybody has this story 1:38:26.040 --> 1:38:28.600 about her being like just a great person, and I 1:38:28.680 --> 1:38:31.839 just feel like you never hear that that much about 1:38:32.280 --> 1:38:33.120 anybody else. 1:38:33.560 --> 1:38:37.160 Yeah, I know, I mean I think for for for 1:38:37.360 --> 1:38:42.599 like what like who she is as like a status symbol. 1:38:43.040 --> 1:38:47.280 It's like shocking that she's as approachable as she is. 1:38:47.800 --> 1:38:54.839 But she she's just like a really lovely, wonderful, caring person, 1:38:55.520 --> 1:38:58.120 and she cares about the work that she does. It's 1:38:58.360 --> 1:39:02.479 very meaningful to her. Cares about every single person. Behind 1:39:02.520 --> 1:39:05.880 the scenes. She's always like if someone has something going on, 1:39:06.040 --> 1:39:08.400 like she's always making sure that everyone is taking care 1:39:08.439 --> 1:39:10.800 of no matter what. If it's raining, and like someone 1:39:10.840 --> 1:39:13.560 doesn't have an umbrella, She's making sure that people have umbrellas, 1:39:13.600 --> 1:39:14.080 like she. 1:39:14.960 --> 1:39:15.960 Is the Mama Bear. 1:39:16.439 --> 1:39:17.479 Yeah, it's just. 1:39:18.080 --> 1:39:22.960 I'm grateful every second I got to spend in her presence. 1:39:24.240 --> 1:39:25.240 That's so cool. 1:39:26.040 --> 1:39:28.000 What what are you up to these days? I was 1:39:28.040 --> 1:39:30.639 looking at your Instagram. You have this like kitchen series, 1:39:30.760 --> 1:39:32.600 like the Triggered Kitchen Series. I don't know if you 1:39:32.640 --> 1:39:34.120 want to tell us a little bit about that or 1:39:34.120 --> 1:39:35.519 like other projects you have going on. 1:39:35.800 --> 1:39:39.439 Yeah, I mean that's I'm I'm in the process of 1:39:39.880 --> 1:39:41.560 writing a book. 1:39:43.280 --> 1:39:46.320 That's kind of based in my trigger my kitchen series. 1:39:46.400 --> 1:39:50.080 My whole backstory is that, like I've dealt with disordered 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:56.080 eating for my whole wife and and I had been 1:39:56.120 --> 1:39:58.280 in recovery when I was like a teenager and I 1:39:58.280 --> 1:40:00.719 thought it was gone. I was like, Okay, cool, cool cool, 1:40:00.720 --> 1:40:04.760 And then like life kind of happens, and during like 1:40:04.920 --> 1:40:08.160 right before the pandemic, it kind of started to like 1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:12.280 eke back in for X, Y and Z reasons. And 1:40:12.320 --> 1:40:15.280 then when the pandemic happened, it was just like an 1:40:15.320 --> 1:40:20.200 insane relapse and I almost didn't make it out of it. 1:40:20.760 --> 1:40:26.200 And so I started kind of trying to examine, like 1:40:26.800 --> 1:40:31.519 why where this dysfunction comes from? Like why is why 1:40:31.520 --> 1:40:33.519 do I continue to do this? Like why is this 1:40:33.600 --> 1:40:37.519 something that like people just don't recover from. And I'm like, 1:40:37.640 --> 1:40:40.320 I refuse to believe that. I refuse to believe that. 1:40:40.360 --> 1:40:45.719 I refuse, I refuse to have that as my life. 1:40:45.840 --> 1:40:49.360 And so as a way of trying to like take care, 1:40:49.640 --> 1:40:53.719 like take take back control of what I was essentially 1:40:53.760 --> 1:40:57.680 putting myself through instead of it being like controlled by 1:40:57.880 --> 1:41:03.120 restrictive and self destructive behavior, I started to cook. And 1:41:03.520 --> 1:41:07.720 I started to cook, and I started to learn that 1:41:07.840 --> 1:41:11.280 like part of the reason why my relationship with food 1:41:11.280 --> 1:41:14.080 and my relationship with my body was so dysfunctional was 1:41:14.120 --> 1:41:18.000 because I was completely disconnected from what I was putting 1:41:18.000 --> 1:41:19.960 into my body. It's like you go to the deli 1:41:20.000 --> 1:41:22.639 at three am, It's like you're not you're not doing 1:41:22.680 --> 1:41:25.600 anything for yourself. You're not involved in that process. You 1:41:25.600 --> 1:41:28.280 don't know where that stuff comes from. So you just 1:41:28.400 --> 1:41:30.280 like take a bite and it's like easy to keep 1:41:30.280 --> 1:41:32.920 that sandwich as like a stranger as opposed to like 1:41:33.200 --> 1:41:38.080 this thing that is like good and happy and and 1:41:38.560 --> 1:41:42.280 helps you kind of like understand why you operate the 1:41:42.280 --> 1:41:46.120 way that you do. So yeah, my, my, of course, 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:50.559 that's that's a little more like more drama than the 1:41:50.600 --> 1:41:54.439 comedy of my of my real series. 1:41:55.080 --> 1:41:57.160 But but yeah, I just started. 1:41:58.240 --> 1:42:01.560 I just started like shooting them, and I have two phones, 1:42:01.800 --> 1:42:03.960 so I would do a setup where I would have 1:42:04.000 --> 1:42:05.720 like one be a close up and one be like an. 1:42:05.720 --> 1:42:08.680 Overhead, and I just like taught myself how to. 1:42:09.120 --> 1:42:13.439 Edit damn and and then you know the captions, the 1:42:13.640 --> 1:42:17.960 like stupid punny captions like calling Shallots Timothy shallat May 1:42:18.120 --> 1:42:22.080 and calling Garlic Bob Garley. Like that's that's the stuff 1:42:22.080 --> 1:42:27.679 that people tend to really, they're like, yeah, so it's 1:42:27.760 --> 1:42:32.400 just it's fun, it's fun, and it's it's it's helpful 1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:35.960 to people. I started, Yeah, I started with the idea 1:42:35.960 --> 1:42:40.240 of like today, I was triggered by hard pants, but 1:42:40.400 --> 1:42:42.880 instead of self punishing. I decided to make a ra 1:42:43.040 --> 1:42:47.360 bus and then I go into so it's like my 1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:50.240 way of funneling, Like how my triggers used to kind 1:42:50.240 --> 1:42:56.479 of fuel this self destructive behavior, I'm funneling that into 1:42:56.520 --> 1:43:00.639 something that's like more productive for me as h in person. 1:43:01.280 --> 1:43:03.640 That's so great, And I'm sure you're actually helping a 1:43:03.680 --> 1:43:07.479 lot of people who have similar situations, you know. 1:43:07.600 --> 1:43:08.559 Yeah, I hope so well. 1:43:08.600 --> 1:43:11.559 I loved your bride spread. I'm really into weddings. I 1:43:11.560 --> 1:43:13.519 did find it. I did read all of it. I 1:43:13.560 --> 1:43:17.439 did look at every picture. I loved the Hooters. I 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:22.080 loved the concept. I liked the like floral with the city. 1:43:22.120 --> 1:43:24.840 That's kind of my dream because I love flowers and green. 1:43:24.920 --> 1:43:27.120 But like New York City skyline to me, is the 1:43:27.120 --> 1:43:27.920 most beautiful thing. 1:43:28.160 --> 1:43:29.559 It is it is. 1:43:29.680 --> 1:43:32.360 I don't know, I really don't know how we got 1:43:32.600 --> 1:43:34.440 so lucky first with Hooters. 1:43:36.720 --> 1:43:43.120 Wait, I'm like, I'm going, I mean, like the long 1:43:43.160 --> 1:43:45.479 story short, like so, I'm I used to go to 1:43:45.520 --> 1:43:48.640 a lot of Liberty games, New York Liberty when they 1:43:48.680 --> 1:43:51.800 used to play at MSG the w NBA, and I 1:43:51.840 --> 1:43:54.240 would go with a handful of my friends. 1:43:54.280 --> 1:43:58.479 One of them Seleene c Robinson, being a writer and producer, 1:43:59.240 --> 1:44:01.360 passed on I'm on SVU. 1:44:01.479 --> 1:44:03.320 That's how I met her. I met her through Marishka, 1:44:04.360 --> 1:44:05.599 so she's she's. 1:44:05.479 --> 1:44:08.280 A really really good friend of mine and her now 1:44:08.439 --> 1:44:10.960 wife is also a really good friend of mine. 1:44:11.600 --> 1:44:14.080 And we would all go. 1:44:14.000 --> 1:44:17.280 To Hooters afterwards after the games because it was like, 1:44:17.479 --> 1:44:20.879 you know, right down the street, and Leo was, actually, 1:44:20.920 --> 1:44:22.720 she'll be pissed if I don't mention this. Leo was 1:44:22.760 --> 1:44:26.400 the person who introduced me to Hooters, but we also 1:44:27.040 --> 1:44:28.360 started to go without her. 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:30.160 When she wouldn't come to WNBA games. 1:44:30.240 --> 1:44:33.679 So we started this thing called Dream Chicken Team, which 1:44:33.760 --> 1:44:36.439 was like five of us, and we would be like. 1:44:36.439 --> 1:44:38.280 Are we doing Dream Chicken Team after the game? 1:44:38.479 --> 1:44:39.559 Like cool whoo. 1:44:40.120 --> 1:44:43.240 And then when I when I was setting everything up 1:44:43.280 --> 1:44:47.680 for the wedding, I as someone had mentioned, they were like, 1:44:47.760 --> 1:44:49.360 oh my god, you know it would be funny, like 1:44:49.400 --> 1:44:52.120 you should totally have Hooters, and I was like, I 1:44:52.160 --> 1:44:55.120 totally should have Hooters, and so I tweeted them. 1:44:55.560 --> 1:44:57.040 I was like, I was like. 1:44:57.000 --> 1:44:59.879 Hey, you think Hooters would do partial catering for my wedding? 1:45:00.760 --> 1:45:03.600 And within I swear to God, like a minute and 1:45:03.640 --> 1:45:05.559 a half. They were in my inbox. They were like, 1:45:05.640 --> 1:45:08.720 let's do it, and I was like, I was like. 1:45:08.800 --> 1:45:12.280 Oh my god, it's amazing. 1:45:12.400 --> 1:45:14.679 When did you get married? How long ago was this? 1:45:15.200 --> 1:45:21.320 It was August third, twenty nineteen. Okay, so before the pandemic. 1:45:21.400 --> 1:45:22.160 Praise Jesus. 1:45:23.000 --> 1:45:25.400 These pictures are gorgeous. You look so pretty. 1:45:25.479 --> 1:45:28.160 These are really cool And now I'm getting I just 1:45:28.160 --> 1:45:29.360 scrolled to the Hooters girls. 1:45:29.360 --> 1:45:31.519 I got them. This looks great and I. 1:45:31.439 --> 1:45:34.080 Love this group photo where it's all just women with 1:45:34.120 --> 1:45:35.880 the Hooters girls. Oh wait, there's one man in it, 1:45:35.880 --> 1:45:37.479 and I see one man in the back, but like 1:45:37.920 --> 1:45:39.080 everybody else's women. 1:45:39.200 --> 1:45:39.960 This is awesome. 1:45:40.080 --> 1:45:40.920 Yeah, I mean like a lot. 1:45:41.160 --> 1:45:42.880 There were a lot of cast members that were there, 1:45:42.920 --> 1:45:46.760 and it was so just having It was so funny too, 1:45:46.760 --> 1:45:48.439 because they were just like, this is the. 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:51.200 Best wedding we've ever been to, and we were like party. 1:45:51.640 --> 1:45:54.000 So they stayed and they partied with us for like 1:45:54.040 --> 1:45:55.000 the rest of the night. 1:45:55.840 --> 1:45:56.519 So cool. 1:45:56.880 --> 1:45:58.760 Wait, as a fan of SVU, I do have to know, 1:45:58.800 --> 1:46:00.720 are there any episodes we like to say that like 1:46:01.200 --> 1:46:04.280 sticking your head is haunting or just like favorite episodes 1:46:04.280 --> 1:46:06.479 when you hit up USA in a hotel room. 1:46:06.520 --> 1:46:08.400 You're like, oh, I'm glad it's the one. 1:46:08.800 --> 1:46:12.559 I mean, there's there's probably like too many to count, 1:46:13.640 --> 1:46:16.720 but Leah and I have a running joke with the 1:46:16.800 --> 1:46:22.360 episode with one of Elizabeth Mitchell's episodes, but anytime Elizabeth 1:46:22.400 --> 1:46:24.880 Mitchell is anywhere near Svo, I'm just like, yeah, bring 1:46:24.960 --> 1:46:29.800 it by, please, Yeah, but not not the baby and 1:46:29.840 --> 1:46:36.400 the cooler one, the one where she's like been molested by. 1:46:36.280 --> 1:46:40.360 Your mother, Oh, the totem Yes, and. 1:46:40.360 --> 1:46:43.360 Jeremy Irons is the therapist and Lea. Yeah, always like 1:46:43.439 --> 1:46:44.360 taunt each other. 1:46:44.280 --> 1:46:47.439 Because we're always just like and then she took the 1:46:47.479 --> 1:46:55.240 wooden spoon, so anytime we see like a wooden spoon, 1:46:55.400 --> 1:46:57.000 we like take your picture and like send it to 1:46:57.040 --> 1:46:58.960 each other and just go like oh. 1:46:59.160 --> 1:47:01.840 And then obviously like Luscious Grapes is just. 1:47:02.160 --> 1:47:06.360 Oh, yeah, our first episode we ever did on our podcast, Bully. 1:47:07.439 --> 1:47:08.960 Why wouldn't it be? It's best. 1:47:09.240 --> 1:47:12.760 I love that you have these inside jokes and little 1:47:12.800 --> 1:47:15.560 moments that makes me so happy about us for you. 1:47:15.760 --> 1:47:19.919 Yeah, I feel like like SEU fandom is its own language. 1:47:20.160 --> 1:47:25.160 Yeah, the fans are deep and well we're desensitized too, 1:47:25.240 --> 1:47:27.200 because I'll be watching like sex and the City or 1:47:27.200 --> 1:47:29.360 something with a friend and be like, oh, he was 1:47:29.360 --> 1:47:31.880 in this episode where he did this and that happened 1:47:31.880 --> 1:47:36.320 and then this and they're like that's fucking dark, like wire. Yeah, 1:47:36.360 --> 1:47:40.519 they're like shocked at how chill we discussed such gruesome. 1:47:40.880 --> 1:47:41.880 Yeah, we are to say. 1:47:41.920 --> 1:47:45.240 I mean, like I know, I can't I can't decide 1:47:45.240 --> 1:47:47.120 whether it's a good or a bad thing, but it 1:47:47.240 --> 1:47:47.679 is a thing. 1:47:48.640 --> 1:47:51.879 Yeah, it's it gives us comfort. It gives us comfort. 1:47:52.160 --> 1:47:53.280 Yeah, I think it's well. 1:47:53.320 --> 1:47:56.439 I also think it's a way for particularly women to 1:47:56.720 --> 1:48:00.800 like kind of have control over that kind of dialogue 1:48:01.640 --> 1:48:05.120 as opposed to it being like thrown at them in 1:48:05.160 --> 1:48:08.680 a way, yeah, victimizes them. It's like we get to 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:10.680 be like no, we love s FO and like we 1:48:10.760 --> 1:48:11.720 know all about this ship. 1:48:12.600 --> 1:48:14.240 Yeah, totally. 1:48:14.320 --> 1:48:16.639 I think it gives women control in a world where 1:48:16.640 --> 1:48:18.320 they feel there's no control. 1:48:18.600 --> 1:48:23.040 Yeah, And that's why Marishia is such like a pinnacle 1:48:23.479 --> 1:48:26.800 of society because we all we all just see her 1:48:26.920 --> 1:48:29.200 like making making shit good. 1:48:29.360 --> 1:48:32.040 And the fantasy of a cop that actually cares. I 1:48:32.040 --> 1:48:34.720 mean like she goes after purpose. When people are like 1:48:34.760 --> 1:48:37.720 I don't want to press charges, She's like I still do. 1:48:38.800 --> 1:48:43.519 You're like, the cops would never do this. But okay, Emma, 1:48:43.640 --> 1:48:45.719 this was so fun. Thank you so much for taking 1:48:45.720 --> 1:48:46.240 the time. 1:48:46.080 --> 1:48:49.519 To talk to us, Big, You're so cool. 1:48:53.479 --> 1:48:56.920 Obsessed with em I feel like the Oranges and New 1:48:56.920 --> 1:48:59.200 Black Girls are like Pokemon for us, Like I want 1:48:59.200 --> 1:48:59.519 to catch it. 1:48:59.640 --> 1:49:01.760 I know, we gotta catch them all. I love them, 1:49:01.800 --> 1:49:04.680 They're all like I love when USA does. Orange is 1:49:04.720 --> 1:49:07.800 the New Black SVU is the New Black Marathon or 1:49:07.800 --> 1:49:11.200 whatever they fucking do. But so many of these talented 1:49:11.240 --> 1:49:13.160 ladies have been on both shows and it's so fun 1:49:13.280 --> 1:49:16.000 and yeah, this was great. It was great chatting with 1:49:16.040 --> 1:49:19.960 her and loved hearing about her Hooter's wedding. And check 1:49:19.960 --> 1:49:22.120 out her cooking videos. I've actually been seeing a bunch 1:49:22.160 --> 1:49:23.720 of them now because we follow each other and like, 1:49:24.439 --> 1:49:27.000 it's kind of like a fun if you want, like 1:49:27.120 --> 1:49:29.360 a more entertaining cooking like than just. 1:49:29.360 --> 1:49:35.200 Reading a recipe follow along. But what about this episode. 1:49:34.600 --> 1:49:39.000 Perverted a truly wild like this episode. I think it's 1:49:39.000 --> 1:49:41.880 truly so funny that there have been multiple episodes where 1:49:41.880 --> 1:49:44.439 men that Olivia Benson has put in jail have launched 1:49:44.560 --> 1:49:49.439 like like serial killer esque plots to get her back 1:49:49.560 --> 1:49:52.640 or frame her or like send her a message. Like 1:49:52.960 --> 1:49:55.760 she really gets on these guys, fucking under their skin. 1:49:55.800 --> 1:49:57.840 And it's really funny to me that the show keeps 1:49:57.840 --> 1:50:00.479 doing this. But yeah, we. 1:50:00.479 --> 1:50:03.320 Definitely confused the two episodes. It's like the guy from 1:50:03.320 --> 1:50:06.479 Weeds and then this one, and they're both. Yeah, just 1:50:06.560 --> 1:50:10.040 like revenge tales of people getting you know, hurt. 1:50:10.120 --> 1:50:12.040 If we just did it at a live show. What 1:50:12.160 --> 1:50:13.200 is it fucking called? 1:50:13.920 --> 1:50:16.840 I can't remember, but this I mean, but I liked 1:50:16.920 --> 1:50:17.920 the biker vibe. 1:50:18.240 --> 1:50:20.880 I like that the comedy in this episode was great. 1:50:20.960 --> 1:50:23.200 I feel like she really had a spark, was stabler, 1:50:23.240 --> 1:50:24.240 and it was nice to hear that. 1:50:24.520 --> 1:50:25.960 Yeah, they did have that spark. 1:50:26.240 --> 1:50:28.679 I think what we're learning is science is bad, don't 1:50:28.680 --> 1:50:31.960 go to school, don't twist DNA. 1:50:32.640 --> 1:50:35.719 Science is great until it goes too far like now. 1:50:35.920 --> 1:50:37.720 But I will say, like I said, I think I 1:50:37.720 --> 1:50:39.320 said this at the end of my thing, but like 1:50:39.520 --> 1:50:41.400 I relooked up that company. 1:50:41.080 --> 1:50:43.320 Again recently, and like they're not doing that anymore. 1:50:43.360 --> 1:50:45.639 So maybe there just like wasn't enough of a market 1:50:45.680 --> 1:50:49.160 for people trying to you know, frame people, so they 1:50:49.200 --> 1:50:51.599 stopped doing it, or maybe they couldn't get they were 1:50:51.600 --> 1:50:53.680 in Israel and the United States, but I'm sure the 1:50:53.800 --> 1:50:55.439 US would be like, you can't do this. 1:50:55.479 --> 1:50:55.759 Stop. 1:50:55.960 --> 1:50:58.920 Yeah, it's like black market stuff, you know what I mean? 1:50:59.000 --> 1:51:02.679 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe my imagine a black market 1:51:02.760 --> 1:51:06.040 like kit that's like how to frame uh well, it's 1:51:06.080 --> 1:51:09.120 like in Breaking Bad where that giant like German company, 1:51:09.200 --> 1:51:11.960 the guy was actually like a big metha dealer, you know. 1:51:12.479 --> 1:51:16.360 Yeah, do you remember that part? No, such a good show. 1:51:16.880 --> 1:51:19.720 I love that as good as Euphoria, but pretty good. Now, 1:51:19.800 --> 1:51:24.800 I'm it's totally different, totally different. Also, we rape isn't 1:51:24.800 --> 1:51:28.120 funny in prison, and stop threatening men and people with 1:51:28.240 --> 1:51:28.920 rape in prison. 1:51:29.040 --> 1:51:32.360 It's like not fodder for fear. It's And I. 1:51:32.360 --> 1:51:34.720 Realized that the show stopped doing that as well, because 1:51:34.760 --> 1:51:36.920 they used to do that like every episode, like they're 1:51:36.960 --> 1:51:39.640 gonna love you in County lock up or whatever, you know, 1:51:39.760 --> 1:51:41.920 like they would always make little comments about that, and 1:51:42.000 --> 1:51:45.360 I feel like they've stopped that, which is thank god. 1:51:46.320 --> 1:51:50.720 But yeah, we've we've we've pointed out before other organization 1:51:51.240 --> 1:51:55.240 organizations that are working to stop end prison rape. 1:51:55.320 --> 1:51:58.600 So but this week, should we just go into what 1:51:58.600 --> 1:51:59.400 would Sister Peg do? 1:51:59.640 --> 1:52:01.880 Yes, I did want to say another thing, I learned 1:52:01.920 --> 1:52:05.240 that biker gangs are mostly just leather drag, and I'm 1:52:05.240 --> 1:52:08.240 not gonna see it. It's so embarrassing. I don't understand. 1:52:08.479 --> 1:52:13.040 Like drags actually not embarrassing, but like tough armor, it's 1:52:13.120 --> 1:52:15.759 just like so goofy. I just wish these gangs would 1:52:15.840 --> 1:52:17.000 realize how funny they are. 1:52:17.120 --> 1:52:19.800 Maybe they should get feeder the this. 1:52:20.280 --> 1:52:22.439 I hate to once again bring up sons of anarchy, 1:52:22.439 --> 1:52:24.320 but when you look at sons of anarchy, it's like 1:52:24.680 --> 1:52:27.439 it's the same reason guys join fraternities, it's the same 1:52:27.479 --> 1:52:30.599 reason guys join gangs. Like it's the same vibe. It's 1:52:30.640 --> 1:52:34.479 like we're protecting our community. We are a band of 1:52:34.600 --> 1:52:37.519 loyal to each other people. We also like deal meth 1:52:37.600 --> 1:52:39.799 and like you know, kind of true women as objects. 1:52:39.840 --> 1:52:43.160 But like that's what that's what the that's what's in 1:52:43.200 --> 1:52:45.320 it for them, you know, Like it makes them feel 1:52:45.360 --> 1:52:49.479 fucking tough, hot, supported, you know, and that they they 1:52:49.479 --> 1:52:55.640 honestly get to live like fucking like criminal like playboys. 1:52:55.680 --> 1:52:57.679 Like they have a clubhouse where they just like fuck girls. 1:52:57.680 --> 1:52:59.679 They're all married, but they fuck girls on the side. 1:52:59.760 --> 1:53:00.880 Like it's nuts. 1:53:01.520 --> 1:53:03.200 I would love it if we had somebody that listens 1:53:03.200 --> 1:53:06.160 to our podcast, it's like I'm actually in an outlagging 1:53:06.439 --> 1:53:07.679 and that's there about. 1:53:08.439 --> 1:53:10.599 But I don't think we're gonna have that happen. 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:15.320 But I wanted to move on to to what would 1:53:15.320 --> 1:53:18.160 Sister Peg Do? And listen, guys, it's hard for me 1:53:18.200 --> 1:53:21.040 to always find an organization that fits in perfectly with 1:53:21.080 --> 1:53:23.679 what we talked about today. As I said, we had 1:53:24.840 --> 1:53:27.519 an organization a few weeks ago that I could call 1:53:27.600 --> 1:53:31.040 out again, which is called Just Attention dot org about 1:53:31.080 --> 1:53:32.880 like you know, prison rape. So we can call that 1:53:32.960 --> 1:53:35.880 out again this week for what would Sister Peg Do, which, 1:53:35.960 --> 1:53:38.800 as we all know, is our weekly segment where we 1:53:38.840 --> 1:53:43.000 direct you guys to an organization, a blog post, an article, 1:53:43.040 --> 1:53:44.840 a book, something that gives you more info about what 1:53:44.840 --> 1:53:47.519 we talked about today. This one's a little bit off topic, 1:53:47.600 --> 1:53:49.920 but because Christmas is coming up, I want to direct 1:53:49.920 --> 1:53:53.040 you guys to this organization called One Simple Wish. Of 1:53:53.080 --> 1:53:57.320 the organization's website is www dot one Simplewish dot org, 1:53:57.600 --> 1:54:01.920 and that is an organization that helps gifts, sends gifts 1:54:01.920 --> 1:54:04.720 and scholarship funds to children in the foster care system. 1:54:05.360 --> 1:54:09.040 On their website, it says definitely doing this. Yeah, you can. 1:54:08.960 --> 1:54:11.320 Go on and it'll literally just say what one kid 1:54:11.360 --> 1:54:13.920 specifically wants. You can give a more general gift, or 1:54:13.960 --> 1:54:16.599 you can just fulfill what one kid specifically wants. 1:54:16.680 --> 1:54:18.280 I'm doing it. I'm doing it this here. 1:54:18.439 --> 1:54:20.840 I love this so because it's like I was trying 1:54:20.840 --> 1:54:23.479 to look up sort of like you know, sponsor of 1:54:23.520 --> 1:54:26.040 family programs and stuff like that, but a lot of 1:54:26.040 --> 1:54:28.360 that is local to your area. I would definitely say 1:54:28.400 --> 1:54:30.479 go out and try to find those. But this is 1:54:30.560 --> 1:54:33.960 like a company, an organization that works nationwide, So any 1:54:34.000 --> 1:54:37.640 of you guys can go to their website and do 1:54:37.760 --> 1:54:40.000 it as easy or complicated as you want. You could 1:54:40.000 --> 1:54:42.040 fulfill a bunch of wishes up to what you could afford. 1:54:42.080 --> 1:54:45.839 You could just give general money to them. And so yeah, 1:54:46.040 --> 1:54:48.520 there's so many. There's like half a million kids impacted 1:54:48.560 --> 1:54:51.040 by abuse, neglect, trauma and spend time in our nation's 1:54:51.080 --> 1:54:54.280 foster care system. According to their website, and through this 1:54:54.600 --> 1:54:56.880 wish granting platform, you can send love to a kid 1:54:56.880 --> 1:54:59.200 who needs it. And you guys know, obviously, with my 1:54:59.280 --> 1:55:02.040 work in KASA, I try to support the foster care 1:55:02.120 --> 1:55:03.760 system as much as possible because I feel like they 1:55:03.800 --> 1:55:05.760 need a lot of help and this is a great 1:55:05.800 --> 1:55:08.160 way to spread some holiday joy. So that will be 1:55:08.240 --> 1:55:12.760 obviously in our show notes on our WWSPD highlight on 1:55:12.800 --> 1:55:16.400 our Instagram stories, so check that out for a little 1:55:16.440 --> 1:55:17.160 Christmas cheer. 1:55:17.640 --> 1:55:21.240 I will definitely be doing one simple wish one hundred percent. 1:55:22.200 --> 1:55:25.440 And next week please join us for another unhinged wild 1:55:25.480 --> 1:55:30.600 episode of SVU Zebras Season ten, episode twenty two. We're 1:55:30.640 --> 1:55:43.960 obsessed with all of you. See you soon, Thie. 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