WEBVTT - Tech News: Corporations, Crime and Cryptocurrency

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with iHeart Radio and

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<v Speaker 1>I love all things tech. And this is the tech

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<v Speaker 1>news for Thursday, June tenth, two thousand twenty one. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to it first. Some background. In two thousand nine,

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<v Speaker 1>some hackers were able to access databases that were hosting

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<v Speaker 1>a social app called rock You, and they got away

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<v Speaker 1>with more than thirty million user passwords, which was considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot. And those passwords, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in plain text. In other words, they were unencrypted.

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<v Speaker 1>So once the hackers got them, they had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>passwords that were as valid for as long as people

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<v Speaker 1>you know failed to change them. Well, now, where it

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<v Speaker 1>is out that a data breach could mean anywhere from

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<v Speaker 1>eight point four billion to potentially as many as eighty

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<v Speaker 1>two billion passwords have been leaked billion. Now eight point

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<v Speaker 1>four billion unique users or unique logins were identified of

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<v Speaker 1>this batch, so that's already bad. But multiple passwords belonging

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<v Speaker 1>to the same logan could be in that group. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why the eight two billion is on the upper level.

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<v Speaker 1>So people are calling it rock You twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>in reference to that you know data breach from two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nine. I would like to suggest an alternative, rock

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<v Speaker 1>you like a hurricane. But what's actually going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. Someone, some hacker has posted a

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<v Speaker 1>text file that is one hundred gigabytes in size. That

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<v Speaker 1>is huge for a text file, and they've post did

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<v Speaker 1>it on various hacker forums. This text file contains billions

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<v Speaker 1>of user names and passwords for various sites and services.

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<v Speaker 1>All the passwords are between six and twenty characters long.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no telling how many of those passwords are currently

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<v Speaker 1>valid versus inactive. In fact, I would not be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if a lot of those log ins were for services

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<v Speaker 1>that don't even really exist anymore. But generally speaking, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea to check to see if you were

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<v Speaker 1>potentially affected. One way you can do that is to

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<v Speaker 1>search your email address against tools like have I Been Pooned?

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<v Speaker 1>But another is to use a password vault program because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those will monitor news about data breaches

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<v Speaker 1>and they will proactively reach out to users and prompt

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<v Speaker 1>them to change their passwords at various sites and services.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also by the way, a very good idea to

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<v Speaker 1>activate two factor authentication for those services that allow for that.

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<v Speaker 1>If it allows for it, you should probably do it.

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<v Speaker 1>These sorts of data breaches are the kind that are

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<v Speaker 1>outside of our control as users, so we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have to take steps to protect ourselves. We also have

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<v Speaker 1>to remember every time there's a big data breach like this,

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<v Speaker 1>then those passwords, even if they're not active, even if

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<v Speaker 1>they aren't currently associated with those accounts, they go into

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<v Speaker 1>an ever increasingly huge dictionary of existing passwords. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the type of person who creates a password and

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<v Speaker 1>then over time cycles back to that password, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that you know you alternate between a few uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>means that if you're part of this breach, then even

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<v Speaker 1>a password you're not using right now but could use

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, that could mean that you leave yourself vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, always a good idea to get like a

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<v Speaker 1>password vault program. There's some that will generate very tough

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<v Speaker 1>passwords on your behalf and store them for are you

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have to keep track of all that. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a little bit more of a hassle, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously more than a hassle than just using the single

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<v Speaker 1>password for everything. But obviously that is not safe and

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<v Speaker 1>it means that everywhere you go you're potentially vulnerable. So

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<v Speaker 1>I recommend getting a password vault and using it. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of good ones out there, uh so

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<v Speaker 1>I recommend researching those and choose one that fits your needs.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of hackers, the video game developer and publisher

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<v Speaker 1>Electronic Arts or e A, got hacked, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people outside of the A don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a whole lot of sympathy for the company. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's more because there are people with very strong negative

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<v Speaker 1>opinions about e A. I think it is a shame.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it when any company gets hacked. And apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, the hackers were able to access some

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<v Speaker 1>of e a's internal systems and they gained access to

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<v Speaker 1>the source code for certain game as well as access

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<v Speaker 1>to other internal tools. Now, according to e A, no

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<v Speaker 1>user data was compromised as a result of this breach,

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<v Speaker 1>so in theory at least users were not affected by this.

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<v Speaker 1>The company also says it's are A taking steps to

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<v Speaker 1>address the issue by changing things up so that the

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<v Speaker 1>source code that the hackers access would be useless. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, that they wouldn't be able to exploit e

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<v Speaker 1>A titles because e A is going to change those

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<v Speaker 1>titles significantly enough where that source code will be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a moot thing. Now, unless the source code was for

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty minor stuff, I imagine that last bit is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really challenging to pull off. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>as easy as just waving your hand at it. The

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<v Speaker 1>hackers claim to have stolen around seven hundred eighty gigabytes

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<v Speaker 1>of data, though so far the hackers have largely just

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<v Speaker 1>alluded to what they've stolen. They've shown some screenshots and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but they haven't actually shared the information itself. They are

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<v Speaker 1>advertising the data is being up for sale on various

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<v Speaker 1>black market forums, so there's some crime right there. El

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<v Speaker 1>Salvador recently announced that the country may soon accept bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>as legal tender and consider it parallel to the Salvadoran dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the sense that you know, this would be

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<v Speaker 1>an accepted currency that you could use bitcoin anywhere within

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<v Speaker 1>El Salvador and it would be accepted just as the

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<v Speaker 1>actual currency of the country would. And the government of

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<v Speaker 1>El Salvador says that this will aid people who are

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<v Speaker 1>from El Salvador but who are living abroad to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to send remittances back home. That it will remove

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<v Speaker 1>some of the barriers that would exist otherwise when they

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<v Speaker 1>want to transfer funds back to people in El Salvador.

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<v Speaker 1>But the International Monetary Fund has expressed concern for this move,

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<v Speaker 1>stating that cryptocurrencies in general and bitcoin in particular, represents

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<v Speaker 1>some legal and economic concerns that have yet to be addressed. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't go into a whole lot of detail on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's a lot of different things that we

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<v Speaker 1>could easily point to, like the fact that cryptocurrencies frequently

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<v Speaker 1>get used in concert with illicit activities, not not exclusively,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does have that association unfortunately. And also taxation

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<v Speaker 1>becomes an issue, and that brings us to here in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, where the Internal Revenue Service where i

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<v Speaker 1>r S, is seeking authority from Congress to oversea operations

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<v Speaker 1>that relate to cryptocurrencies. So as it stands, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no clear law that gives the i r S authority

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<v Speaker 1>to do stuff like collect taxes on gains that are

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<v Speaker 1>generated through cryptocurrency transactions. Um and Further, the i r

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<v Speaker 1>S lacks the legal foundation to go after instances of

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<v Speaker 1>fraud that involve cryptocurrencies. The decentralized nature of cryptocurrencies is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the many features that attract people to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and another is that a lot of transactions, while part

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<v Speaker 1>of a publicly viewable ledger, are otherwise kind of off

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<v Speaker 1>the radar. And it remains to be seen if Congress

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<v Speaker 1>will grant the authority to the I r S in

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<v Speaker 1>order to pursue, you know, more responsibility with regard to cryptocurrencies.

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<v Speaker 1>And I imagine that this news is affecting the cryptocurrency

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<v Speaker 1>market a bit, because everything seems to affect the cryptocurrency

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<v Speaker 1>market a bit. I mean, if Elon Musk tweets about

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<v Speaker 1>it, it it will really get going. Sticking with politics for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, a group of Democrat politicians in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States have proposed a few different pieces of antitrust legislation

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be aimed specifically at really big tech companies,

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly the Big Five of Apple, Amazon, Alphabet, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>and Microsoft. While there are draft bills on the matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are several of them, and they come from

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<v Speaker 1>different people and they say slightly different things, you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of boil them all down own to trying to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with two main concerns. Concern number one regards companies

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<v Speaker 1>that can both operate a marketplace and sell their own

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<v Speaker 1>goods and services through that marketplace, along with goods and

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<v Speaker 1>services from other companies. So this would include corporations like

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<v Speaker 1>Apple and Amazon. Both of them have their own products

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<v Speaker 1>listed for sale in market places that they each control, respectively. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Amazon's got its own shop obviously, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>its own products in that shop side by side with

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<v Speaker 1>products from other companies. That's kind of what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That represents a conflict of interest, and it means that

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<v Speaker 1>these companies could conceivably promote their own products over those

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<v Speaker 1>from other entities. So if you've ever done a search

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<v Speaker 1>for a product on Amazon and you notice that the

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<v Speaker 1>first few results all seem to be Amazon branded products,

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<v Speaker 1>then you get what I'm saying. This is a little

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<v Speaker 1>different than stores that have a store brand. Usually in

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<v Speaker 1>those stores, you don't see the store brand presented in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that obscures or you know, eclipses the other brands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's side by side, and the idea is that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not promoted over these others. It may be cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>and thus more attractive. But it's not like the store

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<v Speaker 1>is necessarily using tricks to promote one over the other.

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<v Speaker 1>The concern here is that through technology, those are tricks

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<v Speaker 1>that these companies are using, and it's there's a worry

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<v Speaker 1>that creates an unfair market and sets all the other

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<v Speaker 1>parties at a disadvantage over the main company. The other

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<v Speaker 1>big concern is about acquisitions. So a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>big tech companies got that big not just through organic growth,

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<v Speaker 1>but by gobbling up other companies along the way. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>these acquisitions lead to less competition in a market, which

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<v Speaker 1>is rarely good news for consumers, and we see this

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<v Speaker 1>across numerous industries, from tech hardware to entertainment media and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>The draft bills generally are going to make it more

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<v Speaker 1>difficult for a large company to pursue acquisitions. Now all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff is again just in draft form. It could

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<v Speaker 1>change significantly before it ever goes to the floor for

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<v Speaker 1>a vote, and of course there's no guarantee that any

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<v Speaker 1>of these bills will even get that far, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting to see where things are going. Speaking of Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>the company could face a fine in excess of four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred twenty five million dollars in the EU for violations

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<v Speaker 1>of the g d p R. That's the General Data

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<v Speaker 1>Privacy Regulation. The g d p R is a set

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<v Speaker 1>of pretty strict rules that dictate how companies can collect

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<v Speaker 1>and use information that's generated by citizens of the EU.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently Amazon's approach was not in line with those rules,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the company will have to pay up. I

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<v Speaker 1>recently did a couple of episodes about privacy and how

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<v Speaker 1>tech companies collect and use our personal information, so I

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<v Speaker 1>recommend you check out the episodes that published on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>and Wednesday to learn more about that. And related to

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon is Ring, a company Amazon purchased in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen. Ring is famous for its smart doorbells, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's also famous for being a part of massive surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>systems utilized by police forces around the United States. Ring

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<v Speaker 1>filed a report earlier this year that showed that in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, the company received more than eighteen hundred legal

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<v Speaker 1>demands to share video footage with various agencies, which was

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<v Speaker 1>more than double than the year before that. But what

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<v Speaker 1>the report does not include is how many users actually

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<v Speaker 1>had footage from their Ring systems shared with police. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's eighteen hundred separate demands. Those demands could have included

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<v Speaker 1>more than one video source, and RING didn't really say

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<v Speaker 1>how many users had their their footage shared with police.

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<v Speaker 1>Privacy advocacy groups and civil rights organizations have long protested

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<v Speaker 1>how RING will work with law enforcement, including the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, you can have instances in which surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>is being shared with police without the police first securing

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<v Speaker 1>a warrant for that information, which does seem to to

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<v Speaker 1>tread pretty close to unreasonable search and seizure, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something that we should be protected against by

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill of Rights to the Constitution of the United States. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>over at Google, the company has recently made changes to

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<v Speaker 1>down list search results from sites that focus on slander.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, sites that are perpetrating slander. So if you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever googled someone's name and you saw some results that

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be targeting that person for whatever reason and

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<v Speaker 1>slagging off on them, that's really what we're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of these sites have been using very as

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<v Speaker 1>tactics to kind of game the system and rise up

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<v Speaker 1>the page rankings so they dominate the top search results

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<v Speaker 1>for the those people, and now Google is going to

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<v Speaker 1>actively remove that advantage. They're going to start down listing

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<v Speaker 1>or pushing down the results for sites that appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be dedicated to dragging other people down. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>a really delicate thing. You know, over in the EU,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this concept of the right to be forgotten, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's caused Google a lot of grief. And some folks

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<v Speaker 1>point out that if it is easy to get negative

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<v Speaker 1>things removed from search results, that could be doing a

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<v Speaker 1>public disservice in some cases. So for example, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a high ranking public official and this person

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<v Speaker 1>does something truly terrible. It is in the public's best

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<v Speaker 1>interest to know about that thing, and having a means

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<v Speaker 1>to squelch that kind of information would effectively be suppressing

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. So I am interested to see how this progresses.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's important to knock down the trolls,

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<v Speaker 1>who are, you know, slagging off people in bad faith,

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<v Speaker 1>usually as a way of either harming those people or

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<v Speaker 1>profiting off of this, versus the cases where you have

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<v Speaker 1>actual journalists who are attempting to document misbehavior. The Verge

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<v Speaker 1>reports that Facebook is working on a smart watch that,

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<v Speaker 1>should things go as planned, will debut next summer. The

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<v Speaker 1>smart watch will have a display that incorporates two cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>and that display will be detachable from the watch band.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the two cameras will be forward facing, and

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<v Speaker 1>users will rely on that one to make video calls

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<v Speaker 1>and the like. The second cameras rear facing, and thus

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<v Speaker 1>it's really only useful if you detach the smart watch

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<v Speaker 1>display from the band, Otherwise you're just taking very dark

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<v Speaker 1>pictures and videos of your wrist I imagine anyway, the

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<v Speaker 1>rear facing camera will have a ten a DP resolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is already reportedly working with other companies to develop

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<v Speaker 1>tech that could house the smart watch display. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>could plug the smart watch into other types of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe a backpack. Or imagine a robot that can

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<v Speaker 1>accept this little smart watch in a in a slot

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<v Speaker 1>in the robot and then it uses that smart watch

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<v Speaker 1>to power some functions. I might just be dreaming here, anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The watch might also include a heart rate sensor, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as other sensors. That, of course, has raised questions

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<v Speaker 1>from people and organizations that are concerned about privacy because

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook has well, let's just say it's known for being

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<v Speaker 1>pretty darn hungry when it comes to personal information, and

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<v Speaker 1>so if you've got yet another device feeding data points

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<v Speaker 1>to Facebook, that's even more juicy information that the company

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<v Speaker 1>can use to sell to advertisers and whatnot. But a

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<v Speaker 1>year is a really long time in the tech industry,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll have to wait and see if this watch

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<v Speaker 1>ever really comes out. If it doesn't, it will have

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<v Speaker 1>been a very expensive lesson for Facebook, because the company

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<v Speaker 1>has reportedly invested around a billion dollars in this endeavor already.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, Liz Hameron, the c v P of xboxes

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<v Speaker 1>Gaming Experience and Platforms, laid out future plans to games

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<v Speaker 1>Radar with regard to where Xbox is going next. Hameron

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<v Speaker 1>says that the company will continue to develop new consoles

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<v Speaker 1>and hardware, so that's not going away, but we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>expect anything new for a while because the series X

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<v Speaker 1>console is still a very young one. Also, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to propose that the name of whatever follows should

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<v Speaker 1>be the next box, so I'll take my check, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond that, however, it appears that you know, Microsoft is

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<v Speaker 1>really focusing on creating a way for gamers to access

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<v Speaker 1>the company's services. That includes partnerships with various smart TV

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers so that future televisions have a version of Xbox

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<v Speaker 1>Game Pass just built right into them. So that means

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<v Speaker 1>all you would need is a compatible controller to connect

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<v Speaker 1>to your TV, and then you could stream games from

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud to your TV and you don't need a

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<v Speaker 1>console at all. There's also talk of standalone games streaming devices,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of the little gaming sticks that you

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<v Speaker 1>could plug right into a smart TV, possibly like through

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<v Speaker 1>an HDMI connector, and then you link that device to

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<v Speaker 1>your WiFi network at home and you stream games through that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your television doesn't come with Xbox Game Pass

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<v Speaker 1>built into it, you could use this method to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, Microsoft's really exploring ways to reach beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the consoles themselves to let players get access to games

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<v Speaker 1>content through the cloud. And this is really interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>me because not that long ago Microsoft was really pushing

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<v Speaker 1>consoles as being sort of a a nexus for cloud

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<v Speaker 1>based services. You would buy a console, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>console would be your gaming rig. It would be your

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<v Speaker 1>your set top device where you could watch YouTube or

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix or Hulu or whatever. Plus it could interact with

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<v Speaker 1>live television broadcasts and cable. And now Microsoft is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of taking an opposite approach, at least when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the games themselves. Again, the company is not abandoning

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<v Speaker 1>hardware or consoles or anything like that, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that future consoles will continue to support that nexus approach

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<v Speaker 1>to services, but this does show a change in strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to think of it as the Netflix approach,

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<v Speaker 1>where your goal is to get your service on every

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<v Speaker 1>possible platform you can, and you extend your reach that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And that wraps up the news for Thursday, June two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand twenty one. I hope you're all doing well and

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