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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 3: This is KSR Kentucky Sports Radio, a special edition that

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Speaker 3: we're gonna do here for three to five with the

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Speaker 3: end of the John Caliperi era and what is next.

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Speaker 3: We the last time we did a show like this,

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Speaker 3: I believe, Billy, was when the Twins were coming back, right,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't that the last time, Well, you weren't even

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Speaker 3: around back when the Twins decided to return in the

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Speaker 3: spring of twenty fourteen. I think that's the last time

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Speaker 3: we've broken in and done one of these. But we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do it because this is a historic moment in

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Speaker 3: UK basketball. So we're gonna first of all, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: take calls. I'm gonna do an intro, but this is

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Speaker 3: gonna be like the postgame show. I really want to

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Speaker 3: focus on you guys. I want to hear what you

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Speaker 3: all think, meaning the UK fan base. What do you

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Speaker 3: think about the end of the Caliperri era and what's next?

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Speaker 3: That's really what this show is about, is a chance,

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Speaker 3: just like at the end of a postgame. It's a

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Speaker 3: chance for you to talk. Caliperry made a statement today

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Speaker 3: this afternoon around two o'clock saying he was resigning. The

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Speaker 3: thought is that he will join Arkansas. It will potentially

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Speaker 3: be announced by Arkansas, probably while we're on the air, honestly,

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Speaker 3: but certainly in the next few hours. But most importantly

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Speaker 3: for our sake, he will not be the coach at Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: I want to play for you. His statement. In total,

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Speaker 3: it's about four minutes. It was filmed at his house

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Speaker 3: be honest with you, I think he looks sad. I'm

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Speaker 3: just being real. I think that's what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: But we're gonna go ahead and play here, Billy, go

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Speaker 3: ahead and play. This is cal statement saying goodbye to

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Speaker 3: the Kentucky fan base.

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Speaker 4: Since our season ended, Ellen and I have spent a

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Speaker 4: lot of time thinking about our time here at Kentucky,

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Speaker 4: what it means to us, the friends we've made on

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Speaker 4: that court. Regional championships, conference championships, final fours, the national

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Speaker 4: title in twenty twelve. It's been a beautiful time for us.

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Speaker 4: This is a dream job. It was my dream job.

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Speaker 4: Anybody in our profession looks at the University of Kentucky

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Speaker 4: and basketball and said that is the bluest of blue.

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Speaker 4: The last few weeks, we've come to realize that this

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Speaker 4: program probably mean to hear another voice, that the university

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Speaker 4: as a whole has to have another voice giving guidance

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Speaker 4: about this program that they hear and the fans need

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Speaker 4: think it's time for us to step away and step

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Speaker 4: away completely from the program. There have been opportunities that

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Speaker 4: have been presented to us, so we're discussing them as

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Speaker 4: a family. I love coaching. I love coaching young people.

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Speaker 4: I love this year's team. I loved every day walking in.

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Speaker 4: They've invigorated me. I love the chase for championships. I

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Speaker 4: love bringing the kids together. It's what I do, It's

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Speaker 4: who I am. Let me start, though, I've got to

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Speaker 4: thank the players in the families that I've had the

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Speaker 4: privilege of coaching, because they've entrusted me with their son

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Speaker 4: over thirty of the guys have graduated six and three years.

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Speaker 4: What they've done in this community to give back to

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Speaker 4: And I think they all know that I'm not going

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Speaker 4: all the people that worked to help us have the

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Speaker 4: And the fans, the BBN, all that you've done to

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Speaker 5: It's been.

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Speaker 4: A dream what we've been able to do. But fifteen years,

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Speaker 3: So that was cal Perry's final statement to the Big

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Speaker 3: remember what's ending. A great run by John Calpennion, John

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Speaker 3: cal Perry, ten years of absolute excellence and a totality

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Speaker 3: of a fifteen year career that really was a great time.

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Speaker 3: It's the right time for it to end, but it

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Speaker 3: say it's the local Toyter Dealers KSR postgame show, but

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Speaker 3: and at that point that is what led to those conversations,

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Speaker 3: let's get started, Billy, who's up first. David is up first, David,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, David.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, I'll try to make this really quick. A

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Speaker 11: Hey, Matt, I was the guy that called in twenty

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Speaker 9: the first three big guys is like, is Mitch savvy

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Speaker 9: Like, if he's savvy enough to to not like stick

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Speaker 9: No, no, I mean no, I just I worry so

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Speaker 3: Like let's not well, whether or not the deal is

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Speaker 13: We saw what happened there. I mean, I'm not making

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Speaker 13: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's me.

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Speaker 13: And so I guess that that really brings my question

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Speaker 13: I remember about two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna keep doing with this. Whoever the next

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Speaker 8: Hey, I'm good, guys, quick comment and some kind of question. So,

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Speaker 8: So not sad that it's over, but happy that it

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Speaker 8: Do you think that cal would have stayed if Barnhart

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Speaker 3: But I also think Kentucky was not unhappy to get

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Speaker 3: out of a thirty three million dollar deal. To be

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Speaker 3: honest with you, right, I think that's I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 3: I think I'll be honest. I think cal Perry made

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Speaker 3: a mistake. Cal Perry's been one of the great tacticians

436
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Speaker 3: of PR his first decade here, I think he made

437
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Speaker 3: a mistake. I think he made a mistake for the

438
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Speaker 3: last three or four years in thinking, especially the last

439
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Speaker 3: two years, that he had like universal support and he

440
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Speaker 3: dismissed any critics as being like a tiny minority. And

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Speaker 3: I don't think he realized how much of the fan

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Speaker 3: base he had lost so then and when he lost

443
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Speaker 3: to Oakland and it kind of hit him in the phase,

444
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Speaker 3: he was a little shocked. And I think he thought

445
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Speaker 3: that he had more leverage with UK than he did.

446
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Speaker 3: And I think when he talked to Arkansas now, maybe

447
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Speaker 3: he wants to be at Arkansas, and maybe that's what

448
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Speaker 3: he's wanted the whole time. I don't know, but if

449
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: the hinting that maybe he had some second thoughts was true,

450
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Speaker 3: I think he made a big tactical error talking to

451
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Speaker 3: Arkansas because he gave Kentucky the out that they didn't have.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Mitch Barnhart was going to spend thirty

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Speaker 3: three million dollars on a buyout or thirty five or

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Speaker 3: whatever it was. I think it was there for him,

455
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Speaker 3: but I don't think he wanted to do it, And

456
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Speaker 3: when he talked to Arkansas, he technically violated the contract,

457
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Speaker 3: and I think it gave Kentucky and out if they

458
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Speaker 3: needed it. And while I think Mitch would have been

459
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Speaker 3: fine and UK would have been fine with him coming back,

460
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Speaker 3: I don't think that crying that they got out of

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Speaker 3: this deal that has been difficult for him in the

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Speaker 3: last year or two. We'll take a break. Uh eight,

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Speaker 3: I'm eighty seven. We're gonna be on till five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is the KSR.

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Speaker 3: I want keep wanting to say local Twitter dealers, It's

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Speaker 3: a KSR special edition show. If I'm nine eighty seven,

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Speaker 3: go ahead and give us a call. The arc. John

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Speaker 3: cal Perry's lawyer has has chimed deal. So Dick Gabriel,

469
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Speaker 3: of course had the report that Cal counter offered uk Uh.

470
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Speaker 3: I put out Gabriel's report. Arkansas fans act like that

471
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Speaker 3: I am the one who did it. That was Dick

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Speaker 3: Gabriel's report. But the Cal's lawyer responded with text messages

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Speaker 3: from UK according to him, that say he didn't have

474
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Speaker 3: a counter offer. But it's also interesting cal Perry's lawyer

475
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Speaker 3: is in Arkansas and is from Arkansas. I guess his

476
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Speaker 3: name's Tom Mars. Sometimes, Billy, the truth is right in

477
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Speaker 3: front of your nose and you never hear it. Like

478
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Speaker 3: I always had heard that Cow's lawyer was named Tom Mars.

479
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Speaker 3: I did not know he lived in Arkansas.

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Speaker 12: That's too strange to be true.

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Speaker 3: How crazy is that Col's lawyer is is U was

482
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Speaker 3: an Arkansas guy? So you know, like I said, I

483
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Speaker 3: think the details of that meeting yesterday at Cal's house

484
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Speaker 3: will be debated for a long time, and I I

485
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Speaker 3: feel pretty confident Cal had second thought slash cold feet.

486
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Speaker 3: I'm not confident in saying that he like definitely wanted

487
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Speaker 3: to come back, but I'm pretty sure that you know

488
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Speaker 3: he had second thoughts, but I think Mitch Barnhardt said,

489
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Speaker 3: you don't get second thoughts. We're all going to have

490
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Speaker 3: to move on. So that's what happened. What's next? John?

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Speaker 3: Is next? John? Go ahead?

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Speaker 14: Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. A couple of things. One,

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Speaker 14: you know, that's a that was a pretty good video

494
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Speaker 14: that Cal came out and said, But if it's your

495
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Speaker 14: dream job, how come where's the results in the last

496
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Speaker 14: five years? You know, Like to me, you know, you've

497
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Speaker 14: had a lot of chances. Even in what twenty twenty,

498
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Speaker 14: when they were like nine and sixteen, the coach could

499
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Speaker 14: have been fired if it was anybody else, I mean,

500
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Speaker 14: had multiple years to perform better.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, listen, he's the only reason he kept

502
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Speaker 3: the job as long as he did was because of

503
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Speaker 3: the success he had at the beginning. But any one standards,

504
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: the last four years have not been Kentucky standards. Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I saw a video Patino came out and said, and

507
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Speaker 14: I know a lot of people don't like free Patino,

508
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Speaker 14: but he said, play for the name on the front

509
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Speaker 14: of the jersey.

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Speaker 8: And then on the back.

511
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Speaker 14: Will your name on the back will prosper if you

512
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Speaker 14: play for the name, you will prosper and that kind

513
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Speaker 14: of has stuck with me throughout pretty much my whole

514
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Speaker 14: life being a UK fan, and I think they've kind

515
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Speaker 14: of just went away from.

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Speaker 3: That, so they me no that Cow's philosophy was different.

517
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: Cow's pilosity philosophy was play for the players, do everything

518
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Speaker 3: for the players. It'll work out for the team. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that philosophy is wrong, but it's a

520
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Speaker 3: very different philosophy then, for instance, what Danny Hurley said

521
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Speaker 3: where he said you guys are pros, Now I expect

522
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Speaker 3: you to sort of produce and work like pros. Those

523
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Speaker 3: are two completely different philosophies and both philosophies have been successful.

524
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Speaker 3: But the question is in twenty twenty four going forward,

525
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Speaker 3: which one is the best one? Right?

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Speaker 8: So I agree.

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Speaker 14: I just hopefully we can get somebody that's planned for

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Speaker 14: the name on the front.

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Speaker 3: I think you will. I think you will. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: the call, you know, it's a natural I think inclination

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Speaker 3: when something ends that people will look for the opposite

532
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Speaker 3: the next time. And I think that Mitch is going

533
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Speaker 3: to be very very careful in his next coach to

534
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Speaker 3: make sure it's someone who is Kentucky first instead of

535
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Speaker 3: players first? Not that I think players first is wrong.

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Speaker 3: I've defended that for many years. But I think there

537
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Speaker 3: was a exhaustion at UK kind of with that rhetoric,

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Speaker 3: and I think they're looking for something something different this time.

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Speaker 3: What's next, Brad, Brad? Go ahead, Brad.

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Speaker 2: Or some fellas.

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Speaker 15: I want to s preface this by by saying, I

542
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 15: have the utmost respect for both of these men. But

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Speaker 15: if we're sitting at the boardroom table, convince.

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Speaker 2: Me how.

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Speaker 15: How Drew is not Tubby two point zero if you

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Speaker 15: extrapolate his career.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me give you the case for Scott Drew.

548
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Speaker 3: Let me give you the case and then you tell

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Speaker 3: me if you buy it or not. Is that fair?

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Speaker 15: So let me cheer and and I'm and I'm the

551
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Speaker 15: guy that called in maybe a month ago and made

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Speaker 15: the host Scott Drew's screw Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: If you remember, let me let me just give you

554
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Speaker 3: the case. I mean, I would I think Danny Hurley

555
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: is more of a slam dunk, but here would be

556
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: the case for Scott Drew. Scott Drew came to Baylor

557
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: in two thousand and five. I believe there was a

558
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Speaker 3: murder investigation where one of the players get let me

559
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: make the case, okay, and then you respond. There was

560
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Speaker 3: a murder investigation where one of the players was alleged

561
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: to have tried to kill the other. I don't even

562
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: remember the details. In the history of Baylor basketball, before

563
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: two thousand and five, they had been to one NCAA tournament,

564
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Speaker 3: one one in Waco, Texas, which ain't the best place

565
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: in the world. Over the course of the next twenty years,

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Speaker 3: he builds them into a consistent NCAA tournament participant. He

567
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: wins the national championship in twenty twenty one. He had

568
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: a shot at winning it in twenty twenty when the

569
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Speaker 3: tournament was canceled. They were the number one seed and

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Speaker 3: the second overall team in America. He was I think

571
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Speaker 3: the number one or number two overall seed in twenty

572
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Speaker 3: twenty two, and he's contended for the Big Twelve every

573
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Speaker 3: year and he has been a one to two or

574
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Speaker 3: three seed the last six years. Now here's the counter

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Speaker 3: to it. He has a lot of first weekend losses.

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Speaker 3: He has a lot of first weekend losses. So that's

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Speaker 3: the case. If I were making the case for Scott

578
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Speaker 3: Drew I would say he's done all that at Baylor,

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Speaker 3: which before he got there, was probably, along with Northwestern

580
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: and Vanderbilt, the worst Power five job in America, and

581
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Speaker 3: he ended up winning a national championship. Imagine what he

582
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Speaker 3: could do at Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: All right now, So my counter to that would be

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Speaker 2: that I would give you those early.

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Speaker 15: Years, and I would say that he did he did

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Speaker 15: a great turnaround. But to my to my knowledge, we

587
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 15: have what eight years of of miss tournaments, and.

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Speaker 3: All in the early years, though all in the early years,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't he hadn't missed it. He had I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's missed a tournament in the last eight.

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Speaker 2: And I guess from a budgetary standpoint.

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Speaker 15: I guess here's here where here's what would be where

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Speaker 15: I would go, you're going, you're gonna you're gonna overpay.

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Speaker 15: For my opinion, a guy that's on.

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Speaker 3: You don't even have to overpay. He only makes two

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00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: point seven million dollars right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I still think I still think he's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Ask he's gonna ask for five. He's gonna ask for

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Speaker 3: five or six, but that's probably four or five less

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Speaker 3: than you're get paying right now.

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Speaker 15: I think I mean, this is just my humble opinion.

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Speaker 15: I think I think if you can't get to the

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Speaker 15: two home run hits, I think you go. I think

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Speaker 15: you go with young Tommy Lloyd at a at a

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Speaker 15: at a ballpark.

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Speaker 3: Basically Okay, but what has he ever won?

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Speaker 15: I mean, he's doing great at Arizona.

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Speaker 3: How did they do it? How did they do in that?

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Speaker 3: How did they do in the tournament this year?

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Speaker 2: I mean they've done about it.

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Speaker 15: They did it about as good as Baylor did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but but he's never won a national title. Has

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Speaker 3: Tommy Lloyd ever even been to the second weekend of

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Speaker 3: the tournament ever?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: He has with Gonzaga.

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Speaker 3: He was an assistant at Gonzaga.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was there for twenty years. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's a well Listen, and if.

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Speaker 3: You want Tommy Lloyd more than Scott Drew, that's reasonable

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Speaker 3: if that's your opinion, But don't act like it's based

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Speaker 3: on performance. If you're worried about Scott Drew his performance,

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Speaker 3: then you can't want Tommy Lloyd because his performance is

624
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Speaker 3: not nearly as good yet.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm saying off potential, that's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he does have potential. Yes, I would agree

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 15: Like I'm saying, and I'm not trying to I'm not

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Speaker 15: trying to despair Scott Drew.

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Speaker 2: I want to get that out there. I mean, I

631
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Speaker 2: think and Tobby Smith.

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Speaker 15: Being merely respect both of those gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. Tommy Lloyd is not a bad thing,

635
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: but you're taking a huge risk with him. You are,

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Speaker 3: But that's probably going to be true of anyone after Donovan,

637
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 3: Hurley and Drew, You're probably taking risk with anybody else.

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00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: To be fair to the caller, Who's next, Zach, Zach?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Zach, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 16: I got one questions?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, if we strike out on Hurley and we strike

643
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Speaker 17: out on Donovan, say why is Drew the number third options?

644
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Speaker 3: Well? Who would you pick instead? Well, because I think

645
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: the question is who.

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Speaker 16: Bruce Pearl And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl ever won.

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Speaker 17: Okay, let me okay? He will bring excitement back to

649
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Speaker 17: the program for one would all right?

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Speaker 8: He would?

651
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Speaker 17: He would run through a wall to be a coach

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Speaker 17: of Kentucky. We need something, we need somebody at head.

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Speaker 16: Coach is as hungry as the.

654
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Speaker 17: Fame basis, and I don't see Scott Drew being that guy.

655
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Speaker 17: I mean, he's pretty much just like a unseasoned Raymond

656
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Speaker 17: Noodle to me. I mean, all right, take you take

657
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 17: away that national title he's got.

658
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Speaker 3: I mean, but that's a pretty big thing to take away,

659
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Speaker 3: because you're right, how many how many coaches have ever

660
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: won a title that's still coach? It's like seven. No,

661
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: you're right, You're absolutely right.

662
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Speaker 17: I mean, I'm not knocking Scott. I'm just talking about

663
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Speaker 17: four Kentucky. Bruce Pearl would bring the exciting about he

664
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Speaker 17: interacts with the fans.

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Speaker 3: That's what I agree with that. I do agree with that.

666
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: I do agree that off the court, I appreciate the call.

667
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: Nobody would get this fan base more than Bruce Pearl

668
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: off the court. And if Bruce Pearl is a coach,

669
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Speaker 3: I'll be alright with it. So that's also a reasonal opinion,

670
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: I don't want the first guy that called for me

671
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: to actually like, like, Tommy Lloyd's a reasonable opinion too.

672
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's not. I just it's it's just

673
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Speaker 3: odd to me how quick we dismiss a guy who

674
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Speaker 3: won a national title. I mean, who's still coaching Billy

675
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: that has a national title? Cal Rick is oh Hurley, Yeah?

676
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Speaker 3: I mean who else? Who am I missing? Self? Yeah? Bill?

677
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: Is that it? I think I can't think of another one.

678
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 3: There's only six dudes besides Scott True who have a title.

679
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Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

680
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Speaker 12: Unseasoned Noodle is probably like that favorite line, Christy.

681
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Speaker 3: Christy, by the way, do we let me ask you

682
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: about commercials? Here? Do we have to take these? I mean,

683
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: I know this is an unscheduled show, Like, how many

684
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: do I need to take?

685
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 12: Well, we need to break about now.

686
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: If you've got Christy, go ahead.

687
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Speaker 6: Hey, my question is about Scott Drews. So it works

688
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 6: out pretty great with the conversations.

689
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Speaker 18: Ben.

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Speaker 6: Basically, I feel Scott drew is just a cow two

691
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Speaker 6: point oh. So I was shocked when the other callers

692
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 6: said Tubby two point zero. He's really good at recruiting.

693
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Speaker 6: He has a lot of freshman's coming in who have

694
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Speaker 6: a lot of talent, and I just want to know

695
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Speaker 6: how that's going to be any different than what we've

696
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Speaker 6: been experiened.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, he doesn't does do freshmen. He's

698
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: he he when he won a national championship, I believe

699
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 3: he started five transfers.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's interesting.

701
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: No, he is a good RECRUI but like in this

702
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Speaker 3: year's class. To just give an example of his difference

703
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: in philosophy, it cal I think has six freshmen that

704
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna come here, Baylor, I think it only has three.

705
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: So like he goes and gets two or three guys

706
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: and then has transfers. So that's it's just a difference

707
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Speaker 3: in philosophy.

708
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Speaker 6: But go ahead, and then my other thing is completely unrelated.

709
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Speaker 6: How would you feel about lance Ware in the portal.

710
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Speaker 3: Coming back Love Lancewear Love to? I mean, I appreciate

711
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: the call. If he ended up coming, that'd be awesome.

712
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: I mean I doubt he would because his coach isn't

713
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 3: here anymore. But I'm a huge Lancewear fan. Think he's great.

714
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: We'll take a break. If i've nine two eighth twenty

715
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: two eighty seven, Billy's making me go to break, yell

716
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: at him. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back, Teke

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Speaker 3: you Sports Radio. If I've nine two eighth twenty two

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Speaker 3: eighty seven, some folks right now, one person rights Matt

719
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: uh Well. First of all, Tony Bennett was the other one.

720
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: We didn't name Tony Bennet's the other coach, So only

721
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: seven coaches right now besides Drew have a national champion.

722
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: Tony Bennett is the other. One person, Rights, Matt, I

723
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: think Scott Drew's resume is not very good, but I

724
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: would say to you who has a better one? And

725
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: that's what makes it hard. Yeah, I mean that's the thing.

726
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 3: So somebody said this I saw on a message board,

727
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: and I think they're right. There's a strong case to

728
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: be made that if we hired Scott Drew, he'd have

729
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 3: the best resume of any coach to ever be hired

730
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Speaker 3: at Kentucky. Wow. I mean Rick had been to one

731
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: final four, Tubby had been to none, Joe b had

732
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Speaker 3: never coached. I don't know if Eddie maybe had been

733
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Speaker 3: to one. Cal had been to two but hadn't won

734
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: the title. And Cal had missed the tournament seven of

735
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: his first seventeen years. So you do also have to

736
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: recognize that this job makes the coach better, right, I mean,

737
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: this job makes you better. So you know, one person, Rights, Matt,

738
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 3: you're talking like Scott Drew is already the coach. I'm not.

739
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm just look, I'm just giving you my opinion of

740
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 3: the choices out there, Danny Hurley's my first choice, Bill

741
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: Well first of all. Jay writes my first choice, Danny

742
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: Hurley's my second choice, Billy Donovan's my third one. But

743
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Speaker 3: as of now the names i've heard, the fourth choice

744
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: for me would be Scott Drew, but the first three

745
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: choices to me should have universal approval. One person writes, Matt,

746
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: would you rather have your first choice of coach or president?

747
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: Great question? If I get to pick who the president

748
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Speaker 3: is like not between the two choices we have, but

749
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Speaker 3: in general, then give me president. I'm not going I

750
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: don't know about the otherwise. One person rights, of the

751
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: names you've heard, Matt, who would you not want? That's

752
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: a great question. So here are the names who someone

753
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: has mentioned to me in the last forty eight hours.

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00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: These are all the names that have come up in

755
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: conversations i've had. You know, I've already told you I

756
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: think Hurley, Drew, and Donovan are the top choices. But

757
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: here are the other names I've heard. I've heard Jay

758
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: Wright would love to have it heard, Chris Beard have

759
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: some reservations, but I'd be all right. I've heard Shaka Smart,

760
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: don't love that one, but you know, I could be

761
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: talked into it, but I don't love it. The only

762
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: name I've heard associated that would worry me and that

763
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be excited about is Sean Miller, but like

764
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: if he's a coacher, I'm more a rally behind it.

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Speaker 3: I have yet to hear a name that I think

766
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Speaker 3: is like definitely a disaster. I think. I hate to

767
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: say this, but like i've heard Mark Pope, I don't

768
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: know about that. Like I you know, I think you

769
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: got to do some stuff or like Mark Pope would

770
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: not be a guy that would be considered if he

771
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: hadn't gone to Kentucky. And I don't think you hire

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Speaker 3: guys because they went here. I'm strong believer of that.

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Speaker 12: Who's neck did you mention Patino?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean, look Rick, it would be exciting if Frick

776
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 3: was here, but I think you need to go younger

777
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: than that. So Chris, Chris, what's up?

778
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 8: Chris hey man? Thanks taking the call. I just want

779
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 8: to give my quick input on Cal's era and then

780
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 8: just asking a real quick questions about coaching. So in general,

781
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Speaker 8: you know, at the end of Tubby and gilast few years,

782
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 8: you know, our biggest struggle was having with talent, and

783
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Speaker 8: when they hired Cal, they brought in the talent. He

784
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 8: brought in the talent. It really elevated us to the

785
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Speaker 8: top of the mountain. But again bringing in those premiere

786
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Speaker 8: players and also helped winning that national championship. But you know,

787
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 8: as the years went on with his lifeluster results, you know,

788
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 8: the fan base was getting aggravated with his coaching style

789
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 8: and also just like I said, just not producing in

790
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Speaker 8: the tournament. So you know, in my mind, I'm going

791
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 8: to be appreciative of Cal. I'll kind of sum it

792
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 8: up as the years of like what could have been

793
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 8: with Cal. Yes, we did win that national championship and

794
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Speaker 8: it really helped us out a lot, but I really

795
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 8: think he could have done a lot more less.

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Speaker 3: Two things would have been way different if they had

797
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: happened to Cal. One is if we won it in

798
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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, because we should have. And the second was

799
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Speaker 3: if we had made the final four in twenty nineteen

800
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Speaker 3: against Auburn. If those two games go differently, if you

801
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: beat Wisconsin and you beat Auburn, we look at Col's

802
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: probably still the coach here today. Those two things I

803
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: think made a huge, huge impact on how we view

804
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: all of this. What's your next thing?

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Speaker 8: The second thing is I kind of agree with you

806
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Speaker 8: with some of the coaching. I would say Hurley would

807
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 8: be my first pick, followed by Drew. I don't think

808
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 8: Jay is an auption just because he's in broadcasting, and

809
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 8: we've seen this before many times. Once he's once these

810
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 8: coaches getting broadcasting, it's really hard for them to leave. Billy.

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Speaker 8: I just don't think he's had this option before with Kentucky,

812
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 8: and he turned us down twice already. I don't think

813
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 8: he's gonna do it again. Even if something happens with Chicago,

814
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 8: I just don't see it happen with Billy. But beyond,

815
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 8: like Hurley and Drew, I'm what I'm curious about. Let's

816
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 8: say that both of those fall through. I think Hurley

817
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 8: might have a chance just because the money could be

818
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 8: there for us.

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Speaker 3: I don't think, okay, but what do you What are

820
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: you gonna say besides I mean, less than your thinks

821
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: have thought of, they'll happen. What do you want about

822
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: the other ones? Though?

823
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 20: Well?

824
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Speaker 8: Uh, Drew, I think is okay, But well, I'm curious

825
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 8: about if those fall through, what is gonna be our

826
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 8: options because I don't don't know.

827
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Speaker 3: I think then the net gets very wide. And the

828
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Speaker 3: three names I've heard are Sean Miller, Chris Beard, and

829
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Speaker 3: Shakas Mark. Those are the names I've heard, but I

830
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: actually think they would look much farther than that. But

831
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Speaker 3: those are the three names that i've heard. So I

832
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: appreciate the call. Who's next, Lance, Lance? Go ahead? Lance?

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on?

834
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Speaker 3: Guys?

835
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Speaker 16: Doing all right?

836
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: Doing good?

837
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Speaker 21: Hey?

838
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Speaker 16: So you know, my my thing is big cow supporter.

839
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Speaker 16: Hate to see this day, Tom, but I understand the

840
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 16: fan base has been a little divided. But you know,

841
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 16: my my thing is I wanted to call. I hope

842
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 16: this kind of whole thing set us on a new track.

843
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Speaker 16: Even as far I've listened to you, you know for

844
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 16: for ten years, but I kind of lumped ks R

845
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 16: and Kentucky Basketball kind of in the same space here lately. It's,

846
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 16: you know, the attendance is good. People are going to

847
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 16: the games, watching the games, people are listening, but the

848
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 16: product just hasn't been the same. So hopefully this whole

849
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 16: new thing where you and him didn't have relationship, it

850
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 16: can kind of turn a whole new role for everybody

851
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 16: and maybe even the product of KSR gets a little better,

852
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 16: just because I kind of missed the whole thing being fun, man,

853
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 16: and it just hasn't What do you mean?

854
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: Do you mean like it's not been as good because

855
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 3: people haven't been as good a mood because we've been losing.

856
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: Is that what you mean? Yeah?

857
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Speaker 16: And I think you've kind of always said Cayle got

858
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 16: really kind of sending towards the fan base. I completely

859
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 16: agree with that, but as much as he had, I

860
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 16: think you even got condescending towards him. It kind of

861
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 16: got personal, a little bitter at least felt that way

862
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 16: much more than basketball. And that's human nature, you know

863
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 16: that that that that's gonna happen, whether you realize it's

864
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 16: happened or not. But I just think it's kind of

865
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Speaker 16: overshadowed a little bit of all the all the fun

866
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 16: and the good things of KSR. It kind of turned

867
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 16: much more into just negative, not just what was happening

868
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 16: on the court, but just the feel of the entire show.

869
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 16: So I just hope this whole thing, Man, we appreciate

870
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 16: cal I wish him the best moving forward. I'm excited

871
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 16: for the search, but I just hope this can kind

872
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 16: of re energize and bring back everybody, because I see

873
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 16: you catching a ton of heat online. Even people that

874
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 16: I know personally that are huge fans of yours in

875
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 16: the show have kind of turned against it a little

876
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 16: bit and kind of turned against you. I just want

877
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 16: to see the whole thing just kind of kind of

878
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 16: move into a new direction.

879
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: Well, well, I appreciate the call. I mean, I don't

880
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 3: know exactly what to say about that, except it won't

881
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: have a choice, but to you know, look, I mean,

882
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: I see the negativity out there. I don't know. I

883
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 3: feel like I do the same thing every day that

884
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: I've always done. I feel like I just say what

885
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: I think and I try to have fun. It's less

886
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: fun after you lose to Oakland. I don't sort of

887
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 3: know what people expect you to do in those circumstances.

888
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: What I do think has happened is that there's a

889
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: huge group of people that blamed me personally for I

890
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: don't know what for exactly, but for being negative. And

891
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know how you. I don't know

892
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: what you do about that. I'm not gonna lie though

893
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: it's not been hard. I don't have been not trying

894
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: to be personal at all. But it is what it is,

895
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: and now it is a new age, and I'm excited

896
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: about it. I'm excited about whatever happens. It was for

897
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: for the fan base. I think people were ready for

898
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: a new voice, and I think that's probably true, uh

899
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 3: for me as well. We'll take a break. If I'm

900
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: nine two, eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Uh, this

901
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: is Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome back. It is special edition

902
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: of Kentucky Sports Radio. If I'm nine two, eight oh

903
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: twenty two eighty seven, the end of the Caliperry era.

904
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm here with Billy a little almost like a postgame show,

905
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: and then what's next? Who will the next coach? Be here?

906
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: Talking about names, et cetera. I just want to you know,

907
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to make this show about me, so

908
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do say this quickly, but I want to

909
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: respond to what that color said there because I had

910
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: like five minutes to think about it. You know, I'll

911
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: be be honest. The last four years, especially really last

912
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: three have been extremely difficult to do KSR, Like, how

913
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: do a fan base that's divided. There's literally not one

914
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: thing you can say that will please everybody. As a

915
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: matter of fact, any position you take will buy its

916
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: very nature not please people. And so there's only one

917
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: other time I've ever been in that situation, which was

918
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 3: the end of the Tubby era when it was kind

919
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: of like that too, but I was like nobody followed us.

920
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 3: Then we had a very small audience in two thousand

921
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: and seven. So like I had my position, I was

922
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: kind of pro Tubby, but like I wasn't big enough

923
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: to where anybody cared. But now you have this platform

924
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: that's literally the largest college sports platform in the country.

925
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: There's nobody there's no other show, there's no other website

926
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: that has the reach that KSR does. And I don't

927
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 3: really know what people want you to do. And this

928
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 3: has been a very difficult three years. How do you

929
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: make losses fun? My goal on this show is to

930
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: have fun. How do you make losing to Saint Peter's fun,

931
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: losing to Oakland fun? It's hard, and as has shown

932
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 3: when I take up sometimes for the football program with

933
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: Mark Stoops, when you're losing, if you try to be positive,

934
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: that also makes people mad. And so we got to

935
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: a point that it's been so large that it's hard

936
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: to even people hate the show that don't even listen now,

937
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 3: So like it's become tough and it's been very draining.

938
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: I think I have been as fair as I knew

939
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: how to be, including as fair as I knew how

940
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: to be with some stuff that people don't know that

941
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: we had to deal with behind the scenes, and on

942
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 3: a personal level, you know, that was exhausting. So I'll

943
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: admit I am excited about a new era, but I'm

944
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 3: also nervous about it because the one thing you knew

945
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: with Cal is that it was always going to be exciting.

946
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: There's always going to be stuff going on. You know,

947
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: you talk about Scott Drew. One of the things that

948
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 3: worries me is what if it's boring. He's kind of

949
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: a vanilla guy. What if it's boring. But to the

950
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 3: Colors point, I don't know how you can do a

951
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: show like this and not make people frustrated. But what's

952
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: different about this one is it's gotten so big it's

953
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 3: kind of hard to contain. And I've said this over

954
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 3: and over, and if you listen, you know this. I

955
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: have the utmost respect for Cal Perry as a person.

956
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: He is a wonderful human being. He's done wonderful things

957
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: for this state and I appreciate his time here and

958
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 3: I thank him for that. And on a personal level,

959
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: I'm still a lawyer probably if that dude doesn't become coach,

960
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: so I'll always thank him for that. With all of

961
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: that said, I think it was time for a change

962
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: and now we'll see what the next step is. Who's next?

963
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 12: Well, quickly, Matt, let me thank you for being as

964
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 12: open and honest as you are. I can't speak for BBN,

965
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 12: but that's not common, and honestly, I think you do

966
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 12: a great service to this day.

967
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: Well. I appreciate that, you know, for Ryan and Drew

968
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 3: and Shannon and me and Billy recently, Like it's hard

969
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: to put yourself out there as who you really are,

970
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: and I think we do. But that also means that

971
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: the barbs hurt sometimes, and I'm not gonna act like

972
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't. It's just a reality. What's next, Sarah, Sarah,

973
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: go ahead, Sarah.

974
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 22: Hey, Matt, to your previous comments, I want to say

975
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 22: that there.

976
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 23: Is a whole lot of people that think that you're

977
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 23: single handedly responsible for Cal's exit.

978
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 3: So but to think about what that but think about

979
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: what you just said like that sucks. I know, I

980
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 3: don't want people to think like I didn't. I didn't.

981
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: I didn't make them lose these games. But like that that,

982
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: like I am a radio host, Like that sucks and

983
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 3: I love this. I mean, I grew up with Kentucky

984
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: stuff all around. The idea that people think I wanted

985
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: John cali Perry to leave is insane, but like it

986
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: is what it is. There's nothing I can do.

987
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 22: About for sure. I had two questions for you. The

988
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 22: first one is, I know that.

989
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 23: We still haven't heard a lot about Reed's future plans.

990
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 23: Do you think that Cal's exit influences him to go

991
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 23: on to the draft or do you think it has.

992
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I think he was probably

993
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 3: going to the draft either way, so but I don't know.

994
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: The thing is UK. Until cali Perry officially resigned this afternoon,

995
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: they couldn't contact the players, or at least they were

996
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 3: choosing not to contact the players. Now I'm sure someone

997
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: at UK is reaching out to Shepherd and basically saying, hey,

998
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: any way you could hold off till we make a decision,

999
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 3: And then I don't know how those conversations will go.

1000
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: Rob Dillingham, by the way, did just declare for the draft,

1001
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 3: but I think that was gonna happen either way.

1002
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 22: And then my second question is, you know, there's talk

1003
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 22: that Cali Ferry was looking at Ohio State in February.

1004
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 22: He flew out as soon.

1005
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 23: As they lost in the tournament, and a lot of people,

1006
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 23: including myself, had a lot to say about the fact

1007
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 23: that he wasn't at the Kentucky High School Basketball State

1008
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 23: tournament to see Travis Perry.

1009
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 22: Do you think he knew he was on his.

1010
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 23: Way out and his staff knew they were on their

1011
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 23: way out, so they weren't worried about seeing Travis play.

1012
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: I don't know my call, I don't know. I appreciate

1013
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: the call. I thought that was a again, because I

1014
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: don't talk to cal now, I don't know what they thought,

1015
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: but I was really surprised they weren't. There was no

1016
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 3: UK presence at the Travis Perry games, and it might

1017
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: suggest that he thought, I mean, he was gonna get fired,

1018
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: but then he didn't. And so yeah, I don't know.

1019
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: There have been a lot of stuff. There's a lot

1020
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: of stuff about the last three weeks that is odd.

1021
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: But if I'm not gonna say confidently what his mindset

1022
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: was when I don't didn't talk to him, so there's

1023
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: no way for me to know what's next. Brandon, Brandon,

1024
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 3: what's up, Brandon?

1025
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 18: Hey, guys, how's it going?

1026
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: Doing good?

1027
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 5: Okay?

1028
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 18: So my first thing is I think that the consensus

1029
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 18: three coaches should be your three that you've put out

1030
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 18: and been saying all along. But outside of those top three,

1031
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 18: I want to talk about that. I think that Rick

1032
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 18: Pepino would be one of the biggest mistakes we can make,

1033
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 18: and I think Shaka Smart would be a great pier.

1034
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 18: I want to know what you think about those two

1035
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 18: and why you don't think I.

1036
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 3: Think Patino would be a mistake. I mean, I don't

1037
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 3: think it would be a disaster, but I think it

1038
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 3: would be a mistake. Shaka, it's Shaka is one of

1039
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: these dudes. It's in the eye the beholder, right. So,

1040
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: like he took VCU to a final four. That's pretty amazing.

1041
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: But then he went to a school in Texas where

1042
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 3: we had all the resources in the world and it

1043
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 3: didn't really work. But then again, it hasn't really worked

1044
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 3: for very many people at Texas, so I don't know why.

1045
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: Then he goes to Marquette and they've done a pretty

1046
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: amazing job in a short period of time. So I

1047
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: think with Shaka, you see what you want to see.

1048
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: So I'm not convinced it would work. But I'm also

1049
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: not convinced it wouldn't work, So I would probably say,

1050
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: let's see what happens.

1051
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 18: You know, Okay, I got you an outside of those

1052
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 18: who do you think that you said the net would

1053
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 18: get wider after that?

1054
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: Well, the only names I've heard outside the top three

1055
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: are Chris Beard, Shaka Smart, and Sean Miller. But I

1056
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: am sure there are other names. Those are just the

1057
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: only ones that I have heard.

1058
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 18: Okay, Okay, So.

1059
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. Look, here's what will happen. I think.

1060
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 3: I think Mitch Maarnhardt wants to, by Friday have a coach,

1061
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 3: and I think he wants it to be one of

1062
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: those three people I told you. If we get to

1063
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: the point that we start hearing they've talked to other names,

1064
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: then that tells me it ain't gonna be one of

1065
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: those three, and then the process probably takes longer. The

1066
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 3: other part of it is, Billy Donovan has a playing

1067
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: game on April seventeenth. What day of the week is that?

1068
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: Billy April seventh, son, Well, what's today?

1069
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 12: Yes, it's a Wednesday, next Wednesday.

1070
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: So today is the tenth, So today is the tenth

1071
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: to the ninth. So a week from tomorrow he has

1072
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: a playing game. If he loses that game, he's over.

1073
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: So you only have to wait a week. But if

1074
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 3: it wins that one and then wins the next one,

1075
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: it'll be another two or three weeks. So if Danny

1076
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: Hurley says no and Scott Drew says no, and all

1077
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: of a sudden, we're waiting until next week with no,

1078
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: with not a no from Billy Donovan, then it might

1079
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: be Billy Donovan because you can't hire Billy Donovan until

1080
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: at least the seventeenth because he's got a playing game

1081
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: that night. What's next? BJ, BJ, what's up? BJ?

1082
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1083
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 24: What's up?

1084
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: Man?

1085
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 25: Callor from New Orleans? I called, ironically the last time

1086
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 25: before the Alkasas game, and here we all losing Cattle Arkansas. Yeah,

1087
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 25: but I was just like, peak it back off the

1088
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 25: lady that I heard a couple of minutes ago. I

1089
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 25: was wondering the same thing about cal because if you

1090
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 25: go back and listen to the press conference before when

1091
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 25: when the bracket came out. He kept throwing it out.

1092
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 25: What they're gonna do?

1093
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: Fire me?

1094
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 25: The worst thing happened is gonna get fired. And then

1095
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 25: I listened to the Reaction Show with Drew and sources

1096
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 25: say about the Bracket and Drew said he heard Cal

1097
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 25: was talking about the buy out and he can go

1098
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 25: by island if he gets fired and stuff like that.

1099
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 26: I just wish, I wish Drew.

1100
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: Well, that wasn't Drew. That wasn't Drew. That was somebody

1101
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: else that was Drew. Yeah, that was not but it

1102
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: wasn't Drew. It was another guy. It was the It

1103
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: was a different person at ks R. I don't really

1104
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: want to get into that, but there was somebody that

1105
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: overheard him say that at the bracket things.

1106
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, so I was just one that I don't

1107
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 25: I ain't gonna say he checked out or whatever, but

1108
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 25: it was just weird. I was just thinking about that

1109
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 25: the last couple of days, those comments and stuff. But

1110
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 25: you know, I love Cal. I'm glad he uh glady

1111
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 25: got the clothes and he needed and want it. And

1112
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 25: I'm ready for the next chapter. Like I'm here from

1113
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 25: New Orleans. I'm just I'm just watching from Afar. Yeah,

1114
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 25: and just to comment on the comment on the other callers. Shoot,

1115
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 25: I love ks or this is my this is my

1116
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 25: main source of information because I'm way over here, you know,

1117
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 25: just watching from the outside. Yeah, I think you guys

1118
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 25: do a good job.

1119
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: So well, that's very kind of you. Thank you, And

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01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: I'll see I'm coming. I'm gonna probably come to New

1121
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: Orleans see a friend of mine in the near future.

1122
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: Hopefully maybe I'll run into you. We'll take a break

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Speaker 3: A five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: Beer right back Istucky Sports Radio, Welcome back Turkey Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven.

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01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: Text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five

1127
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 3: two five four to one person rights, Matt, do you

1128
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Speaker 3: think you will miss Cal once he's gone? Well, I'm

1129
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: yes and no. I mean I'm gonna miss how fun

1130
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: those years twenty ten to twenty nineteen were. But you know,

1131
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: from twenty ten to till COVID, I probably talked to

1132
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: Cal Perry once every two or three days, and I

1133
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 3: missed that like that was that was uh, you know,

1134
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: that was that. Listen, you're a kid who grew up

1135
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 3: a Kentucky fan. How could you not love that that's

1136
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: not been like that since the COVID year when we

1137
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: were critical of the way he uh they played, And

1138
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: so I do miss that. But I've actually the last

1139
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: forty eight hours for people who know cal well and

1140
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: are not involved now, so people in other places and

1141
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: people used to work at UK, A lot of us

1142
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: have been texting each other just with sort of good memories.

1143
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: And I have a ton of great memories of the

1144
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 3: cal Era, not just on the court but off the court,

1145
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 3: and he did a ton of great deeds that people

1146
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: don't know about. And yeah, so I'll miss that. I

1147
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: mean I do. Of course, you can't help it, but

1148
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: you also have to be ready for the future. And

1149
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 3: my guess is Whoever's next? I mean, you know, Billy

1150
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 3: Gilespie when he was here, there's a lot of negativity

1151
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 3: about him, but he also had some really sweet moments.

1152
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 3: Billy Gilespie did things people don't won't ever know off

1153
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 3: the court, Tubby Smith did. I wasn't around, but I'm

1154
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 3: sure Rick did. So you know, I will choose in

1155
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: the long run to try to remember the good of

1156
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: the Calira, and there's been a lot, a lot of good.

1157
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: What's next? Zach Zach, what's up, Zach?

1158
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 24: Hello, Matt and Litbilly. Thanks for taking my call, and

1159
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 24: thank you going this extra two hours for BBN. We

1160
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 24: appreciate you, Matt things. But first off, I want to

1161
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 24: give a shout out to your mom and to Larry

1162
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 24: for raising an awesome human, awesome human being. You're a

1163
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 24: great dude. I get back to the few callers ago,

1164
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 24: I don't. I listened to you every day and I

1165
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 24: don't for once think you were disparaging, nasty towards cow

1166
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 24: or anything. You simply spoke the truth and some people

1167
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 24: can't handle that. I don't like that. So you're an

1168
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 24: awesome dude. Thank you, and uh, yeah, you're welcome. And

1169
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 24: I tell you, uh, you know, I grew up with

1170
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 24: uh taking my son Ethan to the father son overnight

1171
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 24: camps with Cal It was absolutely wonderful, great memories. Were

1172
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 24: both very sad. It's the only coach he's ever known,

1173
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,959
Speaker 24: and uh, it's it's uh, you know, it's gonna be sad,

1174
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 24: But I'm like you, I'm gonna choose to enjoy the

1175
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 24: times we had, look forward and like you guys say

1176
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 24: on the show, there's not one person that is bigger

1177
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,959
Speaker 24: than Kentucky basketball. We'll be here. And again a shout

1178
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 24: out to my son Ethan at our puppy Millie, who

1179
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 24: watched every single game with me and Matt. We love

1180
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 24: you and keep fighting the good fight. And thank you

1181
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 24: everything you do.

1182
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 3: Brother, Thank you very much. I appreciate that. No, the yeah,

1183
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: they the things like the father son camp, those were awesome,

1184
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: Like those were those were awesome moments during his time here.

1185
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: The thing about what's funny about anyone in the public eye,

1186
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: and this is very true about Cal. It's like everything

1187
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: is more complicated than you think because everyone in the

1188
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: public eye, including Cal, is just a human being. So

1189
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 3: like they have great moments and they have tough moments.

1190
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 3: But he had some great moments. And when you go

1191
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 3: back and think from hoops for Haiti to the flood

1192
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 3: relief efforts to the tornado relief efforts, Cal did a

1193
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 3: lot of good And I tell this story a lot.

1194
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: But the thing I'll remember, especially in those early years,

1195
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 3: he was in love with being here so much. We

1196
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: would go to public events. What I always loved about

1197
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: Cal is he'd go look at the person who was, like,

1198
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: you know, serving food at the banquet hall or cleaning

1199
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 3: the bathroom, and he would go be kind to them,

1200
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 3: And that's a lesson. My mom does that, and Cal

1201
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,959
Speaker 3: did that, and that's a lesson I've always tried to take.

1202
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 3: He would reach out to people who knew he would

1203
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: never get credit for reaching out to and that's part

1204
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 3: of the reason. Regardless of how things ended, I will

1205
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: always have an affinity for him as a human being

1206
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 3: off the court. What's next?

1207
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 12: Chad is next?

1208
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: Chad? Go ahead? Chad?

1209
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 10: Hey man, No, I just wanted to say real quick,

1210
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 10: I've I figured out in the last forty eight hours

1211
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 10: that my wife has been listening to KSR podcasts.

1212
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: We'll tell her, thank you. Well, it's you gotta be

1213
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: you gotta be sneaky about it because if you don't,

1214
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: people will he will get upset.

1215
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 10: Well, she she gave herself away because Sunday night, when

1216
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 10: the news was breaking and I was I was on

1217
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 10: your Twitter space and she was like, hey, what's going on?

1218
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 10: And I told her, I said, well, it looks like

1219
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 10: Cow's leaving. And she said, and this is what Kavid wesh,

1220
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 10: She said, is that scoop or scuttle?

1221
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 3: But no, then that's how you knew.

1222
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 10: Of course, Yeah, And I knew, but you know, this

1223
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 10: is an interesting time, you know for our fan base

1224
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 10: because we don't go we don't go through this like

1225
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 10: other schools do.

1226
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: No, we don't.

1227
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 10: And uh, you know, Kentucky's gonna be fine. You know,

1228
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 10: I never thought that I would look back at what

1229
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 10: something that Billy Gillespie said. And this is the University

1230
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 10: of Kentucky, not the University of Caliperi or university of

1231
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 10: any coach.

1232
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: He's right, he's right, he's that, he said, the University

1233
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 3: of Jody Meeks or whatever I think he's like, But

1234
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:36,479
Speaker 3: he's exactly right about that. This university. Everybody who does

1235
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 3: something at this university is a placeholder, right, Like the

1236
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 3: players are placeholders. They're important placeholders, but they're placeholders. They

1237
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 3: change Rup Hall, Sutton, Patino, Tubby, Gillespie, cow Now there's

1238
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 3: another in the president's world, right Lee. I don't know

1239
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: all of them, but Wethington, Ta Capaludo, you know, Newton Barnhart,

1240
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: there was all Oscar Kaywood left for an Oscar Combs,

1241
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: you know whoever, Rob Bromley, Matt Jon't. You just go

1242
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 3: through like we're all placeholders. But the one thing that's

1243
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 3: the same is the front of the jersey in the

1244
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 3: program and we will be fine no matter who's next.

1245
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 10: Yes, we've won what eight championships with five different coaches

1246
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 10: that this program is bigger than any coach and it

1247
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 10: always will be.

1248
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Appreciate the call. Good stuff. Here's next.

1249
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: Mike is next, Mike, Go ahead, Mike.

1250
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 19: Hey man, thanks for taking my call. Before I get

1251
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 19: into what I actually want to talk about, just a

1252
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 19: little side note. He doesn't have the resume yet, and

1253
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 19: it's not somebody that I think that we would consider,

1254
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 19: but I'm interested to see what Todd Golden does on

1255
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 19: down the road. There's something in him that I see

1256
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 19: a potential I see.

1257
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, I agree with that he doesn't have

1258
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: the resume yet this job, but I agree I think

1259
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: he could do well.

1260
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 19: Yeah, So while I was waiting on hold, you actually

1261
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 19: touched on some things that I was gonna talk to

1262
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 19: you about. You know, I do think that we would

1263
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 19: agree that we need somebody that has the university and

1264
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 19: the betterment of the program in mind. However, you know,

1265
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 19: some of our greats were good at this, but they

1266
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 19: were also good at things were doing, uh, you know,

1267
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 19: for the city of Lexington for the State of Kentucky,

1268
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 19: and I think that that's important for the state of

1269
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 19: Kentucky is to have somebody in this position that would

1270
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 19: be an ambassador for the state. You know, you look

1271
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 19: at what Tubby Smith did with the Smith Foundation, all

1272
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 19: the telethons and stuff that cal done. Out of these candidates,

1273
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 19: who would be the best when it comes up.

1274
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 3: There, they're very very different people. Okay, so they're very

1275
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: different people. That's a good question. Let's take the three

1276
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: main guys. Okay, so they're all very different personalities. Danny

1277
01:08:53,520 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: Hurley is a Northeastern, in your face, sarcastic, confrontational person,

1278
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 3: but I've heard people say that behind the scenes he's

1279
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 3: one of the kindest people you'll meet, and he is

1280
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 3: down to earth and great with all the fans. Billy

1281
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 3: Donovan is very reserved, very quiet. He's somebody that it's

1282
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: hard to get to know. But he's very involved with charity.

1283
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 3: He and his wife have done a ton of stuff

1284
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: over the years at the University of Florida with various

1285
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: charitable missions. So he goes another way. Then Scott Drew,

1286
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 3: He's very religious. Faith is very important to him. He

1287
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: I think is another one I've heard he's really engaging

1288
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: one on one, not necessarily the most dynamic person in

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01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: a group. So they are three completely different personalities who

1290
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 3: would handle this platform, three completely different ways. But I

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01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,959
Speaker 3: think they all can work. You know, Cal and Tubby

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 3: and Rick. Cal and Rick have some similarities, Callan Tubby

1293
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: have very few similarities, but both handled this platform very well.

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01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 3: They just approached it a different way.

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 24: I agree, I do.

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Speaker 19: I just think that that's gonna be something that's important

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01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 19: going forward. You know, I know that that's not a

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 19: job requirement necessarily, but it's something that we've come to know.

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Speaker 19: And I want to see somebody that is there for

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01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 19: the entire state of Kentucky, the city of Lexington, and

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01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 19: you know, it helps us to kind of personalize that

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01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 19: coach and make him feel like he's our coach. He's

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 19: our guy. But listen, thank you for taking the time

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 19: to talk to me. Keep pressing on and I appreciate

1305
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 19: everything you do.

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01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 16: Matt, have a good day.

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01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 3: Thank you as well. Let's take a break. Eight five

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Speaker 3: nine two eight zero twenty two eighty seven. This is

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Speaker 3: Kentucky Sports Radio, Welcome back. Is this Oh? This is real?

1310
01:10:52,640 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 3: So a new graphic in the Arkansas Arena. Wow, it's

1311
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: a graphic of John Calperry in a red coat in

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: the Arkansas Arena. That's that's surreal to see, isn't it. Yes, really, yeah,

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01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 3: it's surreal to see. I just tweeted it out. That's Uh,

1314
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough

1315
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 3: seeing him, and uh, you know that's the way. That's

1316
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 3: the way change is. It's probably always tough when you

1317
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 3: see your ex with somebody else for the first time,

1318
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: but in this case, it's like you're still some of

1319
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 3: you all have dealt with this. Your ex still lives

1320
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 3: in the same town and you got to see him

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: at the local steakhouse. Well that's what's coming. But uh,

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01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 3: you know what, what do you laughing?

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,440
Speaker 12: I'm just local steakhouse.

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01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 3: But so s where do you grew up in Tampa,

1325
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: That's not how you look at it. In small towns,

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01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 3: there's a steakhouse. Now it's all Mexican restaurants. But when

1327
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: I was growing up, everybody had a steakhouse. Uh. Now

1328
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: everybody's only got Mexican restaurants. But I'm just saying, like,

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01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: that's what it's like. You walk in and they're with

1330
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 3: the new woman that works in the clerk's office, right,

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01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: and you started, you know, and you know the wife

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01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 3: she started dating the new guy. That's like the in construction,

1333
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 3: and then you all run into each other at the

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01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 3: prime surloin and it's not necessarily easy. That's the way

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: it goes.

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Speaker 12: Really, what's the reception like when cal comes in, right,

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 12: I think it'll.

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Speaker 3: Be mixed, but more positive than negative. That's the way.

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 3: That's why I'm gonna predict now with one caveat. Let's

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01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 3: see what he says over the course the next few monutes.

1341
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 3: Like a lot of it's going to depend on how

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 3: he acts. If he acts the way he did in

1343
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 3: that video, it'll be more positive than negative. If he

1344
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 3: acts differently, then that'll be a different thing. But if

1345
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 3: it happened tomorrow, I think it'd be more positive than negative.

1346
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 3: The good thing about the way this ended is it

1347
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 3: allows people to remember the good moments. Assuming now, again

1348
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 3: using my marriage analogy, if you walk up and flaunt

1349
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 3: yourself to the new with you lady, that might be different.

1350
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens. What's next, Kevin, Kevin, go ahead, Hey.

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Speaker 21: First time, long time. Yeah, I was listening to Jay

1352
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 21: Williams and Steven A talk, and Jay Williams is talking

1353
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 21: about how these losses in the tournament are all fluky,

1354
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 21: and and I just, I really honestly think the downfall

1355
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 21: of Cows not just the tournament but the SEC as well,

1356
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 21: because we were not even dominating our own conference. And

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Speaker 21: I know you'll have talked before about how all these

1358
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 21: other teams in our conference have achieved all these things.

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Speaker 21: And I think if if Cal had been more successful

1360
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 21: in the SEC but then lost first round, I think

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01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 21: would be a little more you know, understanding. But uh,

1362
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 21: I just think that with the next coach that comes in,

1363
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 21: we're comparing their current resume to like Cow's resume, and

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 21: they don't have the facilities we have. They don't have

1365
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 21: the Rapperena crowd, correct, they don't have the ability to recruit.

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Speaker 13: Like we have.

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Speaker 21: We have the fans that travel like we have, and

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 21: and they don't have the Rapperena ice. There's just so

1369
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 21: many things that we can offer these coaches. So I

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01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 21: think just if we're just a little patient and realize, hey,

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Speaker 21: they're bringing this resume without everything everything that the universe.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree with that I totally agree with that. You can't. Again,

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01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 3: that's a great point. Appreciate the call. Let's just take

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 3: Kentucky and Baylor or even Kentucky and Tommy Lloyd at

1375
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 3: Arizona or Kentucky and whoever. Kentucky is a better program

1376
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 3: than those schools. So you can't sit there and say,

1377
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 3: because they only did this at this school, they will

1378
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 3: at Kentucky. Every coach think about this for a minute.

1379
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 3: I want you to think about every coach that's ever

1380
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 3: coached this school and then gone somewhere else. They were

1381
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: better at Kentucky than they were everywhere else. Ripetino was

1382
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 3: better at Kentucky than he was at Louisville, and Lowe's

1383
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 3: a really good program. Tubby Smith was better at Kentucky

1384
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 3: than he was at Minnesota. Right, John Caliperry was better

1385
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: at Kentucky than he was at Memphis and UMass. Why

1386
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 3: we're Kentucky. So the next coach there's a really good

1387
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 3: chance will be better here than they were wherever else.

1388
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna give you a secret. Cal ain't gonna

1389
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 3: be as good at Arkansas as he was here. He

1390
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 3: might be better than he was the last three or

1391
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: four years, but he ain't gonna be as good as

1392
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 3: he was the first ten. So Kentucky's different and we

1393
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: need to have confidence some of these fans online to

1394
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: act like everything's over come on. We've won five national

1395
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: child We've won eight titles with five different coaches. There's

1396
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: not another school in the country that's won titles with

1397
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: more than three. We've won five. Stop. We're gonna be

1398
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 3: fine if we hire the right person. Who's next?

1399
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 12: How about Jay Rock?

1400
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: Jay Rock? What's up?

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01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 26: Hey, Matthew, I can't tell you how excited I am

1402
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 26: to be on the local to Hilla dealer host cal show,

1403
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 26: really our sports show, of course, but of course, hey,

1404
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 26: I got a few things. First Off, my heart still

1405
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 26: breaks for Shannon. I hope he's all right right, and

1406
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 26: we miss you, buddy. And uh, you say you was

1407
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 26: going to the worms.

1408
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 3: At some point.

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01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 26: Yes, what's her name?

1410
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 3: Well, actually, it's a friend of mine from the from

1411
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 3: the it's not it's not dating, it's a friend of

1412
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 3: mine that from the fellowship thing I did. I told

1413
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 3: her i'd visit her in the next year. Uh, huh?

1414
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 26: What's her name?

1415
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: Matt?

1416
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 26: But any who coaches you want to see, Yes, coaching

1417
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,879
Speaker 26: search and Matt Jones lost those games for Matt Jones

1418
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 26: to diner is soft and he sucks hollow?

1419
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 3: What's that? Jay excided out of breath, didn't he? Yeah,

1420
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: he's excited. I think he was excited. Who's next? Jimmy, Jimmy,

1421
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 3: how are you? Jimmy good?

1422
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 26: Good?

1423
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 24: Can you hear me?

1424
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 3: Matt? Yes?

1425
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 15: Uh.

1426
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 20: I just want to highlight two key events. One's a

1427
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 20: game and one with a decision made by Calipery that

1428
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 20: maybe just realized we really need to move on the

1429
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 20: first one, and it's a game that is the most

1430
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 20: under of the terrible Kentucky losses that I saw in person.

1431
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 20: But the twenty eighteen Sweet sixteen loss to Kansas State,

1432
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 20: that brass completely opened up up into ups, crunch oil

1433
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 20: or loyal or whatever. Went to the final four that year,

1434
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 20: and we had a guy in that team that will

1435
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 20: be the greatest player and that ever wear a history

1436
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 20: or the history of Tucky basketball. Shay Hill is Alexander.

1437
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 20: He should win the MVP this year, but he's gonna

1438
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 20: go on to win multiple and probably win titles with

1439
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 20: a thunder. We'll never see the likes of a guy

1440
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 20: like that ever.

1441
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 3: Slow down, Slow Down. He got a long way to

1442
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 3: go to be Dan Assel or even Anthony Davis. He's great,

1443
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 3: but he's got a long way to go before you

1444
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 3: call it the greatest place he.

1445
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 19: Got and he should win it this year.

1446
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 20: Whether to give it to him or not is a

1447
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 20: different story.

1448
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 3: Yes, And what was your second point.

1449
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 20: I've never heard anybody made this and I'm just shocked me.

1450
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 20: But the fact that we did not recruit the most

1451
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 20: important player in the history of our program son, Jamal

1452
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 20: Mashburns junior. He was the top seventy five kid from

1453
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 20: Brewster Academy. That is a great combo guard. He's had

1454
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 20: a great career at Minnesota in New Mexico. But Jamal

1455
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 20: mashburn is the most important player in the history of

1456
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 20: Kenchucky basketball for multitude of reasons. The fact that Cal

1457
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 20: didn't recruit him, that was the nail in the coffin

1458
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 20: for me. Because Roy Williams, he made North Carolina family,

1459
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 20: Kenny Smith's son got a spot on the bench. Luke

1460
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 20: may got a spot of this bench because his dad

1461
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 20: plays quarterback. How do you not offer a scholarship to

1462
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 20: the son of the most important player in the history

1463
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 20: of the programs. He is available of the transfer portal.

1464
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 20: Whoever's the coach.

1465
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 3: Go get him mass that would be that's interesting. I

1466
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 3: disagree with the first part of that. I appreciate the

1467
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 3: call that like that somehow was the worst thing in

1468
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 3: the world. I think you got to go with who

1469
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 3: who you think will play. And I think bringing Jamal

1470
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: Mashburn's kid here and then not playing him is not

1471
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 3: necessarily the right thing anyway. But but yeah, bring him

1472
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 3: in the portal. That's not the worst thing in the world.

1473
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 3: Who's next? I mean that would be a good good

1474
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 3: you know. I think getting Travis Perry to stay here

1475
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 3: is gonna be big for the next coach too. I

1476
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 3: think that would I think that whoever that is, that's

1477
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 3: gonna be important. Who's next? Jay and Lindon, Jay and Lindon?

1478
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 5: How are you good? Hey? You know, I think it's

1479
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 5: important to saying Cal for a lot of great memories,

1480
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 5: and do there's a lot of them. While I was

1481
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 5: in hold Matt, I won Wichita State Tournament tickets to

1482
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 5: the KSR remote took my son. One of my best memories. Yeah,

1483
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 5: but look, we should have been onto this when Cal

1484
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 5: said he was coming back. He's been a master it's

1485
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 5: staying in front of the media and everything. When he

1486
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 5: went silent after his con years ago, what he would

1487
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 5: have said is, hey, I've already layded the top two

1488
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 5: or three guys in the portal. We should have known,

1489
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 5: but Matt, I feel compelled to call and take it

1490
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 5: for you. I hear online people that don't know what

1491
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 5: they're talking about, blaming you for stuff, and I want

1492
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 5: to say this to all of our fans. You listen

1493
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 5: to these national pundits. I promise you I know more

1494
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 5: what's going on than ninety percent of the national pundits

1495
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 5: about you Cape Basketball in this search. And I know

1496
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 5: you know ninety percent more than I do. So don't

1497
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 5: listen when these people say Kentucky's not gonna come back.

1498
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 5: They said it after Tubby left, they said it after

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Speaker 5: Gillespie left. We're gonna be back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The national people don't know, and I appreciate it, Jay.

1501
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: The national people don't know. The national people that throw

1502
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 3: disparaging comments at the Kentucky fan base. My view is

1503
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 3: all of them, even if they're good people, and some

1504
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: of them are, all of them just I don't care

1505
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: what they say. They don't know nobody nationally knows what

1506
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 3: people locally do. Now, there are some people nationally that've

1507
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 3: been all over this story, Matt Noorlander and I think

1508
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 3: Pete thamme will being the primary ones. But just in

1509
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 3: terms of like, oh, Kentucky won't recover this. Shut up.

1510
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 3: I mean that's you don't know what you're talking about.

1511
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 3: You're not here. Just remember the story. I always tell

1512
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 3: Billy about me doing the NFL every Sunday. I don't

1513
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: know anything, right, Yeah, you turn that NFL show on

1514
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: a ESPN radio on Sundays. I am speaking with conviction

1515
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 3: about the NFL, and all of you that listen to

1516
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 3: this show know I don't know what I'm talking about.

1517
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 3: In ESPN, they know I don't know. I tell them, look, man,

1518
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, and they're like, just keep being entertaining

1519
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 3: and don't say anything false. So I never say anything false.

1520
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 3: I just say my opinion. It's a stupid opinion because

1521
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 3: it's mine, but I do it. So the next time

1522
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 3: you see people opining, you know more about this than

1523
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 3: they do. Every single person listening knows more about UK

1524
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 3: basketball than everyone, including Jay Williams, J Billis, Seth Greenberg.

1525
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 3: We all know more about it than they do. They

1526
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 3: know more about basketball than we do, but we know

1527
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 3: more about UK basketball than they do. So it's nice

1528
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 3: to listen to them. It's interesting to hear their perspective.

1529
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,440
Speaker 3: But don't let them ever convince you of our inferiority.

1530
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 3: There's one thing I've tried to project in the last

1531
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 3: fifteen years in the state of Kentucky. We don't have

1532
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: to be secondary to anybody, not in basketball, not in life,

1533
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 3: not in quality of people. The national people can hush

1534
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: in my mind, and if you don't believe me, just

1535
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 3: turn on the NFL and listen to me. Try to

1536
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,759
Speaker 3: talk about Dak Prescott. Who's next?

1537
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 12: Well, can I ask a question, Matt, Yes, what is

1538
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 12: your favorite callism that you're going to miss the most?

1539
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 3: Maybe the tweak or the ice cream Pike Bulde Paduca.

1540
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,520
Speaker 12: I haven't seen him.

1541
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 3: I will you know. I did this earlier this morning.

1542
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 3: I want to go through really quickly. Let's start at

1543
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 3: the beginning of the Cali era and let's talk about

1544
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 3: the awesome moments. Are you ready sure? I'm gonna do

1545
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 3: about two minutes of these. John Wall dance up against

1546
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 3: Yukon in New York with Wall, North Carolina and Rupperina

1547
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 3: where we knew we were back. Call me at Mississippi

1548
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 3: State with DeMarcus Cousins the SEC Tournament with the put

1549
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: back in the hug will go. Twenty eleven, Brandon Knight

1550
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 3: in the NCAA Tournament, lay up against Princeton, Jumper against

1551
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: Ohio State, three corner, three by leggings against North Carolina.

1552
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 3: Josh Harrelson, Peppers that ball against what was the dude's

1553
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 3: name in Ohio State, the big guy Solinger Sollinger. Yes,

1554
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 3: Pepper's the ball against Solinger. Let's go to twenty twelve.

1555
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis blocks against North Carolina. Oh, I'm gonna go

1556
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: back to twenty ten. DeMarcus Cousins in the fight against

1557
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 3: Louisville where Cal says you messed with the wrong guy, right.

1558
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: Twenty twelve Anthony Davis blocks against North Carolina. Absolutely, we

1559
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 3: run Indiana off the floor in the NCAA Tournament to

1560
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: make up for the regular season loss. We beat our

1561
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 3: end state rival in the semifinal, and then we win

1562
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 3: the national championship. Twenty thirteen wasn't a great year, but

1563
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 3: before he got hurt, nerlans Noel ten blocks at Old

1564
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 3: miss A, good old miss team that won the SEC

1565
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 3: and Nerland sets the all time record for blocks in

1566
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 3: a game before he gets hurt. Twenty fourteen, the NCAA

1567
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 3: tournament run. The Wichita State shots throughout that game one

1568
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 3: of the best, one of the best tournament games I've

1569
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 3: ever seen. Kentucky and Wichitas State in the second round

1570
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: coming back against Louisville hitting the corner three to beating them.

1571
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: Beat Michigan in the Elite eight. Aaron Harrison with the

1572
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 3: shot Final four against Wisconsin. Aaron Harrison shot where Jim

1573
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 3: Nance says this is the moment that he always hits it,

1574
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: and then he does. Twenty fifteen beat UCLA. We're up

1575
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 3: like forty one to six at halftime in the Champions Classic.

1576
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 3: The platoon, the way we just absolutely dominated teams in

1577
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 3: five minute sequences. That was shocking to see. We go

1578
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 3: win at LSU and Carl Towns does that interview where

1579
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 3: he comes up behind cal during the postgame interview the

1580
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 3: dunk Willie got at Florida That gets right Oliver out

1581
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: of his seat going crazy. Twenty sixteen. Jamal Murray and

1582
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 3: Tyler Euless they win that game at Louisville. The game

1583
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 3: where Uless ends up bleeding from his eyebrow all of

1584
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 3: the bow and arrow shots when Murray would hit threes.

1585
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 3: They go win the SEC tournament, I believe against Texas

1586
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 3: A and M with all of those guys hitting a

1587
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 3: ton of shots. Twenty seventeen, Fox Monk. How about Monk's

1588
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 3: game in Vegas against North Carolina where he absolutely goes insane.

1589
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 3: One of the best games I've ever seen an individual

1590
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: player play. In the NCAA tournament against UCLA Fox versus Ball.

1591
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 3: The whole country waiting for it, and Fox cooks him,

1592
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:51,520
Speaker 3: cooks him for thirty nine points in an absolute amazing contest.

1593
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen, Kentucky goes on the road at West Virginia.

1594
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 3: They're absolutely reeling. They get down like seventeen and then

1595
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 3: Kevin Knot and Shay Gilgess Alexander bring him back to

1596
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 3: get a win in the NCAA tournament that year, they

1597
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 3: get I guess who was it, Arizona or whatever gets upset.

1598
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 3: They end up playing, of all people, Nate Oates up

1599
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 3: in Nat Oates up in Boise beat Buffalo go to

1600
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen twenty nineteen with Tyler Herro. How much

1601
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 3: fun was it? Watching that kid developed through the course

1602
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: of the year. The buzzer beater against Houston that ends

1603
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 3: up sending you to the Elite Eight. That game in

1604
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 3: Rupperino where they went absolutely nuts against Auburn and ended

1605
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 3: up beating them by like forty even though they lost

1606
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 3: regular the year, even in twenty twenty, the tournament that

1607
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 3: didn't end up happening. Tyres Maxi against Michigan State on

1608
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 3: the night Billy that I had kicked off the radio

1609
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 3: by Mitch mcconnald. He goes up at the Champions Classic

1610
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 3: and absolutely dominates in an amazing performance. And then during

1611
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 3: the season they get the tip end by E. J.

1612
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: Montgomery at the buzz to beat Florida and what would

1613
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 3: end up being the last game of the year, go

1614
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 3: to the COVID year a lot of bad memories, but

1615
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 3: what about Dante Allen down at Mississippi State, the kid

1616
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 3: from Kentucky goes off for twenty seven. We end up

1617
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 3: getting our biggest win of the year on the road

1618
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 3: at Mississippi State when they go and beat Florida on

1619
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 3: the road that year. Then the next season Oscar sheeb Way,

1620
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 3: we all of a sudden, this dude comes out of

1621
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 3: nowhere ends up being National Player of the Year. We

1622
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 3: go beat Kansas by twenty the team that ends up

1623
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,879
Speaker 3: winning the national championship. Keon Brooks hits all those shots

1624
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 3: throughout that season, an absolutely awesome run. Even last year

1625
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 3: when things weren't going very well. How about Antonio Reeves

1626
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: at Arkansas scores what was it thirty second on the

1627
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 3: road to get a victory that everyone, I mean everyone

1628
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 3: thought we were gonna lose. We did the same thing

1629
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: that year at Tennessee. And then this year kid from

1630
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 3: the thirteenth region from Kentucky, the fifth of five I've

1631
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 3: ranked recruits, comes in and ends up being National Freshman

1632
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 3: of the Year. For a while, this team was the

1633
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 3: most fun team to watch. Antonio Reeves, Rob Dillingham and

1634
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 3: Reed Shephard as good a threesome of shooting as you

1635
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 3: could ever happen. They go win at Auburn, they go

1636
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 3: win at Tennessee, they win at Arkansas and end up

1637
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 3: having a special year throughout most of it. So all

1638
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 3: of that, as I sat there and talked for five

1639
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: straight minutes and gave you all those games, you pictured,

1640
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 3: every single one of those moments. To me, that will

1641
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 3: be in ten years what we think of John cal Perry,

1642
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 3: and that's really important to remember. And now I'm out

1643
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 3: of breath, So why don't we take a break and

1644
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 3: berea back. It's KSR who I had to take a

1645
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,839
Speaker 3: two minutes there, Billy to get my breath back. Sounded

1646
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 3: like one of those mountain preachers. You're on a roll man.

1647
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 3: By the way, I did all that, Billy off the

1648
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 3: top of my head.

1649
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:03,440
Speaker 12: That's impressive.

1650
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. But the thing is, all of you

1651
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 3: knew what I was talking about, and all of you

1652
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 3: were there for that stuff, or at least the ones

1653
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 3: that are old enough to have been there for it,

1654
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 3: So you know that's those are great memories and I

1655
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 3: appreciate you all letting me do it. Let's take a call.

1656
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 3: We just got a couple of minutes. I'm gonna have

1657
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 3: to go so they can put on more handed e.

1658
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 3: What's next, Soup bean, soup bean, go for it.

1659
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 19: I got two things, so after this, I got one

1660
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 19: more thing.

1661
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, we just got two things.

1662
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 19: How happy is Reed Shepherd right now? Seriously? In all honesty,

1663
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 19: because he went from having to possibly be the thing

1664
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 19: that in the back of his mind he was d singed,

1665
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 19: the bbing needed to have any excitement next year. Now

1666
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 19: all that stress is taken off of and we're gonna

1667
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 19: be pumped up with a new coach. He can go

1668
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 19: to the NBA. Now nobody's gonna I mean, it's gonna

1669
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 19: suff like we would want more, reed Shepherd. But it's

1670
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 19: not like it's hurt now. He literally had all the

1671
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 19: weight in the world to come back and be the

1672
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 19: flivver of excitement we were gonna have, and now that's taken

1673
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 19: away from him, and that he should be happy about that.

1674
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'm we'll just have to let

1675
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 3: you do one because you went long. I don't know

1676
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 3: if I totally agree with that, but I hope he

1677
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 3: makes the whatever decision is best for him because he

1678
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 3: deserves it. Thank you all very much. Tomorrow we'll talk

1679
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 3: more about the new coaches. Thanks to Billy for coming

1680
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 3: in on short notice, and thanks the folks at WLAP

1681
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 3: for letting it letting us do the show. Also on

1682
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 3: a personal level, I'll say this as well, a big

1683
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 3: thank you to John Kelpier. Even in times where it's

1684
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 3: time for it to end, it was a great time

1685
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 3: having him as a coach. He made Kentucky basketball cool again,

1686
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 3: and he brought a ton of excitement and goodwill for

1687
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 3: this state. I can't say that I'm gonna wish him

1688
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 3: success at Arkansas. I can't do that because they're in

1689
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 3: the conference. But I do wish him happiness, and I

1690
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 3: do thank him for all that he did for Kentucky

1691
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 3: and on a personal level, for all that he did

1692
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 3: for me over the years. He's a good man and

1693
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 3: he's had a great fifteen years in Lexington. We will

1694
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 3: see you all tomorrow. This has been the KSR Special

1695
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 3: Show on WLAP