Speaker 1: This podcast discusses sexual assault. Please take care while listening.
Speaker 1: I want to share a story of a real life
Speaker 1: fairy tale gone horribly wrong, A cautionary tale about a
Speaker 1: marriage so filled with betrayal and deceit that it set
Speaker 1: off a path of destruction that people are still recovering from.
Speaker 1: My name is Andrea Gunning and I'm a podcast producer
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. In the summer of twenty nineteen, I had
Speaker 1: just wrapped up a project when I met a fellow producer,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Fasin. She pitched a story she thought was compelling
Speaker 1: enough to make something of, and it turns out it
Speaker 1: was her own story.
Speaker 2: Information this Morning about a cop County teacher in jail.
Speaker 2: Spencer Haron was arrested Friday at his home in Ackworth.
Speaker 2: Haaren is currently in the cop County jail on a
Speaker 2: fifty five thousand dollars bond.
Speaker 1: Spencer was Jennifer's husband of seven years. Twenty years after
Speaker 1: dating in college, the stars seem to align and they
Speaker 1: reconnected when they decided to get sirious. Jennifer moved from
Speaker 1: la where she worked as a television producer, to Ackworth, Georgia,
Speaker 1: where Spencer was a popular high school teacher. He was
Speaker 1: also awarded Teacher of the Year twice.
Speaker 2: We've learned his arrest stems from an alleged three year
Speaker 2: sexual relationship with a sixteen year old female student, Investigators
Speaker 2: saying The team says it started back in twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: when he allegedly groped her. It all happened on Kel
Speaker 2: High School property. The school's website lists the forty eight
Speaker 2: year old as the head of the career tech department
Speaker 2: and a coach.
Speaker 1: Jennifer was blindsided.
Speaker 3: I came home on June first, twenty eighteen. Spence didn't
Speaker 3: greet me. Instead, he was sitting on the couch shaking
Speaker 3: his head. It's all over. It's all over. It's all over.
Speaker 1: Nothing could have been more shocking from this popular teacher,
Speaker 1: respected coach, and loving husband. The arrest unlocked terrible secrets
Speaker 1: about predatory behavior that went against the image Spencer Heron
Speaker 1: fabricated for years, the cheerful neighbor, member of the Air
Speaker 1: National Guard. The truth shook a community, devastated his wife,
Speaker 1: and sent Spencer Heron to prison. I'm Andrea Gunning and
Speaker 1: this is betrayal Episode one. The perfect husband.
Speaker 4: Spencer and I met at college.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be in video production and he was
Speaker 3: the station manager.
Speaker 4: And I'll never forget our first meeting.
Speaker 3: He said, excuse me, do you know what time? And
Speaker 3: I said, oh, I don't wear a watch. She said, oh,
Speaker 3: me either, and that was kind of like the Inn
Speaker 3: and I don't know, it was just one of those things.
Speaker 3: We just connected right away. He was a year older
Speaker 3: than I was. In him being the station manager, he
Speaker 3: seems so cool to me. I remember I tried out
Speaker 3: for anchor that semester and he didn't choose me because
Speaker 3: he was afraid that if he did, everybody would know
Speaker 3: that he liked me. The word college sweethearts, that's what
Speaker 3: we were. We had so much fun. He had always
Speaker 3: try to do surprises for me or make a mixtape.
Speaker 3: Every day when we would pass by each other in
Speaker 3: the hallways, he would give me a note. He was
Speaker 3: just very attentive and he was very caring.
Speaker 2: I'm Jeffrey Birch and this is Berg.
Speaker 1: I'm her stepfather and I.
Speaker 5: Am her mom. She and Spence stated in college, and
Speaker 5: she was absolutely in love with him, and we loved
Speaker 5: him too.
Speaker 6: I'm Karen Bason and I'm John Fason. I'm Jenn's father
Speaker 6: and I'm Jennifer's stepmother.
Speaker 3: We thought a lot of it.
Speaker 4: We thought it was a wonderful young man.
Speaker 6: He had a great personality and you know, just a
Speaker 6: real down thearth person, very personable and michable and a
Speaker 6: talented fellow. I mean he was a musician, and I
Speaker 6: mean he played trumpet very good, evidently.
Speaker 1: Jennifer's sister Christy.
Speaker 7: You know, when people are in love, they just are
Speaker 7: beautiful because they're themselves and someone just totally accepts them
Speaker 7: for who they are, and they just shine and they're beautiful.
Speaker 7: Like I remember seeing my sister and she was wearing
Speaker 7: a red winter coat. She just looked so beautiful, and
Speaker 7: it was because she was just so in love. I
Speaker 7: don't know when we started calling him Saint Spence, but
Speaker 7: there were a few reasons why he was wonderful to
Speaker 7: my sister. When he got up, he was like, does
Speaker 7: anybody need anything, or he would go get coffee for
Speaker 7: my sister. He was polite and engaged with my mom
Speaker 7: and my grandparents. He was really curious about everyone, and
Speaker 7: he just didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 3: It was my senior year in college and I wanted
Speaker 3: to go out and you know, enjoy my friends and
Speaker 3: have fun. So we broke up, still kept in touch.
Speaker 3: I think I can honestly say I broke his heart
Speaker 3: and he was very sad and tried to get me back.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't that there was any anything wrong. It
Speaker 3: was just not the right time. So we remained friends,
Speaker 3: but eventually went our separate ways. My grandmother was upset.
Speaker 3: She couldn't believe it. She just thought Spence was perfect.
Speaker 3: She thought we were going to get married after school.
Speaker 3: My sister cried, She was like, how could you leave
Speaker 3: this great, perfect guy. You know, a lot of people
Speaker 3: can't understand, but at the time, that's just how I felt.
Speaker 3: I wanted to explore. We dated for a year and
Speaker 3: a half and it was one of those relationships where
Speaker 3: you realized what a good one looks like.
Speaker 5: She took her communication degree, She got into radio and
Speaker 5: was on the air in Minneapolis. From there, she decided
Speaker 5: that she wanted to see if she could get a
Speaker 5: producing job in California. She just decided, I'm going to
Speaker 5: la and I'm going to find my mark.
Speaker 1: Spencer and Jennifer stayed in touch for a while. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of couples in college, they eventually lost touch
Speaker 1: and started their own lives.
Speaker 3: Jen was on a path, so we lost touch after
Speaker 3: that for a long time. I think partly because he
Speaker 3: was married and had kids, and I wanted to respect
Speaker 3: that and those boundaries in that relationship.
Speaker 1: Jennifer was ambitious. She built an impressive resume and reputation
Speaker 1: as a talented reality show producer and was even nominated
Speaker 1: for three Emmy Awards.
Speaker 3: You Are Afoot Too entered the court room of Judge
Speaker 3: Judith Shindlight.
Speaker 5: She also worked for Judge Judy. In fact, when was
Speaker 5: nominated for a time Emmy, we got to go to
Speaker 5: New York to walk the red carpet.
Speaker 1: After a few years with Judy, Jennifer made her way
Speaker 1: from daytime to Primetime Tonight Guys.
Speaker 5: She ended up getting a job with Extreme Makeover Home
Speaker 5: Edition with Ty Pennington, so she went all over the country.
Speaker 1: Jen was making her mark in the industry. She could
Speaker 1: go from Judge Judy to Homemakeovers to the Craziness at
Speaker 1: the Beach.
Speaker 5: One of the ones that I was shocked about was
Speaker 5: she was doing Jersey Shore. That's what Jennifer excels at
Speaker 5: is being able to get along with everybody. Keep peace,
Speaker 5: amongst everybody, manage their different personalities and then produce a
Speaker 5: great show. That's what she's good at.
Speaker 1: Well, Jennifer was building an impressive resume. Spencer had built
Speaker 1: a different life back in Georgia.
Speaker 3: Spence got married, had three great kids, and for many
Speaker 3: years he was the stay at home parent who took
Speaker 3: care of those kids.
Speaker 1: Kevin, Spence's best friend, described Spence as trustworthy and loyal.
Speaker 8: It was funny, very charismatic if he came from a
Speaker 8: big family, so you never had much like in terms
Speaker 8: of physical possessions and stuff, so we always seemed like
Speaker 8: a simple person. My name is Rod and I've known
Speaker 8: Spencer since probably.
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty so eighty sixth grade. Rod and Spencer bonded
Speaker 1: over shared interests. Our high school was pretty small.
Speaker 8: There was probably one hundred and fifty people in the
Speaker 8: graduating class something like that.
Speaker 1: I think we were both always pop students in top popularity.
Speaker 1: I would think Spencer grew up in Avondale Estates, twenty
Speaker 1: minutes east of Atlanta.
Speaker 9: It's kind of Cony Well.
Speaker 6: Spence's real father, Spencer's real mother. They had this other
Speaker 6: couple that was good friends, and both couples I guess
Speaker 6: you could say he split up and married each other.
Speaker 6: And so Spence has step brothers, real brothers and half brothers, and.
Speaker 1: There was a bunch of It's a little confusing, but
Speaker 1: Spence was part of a big blended family. There were
Speaker 1: six boys altogether. Well, Jennifer was living her best life
Speaker 1: in La Spence was living in Georgia as a well
Speaker 1: regarded video production teacher. Julia Sultziak was one of Spencer's
Speaker 1: students over a decade ago. She still has fond memories.
Speaker 10: My name is Julia. I graduated from cal High School
Speaker 10: in twenty ten. I'm going to refer to him as
Speaker 10: coach Haaren, if that's okay. I've never actually called him
Speaker 10: Spencer's so everyone called him co Charan because he was
Speaker 10: the soccer coach.
Speaker 5: He coached girls soccer.
Speaker 10: Co Charan was my high school video productions teacher, my
Speaker 10: junior and senior year high school. Everyone who had him
Speaker 10: loved him. He was the fun class, the fun teacher,
Speaker 10: the fund program. You got to be on the announcements,
Speaker 10: you know, you got to work on these cool projects.
Speaker 1: When Spencer was thirty seven, he joined the Air National
Speaker 1: Guard and became part of the band he was the
Speaker 1: oldest person in his boot camp class and kind of
Speaker 1: played the role of dad there. And then, out of
Speaker 1: the blue, twenty years later, Jen's first love reached out
Speaker 1: to her on social media.
Speaker 3: I get a message from him on Facebook. He was
Speaker 3: planning his college reunion and saw me like a photo
Speaker 3: or something, so he reached out to me, Hey, how
Speaker 3: are you, how's it going? What are you doing? He
Speaker 3: told me that he had kept up with my career
Speaker 3: and knew I was in LA And honestly, the first
Speaker 3: thing that I wrote to him back was are you
Speaker 3: still married? Because I'm not going to get involved with
Speaker 3: somebody that's married. That's just not me. He wrote me
Speaker 3: back immediately said we split up four years ago. Great. Well,
Speaker 3: then he says, so, I know you travel a lot
Speaker 3: for work. Are you by any chance going to be
Speaker 3: in New York City in December, which was a couple
Speaker 3: months away. He said, I'm going to be there with
Speaker 3: the Decca group from school. I said, no, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't usually work in New York. Then I go
Speaker 3: to the movies with my sister two days later and
Speaker 3: run into my old boss from Extreme Makeover Home Edition,
Speaker 3: who says, what are you doing? Right now, and I
Speaker 3: said nothing. I was in between jobs at the time.
Speaker 3: He said, okay, I need to fly you to New
Speaker 3: York and you need to help me out with this show.
Speaker 3: Said okay, great, I'll do it, hopped on a plane
Speaker 3: and flew out there. So I emailed Spence and said, hey,
Speaker 3: guess what, I'm here. I'm going to be here for
Speaker 3: about a month, and he said, great, I would love
Speaker 3: to see you when you're here, and maybe you could
Speaker 3: even come and speak to the students. So I agreed
Speaker 3: to do that. One afternoon, rushed home from work changed
Speaker 3: tried to look as cute as possible. You know, it's
Speaker 3: December now in New York and hard to get a
Speaker 3: taxi at that time of night, so I was running late.
Speaker 3: The taxi drops me off about two blocks from the
Speaker 3: hotel because I just figured I can get there faster
Speaker 3: if I walk. So I walk in there and he's
Speaker 3: kind of leaning up against the wall, a kind of cool,
Speaker 3: and he sees me, and I think both of our
Speaker 3: faces just light up and gives me a big hug,
Speaker 3: and I just I remember thinking, wow, he looks really good.
Speaker 3: I just I got butterflies. I was excited to see
Speaker 3: him again. And then he and I went and walked
Speaker 3: around New York and talked and learned about each other again,
Speaker 3: and we sat in this cute little speakeasy bar. I
Speaker 3: noticed his sleeve kind of came up on his jacket,
Speaker 3: and I saw he had tattoos. And now I'm not
Speaker 3: a tattoo person, but for some reason, this was so
Speaker 3: sexy to me. You know, now he was cool and everything.
Speaker 3: I remembered, everything I remembered.
Speaker 5: The two of them walked the city all night long,
Speaker 5: just talking and talking and talking, and that's when they
Speaker 5: said they just fell in love all over again.
Speaker 3: I was on cloud nine. He walked me back to
Speaker 3: my hotel room. Yes, he came inside. No, I don't
Speaker 3: usually do that, but it was Spence, and I always
Speaker 3: felt safe with Spence. I asked him if he could stay,
Speaker 3: and he said, no, I have to go back because
Speaker 3: he had to go back to his student's And the
Speaker 3: next morning I woke up and I called my best
Speaker 3: friend crying because I was so sad that I may
Speaker 3: never see him again. I really thought that was it,
Speaker 3: and something in me was really sad about that. But
Speaker 3: that's not what happened. The whole New.
Speaker 1: York trip was serendipitous. After twenty years apart, Jen and
Speaker 1: Spencer were reconnected and this time Spencer was not going
Speaker 1: to lose her.
Speaker 3: He continued, you to pursue me and text me and
Speaker 3: call me from Atlanta to LA. We would be up
Speaker 3: all night on the phone.
Speaker 5: So she went back to LA. He went back to
Speaker 5: Atlanta area and they continue with their phone conversations. He
Speaker 5: had called us and said that he wanted to marry Jennifer,
Speaker 5: and he asked for permission. We said, We've always felt
Speaker 5: like you're part of the family. You know, you don't
Speaker 5: need to ask us, You just need to ask her.
Speaker 5: I said, the only thing we ask of you is
Speaker 5: that you go to LA and you visit Jennifer and
Speaker 5: you see what kind of lifestyle that she was living,
Speaker 5: because she was very, very successful in her career, very
Speaker 5: successful financially. I'm very established. And so he said, okay,
Speaker 5: he would do that because he was going to be
Speaker 5: asking her to possibly move to this small little in Georgia,
Speaker 5: pulling her away from LA. And that was a concern
Speaker 5: that we had too, is would she be able to
Speaker 5: adjuste that fair to her? Is that going to affect
Speaker 5: her career?
Speaker 3: So we re met in December twenty eleven. We made
Speaker 3: the decision pretty quickly that I would move out there,
Speaker 3: and I didn't mind doing that. I mean, it meant
Speaker 3: giving up a lot. My career was doing great. I'd
Speaker 3: really established myself, which in hindsight is a good thing
Speaker 3: because I was able to move to Atlanta and keep working.
Speaker 3: But his kids were there and that was important to him,
Speaker 3: and being a stepchild myself, it was important to me
Speaker 3: that he stay as close to the kids as he could.
Speaker 3: So I decided I would move there. I packed up
Speaker 3: my whole apartment and then he flew out and we
Speaker 3: drove my car across the country. Our first stop was Vegas.
Speaker 3: He gave me this booklet and in it were all
Speaker 3: these photos of the two of us, some of them
Speaker 3: from college and then some from New York and just
Speaker 3: you know, when we had seen each other since. And
Speaker 3: at the very end was a picture of my grandmother's
Speaker 3: ring that he had gotten from my mom. He got
Speaker 3: down on one knee and he asked me to marry him,
Speaker 3: and I was so excited. I wanted to be able
Speaker 3: to remember exactly what it felt like and what it
Speaker 3: sounded like, so I said, can you ask me again,
Speaker 3: and he just laughed and he asked me again, and
Speaker 3: of course I said yes. It was everything that I
Speaker 3: could have wanted.
Speaker 1: It was like a movie, all of the thought and
Speaker 1: effort Spencer put into their engagement. She waited so long
Speaker 1: for love. They were so sweet together. Like he was
Speaker 1: very demonstrative with his affection towards her.
Speaker 3: You know, he would say, look at jen Look how
Speaker 3: cute she looks today.
Speaker 11: He was always very.
Speaker 1: Proud to talk about her and about her accomplishments and
Speaker 1: things like that.
Speaker 3: He would walk by her and just kiss.
Speaker 4: Her on the top of the head, you know, just
Speaker 4: was very sweet.
Speaker 3: And their little love story was very sweet, and they
Speaker 3: loved to tell it.
Speaker 5: If she was traveling, you know, producing a show then
Speaker 5: coming back, he would always walk in and you know,
Speaker 5: Huger and say, so glad you're home.
Speaker 1: Jennifer's friend Danielle. I mean, he would just say, like, hey, wife,
Speaker 1: you know, and he was so proud of that.
Speaker 3: He was such a doting husband. Every morning he would
Speaker 3: leave me a note by the coffee pot. Every single
Speaker 3: morning for six seven years, he would text me during
Speaker 3: the day. I'd never worried about where he was or
Speaker 3: what he was doing. I really really thought we were
Speaker 3: living a fairy tale. Every time the clock would turn
Speaker 3: on eleven eleven, I would make a wish, and ever
Speaker 3: since Spence and I got back together in New York,
Speaker 3: the wish was, I hope Spence and I have a beautiful,
Speaker 3: long life together.
Speaker 1: When the bottom drops out, you usually don't see it coming,
Speaker 1: and Jennifer never did.
Speaker 3: I came home on June first, twenty eighteen, and Spence
Speaker 3: didn't greet me. Instead, he was sitting on the couch
Speaker 3: in the living room just shaking his head. So I
Speaker 3: was joking around with him because he didn't jump up
Speaker 3: and say, wife, welcome back. And I walked over to
Speaker 3: him and he just kept shaking his head. It's all over,
Speaker 3: it's all over, it's all over. I kept expecting him
Speaker 3: to say, oh, just kidding, because what could be that
Speaker 3: wrong that he would be feeling this way. He slid
Speaker 3: a piece of paper to me. I just kind of
Speaker 3: glanced at it, trying to figure out what it was,
Speaker 3: and it said searchworn on top. I saw the words
Speaker 3: sexual assault and.
Speaker 9: Studentlis arrested Kel High school teacher Spencer Herron on Friday
Speaker 9: at his home in at Growth. Investigators say he faces
Speaker 9: three counts of sexual assault.
Speaker 1: Imagine seeing that piece of paper, the search worn, and
Speaker 1: knowing that everything in your life was a out to change.
Speaker 1: He was charged with sexual assault with one of his
Speaker 1: own students. It had started when she was a sophomore
Speaker 1: in high school.
Speaker 3: I got up and stood in front of him and said,
Speaker 3: is this true?
Speaker 4: He said yes, He said it happened three times.
Speaker 3: This Spens is the last person that I would have
Speaker 3: ever guessed would have taken advantage of a kid. And
Speaker 3: I think anybody else that knew him would have said
Speaker 3: the same thing. To find out that he cheated on me,
Speaker 3: not with a woman, but with a sixteen year old girl,
Speaker 3: It is so hard to understand that I just started
Speaker 3: pacing back and forth him.
Speaker 11: He ruined everything. He knew how much marriage meant to me,
Speaker 11: He knew what it meant to me. I thought I.
Speaker 3: Knew what it meant to him. I set across from
Speaker 3: him at that point because I didn't want to be
Speaker 3: near him, just trying to make sense of what just happened.
Speaker 3: In realizing that life as I knew it would never
Speaker 3: be the same. The future that we planned was gone.
Speaker 1: It couldn't be true. Not her husband the nicest, kindest
Speaker 1: man in the world. A predator. Not possible, except it
Speaker 1: was possible. It happened.
Speaker 3: It didn't take too long before I saw two Cobb
Speaker 3: County police officers drive past our house. I knew they
Speaker 3: were on their way back for Spence. They had already
Speaker 3: been there once with the search warrant and busted down
Speaker 3: our front door. They took a bunch of his stuff,
Speaker 3: his computers, hard drives, and a pair of his underwear.
Speaker 3: All Spence could talk about was killing himself at that point.
Speaker 3: So I sat down on the coffee table right in
Speaker 3: front of him where he was sitting.
Speaker 11: On the couch, and I just begged him not to
Speaker 11: do anything stupid.
Speaker 1: Her life was upended, Her husband was sitting across from
Speaker 1: her talking about suicide. It was all so scary and
Speaker 1: so much to digest. Jen felt conflicted by a feeling
Speaker 1: of obligation to Spence because of the vows they took.
Speaker 1: Jennifer repeated after me, I Jennifer.
Speaker 3: I Jennifer the Spencer. Take the Spencer to be my
Speaker 3: wedded husband, To be my wedded husband. I wanted him
Speaker 3: to know that somebody would be there for him.
Speaker 4: We were married, They're supposed to.
Speaker 3: Stick by your spouse for better or worse, for better,
Speaker 3: for worse, till death do us part, till death do
Speaker 3: us part. The cops came.
Speaker 4: I opened up the door and looked across to Spence
Speaker 4: and was so relieved when I saw him walking into
Speaker 4: the foyer, because if he had run, I don't know
Speaker 4: what would have happened.
Speaker 3: But he turned around.
Speaker 4: He let them put the cuffs on him.
Speaker 1: Even after seeing the words sexual assault and student on
Speaker 1: the search warrant, Jennifers still needed to hear the police
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 3: I said, what are you arresting him for? They looked
Speaker 3: at him like, is it okay if we tell her?
Speaker 3: And he yells out no, don't tell her anything, which
Speaker 3: is weird because he'd already admitted what he had done.
Speaker 3: I guess he was still hoping to hide stuff. They
Speaker 3: walked him out of the house. I shut the door
Speaker 3: and I couldn't watch them put him in the back
Speaker 3: of the car. And the four year was the last
Speaker 3: time I've seen him.
Speaker 1: Jennifer was trying to process what had just happened. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: what she learned that day was only the tip of
Speaker 1: the iceberg.
Speaker 7: I was on a walk one morning, and I just thought,
Speaker 7: I need to call Jennifer. When I got home, I
Speaker 7: called her. She picked up the phone and she was
Speaker 7: like in hysterics and I was like, what's wrong, and
Speaker 7: she's like, they took Spencer away. She was in shock.
Speaker 1: It was like.
Speaker 7: Spence of all people, Spence, Saint Spence. Jennifer wasn't in
Speaker 7: problem solving mode. I think because I was distant from it,
Speaker 7: I could get into problem solving mode.
Speaker 10: My thought was.
Speaker 7: If it's a student, it's going to get around really fast.
Speaker 7: Then my thought was, oh god, the kids, they worshiped
Speaker 7: their father, and that was my thought. I was like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, do they know? How are they going
Speaker 7: to find out? Social media these days? He needs to
Speaker 7: take down his social media like all of this stuff.
Speaker 3: My sister called and said, people are making comments. You've
Speaker 3: got to go in there and take down his account.
Speaker 3: I had never been in his account before. I never
Speaker 3: looked at his phone, his text, his computer, his Facebook nothing. Ever,
Speaker 3: I trusted him with every piece of my being. Never ever,
Speaker 3: ever would I have snooped. But I knew Christy was right.
Speaker 3: So somehow I got into his Facebook account, which got
Speaker 3: me into his email.
Speaker 1: To say what she learned next with shocking would be
Speaker 1: an understatement. The student, well, she was one of dozens
Speaker 1: of affairs that Spencer had been carrying on for years,
Speaker 1: and he was soliciting photos from these women.
Speaker 3: I only had to scroll down one row before the
Speaker 3: pictures of all these naked women were showing up on
Speaker 3: his computer, woman after woman after woman. I literally didn't
Speaker 3: know what was happening. Spence would never want women to
Speaker 3: send him pictures like this. He wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: He was not No one wants to think that the
Speaker 1: person they love that they're married to has a secret life.
Speaker 1: Jen had to face the hard truth her husband had
Speaker 1: betrayed her, not once, but every single day of their relationship.
Speaker 1: Through this podcast, Jen's about to go on a journey
Speaker 1: of discovery she never could have imagined on this season
Speaker 1: of Betrayal, Jen's going to talk to the sexual SA victim,
Speaker 1: who is an adult now.
Speaker 10: The first thing he said to me was, I've never
Speaker 10: done this with a student. I've never felt this way
Speaker 10: about anyone. That's because I love you that we're doing this.
Speaker 1: There were dozens of affairs simultaneously, some women she knew personally,
Speaker 1: like this one.
Speaker 2: I put this because it's not very kind towards myself.
Speaker 7: I was being used, but I really thought that.
Speaker 1: He and even Spencer himself.
Speaker 3: This is a direct pay call from an inmate at
Speaker 3: the Cherokee County Jail, Georgia.
Speaker 1: The lies, affairs, shame, the broken marriage, and stolen innocence.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it all on Betrayal. If
Speaker 1: you'd like to reach out to the Betrayal team, email
Speaker 1: us at Betrayal Pod at gmail dot com. That's Betrayal
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Speaker 1: Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group, in partnership
Speaker 1: with iHeart Podcasts. The show was executive produced by Nancy
Speaker 1: Glass and Jennifer Fason, hosted and produced by me Andrea Gunning,
Speaker 1: written and produced by Kerry Hartman, also produced by Ben Fetterman.
Speaker 1: Our iHeart team is Ali Perry and Jessica Crinchick. Special
Speaker 1: thanks to voice actor Todd Gans. Sound editing and mixing
Speaker 1: done by Matt Tavecchio. Betrayal's theme was composed by Oliver Bains.
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