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Speaker 1: One week into the new league year and really not

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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calvec joins me,

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Speaker 1: help me get caught up on all that has happened

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Speaker 1: thus far. No question, GM Monty Austin Ford has been

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Speaker 1: very busy, including earlier on Monday. It's not waste any time.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven thirty six, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Who to Baker?

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Speaker 1: What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 1: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolo.

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Speaker 1: See you go for a week, and well you miss

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Speaker 1: a lot seven players re sign seven players signed, one

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Speaker 1: player acquired, plus a handful of goodbyes. But the biggest

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Speaker 1: news I missed, Paul, you have breaking news, a brand

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Speaker 1: new addition to the family.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, congratulations, No, it's not congratulations because in this

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Speaker 3: election year, Craig Grailu. I lost. I lost to Cosa

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Speaker 3: Calvic three to one was the final vote. I tried hard,

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Speaker 3: used a lot of resources trying to lobby the seventeen

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Speaker 3: Coso Calvic And yeah, Craig appreciate it, honestly, especially after

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Speaker 3: that intro. We were hopeful, since you weren't here last week,

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Speaker 3: so here we go.

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Speaker 1: You're not that lucky. By the way, does the four

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Speaker 3: So? It was rescue dog from the shelter they named you.

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Speaker 3: They named him Marty. Marty East Chihuahua with a Wiener's

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Speaker 3: dead ringer for the Taco Bell dog. So Marty. Then

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Speaker 3: watching The Highwaymen with Kevin Costner and Woody Harrelson on

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Speaker 3: and one of the characters was named Poncho, which means

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Speaker 3: free in Spanish. If I'm not mistaken, I'm thinking, all right,

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Speaker 3: Madness bracket of names that we have to decide on

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Speaker 3: right now. Craig, your poor dog is not gonna tell

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Speaker 1: Well it fits right in with the rest of you.

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Speaker 1: Right then, don't listen to you, paulsa It's it's right.

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Speaker 3: I used to say because my wife, let's just say,

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Speaker 1: Well, good for you, hey, rescue dogs, so congratulations, good

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Speaker 1: last week might be the best news for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: And dare I say the entire NFC West all Aaron

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Speaker 3: That's right, yes, And Kyler said it, well, please don't

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Speaker 3: In what's hilarious is and you go back and you

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Speaker 1: Ten years in the league, every single season, ending with

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Speaker 1: we say that with a smile and all due respects.

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Speaker 3: Well, for example, the super rookie for the Rams. Last year,

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Speaker 3: he said, they broke the huddle. He yes, this dude's tiny, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, Paris Johnson Junior, part of his rookie season

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Speaker 1: It's a good lead in here on Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, partner of the Arizona Cardinals, to discuss

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Speaker 1: us that, yes, the line of scrimmage, especially on the

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Speaker 1: But no question of the eight free agent moves, including

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Speaker 3: And we talked about it all off season. Okay, you

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Speaker 3: serious dire needs, just in terms of numbers in terms

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Speaker 3: the opposite, Right, remember that Seinfeld episode where George decides

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Speaker 3: I have in my room last year a lot of

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Speaker 3: And it's sort of like, you know, you ever own

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Speaker 3: being a Lemon? Right? Are you gonna buy that brand again?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: So there's Manias Sifort. He goes out into the open

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Speaker 3: you're gonna pencil in his starters, at least as of

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Speaker 3: right now. With a long track record of longevity and reliability.

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Speaker 1: Justin Jones started every game the past two seasons, Ball

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Speaker 1: Quote with the baddest mofos walking end quote that's language.

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Speaker 1: Those are words, Paul, that I applaud haven't really heard

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Speaker 1: But bringing in new names, new voices for hopefully a

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Speaker 3: Attention jim O Mahunter and Cody Fincher, the out of

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Speaker 3: That versatility. Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rowlis talk about that,

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Speaker 3: have the horses, especially along the defensive line. Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: draft a wide receiver at some point in this draft,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not at number four.

433
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Speaker 3: Do we truly have a handle on the identity of

434
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Speaker 3: this football team that mantiasin Ford is building, Because look

435
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: at Jim Harbaugh, who has a long track record in

436
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: the NFL, especially obviously with the forty nine ers. What's

437
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: the first thing he did when he walked in with

438
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 3: the Chargers said, you know what, Mike Williams salary cap casually,

439
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 3: you know what Keenan Allen, we can do without you,

440
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: even though he just turned into career year. They're without

441
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: a top receiver right now, the LA Chargers, and they

442
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: don't seem too concerned about it. So I throw that

443
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: out there, combined with the following question, if Marvin Arrisons

444
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: is truly this generational talent, this consensus best wide receiver

445
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: to come out of the draft in X number of years,

446
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: then why isn't he even the first receiver off the

447
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: board and many of the mock drafts, why is there

448
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: even a debate? Daniel Jeremiah tweeting out to start this week,

449
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if Malik Neighbors ended up being

450
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: the first wide receiver off the board. I love Marvin

451
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior and a Dunzay Daniel Jeremiah continues, but Neighbors

452
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: brings a different element. It'll come down to preference of style.

453
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: But I guarantee some teams will have Neighbors at the

454
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Speaker 3: top of the list. Chris Simms, who can be a

455
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: bit of a hot take factory, Okay, he is his

456
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: ranking of the top receivers Moleak Neighbors, Brian Thomas Junior two,

457
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior three, Roma Dunza four. I'm not here

458
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: to tell you which one is going to be the

459
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Speaker 3: number one receiver in this draft. I'm just saying, if

460
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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior is such a slam donk, why isn't

461
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 3: he number one in the eyes of a lot of

462
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: these experts. So I tend to think that it's a

463
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: lot of group think out there that the Cardinals should

464
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: go Marvin Rson Junior at four. Not that that's a

465
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: bad selection if they determine and all the research and

466
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: their evaluation says he's the guy. Great, But if someone

467
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: is offer from you the moon and the stars to

468
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: move out a number four, and for example, a Brian

469
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: Thomas who seems to be this week's wide receiver rising,

470
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 3: you know, the guy who's flying up the draft boards

471
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: without playing a game, And there he is at six

472
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: three two oh nine. All the testings through the roof

473
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: and he ran a four to three to three, and

474
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: he had more touchdown catches for LSU than Malik Neighbors.

475
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: He had seventeen to lead the SEC. All of a sudden,

476
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Speaker 3: you get a guy like that who falls. Just throwing

477
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: that out there, and I'm wondering what the ultimate thinking

478
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Speaker 3: of maniasin Ford is.

479
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Speaker 1: Well, just remember the Cardinals current number one wide receiver

480
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: right now, Michael Wilson was a third round pick. So

481
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: you can find wide receivers. I know you've got that

482
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: list at the ready. When you talk about Puka Nakua bound,

483
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm on Saint Romp, but I'll get it eventually. But

484
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: you can find those receivers, and then if you believe

485
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Speaker 1: in your quarterback can elevate those receivers, then maybe it's

486
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Speaker 1: not such a hot take. Now it would be disappointing

487
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: for a lot of the burg gang if that is

488
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: indeed what happens with pick number four. But there are

489
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Speaker 1: a number of wide receivers, all with size, all with

490
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: good speed. Can you catch the ball? Can you catch

491
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: the ball? And traffic and none of this is going

492
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Speaker 1: to be known for at least three or four years

493
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Speaker 1: down the road. But if you believe in what money

494
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: did a year ago, you believe what he sees in

495
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: his scouting department, then you have to trust in the

496
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Speaker 1: decision maker and you go. Okay, it might not be

497
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Speaker 1: the popular decision. The popular choice. You might even disagree

498
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: with it, but he's the man in charge and it's

499
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: his decision ultimately and what he will be ultimately judged

500
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Speaker 1: upon the success of that decision.

501
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Speaker 3: Here's something else I'll throw out when it comes to

502
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: the receiver position. Why was Michael Wilson the starter as

503
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: a third round rookie last season right out of the

504
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: gates in Washington because he's able to block in the

505
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: run game. Would Jonathan Gannon believe it? No block, no rock,

506
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: That's the way it works. Guess what, Ron Dell Moore

507
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: is no longer part of this team. Hollywood Brown no

508
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: longer part of this team now. Jonathan Gannon, I think

509
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: was sincere and genuine and saying that he really appreciates

510
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: the skill set of a Hollywood Brown and how he

511
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: keeps defensive coordinators honest if not up at night getting

512
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: ready for that Sunday game. But those two guys obviously

513
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: didn't bring a lot in terms of blocking for the

514
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Speaker 3: run game. And this is a team that ran for

515
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 3: over two hundred yards and three of the last four

516
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: games ended up Top five, and virtually every rushing Metro.

517
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: I just think once again, the identity on the offensive

518
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 3: side of the ball we're now talking is more run

519
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: than you might imagine. Yes, you have a dynamic passer

520
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: in Kyler Murray, but I think they're looking for those

521
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: bigger receivers who are willing to lower the shoulder pads,

522
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: get dirty and nasty in the run game, and then

523
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: earn those targets in the past game.

524
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to what happened in that first wave

525
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: of free agency and the number of players that were added,

526
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: and we go back to the availability on game day,

527
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: not missing games. We're only missing a couple of games.

528
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: There is a type of person that MANI and JG

529
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: want in this building and a type of player as well.

530
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Speaker 1: And when it comes to the wide receiver position, there

531
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Speaker 1: is a clear direction based off the move of trading

532
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: Rondell Moore to the Falcons, based off of Hollywood Brown

533
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: not being brought back here to the Arizona Cardinals, and

534
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: that is a bigger wide receiver. With the addition of

535
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: Chris Moore on Monday, the wide receiver room is now

536
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: nine deep, and that includes Greg Dortch, who has yet

537
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: to sign his tender, but he's not going anywhere find

538
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: American only Dortch and Andre Bachellia speaking of fine dimnute

539
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: to Americans. Those are the only wide receivers in that room,

540
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: two of nine that are under six foot tall. Really

541
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Speaker 1: everyone else is at least six foot or taller, okay,

542
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: and one again taller wide receiver. Harder to cover, easier

543
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: for the quarterback deceive, regardless of who your quarterback is.

544
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: And then what you don't know, especially for some of

545
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: these incoming wide receivers, how well do they block in

546
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: the run game? What's their interest in blocking and the

547
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: run game? And flashback to two thousand and four. There

548
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: if Fitzgerald didn't really want to block in the run game.

549
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: When he did though, and when he learned that if

550
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I do block, then all of a sudden, to your point,

551
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: here comes the rock. Okay, and he was very good

552
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: at it, but took him a while to get to

553
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: that point. Didn't take that long for Michael Wilson to

554
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: realize that you have to be able to block in

555
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: this offense in order to get the ball thrown your way.

556
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: No doubt, Hey, fits wasn't even all that interested in

557
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: yards after catch. He first showed up his first couple

558
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: of years. It took Todd Hilly and Ken Wizenon to

559
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: yell at him to be more than a one trick pony,

560
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: and then the rest is history. So you're right, you're

561
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: seeing now the direction of this team, the identity, the

562
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: personality of this team, and it's going to very much

563
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: be a physical, straight ahead type of attitude on both

564
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. So does that mean there isn't

565
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: room for some skill old athletic playmakers. Absolutely not. You know,

566
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: they're still going to try and get Dorsch into space

567
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: and some of these other guys. I get it, But

568
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: when in doubt, go with a bigger guy who you

569
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: can use in the run game. And for that reason,

570
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: I think, you know, believe your eyes and exactly who

571
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: who's signing the line that has dotted as pointing you

572
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: in the direction of what this team is going to

573
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: be all about. They adapted to what they had last year.

574
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: Once again, I'm just curious what they look like when

575
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: they have those players they have added by design instead

576
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: of just adopted, you know, as a result of what

577
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: they inherited. Because Craig, while back, you threw out the

578
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: last four draft classes before the arrival of Manti asin Ford,

579
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: meaning the last four draft classes of Steve Kaim And

580
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 3: I'll let you update this because it is stark and

581
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: out of what thirty two players over the draft classes

582
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: from nineteen, twenty twenty one and twenty two, how many

583
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: are now left and the Cardinals.

584
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Speaker 1: Roster the number is six, wow, and three of those

585
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty two Try McBride, Cameron Thomas and Jesse Lucetta,

586
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: Zavin Collins, Victor D mccagie remain from a seven player

587
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: class in twenty twenty one. There are no players left

588
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty with Lecky Fotu signing with the Jets,

589
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: and one player and what was an eleven player draft

590
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: class in twenty nineteen, and that one player is Kyler Murray.

591
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: So again from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two, six

592
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: draft picks remain on this team out of a possible

593
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: thirty two. And again, some of that is you're not

594
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: going to hit on every draft pick. But to your point, Paul,

595
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: it's a brand new front office, a brand new coaching

596
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: staff coming in, figuring out what they have, figuring out

597
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: what they need, and figuring out what they have to

598
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: move on with or move from to be able to

599
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: play that offense and defense that they want to under

600
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: jg Andrew Petsing.

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Speaker 3: So, in some of those four draft classes nineteen, twenty,

602
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: twenty one, and twenty two, there are two foundational building

603
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: block type players, two pillars, Trey McBride and Kyler Murray.

604
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: So think of the degree of difficulty, think of the

605
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: entirety of the job, the enormity of the task of

606
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Manias in port. When we say he's been hitting the

607
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: big red reset button, that's no joke. I mean he's

608
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: literally flipped this roster over and he started from scratch

609
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: in so many different ways. That's why, by design they

610
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: have eleven picks in this draft. That's why I think

611
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: they're trying to accumulate more. This is a loaded draft

612
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: in a number of key positions. The Cardinals covet D line,

613
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: O line, receiver, corner. So I just think by the

614
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: time we get done with this draft, just over a

615
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: month from now, that we're gonna sit back and unlike

616
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: the culmination of these four draft you're gonna look at

617
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 3: this draft glass combined with last year, and you're gonna

618
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: realize that is absolutely the ground floor of the foundation

619
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: for many years to come of where this team is going.

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: Eleven picks tied for the most in a single draft

621
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Speaker 1: since the draft went to seven rounds in nineteen ninety four,

622
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: And to your point, Paul, maybe that number increases depending

623
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: on what happens between now and the end of April,

624
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: or even when the Cardinals are on the clock at

625
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: number four. That's probably when if anything does happen with

626
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: that fourth overall pick, it's gonna happen when the Cardinals

627
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: are on the clock. I would not foresee something happen

628
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: ahead of time, just because I think if you're the Cardinals,

629
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: you want to know what happens in front of you

630
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: at one, two, and three, and then can you get

631
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: that bidding war going. Maybe you reach out, get some

632
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: feelers ahead of time, but those ten minutes they're gonna

633
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: go by quick, and you're gonna have to make a

634
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: decision in short order. And again that wide receiver, that

635
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: true projected number one wide receiver. No one is certain

636
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: about any of these players, but we all hear that,

637
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, can't miss. Well, our number of can't miss

638
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: prospects that certainly missed in this draft, and it's an

639
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: inexact science. You don't know what you have until they're

640
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: in the building, and even still you'll need a couple

641
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: of seasons. But we are a little more than a

642
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: month away from then, and still a lot can happen

643
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: between now and then.

644
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: And just look at the age on this roster as

645
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: they continue to rebuild it. Even their backup quarterback now

646
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter, who they got in return from Atlanta for

647
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: Rondell Moore straight up doesn't even turn twenty five until August,

648
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: still has two years left on his rookie contract, a

649
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: third round rookie contract. He's on the books for just

650
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: over a million this season and in two thousand and

651
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: twenty five. So you know a lot of people want

652
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: to all, wait a minute, Cardinals could have got Justin

653
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: Fields for that sixth round pick, conditional can go all

654
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: the way up to a fourth, but hang on Justin Fields.

655
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: They have to make a decision as a former pick

656
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: overall as to whether they pick up his fifth year

657
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: option or not in May, and if they do, that's

658
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: twenty five million right there for at best a backup

659
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: quarterback on this rosters. So I understand going after Desmond Ritterer.

660
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: I thought it was a really interesting acquisition. Yes, he

661
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: had his struggles, no doubt, for Atlanta the last two years,

662
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: but you also saw some pretty good football from him

663
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: in the two games you played against Desmond Ridder in

664
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: twenty two and twenty three.

665
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: That was the trade was the biggest surprise of the

666
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: week for me watching and paying attention from AFAR because

667
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: backup quarterback was one of those positions that no one

668
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: really wanted to talk about, but I thought was something

669
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: that needed to be addressed with a veteran. Now, Desmond

670
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 1: Ritter is not an experienced veteran as far as years

671
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: in the league, Paul. He's got seventeen starts under his belts,

672
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: eight wins, including one against the Cardinals a couple of

673
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: seasons ago, and I looked it up. He's actually played

674
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: in as many games as Kyler the past two seasons. Wow,

675
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: nineteen because of the injury. Yeah, Kyler started all nineteen

676
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: and Ridders only started seventeen to the nineteen. But you

677
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: needed someone behind Kyler. Again. Hopefully you never see Desmond

678
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Ridder on the football field outside of the preseason exactly,

679
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: but you need to have a backup plan, and I

680
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: think teams are starting to realize that after back to

681
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 1: back seasons in which there were sixty five sixty six

682
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: different starting quarterbacks in a single season, no one wants

683
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: to see their starting quarterback go down. But if it's

684
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna be for three or four weeks, do you have

685
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: someone like back in the day, a Colt McCoy that

686
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: can win two out of four games or three out

687
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: of five to keep you afloat if you do have

688
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: those playoff aspirations and keep you in the title chase.

689
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's Desmond Ridder, but I didn't

690
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: feel comfortable enough with just a Clayton Tune backing up Kyler. Now,

691
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: if Tune can beat out Desmond Ridder, all great for him,

692
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: and you see what you have, But again, you hope

693
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: to never see QB two on the football field.

694
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: Your hesitation right there with Clayton Tune is exactly my

695
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 3: point in bringing in Desmond Ridder. What is the most

696
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: important aspect of any backup quarterback belief and trust from

697
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: the locker room that minus our franchise QB, we can

698
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: go in and win this game. Guys believed in Cole McCoy.

699
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 3: He won his share of games filling in for Kyler

700
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: Murray Clayton Tune. The one game on his resume at

701
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: Cleveland didn't go well. Maybe he evolves and develops into

702
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: a fine NFL quarterback at some point, but that point

703
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: is not now, not this season. So if indeed, knock

704
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: on what everybody, you're without Kyler Murray because he loses

705
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: a shoe, as a coachers like to say it, gets injured.

706
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: Then you need someone who's been there and done that.

707
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: Seventeen career starts in two years. He's a known leader,

708
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: four year starter at Cincinnati. He's a guy who will

709
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: command respect in the locker room Desmond Ridder, and he

710
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: has a similar skill set in a lot of ways

711
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: to Kyler Murray. At least you don't have to completely

712
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: rung near the identity of the offense, which he had

713
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: to do to a certain degree. Between Kyler Murray and

714
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: thirty six year old Colt McCoy. So, but he has

715
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 3: this capability. I mean his rushing stats. Wolfe was reading

716
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: his rushing stats from Cincinnati. I was floored. I didn't

717
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: realize how much he had run the ball. I knew

718
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: we had a ninety one yard touchdown run in college

719
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: at one point in Cincinnati, but he took Cincinnati did

720
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: the college football playoffs, so okay, once again as a

721
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: backup there you go at checks that box because I

722
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: agree with you. It was a low key need throughout

723
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: the offseason. Who is Kyler's backup?

724
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: And this other nugget out of that quarterback room for

725
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: the first time in his career. Kyler Murray is the

726
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: oldest QB in the room. He'll be twenty seven when

727
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: the season begins. He was in the same room once

728
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: upon a time of a Brett Hunley. I'll say the

729
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: name because I know he'll get a reaction out of you.

730
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: Chris Streveler, oh mandatory. Streveler was older than Kyler Murray.

731
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy in that room for two seasons and Josh

732
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: Dobbs as well. Now Kyler is the veteran in that

733
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: room with someone who is not that much younger than him,

734
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: but with experience in ridder as far as a backup quarterback,

735
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: but it's clear that no one wants to see your

736
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. But you do need to have a plan

737
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: in place in the event something happens, and I don't

738
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: think enough teams really think about that. As far as

739
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: spending money or draft capital, or with the Cardinals a

740
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: player for player swap, and you hope that this is

741
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: a move that works out for both players, a change

742
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: of scenery to giving them new life in their young careers.

743
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: Talking about Ridder and Rondell Moore got.

744
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 3: Just throw out there too. It's interesting when the free

745
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: agents met the media, how many of them cited running

746
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: into Kyler Murray in the building. First off, he's here

747
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: every day, just like he was almost the virtual entirety

748
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: of last offseason. Yes, he was rehabbing last off season,

749
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: but he could have done that a lot of that

750
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 3: back home in Texas. This is his home. He is

751
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 3: in there almost every single day. Almost every guy sign

752
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: said he ran into Kyler Murray. They met with a GM,

753
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: they met with the head coach, they met with the

754
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: financial folks. Signed on the line that has dotted. Then

755
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: at some point they ran into Kyler Murray. Sean Murphy

756
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: Bunting telling us that he ran into Kyler and chopped

757
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: it up with him, sort of like Paris Johnson junior

758
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: year ago. Remember the story. I don't want to be

759
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: a fan boy over here, but they're all really impressed

760
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: to meet Kyler as Sean Murphy Bunting told us he's

761
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: been playing Kyler on Madden for many years. He always

762
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: drafts him. Jonah Williams telling stories about how he remembers

763
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray in high school at Allen in Texas doing

764
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: all those crazy feats that he did. He really was

765
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: nationally known as a high school that's how crazy impressive

766
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: he was. And then it was interesting to see the

767
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: news over the weekend according to reports that by carrying

768
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: Kyler on the roster through this past weekend, they Cardinals

769
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: locked in not only his twenty twenty four season, which

770
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: had been locked in at thirty five point three guaranteed,

771
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: but now twenty nine point nine for twenty twenty five.

772
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: Nearly thirty million dollars locked in on his contract for

773
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. So if finally we can exhaust any speculation,

774
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: all right, Kyler's the Cardinals quarterback period going forward. Albert

775
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: Breer in his Monday Morning Quarterback column, as one of

776
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: his bullet points, said, I checked in with my sources

777
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: with the Cardinals, and I wanted to know how did

778
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: Kyler went over his new bosses, And Albert Burris said,

779
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: I collected some anecdotes and most of these we've already

780
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: talked about at length. Number one, according to Breer, he

781
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: rehabbed in Arizona, including late June and July when most

782
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: guys bail Kyler was there. Number two, he learned the

783
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: offense during rehab. Even though he couldn't get out on

784
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: the field, he really did get involved in the meeting rooms.

785
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: We'd heard a lot as well. Number Three, Albert Breer said,

786
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 3: when he first got back out there, Kyler he did establish,

787
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: you know what, he's coachable and he's relatable to his teammates,

788
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: maybe more than had been advertised or surmised when the

789
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: new decision makers came in if they were wondering they

790
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: found out he's coachable, he can relate to his teammates.

791
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: And then the Philadelphia win, which we've talked about that

792
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: second half what he did in the second half of

793
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: that game that JG and Drew Petsin saw Kyler Murray

794
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 3: as a quarterback who was running the offense the way

795
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: they saw the offense designed, and that when he did

796
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: make a mistake, well the pick six, that he came

797
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: to the sideline and said, you know what, I bleeped

798
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: up and he took faull Fort, even though later we

799
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: realized it was Michael Wilson, so that was a good sign.

800
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: And then finally, the last little tidbit that Albert Brier

801
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: cited in his research was that fourth down blitz zero

802
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: blitz in Philadelphia where he hit Michael Wilson on the

803
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: slant to tie it up at twenty eight all and

804
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: just his ability to wait, wait, here comes the blitz

805
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 3: and then boom, make the right decision and an accurate

806
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: throw right there in the red zone. So all that combined,

807
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: and we've talked about all that, but now the rest

808
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: of the country is getting clued in as to exactly

809
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: what happened with Kyler and the Cardinals last season.

810
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Kyler had to be here last offseason rehabbing. He doesn't

811
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: have to be here this offseason. But I do think

812
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: it's by design that we're hearing incoming players say they

813
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 1: ran into Kyler Murray, they met Kyler Murray, they saw

814
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. He's in this building, he's working, But I

815
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: also think he's a welcoming committee. Maybe have one, but

816
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: he is in here to make sure that players coming

817
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: into the building and the facility for the first time

818
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: see him as the franchise quarterback, he is the leader

819
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: of the team and it's important that Kyler be here

820
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 1: when new players are coming in for the first time.

821
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: And to what degree is you know, are they letting

822
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: him in on a lot of these personnel decisions, So

823
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: he feels a sense of ownership that that buy in

824
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: from him, you know, Paris Johnson Junior, he made his

825
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: wishes known going into the draft last year. Jonathan Gannon

826
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: has told the medium multiple times, Yeah, I talked to

827
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: Kyler about virtually anything and everything. So as a franchise quarterback,

828
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: guess what, you are usually let in on some of

829
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: the grand plans. So okay, perhaps he appreciates that and

830
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: feels a sense of ownership now more than he ever did,

831
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: because this isn't some roster that he just inherited and

832
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: showed up to your point, he's not one of they

833
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: getting to the point where he's one of the super

834
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: vets on this team and it's his team in so

835
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: many different ways.

836
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: That brings me to this last point. The one thing

837
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: not surprised that happened a week that I was gone

838
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: disappointed because you hate it for the person rather than

839
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: the player. But you talk about leaders now in that

840
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: locker room. DJ humphreyes no longer an Arizona Cardinal, longest Cardinal,

841
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: tenured Cardinal player released. Certainly understand why, even though you

842
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: hate it, But that's something that's going to be missed,

843
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: not only on the field, but off the field as well.

844
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys always available to the media, always with a smile.

845
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: Did once see Humphreys upset during training camp? A drill

846
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: didn't go the correct way or something happened, and I

847
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: saw a different side of DJ that I know, Paul,

848
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: You've seen a lot on the sideline, but that was

849
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: my first up close view about it. But I wish

850
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: humph nothing but the best. Hopefully it's if it's a

851
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: full year away, he's able to come back in twenty

852
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: twenty five, perhaps it's with the Cardinals or some other team.

853
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think we've seen the last of DJ

854
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Humphries on a football field in the NFL.

855
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 3: I would agree for his outgoing personality, fun loving nature

856
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: of his existence. He's a baller, he's a dog on

857
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: game day. I think he'll miss the game. I think

858
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: he will rehab. He's been there and done that before.

859
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Speaker 3: From all accounts, he's a head of schedule, just depends

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Speaker 3: where he ends up. And don't think for a minute

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Speaker 3: that a franchise left Tack won't be in demand. There

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Speaker 3: will be a home, a place for him somewhere in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Now, I'm curious the drill you were talking

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Speaker 3: about during training camp. Was it the fourth down red

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Speaker 3: zone drill? It was a red zone red zone Actually,

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Speaker 3: I think they put the ball on the flour and

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Speaker 3: they gave the offense four downs to get it in

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Speaker 3: and the Cardinals failed, and the first team O line

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Speaker 3: came to the sideline. This is two training camps ago,

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Speaker 3: and it was Kelvin Beachram and DJ Humphreys, very vocal,

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Speaker 3: very upset. Both might have used their helmets as projectiles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some equipment may have been thrown up against some things.

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Speaker 1: And I actually went into the locker room afterwards and

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Speaker 1: I and Humphreys at that point, you know, turned it around,

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Speaker 1: all smiles whatever, and I went was like, I have

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Speaker 1: never seen you like that before. That Literally it was

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Speaker 1: scary because you're that close. But that's the competitive nature

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Speaker 1: of these players, regardless of it's training camp or a

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Speaker 1: game day. They wanted to win. Something didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: I can't really remember what it was. It might have

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Speaker 1: been the fact that they weren't running the ball as

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Speaker 1: opposed to passing the ball, but that's just the nature

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Speaker 1: of that position because the offensive line takes things so

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Speaker 1: personal when the offense does bog down inside the red zone.

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Speaker 3: He was a different dude on game day, though, there's

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it. We did his show, The Big

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Speaker 3: Red Rage. His name was on it. He was there.

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Speaker 3: He was always in a good mood by Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: didn't matter what at half in the previous Sunday. He

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Speaker 3: was engaging. He was personable, he was funny, and we'd

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Speaker 3: sit right next to him for an hour, we'd do

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Speaker 3: the show, and then I'd see him seventy two hours

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Speaker 3: later on game day on the sideline. He'd look right

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Speaker 3: through me. He was as close to me to you

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Speaker 3: right now, he'd look right through me. No one from

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Speaker 3: the media existed at that point. He was there at

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Speaker 3: a ball And I'll tell this story one last time.

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Speaker 3: Week two the twenty two season. Who was the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: at the Raiders. That was the epic game where Kyler

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Speaker 3: extended the twenty plus second two point run by the

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Speaker 3: way ball Nichols on the big Red Rage. He's going

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Speaker 3: to give us a great and you can go on

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Speaker 3: the social media platforms. You can see it for yourself

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Speaker 3: right now, Bwall Nichols gave us a great account of

905
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Speaker 3: being on the other side of that, the wrong side

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Speaker 3: of that if you're a Raiders defensive lineman. But it

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Speaker 3: was in the second half, and guess what. D J

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Speaker 3: Humphreys was one on one against Chandler Jones, his longtime

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Speaker 3: training camp nemesis. They both made each other better all

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Speaker 3: those years with the Cardinals. DJ got rolled up on.

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Speaker 3: He was in a lot of pain. He came to

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Speaker 3: the sideline and Chandler Jones, as DJ was leaving the field,

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Speaker 3: started pointing and barking at Kyler Murray as the Cardinals

914
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Speaker 3: are getting ready to huddle, you better hope he comes back,

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Speaker 3: because meaning I got you now, your franchise left tackle,

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Speaker 3: DJ Humphreys, he's out of the game. I'm coming to

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Speaker 3: get you. And DJ got w into that. As he

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Speaker 3: was leaving the field and he came and all the

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Speaker 3: trainers around him. He shook everyone off. He said, I'm

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Speaker 3: going back in. I'm going back in, and he didn't

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Speaker 3: let anybody really even examine him. He sat out his

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Speaker 3: mandatory one play, he raced back out there and kept

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Speaker 3: Kyler clean the rest of the game.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be weird not seeing number seventy four lineup

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Speaker 1: left of center at left tackle for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: So again, wish nothing but the best for DJ and Paul.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you caught me up on everything

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Speaker 1: that I had missed, And I think the important thing

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Speaker 1: right now is for you to take some time and

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Speaker 1: get back home and make sure you take care of

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Speaker 1: your other kid, and yeah, make sure that the kid

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Speaker 1: is properly trained and knows where to be where not

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Speaker 1: to be in Casa Calvic.

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Speaker 3: See what I thought I was way past, was PAULI

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Speaker 3: potty training? I thought I was way past that. And

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Speaker 3: now we've got a four legged friend at home. We

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Speaker 3: have to worry about Craig my favorite part of free agency.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for asking. I want to make sure you are

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Speaker 3: truly up to speed. Was Luke Colms, country music superstar

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Speaker 3: bashing a Carolina Panthers when he tweeted out, what are

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Speaker 3: we doing? No first round pick for Christian McCaffrey, no

942
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Speaker 3: first round pick now for Brian Burns? Are we just

943
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Speaker 3: fire bombing the whole team or what slow torture and

944
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Speaker 3: tweet Luke Colmbs. I think I enjoyed that maybe more

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Speaker 3: than anything during free agency period.

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Speaker 1: Well, Luke Colmbs might not know what the Panthers are doing.

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Speaker 1: We do know what Paul will be doing, though, and

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Speaker 1: that is potty training, a brand new addition to his family.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on

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Speaker 1: This edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hyundai, probably

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks to

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim on one Hundre, our associate producer

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Speaker 1: Cody Fincher. For Paul Calvic, I'm Craig rial Lou. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two