1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Jetty and Keee Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: What's a fair price to pay the babysitter these days? 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: And now we do know that the going rate rose 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: five percent in the last year to more than twenty 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: six dollars an hour on average to hire a babysitter 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: for one child, this according to Urban Sitter, And if 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: you've got two kids, it's nearly thirty dollars an hour. 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: The most expensive city for babysitting San Francisco, the cheapest 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: San Antonio. 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: I am not paying that much and I've got some 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: quality people. Twenty six woo, that's a lot. 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: This is squarely under the umbrella of any national figures. 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: Kind of true, but I. 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: Also live in one of the more expensive parts of 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: the world, So right right, I don't know what it 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: costs in San Francisco has got nothing to do with 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: what it costs in hogs Nipple, Tennessee. 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: For ends. True, very true, but certainly in the twenties 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere, which is unthinkable not that many years ago. 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: But inflation and whatnot. I don't know. Lots of prices 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: were unthinkable not very many years ago. 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Don't know. You notice that amen to that inflation is 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: attack google it, don't google it, ai it anyway. So 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: there are a couple of big legal cases going on 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: right now and a fair amount of good news. Actually, 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, our system is so good. It is great. 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: This is a great country with a great constitution that 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: we're doing our best to trash. But you know, our 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: system of the separate branches of government and legal review 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: of the law, and that's it works beautifully the vast 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: majority of the time. Excuse me, in spite of what 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer and the activist media would try to tell 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: you about the out of control Trump caught. Anyway, let's 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: begin our legal analysis with this. And it pains me 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: to my car to admit this. This is a clever 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: move by America's sourest fruit Don Lemon. You know how 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of federal prosecutors quit over the immigration crackdown 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: and then the investigation into those two unfortunate shootings, Don 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Lemon has hired one of them for his legal team 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: in a publicity slash legal stunt, but a clever one. 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: I heard. 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: I think somebody from the National Review came up with 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: this idea. If you hate don Lemon, don't prosecute him, 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: ignore him, because I mean, he's a nobody and his 47 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: career was over. This is only going to elevate him 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: if he ends up with a court case with his 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: name attached to it and he gets to stand up 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: and be all righteous in front of cameras during a 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: court case, not just ignore them, let it go whatever. 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, what a rotten human he is. Well, anyway, 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: onto some good news. We'll kind of weave back and forth. 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Our friend Tim Sandefert the Goldwater Institute has alerted us 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: that they are involved now in what could be an 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: historic case. They filed a brief in the Arizona Supreme 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Court urging the justices to extend full constitutional protection to 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: the right to earn a living, perhaps the most vital 59 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: and neglected of our constitutional freedoms rights. Tim the founders 60 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: regarded it as absolutely critical. That is precisely what they 61 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: meant by the pursuit of happiness right. 62 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: So there are a lot of people that talk about 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: housing being a right, healthcare being a right, which I 64 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: have a real problem with both of those, but the 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: right to earn a living. 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Obviously, As I said to Tim, Well state the obvious, 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: people don't have the right to earn a living to 68 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: go out and feed themselves. It's absurd, it's horrific. Who 69 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: would believe that? And he said, other than most of 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: the lawyers, I know nobody. What are the examples of 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: where people are being denied their right to earn a living? 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: How's that play out? There are a thousand examples. This 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: sentence actually kind of explains it in reverse. Economic freedom, 74 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: the right to start a business, or get a job, 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: or buy and sell things to support yourself and your 76 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: family were regarded as basic legally protected rights almost two 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: centuries before the Constitution was even written. And he gives 78 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: all sorts of historical examples. This is really the culmination 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: of Tim's entire career. He's been crusading for the right 80 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: to earn a living in economic freedom his entire life. 81 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: Isnted too young to come to the culmination of his career, 82 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: should you being like in your sixties? 83 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, because he's then he can do the 84 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: victory lab and be a hero for a while. Anyway, 85 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: So despite all of the examples, he gives and I 86 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: wish we had time for the whole of it. I'll, 87 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: you know what, We'll post a link to this piece 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: at Armstrong and Getty dot com so you can read 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: it yourself under hot links. But he writes in in 90 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: spite of all of the evidence he lays out, and 91 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: despite the fact that state and federal courts protected economic 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: freedom throughout the nineteenth century, things changed when the US 93 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: Supreme Court issued a series of rulings in the nineteen 94 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: thirties declaring that economic liberty would no longer be given 95 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: the same kind of protection than other constitutional rights received. Instead, 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: legislators and regulators could interfere with economic liberty virtually at will, 97 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: in ways that would never be allowed with respect to 98 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: other kinds of liberty. And then he talks about this 99 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: specific case that they're involved in. A fellow by the 100 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: name of Greg Mills as an engineering consultant. He runs 101 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: a consulting firm that helps design electronic circuitry. But the 102 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: Arizona Board of Technical Registration declared that Greg falls within 103 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: the state's licensing law for engineers, a law that was 104 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: actually designed with architectural engineering in mind, and therefore he 105 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: cannot practice his trade without government permission. Getting a licensed 106 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: would be an expensive and all and time consuming task 107 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: and would make no sense because his business isn't the 108 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: kind of thing the licensing law was written for. They 109 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: want to go beyond that and get the courts to 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: concede the right to earn a living is a fundamental 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: right under the state constitution, and then we would hope 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: it goes federal. 113 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: So without telling the whole story, I've told many times. 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: So we bought a farm that had a giant horse 115 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: barn on it with the idea that we were going 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: to board horses because a lot of people have horses 117 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: and they just need someplace to keep them. And then 118 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: you can charge people a couple hundred dollars a month 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: and there's a bunch of stalls. 120 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: And thought that bige. 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: And there were so many hurdles in the county I 122 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: lived in California, I mean, just hurdle after hurdle after hurdle, 123 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: and clearly the idea was don't do this. You should 124 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: not be We don't need people starting doing things like 125 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: this on their own. 126 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: That's not good. I mean it was. The attitude was amazing. 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: So in Tim's world, you'd be able to sue if 128 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: you just you've made it too difficult for me to 129 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: try to earn money here. 130 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: You've put up too many barriers a simple exchange of 131 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: a good or a service and a fee that the 132 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: government has no interest in whatsoever. Yeah, exactly, it all 133 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: flows from the new Deal. Right. It's not a shock 134 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: that California ranks always fiftieth. No, but that sort of 135 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: thing is so maddy, and it happens all the time. 136 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: Where you've got something that somebody else wants, the two 137 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: of you are willing to make exchange. They're happy with 138 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: the deal. You're happy with the deal. But the county 139 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: or the city, or the whoever gets in the way 140 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: of it. No, no, no, you two citizens of this country, 141 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: tax paying, law abiding citizens are not allowed to make 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: this exchange of goods in time or space or whatever 143 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: for money. 144 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: We're not gonna let you. And I was outrageous. Even 145 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: if they had some sort of weak argument about protecting 146 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: people in general or whatever, that's not good enough to 147 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: interfere with a basic constitutional right. But in your case, 148 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: they didn't even make that argument. 149 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: No, it was all kinds of there's all kinds of 150 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: stuff needed to retrofit the barn for earthquake. There's no 151 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: earthquakes where I live. Handicapped stalls, I mean, there's just endless. 152 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: For handicapped horses. I don't know, I don't know, but anyway, 153 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: there were endless reasons you could just couldn't do it 154 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: right right. I'm tempted not to move on to the 155 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: other cases I was gonna mention because this is such 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: a big one. It's troubling to me that because of 157 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: the last gosh dang it, going on one hundred years 158 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: of progressive jurisprudence, people have to be reintroduced to the 159 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: idea that economic freedom is a basic constitutional freedom. 160 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: I'll never forget, you know, I don't think I was 161 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: just reading this in I'll never forget the glee the 162 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: person at the county seemed to have whenever they could 163 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: hit me with an impediment to what we wanted to do. 164 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: They seem to get enjoyment malcop syndrome. Yeah, I guess 165 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: they seem to get enjoyment of being able to stop 166 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: you from doing that. 167 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: I guess because they have the power. No, no, no, 168 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: here's why you can't do this. Okay, have a good day. 169 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: I am above you. I can control you. I will 170 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: tell you what you can and cannot do. Boy, it 171 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: was really off putting. Yeah. Yeah, Now I was thinking 172 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: back to my school days. I can't square because my 173 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: memory is not that good that I wasn't taught this 174 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: because I had a couple of outstanding high school history teachers. 175 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: They're among the best teachers I had up until college. 176 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Explaining what the phrase the pursuit of happiness means, because 177 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have kind of speaking 178 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: for my generation, the twentieth century view of that means 179 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: the right to pursue being cheerful and having a great 180 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: life and maybe go. 181 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: To a ball game, a boat, cool car and getting 182 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: some that's right, shooting happiness. Yeah no, that was specifically 183 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: about economic freedom. Anyway, way to go, Goldwater Foundation and 184 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: other places like you fighting for our rights. I want 185 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: to get to a must a teacher use pronouns case 186 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: also one of the worst judges in America. But Jack, 187 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: this will gratify you. Big win for a college professor 188 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: who said, you can't make me do one of those 189 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: stupid land acknowledgments. In fact, this guy he was ordered 190 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: to and he did one that was a parody, and 191 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: he got in so much trouble they launched an investigation 192 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: to end his career. But of all circuit course, the 193 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: ninth well a liberal, the progressive ninth Circus said no, 194 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: you can't force him to do that. 195 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: That's political speech. So boo yah win for the good guys. 196 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm glad for that, very glad for that. I 197 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: don't know how many people out there are willing to 198 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: stick their head up and be a pariah by refusing to. 199 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Do it if their college tells him to do it. 200 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: This guy, actually, he cited one of the economic theories 201 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: of land use and ownership. I won't bor you with 202 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: the details, but his land acknowledgement was was it the 203 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: Snahomish Indians or we'll say the Cree just because the 204 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: tribe pops to mind. His land acknowledgement said, according to 205 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: locks blah blah blah rule of land ownership, the Cree 206 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: own virtually no land that the University of Washington is on, 207 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: practically none. That was his landing acknowledgement. And boy did 208 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: he get hammered for him. That's fantastic. I love it. 209 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: We'll tell you more about that later in the show. 210 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: We can very quickly give you the latest in the 211 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: Nancy Guthrie case. Looked like things were happening last night, 212 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: but no, a person of interest has been let go, 213 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: probably not the dude. And are they back to square one? 214 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: Kind of close? Maybe anyway, lots more on the way, 215 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: stay here. 216 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: This does not strike me as a targeted abduction. And 217 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 4: here's why. In a targeted abduction, where you know you're 218 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: you're person that you're after, you know the location, you've 219 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: done some reconnaissance on it, it's about getting in there 220 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: acquiring your target. Like with maduro we got in and 221 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: got Maduroll faster than this person spent you know, on 222 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: the ground there. So, but this video is going to 223 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: give us everything we need to know height, weight gate. 224 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: We're going to have a pretty good description. 225 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: And if the AI and some of the technology can 226 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: pull back the layers of the sche mask, we might 227 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: even get somewhat of a semblance of a facial structure. 228 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: AI is going to be able to take the sche 229 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: mask off. That's interesting, HM, basic facial structure, I guess. 230 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: So the biggest thing to me is it went from 231 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: these are probably pros, maybe cartel too. It's a dufus, 232 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: maybe a couple of defices do FI. But it's a dufus, 233 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: I mean, for all kinds of reasons. If you watch 234 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: the video, it might be a dufus who murdered an 235 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: old lady, but it's not some professional organization. But so 236 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: lots of people were having a question about So it's 237 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: a camera that's one of the companies that Google runs 238 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: that she had, and she stopped paying her subscription, so 239 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 3: there wasn't a media access to this information. So now, 240 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: like I said earlier, MSNBC was going on lesson, how's 241 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: a three and a half trillion dollar company take ten 242 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: days to get us this information? And then I heard 243 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: other experts saying it's amazing they were able to grab 244 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: this out of their And I don't have any I 245 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: know nothing about this, zero about this. But if I 246 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: cancel my subscription on my door cam, you're still recording 247 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: stuff outside my door and storing it somewhere. That that's 248 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: somebody just texted that that's an interesting that's an interesting 249 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: thing to know. 250 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: So I canceled my subscription. Those terms you didn't read. 251 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: I canceled my subscription, but you're still recording stuff and hanging. 252 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: On to it. Correct, I will be damned audio and 253 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: visual right, So you're listening to every content station we have, 254 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, anywhere near our front door or wherever else 255 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: you got cameras, even though I've canceled it. Yep. That's 256 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: a heck of a thing to know. That is worth noting. Yes, yeah, 257 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: I remember. I think it was Nest, Google's Nest, which 258 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: these cameras are. Somebody recommended a Nest thermostat or something. 259 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, fine, it's programmable, you can change it 260 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: when you're out of the house or whatever. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. 261 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: And then I started to read into what it was 262 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: and the rights that this thing had to surveil us 263 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: my thermostat, and we're like, no, no, that ain't happened. 264 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: I ripped it off the wall. 265 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: So far, if if these companies can watch you and 266 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: listen to you, we find out they are yes, over 267 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: over and over and over again, whether it's Apple, Google, Tesla, whoever. 268 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but nobody has access to it. I don't care. 269 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 3: First of all, I don't believe you. But secondly I 270 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: don't care. Yeah, you've recorded all this stuff and you're 271 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: keeping it somewhere. Why because you just have so much 272 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: computer space, and it's so cheap for you you just 273 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: might as well record everything and keep everything. 274 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: There must be some reason you keep it, right, Yeah, 275 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, So knowledge is power. I think it 276 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: may be as simple as that, although I'm sure Zuckerberg 277 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: and Sundar Pitch I could tell you exactly why it's 278 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: power and how it's turned into money. But yeah, that's 279 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: absolutely true. 280 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: Probably you know, they got AI listening for product names 281 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: and all kinds of different stuff to you know, build 282 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: profiles of their customers and everybody. 283 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: We got a text the other day. 284 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: This is a classic and we all wonder this all 285 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: the time, but as somebody who texted that their their 286 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: mom and died and they never and they had been 287 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: having conversations with people about the funeral, and they started 288 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: getting casket at their various feeds and they're like, I've 289 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: had I've not searched, i haven't done anything. Line, it 290 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: just happened. I just found out I've only talked. 291 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: So listen to your conversations. Well, we know this your 292 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: your ring camera, even though you don't even pay for 293 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: the subscription anymore. Apparently is listening to you and watching 294 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: you and storing it. 295 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: That's wild, I can show your soul's desire for freedom. 296 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, word to the wise, what's the heck of a thing? 297 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: So surveiled everywhere we go? I'm gonna remember that. 298 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: So if you stop using whatever program or subscription or whatever, 299 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: you gotta destroy the laptop or unhooked the camera or 300 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: you know, cover the microphone or whatever, because they're still 301 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: doing it apparently. Mm hmm ye want me damned. I 302 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: hate all of that stuff. It's gonna be so omnipro. 303 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: It's already omniprism, but it's gonna be so omniprison a 304 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: couple of years. People are just gonna throw up their 305 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: hands and just assume they're being surveiled at all times. 306 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: That's where young people are. I know that, right, Yep. 307 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: They're listening and watching everywhere I go. And I know that, 308 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 3: and they're just have resigned themselves to that. And if 309 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: they need to take you down, they have the information 310 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: to do it. Yep, somebody that lardon. We got more 311 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: on the way if you missed the Segnik. The podcast 312 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty on. 313 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: Demand Armstrong and Getty. 314 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: DJ, which is under pressure from lawmakers, has now been 315 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 5: unredacting some of the names they redacted of prominent men. 316 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 5: One of the names that was not redacted was kind 317 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 5: of interesting. It was David mckillops, who is, or i 318 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: should say, was, the CEO of Chuck E. 319 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: Cheese. 320 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: He resigned after his name appeared in the files once 321 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 5: and in a seemingly innocuous way. I don't I mean 322 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 5: from a business standpoint. If you think about it, name 323 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 5: a company that would be less excited about their CEO 324 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 5: being mentioned in the pedal. 325 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean, would it be. 326 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 5: A home depot, B Wells Fargo, C. Sam's Club, or 327 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: d Chuck E Cheese. The answer clearly d. So that's 328 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 5: a real punch of. 329 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: The ball pit for him. Man, that's interesting. 330 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: I have to look into that because, I mean, Kimmel 331 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 3: suggested that it's just like tangentially, it's not a you know, 332 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: him talking about having sex with underage girls. It's just 333 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: like a lot of the names and the Epstein files 334 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: are just there for business reasons, right, But he resigned 335 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: as CEO. Wow, that seems odd to me and does 336 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: me too. We'll have to get to the Howard Lutnik 337 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: testimony from yesterday though, where he talks about going to 338 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 3: the island with his wife and kids and nanny right 339 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: after having I'll never speak to that man again. Then 340 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: you go to his island for. 341 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: A family of vac I'm telling you. You know the 342 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: guy's a perv you know he's a woman hound. You've 343 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: heard the rumors about the underage thing. But he can 344 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: offer you such incredible luxury, you think with the hem 345 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: let's go wow. And Lutnig even said, I don't recall 346 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: why we went. Who would hang out? 347 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 3: Well, but who visits an island and does I don't 348 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: recall why we went to. 349 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: Hawaii, Judy and I, I don't say. It's foggy in 350 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: my memory. Well, then an odd thing to see. 351 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: Well, then you'd say it was a vacation, right, I mean, 352 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: but nobody goes and visits somebody on an island who 353 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: owns an island? I mean, has this just like once 354 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: in a lifetime? Who does this experience? And says I 355 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: don't really recall the circumstances around that. I don't know, 356 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: it just kind of happened. 357 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: Why don't you try harder, Katie, Oh, I took my 358 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: wife and kids to his island. 359 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: But he's gross. He didn't say that he's gross, I 360 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: mean intered several times. Was my wife, kids and nanny's 361 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: plural more than one. I guess if you're super rich, 362 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: you have a nanny per kid or something like that. 363 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: But and we all were together the whole time, and 364 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: then we left all together, so it wasn't like I 365 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: went there to. 366 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: Okay, and I'll recall why we were there. Yeah, what's 367 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: going on? I don't know. I really don't know, Crooks. 368 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I think now is the time you go ahead and 369 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: just say if your involvement with the dude was innocent, 370 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: just go ahead and talk about it. Come out first. Yeah, 371 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: that'd be a good idea. I'd like to. 372 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: Say I had dealings with a mister Epstein. You know, 373 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: I bought an apartment complex from him in twenty fifteen, 374 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 3: and I met him twice as mostly dealing with his lawyers, 375 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. 376 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me all the instances in your life, friends, 377 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: where somebody has made ridiculous excuses or incredibly you know, 378 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: difficult to believe explanations for something over and over again, 379 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and they keep changing it, but then at the end 380 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: it turns out it was perfectly innocent. 381 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 3: That never happened, right, man, when Ludnig had out there 382 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: for a week or so. Well, he did that podcast 383 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: just the other and he said, he told that whole 384 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 3: story about me and my wife going there and the 385 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: massage table, and I can get you the right kind 386 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: of massage, right And I told my wife as we 387 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 3: walked out the door, I'm never gonna be in the 388 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: same room with that guy again. Well, if you know 389 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: that you then went to the island and hung out 390 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: for a couple of days. 391 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: You can't tell that story with the whole fam family. 392 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: What's going on there? 393 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, and it doesn't sound untowared. If you 394 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: were there with your wife, kids and nannies, it probably 395 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: wasn't a sex party. 396 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: But then, why did you cover that up? Which you did? 397 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: You know? I realized this may be grist for the 398 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: conspiracy meal. But I ask again a little different than 399 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I asked the other day, why has nobody come out 400 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: and said he told me that the bust in Florida, 401 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: he was absolutely certain she was of age. He feels 402 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: terrible about it, blah blah blah, And so I took 403 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: him at his word. And because he's a successful financier, 404 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: I figured all right, well, I'll stay in touch with him. 405 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: It turns out he was a purv. I wish I 406 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: hadn't blah blah. Nobody has. Nobody has explained in anything 407 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: close to a reasonable way why they stayed in touch 408 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: with the guy. No, they have not. I think all 409 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: of those files that have come out showed why. Because 410 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: he could offer them, well a because he could offer 411 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: them incredible luxury and pleasure even of non sex with 412 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: young girls. 413 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: So why don't people say that, Like to your point, 414 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: why don't people say that? Why don't they say, Man, 415 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: I knew like a guy that could give you the 416 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: greatest vacation ever. It was amazing, right, Why nobody says 417 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: that he had so much money he would just fly 418 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 3: you to this island and it was like the best 419 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: Hawaiian vacation you've ever had, But there was nobody else there. 420 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: It was incredible. Yeah, I don't I don't know the 421 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: And the other thing that's intriguing me is that what 422 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: became clear and I can't remember who came up with this. 423 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: It's not my own wisdom, but that Epstein and people 424 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: like him build this incredible network of mutual I owe you, 425 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: you owe me, I did something great for you, you 426 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: do something for me. With all sorts of rich and 427 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: powerful and famous people, and that was his incredible skill. 428 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: He would fly you to the island, give you the 429 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 1: vacation of your life, and then if he needed a 430 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: letter written for his client to get his client's kid 431 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: into Harvard, he would say, hey, would you mind taking 432 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: a minute to write that letter? And he connected people 433 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: like that in a masterful way. He also had a 434 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: taste for really, really young women and girls. I write 435 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: it all gross, but at this point, why don't you 436 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: just state that I didn't think he was a perv. 437 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: I knew he was a tailhound, but you know, he 438 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: did so many nice things for me. I thought this 439 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: is a pretty good guy. 440 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 3: I was wrong. I apologize. I don't know, and you're right. 441 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: There's not a not that I've heard a single person 442 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: saying that. 443 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: You know, why don't we just go ahead with the 444 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: Lutnik audio? How much is there? I don't remember? Uh six, Yeah, 445 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: let's hear him. 446 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 6: I looked through the millions of documents for my name, 447 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 6: just like everybody else, and what I found was there 448 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 6: was a document that says that I had a meeting 449 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 6: with him. 450 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 3: No, everyone isn't worried about their names being in the 451 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: Epstein files. This is Lutnik is the Commerce secretary. If 452 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: we haven't mentioned that already, whatever that is. 453 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: Go ahead. This is from a podcast last year sixty three. 454 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 6: I was never in the room with him socially for 455 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 6: business or for even philanthropy. 456 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: If that guy was there, I wasn't going because he's. 457 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: Rops right, And then he testifies yesterday that he and 458 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: his wife and kids. 459 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: And nannies went to the island. 460 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: Why would you say that other stuff if you knew 461 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: that was out there, and somebody is sure to figure 462 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: that out. Maybe there's just not as good at lying 463 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: as they think they are, or think you can still, 464 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: because just being linked with Epstein in anyway is such poison. 465 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: You just got to completely deny it and then nobody 466 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: will ever figure it out. 467 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: No, millions of pages of documents are wrong. People will 468 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: figure it out. Get ahead of it, say hey, my 469 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: name was in the files. I didn't know the guy 470 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: was a PERV. Turns out he was, what a sicko. 471 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad he's dead, by. 472 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: The way, and I have no reason to think that 473 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: Howard Lutnik was having sex with underage girls at all. 474 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: And I'm not suggesting you did, but it doesn't completely 475 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: clear you that you went to the went on a 476 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 3: vacation with your wife, kids and nanny. You're gonna tell 477 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: me there wasn't a couple hours one afternoon where you 478 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: told your wife. Yeah, Epstein and I are going to 479 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: talk about that whole you know, golf course that we're developing. 480 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: So I'll be back at three. And you disappeared for. 481 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: A little while, and that could have been when you 482 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: did the reason that that's the whole reason you came 483 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: for a couple hours of enjoyment Epstein's style. 484 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's not impossible. 485 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: Just because you went there with your wife and gets 486 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you were never. 487 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: It's a good point. Sure, everybody needs a little me time. 488 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: Well you know, yeah, husband's wife. I mean, I'm going 489 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: to go shopping in town for a while. Cool, you know, 490 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: we'll we'll spend a little time apart. And nothing wrong 491 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: with that. 492 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, it's for really, I feel terrible. 493 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: I have a confession to make, honey. I've never even 494 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: picked up a golf club. It's been hookers, all been hookers, 495 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: every single all these years. It's and hundreds of rounds 496 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: of thousands rounds of nope, hookers cause she's crooks. 497 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: But you can't come out and talk about he. You 498 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: would never be in the room with him. He's gross. 499 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: And then somewhere in the files it is, Oh, except 500 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: for that vacation where I spent several days with the guy, 501 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: that's my entire family, with my entire family. I put 502 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: my kids around him. That's how gross he is. That's 503 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: how untoured I think his lifestyle is. I had my 504 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 3: wife and kids around him. 505 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: Eh, what wonder if it's what. 506 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: You said that they don't believe that he did the 507 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: stuff that he got accused of, but they haven't said 508 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: it out loud. 509 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: Everybody knew he was an enormous tale hound, if you will. 510 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 3: Well, right, there was a thing that came out yesterday, 511 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: a piece in there of Trump apparently telling Trump. I 512 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: think it's denying this, but it was in one of 513 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: the documents that Trump told local law enforcement when they 514 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: finally came to bust Epstein, Trump told law enforcement, finally, 515 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm glad this is happening. Because everybody knows 516 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: what's going on there and it's awful and it needs 517 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: to stop. Something like that, which sounds believable. Yeah, yeah, 518 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 3: since he got convicted, although with a very cushy penalty 519 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: for what the crime was. 520 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: All right, an incredibly soft deal. Yeah, I don't know. 521 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: I have no idea. There is mystery there. It was 522 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: a long time ago. Yeah, there is mystery there, though. 523 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: The why people aren't, you know, being more forthcoming if 524 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: there's nothing there. Nobody's exactly sure where the wealth came 525 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: from all that sort of stuff. 526 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: Any who, he's gross. I will never be in a 527 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: room with him ever again. 528 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: By the way, and John Stewart was making a big 529 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: deal out of this last week on The Daily Show. 530 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: Lutnik lived six feet away from Epstein. 531 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: Their houses were six feet apart. Wow, like they were 532 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: next door neighbors. Interesting. Yeah. So my final note on 533 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: this is it's funny the number of people who've said 534 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: I regret that I was friends with him. No, quite literally, 535 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: you're feeling the negative repercussions for being friends with him, 536 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: so of course you regret it. That's what regret is. 537 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: You need to say more than that, you know, honey, 538 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: I regret that I had that affair. Well, yes, because 539 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: there's a divorce lawyer standing on my chest and my 540 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: kids hate me and all. No, no, you've got to 541 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: say more than you regret it. Of course you regret it. 542 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: That's a weak acknowledgment of having made a mistake to me. 543 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: So there's a controversial opinion piece in the Washington Post 544 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: today that we'll get to maybe an hour three. The 545 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: surgeon Autism in America is a myth according to this doctor, 546 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: which is going to be very controversial, and we'll get 547 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: into that an hour three. Among them of things on 548 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: the way, Stay here, Look, this beaver is stealing a 549 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: two by Get out of there. 550 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: What was that? Dad? 551 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: Was a guy laughing at the fact that a beaver 552 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: stole a two by four out of the back of 553 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: a truck. And apparently when the owner of the two 554 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: by four saw a beaver attempting to steal the two 555 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: by four, he yelled, hey, hey, get out of there. 556 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: At the beaver as if he speaks English, then bring. 557 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: That back, because if it both speaks English and is 558 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: prone to obey commands. 559 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: Well and appealed to its conscience. Right plane into the beavers. 560 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: I warned you, I warned you. 561 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: Appealed to its morality. 562 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 3: Where were you on the evening of February sixth? What 563 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: do you call see here, gentlemen of the jury? Is 564 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: the flat tail of deceit? Apparently that of dishonesty. 565 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Huh. Apparently that was in Branson, Missouri. Aah. That's a 566 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: very Brandson sort of story. I've been to Branson. That's 567 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: a very brand works. Yeah, exactly. Now, the progressive view 568 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: of it would be leaves so decimated our nation's forests 569 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: that beavers are forced to steal two by fours out 570 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: of pickup trucks. Okay, so the Ice right and the 571 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: Palestinians right, yay, queers for beaver's and Palestine. So more 572 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: on that sort of thing next hour. But this is 573 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: simply interesting. Is apropos very little? But I hope you 574 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed as much as I did. I love when they 575 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: have the flyovers at football game tips the fighter jets 576 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: or bombers or whatever go over and then everybody cheers 577 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: and the fireworks in the American flag bubble. I found 578 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: this very very interesting set along by Alert listener and 579 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: honorary producer Jeff. These flyovers don't quote cast extra for 580 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: the military costs are already baked into the flying hour program. 581 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: The jets must fly football or not, and flyovers look 582 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: a lot like normal training crews do low level roots 583 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: routinely with simulated enemy defenses that must be avoided, and 584 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: they designate this seven to eleven to be a surfaced 585 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: air missile site. 586 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: Well, were people complaining about this being a waste of money? 587 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: I think somebody asked the question and a target. So 588 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: the regular training runs you do low level roots with 589 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: simulated enemy defenses that must be avoided and a target 590 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: that must be hit at a precise time the time 591 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: on target. Published Low level routes are usually located around 592 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: bases and depicted on charts. Some features used as a target, 593 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe in an abandoned factory or a distant bridge. Today the 594 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: target happens to be the Super Bowl. This was obvious. 595 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl time timing is critical. The route is carefully planned. 596 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: Special charts are prepared showing entry, point ingressed target, and egress. 597 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: There may be a bunch of turns or straight either way. 598 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: Multiple points along the ground are used as references, say 599 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: a bridge over a creek. On the chart, each point 600 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: is annotated with a dog house, which is the nickname 601 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: for a rectangle divided into sections. At the top is 602 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: a triangle pointing in the direction of the flight. Vital 603 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: information is entered into the doghouse, like compass heading to fly, 604 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: how much fuel you should have, and most importantly, the 605 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: time you should pass it. If you're off timing at all, 606 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: it's a chance to change speed and get back on time. 607 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: Because like in battle, they take off separately and then 608 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: assemble in the air in their attack formation, and so 609 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: these flyovers are a perfect opportunity to put that trending 610 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: into work because they have to come together and be 611 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: precisely over the stadium at the end of the national anthem. 612 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was never worried about the cost because obviously 613 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: they get a practice flying these things around. 614 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: They do it all the time. 615 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: I live near an Air Force base and we see 616 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: all kinds of amazing aircraft flying around all the time. 617 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, the timing thing is makes sense. 618 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: You know, you got to hit this target in Iran 619 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: at exactly this moment because we got another thing happening 620 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: over here is exactly the same as right when the 621 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: national anthem. 622 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: Ends, right, yeah, exactly, And you've got to assemble, you know, 623 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: multiple bombers, say in some fighter escorts and a refueling plane. 624 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: It's not like they get to the rendezvous point and 625 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: are looking at their watches. Where's freaking gym with the 626 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: refueling plane. He said he'd be a little late, so 627 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: they just circle around in the air for ten minutes. Wait, 628 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: of course traffic. You should have checked the traffic before 629 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: he left the airfield gym. Anyway, No, that's not the 630 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: way it works. Everybody gets where they're supposed to be 631 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: exactly at the right time. So I just thought that 632 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: was interesting little ordinance for bad bony. And that's what 633 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: I say. Oh, what's belligerent right there? It's your a 634 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: neocon or something. Is there no explosion autism in this country? 635 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: It's just over diagnosed. It's the opinion piece in the 636 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: Washington Post today. We can get into that a little bit. Yeah, 637 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: absolutely willing to take on that argument and to look 638 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: at some of the most recent research into autism, which, 639 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: as the dad of an autistic kid, is fascinating to 640 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: me and right on. So we'll get to that in 641 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: hour three. 642 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: If you missed a segment of an hour Armstrong and 643 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: Getty on demand that's our podcast, Armstrong and Getty