Speaker 1: This podcast discusses sexual assault. Please take care while listening.
Speaker 1: I want to share a story of a real life
Speaker 1: fairy tale gone horribly wrong, A cautionary tale about a
Speaker 1: marriage so filled with betrayal and deceit that had set
Speaker 1: off a path of destruction that people are still recovering from.
Speaker 1: My name is Andrea Gunning and I'm a podcast producer
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. In the summer of twenty nineteen, I had
Speaker 1: just wrapped up a project when I met a fellow producer,
Speaker 1: Jennifer face In. She pitched a story she thought was
Speaker 1: compelling enough to make something of, and it turns out
Speaker 1: it was her own story. No information this morning about
Speaker 1: a cob County teacher in jail. Spencer Harron, was arrested
Speaker 1: Friday at his home in Ackworth. Harron is currently in
Speaker 1: the cop County Jail on a fifty five thousand dollar bond.
Speaker 1: Spencer was Jennifer's husband of seven years. Twenty years after
Speaker 1: dating in college, the stars seem to align and they
Speaker 1: reconnected when they decided to get sirious. Jennifer moved from
Speaker 1: la where she worked as a television producer, to Acworth, Georgia,
Speaker 1: where Spencer was a popular high school teacher. He was
Speaker 1: also awarded Teacher of the Year twice. We've learned his
Speaker 1: arrest stems from an alleged three year sexual relationship with
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old female student, Investigators saying The team
Speaker 1: says it started back in twenty sixteen when he allegedly
Speaker 1: groped her. It all happened on Kel High School property.
Speaker 1: The school's website lists the forty eight year old as
Speaker 1: the head of the career type department and a coach.
Speaker 1: Jennifer was blindsided. I came home on June first, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Spence didn't greet me. Instead, he was sitting on the
Speaker 1: couch shaking his head. It's all over. It's all over.
Speaker 1: It's all over. Nothing could have been more shocking from
Speaker 1: this popular teacher, respected coach, and loving husband. The arrest
Speaker 1: unlocked terrible secrets about predatory behavior that went against the
Speaker 1: image Spencer Herron fabricated for years, the cheerful neighbor, member
Speaker 1: of the Air National Guard. The truth shook a community,
Speaker 1: devastated his wife, and sent Spencer Herron to prison. I'm
Speaker 1: Andrea Gunning and this is betrayal Episode one. The Perfect Husband.
Speaker 1: Spencer and I met at college. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: in video production and he was the station manager. And
Speaker 1: I'll never forget our first meeting. He said, excuse me,
Speaker 1: do you know what time it? And I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't wear a watch. She said, oh, me either,
Speaker 1: And that was kind of like the Inn and I
Speaker 1: don't know, it was just one of those things. We
Speaker 1: just connected right away. He was a year older than
Speaker 1: I was. In him being the station manager, he seemed
Speaker 1: so cool to me. I remember I tried out for
Speaker 1: anchor that semester and he didn't choose me because he
Speaker 1: was afraid that if he did, everybody would know that
Speaker 1: he liked me. The were college sweethearts, That's what we were.
Speaker 1: We had so much fun. He would always tried to
Speaker 1: do surprises for me or make a mixtape. Every day
Speaker 1: when we would pass by each other in the hallways,
Speaker 1: he would give me a note. He was just very
Speaker 1: attentive and he was very caring. I'm Jeffrey Birch, and
Speaker 1: this is virgin I'm her stepfather and I am her mom.
Speaker 1: She and spent stated in college and she was absolutely
Speaker 1: in love with him, and we loved him too. I'm
Speaker 1: Karen Basin and I'm John Basin. I'm Jen's father and
Speaker 1: I'm Jennifer's stepmother. We thought a lot of it. We
Speaker 1: thought he was a wonderful young man. He had a
Speaker 1: great personality and you know, just a real down to
Speaker 1: earth person, very personable, and michaelbl And a talented fellow.
Speaker 1: I mean he was a musician, and I mean he
Speaker 1: played trumpet very good. Evidently Jennifer's sister Christie. You know,
Speaker 1: when people are in love, they just are beautiful because
Speaker 1: they're themselves and someone just totally accepts them for who
Speaker 1: they are, and they just shine and they're beautiful. Like
Speaker 1: I remember seeing my sister and she was wearing a
Speaker 1: red winter coat. She just looked so beautiful, and it
Speaker 1: was because she was just so in love. I don't
Speaker 1: know when we started calling him Saint Spen's, but there
Speaker 1: were a few reasons why he was wonderful to my sister.
Speaker 1: When he got up, he was like, does anybody need anything,
Speaker 1: or he would go get coffee for my sister. He
Speaker 1: was polite and engaged with my mom and my grandparents.
Speaker 1: He was really curious about everyone, and he just didn't
Speaker 1: do anything wrong. It was my senior year in college
Speaker 1: and I wanted to go out and you know, enjoy
Speaker 1: my friends and have fun. So we broke up, still
Speaker 1: kept in touch. I think I can honestly say I
Speaker 1: broke his heart and he was very sad and tried
Speaker 1: to get me back. And it wasn't that there was
Speaker 1: an anything wrong. It was just not the right time.
Speaker 1: So we remained friends, but eventually went our separate ways.
Speaker 1: My grandmother was upset. She couldn't believe it. She just
Speaker 1: thought Spence was perfect. She thought we were going to
Speaker 1: get married after school. My sister cried, She was like,
Speaker 1: how could you leave this great, perfect guy. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people can't understand, but at the time,
Speaker 1: that's just how I felt. I wanted to explore. We
Speaker 1: dated for a year and a half and it was
Speaker 1: one of those relationships where you realized what a good
Speaker 1: one looks like. She took her communication degree, She got
Speaker 1: into radio and was on the air in Minneapolis. From there,
Speaker 1: she decided that she wanted to see if she could
Speaker 1: get a producing job in California. She just decided, I'm
Speaker 1: going to la and I'm gonna find my mark. Spencer
Speaker 1: and Jennifer stayed in touch for a while, Like a
Speaker 1: lot of couples, in college. They eventually lost touch and
Speaker 1: started their own lives. Jen was on a path, so
Speaker 1: we lost touch after that for a long time. I
Speaker 1: think partly because he was married and had kids, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to respect that and those boundaries in that relationship.
Speaker 1: Jennifer was ambitious. She built an impressive resume and reputation
Speaker 1: as a talented reality show producer and was even nominated
Speaker 1: for three Emmy Awards. You are a Foot to enter
Speaker 1: the courtroom of Judge Judith Schindler. She also worked for
Speaker 1: Judge Judy. In fact, when was nominated for a time Emmy,
Speaker 1: we got to go to New York to walk the
Speaker 1: red carpet. After a few years with Judy, Jennifer made
Speaker 1: her way from daytime to Primetime Tonight. She ended up
Speaker 1: getting a job with Extreme Makeover Home Edition with Ty Pennington,
Speaker 1: so she went all over the country. Jen was making
Speaker 1: her mark in the industry. She could go from Judge
Speaker 1: Judy to Home Makeovers to the Craziness at the Beach.
Speaker 1: One of the ones that I was shocked about was
Speaker 1: she was doing Jersey Shore. That's what Jennifer excels at
Speaker 1: is being able to get along with everybody, keep peace,
Speaker 1: amongst everybody, manage their different personalities and then produce a
Speaker 1: great show. That's what she's good at. Well, Jennifer was
Speaker 1: building an impressive resume. Spencer had built a different life
Speaker 1: back in Georgia. Spence got married, had three great kids,
Speaker 1: and for many years he was the stay at home
Speaker 1: parent who took care of those kids. Kevin, Spence's best friend,
Speaker 1: describe Spence as trustworthy and loyal. He's funny, very charismatic.
Speaker 1: He came from a big family, so you never had
Speaker 1: much like in terms of physical possessions and stuff, so
Speaker 1: we always seemed like a simple person. My name is
Speaker 1: Rod and I've known Spencer since probably nineteen eighty seventy
Speaker 1: sixth grade. Rod and Spencer bonded over shared interests. Our
Speaker 1: high school was pretty small. There was probably one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty people in the graduating class. Sloth like that.
Speaker 1: I think we were both always top students in top popularity.
Speaker 1: I would think Spencer grew up in Avondale Estates, twenty
Speaker 1: minutes east of Atlanta. It's kind of confused. Well, Spence's
Speaker 1: real father, Spence's real mother. They had this other couple
Speaker 1: that was good friends, and both couples I guess you
Speaker 1: could say he's blew it up and married each other.
Speaker 1: And so Spence has step brothers, real brothers and brothers,
Speaker 1: and it was a bunch of It's a little confusing,
Speaker 1: but Spence was part of a big blended family. There
Speaker 1: were six boys altogether. Well, Jennifer was living her best
Speaker 1: life in La Spence was living in Georgia as a
Speaker 1: well regarded video production teacher. Julia Sultziak was one of
Speaker 1: Spencer's students over a decade ago. She still has fond memories.
Speaker 1: My name is Julius. I graduated from cal High School
Speaker 1: in twenty ten. I'm going to refer to him as
Speaker 1: coach Haarn if that's okay. I've never actually called him Spencers,
Speaker 1: So everyone called him co chairn because he was the
Speaker 1: soccer coach. He coached girls soccer. Coachaen was my high
Speaker 1: school video productions teacher, my junior year and senior year
Speaker 1: high school. Everyone who had him loved him. He was
Speaker 1: the fun class, the fun teacher, the fun program. You
Speaker 1: got to be on the announcements, you know, you got
Speaker 1: to work on these cool projects. When Spencer was thirty seven,
Speaker 1: he joined the Air National Guard and became part of
Speaker 1: the band. He was the oldest person in his boot
Speaker 1: camp class and kind of played the role of dad there.
Speaker 1: And then, out of the blue, twenty years later, Jen's
Speaker 1: first love reached out to her on social media. I
Speaker 1: get a message from him on Facebook. He was planning
Speaker 1: his college reunion and saw me like a photo or something,
Speaker 1: so he reached out to me, Hey, how are you,
Speaker 1: how's it going, what are you doing? He told me
Speaker 1: that he had kept up with my career and knew
Speaker 1: I was in LA And honestly, the first thing that
Speaker 1: I wrote to him back was are you still married?
Speaker 1: Because I'm not going to get involved with somebody that's married.
Speaker 1: That's just not me. He wrote me back immediately said
Speaker 1: we split up four years ago. Great. Well, then he says, so,
Speaker 1: I know you travel a lot for work. Are you
Speaker 1: by any chance going to be in New York City
Speaker 1: in December, which was a couple months away. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be there with the Decca group from school.
Speaker 1: I said, no, you know, I don't usually work in
Speaker 1: New York. Then I go to the movies with my
Speaker 1: sister two days later and run into my old boss
Speaker 1: from Extreme Makeover Home Edition, who says what are you
Speaker 1: doing right now? And I said nothing. I was in
Speaker 1: between jobs at the time. He said, okay, I need
Speaker 1: to fly to New York and you need to help
Speaker 1: me out with this show. Said okay, great, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: Hopped on a plane and flew out there. So I
Speaker 1: emailed Spence and said, hey, guess what, I'm here. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be here for about a month, and he said, great,
Speaker 1: I would love to see you when you're here, and
Speaker 1: maybe you could even come and speak to the students.
Speaker 1: So I agreed to do that. One afternoon, rushed home
Speaker 1: from work changed try to look as cute as possible.
Speaker 1: You know, it's December now in New York and hard
Speaker 1: to get a taxi at that time of night, so
Speaker 1: I was running late. The taxi drops me off about
Speaker 1: two blocks from the hotel because I just figured I
Speaker 1: can get there faster if I walk. So I walk
Speaker 1: in there and he's kind of leaning up against the wall,
Speaker 1: all kind of cool, and he sees me, and I
Speaker 1: think both of our faces just light up and gives
Speaker 1: me a big hug, and I just I remember thinking, wow,
Speaker 1: he looks really good. I just I got butterflies. I
Speaker 1: was excited to see him again. And then he and
Speaker 1: I went and walked around New York and talked and
Speaker 1: learned about each other again, and we sat in this
Speaker 1: cute little speakeasy bar. I noticed his sleeve kind of
Speaker 1: came up on his jacket, and I saw he had tattoos.
Speaker 1: And now I'm not a tattooed person, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: this was so sexy to me. You know, now he
Speaker 1: was cool and everything. I remembered, everything I remembered. The
Speaker 1: two of them walked the city all night long, just
Speaker 1: talking and talking and talking, and that's when they said
Speaker 1: they just fell in love all over again. I was
Speaker 1: on cloud nine. He walked me back to my hotel room. Yes,
Speaker 1: he came inside. No, I don't usually do that, but
Speaker 1: it was Spence, and I always felt safe with Spence.
Speaker 1: I asked him if he could stay, and he said no,
Speaker 1: I have to go back because he had to go
Speaker 1: back to his student's And the next morning I woke
Speaker 1: up and I called my best friend crying because I
Speaker 1: was so sad that I may never see him again.
Speaker 1: I really thought that was it, and something in me
Speaker 1: was really sad about that. But that's not what happened.
Speaker 1: The whole New York trip was serendipitous. After twenty years apart,
Speaker 1: Jen and Spencer were reconnected, and this time Spencer was
Speaker 1: not going to lose her. He continued to pursue me
Speaker 1: and text me and call me from Atlanta to LA.
Speaker 1: We would be up all night on the phone. So
Speaker 1: she went back to LA. He went back to Atlanta
Speaker 1: area and they continue with their phone conversations. He had
Speaker 1: called us and said that he wanted to marry Jennifer,
Speaker 1: and he asked for permission. We said, we've always felt
Speaker 1: like your part of the family. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: need to ask us, you just need to ask her.
Speaker 1: I said, the only thing we ask of you is
Speaker 1: that you go to LA and you visit Jennifer and
Speaker 1: you see what kind of lifestyle that she was living,
Speaker 1: because she was very, very successful in her career, very
Speaker 1: successful financially, I'm very established. And so he said, okay,
Speaker 1: he would do that because he was going to be
Speaker 1: asking her to possibly move to this small little down
Speaker 1: in Georgia, pulling her away from LA. And that was
Speaker 1: a concern that we had too. Would she be able
Speaker 1: to adjustice that fair to her as that going to
Speaker 1: affect her career, So we re met in December twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: We made the decision pretty quickly that I would move
Speaker 1: out there, and I didn't mind doing that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it meant giving up a lot. My career was doing great.
Speaker 1: I'd really established myself, which in hindsight is a good
Speaker 1: thing because I was able to move to Atlanta and
Speaker 1: keep working. But his kids were there and that was
Speaker 1: important to him, and being a stepchild myself, it was
Speaker 1: important to me that he stay as close to the
Speaker 1: kids as he could. So I decided I would move there.
Speaker 1: I packed up my whole apartment and then he flew
Speaker 1: out and we drove my car across the country. Our
Speaker 1: first stop was Vegas. He gave me this booklet and
Speaker 1: in it were all these photos of the two of us,
Speaker 1: some of them from college and then some from New
Speaker 1: York and just you know, when we had seen each
Speaker 1: other since. And at the very end was a picture
Speaker 1: of my grandmother's ring that he had gotten from my mom.
Speaker 1: He got down on one knee and he asked me
Speaker 1: to marry him, and I was so excited. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be able to remember exactly what it felt like
Speaker 1: and what it sounded like, so I said, can you
Speaker 1: ask me again, and he just laughed and he asked
Speaker 1: me again, and of course I said yes. It was
Speaker 1: everything that I could have wanted. It was like a movie,
Speaker 1: all of the thought and effort Spencer put into their engagement.
Speaker 1: She waited so long for love. They were so sweet together.
Speaker 1: Like he was very demonstrative with his affection towards her.
Speaker 1: You know, he would say, look at Jenn, Look how
Speaker 1: cute she looks today. He was always very proud to
Speaker 1: talk about her and about her accomplishments and things like that.
Speaker 1: He would walk by her and just kiss her on
Speaker 1: the top of the head, you know, just was very sweet.
Speaker 1: And their little love story was very sweet, and they
Speaker 1: loved to tell it. She was traveling, you know, producing
Speaker 1: a show and coming back, he would always walk in and,
Speaker 1: you know, hug her and say, so glad you're home.
Speaker 1: Dinner's friend, Danielle. I mean, he would just say, like, hey, wife,
Speaker 1: you know, and he was so proud of that. He
Speaker 1: was such a doting husband. Every morning he would leave
Speaker 1: me a note by the coffee pot. Every single morning
Speaker 1: for six seven years, he would text me during the day.
Speaker 1: I'd never worried about where he was or what he
Speaker 1: was doing. I really really thought we were living a
Speaker 1: fairy tale. Every time the clock would turn on eleven eleven,
Speaker 1: I would make a wish, and ever since Spence and
Speaker 1: I got back together in New York, the wish was,
Speaker 1: I hope Spence and I have a beautiful, long life together.
Speaker 1: When the bottom drops out, you usually don't see it coming,
Speaker 1: and Jennifer never did. I came home on June first,
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and Spence did and greet me instead. He
Speaker 1: was sitting on the couch in the living room just
Speaker 1: shaking his head. So I was joking around with him
Speaker 1: because he didn't jump up and say wife, welcome back.
Speaker 1: And I walked over to him and he just kept
Speaker 1: shaking his head. It's all over, it's all over, it's
Speaker 1: all over. I kept expecting him to say, oh, just kidding,
Speaker 1: because what could be that wrong that he would be
Speaker 1: feeling this way. He slid a piece of paper to me.
Speaker 1: I just kind of glanced at it, trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what it was, and it said search Warren on top.
Speaker 1: I saw the words sexual assault and student. Police arrested
Speaker 1: kel High School teacher Spencer Harron on Friday at his
Speaker 1: home in Atworth. Investigators say he faces three counts of
Speaker 1: sexual assault. Imagine seeing that piece of paper, the search Warren,
Speaker 1: and knowing that everything in your life was out to change.
Speaker 1: He was charged with sexual assault with one of his
Speaker 1: own students. It had started when she was a sophomore
Speaker 1: in high school. I got up and stood in front
Speaker 1: of him and said, is this true? He said yes,
Speaker 1: he said it happened three times dispenses. The last person
Speaker 1: that I would have ever guessed would have taken advantage
Speaker 1: of a kid, And I think anybody else that knew
Speaker 1: him would have said the same thing. To find out
Speaker 1: that he cheated on me, not with a woman, but
Speaker 1: with a sixteen year old girl, it is so hard
Speaker 1: to understand that I just started pacing back and forth,
Speaker 1: telling him he ruined everything. He knew how much marriage
Speaker 1: meant to me, He knew what it meant to me.
Speaker 1: I thought I knew what it meant to him. I
Speaker 1: set across from him at that point because I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be near him, just trying to make sense
Speaker 1: of what just happened. In realizing that life as I
Speaker 1: knew it would never be the same. The future that
Speaker 1: we planned was gone. It couldn't be true. Not her husband,
Speaker 1: the nicest, kindest man in the world. A predator. Not possible,
Speaker 1: except it was possible. It happened. It didn't take too
Speaker 1: long before I saw two Cobb County police officers drive
Speaker 1: past our house. I knew they were on their way
Speaker 1: back for Spence. They had already been there once with
Speaker 1: the search warrant and busted down our front door. They
Speaker 1: took a bunch of his stuff, his computers, hard drives,
Speaker 1: and a pair of his underwear. All Spence could talk
Speaker 1: about was killing himself at that point. So I sat
Speaker 1: down on the coffee table right in front of him
Speaker 1: where he was sitting on the couch, and I just
Speaker 1: begged him not to do anything stupid. Her life was upended,
Speaker 1: Her husband was sitting across from her talking about suicide.
Speaker 1: It was all so scary and so much to digest.
Speaker 1: Jen felt conflicted by a feeling of obligation to Spence
Speaker 1: because of the vows they took. Jennifer repeat after me, I, Jennifer, I,
Speaker 1: Jennifer say the Spencer, take the Spencer to be my
Speaker 1: wedded husband, To be my wedded husband. I wanted him
Speaker 1: to know that somebody would be there for him. From
Speaker 1: this day we were married. You're supposed to stick by
Speaker 1: your spouse for better or worse, for better, for worse,
Speaker 1: till death do us part, till death do us part.
Speaker 1: The cops came. I opened up the door and looked
Speaker 1: across to Spence and was so relieved when I saw
Speaker 1: him walking into the foyer, because if he had run,
Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened. But he turned around.
Speaker 1: He let them put the cuffs on him. Even after
Speaker 1: seeing the words sexual assault and student on the search warrant,
Speaker 1: Jennifer still needed to hear the police say it. I said,
Speaker 1: what are you arresting him for? They looked at him like,
Speaker 1: is it okay if we tell her? And he yells
Speaker 1: out no, don't tell her anything, which is weird because
Speaker 1: he'd already admitted what he had done. I guess he
Speaker 1: was still hoping to hide stuff. They walked him out
Speaker 1: of the house. I shut the door and I couldn't
Speaker 1: watch them put him in the back of the car.
Speaker 1: And the four year was the last time I've seen him.
Speaker 1: Jennifer was trying to process what had just happened. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: what she learned that day was only the tip of
Speaker 1: the iceberg. I was on a walk one morning and
Speaker 1: I just thought, I need to call Jennifer. When I
Speaker 1: got home, I called her. She picked up the phone
Speaker 1: and she was like in hysterics and I was like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong, and she's like, they took Spencer away. She
Speaker 1: wasn't shock. It was like Spence of all people, Spence,
Speaker 1: Saint Spence. Jennifer wasn't a problem solving mode. I think
Speaker 1: because I was distant from it, I could get into
Speaker 1: problem solving mode. My thought was, if it's a student,
Speaker 1: it's going to get around really fast. Then my thought was,
Speaker 1: oh god, the kids, they worshiped their father, and that
Speaker 1: was my thought. I was like, oh my god, do
Speaker 1: they know? How are they going to find out social
Speaker 1: media these days? He needs to take down his social
Speaker 1: media like all of this stuff. My sister called and said,
Speaker 1: people are making comments. You've got to go in there
Speaker 1: and take down his account. I had never been in
Speaker 1: his account before. I never looked at his phone, his text,
Speaker 1: his computer, his Facebook, nothing. Ever, I trusted him with
Speaker 1: every piece of my being. Never ever, ever would I
Speaker 1: have snooped. But I knew Christy was right. So somehow
Speaker 1: I got into his Facebook account, which got me into
Speaker 1: his email to say what she learned next with shocking
Speaker 1: would be an understatement. The student, well, she was one
Speaker 1: of dozens of affairs that Spencer had been carrying on
Speaker 1: for years, and he was soliciting photos from these women.
Speaker 1: I only had to scroll down one row before the
Speaker 1: pictures of all these naked women were showing up on
Speaker 1: his computer, woman after woman after woman. I literally didn't
Speaker 1: know what was happening. Spence would never want women to
Speaker 1: send him pictures like this. He wasn't like that. He
Speaker 1: was not. No one wants to think that the person
Speaker 1: they love that they're married too, has a secret life.
Speaker 1: Jen had to face the hard truth her husband had
Speaker 1: betrayed her, not once, but every single day of their relationship.
Speaker 1: Through this podcast, Jen's about to go on a journey
Speaker 1: of discovery she never could have imagined on this season
Speaker 1: of Betrayal, Jen's going to talk to the sexual saw victim,
Speaker 1: who is an adult now. The first thing he said
Speaker 1: to me was, I've never done this with a student.
Speaker 1: I've never felt this way about anyone. It's because I
Speaker 1: love you that we're doing those. There were dozens of
Speaker 1: affairs simultaneously, Some women she knew personally like this. One
Speaker 1: put this because it's not very kind towards myself. I
Speaker 1: was being used, but I really thought that he loved
Speaker 1: me and even Spencer himself. This is a direct pay
Speaker 1: call from an inmate at the Cherokee County Jail, Georgia.
Speaker 1: The lies, affairs, shame, the broken marriage, and stolen innocence.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it all on Betrayal. If
Speaker 1: you'd like to reach out to the Betrayal team, email
Speaker 1: us at Betrayal Pod at gmail dot com. That's Betrayal
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Speaker 1: with iHeart Podcasts. The show was executive produced by Nancy
Speaker 1: Glass and Jennifer Facon, hosted and produced by me Andrea Gunning,
Speaker 1: written and produced by Carry Hartman, also produced by Ben Fetterman.
Speaker 1: Our iHeart team is Ali Perry and Jessica Crinchek. Special
Speaker 1: thanks to voice actor Todd Gans. Sound editing and mixing
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