1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, October twenty second, twenty twenty, 8 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: season sixteen, episode number forty nine. Welcome to the latest 9 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: edition of The Break. I'm Derek Eagleton. I'm lifing s 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: WBC Morey Studios. At the start, I got Nick Amber 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: and Dave with me, and we're joined as we are 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: every Wednesday and Thursday, by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. Bucky, Today, 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: we get to talk about the Washington football teams defense 14 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys offense. Looks like teams don't even really 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: try to throw much against this Washington defense. And my 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: question for you is that because this pass rush is 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: just that good, or there really just some some real 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: deficiencies in the running game that teams are finding more 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: more easy to kind of exploit. This defense is loaded 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: with pass rushers, Dave invested heavily in the defensive line 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: and is paying dividends. They have five former first rounders 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: on their defensive front. Chase Young, Monte Sweat to Run Payne, 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen, and Ryan Carrigan comes off the bench, and 24 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: they absolutely can get after using a four man rush 25 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: and max coverage in the back end. This is how 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Jack del Rio wants to play. It's how he played 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: when he was at Carolina, when I was there as 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a scout. That's what he wants to do. And so 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: they wanted to put the onus on the offense to 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: drive the ball to length of the field without the 31 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: quarterback making turnovers. And they're banking that your quarterback will 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: make a mistake, he will force the ball down the 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: field or the rush would just overwhelm them to the 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: point that he throws up a pass and air and 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: pass under the rest. And so that's how it works. Yes, 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: teams are being able to move the football and run 37 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: the football and do those things, but when they've been 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: able to control the game, meaning their offense doesn't give 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: it away, their defense is certainly good enough to win 40 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: it by themselves. Well, in that case, based on the game, 41 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: we just watched from the Cowboys and looking at what 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: they were able to do and not do in the 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: passing game and the running game. Which side Which of 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: the two should the Cowboys try to exploit more the 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: running game or the passing game. I think this is 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: a game with Dallas has to be very careful. The 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: only way that the Cowboys can lose this game is 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: they gift the Washington football team easy opportunities in short fields. 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: Because offensively, the Washington football team is very challenge in 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: terms of coming up with big plays. And so I 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: would say maybe a little more conservative game plan, not 52 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: only to protect themselves against turning it over, but also 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: to protect the quarterback, the backup quarterback, Andy Dalton. They 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: need to try and run it. They have to establish 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: the run. They have to be able to control the 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: game from a clock management tempo standpoint, and so Zeke 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: has to be prominently featured regardless of the fumbling wolves. 58 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully he takes care of the football. But I think 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: it has to be a running game with some selective 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: quick passes. Quick passes them control the game and a 61 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: very ball control standpoint. Bucky, just can they go east 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: and west on this team? I mean I know that 63 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: we always say they need to go north, but I 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: just don't know if they have the power up front 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: on the offensive line being so banged up. Is this 66 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: one where you have to kind of try to spread 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: the field on them or they are is watching them 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: too fast for it? They're very fast. I mean they're 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: fast and athletic front. You can look at their linebackers 70 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: in their linebackers are non notable bull guys k Holkman 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: and John Boston. But it doesn't matter because the front 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: is so good that you can't even get to the linebackers. 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: And the way they play they want you to run 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: sideline the sideline because that plays to the strength of 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: their team. But their athleticism, particularly upfront, I think you 76 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: have to hit them right up in the face. You 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: have to make this a game that is played in 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: the phone booth, and you have to see if your 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: offensive line, in spite of all the change, is up 80 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: to the task of being able to create some movement 81 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: at the point of attack. It's going to be tough 82 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: sledding for the offense, particularly on the ground, but I 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: think it's the only way that you can play against him, 84 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: because you simply do not want Amy Dum to throw 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the ball fifty times against this pass for us and 86 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: against the coverage that they've been able to play successful. Bucky, 87 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of do the same thing 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: I did to you yesterday. I mean, I hear where 89 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: you're coming from. The offense needs to play clean, maybe 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: play a little bit conservatively so they don't make mistakes. 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: But that's what they do. They make a lot of 92 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: mistakes and it's gotten them in a lot of trouble 93 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: over the last month. You know, I know you just 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: said you can't worry about Zeke's fumbling problems, and I 95 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: think I agree with you, But I mean, is there 96 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: something they can do to mitigate the risk. Do you 97 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: just say clean it up Zeke and hope he can 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: do it, or you know, do you rotate these running backs? 99 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Is there a certain type of run or maybe the 100 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: screen game that you can get him involved in to 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: mitigate that? What do you think? You know the problem 102 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: with that is, in spite of his flaws, I think 103 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: we all will say that Zeke is still the best 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: offensive weapon that the Cowboys have, and so you can 105 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: try to avoid the issues, but at some point you 106 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: gotta put the ball in the best the hands of 107 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: your best player and let him go to work. Now 108 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: it's on him to be able to figure it out. 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: The funnels five fumbles that he's had this year, for 110 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: those on one hundred and one rushing attempts, that's unacceptable, 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: But you're hoping that he can get it corrected. Traditionally, 112 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: he hasn't been a high volume fumbler, even though he 113 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: has twenty in his career. I think you have to 114 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: continue to give it to him. I do like the 115 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: way that Tony Pollard played, but then I think we 116 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: can go back early in the year year he has 117 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: some eras and miskews and things that made you queasy 118 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: about him being on the field, And so right now 119 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of trustworthy guys that you really 120 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: can lean on, and so I would like to think 121 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: that you just hang your head on Zekiel Elliott fixing it. 122 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: But also the quick rhythm passing game. Because they play 123 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: so much zone, it should be an opportunity for us 124 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: to see more slants, quickouts, little things the Cede Lamb 125 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: and Mary Cooper and gallop and maybe those guys can 126 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: break tackles in space. There's a way to attack this 127 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: Washington football team. You just have to be smart in 128 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: the way that you go about doing it. And so 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: a mix of the run and the ball control passing 130 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: game should give you opportunities to move the chains and 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: move the ball consistently into scoring range where you can't 132 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: score some touchdowns and field goals against this squad. On 133 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: that note, Buckie, the Rams of all the teams that 134 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: the Washington football team have played at their at the 135 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: best day, passing the ball against this Washington football team defense, 136 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: they gained three hundred yards of the air. How were 137 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: they able to be successful? What were some of the 138 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: things that they did, and maybe the Cowboys have the 139 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: capabilities to do that could lead to some of the 140 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: same success. We're one of the Rams married their run 141 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: game with their pass game, the same things that gave 142 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: us issues early the first game of the year, where 143 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: they were running fly sweep action, complimentary play action passes 144 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: down the field. That's where they were able to hit 145 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: the Washington football team with The Cowboys don't operate with 146 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: that kind of dynamic scheming when it comes to their 147 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: running game. But you can put the Washington football team 148 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: in the bond if you're able to create some form 149 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: of concern about the running game. And so however you 150 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: get to that running game, whether it's throw early, run later, 151 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: throw on first down, get back to running on second 152 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: and third down, you have to make them make a 153 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: decision that we have to drop LANDA Collins in the box. 154 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: We have to create some one on one situation, some 155 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: single high safety looks, and you have to attack them 156 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: when you get that. You have to use Zeke as 157 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: the threat to make them change the way that they 158 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: played their coverage. And then when you get them in 159 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: those situations, you have to cash in on those opportunities 160 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: when you have one on one on the outside with 161 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Michael galloping al Maria Cooper. Because as much as I 162 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: made like how Kim the Fuller is playing, Ronald Darby 163 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: and Favorite Moreau are just guys and they've been able 164 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: to protect him by playing this soft zone. If you 165 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: can give them in a situation where they're having to 166 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: play more man to man, are having to play more 167 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: one on one situations, that's when the scales tip to 168 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys when their offense is in control. You talked 169 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: about the pass rush, and then we all know the 170 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: struggles that the Cowboys offensive lines are dealing with currently. 171 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Last week, I feel that there were instances where I'd 172 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: be watching the offense and seeing Andy Dowton and I'm 173 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: just like comeing in the get out, go run, get 174 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: out of there, go for it, And it didn't happen. 175 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: And I know that the running and his mobility, it's 176 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: not necessarily his strength at quarterback. But is this a 177 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: game where maybe the Cowboys give him a little more 178 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: wiggle room and liberty for him to kind of just 179 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: kind of move around a little more and just and 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: not be so static. I mean, like, ideally you would 181 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: think that the veteran would get the ball out of 182 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: his hands he held onto it. Now, some of that 183 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: is rushed because he hadn't played, and as you guys know, 184 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 1: when you're the starting quarterback, you take up all the 185 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: reps where Andy Dalton hadn't gotten those reps, and so 186 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: he is still adjusted. I would expect him to be 187 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: a much better player the second start as opposed to 188 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: his first start, because now he's more comfortable as the starter. 189 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: I think this is also a game where Mike McCarthy 190 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: has to have a conversation with Kellen Moore to feature 191 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the quick game. Make Andy Dalton get the ball out 192 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: of his hands by calling routes dead are quick, try 193 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: to avoid being tempted or I'm gonna take shots. I'm 194 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: gonna go attack this coverage. We're gonna set him up. 195 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Just let the playmakers work and so Andy, get the 196 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: ball to Mary Cooper and Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallant 197 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: and let those guys do the work for you. Five 198 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: yard passes via air yards and let those guys break tackles. 199 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: When you look at a Marey Cooper and Ceedee Lamb, 200 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: they can go to work when they have the ball 201 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: in the hands, let them do it. Get it to 202 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: him on the perimeter, and let them do all the 203 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: heavy lifting instead of trying to call these deep and 204 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: intricate pass routes where one year old line can't protect 205 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: and to Andy darn is going to be tempted to 206 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: hold onto it waiting for a receiver to uncover. I mean, 207 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: I doubt that, this is my opinion. I doubt Ezekiel 208 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: Elliott fumbles this week. However, do you feel like when 209 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: a guy's trying not to fumble, he's still gonna be 210 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. I mean, he's just gonna be like two 211 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: hands on the ball. Wait, looking at me like that, 212 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm just listening. Okay, he's not gonna find it's not 213 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: the ball. But is he gonna run? I mean, he's 214 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: gonna get more than five yards doing it. Because everybody's 215 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: talking about the fumbles. He's going back to the lab 216 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: to look at fumbles. I mean, all I'm saying is 217 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: is that he's not going to be a guy that's 218 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: gonna sit there and say eat because he's worried about 219 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: the football all the time. So I mean not Nick. Now, Nick, 220 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: you bring up a good point, because certainly it's going 221 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: to be in his head and it's also going to 222 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: be in the minds of every Washington football team defender. 223 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: Because he has put the ball on the ground, and 224 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: he's put it on the ground consistently the first part 225 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: of the season. Every defender is going to Pope, Pride 226 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: pool swipe at the ball when he's running it. Now, 227 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: the thing that Zeke has to be able to do 228 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: is he still has to remain an aggressive runner while 229 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: being mindful of the ball. And so what you try 230 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: to do is you try not to over coach him 231 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to the fumbling walls. You tell him 232 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: to be mindful when you're in traffic, put two hands 233 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: on it, covered up. Understand, when you're going for extra yards, 234 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: you do put the ball in jeopardy. But you still 235 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: have to let Zeke be Zeke. And so it's that 236 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: fine line where you emphasize it and you touch on it, 237 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: but you don't want to overtalk it because you don't 238 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: want him to be a tenantive player. He has been 239 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: a dominant play, a top five runner because he has 240 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: played a certain style. You have to continue to encourage 241 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: him to play the style while Steel being mofuled of 242 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: just taking care of football. I don't think anybody who 243 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: listens to this show really needs to hear a lot 244 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: about the actual pass rushers on this team, Like Washington's 245 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: given Dallas fits for years, and that was before they 246 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: even had Sweat or Chase Young. But I'm curious. Landon 247 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: Collins strikes me as a very similar type of safety 248 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: to Buddha Baker. And we saw what Buddha Baker was 249 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: able to do the other night, due does Washington? You know, 250 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: are they gonna ask him to do that type of stuff? 251 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: Are we gonna have to worry about him lifting or 252 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: do they trust those you know that front four to 253 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: do it all themselves. Well, when you put put it 254 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: on tape and you see Buddha Baker go crazy, certainly 255 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Jack del Rio will have to add it to the 256 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: play sheet. He'll have to at least test him to see. 257 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: I was worried if you're gonna say that fixed it, 258 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: if they fixed that issue. But I mean, when you 259 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: see the Cardinals have so much success being able to 260 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: dial up pressures from all angles and the confusion with 261 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: an inexperienced offensive line, yeah, you may get some of that. 262 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: That's not their normal emo. They typically don't like to 263 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: dial up pressure because when you dialoup pressure, it exposes 264 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: them in the back end. But I do believe now 265 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: that they've seen a team have success, it will maybe 266 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: lead to a couple more blitzers and pressures that you 267 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: may see from the Washington football team, even though it's 268 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: not their normal way of going about doing their business defensively. Yeah, 269 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: even though that's not what they do. I think for 270 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: the next several weeks, we could probably expect the Cowboys 271 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: are going to get a lot of that because this 272 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: offensive line and what they put on tape there against 273 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Final question for you, Bucky, we get to 274 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: the moment of truth. Who wins this game and why? 275 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a game for Dallas 276 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: to win. I don't think the Washington football team has 277 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: enough offensive firepower to score unless the Cowboys give it away. 278 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: And so if the Cowboys just can win the turnover battle, 279 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: and I don't even really worry what that looks like 280 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: plus one or whatever, as long as they win the 281 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: turnover battle, they should be in a position to win. 282 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: I think the key to the game really rest on 283 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: Zekiel Elliott and how he approaches it. Is he tentative 284 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: and timid like Nick has been alluding to, or does 285 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: he just play? Because if he plays like Zekiel Elliott, 286 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: he can have success. We have seen him have success 287 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: against his team before. He just has to tote it 288 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: and they have to be confident enough to tote it 289 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: because we know that the recipe for disasters andy Dalton 290 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: throwing the ball fifty times. Zeke has no choice but 291 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: to be good because they have to give him enough 292 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: opportunities to be good, and I think he will and 293 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys should be able to win this game. 294 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a touchdown a less. I think 295 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: it'd be very similar to the New York Giants game 296 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: Real Quick Bucky as a follow up to that. Do 297 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: you think Zeke is good enough to be able to 298 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: have success even with this offensive line? Yeah? I mean 299 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: it's tough, like normally depended upon your offense some line 300 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: as a runner, but I think he certainly is good enough. 301 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: I think the thing it comes to a commitment not 302 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: only from Zeke, but from the play caller and everyone involved. 303 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: Has Mike McCarthy stood in front of the room and said, 304 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: our path to success is running the football with Zeke Elliott. 305 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: When they have that declaration, that's when you'll see things 306 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: start to change. And I just don't know if they've 307 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: gotten to that point because it's not only Zekiel Ellett 308 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: in the offensive line. Does Kellen Moore know that that 309 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: is the best course for them to be able to win? 310 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: Does he have a clear understanding of how to do it? 311 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: And I think as the losses mount, Mike McCarthy at 312 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: some point has to put a bigger imprint on this 313 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: offense and the way the team is managed. And I 314 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: think we're nearing that point at two and four he 315 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: has to kind of step up with all the criticism 316 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: and the whispers. He has to kind of turn this around, 317 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that he'll do that. All Right, we 318 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you, Bucky ell as good stuff as usual. 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Get your tickets 365 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: now at PBR dot com or SeatGeek dot com. Yo. 366 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: Let's do it all right? Hold on, Can I say 367 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: something real quick? This has been bothered me for a while, 368 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: definitely this week? All right? Okay, Dave Amber helped me 369 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: on this because I don't really know. Is it Washington 370 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Football Team? As is that their title? Dallas? That is 371 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: their name? They are the Washington team? Are they the 372 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: Washington Football team? Just like it's Dallas? Are they Washington 373 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Football Team? Well, it depends on where you look at it. 374 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: Like if you look at it on thost sites where 375 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: they you know where they they they have your name, 376 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: they have your city, and then they have your moniker. 377 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Then they actually listed as Washington is their city and 378 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: football team. They're annoying. We don't sit there and say, 379 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons do this, the Philadelphia Eagles are this? 380 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: The Washington football team just called Washington like the Washington Dallason. 381 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: That's honestly, that's what I do. Like I've said annoying 382 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: ever since they made the change, I just typically call 383 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: it Washington. I'm just glad it's something different than it was. 384 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: It just seems like it's so cute and fun that 385 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: everyone just loves to say Washington football team, washing football 386 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: team business and then watching football teams, and even Bucky 387 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: said at fourteen times, well you know why I do that? Now? 388 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: You know why I do that is because I've said 389 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the other name for so many years that mentally I 390 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: have to do that to keep myself from saying the 391 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: other name. So like literally really, as I was driving 392 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: to work Monday of this week, I was thinking to 393 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: myself and I said, probably fifty times, watch the football team. 394 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Watch the football team. Watch the football team, just because 395 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: I had to get it into my head because I've 396 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: been saying the other name for solo. Yeah, so yeah, 397 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: I said, Well, on the radio the other day, I 398 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: said the red teams over under, and I think I'm 399 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: at two this week. So let's see what happens in 400 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, all right, so let's jump in. Let's 401 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about this Cowboys offense versus 402 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: the Washington football team's defense. One question I have for 403 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: you guys about the offense. Can Dallas win playing more 404 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: ball control and scoring twenty points per game if they 405 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: get rid of turnovers? I know Bucky was talking about that. 406 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: He was saying, you know, you want to have the 407 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: quick passing game and combine with your running game. That 408 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: may be your way to success. And I think if 409 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: you do that, you're probably gonna not You're not gonna 410 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: be scoring. I don't think as quick and as many 411 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: points as we've seen throughout this year. But the question 412 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: is do they have a defense that's good enough to 413 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: do that if they don't turn it over? Nicko, let's 414 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: go to you first. I think the defense. Obviously, the 415 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: defense is not as bad as as the points they're 416 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: giving up just because of the turnovers. Now, there is 417 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: something to be said of you know, you don't have 418 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: to give up a touchdown just because your offense fumbled. 419 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you have to go right out there 420 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: and just have a our fault. Might as well just 421 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: give up a touchdown. I mean, you mean, show some 422 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: pride on that part. But I do think, yeah, the 423 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: turnovers would would certainly help, because not only are you 424 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: not turning it over, but like in Zeke's first fumble, 425 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: you're at the forty yard line of the Cardinals. You're 426 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: gonna drive and drive, probably get a field goal, maybe 427 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: a touchdown, so you know you're it's it could be 428 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: a fourteen point swing if it's seven points out of 429 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: your hand, seven points to them. So yeah, I think 430 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: I don't know about twenty but but I think that, 431 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, it could be that if this offense was 432 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: not turning it over, probably twenty four twenty eight would 433 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: would probably win amber I think. So, I mean that's 434 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: a huge part of it. The defense obviously needs to 435 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: do their part as well. Well. I mean, aside from 436 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: that first game of the week. Aside from that game, 437 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: they've given up thirty plus point every week, so that's huge. 438 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: But again, turnovers don't help. But I absolutely think that 439 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: against Washington, if the offense, the Cowboys offense, is able 440 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: to knock out all their their turnovers, they can definitely 441 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: win that way. Dave number one, I mean against against 442 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: an offense this lifeless. Yes, they can do it. The 443 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: defense can do it against this offense. I mean, you know, 444 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: the Giants scored thirty four. It's really probably more like 445 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: seventeen or twenty if if not for turnovers and mistakes 446 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: by the offense. So it is possible. I don't know 447 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: if we lost Dave there and making his great point, 448 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: but let's do this, let's do this, let's I want 449 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: to I want to throw out something real quick about 450 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: what that point. You were just making compassionate about it too, 451 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: sepoldn't um we have two spots done here. Um No. 452 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: I was saying that, you know they the Cowboys are 453 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: averaging seventy point nine yards on every scoring drive, every 454 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: scoring drive they've had that the average is seventy yards 455 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: per drive. That's doing it the hard way. Yeah, and 456 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: that and that even counts like if you get if 457 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: you get a field goal. I mean, you're only get 458 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: in twenty thirty yards, you know, so it's just the 459 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: yards that you're driving, do you happen to know? And 460 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: the other opponent, the Cowboys opponents are fifty four point one, 461 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: so I mean they they're having I mean you see 462 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: some of these yards for the for the other teams, 463 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: you know, thirty yard drives, the seventeen yard drive, thirty one, 464 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: thirty eight. Cowboys hardly have. They only have two this year. 465 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: They're less than fifty and both of them were field goals, 466 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: so they're not they're not getting any turnovers obviously, any 467 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: big plays on the punt return or anything for short fields. 468 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: And it's like you're right doing it the hard way. 469 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: And and the interesting part about that is you can 470 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: expect to maybe do that to some level of success, 471 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: maybe not winning, but some level of offensive success if 472 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: you've got all your pieces in place. And I'm talking 473 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: particularly about the quarterback. Without that, as we saw last week, 474 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: that is a that is a tough ask with this 475 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: offensive line and Andy having to play a little different, 476 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: Like that's not Andy's game to be able to deal 477 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: with a bad offensive line and make people miss. That's 478 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: not his game. So when you're asking putting him in 479 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: that situation, now you're saying, Okay, every drive you're gonna score, 480 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go seventy yards. The likelihood of 481 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: you doing that regularly is is probably not that great. 482 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: Dave you back? Am? I am? I back? Yes, you're back. 483 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, y'all. I don't I don't know why this 484 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: only ever happens to me. It's it's you. It sucks 485 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: because I was nice and riled up, like I was, really, 486 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: where'd you lose me? Like? What was the last thing 487 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: I said? Tell you what you were going to say? That? 488 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: Do you trust the offense to actually quit turning over 489 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: the ball? Okay? Exactly? Okay, so yes they can. They 490 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: can hold Washington to twenty points if they don't turn 491 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: over the ball. But why do we think that they won't? 492 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: Why do we think that they won't do it? Like, 493 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: it's not an aberration, it's not a rough patch, it's 494 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: what they've done all year. I will bet any of 495 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: y'all an ice cold Miller light. I mentioned PBR, so 496 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: I want to throw out one of our sponsors instead, 497 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: I will buy you a Miller lighte if Andy Dalton 498 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: does not get strip sacked on Sunday. It is going 499 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: to happen. One of these guys is going to rip 500 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 1: through this line and hit the crap out of him, 501 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: and the ball's gonna be on the ground. They're going 502 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: to turn the ball over. I refuse to believe that 503 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: they won't until they prove me otherwise. And that's what 504 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: that's what troubles me is. Yeah, this Washington offense is putrid, 505 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: like the Dallas defense might actually have a chance against them, 506 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: but they're gonna get some help. I promise you they are. 507 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, one thing, do you trust the I was 508 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 1: gonna ask, do you trust the cop of the Washington 509 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: offense and our defense to actually be able to Well, 510 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: do you trust the Washington offense to capitalize on those turnovers? 511 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: I mean he goes back to the defense. I mean, 512 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: do you trust the defense enough to actually stop them 513 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: from scoring touchdown suddenly? Well, I mean that's that's hard 514 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: to predict, right because I mean, you know, maybe maybe 515 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: they turn it over on the Washington thirty, or maybe 516 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: they turn over at midfield. But what I mean, you know, Dad, 517 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: there's been a strip sack that sets Seattle up on 518 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: the three yard line. I mean, any offense can score 519 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: if they're inside the five, start to drive or you know, 520 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: or the defense say that Washington is going to get 521 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: seven to ten points off of turnovers. Just based on 522 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: everything we've seen so far this season. You know, I 523 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: think that one thing the Cowboys have got to do 524 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: in this game, and really in a lot of games, 525 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: is they have to throw the ball down the field 526 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: way more. I mean, like even the safeties aren't playing 527 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: that far back and you can spread them all over 528 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: the field. Find your mismatch. Fine, is it Cooper is 529 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: a gallop? Is it CD? Whatever it is. But they 530 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: need to take shots down the field because I said 531 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: this for years. You do that early in the game, 532 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna let everybody know what you're trying to do. 533 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: It lets them know if it pushes them back, and 534 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: you can kind of offset. You know, you're getting the 535 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: shotgun three steps block it, Max protect throw the ball 536 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: down field. You have playmakers that can go make plays. 537 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: They can run by people and guess what they throw 538 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: flags in this league for past interference, which in this 539 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: offense you could take it forty yards. You know, Lord 540 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: knows that the Cowboys defense gets called for it. So 541 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they need to do that. Back off 542 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: the pressure a little bit. But let me ask you this, 543 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: does that work in an instance where you're playing a 544 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: team like the Washington football team that does not necessarily blitz. 545 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: So that means if they're playing they got seven let's 546 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: say they got seven guys back, they're only rushing four. 547 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: They got seven guys back. Even if you max protect, 548 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're gonna get it guy open because 549 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: you got three guys in a route and you got 550 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: seven guys defending. Like, how do you how do you 551 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: manage that against a team that doesn't blitz as much? Well? 552 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: And stop? I mean, you know, do it. I mean 553 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: you don't have to. I mean, you don't have to 554 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: run deep if they're gonna play that far over the top. 555 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: But I mean you can find within that group, you 556 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: can find a favorable deep ball. They're not just playing, 557 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, prevent blanket coverage back there. I mean, and 558 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: if not, then then you're tied end. Better get to 559 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: work this week. If that's the case. If they're gonna 560 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: do that and take away your deep ball and only 561 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: rush for then you're tied end. Better work it this week. 562 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: With Dalton Schultz. And you know, that's something I think 563 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton would like to do is throw it kind 564 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: of down. But we've seen he's got a nice deep ball. 565 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: These receivers got to go make a play on the ball, 566 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: and I think they can and I think that would 567 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: kind of offset a few things there. Well. I mean, 568 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: I think one of the things they got to consider 569 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: is I think you're right with the tight end, but 570 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: also think they're gonna have to you should we should 571 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: expect to see them flood particular zone. So if you 572 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: got seven guys playing, one way to beat that is 573 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: go to one part of the field and put a 574 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: lot of receivers in that area that with route combinations 575 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: that get a guy open and then get the ball 576 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: to him as quickly as you can. So there are 577 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: ways to do it. I don't know if the deep 578 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: ball is going to be the answer this week. I 579 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: do think though there are ways to be able to 580 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: beat a defense like this. Now is all still as 581 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: predicated on can you stop those four? Because those four 582 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: are gonna be coming and they're better than your five. 583 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: So he even went just five verses four, you're not 584 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: gonna win those matchups. A lot of times this weekend, 585 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: so we'll see how that all plays out. 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Derek, don't piss off the producer. Okay, 629 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: do whatever you want, but don't piss off the producer. 630 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: Hey man, we gotta find our fun in this thing. 631 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are two and four. We find some fun 632 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: in here and some reasons to laugh because right now 633 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: the team isn't given us much of though. But what's 634 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: the defense? Fourteen men on the field? Sometimes, I'm sorry 635 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: that ain't funny. All right, let's jump back in. UM, 636 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit more about the 637 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: offensive line if at this point, I think we all 638 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: probably expect that there's a very good likelihood that both 639 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Knight and Martin will miss this game. So what is 640 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: the best line combination in your opinions? I don't want 641 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: to know necessarily what you think the team will do, 642 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: because I think we all agree they're gonna try to 643 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: minimize movement as much as possible. So cam Urban probably 644 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: is your option to just pop right in there where 645 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: Brandon Knight is and then keep everything else as it 646 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: was last week. But what do you think is the 647 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: best offensive line combination? Let's start first with Dave while 648 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: we have you, Dave woh No, it's totally justified. Um, 649 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I don't know at this point, like 650 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: where we are, like who who? Who? Am I to 651 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: even argue that there's a better possibility out there? I mean, Okay, 652 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: cam irvings Is, I assume gonna start left tackles. He's experienced, 653 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: he's done it before. Ye, maybe you try Jordan Mills 654 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: at right tackle. But like when they signed Jordan Mills, 655 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: I heard a lot of people from Chicago and Buffalo, likesh, 656 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: watch out, Dallas, don't start that guy. So it's not 657 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like anybody left is like this 658 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: just badass? You know. Um, maybe you know Greg Sinnott 659 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: was good enough that they wanted to poach him off 660 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland's practice squad, like they took him from another team, 661 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: So maybe he's worth a look. But I mean we're 662 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: talking about the bottom of the barrel here. No offense 663 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: to all of these guys. I mean, they're NFL players, 664 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: but you're talking about with all due respect, No, and 665 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: with all due respect, but like you're you're talking about 666 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: like your fourth you're talking about like your fourth option 667 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: at left tackle, your third option at right tackle, your 668 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: fourth option at right guard, your second option at center. 669 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: Like what are they supposed to do? I guess maybe 670 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: I would try to not at right tackle, but we 671 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: know that they really like Terrence Steele, so I don't 672 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: think they will, So I would probably just plug Irving 673 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: in on the left side and see what happened, all right, Amber, 674 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what else is there to add to that? 675 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: Not much. I agree with everything that Dave said, and 676 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: at this point I'm just like, okay, let's just try 677 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: to keep some kind of consistency in the old line. 678 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: So okay, yes, you're gonna keep Steel. He hasn't been 679 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: playing great, but that's what you got and you don't 680 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: got many options. So now, Cameron Irving, that's another guy 681 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: that you've had in the line in previous time. So 682 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: maybe that's a guy that's just easier to maybe just 683 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: plugging there as well. Obviously not obviously he might surprise us, 684 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: you never know, But I so now in this year, 685 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, we haven't gotten a chance to really see him, 686 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys clearly preferred of other guys over him 687 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: prior to the injury that happened with him. So it's 688 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: a tough one. You just don't have many options. And 689 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: right now, I guess it's based on whatever they are 690 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: seeing at practice, which are things that we don't get 691 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: to see. So hopefully they make a good choice and 692 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: just figure it out, figure out one way or another, 693 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: trying to poor Andy, Poor Andy, Poor Andy, because it's 694 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough game. Amber didn't sound very convinced. Nigga, 695 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, they don't know. I don't know. 696 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they want to play Terrence Steele, and 697 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: I feel like they're they're trying that's kind of a 698 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: future thing, like, you know, let's just see how this guy. 699 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: Let's just keep throwing him out there and see if 700 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: he can get better. I mean, where if he gets 701 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: all these reps this year, will he be a better 702 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: player here next season? So I mean I think that 703 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: you know that that's kind of that they're gonna keep 704 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: playing him, and there's really no reason not to. Jordan 705 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: Mills isn't coming off the practice squad yet they haven't 706 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: done it. I mean Gregg's and not. You know, we 707 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: keep hearing he's a basketball type player, a good athlete, 708 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't know if he's ready. He's 709 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: on Cleveland's practice squad. So I mean, I think that 710 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: they said it best cam irving left side and just 711 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: keep keep rolling with Steel, but that right side of 712 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: just be oddish, McGovern and Steele. It's like, you know, 713 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: if you were just to say, hey, when they go 714 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: play Washington, this is the three that they're going to 715 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: have on the right side, not not Looney Zach Martin, 716 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins, but but these three. So here's which just 717 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: I think about this every time they play Washington. I 718 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: talked to Lyle one time. You know, you remember a 719 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, like his first year at right tackle, 720 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: he had a murderers row, Like he had to play 721 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: Von Miller, He had to play Khalil mac that year. 722 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: Like week after week he was having to play these 723 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: badass left ends. And I was like, Who's who's the 724 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: best one, Who's the hardest guy to play? He was like, 725 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: if you want me to be honest, those guys are 726 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: all good. But Karan Karagan is the hardest guy to 727 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: play like. He's relentless every snap. He never gives you 728 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: anything but his best. I hate playing him, and that 729 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: was coming from Lyle Collins. So Karrogan doesn't even start 730 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: for this team anymore. By the way, I like good 731 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: good luck, which I did. I wanted to throw I 732 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: wanted to throw one more thing out there. You know, 733 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: we talked about Connor Williams as a tackle and if 734 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: things improve a little bit, like if when you get 735 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: Zack Martin back, maybe you can have that conversation. You know, 736 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: maybe you can play mc govern at left guard and 737 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: Zach at right guard. But like, you can't move Connor 738 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: Williams now like you don't have a guard to play. 739 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: If you move him, like you could, you could swap 740 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: Cam Irving in at guard. I think he's done a 741 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: little bit of that. But now you're asking two guys 742 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 1: to play positions they're not used to on short notice 743 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: against a great pass rush, like you can't. You can't 744 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: do that right now. Maybe when Zach is healthy again, 745 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's something you talk about, but that's not possible 746 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: right now. So looking at everything that's happened with the 747 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: offensive line, the injuries you've had, the guys you've had 748 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: to play, how they've performed. Has it gotten bad enough 749 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: yet to where if you were the GM, you would 750 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: be looking out there and looking at the possibility of 751 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 1: giving up draft capital to trade for an offensive lineman, 752 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: particularly a tackle. Now. I know, obviously both those two 753 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: tackles you expect are going to be back next year, 754 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: but they're both I think definitely with Tyrone, his age 755 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: and the types of injuries he's had, makes you think 756 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: it's still not a bad idea to have a great, 757 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: a really good swing tackle on this team. Would you 758 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: be willing to go up draft capital to go out 759 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: and trade for a replacement tackle to come in right 760 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: now and give you some help, Nicholas, let me find 761 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: out this week and let me get to well, when's 762 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: the buy? I mean, when's the trade deadline? As I 763 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: guess it is coming up week eight? I think, is 764 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: that right? Well, it's it's it's next week, I believe. Yeah, Okay, 765 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: you know I mean, and I say this because it 766 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: comes to a point in any two weeks. I'm sorry too, Sorry, Yeah, 767 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: any season, it doesn't matter if it's NFL, I mean, 768 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, NBA. I mean baseball, you try to figure 769 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: out where you are, and I think Stephen Jones even 770 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: said that, like where you are is for are you 771 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: playing for the future or are you trying to win? 772 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: And I think with this division, you're always gonna try 773 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: to win because you're you're never really gonna be out 774 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: of it. I mean, nobody's out of it. So I 775 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: just I think that's a good question. And don't forget 776 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: about the compensatory picks the Cowboys will probably get for 777 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: about four or so. I mean, so they're gonna have 778 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: a lot of picks this year. Um, yeah, you could, 779 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: you could possibly do that. I just feel like you 780 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: got to figure out though, is is it worth doing though? 781 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: Is it worth trying to get into the playoffs it's 782 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: eight and eight or is it you want to just 783 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: say just play it out and see. I mean, I'm 784 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna wait, this will be a good, good test. You 785 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: got one more game against a really really good defensive line, 786 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: so you'll find out if you have any hope. And 787 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: then if you if you win the game, it's like maybe, 788 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we do want to get a little 789 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: bit better here and try to win this thing. But 790 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that that's a tough question. 791 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: That's a good question. It is a tough question. One. 792 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: On one hand, I'm like, Okay, do I trust that 793 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: my defense is going to be able to turn things 794 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: around and do something more for my team? In that case, 795 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: do I trust that we actually have a good run 796 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: to make it? Because the thing it's like, yes, it 797 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: sounds great, Oh you're still ahead in the division, blah 798 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: blah blah, but what happens in the playoffs? I mean, yeah, 799 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: you might win the division, but what happens once you 800 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: start facing those other teams are playing better? I mean, 801 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: you're not automatically just gonna get better all of a sudden, 802 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: unless you know there's some progression throughout the weeks. But 803 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: let's say that that's the case, and I'm thinking, okay, yes, 804 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: I want to win this year at least get to 805 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs, then my answer would be absolutely yes. I 806 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: would be looking into trading and bringing someone in, mainly 807 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter the fine. Yeah, I mean it 808 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 1: matters a lot. The fact that these guys level wise 809 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: are a lot lower than your starters that you initially had, 810 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: and to me, that creates more possibilities for other injuries. 811 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: You don't know what can happen to a Leidalt and 812 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: you don't know, and God forbid something happened to Zeque 813 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: as well, But you don't know what the lack of 814 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: good protection it's going to lead to as far as 815 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: creating possibilities of injuries of other guys that you absolutely 816 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: need healthy this year. So yes, I would be looking 817 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: to make some kind of trade, all right, Dave, start 818 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: off with my general philosophy. I mean, just with the 819 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: way this roster is constructed right now. If I'm trading 820 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: for somebody, it's got to be a young guy who's 821 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: in the you know, second second year of his deal 822 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: at the world Like, I can't do Amari Cooper again, 823 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. It worked, It was a great trade, It 824 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: worked out for everybody. Oakland got a good pick and 825 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: they have a great receiver. But they had to turn 826 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: around and pay them twenty games later. I can't do 827 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: that right now. With how bloated this this contract situation is. 828 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: There's so many big contracts on this team and not 829 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: enough of them are pulling their weight. I can't. I 830 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: can't add that into the mix. Like, if I'm making 831 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: a trade, it's got to be for a guy that 832 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about paying for a little while. 833 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: On top of that, yeah, I mean you are right 834 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: to be concerned about the long term future of Tying 835 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: and Lyall, but they're still here and they're still counting 836 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: towards the salary cap, and I've I've got to try 837 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: my best to get them right for at least the 838 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: next few years. So if you want to make it, 839 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: if you want to trade a Day three pick for 840 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: a serviceable tackle who can just help you get through 841 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: the season, I would do that because you need a 842 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 1: third tackle anyway, like they need to get a guy 843 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: next year no matter what. But it can't be like 844 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: your first round pick. I mean, even with the concerns 845 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: about Tying and Lyle, you can't spend your first round 846 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: pick on a position where you already have to twelve 847 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: million dollar guys. I just don't think that's smart roster building. 848 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: So if you can get a guy for a Day 849 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: three pick, knowing that you've got compics coming, I would 850 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: do it just to keep the season afloat. But like 851 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: a major trade is something that you do to get 852 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: over the top or save your season, and without trying 853 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: to sign like a pessimist, I just don't know that 854 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: that's realistic for this team right now, so I wouldn't 855 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: want to commit too much. You know. The one thing 856 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: I will point out is actually, I personally think that 857 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 1: they have to address offensive line in next year's draft. 858 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: I think it's actually just as important as addressing this 859 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: defense in next year's draft, because you look at the 860 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: players that they have on this offensive line, and it's 861 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: an offensive line that's really banged up, and I think 862 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: you have to account for the fact that you're not 863 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: going to have Tyren Smith for every game of the 864 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: season next year. I think for the rest of his career, 865 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: you probably have to account for that. Now, if he 866 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: happens to do it, great, that's great because I think 867 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: when he's playing, he's still wanted the best out there. 868 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: But I think you have to account for the fact 869 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: that you might not have him for full sixteen games. 870 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: So I think you gotta address the offensive line, and 871 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: probably a player that can move around a little bit 872 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: there can maybe help you out of guard, can pop 873 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: out the tackle if you get an injury there. But 874 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: I think you have to And so my point is, 875 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: if you're gonna have to address it in the draft anyway. 876 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: Then I'm looking around at teams, and I agree with you, Dave. 877 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at those top notch guys that I'd 878 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: have to give up a first or second round pick four. 879 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking for those guys that maybe I give up 880 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick four. And it's a guy that 881 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: comes in and he is a very solid tackle. He 882 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: is a and I know fans are gonna roll their 883 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: eyes right now. He is a Doug Free. He is 884 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: a guy that has some wartz, but a guy that 885 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: is serviceable, that is better than what I have right now, 886 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: that I think can be a future swing tackle as 887 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: well on this team. Honestly, I disagree completely. I think 888 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna trade, I would trade a guy that's 889 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: in the last year of his deal that the team 890 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: knows that they're not going to resign. They're still pretty good. 891 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: They might get something. I mean, I don't have a name, 892 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: and I don't want to throw a name out there 893 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: for tampering, but I'm just saying, oh, I thought you' 894 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: on the couch. No, on another team, he's a second 895 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: round pick, a former first round pick maybe, and they're 896 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: not going to sign him. He hasn't been that great, 897 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: but he can. You know, let's just get instead of 898 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: lose him in free agency, you give him something. Because 899 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: think about it. Would the Cowboys right now for a 900 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: fifth round pick? Would they trade Terrence Steele for a 901 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: fifth round pick? Um? Yeah, they would want to. Yes, 902 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: they may not have enough bodies. They would want to. 903 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: They might not be able to. Yeah, they have enough 904 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: bodies for it. I mean even if the guys got back, 905 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: even if you even if let's say Tyman wasn't now, 906 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: you think they would trade for a fifth round pick, 907 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: maybe a sixth. I mean, I don't think it's a 908 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: no brainer. I mean, teams don't what I'm trying to say, 909 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: his teams don't want to get rid of young lineman. 910 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: There's not many out there, so there's not going to 911 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: be a lot of young lineman you can just go 912 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: and get. I don't know if the Cowboys would just 913 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: be willing to just trade maybe a fifth round pick, 914 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: but I mean they wouldn't trade him for a seventh 915 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: round pick or sixth round pick. Probably. I mean they 916 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: feel like they got a good young team. Saying Larry 917 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: Allen got thrown around by Reggie White and he was 918 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: the best to ever play. I'm just I'm not saying 919 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: he's gonna be Larry Allen. I'm just saying he let 920 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: these guys keep going, keep going. He's a big, strong guy. 921 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: He looks the part. You know, he just gotta. I'm 922 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: you're a believer. You're a believer in his upside. I 923 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: think you have to. I mean you, No, you don't 924 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: have to. I mean I'll put it like this, Yeah, 925 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough that makes me believe in his upside. 926 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: The coaches obviously have seen more, and they do believe 927 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 1: in it. I'm asking you, do you believe in his upside. 928 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be right now. I can't 929 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: say he's gonna be a great player, but I know this. 930 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 1: You play football to get better. I mean, you get 931 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: better by playing football, and teams most teams don't have 932 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: the luxury of throwing out a rookie you like that 933 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 1: to play. He's having to play. I think he's gonna 934 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: benefit from it. My point all along is that's our 935 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: that's our guy that we're talking about. A lot of 936 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 1: teams wouldn't want to part ways with a young tackle. 937 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying I got you all right. We 938 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. You going back to borrow. We're gonna 939 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: tell you what we think is gonna happen on Sunday. 940 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys will take on the Washington football team at noon 941 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: and we'll get you guys ready for that. Till then, 942 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: For Nick Eatman, Helm and Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eilton. 943 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 944 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 945 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,479 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.