1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte. Kathyang is here with us. She plays 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Lily on in jes like that my pretend daughter. That's 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: what we call you about my house. I say, I'm 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: going to go see my pretend daughter in New York. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, my mother, like she might. No, No, 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: they like you. They're just a little thrown off, you know, 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: they're my real children. They're like, oh, okay, the pretend daughter. Okay, 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: but you know, this is the weirdness of having a 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: mom as an actress. Actress mom, weird things happen. Okay, 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: we're going to discuss an episode from the second season. 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: This episode two of three is called The Freak Show 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: and it's really good. It aired on June twentieth, nineteen 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: ninety nine. You guys. Wow, Oh it kills me when 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I say these dates. So the synopsis is basically is 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: New York full of freaks. Carrie, Charlotte, Miranda, and Samantha 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: all date a different kind of quote freak and wonder 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: are they freaks as well. It's a great synopsis, you guys. 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: And this is directed by one of my favorite directors, 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Alan Colter, who we are going to have on the 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: podcast soon. I'm so excited. He made a huge difference. 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: He came in on the on the show in the 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: first season and really shifted the show, like his kind 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: of way that he moved the camera, the way that 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: he spoke to us. He's the first person who spoke 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: to us about talking fast and walking slow in the 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: walk and talks because you run out of space. Yeah, 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: if you walk as fast as you're talking, because you 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: tend to want to keep the rhythm the same. But 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: you have to teach yourself to move your feet slower 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: and let your mouth go quick. 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: You're not a human, You're like, yes, you are. 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: You are not a normal human. It's true. There's also 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: written by Jenniebigs, the Great Jenniebigs. Yay, okay, this is 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: a crazy episode because this is when my character dates 36 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: someone that we call mister Pussy. Oh yeah, so Charlie 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Schroeder played mister Pussy. He did a real name was 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Mitchell Saylor, but really everyone calls her calls him mister Pussy, 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: and he is like a legend apparently, which is interesting. 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: But can you I can actually I can't. I do 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: think it's real. See, this is when we're still in 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: the era of storylines that were actually based on Kannas's 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: column and Candice knowing people and having these stories be 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: real stories from life. WHOA, yeah, that is crippy. 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: That is a moniker for you. 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: That's totally right. So all of us have really really fascinating, 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: fascinating storylines I think in this episode. And so Carrie 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: the thing. There's so many things I love about this episode, 49 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: but one of them is the way that it begins 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: as Carrie's voiceover, of course, and she's talking about dating 51 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: in Manhattan, and we see images of Ellis Island, which 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: is so crazy, and then it bleeds into a couple 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: like a CPA looking photograph leads into actual extras in 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the show that are dressed in ways that look like 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: they're you know, like term the century. It's fascinating, and 56 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: it's talking about everyone came with a dream. And then 57 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: she talks about how single women dream of getting married, 58 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: which I'm just like, wow, would we write that today? 59 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think, Kathy, would we 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: write that today for your generation? Do you feel? 61 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean, well, A part of it is also like 62 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: I don't think that my generation always thinks that way. 63 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, right, And there's more options. 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: I gee, there's a lot of options. 65 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: I mean, like the thing is that the show was 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: featuring women who, like we're you were looking at those stories, 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: so like it still makes sense. 69 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Oh it makes sense. I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm 70 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: just I like to think at what's different, now, what's 71 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: not different? 72 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't, right, you think he was an opener 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: to not right? 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: And then it also shows it's like, you know, uh, 75 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: here we are in a bar on Saturday night and 76 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: there's just thirty something women every where just hoping to 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: meet their man. I know, it's kind of crazy, right, 78 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: but I mean this was the background of you know, 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. This was like the we still hadn't 80 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: kind of gotten away from it, do you know what 81 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I mean obviously our four characters in 82 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: each and every one, not my character as much, but 83 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: the other three trying to get away from it, trying 84 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: to create their own destiny, you know, make choices. But 85 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that was the place that we were 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: coming from. And that's why our show was like kind 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: of shocking or whatever. So I love all of this opening. 88 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Then we see Samantha. She's on a date with a 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: very handsome man who is named Harrison his character and 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: he's a litigator and they make some weird jokes about 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: a sexual this conversation. Yeah. 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: I was like, this is a dicey conversation today, but like, 93 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: Samantha finds it hilarious, hilarious until he says. 94 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: That she seems like she might be forty one. Yeah, 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: and then she's upset and it just broke my heart 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: because she's so perfect. Who doesn't really look forty one? 97 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Forty one mean it means nothing. That's still really young. Yeah, young, 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: So you don't know. 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I know, I know. 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean what I mean, forty one is nothing. He's like, well, 101 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: you you know you're an older woman, you might be 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: forty one. 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Like it's like, oh yeah. 104 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: But then we find out from Carrie that no, Samantha 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: has been turning thirty five for so many years now, okay. 106 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Also, can I say that that shot of her debating 107 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: what to say there is so long. I was like 108 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: if I asked my friend how old do I look? 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: And they take that long, and they took that long, 110 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: and they like first there lived. It was so funny. 111 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: I was like, so right, it was amazing. 112 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: You're so right. Well, there's some voiceover, so she's got it. 113 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: She's gotta make it worse. Hell no, you're right, it 114 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: was too long. I didn't think about that. I was 115 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: just thinking of the tragedy of the fact that she's 116 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: upset that she might look forty one. I'm just thinking 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: about how wrong and messed up that is. That's what 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: I was thinking about. Oh yeah, but that's because I'm, 119 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, over forty one. So so they're there then 120 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: oh then okay. Then she goes back to his apartment, 121 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: so he says, you might be forty one. She gets 122 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: kind of offended, and she has to excuse herself to 123 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: the bathroom. She looks in the mirror. She touches her face, 124 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 1: which we're gonna see Samantha do many times over the years. 125 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: Touches her face. She's thinking about, you know, how old 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: do I look? Do I need to do something to myself? 127 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: She goes back out. It's so crazy. She goes back out. 128 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: The bedroom's empty, She's looking around and the camera. This 129 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: is an Alan could thing. The camera kind of like 130 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: swings around her in a really cool way that's very organic, 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, very much in sync with how Kim is 132 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: moving in the scene, right, and it swings around. You 133 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: see that the whole bedroom is empty, and she's kind 134 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: of looking around, and he calls to her from a door, 135 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: and she. 136 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: Opens this door and somehow's chained himself up in like 137 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: a you know, BDSM type situation in his own closet, 138 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: and he wants her to slap him really hard. 139 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I was just like our show was crazy. 140 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: Okay, what a thing to walk into. 141 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: Wait, because nineteen ninety nine you just were not seeing 142 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: this on television. 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 144 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: But just also like just just in general and life. 145 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: I know I can't walk into that. 146 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: I probably can't. It's never happened to me. But I 147 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: mean I feel like now there's a lot more room 148 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: for people to have whatever they're into. But I also 149 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: feel like you wouldn't just bring that on somebody like that, 150 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 151 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, also after like they might have been clearly offend. 152 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. She really covers pretty well, 153 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But she clearly was just 154 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: going to do what he was going to do. I mean, 155 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: which is the theme of the men in the first 156 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: couple of years of our show. They're just on their 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: own wavelength. They're going to do their thing, and we're 158 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: either going to come along or we're not, you know 159 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So Samantha doesn't seem that into it. 160 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: She's not. She's not digging it. 161 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: So kind of a surprise. 162 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: It's a surprise, for sure. And Samantha often is very 163 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, amenable, but not this particular time, right, So 164 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: so she now we're at her party. She throws a party, 165 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: and Samantha's telling Miranda and Carrie about Harrison. I'm not 166 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: there because I'm off meeting mister Pussy. I thought to myself, 167 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: like every time we have a scene in the beginning 168 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: with them, I'm like, darn it, I didn't get to 169 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: be that scene because I wassed to feel like I 170 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be get to be in all the group scenes. 171 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: And then I show up. I'm like, oh, thank god, 172 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm at the bar. I'm there. I'm there, so I come. 173 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: They're talking about it, and this is when Miranda says 174 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: they're all freaks in her very Miranda way, and then 175 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: she says, if a man is over thirty and single, 176 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with him. And Carrie asks, but what 177 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: about us, I know, and Miranda says, we're all just 178 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: choosy and she totally believes it, and I'm like. 179 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, such right, such perfect writing. I know, it's perfect audience. 180 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: And the thing I also love about this theme is 181 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: that in the beginning, yes, it does seem like the 182 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: men are freaky, and as the show goes along, we 183 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: also see a female version of freaky. And at the 184 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: very end, she has this beautiful voice over where she says, 185 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, in the end, aren't we all freaks? And 186 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: we're just looking for someone to love our three heads? 187 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: It's so great. It's so great. I love that it 188 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: ends like that, but it's it's a journey. So we're here. 189 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: I show up and I say, you know that I've 190 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: met someone amazing Mitch Saylor, and Samantha says, what, Oh 191 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: my gosh, that is mister pussy. He's a legend. And 192 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean, and she says, what 193 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: he's a legend at and then I'm embarrassed and I'm like, oh, 194 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can date him, then you know, 195 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: this is like Charlotte when she's really torn between You're 196 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: so brutish, thank you, She's torn like I don't know, 197 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do this. And then 198 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: we have one of the many, many close ups of 199 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: this very nice actor eating some crazy food and in 200 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: this case, it's an oyster. And I remember this like 201 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: it was yesterday because there were so many takes where 202 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: he had we all had to watch him and he's 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: just like doing some stuff to that oyster and or 204 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: later on that fig and we just we all have 205 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: to watch him, and it was a lot. I was like, 206 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, that was my thought. I'm 207 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: just thinking, no, no, I couldn't do that. I know 208 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: this actor was committed. 209 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Charlie proud of I know. 210 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Oh listen, we found some committed male actors, okay, and 211 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: this guy was top of the list. I mean, he 212 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: committed to that in every scene without apology. It was 213 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: impressive but also slightly scary. So this is when this 214 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: very wait, oh, this is interesting. We have an adorable 215 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: scene of Carrie getting dressed, which I really love because 216 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: this is where you see sir Jessica's true creativity have 217 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: you ever noticed? Probably not, because you don't. You're not 218 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: rewatching all of them. There's scenes where she's getting dressed 219 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: and there's a voice over and she finds creative ways 220 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: to move about the apartment, finding her different pieces of 221 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: clothing that are slung around. She bumps into walls, she 222 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: trips over things. This is, sir, Jessica's like super special 223 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: physical comedy, which she will tell you she does not have, 224 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: but she one hundred percent is a skilled physical idea is. 225 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: The worst lie she's ever told. 226 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: It's true. It's true because she's just so brilliant at 227 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: it and it's so creative because think about, like when 228 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: I get dressed, I'm super boring, Jared. I'm saying, you know, 229 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: the clothes are like in one area and I put 230 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: them on or whatever, I look at them. I might 231 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: take them back off, but it's not so interesting. Like 232 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: she's so dynamic. It's very interesting. 233 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: So we have a I betye' with a kill anyway. 234 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: No, So then she says that she's going on the 235 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: first blind date she's been on in two years now. 236 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: I feel this is because Carrie's pretty good at finding 237 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: some men to date. She doesn't really need blind dates, 238 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: but she's trying something different because she's broken up with 239 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Big right, She's trying to like reset her dating life. 240 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: So she goes out with this documentarian who made a 241 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: documentary about seagulls. And then it's telling her like, I 242 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: care about making money, you know, I'm just trying to 243 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: make it to the action movies. And she goes really innocently, 244 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: but what about the seagulls, And he's like the seagulls 245 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: and he's smoking in her face. I'm like, oh, bad, bad. 246 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: So she doesn't like him, so then she goes on 247 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: the oh the movie date. They're standing in line at 248 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: the movie theater. I know, a big red flag. I know. 249 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: If this guy just starts shouting at these guys standing behind, 250 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: I know, but this is also a nineteen ninety nine thing. 251 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: She still just stands there with them. She looks embarrassed. 252 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: But like today, if someone just started shouting like angrily, 253 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: like basically trying to excite the guy behind you who 254 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: did nothing, you would leave. Oh yeah, like no woman 255 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: or man really like it would not be okay, right, 256 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: but also you would be like red flag, like you said, 257 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: but back then we were just like, oh, that guy's angry. 258 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: I mean, like you might check like, hey, are you okay, 259 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: like what's going on with you? But that's like you'd 260 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: probably just get out of there. 261 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: Right, But she's just like, oh dear, you know. And 262 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: then she goes like the man with two faces. 263 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: It's crazy how much you guys deal with or. 264 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Dealt with past ten. So that way, because it's a 265 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: different time now, it's a different time. Yes. Then she 266 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: goes on a date with this guy Max, who's really handsome. 267 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: They're basically at the Strand Bookstore, which is a famous, 268 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: famous landmark. I think they're there or there are some 269 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: less interesting books. I think they are, too right, okay, good? 270 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: And he puts a book in the back of. 271 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: His pants he steals and he's like a millionaire or something. 272 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: He's like already rich. So he's just a klepto, I know. 273 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: And also I feel like, now you just be like no, 274 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: you just feel like no, And I mean she is. 275 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: She doesn't go out with him again, but she doesn't leave. 276 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: That's true, she know, I mean, like, but part of 277 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: that is like the most interesting thing about Carrie is 278 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: that like she's just experimenting, right, and so she just 279 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: prays things out because she just wants to know how 280 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: crazy things will get. 281 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: No, I think you're absolutely right. I think she wants 282 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: to write about it. 283 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And it's such a good avenue for like 284 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: crazy dramas that like probably wouldn't happen today because you know, 285 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: just way to stand for it. 286 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. So then she does look straight at 287 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: the camera, which I was taken aback. I thought we 288 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: were done with this looking at the straight at the camera, 289 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: but we're in second season. She looks straight at the 290 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: camera and she says, Okay, now, I was afraid over 291 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the book stealing, which is kind of funny. She wasn't 292 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: afraid over the guy WHOI almost hit the guy, She's 293 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: afraid of the book stealing. So then she goes home 294 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: and looks at this book about actual circus freak shows, 295 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: which is kind of funny and I enjoy. It's very 296 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Allen culture. I'm gonna ask him about it when we 297 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: talk to him. Cut to Charlotte is with mister Pussy 298 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: in bed, and obviously she's gonna do the work. She's 299 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: going to try to do it, even though she told 300 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: the girls that she wasn't going to and he tells 301 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: her to relax, which is kind of funny. I'm like, 302 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: does he know who he's talking to? I don't think so. 303 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: Fine, I know all the nervous giggling that. 304 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: You listen that was real, okay, and watching that's that's 305 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Kristin dying. Yeah, it's Kristin dying that I am having 306 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: to try to act like someone is going down on 307 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: me and I'm going to come on camera. I'm that's 308 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: a very difficult dying. 309 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: Difficult situation. 310 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: Giggle, nervous giggle, nervous giggle, which is exactly what Charlotte's 311 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: going through, which is good. But then it says that 312 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: the montage of Midge going down and apparently we don't talk, 313 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: which we find out later, which is pretty entertaining as well, 314 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: like there's no conversation, it's just this, it's just funny. 315 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: And then it starts the exactly the voiceover says that 316 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: that he goes down to me every day and that 317 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: on Monday Friday, I Charlotte came seven times, which wow, okay, 318 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: I know. First season I had my day where a 319 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: week maybe when I was addicted to the rabbit. Now 320 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm addicted to mister Pussy, you know, and people think 321 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm the prude because that's like out you really. 322 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: I mean, like, come on, we also talked about We've 323 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: talked about it so many times on this podcast. Already 324 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: up the butt, Like it's just like all these things. 325 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: We're like, really slash Cavy, you've talked about show, but 326 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: you know, I don't. This is like if my real 327 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: daughters this tar, I would diag no, it's a dormab. 328 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: I know, this is this. The nervous giggle just came out. 329 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: That was it. 330 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: That was it, That was it. 331 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: That was totally It's so real. 332 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: We're like, it's actually great to Also, Charlotte's character is 333 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: so fun because like you know, if you're a woman 334 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: and you have been in this situation, like that's the 335 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: the first time that you let yourself go like that. 336 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: It's like there's so much giggling with any kind of sex, 337 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: you know, like there's. 338 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: It's true and it's fun. We got to show it, yeah, 339 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: because I feel like sometimes film and TV it's just 340 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: all like oh passion, passion and not real. Yeah. Yeah, 341 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's very relatable, 342 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: very relatable. Okay. So now luckily we move on to 343 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: Carry and she's a Central Park sitting by Bethesda Fountain 344 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: I believe, or maybe is it is it Bethesda? I 345 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: think it's Bethesda, And this adorable guy in glasses is 346 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: sitting near her. His name is Ben. The character's name 347 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: is Ben, and they start chatting, which is so old 348 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: school New York. Know, it's cute, but also I was 349 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: a little worried, like I don't I didn't remember this 350 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: storyline at all for her, like, I don't recognize that guy. 351 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: I have no idea who he is. We could look 352 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: up his name, but I don't remember anything about her storyline. 353 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: So I was watching it as if for the first time. 354 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: And the days where you know, you have no phone, right, 355 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: You're just sitting there looking out in the distance, right, 356 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: and then some guy just chats with you. It's crazy 357 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: like a stranger. 358 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: It really would. It's not as easy today, And that's 359 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: the same thing. So that was also like one of 360 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: the reasons why I was like, whoa mister pussy has, 361 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: like Trevor, like just conversations about this man some woman 362 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 2: in the bathroom just over heres and joins in your conversation, 363 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: these kinds of things. It's like it's a little bit 364 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: harder now, Like that's true, but I will say that 365 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: New York is still more open to that maybe, like 366 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: people just kept starting people. 367 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: People are chatting with me in the elevator yesterday, and 368 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they recognize me. 369 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: Oh that's lovely. 370 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure, but I think I think. 371 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: I mean, I would believe it because I think people 372 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: miss that too. 373 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: I think so teenage. 374 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: So it's nice to see it on camera. 375 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, it's really durable. So these two 376 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: Ben and Carrie start comparing their bad dates, and he 377 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: says he dated a crazy one and she's like, oh yeah, 378 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: I dated a crazy one and then he was dealing 379 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: books or whatever she says. And then he says he 380 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: actually doesn't date because women are bizarre, which is kind 381 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: of funny. And then of course Carrie looks like super normal. 382 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: So then he says he asks her out on a 383 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: non date, and she says a non no, which is 384 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: so charming and adorable, I know, so cute. 385 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: There's a line where she brings up the freaks in 386 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 2: the circus, the world's fattest twins. Yes, and how they 387 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: managed to. 388 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: Find husbands yeah yes. 389 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah, and that they were skinny. And he 390 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: says this line, which is like such a brilliant you 391 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: can interpret it different ways, but like maybe it was 392 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: an optical illusion. 393 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, And I. 394 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: Like upon rewatch. I was so curious if that is 395 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: in reference, like the audience is seeing like an optical illusion, 396 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: or if it's that the spouses just like couldn't if 397 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: like that was the idea. 398 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, we have to ask Jenny Biggs. 399 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: And it's good because it's just like the two ways 400 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: of thinking about this whole thing is like whether or not, 401 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, like Marana thinks there are people who are 402 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: freaks and there are people who are not freaks, and 403 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: we just haven't found the non freaks yet and versus 404 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 2: maybe you just like kind of convince yourself that like 405 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: people aren't freaks, or or like you just don't think 406 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: about them being freaks because you love them so much, 407 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: you know, all these things. Yes, I just really like 408 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: that one line. I think it's great that actually I 409 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 2: gotta talk to Jenny Picks. I don't know, I don't know, definitely. 410 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: And also I thought part of the reason is so 411 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: good is because you can see how Ben and Carry, 412 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: the two characters are kind of on the same wave 413 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: length and could work out, which is why it's said 414 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: what happens because they're kind of meeting in a really interesting, 415 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: kind of somewhat intellectual kind of way, like a theoretical 416 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: intellectual you know, kind of interesting way, which is not 417 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: how she usually meets people. Yes, right, so that's why 418 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: it was like kind of hopeful. But then it doesn't 419 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: go great, but we'll get to that, all right. We're 420 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: cut to Samantha who runs into this lady on the 421 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: sho street who literally I think my hairdresser did her 422 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: hair because we have the exact same hair. Like I 423 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: thought it was me for a second, like, oh no, 424 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: that's not me. I have like a weird little flip 425 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: going on. I don't know what happened to Charlotte's hair. 426 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: It's like flat to my head and then. 427 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: Just flips this the strong side part. 428 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh waist like super side part. I know. I 429 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: don't know what was happening there. But this lady who 430 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: runs into Samantha also has that hairdo looks very nice, 431 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: and Samantha says, oh my god, you look amazing. Elie says, Oh, 432 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: I just had this wonderful thing done. I had the 433 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: fat take it out of my butt and put in 434 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: my face. And she's like, and the best thing is 435 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: you can eat a cheeseburger and then boom, it's in 436 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: your face. It's so good. It's so funny and weird. 437 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: But I do remember this time because back then you 438 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't talk about plastic surgery everywhere with everyone the way 439 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: that people do now, Like now Instagram is all like 440 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: people's new faces blah blah blah blah blah. We didn't 441 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: have Instagram, right, But I remember when fat trans became 442 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 1: like this new thing. We were like what they do? What? Like, 443 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? It was a crazy idea. And 444 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: there were people around, like Upper East Side Manhattan, which 445 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: is where Samantha is, when she runs into this lady 446 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: doing it, and we were like, oh, so and so 447 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: did it? Are you kidding me? We've got to see 448 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: her face? Like we were fascinated. This was the first 449 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: time that I remember, separate from like boob jobs that 450 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: you would hear about people doing, you know, that would 451 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: been a thing for a while. This is the first 452 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: thing that I remember hearing about like face wise, that 453 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: people we knew who were not that much older than 454 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: us were actually doing that. We were just like, oh 455 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: my god, Wow, it was big news, you know what 456 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So they wrote it into the show, which 457 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: I thought was great. And obviously now this is very 458 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: not interesting, I guess comment. 459 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: I mean, like I also think, I guess it is common, 460 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: but it's also like people get a lot of more 461 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: butt injections and like the way that well, listen, this 462 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: is swung over. 463 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: Right, but that yes, because then Samantha says something like 464 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: all this time, we've been trying to hide the fat 465 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: in our buscher. 466 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 2: Maybe Randa said it right. 467 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: But now I mean, this is not true anymore. 468 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you want that there, or like some people 469 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: want that there, you know. 470 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: Not everybody, right, But I mean I spent at least 471 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: a decade trying to hide my ass on the television. 472 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: Like I had a boyfriend at one point who was like, 473 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't like your TV butt as much. I like 474 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: the regular one. And I was like, well, that's why 475 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Yeah, I mean one of the reasons, 476 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: but you don't have a thing. It was a nice 477 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: compliment because I really thought that, like that was not 478 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be there, Like you had to hide that thing. 479 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: So Samantha tells us all that she is going to 480 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: be getting the fat transfer, that she's already gotten a 481 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: light bow and she's wearing a girdle and we have 482 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: to see her in her girdle, which is really entertaining. 483 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: They shoot it very tastefully, and then I say that 484 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm that I'm meeting Mitch. I'm calling him Mitch, And 485 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: then I think, I Charlotte think that we have a 486 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: future together, and they all are just like ugh, and 487 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: Samantha very smartly says, you cannot have a future with 488 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: mister pussy because you haven't even been out to dinner 489 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: or know anything about each other, and she is so right, right. 490 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: So then the weirdly Carrie goes on to double date 491 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: and tries to set Miranda up with a friend of Ben's, 492 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: her glasses guy, and this guy is really cute but 493 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: he has never left Manhattan, which the girls think is bad, 494 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: which I'm like, that's so weird that they think it's bad. 495 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: Well, but it's like, I think it's one thing to 496 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: not leave, but like another thing to like. Also, Scoff 497 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: that's true, somewhere. 498 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: Else to be so aggressive about. Like this guy's very mad, right, 499 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: very mad. But it's funny because I always think of 500 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: them as being so our girls are so Manhattanites, you 501 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean? But whatever, they're like that guy's 502 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: angry whatever. So then I do love this. Miranda says 503 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: that she has to go home and feed her cat, 504 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: which we learned from the voiceover is the code that 505 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Miranda and Carrie have together. 506 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: Have a code? 507 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Did you know? No? I mean I think we would 508 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: just look at each other and just be like. 509 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true by guys, Like if we were in 510 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: that kind of situation, your date probably wasn't even like 511 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: paying enough attention. 512 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: To write to you were like, hey, totally, totally. No, 513 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't think I was creative enough to have a code, 514 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: but I do think it's a really good thing to 515 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: have with your friends. I think it's a good, good idea. 516 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: So then poor Charlotte tries to go on a dinner 517 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: date with mister Pussy and it doesn't go well because 518 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: he has nothing to say. 519 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: He just wants to eat a peach or like what, yeah, 520 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 5: this is a big At that point, I think, yeah, 521 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 5: it's a fig and it is it's a lot going on, 522 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 5: and I'm sitting real close to him, and I had 523 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 5: to just try to keep it together, you know what 524 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: I mean. 525 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: So then poor Samantha has to go off to the 526 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: plastic surgeon and then she says that it's like shopping, 527 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: so she wants to see what else she could get 528 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: while she's there, and he draws all kind of crazy 529 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: pictures on her. And then you see sweet Samantha who's 530 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: so perfect looking in the mirror, and she seems really sad. 531 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: So I felt really bad for her. I felt bad 532 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: for her a couple of times. 533 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: It's actually a really sad episode that with the body 534 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: shaming there, and like. 535 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is this is our culture. This 536 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: was for reals, like the two thousands. I mean there 537 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: are people on the Instagram also like the two thousands 538 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: with the low cut jeans. Yes, it was terrorizing, Okay 539 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: you were too young. 540 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: Well yes, but I saw it, Okay. 541 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: So let's go on with the show. So then, oh, 542 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: this is adorable. So this is when Carrie's with the 543 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: guy in the Glasses Bend she spent the night. It's 544 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: gone really well, he's adorable. He has to go to 545 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: his I believe his soccer game or his football game 546 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: or something in the morning, and he leaves her there, 547 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: and very much like that early episode where Miranda goes 548 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: looking through her dates, private belongings, Carrie just rips through 549 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: this man's thing, I mean, with abandon. She's like like, 550 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: she's like the FBI searching for clues, you know, for 551 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: a murderer, right like, it's a lot, it's a lot. 552 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: She gets carried away to. 553 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: Use a phrase, why they named her Carrie. 554 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: Nope, okay, it comes later. That comes later, But she 555 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: also in the voiceover, says that she's taken over with 556 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: the need to find this man's particular freaky side. 557 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: You know. 558 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: Now she's scared that they're all freaks, and so she's 559 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: trying to find the clues to what kind of freak 560 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: is he? At which point, of course, he comes back 561 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: in the apartment and he's so devastated. And I felt 562 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: really bad for this guy because he's like, you seem normal, 563 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: and she says, yeah, I was. 564 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm sad. 565 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: It's so sad and so sweet at the same time. 566 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: And then she has to leave and I'm like, couldn't 567 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: they try harder? Couldn't they have a deeper conversation, you know, Yeah, 568 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: he I guess didn't want. 569 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: But also I got a I mean, well, I guess 570 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: because it was found their spark was founded on the 571 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: fact that they were both sick of freaks, right, So 572 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: I got I understand where he's coming from. 573 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: It's a good point. 574 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also like, Okay, I gotta say the 575 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: way that they like shot this, the style is different 576 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: with Alan Coulter. Yeah, and like it's very apparent and 577 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: like Carrie, I don't know if this wasn't I read 578 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: it like she really wasn't actually as passionate in this episode, 579 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: Like there was something about it where like it felt 580 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: their chemistry was sweet, but I didn't feel anything. No, 581 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: you're so right, And I actually was like, oh, they're 582 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: really painting it. They're like, oh, if you're not a freak, 583 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: you're just so boring. This guy played it perfectly. The 584 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: guy played it perfectly. But I was just like, I 585 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: don't remember who you don't even know. 586 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember him at all. No, he made no 587 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: impression on me. She's so boring. I know. That's interesting. 588 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that. Yeah, but I think That's 589 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: also why I thought, oh, maybe this is good and 590 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: then and then suddenly it's not. But I also think, 591 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, this reminds me of something Sarah said to 592 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: me when I tried to talk to her about Big, 593 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: And of course she's been in it so long. I 594 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: don't know why I thought she could talk objectively about Big, 595 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: but one of the things she did say was that 596 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Carrie is exotic to Big. Right. Big is not creative. 597 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: Big is not you know, full of feelings and conflicted 598 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: and all the different things that Carrie is. Right, so 599 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: she's exotic to him, which I kind of forget about. 600 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: And then like, if you think about this with this guy, 601 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: she's too much for that guy. Yeah, you know, yeah, 602 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: And that's why her freaky side comes out, like trying 603 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: to find the secrets that he's keeping because he seems 604 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: so normal, but I think in reality he was just 605 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: normal and possibly boring. 606 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: He wants to go see a soccer game, like I 607 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: feel like in nineteen ninety nine, that's that's supposed to 608 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: mean that you're kind. 609 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: Of No, No, that was super common, but that's what 610 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, right, No, I just mean, like all the 611 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: crazy people went to the soccer games and the baseball 612 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: games as well, Like on the weekend in Central Park, 613 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: like that thing was full of people playing soccer and baseball. Okay, okay, okay, 614 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: in the olden days, you know it really was, It wasn't. 615 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: I just don't know how to get out of my 616 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: understand hubble whatever it is. 617 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: My Yeah, your apartment. You don't want to go, No, 618 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: I do. 619 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: I Actually I don't want to be homebody. 620 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to many people. 621 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: Who are like active and good with I don't know 622 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: what to say anymore. 623 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: You're funny, you're double. This is what happens towards the 624 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: end of a podcast. You're just saying stuff. You don't 625 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: know what. Let me just read the last thing. This 626 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: is good. No, this is how I feel too, voiceover 627 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: of Carrie's saying, I became the woman, the frightening woman 628 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: whose fear ate her sanity. That's a pretty deep She's 629 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: a very interesting thing. I mean, I think I've definitely 630 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: felt that way before in my life. Where if you haven't, what. 631 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: If you haven't, you're not examining yourself closely enough. 632 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: Most definitely, No, No, I do think that's true. But 633 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I also think like, if you've lived at all, right 634 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: and taken chances, taking risks, gone out of your comfort zone, 635 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, been vulnerable to somebody like you, You're going 636 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: to feel a little crazy at some point. Yeah, you 637 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: know you're gonna feel a little crazy, a little freakish. 638 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose your sanity. This is all part of it. 639 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: And then she says the adorable thing about how if 640 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: you're single, everyone gets freaked out from time to time, 641 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: but you can still have hope. It's adorable, but a 642 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: little bit sad, but adorable. I loved all of our storylines. 643 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: I thought they were super interesting. Yeah, I mean, did 644 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: you think how young we were when you watch this? 645 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: Were you like look at them the little children? 646 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: Well, okay, part of it is also on this show 647 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: most of the time, I'm getting to see you be 648 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: my mom. Yes, and then this episode you not your mom. No, no, no, 649 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: you are. 650 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: Not missing like you really are not. 651 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: And and so it was it's always like fun on 652 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: the rewatch, like just seeing as we talked about on 653 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: I guess the previous episode. Yeah, your growth of like 654 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: you're experiencing so many new things, but at the same time, 655 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: like you've had this you've always had this like desire 656 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: for like a family, and like watching that version of 657 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 2: a woman who like also gets to be kind of 658 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: like kiddish at times. And this episode, yeah, you know, 659 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: like it's it's very endearing to like see that through 660 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: line though. 661 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeay for sure, Yeah, I agree. I mean, yeah, Charlotte 662 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: definitely has her hope, and she has her her innocent 663 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: side and also her fear. You know, she has some 664 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: fear about things, but she also tries stuff, which is 665 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, great, that's you're not a. 666 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: Prude who says that you're really not approved? 667 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kathy. I agree. So many people for like 668 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: ten years thought thought that Charlotte was a prude, and 669 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: wherever I went, they'd be like, oh, you're the prude, 670 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, whatever. 671 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: I guess you're the prude in the sense that, like 672 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: sometimes you don't like talking about it, right, but you 673 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: actually just love doing it. 674 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what well. I think Also, it's 675 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: all in relationship, right, So Samantha talks a big game, 676 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: but then sometimes in these early episodes you really see 677 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: the vulnerable side of her two you know, which I 678 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: think is also like just the great writing and acting 679 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: of everybody like everyone has both sides, right, But I 680 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: think because there were four of us and we were 681 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: all so different, everyone kind of got pigeonholed, like, oh, 682 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: Charlotte is the prude, it wants to get married. Veranda 683 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: is the cynic, you know, Carrie is the dreamer whatever. 684 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what they think of whatever. I don't 685 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: know how to describe Gary the complicated one. And Samantha 686 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: is the you know how what are the how do 687 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: we describe Samantha? She's the you know, the or free 688 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: she's free, Daniel, how would you she's the free spirit, yes, 689 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: free spirit, and she's she's she's bold. She does whatever 690 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: she wants without apology. 691 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: In her work too, it's the same, like it's the 692 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: same for sure. 693 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: Very bold. Yeah, I agree, she's bold and doesn't apologize, 694 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: takes no prisoners. 695 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: I know even some of them will just show up 696 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: in a closet for her. 697 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: She need do, no, she doesn't need to do what 698 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: a woman. Well, Kathy, thank you for being with us 699 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: for a whole adventure. It's a fun day. 700 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: This was a really fun day with us. I love 701 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: hanging out with you. I love hanging out with you. 702 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: Also, I love to hear a different perspective from a 703 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: much younger person on our old episodes. It's really helpful. 704 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: Well I feel like we're on the same page. 705 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: We definitely are, but it's interesting just to hear you go, 706 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, that wouldn't be okay now, like you know, 707 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: it's just like a no brainer for you. Oh yeah no, 708 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: that would be a red flag, you know, Like that's 709 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: what I love about your generation. You're just like, yeah, no, 710 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: that's not good, No, that's not okay. 711 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: It's because shows like this have existed where the people 712 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 2: started examining the behavior. I cannot believe. I mean every 713 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: person that I talk to, and there's so many people 714 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: who are my age who are watching it for the 715 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: first time and they're like, this was twenty years ago, 716 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: this is so oh yeah, this is oh my goodness. 717 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, this was thirty years ago, and they're like, amaze, 718 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: how relevant it is relevant it is today, And then like, yeah, 719 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 2: it's just it's complicated. The story is complicated, and like 720 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: it's like such a deep dive into romance. 721 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 1: I know, and expectations. Yeah yeah, now. 722 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: I didn't think about that growing up. 723 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: No, I don't think I thought about these things growing up, 724 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: either yeah, yeah, or like. 725 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: I didn't have the foresight to question societal dating behavior. 726 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: I had the foresight to question some assumptions because I 727 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: grew up in this very southern thing where everyone was 728 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: expected to get married at the first possible chance, which 729 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: I just thought was very, very weird. So I was like, no, yeah, 730 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: that was me though, Yeah, wasn't anybody else that I knew? 731 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, that's why you're on the show. 732 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: That is why I'm on the show. That is why 733 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm on the show. That's why I'm so lucky that 734 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: I found the show. I mean, obviously lucky in many 735 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: different ways, but yeah, it really I really was like, yes, 736 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: this is special, this is different. I love it. I know, 737 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. We'll have to have you back. 738 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know when we're going to go back to work. 739 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: I know we'll just be here. 740 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: May happen. Yeah, if not, then we'll just start our 741 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 2: own podcast. 742 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: Totally. You would Alexa could have a young person's podcast. 743 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, we can do a multi 744 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 2: generational three of us if we do one. Can you imagine? 745 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: It's so funny? Yeah, I can't even imagine what she 746 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: was would just. 747 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: Do so like half of the time I would just 748 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: be asking, like, what does that word mean that you 749 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: just came up with? Please please update me on the slang, which. 750 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: I know what everyone says, but it's I know, I 751 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: know her group has a different I know, Gemma, my 752 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: daughter has the same group, and yeah she has to. 753 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: She gives me definitions. You know that's good. 754 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 2: That's really sweet of Gemma. 755 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: It is it is kids. 756 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: Could you please keep doing that without judging us first. 757 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: They judge like they judge it. Okay, they roll arrive, 758 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: It's fine, fine, I. 759 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: Get it all right. 760 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for joining us. Come back next time.