WEBVTT - #784 Packers Unscripted: New week arrives 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:19.239 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.040 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.520 by my partner in crime, Weston hod Koitz. We're coming 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.440 to you here from our studios at Lambeufield. Wes here 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.519 to talk about Packer's Family Night. It took place on 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:37.960 Saturday evening inside Lambellfield. More than sixty thousand fans was 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:43.320 the official attendance. And I'll just start with this. I've 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.839 covered a lot of family nights over the years, been 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.040 to more than my share, and they all start to 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.720 run together after a while. Unfortunately, the ones that we 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:57.920 usually remember are for bad reasons, like when Brian Beloga 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.720 tours ACL or when Mason and Crosby had a horrible 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:03.560 night and we all thought he was going to be 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:05.280 replaced as the Packers kicker. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.119 Was the same night? 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:08.280 Was it? That? Was that that same night? 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:08.560 Yeah? 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.080 I was thinking they were with back to best seat. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.880 That's what I mean by it all runs together. I 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.120 thought those were back to back years. Actually those were 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.720 on the same night. Okay, Well, anyway, My point is 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:24.760 we usually don't remember family nights for good reasons or 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.959 really exciting things. But I'm gonna remember this one because 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.840 of that young man who was in front of those 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:35.160 sixty thousand fans and was catching those punts like nobody's 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.039 business man. What a night, what a what an event, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.360 what an activity, and a lifetime memory for that young 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.280 football player from Wapawon, Wisconsin, just down the road. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.840 I was doing my little walk down to the locker 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.080 room with Rob Dumovsky match Schneidman after the practice and 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.560 what was that after the game, and we were kind 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.360 of like, so what happened tonight? Like what was the 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.640 big storyline? And we all agreed it was that young 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.880 dude from upon, like we should have him at the 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.440 podium because sometimes like when there's a big game that 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.400 guys have Aaron Jones, you know, four touchdowns or Shan 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.880 Gary three sacks, they'll go to the podium in addition 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.680 to the quarterback and the head coach. We should have 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.799 had that dude fucking there too. Get a little stepping 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.200 stool he can get up on the podium. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:16.440 Absolutely, boy. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.440 I'll tell you what, though, have you ever seen, especially 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.880 in a family night practice, a sideline come alive the 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.760 way that the Packers did. Jordan Love running out there. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.000 Those guys were fired up. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.600 Man, everybody was just so geeked for this kid. And 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.160 you know, watching Rich Bisaccia, who can be kind of 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:37.800 a stoic, cerebral serious man, just come on glued for 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.400 him and everybody. Once the kid had the two, everybody 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:42.640 wanted him to get the third one. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.440 Oh yeah, oh yeah, nobody wanted that third hit the 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.400 ground like yeah, it was, it was, it was. It 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.360 was impressive. I give him a lot of credit. He 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.880 had he had those first two, he shoved him over 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.920 into his left arm, had him cradled there, and then 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.200 he managed to pin the third one kind of on 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.080 his chest and against the other footballs like right in 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.679 the you know, the same moment. Man. He couldn't have 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:05.560 drawn it up anybody. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.120 No, it was fun. And to hear the crowd, you know, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.680 over more than sixty thousand people in attendance respond to 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.160 that and just get that type of ovation. I mean, 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.320 that's a memory that's gonna last a lifetime for him. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.240 But by and large, I thought it brought a lot 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.840 of energy to lambeau Field as well on one of 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.440 the most fun nights of the year. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:27.079 Well as far as the actual Packers players are concerned, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.960 I thought we kind of go through family, just back 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.200 and forth talking about who we thought stood out here 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.720 and there, starting with the offensive side of the ball. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.680 For me, I thought Jordan Love got off to a 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.640 fast start in that practice. I thought early on in 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.840 the eleven on elevens things were really clicking, especially with 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.840 regard to play action passes. He was finding some throwing 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.680 lanes and having his way with the defense a little bit. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.240 That started to shift later on, as we'll talk about 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.400 I knew you wrote about Romeo Dobbs. He was very 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.200 impressive once again continuing a very strong training camp, and 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:10.600 I'll let you expand on that as well. But another 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.360 guy that actually we didn't really write or talk too 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.600 much about it when we did our three things and 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.080 the stories we wrote and whatnot, But I thought Sean 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.320 Clifford had a pretty solid night. Not to say that 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.800 everything went perfect or that he was lighting things up 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:29.560 or whatnot, but there were moments in that practice where 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.960 I felt like Sean Clifford was was, I guess, I 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:39.960 would say, more in command of the offense and everything 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.880 that was going out there. Then maybe we had seen 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.400 in some places earlier in camp or during the spring, 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.520 and I thought it was. I thought it was a 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.960 really nice step forward for him with the preseason now 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.800 where we're expecting him to play quite a bit. The 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.599 preseason now is right around the cour. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.120 Well, and there is a big difference when you're taking 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.120 on that number two defense as opposed to having you know, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.479 Rashaun Gary breathing down your neck, you know, quite a 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.680 bit just because he is Rashaun Gary. And I feel 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.080 like since Sean went back, you know, with that number 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.080 two unit here over the past week and a half, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.720 you've seen a difference in him, particularly in those two 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.440 minute periods. He was not without flaw. In the final 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.040 drive of practice on Saturday, almost got picked by Robert Rochelle, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.720 but he survived that and led the offense down to 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.360 accomplish what they needed to accomplish, which was getting into 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.960 field goal range. And again I think he was five 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.599 to nine on that series, fifty two yards maybe somewhere 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.960 around there, and got him in the position that they 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.040 wanted to get into, although they did push back the 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.760 kicks to try a longer attempt when Andras Carlson and 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.960 Greg Joseph did go on the field. So this quarterback 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.040 battle in seeing how it all plays out. I always 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.560 tell people don't rush to conclusions and what you see, 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.919 and that goes for whether it's Jordan Love, Sean Clifford, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.320 or Michael Pratt, because this death as a marathon, and 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.320 if you are not even at the preseason games yet, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.240 you really have not learned a whole lot other than 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.560 just seeing maybe some of the adverse moments that guys 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.479 have gone through and how they respond to it. So 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.280 Clifford is a guy that has been here, I thought, 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:18.320 put together a tremendous training camp, a tremendous offseason to 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.800 run away with that number two job last year. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:21.080 Yeah. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.720 And while I think Michael Pratt has done some good things, 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.680 seeing Clifford still run with the twos and Pratt with 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.760 the threes shows you just how much of a difference 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.240 there can be as opposed to, you know, having a 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.920 full year in the system and understanding exactly what Matt 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.880 Lafluur is looking for. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.640 Yeah, and I think as this training camp moves forward now, 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.359 the from what we've heard anyway from Matt Lafleur, it 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.200 sounds like the installation phase of the playbook is pretty 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.840 much done. So now you're going to get into reviewing 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.640 things there's going to be even more of the situational 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.440 stuff in some respects. You know, they'll be doing some 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:01.640 preparing for the preseason games, particularly with those reserve units. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.880 And I'll be interested to see the steps forward that 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:11.360 these backup quarterbacks takes. As that you know, the basic 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:16.440 installs of the offense are done, I think that can 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.840 start to free up the mind a little bit, maybe 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.040 not quite so much thinking and just reacting and playing 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:26.280 football out there. And I'm eager to see what those 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.320 young guys do, because the talent with both of those 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.680 quarterbacks is evident. It's it's just about continuing to progress, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.880 to gain, to gain the command, to gain the command 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.160 of the offense, both sort of physically and mentally well. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:42.640 And the way I like in it too is it's 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.720 almost like you got the undergraduate degree with everything. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:46.920 You know. 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.800 Both of those guys played a huge number of snaps, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.600 a huge number of games in college, basically full starters 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.440 their entire time they were in college. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.080 Both had forty plus college start Yeah, but. 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.480 Once you finally transition over to the National Football League, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.520 now you're in the graduate school. I mean, now you're 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.480 starting to learn the ins and outs of an NFL 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.920 offense and how quickly things speed up. And you know, 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.000 Sean Clifford is such a gamer. I've always I felt 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.200 like that's what makes him a really good prospect as 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.120 a backup quarterback because he can enter into that chaos 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.840 and he can find production, he can find success. How 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.920 does Michael Pratt respond to those moments? Both of those guys. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.640 I don't know how much we're going to see Jordan 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.320 Love this preseason. I'm sure that's the question that is 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.440 going to be asked day in and day out this week. 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.959 But by and large, the preseason is going to belong 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.600 to Sean Clifford, with getting some Michael pract you know, 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.600 sprinkled in there as well. So that's where this test comes. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.319 And if you go back and look at what Jordan 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.600 Love did when he was shadowing you know, Aaron Rodgers 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.760 for those three years, at least two years that he 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.480 had the preseason with it, he had to make the 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.319 most of those chances. And now this will be Clifford's opportunity. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.160 Yeah, And I don't know if there's another player on 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.520 the offensive side of the ball for the Packers that 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:08.439 looks more ready for Week one right now than Romeo Dobbs. 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.880 That guy looks like he could go out and you know, 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.000 like he did in the Dallas playoff game, you know, 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.600 nine catches for one hundred and fifty yards or whatever. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.319 He looks like he'd go out and do that tomorrow. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.840 Yeah, so many people have tried to draw comparisons with 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.400 him a lot of times two Packers receivers. I didn't 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.040 cover the beginning of Jordan Nelson's time with the Packers. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.560 I didn't cover full on as a full time writer. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.880 You know, Randall cobbs first few seasons. But what strikes 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.360 me about Dobbs and why I don't think there's a 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.440 great comp for him, is that he came in as 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.240 a rookie fourth round pick two years ago and looked 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.880 like a legitimate NFL receiver from day one. I'm not 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.840 saying he did everything perfect, but just how calm and 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.120 cool and collected he was, and how he handled that 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.280 adversity year one when both him and Christian Watson were 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.280 sort of thrown out there with all the other injuries 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.360 and things that happened with this receiving court. And since 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.319 then he has just continued to expand his resume. But 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.319 the number one thing when people ask me about Romeo 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.839 Dobbs or all these different receivers, that just jumps out 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.200 of the page about him is how proficient he is 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.800 in the red zone. It shouldn't be that easy, Michael. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.000 You will have thousand yard receivers in the National Football 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:22.160 League that'll have one or two touchdown catches an entire season. Yeah, 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.880 because that's just not a part of their game. Romeo Dobbs, 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.080 whether it was on that goal line fade that he 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.480 caught over Keshawn Nixon, whether it was on the slant 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.200 that he ran before that, the guy has just an 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.680 unquantifiable ability to find space, and even when he doesn't, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.200 he gets his hands on footballs and finds touchdowns. When 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.560 you talk about what you want in a National Football 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.400 League receiver, the way he carries himself, the way he 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.839 runs routes, the way his hands have been since the 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.200 day he walked in the building. I don't know what 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.320 it equates to. I don't know what the numbers are 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.360 gonna look like. But when number eighty seven is on 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.559 the field for the Green Bay Packers, you feel really 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.080 good about their offensive chances. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.520 Yeah, Romeo Dobbs is He's practically the definition of a 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.720 receiver who attacks the football. He doesn't catch the football, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.320 he attacks it and and that's the thing that stands 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:18.480 out about him that is so impressive. Hard at this point, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.080 you know, we're two weeks into training camp, really hard 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.960 to get a sense of where things are with the 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:28.280 Packers running game. Obviously, we've talked before about in earlier 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.800 episodes on the show about some of the shuffling going 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.840 on in the offensive line. The good news there, it 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.360 sounds like Zach Tom will be back in eleven on 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.440 eleven drills this week, according to Matt le Floor when 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.920 he was asked about that after the family night workout. So, 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.880 getting Zach Tom back as you're starting right tackle, hopefully 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.760 that can help to stabilize some things. And when we 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.040 get into the preseason games, you know, I know the starters, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.160 if they're gonna play, they're not gonna play a whole bunch. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.880 But it's really not until the preseason games that we 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.960 get an idea of where the Packers are with their 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.360 running game, because then it's finally the live tackling and 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.040 and you know things are are for real. It's so 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.240 hard to tell. It just does it just doesn't feel 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.800 like this Packers ground game has has gotten itself established 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.000 like where where it wants to be and and Josh 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.800 Jacobs has missed some practices. That's certainly a factor there 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.920 as well. But that's gonna be something I'll be keeping 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.320 my eye on as as we get closer to the 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.040 to the preseason games. Here. On the defensive side of 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.880 the ball, we've already mentioned his name, Rashaun Gary. There 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.000 hasn't been a backup right tackle on this Packers offensive 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.320 line that can block him. I mean, let's just be honest. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.600 They've all they've been rotating different guys in Zach Tom's absence, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.200 and they've all had their trouble with Rashaan Gary. So 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.200 that's the other matchup to watch here moving forward is 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.320 now that Zach Tom will be back at right tackle. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.120 You know, how how does he do against Rashaun Gary. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:02.080 I thought in the defensive back field a few guys 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.800 really stood out to me in terms of their play 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.640 on Saturday night. I thought Eric Stokes had a defent 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.480 night at corner. I thought Javon Bullard really showed some 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.960 aggression attacking the ball from the defensive side of things, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.400 breaking up a couple of passes and I'll give another 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.000 tip of the cap to uh to Kylan King, the 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.520 rookie seventh round pick out of Penn State. I was watching, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.520 I know, you had your binoculars on and you were 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.520 watching the offensive defensive line one on ones that were 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.320 way at one end of the field. I was watching 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:37.520 the pass catcher, pass defender one on ones that were 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.440 in the that were in the other end zone. And 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:45.440 Kaylan King he goes out there, he's he's he's a 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.600 slot guy for a couple of one on one reps. Now, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.400 slot cornerback one on one in the end zone, You've 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.160 got no chance. I mean, you know, when you're an 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.280 outside corner, okay, you take inside leverage, you make the 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.200 guy run the fade, and then you try to defend 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.240 the fade. Right, Well, if you're in the slot and 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.520 it's a one on one in the end zone and 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.920 there's nobody else out there, there's nothing you can I mean, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:16.559 it is it is way too easy for these quarterbacks 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.120 and receivers to hook up for a touchdown. And King 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.280 gave up a couple of touchdowns on his first couple 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.160 of reps, and it looked like, you know things just 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.400 you know, he wasn't quite into it. Well. Then by 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.800 the end of that drill he did get a pass 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.560 breakup on I believe it was his third rep and 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.800 the one on ones in the end zone. And as 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.440 I've as I, you know, I said with caylen King 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.000 when he got the interception of Jordan Love earlier in 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:45.560 training camp, when that young guy makes a play, then suddenly, 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.440 like you know, his game starts to rise, his game 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.840 goes to another level. And I thought we saw him 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.080 really getting after it in the eleven on eleven and 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.280 I thought it was, you know, kind of his pass 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.320 breakup at the end of the one on ones that 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.960 that sparked him a little bit. And and again for 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.960 a young guy crowded position room trying to make his 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.360 way see where he fits, you know, earn a place 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.520 on this roster and on this team, I thought he 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.600 had another He acquitted himself pretty well for the first 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.360 time under the lights at Lambo. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.400 To expand this out to the entire secondary, I feel 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.040 like the Packers have gotten what they wanted out of 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.400 this draft class in terms of being able to push 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.160 the guys that have already been on this roster, looking 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.400 specifically at safety first, Matt Lafleur talking last week about 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.560 the camp that Anthony Johnson Junior has put together as 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.920 a guy that's trying to sort of defend a potential 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.960 starting position in the secondary after being there for most 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.560 of the off season program. The thing that I get 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.440 a kick out of is that whenever time they put 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.440 in Bullard like they did on Saturday Night, or they 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.320 have Evan Williams in there, it just seems like whoever 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.400 the safety has been, I've walked away from that practice 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.720 going yeah, that could be the guy, and then the 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.880 next guy comes in and does something good. They all 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.000 offer something different. What's gonna help Williams and Bullard is 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.360 the fact that they have that versatility to play the slot. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.520 I think we very easily could see either of them 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.920 in the dime at some point as well, absolutely, just 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.600 based on what their credentials are and their ability to 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.760 move down. But looking at cornerback, it's such a unique 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.240 position because that was the one that Green Bay didn't address. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.960 They drafted three safeties before they drafted a cornerback. They 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.240 waited until day three, fourth the last pick I believe 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.800 it was to draft King and this guy, Mike. It 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.400 happens all the time in the league. You see it. 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.680 Guys like Micah Hyde. They don't run the world's fastest 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.800 forty time, and everybody kind of puts them in a box. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.280 But it's how do they play the game? Do they 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.120 play at that speed or do they play faster? What 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.120 has impressed me about King is just how quickly he plays, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.480 And you are one hundred percent right when the confidence 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.560 is there, when the snowball starts building, this guy gets 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.920 faster and faster and more confident and triggers even quicker. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.680 And when he's made plays, that's when he's doing it. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.040 He's triggering, and I could see why. That's why the 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.280 Packers feel like that could potentially be a good spot 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.159 for him in the slot, because it's allowing him to 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.440 use his body more and it's allowing him to use 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.679 those deductive skills to go out there and do it. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.320 Preseason is gonna be a huge challenge. That's gonna be 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.760 the next step for him. The joint practice with Denver. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.880 I can't wait to watch it. But for the Green 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.199 Bay Packers to invest the resources that they did in 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.600 the draft in that safety and secondary, in cornerback, the secondary, 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.080 I love everything I've seen because all these guys, I've 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.879 looked at them and said to myself, that's what you 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.840 want to see in terms of being able to rise 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:33.400 the standard in that room. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.760 Yeah, you have to. There's you know, we always talk 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.720 about the short memory and things like that at cornerback, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.520 and that's something that anybody who plays that position you 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.920 have to learn. You have to have that mentality. There's 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.040 also a fearlessness you have to have to play that position. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.440 You can't be you can't be afraid that you're gonna 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.400 get flagged for past interference or some kind of contact. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.480 It's gonna happen. I mean, nobody's gonna go through a 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.920 season or even a month, you know, flag free. At 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.200 that position, you have to have the fearlessness. And we 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.400 saw that. We saw sort of that level of fearlessness 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.359 early on last year with Carrington Valentine as a seventh 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.560 rounder when he got thrown into the mix because of 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.040 the injuries and he was playing in games like more 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.480 than we ever expected. I'm seeing a little bit of that, 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.639 you know already with with Cale and King, and I'm 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.119 eager to see, you know, kind of where he goes 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.359 and where he takes it from here. I got to 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.560 take care of some sponsor business here Wes before I 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.479 forget serious. 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This is the first time Caleb Jones, the 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.280 huge left tackle prospect, tackle prospect the Packers have been 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.640 developing the past two years, he was able to get 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.520 in there with the number ones a little bit in 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.439 this practice, and he was talking to Paul Brettel about 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.399 this in the locker room afterwards, and the challenge of 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.560 trying to block Overshawn Gary and acknowledging that he got 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.600 him on a play, and then there was a play 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:29.520 where he got him too. 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:29.880 Yep. 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.000 On the other side of things, I'm telling you, man, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.359 when it comes down to it, the way that Rashaun 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.880 Gary plays his position and the way he practices, there 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.680 might be better outside linebackers and pass rushers in the 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.040 National Football League than Gary. You're not going to get 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.040 anybody that goes harder at you in a practice than 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.560 he does. That is the ultimate litmus test for I 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.080 think these tackles and these guys that are competing for 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.600 that swing tackle role, which is now you look at 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.800 Caleb Jones being back from the hamstring, He's in that. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.480 Kadem Telford has gotten a lot of number one reps camp, 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.879 and then certainly Andre Dillard is the veteran, and then 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:05.840 Luke Tanuda I thought had a really good family night 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.840 as well. He looked good on some of the right 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.760 guard stuff he was doing. In addition to later in 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.080 the practice working at tackle, You're not going to see 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.480