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Speaker 1: This podcast discusses sexual assault. Please take care while listening.

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Speaker 1: I want to share a story of a real life

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Speaker 1: fairy tale gone horribly wrong, A cautionary tale about a

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Speaker 1: marriage so filled with betrayal and deceit that it set

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Speaker 1: off a path of destruction that people are still recovering from.

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Speaker 1: My name is Andrea Gunning and I'm a podcast producer

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. In the summer of twenty nineteen, I had

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Speaker 1: just wrapped up a project when I met a fellow producer,

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Fasin. She pitched a story she thought was compelling

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Speaker 1: enough to make something of, and it turns out it

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Speaker 1: was her own story.

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Speaker 2: Information this Morning about a cop County teacher in jail.

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Speaker 2: Spencer Haron was arrested Friday at his home in Ackworth.

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Speaker 2: Haaren is currently in the cop County jail on a

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Speaker 2: fifty five thousand dollars bond.

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Speaker 1: Spencer was Jennifer's husband of seven years. Twenty years after

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Speaker 1: dating in college, the stars seem to align and they

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Speaker 1: reconnected when they decided to get sirious. Jennifer moved from

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Speaker 1: la where she worked as a television producer, to Ackworth, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: where Spencer was a popular high school teacher. He was

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Speaker 1: also awarded Teacher of the Year twice.

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Speaker 2: We've learned his arrest stems from an alleged three year

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Speaker 2: sexual relationship with a sixteen year old female student, Investigators

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Speaker 2: saying The team says it started back in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: when he allegedly groped her. It all happened on Kel

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Speaker 2: High School property. The school's website lists the forty eight

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Speaker 2: year old as the head of the career tech department

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Speaker 2: and a coach.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer was blindsided.

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Speaker 3: I came home on June first, twenty eighteen. Spence didn't

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Speaker 3: greet me. Instead, he was sitting on the couch shaking

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Speaker 3: his head. It's all over. It's all over. It's all over.

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Speaker 1: Nothing could have been more shocking from this popular teacher,

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Speaker 1: respected coach, and loving husband. The arrest unlocked terrible secrets

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Speaker 1: about predatory behavior that went against the image Spencer Heron

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Speaker 1: fabricated for years, the cheerful neighbor, member of the Air

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Speaker 1: National Guard. The truth shook a community, devastated his wife,

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Speaker 1: and sent Spencer Heron to prison. I'm Andrea Gunning and

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Speaker 1: this is betrayal Episode one. The perfect husband.

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Speaker 4: Spencer and I met at college.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be in video production and he was

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Speaker 4: And I'll never forget our first meeting.

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Speaker 3: He said, excuse me, do you know what time? And

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Speaker 3: I said, oh, I don't wear a watch. She said, oh,

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Speaker 3: me either, and that was kind of like the Inn

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Speaker 3: and I don't know, it was just one of those things.

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Speaker 3: We just connected right away. He was a year older

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Speaker 3: than I was. In him being the station manager, he

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Speaker 3: seems so cool to me. I remember I tried out

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Speaker 3: for anchor that semester and he didn't choose me because

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Speaker 3: he was afraid that if he did, everybody would know

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Speaker 3: that he liked me. The word college sweethearts, that's what

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Speaker 3: we were. We had so much fun. He had always

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Speaker 3: try to do surprises for me or make a mixtape.

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Speaker 3: Every day when we would pass by each other in

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Speaker 3: the hallways, he would give me a note. He was

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Speaker 3: just very attentive and he was very caring.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jeffrey Birch and this is Berg.

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Speaker 1: I'm her stepfather and I.

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Speaker 5: Am her mom. She and Spence stated in college, and

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Speaker 5: she was absolutely in love with him, and we loved

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Speaker 5: him too.

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Speaker 6: I'm Karen Bason and I'm John Fason. I'm Jenn's father

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Speaker 6: and I'm Jennifer's stepmother.

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Speaker 3: We thought a lot of it.

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Speaker 4: We thought it was a wonderful young man.

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Speaker 6: He had a great personality and you know, just a

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Speaker 6: real down thearth person, very personable and michable and a

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Speaker 6: talented fellow. I mean he was a musician, and I

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Speaker 6: mean he played trumpet very good, evidently.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer's sister Christy.

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Speaker 7: You know, when people are in love, they just are

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Speaker 7: beautiful because they're themselves and someone just totally accepts them

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Speaker 7: for who they are, and they just shine and they're beautiful.

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Speaker 7: Like I remember seeing my sister and she was wearing

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Speaker 7: a red winter coat. She just looked so beautiful, and

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Speaker 7: it was because she was just so in love. I

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Speaker 7: don't know when we started calling him Saint Spence, but

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Speaker 7: my sister. When he got up, he was like, does

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Speaker 3: It was my senior year in college and I wanted

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Speaker 3: have fun. So we broke up, still kept in touch.

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Speaker 3: I think I can honestly say I broke his heart

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Speaker 3: and he was very sad and tried to get me back.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't that there was any anything wrong. It

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Speaker 3: was just not the right time. So we remained friends,

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Speaker 3: but eventually went our separate ways. My grandmother was upset.

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Speaker 3: She couldn't believe it. She just thought Spence was perfect.

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Speaker 3: She thought we were going to get married after school.

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Speaker 3: My sister cried, She was like, how could you leave

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Speaker 3: this great, perfect guy. You know, a lot of people

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Speaker 3: can't understand, but at the time, that's just how I felt.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to explore. We dated for a year and

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Speaker 3: a half and it was one of those relationships where

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Speaker 5: She took her communication degree, She got into radio and

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Speaker 5: was on the air in Minneapolis. From there, she decided

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Speaker 1: Spencer and Jennifer stayed in touch for a while. Like

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Speaker 1: a lot of couples in college, they eventually lost touch

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Speaker 1: and started their own lives.

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Speaker 3: Jen was on a path, so we lost touch after

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Speaker 3: that for a long time. I think partly because he

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Speaker 3: was married and had kids, and I wanted to respect

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Speaker 3: that and those boundaries in that relationship.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer was ambitious. She built an impressive resume and reputation

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Speaker 3: You Are Afoot Too entered the court room of Judge

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Speaker 5: She also worked for Judge Judy. In fact, when was

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Speaker 1: After a few years with Judy, Jennifer made her way

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Speaker 5: She ended up getting a job with Extreme Makeover Home

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Speaker 5: Edition with Ty Pennington, so she went all over the country.

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Speaker 1: Jen was making her mark in the industry. She could

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Speaker 1: go from Judge Judy to Homemakeovers to the Craziness at

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Speaker 5: One of the ones that I was shocked about was

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Speaker 5: she was doing Jersey Shore. That's what Jennifer excels at

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Speaker 5: is being able to get along with everybody. Keep peace,

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Speaker 1: Well, Jennifer was building an impressive resume. Spencer had built

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Speaker 1: a different life back in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Spence got married, had three great kids, and for many

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Speaker 3: years he was the stay at home parent who took

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Speaker 1: Kevin, Spence's best friend, described Spence as trustworthy and loyal.

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Speaker 8: It was funny, very charismatic if he came from a

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Speaker 8: a simple person. My name is Rod and I've known

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Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty so eighty sixth grade. Rod and Spencer bonded

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Speaker 1: over shared interests. Our high school was pretty small.

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Speaker 8: There was probably one hundred and fifty people in the

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Speaker 1: I think we were both always pop students in top popularity.

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Speaker 1: I would think Spencer grew up in Avondale Estates, twenty

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Speaker 9: It's kind of Cony Well.

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Speaker 6: Spence's real father, Spencer's real mother. They had this other

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Speaker 6: couple that was good friends, and both couples I guess

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Speaker 6: you could say he split up and married each other.

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Speaker 6: And so Spence has step brothers, real brothers and half brothers, and.

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Speaker 1: There was a bunch of It's a little confusing, but

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Speaker 1: Spence was part of a big blended family. There were

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Speaker 1: six boys altogether. Well, Jennifer was living her best life

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Speaker 1: in La Spence was living in Georgia as a well

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Speaker 1: regarded video production teacher. Julia Sultziak was one of Spencer's

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Speaker 1: students over a decade ago. She still has fond memories.

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Speaker 10: My name is Julia. I graduated from cal High School

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Speaker 10: in twenty ten. I'm going to refer to him as

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Speaker 10: coach Haaren, if that's okay. I've never actually called him

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Speaker 10: Spencer's so everyone called him co Charan because he was

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Speaker 10: the soccer coach.

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Speaker 10: Co Charan was my high school video productions teacher, my

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Speaker 10: loved him. He was the fun class, the fun teacher,

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Speaker 10: the fund program. You got to be on the announcements,

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Speaker 10: you know, you got to work on these cool projects.

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Speaker 1: When Spencer was thirty seven, he joined the Air National

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Speaker 3: I get a message from him on Facebook. He was

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Speaker 3: planning his college reunion and saw me like a photo

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Speaker 3: told me that he had kept up with my career

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Speaker 3: and knew I was in LA And honestly, the first

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Speaker 3: still married? Because I'm not going to get involved with

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Speaker 3: somebody that's married. That's just not me. He wrote me

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Speaker 3: back immediately said we split up four years ago. Great. Well,

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Speaker 3: then he says, so, I know you travel a lot

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Speaker 3: the Decca group from school. I said, no, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't usually work in New York. Then I go

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Speaker 3: run into my old boss from Extreme Makeover Home Edition,

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Speaker 3: Said okay, great, I'll do it, hopped on a plane

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Speaker 3: and flew out there. So I emailed Spence and said, hey,

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Speaker 3: about a month, and he said, great, I would love

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Speaker 3: even come and speak to the students. So I agreed

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Speaker 3: to do that. One afternoon, rushed home from work changed

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Speaker 3: tried to look as cute as possible. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: The taxi drops me off about two blocks from the

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Speaker 3: if I walk. So I walk in there and he's

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Speaker 3: and I just I remember thinking, wow, he looks really good.

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Speaker 3: I just I got butterflies. I was excited to see

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Speaker 3: You know, he would say, look at jen Look how

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Speaker 3: And their little love story was very sweet, and they

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Speaker 1: Jennifer's friend Danielle. I mean, he would just say, like, hey, wife,

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Speaker 3: He was such a doting husband. Every morning he would

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Speaker 1: When the bottom drops out, you usually don't see it coming,

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Speaker 3: I came home on June first, twenty eighteen, and Spence

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Speaker 9: Studentlis arrested Kel High school teacher Spencer Herron on Friday

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Speaker 1: Imagine seeing that piece of paper, the search worn, and

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Speaker 3: I got up and stood in front of him and said,

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Speaker 4: He said yes, He said it happened three times.

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Speaker 3: This Spens is the last person that I would have

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Speaker 11: He ruined everything. He knew how much marriage meant to me,

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Speaker 3: In realizing that life as I knew it would never

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Speaker 1: It couldn't be true. Not her husband the nicest, kindest

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Speaker 3: It didn't take too long before I saw two Cobb

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Speaker 3: All Spence could talk about was killing himself at that point.

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Speaker 1: Her life was upended, Her husband was sitting across from

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Speaker 1: Jennifer repeated after me, I Jennifer.

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Speaker 3: I Jennifer the Spencer. Take the Spencer to be my

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Speaker 4: We were married, They're supposed to.

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Speaker 3: Stick by your spouse for better or worse, for better,

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Speaker 4: I opened up the door and looked across to Spence

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Speaker 3: But he turned around.

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Speaker 1: Even after seeing the words sexual assault and student on

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Speaker 3: I said, what are you arresting him for? They looked

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Speaker 1: Jennifer was trying to process what had just happened. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 7: I was on a walk one morning, and I just thought,

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Speaker 7: Spence of all people, Spence, Saint Spence. Jennifer wasn't in

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Speaker 10: My thought was.

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Speaker 7: Then my thought was, oh god, the kids, they worshiped

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Speaker 3: My sister called and said, people are making comments. You've

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Speaker 3: I had never been in his account before. I never

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Speaker 3: So somehow I got into his Facebook account, which got

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Speaker 1: To say what she learned next with shocking would be

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Speaker 3: I only had to scroll down one row before the

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Speaker 1: Jen had to face the hard truth her husband had

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Speaker 1: betrayed her, not once, but every single day of their relationship.

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Speaker 1: Through this podcast, Jen's about to go on a journey

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Speaker 1: of discovery she never could have imagined on this season

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Speaker 1: of Betrayal, Jen's going to talk to the sexual SA victim,

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Speaker 1: who is an adult now.

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Speaker 10: The first thing he said to me was, I've never

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Speaker 10: done this with a student. I've never felt this way

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Speaker 10: about anyone. That's because I love you that we're doing this.

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Speaker 1: There were dozens of affairs simultaneously, some women she knew personally,

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Speaker 1: like this one.

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Speaker 2: I put this because it's not very kind towards myself.

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Speaker 7: I was being used, but I really thought that.

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Speaker 1: He and even Spencer himself.

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Speaker 3: This is a direct pay call from an inmate at

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Speaker 3: the Cherokee County Jail, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: The lies, affairs, shame, the broken marriage, and stolen innocence.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it all on Betrayal. If

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Speaker 1: you'd like to reach out to the Betrayal team, email

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Speaker 1: us at Betrayal Pod at gmail dot com. That's Betrayal

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Speaker 1: Pod at gmail dot com. Betrayal is a production of

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Speaker 1: Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group, in partnership

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Speaker 1: with iHeart Podcasts. The show was executive produced by Nancy

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Speaker 1: Glass and Jennifer Fason, hosted and produced by me Andrea Gunning,

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Speaker 1: written and produced by Kerry Hartman, also produced by Ben Fetterman.

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Speaker 1: Our iHeart team is Ali Perry and Jessica Crinchick. Special

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Speaker 1: thanks to voice actor Todd Gans. Sound editing and mixing

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Speaker 1: done by Matt Tavecchio. Betrayal's theme was composed by Oliver Bains.

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Speaker 1: Music library provided by my Music And For more podcasts

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Speaker 1: from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever

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