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Speaker 1: You know what I did by this year that I

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Speaker 1: loved that changed me what my AMC Stubs rewards membership.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Diva, That's what I'm saying. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the family. Welcome to Nicole Kidman's family. We are

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Speaker 1: almost at the end of Thank God, not that this

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Speaker 1: was a bad not that this was a bad year,

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Speaker 1: but like it just was a long year. I in,

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Speaker 1: you know, looking back at the year because spoiler alert

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Speaker 1: virgins today we're doing the best of two episode and

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Speaker 1: looking back at this year, I just realized some things

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Speaker 1: that I thought happened in or even were truly like

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Speaker 1: six months ago. I had that experience when I saw

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Speaker 1: my Spotify rapped this year, which did unfortunately have Catwalk

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Speaker 1: by RuPaul, And I remember, like I at that and

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Speaker 1: I was like Catwalk came out this year, Like that

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Speaker 1: made me feel ancient. Um, anyways, yeah, this year did

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Speaker 1: really like crawl by musically, whether were there any like

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Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about like a lot of our

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Speaker 1: who was the first person that stuck out of your mind.

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Speaker 1: Two was about her, because of course it was at her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course it was that. I mean there, if we're

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean for me obviously we have talked

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Speaker 1: about at length on the podcast. Ethel Can really ruled

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean we we've talked a lot about,

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Speaker 1: Willows Coping Mechanism which I was obsessed with, UM, Dance

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Speaker 1: I've listened to a lot um some albums that I

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Speaker 1: I really liked Laurel Hell by Mitski Um. It actually

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Speaker 1: It's it does um. Yeah, this song No One Dies

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Speaker 1: what about what about like movies? Do you have favored

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Speaker 1: All at Once, Like that is a movie that you know,

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Speaker 1: lifelong battle with insomnia, reading before bed is really helpful,

427
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: but kind of only if you're doing it with an

428
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: actual physical book, not an e reader, because something that

429
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: that is really bad for me is looking at my

430
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: phone a lot before bed because it just kind of

431
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: keeps my brain going. Although I do love to read

432
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: fan fiction before bad so I don't know, I don't

433
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: know what to do about that. I love some nighttime

434
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: fan fiction. Um okay, i I'm like I had a

435
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: hard time thinking about like oldies but goodies, but like

436
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: I also realized that two of mine were Glenn Close influenced. Um.

437
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: I watched the first season of Damages, starring Glenn Close

438
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: and Rose Byrne, which is like a lot of people

439
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, always talk about in the context of like

440
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: best TV shows ever, but out our most popular TV

441
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: shows are like whatever, Um, this this show like predated

442
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: like the prestige TV movement where like movie stars were

443
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: like migrating to TV or whatever, like Glenn Close did

444
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: it before, you know, Nicole Kidman and all of them

445
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: did big little lies. And I think that like I

446
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: had never I'd always heard about Damages as like something

447
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: of a punchline in conversation, but it never actually considered

448
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: it or even knew what it was about. And the

449
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: first season sucked me in. I watched it in like

450
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: maybe over the weekend. Um, and yeah, it was. It

451
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: was you would love it's her and Rose Byrne Rose,

452
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: and I actually think it love Roseberd. Yeah. And it's

453
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: literally just like a procedural well barely procedural. Actually it's

454
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: it's not procedural. Actually, it's it's a a true, a

455
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: true like linear narrative about like this law firm that's

456
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: obviously you know at corrupt and murderous, and um, I

457
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 1: loved it. It It reminded me of how I felt when

458
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: I watched Scandal, but it's like maybe better written than Scandal, um,

459
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: at least the first season. I also loved Fatal Attraction.

460
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: Our Fatal Attraction episode was so fun to talk about

461
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: when we when we did it with Obsessed, and like,

462
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: that was a movie that, like, I could not stop

463
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: thinking about after I finished. Tell you, I'm the same

464
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: for me with Obsessed. That is one of my oldies

465
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: but goodies. And I was reminded of it recently because

466
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Obsessed is a Christmas movie. It is there's a Christmas party.

467
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll watch it this week. Yeah, twice in one year.

468
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah tis the season. Um, did you did you buy

469
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: anything that you really liked this year? Like? Did I

470
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: buy anything? Girl? And anyone who listens to this podcast

471
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: knows this is a podcast about consumerism and capitalism. This

472
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: is a podcast about consumption. This is this is a

473
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: story about control, right, Yeah, but it's some critique. Obviously,

474
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: we're doing it knowingly, you know, we're we're we're we're

475
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: very in on the joke about how we're corrupt capitalist.

476
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: I should I go now and see how many essence

477
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: orders I made this year or sick No, because a

478
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: lot of the things, the things that we buy on

479
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: essence aren't even best buys. They're not And that, honestly

480
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: is a lesson I should learn. Is because nothing I

481
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: bought on essence this year ended up in my best

482
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: buies of the year. Um, but some things that did

483
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: are so recently I have been you know, radicalized as

484
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: a as a second hand buyer, as like a thrifty

485
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: vintagy girl. And so I bought a bag recently because

486
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: of TikTok, because I saw someone on TikTok wearing it

487
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: and it has become kind of my go to everyday bag.

488
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: It's um, the Coach ergo bag, I think. I mean,

489
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: just like any vintage Coach is really good because Coach

490
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: leather is amazing. There. The way that their bags are

491
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: made just like really you know, withstand the test of

492
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: time and it's a great shape. It's sort of like

493
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: a hobo bag. Mine is brown, and like, even though

494
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: I wear a lot of black, I also like to

495
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: throw brown into the mix. And it's just like a

496
00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: great staple. Um. I will say a not another non

497
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: beauty thing that I bought this year, very recently that

498
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I really love is my air fryer. I was so

499
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: opposed to it. I was like, I'm not going to

500
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: be one of those bitches like cooking everything in an

501
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: air fire. Girl. It is the best fucking thing because

502
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: it means I never have to use my oven like

503
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I can just anything I need to cook. I just

504
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: pop in that little bitch that you can see right

505
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: there on top of my fridge. It's the best I've

506
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: been making, you know. I bought a package of those

507
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: pre made tall House cookies. Every night when I'm like

508
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: watching TV, I pop four of them in the air fire.

509
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: They're done in like six minutes. It's amazing, so nice.

510
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: I I love. I love a life hack like that,

511
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: A little life hack on me. Got um. The thing,

512
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: the beauty product that I love that I now wear

513
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: like most days is UM. There's this brand called Dear

514
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: Do d d I e U x Um. They have

515
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: this moisture so called moisture eis are called instant Angel Cream.

516
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: I had found like almost every component of my skincare routine,

517
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, for a time except for moisturizer. Moisturizer was

518
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: the thing where I was like, I'm still figuring out

519
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: what I like, and I love this instant angel cream

520
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: and scare. Okay, so I have used it as well.

521
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: I bought a tube of it a couple of months ago.

522
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: I like it, but okay, what is it? What is

523
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: it that it's doing for you? Because I kind of

524
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: because I couldn't kind of find it, like right, it's fine,

525
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of fine. It's for me. It's like not

526
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: too thick, not too thin. It gives me a dewy

527
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: glow that I like, but it's not overt. It just

528
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: like helps it like makes me feel refreshed. And yeah,

529
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: it just kind of checks all the boxes because what

530
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: I was finding is when I was like doing like

531
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, tad to Harper moisturizer, like all these other things,

532
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: it's like it either had too much shine, or it

533
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: was too thick, or it was too thin, or it's

534
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: like very goldilocks and very civic to like what I

535
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: want autam moisturizer, And I think the same can be

536
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: said for like others. Yeah, no, I actually I actually

537
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think that's like when I used it.

538
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: I think that when I was done with the tube,

539
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: what I was waiting for was this moment where I

540
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this really improved my skin or like whatever.

541
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: And in fact, actually what I should have been thinking

542
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: was like this. For a month, I did not have

543
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: to think about the kind of moisturizer I was using.

544
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: I just used a pretty good moisturizer morning and night.

545
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: And like you might you actually might have turned me

546
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: back around. I might, I might buy another tube. The

547
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: key is just to combine it with like a vitamin

548
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: C treatment, right, Like, I think that's like what That's

549
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: the thing that I think helped me like just incorporated

550
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: into my daily routine. The only other moisturizer that's even

551
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: come close is the doctor chart one that comes and

552
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: like a yellow tube that like is like you know,

553
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: I think, not not as good as interesting. I'm I'm

554
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: currently off vitamin C. I've stopped using it. I love that.

555
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: Oh I'm off vitamin C these yet that's so l A.

556
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: You can take the girl out of l A. But

557
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: um on the subject of skincare, I did. I did

558
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: discover a facewash that I loved this year. Um, So

559
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: if you if you are anyone who's in the market

560
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: for one. It's the karez Um Greek yogurt facewash. It's

561
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: a really good, Yes, it's a really good foaming facial cleanser.

562
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: And foaming cleansers are great, um if you have clogged pores.

563
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: And I use it. My routine is I I double cleans,

564
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: I do an oil cleanser and and like a cream cleanser.

565
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: And that is just like the kind of the same

566
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: with the do It's just like, no nonsense. It does

567
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to do. Don't really have to think

568
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: about it. Yogurt is an underappreciated sentence ever as well.

569
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: One one time it doesn't taste or smell like yogurt.

570
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: It just kind of like is the consistency of yogurt.

571
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: It's yogurt consistent. And I think maybe they use yogurt

572
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: yogurt in no formula. I don't know. I can't really

573
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy, isn't it, Like wouldn't it clogg My course,

574
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't no, girl, but I don't know.

575
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: So Rose and I were trying to think of like

576
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: fun categors for like our best of and I wrote

577
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: down best substance, primarily because I tried you know, microdicing

578
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: psilocybin this year, which is like you know, mushrooms essentially,

579
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: and it really worked as a holdover before I got

580
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: onto Lexi pro, which obviously works better. But but like I,

581
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: I do recommend it, said at work, Sila psilocybin, Alexa

582
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: pro No no, no, psilocybin, psilocybin. Yeah, I I saw

583
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: an actual noticeable difference. It's just like extremely subtle, extremely subtle,

584
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: and it's something that you only notice over the course

585
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: of taking it for like about a week or so,

586
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, like my brain is like a

587
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: little different. And and I don't know, I think i'd

588
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: be curious at anybody that has like tried it or

589
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: read about or watch a documentary about like mushrooms and stuff.

590
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: I think that, like, I don't know, I'm it's a

591
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: very new science and so I'm always interested in it.

592
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: But I also rose I had never done sialist before

593
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: this year. Sialists, Yell, how do you pronounce it? Viagra

594
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: generic via Va, generic Viagra. I had never needed it,

595
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: but now I'm on like so many kind of bonus

596
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: stomping pills. But do you have a hard time maintaining interaction.

597
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: I've never in my life how a hard time getting

598
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: an erection ever, And now as of this year, because

599
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm on I'm like they all deter my libido. And

600
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: I had multiple sexual encounters this summer where I was like,

601
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't get it up and I've

602
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 1: never had this problem before, and um, this last week,

603
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: I I didn't have a problem because because of this

604
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: magic drug that everybody talks about you that is kind

605
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: of garbage. Um, did you have a substance of the year, Rose,

606
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: I guess I would say melotonin because I am like,

607
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: as I said already this episode didn't have talked about before.

608
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: I have a lifelong struggle with insomnia, and I definitely

609
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: over the past couple of years have had like a

610
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: bit of um a dependence on um ambien and other

611
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: like prescripture sleep aids and have really been trying over

612
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: the past like six months maybe to wean myself off

613
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: of them. In Melitonin has been helpful in that it's

614
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: not fool proof, and like, of course I would love

615
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: to get to a point where I don't need anything

616
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: to get to sleep, but I just don't unfortunately, think

617
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: that's in the cards for me. I think this is

618
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: something that I will be dealing with for the rest

619
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: of my life, and so I would at least prefer

620
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: to do something to use something that my body naturally

621
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: produces um rather than you know, like a chemical that

622
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 1: is like tranquilizing me. Right, Yeah, always not ideal. Um.

623
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: I wait, while we're on the top of the topic

624
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: of substance, actually, um Phoebe. Phoebe gave us some some

625
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: category ideas, and one of the ones she came up

626
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: with was best moment when you made a deal with God.

627
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: And I feel like I saw God when I was

628
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: in that cahole on Fire Island. But did you make

629
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: a deal with God when you were in that because

630
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't sound because if you did, I don't know

631
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: if you made a good deal, because you you you

632
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: were in that moment, I was your God. You you

633
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: mistake me. I made the deal in the like I

634
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: was holding on for dear life. I had a moment

635
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: of clarity where I was like, I am going to die.

636
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to die, and I actually

637
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Speaker 1: have never had a near death experience quite like that,

638
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Speaker 1: and I did. I was just like God, please find

639
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Speaker 1: me and I and there she was. I also had

640
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Speaker 1: a moment where I made a deal with God similarly,

641
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: when I thought I was going to die, and it

642
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: was when I finally got COVID in October. I woke

643
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: up one morning and couldn't breathe because my nose was

644
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: so congested that I couldn't breathe through it, and my

645
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: throat was so swollen, and that I couldn't breathe through

646
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: my mouth. And I really I woke up choking and

647
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: thought I was going to die. And in that moment

648
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Speaker 1: I made a deal with God. Um and and actually

649
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Speaker 1: the deal was um getting on Pakslovid. And the deal

650
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Speaker 1: that was my favorite substance of the year was pak

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Speaker 1: slovin Banks Alvin. The deal was, Dear God, please let

652
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Speaker 1: me live, and I promise I will not change anything

653
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: about my life, our behavior, as I will stay the

654
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Speaker 1: same exactly. UM. Did you have uh favorite favorite TV

655
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Speaker 1: from this year? Obviously, as anyone who listens to this

656
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Speaker 1: podcast knows, we talked about Interview, Interview the Vampire. We

657
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Speaker 1: talked about Yes, I I think Interview with the Vampire

658
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Speaker 1: was my my favorite show of the year. Um, We've

659
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Speaker 1: we've talked about. We loved House of the Dragon, we

660
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: loved Severance, I loved the guilded Aid, we loved the dropout,

661
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: and we also loved and we didn't talk about it

662
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: last week after the news came. Yeah, we didn't. F

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Speaker 1: Boy Island Rest in peace. I will never forgive you

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Speaker 1: HBO Max for taking it away from us. I truly

665
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: want to go to the like Warner Building and protest

666
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: it is not right, it's not okay, it's not fair.

667
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: I truly like would start an insurrection over it. To that.

668
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Speaker 1: I I completely agree. It's like one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: reality TV shows that you and I have ever watched,

670
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: A competition reality series that is like should be a standard. Honestly,

671
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't, I have no I mean, obviously we know

672
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Speaker 1: that there's like a lot of fund up things going

673
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Speaker 1: on at Order Media right now, and that's why this

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Speaker 1: is getting canceled. Legendary was definitely It's, as I've already

675
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: said in the show, one of my favorite TV shows

676
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: of all time, was one of my favorite shows that

677
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: I watched this year. It was canceled at the same time.

678
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Speaker 1: Fuck that, Um, fuck HBO Max. Sorry, I mean you

679
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Speaker 1: are micro. I love you HBO Max, but like why

680
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Speaker 1: did you need to bring these You need to bring

681
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: these girls backs, like come on, like legendary, like they're

682
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: just needs to be more shows like that. Um and whatever. Anyways,

683
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Speaker 1: I will, okay, I want to give out a special

684
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Speaker 1: a special honor um this. I've created an award, um

685
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Speaker 1: and it's it's the Azalea Banks Icon Award for the

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Speaker 1: for longest Voice Notes, the inaugural Azalia Banks Icon just

687
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Speaker 1: because you know, Azalie Banks is a is a big

688
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Speaker 1: fan of talking for a vailent time over multiple Instagram

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Speaker 1: stories and so I feel like she would um no,

690
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Speaker 1: she would hate us. Well she I mean she actually

691
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: has like come for me on Twitter before. Um. But um,

692
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Speaker 1: in her honor, I'm awarding this award, this icon award

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Speaker 1: to you, frand because you frequently sent me voice notes

694
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Speaker 1: that are um like a minute forty seconds or like

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00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: two minutes and seven seconds, or you'll send You'll send

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Speaker 1: like like three two minute long voice notes in a row.

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Speaker 1: I will. I will do that, So maybe not three,

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Speaker 1: but probably at least three three to see I would

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Speaker 1: I see. The thing is if I asked you to

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Speaker 1: to to describe anything that happened in any of the

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Speaker 1: voice memos. I'm not sure we would be able to

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Speaker 1: decipher which one, but I but I know I have

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Speaker 1: received them. One thing is for sure is I have

704
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Speaker 1: received them. Um. The only one I can think of

705
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: right now is the one where that I send you

706
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: after listening to the Thiebe Bridges song that's on the news.

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Speaker 1: Is the album where I was like a little stone

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Speaker 1: and like describing a spiritual experience I had for Rose

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Speaker 1: at like what was her time three o'clock in the morning. Um.

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Speaker 1: I love sending voice memos and honestly, the virgins at

711
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Speaker 1: home are going to be hearing this and they're gonna

712
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Speaker 1: be like three minutes. That's nothing, because when you're queer,

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Speaker 1: the girls send eight minute voice memos. I'm glad I

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Speaker 1: not that girl, but like queers be doing that. I

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Speaker 1: think what the cadence should be is like lots of

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00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: short little voice notes back and forth. I like lots

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Speaker 1: of short little ones as well. But I but I

718
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Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to get in. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: establish a back and forth with someone because you never

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Speaker 1: know if they're available or like you know, you just

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Speaker 1: like send it in. See because when it's two minutes,

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Speaker 1: you're basically leaving a voicemail. Yeah, I mean that's that

723
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Speaker 1: is what it is. Like, we don't do voicemails anymore.

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Speaker 1: We do voice memos, which yes, okay. So Phoebe also

725
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Speaker 1: asked our guiltiest pleasure of the year. I mean we've

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Speaker 1: already established we're not. We don't feel guilty about the

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Speaker 1: things that we find pleasurable, right, which I love. I

728
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Speaker 1: think it's like it's a kind of it's a pillar

729
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: of this show, is that we do not feel guilt

730
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Speaker 1: about our pleasures. But like if I were to, I

731
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Speaker 1: mean like aside essence sales, aside I do. My car

732
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: is like, uh a large expense that I cannot afford um,

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Speaker 1: And yet it's the first car and only car I've

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Speaker 1: ever owned, slash might be the only car I own

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Speaker 1: for a very long time, and I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: have it in a few more months when I moved

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Speaker 1: back to New York. And so I've been like really

738
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Speaker 1: really enjoying what is a kind of costly, monthly um thing.

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00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: I have a similarly vehicular, somewhat guilty pleasure. Or I

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Speaker 1: guess if we're calling for saying an indulgence. Now that

741
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Speaker 1: I'm back in New York City, I'm taking a lot

742
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Speaker 1: of cabs. I am I the girl. After I puked

743
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Speaker 1: my brains up yesterday morning before my hair appointment, you

744
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Speaker 1: better believe I was not taking the train to get

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Speaker 1: to the salon. Oh yeah, or um. I did take

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Speaker 1: a taxi one night. I was at my brother's on

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Speaker 1: the Upper west Side and I took a cab to

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn from the Upper west Side. I did take it

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Speaker 1: with his friend who was also there, who also lived

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Speaker 1: in Clinton Hill, so like we put together and split it. Oh.

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Speaker 1: But I also on Thanksgiving I got to ride home

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Speaker 1: from Connecticut with some extended family members who also live uptown,

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Speaker 1: and I took a taxi from the Upper west Side

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Speaker 1: to Brooklyn. But it also meant that on Thanksgiving night,

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00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: I was home by ten thirty watching Gilmore Girls. So

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Speaker 1: I don't regret it at all. I honestly the money

757
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: is worth it, Like it's worth it to me to

758
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Speaker 1: not have to sit on the subway for an hour.

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00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: Look time as money, time is money. I would say

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Speaker 1: that is the thing that I most frequently spend money on,

761
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: is like comfort and time. Yeah, those are the things too.

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Speaker 1: And I, you know, I set time as money kind

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Speaker 1: of like facetiously like I I it's actually like less

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00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: time as money and more that like time is more

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Speaker 1: valuable than money. Time is the most precious resource we have.

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Speaker 1: And I will do anything to have more of my

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Speaker 1: life back. And if I have to pay for that

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00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: time time, then I will. Um and there we go? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Did there is there? Uh? Did you have like the

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Speaker 1: best porn? I don't know if I have the best porn. Um.

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00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: I guess my best porn would be that the one

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Speaker 1: that I watched with Tarzan and Milo from Wait wait, wait,

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00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: wait did you see that there's been a new drop

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Speaker 1: of Aladdin having sex with Wait? Who was it? Let

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00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: me call it my I need to know because it's

776
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: actually it really hit our spots and also like all

777
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: the trans lesbian cent our porn that we sent each other,

778
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: but like not not you know, as as something I

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00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: actually pleasured myself too. Oh wait is this the print?

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00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: Oh that's some that's the guy from Tangled. Tangled? Okay,

781
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: it's the guy from Tangled having sex with Aladdin. Okay,

782
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: will you text that to me please? I will not.

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Speaker 1: I will not on a professional level. I can't sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm girl. Um that actually is a is a great

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00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: addition to the best porn of the year, what's your

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00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: favorite porn of the year. Honestly, it's it's less favorite

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00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: porn of the year and more like favorite porn actor

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00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: is Sharrock. So it feels kind of basic because Sharrock

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00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: is like everybody's favorite porn actor. But like Sharrock has

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00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: really like he checks all of my boxes and I

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00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: do return to like a lot of his like videos,

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00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: and he has the like dominant rough top thing while

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00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: also being really kissy and really tender and really soft

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00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: that I just don't really see with a lot of

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00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: other porn um. And on top of that, he in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the crisis that's happening in Iran right now,

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00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: Like Sharrock's Instagram is almost exclusively like sharing and re

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00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: sharing and amplifying information about what's happening in Iran, and

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00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: like you just don't see people in the industry doing that.

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00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: Like he's literally killing his own algorithm and and shadow

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00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: banning himself because he wants to like protect and amplify

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00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: the things that are going on in his country, and

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00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: like that is like sick as fuck. And the porn

804
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: actors that I do love are the ones whose personalities

805
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: I I fall in love with online and the things

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00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: that they stand for are always amazing. So well, it

807
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: truly has been a year, and you know, big thank

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00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: you to all of you who listened to us talk

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00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: every week this year, who followed us on Instagram Like

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Speaker 1: a Virgin for nine, who filled out our survey. We

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Speaker 1: love you. We hope to UM just keep making this

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Speaker 1: show for you for as long as you want to

813
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: listen to it, UM, and we hope that maybe Like

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Speaker 1: a Virgin was one of your favorite parts of two

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Speaker 1: and will be in as well. Thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to our show this week and this year, UM as

817
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: always follow us at Like a Virgin nine. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you in the new year with new episodes, new guests,

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Speaker 1: new topics. UM, you can find me online anywhere at

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Speaker 1: Rose Damn you and you can find me at France

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Speaker 1: Squish go anywhere you like. Like a Virgins iHeart radio podcast.

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00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: Our producers Phoebe Unter, with support from Lindsay Hoffman, Julian Weller,

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Speaker 1: Jess Crane Chitch and Nikki Etre Until next year. Bye,

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