1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This is John. This is the Okay Storytime podcast hosts, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: and we have some stories coming up for you. That's right, 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: But before that, we have a little more sol of 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: a two minute outbreak from the sponsors keeping the show delicious. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: Hmmm, my husband is starting to gross me out. He's 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: not doing anything about it. Ew I forty female, my 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: husband forty male. Have been together since high school. We've 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: built a financially stable and respectful relationship. He is a 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: great father, a role model to our young children. He 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: does the equal share around the house laundry, cooking, parenting, etcetera. 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: By the way, that's come from existing key three three 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: three and if you want tousbmit your own stories, go 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: to the rsash Okay Storytime suber it. So for the 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: past three to five years, I'm continuously finding him less 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: and less attractive. 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: Ooh. 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: We've been to counseling together over this, and we've had 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: many peaceful conversations, but nothing seems to improve from my perspective. 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to listen a few exams and before Reddit 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: jumps on me like a group of feral doughts saying 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: these things are stupid, please understand we've been together for 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: a long time, and all the little things eventually snowball 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: into big things. 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Are you ready's do it? He forgets about seventy percent 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: of our conversation. Why is this talking about me? 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: I'm having to give him reminder receipts on everything we've 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: talked about. Man, that sounds me, that sounds like me. 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: I forget so many conversations. He stores wall awake. Oh 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: that's me, bro, Oh, that's me Ali. When we were 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: together in that I was reading and she like looked 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: at me and was like, are you still awake? Because 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: I breathed so heavy because I can't breathe through my nose. 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: Our boy was gonna get fixed soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting my kim K nose job in a bit. 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Anyway, he stores wall awake. Literally, his face 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: and hair smells so bad to me. Anyways, I'm pretty 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: sure it's just as bodily oils. 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Are you zooming it of you? Again? 39 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: No? 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: He's it on me. I'm like, dang, dude, get wrecked. 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: John Effort. 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: When he wants attention, he gets really immature and starts 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: talking in a baby voice. 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Do Bobby, does he not? He does do it sometimes 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: for a joke set. He leaves flickers and skin flakes 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: in it around the don't do it. 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: I could go on with more examples, but let's not 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: keep you here forever. We've talked about every single one 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: of these things and more. If there could be a 50 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: medical issue, He's been to a doctor. Everything is fixable, 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: but it's not being fixed. I know I'm not perfect, 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: but these things seem to irritate me to my core. 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm screaming at the top of my lungs, 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: bashing my head through a wall. That's about it, but 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: I feel desperate. This cannot be the rest of my life. 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: How do I get over this? Or what can we 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: do to further live halfway the rest of our lives? 58 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: We got an edit, We got an update. We are 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: less than a tenth through. But what do we think 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: about this laundry list of grievances? 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is uh you you are. We 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: are venturing into like gray area right where it's like, okay, 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: like how much someone like showers or whatever. But it 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: does come to a point where it's like, okay, if 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: you can't like live with that person. Also, I think 66 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: like the baby voice and the. 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: One's worse to you guys. Also, like of the laundry lists, right, 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: like which which one? Which one is the worst one? 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Because we got snoring, wall awake. 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: That one that's light. 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: We got smelly face and hair, we got boogers and 72 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: skin flakes in the sink. 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Seventy percent of conversations for conversations. 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: Was another one. 75 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: There's another one. There's another one, smell to head smells. Smell. 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we already said baby voice, yeah, baby voice and 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: buggers and skin flakes and snoring. 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I call snoring snoring. That's the light work. 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: Maybe either baby voice or head smell, because like you're 80 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: if they just smell bad all like really bad all 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: the time, it just comes to a point where, like, 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, I can't bad smell is definitely yeah, yeah, 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: it's just like you can't live with that for I 84 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: don't know, it reaches a point I feel. 85 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're like I think honestly, like 86 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: maybe the way to get the bad smell is just 87 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: be like thee we will baby one your takeo Bath 88 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: use his own his own methods against it. 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: But he's an angry baby voice. He's like we space, 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you does. 91 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: It too well he's been practicing. Oh yeah, A lot 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: of people are saying baby voice. I didn't know baby 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: voice was so was so uh skin flakes like Andrew 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: h I could get everyone's got skin flakes. 95 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Ye, true, true. But if it's like I look at 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: your hair and you have some of your hair and 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: it's like but it's then the same thing. 98 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: We can help get some shampoo or something. Let's like 99 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: figure this out together. 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, I to solve. 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: But I think if you solve the hair and face 102 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: smele you saw the skin flake, ooh yeah, probably ming 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: mag safety probably does it use soap, unlike this guy 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: who has eighteen and one shampoo now makes to chat 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: all the soap eighteen one. Yeah, dude, I even tried 106 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: brushing my teeth that if you watch a live you 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: know what's up. 108 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: You know what's up. 109 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: Anyway, Edit, this is really blowing up, and I'm thankful 110 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: for everyone's comments. Keep commenting. I think a lot of 111 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: us are finding community and can resonate with one another. 112 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: Even in the disagreements. There's a lot of valuable information. 113 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: There's a lot of actual items that I am considering 114 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: as I plan my next move. So more medical checkups, 115 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: specialist appointments, therapy HRT, and big girl conversations, et cetera. 116 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: Many balls are up in the air, and we'll come 117 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: back at June update once I have the ducks in 118 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: a row. We got some all the comments. But John, 119 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: what do you think OP should do to remedy this 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: smelly baby man? 121 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like they said they had been 122 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: in like counseling, and she's kind of like laid out 123 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: this list right. 124 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: This is like the proposed methods of getting to greener pastures. 125 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: So these have not been these have not been enacted, 126 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: but they are in the process of potentially being enacted. 127 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest, like bottom line 128 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: thing is just like very clearly communicating like hey, if 129 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: things like if you literally just smell bad twenty four 130 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: to seven, are constantly use the baby voice and give 131 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: it like upset it with me in an immature way, 132 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: like these are just not things I can live with forever. 133 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: I can't just like sit here while you smell like 134 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: doukie twenty four to seven. You know it reaches a point, 135 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: so let's work together to figure out what to do 136 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: about it. If you want to, you know care and 137 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: work on a relationship. 138 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: Also, I feel like, I mean, they're they're a spicy sleep. 139 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: Life must be in the toilet to be right. Gotta 140 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: be the toilet. Yeah, what are you thinking? 141 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: The thing? I have no idea what you're thinking. Man, 142 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: he uses the baby voice? 143 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: Oh god, Yeah, how do you ask someone to stop 144 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: using a baby voice? 145 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't like it. Stop music, baby voice. Stop using 146 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: a baby voice too much? Yeah, there it is. 147 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: Give him another voice to use in another context, like hey, 148 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: when you're needy, I don't like the baby voice, but 149 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: if you're ever happy, he was like a Russian accent, 150 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: and I would like to engage you with you in 151 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: that way. 152 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: It's a lot. There we go. That's the only voice 153 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: I want to hear in bed. 154 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: Oh all right, we got the the comments, so go 155 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: under one. Why only the last three to five years 156 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: is this irritating you? You've been together a lot longer, 157 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: So this his behavior suddenly change to this? Or something 158 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: changed with you. 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: Like like I was thinking that too, Like medication changed 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: recently or something like that. 161 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did she get off birth control? And 162 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: that's twice so smelly, because do you know about that? 163 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: John changes like the way you perceive smell and stuff. 164 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: So birth can If you're on birth control and you 165 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: are attracted to someone and you get off of it, 166 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: you may not be attracted them anymore because your hormones 167 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: have changed and stuff. Yeah, but Opie said, we had 168 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: kids later in life. As two young single people, we 169 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: always just had fun and not a lot bothered us. 170 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: Throw kids in the mix and everything got flipped upside down. 171 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: I was the primary caregiver to our kids, staying home 172 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: with them for five years. It's only been in the 173 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: past three to five years that I'm back to my 174 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: life outside the home, and all of this irritates me now. 175 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: In commenter two and before Reddit heard jumps in and 176 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: saying these things are stupid. Please understand we've been together 177 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: for a long time and a lot of these little 178 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: things snowball, and the commenter says, I don't think these 179 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: things are stupid. I worry that you frame your concerns 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: that way at all, Like him never remembering conversations. It's tiring. 181 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: It means you have to waste a lot of time 182 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: and energy constantly refreshing his memory. And I'm guessing having 183 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: to mother him in terms of scheduling and stuff as 184 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: a result, throwing well awake. I mean, I just don't 185 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: see how that isn't a medical thing. You say he 186 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: offers equal participation in the house, but he doesn't, he 187 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: doesn't clean up after using the sink, and him constantly 188 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: defaulting to an unhealthy communication style when he wants something, 189 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: despite you likely bringing it up in counseling. Josie's really 190 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: not taking any steps forward. These are all absolutely valid problems. 191 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: I suspect part of you downplaying them now is how 192 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: you got this far in the first place. None of 193 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: these are new. They should have been bigger deals from 194 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: the start, but you pushed through and now you just 195 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: can't anymore. Maybe you just have to be a little 196 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: more blunt and direct about your burnout, especially in therapy. 197 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: I think that's a good point point out the utter 198 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: lack of progress and point out you feel like you 199 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: are being forced to leave as a results. I don't 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: know about the force to leave, bit. I feel like 201 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: that feels a little bit much. 202 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's just like, I mean, we kind 203 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: of well, I feel like it talked about earlier. It's like, hey, 204 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can continue. I don't know. 205 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I like for the rest of my days in this 206 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: relationship with this, so there comes a point, Hope. 207 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: He responds, I appreciate the validation and calling me out 208 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: for downplaying it. Sometimes I feel so embarrassed trying to 209 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: explain this to close friends who have husbands who are 210 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: not equal partners. And you're right, I do need to 211 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: be more blunt with him. Downplaying it isn't going to 212 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: make him realize how irritated I am. And there is 213 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: a question is there any chance that Ope's husband did 214 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: not switch out of his party lifestyle? And Ope responds, 215 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: we didn't party in the way that's being implied. The 216 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: fun we had was travel, hiking, sports. He does partake 217 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: in thhc oil at night, and we do have social 218 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: drinks on the weekend and convert to three. Do you 219 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: think he's in love with you? Have you talked about it? 220 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: Nope? 221 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: He responds, we do. He loves me so much and 222 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: I love him too, But my love feels like it's changing, 223 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: whereas his love is still on the relative plane of 224 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 2: romantic love. That's what makes this really hard for me 225 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: to work through. If we both fell out at the 226 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: same time, we'd be amazing co parents and have the 227 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: healthiest relationship possible for kids. But it's definitely one sided. 228 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: And if I actually ended my marriage because of this, 229 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: it would be so devastating. We have an update, but yeah, 230 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like this doesn't feel marriage ending yet. 231 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: I understand it's a lot of small things, but it 232 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: feels like, I mean, definitely bring them up in a 233 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: more blunt aggressive is the wrong word, but more direct way. 234 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: And I mean I think I think maybe spare his 235 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: feelings less than just say like, all right, like this 236 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: this is what I need from you, And I think 237 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: maybe talk about like I feel myself, you know, maybe 238 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: less attracted. You could even just say like I feel 239 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: myself less attracted to you because of like your lack 240 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: of hygiene and want I want to feel attracted to you. 241 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm curious, like maybe it is more the attraction, But 242 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: I I wonder, like on the baby voice and him 243 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: like acting really really immature in like a child, I 244 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: wonder how big of a part that plays in it, 245 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: Because to me, I'm like, oh, if someone literally is 246 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: just like completely acting a child and you can't like 247 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: work with them or talk with him. 248 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: Then yeah, but I do I mean he like she does, 249 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: say he's like a good father and stuff. So I 250 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: think that I think there are elements that he's and 251 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: like she, he says he's an equal partner in terms 252 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: of like housing responsibility. 253 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: So when it comes to hygiene and maybe cleaning up 254 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: after him, like with the sink, there may be that 255 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: kid aspect, like oh I have another kid in the house. Sometimes. 256 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe there's aspects that he's He's definitely 257 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: not holding up his end, but I think there's enough 258 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: adults that I'm seeing that I think you can have 259 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: a conversation, but. 260 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: You won't know until you have it. This is true. 261 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: Miss Jaybird says, nothing says super sexy like having the 262 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: mother a grown ass adults. Mommy got an update, mommy, 263 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: but we got an update. 264 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Let's go first. 265 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone who commented and took the time 266 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: to share insight. I read as much as I could 267 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: as a newbie redditor. It was pretty overwhelming. Just a 268 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: few of my own comments. I do recognize I'm in 269 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: perry menopause. I will be talking to my doctor about this. 270 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: Even though the rage boils my entire being, I still 271 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: remember how to be gentle, kind and empathetic. I was 272 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: never a raging witch towards him, like a few suggested. 273 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm more forceful with my tone to truly get my 274 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: message across. As many of you pointed out in the comments, 275 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: I've let a lot slide in the past, which is 276 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: how I've gotten here, so perry menopause rage is actually 277 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: emboldening me to be more assertive. 278 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: It's like the transitional state into minipause. 279 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: My annoyance is amplified, but his behavior is still unacceptable. 280 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: He doesn't have ADHD. That's actually me lol, unless mine 281 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: is so bad. He looks neurotypical low. He has gained 282 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: weight over the past few years. He's not obese, but 283 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: he's an athlete the majority of his life, and so 284 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: the extra fifty to seventy pounds is probably a lot 285 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: for him and is causing a lot of the issues. 286 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: The hygiene issues will have to be discussed another day. 287 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: Based on what happened tonight, I don't think he could 288 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: have handled it. Oh, Oh, what's up? I mean, I'm 289 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: just I'm ready for the I'm ready for the shooter drop. 290 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: And there's only I mean, the thing is, there's only 291 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: one way to find out, and you gotta talk. You 292 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: gotta conuckate those things, all right. 293 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: So I will be making skincare suggestions, but will not 294 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: be purchasing things for him. He's a grown bump man 295 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: and can do that himself. I've been proactive to make 296 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: sure I'm taking care of myself as I age. I 297 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: don't need to be making his doctor appointments in buying 298 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: him his skincare and the baby voice thing. I'll just 299 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: keep telling him it's deeply unattractive and honestly gross, and 300 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: I will not be having spicy sleep with any man 301 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: who chooses to talk to me like that. I'm happy 302 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: to answer any more questions, but as this sub only 303 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: lets me do one update, I guess this is it 304 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: the update. 305 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: Sorry so long. It was like talking to a child. 306 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: So tonight we were relaxing in bed and I began 307 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: by saying, have you ever considered getting tested or sleep apnea? 308 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: He says apprehensively, yes, I have, and waited for me 309 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: to continue. I said, I've been doing some research and 310 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if maybe you have it because of the 311 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: storing while being wide awake. He said he would like 312 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: to try to exercise first, because he knows that's where 313 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: a lot of his breathing problems stem from. I continued 314 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: by saying, it's not just the storing, it's the lack 315 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: of oxygen. Maybe that would explain the weak memory. 316 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: We are connecting some notts here, okay, okay. 317 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: I also as a note, I would probably not bring 318 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: in all of these things at the same time. I 319 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: might if he's already like sensitive, I might bringing in 320 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: one at a time, you know. 321 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Or we could put up an FBI corkboard and connect 322 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: every single one of his ailments with red yarnd. 323 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: Honestly to the bottom of it. I'm so so like 324 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: when I'm getting by nose fixed. I'm so excited to 325 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: breathe more. I think you'll have like I think you 326 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: get so much energy. It's just like you. I mean, 327 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: lack of oxygen causes so many problems. 328 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: That is very true. 329 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: But he continued to say he knows he has a 330 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: thick neck and wants to try working out first. I 331 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: stayed quiet for a long time after this. Eventually, I said, 332 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: you've been saying you want to exercise for a long 333 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: time and it hasn't happened. It's fine that you want 334 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: to get back in shape. But I'm more concerned about 335 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: the lack of memory, and I can't wait around for 336 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: you to find a time to work out. I feel 337 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: like we can't have meaningful conversations together. I can't trust 338 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: you're going to remember them. He just kept going back 339 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: to the extra solution, so I said, I'm grasping its 340 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: solutions to present to you, hoping you'll consider something to 341 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: improve this. This is a youth thing now, and I 342 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: can't do. 343 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: It for you. 344 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: I've been giving you suggestions for a while and now, 345 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: including getting tested for sleep apnea. Choose what you want 346 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: to do or not. But I can't live like this anymore. 347 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is it, because I think 348 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: we go from an area where we're like you're putting 349 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: him on the defensive. You're putting him on the defensive, 350 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, you're it's like it's like more attacking. 351 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: When when you could say, like, hey, I'm going to 352 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: be honest, like for me personally, you know this is 353 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: some and then he could you're trying to like control 354 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: I guess exactly what he's going to do, versus saying, hey, 355 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: here's how I feel, and like where I'm like, you know, 356 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: if I'm honest, I don't know if I can, you know, 357 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: I guess live my life with there. 358 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: I feel like I would be I would talk about 359 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: your experience a little bit more like like I feel 360 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: like going straight to the I don't know if I 361 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: can live like this anymore. Is like, yeah, I need 362 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: a breakup language, which I don't. I think is kind 363 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: of not you know, not necessary yet. Yeah, but I 364 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: would say like, hey, like I'm feeling less attracted to 365 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: you because I can't get good sleep. I feel like 366 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: we're not having great conversations like here, and I think 367 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: like for this relationship to work and to be the 368 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: best it can be, I need you to start working 369 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: on these things, like now I need to see it. 370 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 371 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: Another thing that I didn't like was he's gonna have 372 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: to buy his own face skincare. 373 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. 374 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: What I was thinking is like it seems like it's 375 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: all on him instead of like a team effort. 376 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 377 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: If if Angie was like, let's work on your face care, 378 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: she'd probably buy the stuff and be like, let's do 379 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: it one day together, just to understand what that looks like. 380 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: And like for the workout thing Hey, let's just take 381 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: a walk after we eat. I don't know, just something 382 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: to kind of snowball that effect. 383 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't care about that as much as I 384 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: do like being like, hey, I she's like, here's this 385 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: like prescription, you're not doing any of the to do 386 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: lists that I'm like trying to make you do, Like 387 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: why aren't you doing my to do lists? Because I 388 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: feel like it also takes it away from the like, 389 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, productive solutions and more just like attacking like. 390 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again like she is, she is snapping because 391 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: this has it's been so long that she's had to 392 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: deal with this, So I understand that. I just think 393 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: if she's trying to get her way, I don't know 394 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: if this is the best way to do it. I'm 395 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: curious what Chazz to say about this, And Slyly Toad 396 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: says at this point, though I feel it's necessary. Have 397 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: you ever had the same conversation with the partner over 398 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: and over again? You're a poison tonic? That is the 399 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: angel move. But putting all the pressure on op Lady 400 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: Morgan says talking to him about it for years hasn't 401 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: inspired him to do anything. I don't know if she's 402 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: really brought it up as directly before. 403 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so slightly. Toad's his comment. I would ask him, 404 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: could you share how you think I feel about it? 405 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: So like, basically, do you understand the severity of like 406 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: my feelings on it, because maybe he legitimately doesn't understand, 407 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: but like it is of course annoying to have that conversation. 408 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: Then you tell him what that is. 409 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: Guess I'm just in such a healthy relationship. I didn't 410 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: think of that aspect. 411 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: Well. 412 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: It was quiet for a long time, and it was 413 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: pretty obvious he wasn't really understanding the full scope of it. Man, 414 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: it's not having enough air to his brain. So I 415 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: continue to say that I don't have a partner I 416 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: can trust to have any type of conversation with because 417 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: there's no guarantee that he'll remember it. I try to 418 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: have mindless conversation about plans that we have are about 419 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: the kids, and when he proves again that he can't remember, 420 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 2: it makes me feel even more alone. I told him 421 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: I can have a partner where I can't connect with 422 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: or feel I can share important things with, knowing I'll 423 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: be pointed down, knowing that I'll be disappointed and let down. Later, 424 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: he tried to deflect by asking how often I thought 425 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: this was happening. Let me tell you if I was 426 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: a violent person, now is about the time I would 427 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: have ripped out his eyeballs. He seriously was not understanding 428 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: the severity of this. I said, it happens enough that 429 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: I try to give you a little, but when you forget. 430 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: I reminded all over again that you do this often. 431 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: I'm angry all the time about it. Is how often 432 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: you forget? If you need that indicator? He acknowledged this. 433 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: I asked him if he noticed the majority of our 434 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: conversations in the past few years happen over text. I 435 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: told him this because I think if it's in writing, 436 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: at least he can go back and reread and remind himself. 437 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: This is why I don't talk to him in person anymore. 438 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I don't know if this has been. 439 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: Surface to him. It seems like the first like honest 440 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: conversations they're having. I can see that. Yeah, I think it, 441 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: and I get it can be hard to fully communicate 442 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: and have someone download how severe maybe say out of 443 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: like a scale of ten, you know, ten, being like 444 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm divorcing you like right now, you know, and I 445 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, yeah, I agree, though. 446 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: This is why I don't want to talk to him 447 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: in person anymore. He deflected again by saying he thought 448 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: we texted more because the kids aren't around and it's 449 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: easier to focus and have a conversation. He thought I 450 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: wasn't talking to him in person because I'd rather be 451 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: on my phone or reading. I told him I do 452 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: those things because I don't want to talk to him 453 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: in person. By the way, you can always talk to us, 454 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, in person virtually by listening to full episodes 455 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: of stories just like this. Go to Spotify app podcast 456 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: or your favorite podcast app and search Okay, storytime. I 457 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: swear these are place aggressively. I love it. There's another 458 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: relevant update. But yeah, John, what do you think about 459 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: where we are? 460 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: I mean, again kind of echoing what we've been saying, 461 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: like it is definitely possible that she's already communicated this, 462 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: but I am like, have we really truly fully sat 463 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: him down and understood like how important these things are 464 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: to you, especially before going on the offensive and like 465 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: trying to prescribe and getting angry at all these things 466 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: he's not doing. You know, Oh you said you'd work out. 467 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: Why aren't you working out? It's like, no, that's I 468 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: feel like we're getting away from the point at that 469 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: at that juncture. 470 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that there is communication happening. Yes, yeah, 471 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 2: it is frustrated communication. Yes, that will get him closer. 472 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: I think, you know, even frustrated communication can be better 473 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: than no communication. Absolutely, So I'm glad that you're taking 474 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: this step. But he's definitely I mean like, I feel 475 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: like hearing this, it's gonna be a you're just gonna 476 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: put on on the offensive, yeah, which yeah, may not, 477 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: may not produce the results that you desire. So I 478 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: finally said, he needs to figure this out because I 479 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: can't live like this. It's lonely and isolating. I can't 480 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: talk about anything from silly, meaningless things to more serious issues. 481 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: I need a partner who's stepping up for me and 482 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: wants to have an integrated life. When I feel disconnected 483 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: from him, it seeps into every other aspect of our 484 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: relationship and there's no connection happening anywhere. Because of this, 485 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: I reminded him to choose what solution he wants to explore, 486 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: but I won't be providing any more suggestions. This is 487 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: a hymn thing to fix, and if it doesn't get 488 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: figured out, I don't think I can survive the relationship. 489 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: I left it at that. He rolled over and didn't 490 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: say anything, so I'd asked the decision is on him now. 491 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: I hope my message was clear. I don't know if 492 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: he'll actually pursue anything, but I know if nothing changes, 493 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: I am done with this marriage. I didn't truly feel 494 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: how lonely I am until I was trying to express 495 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: that to him tonight, And there are some relevant. 496 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: Comment sentence that I feel sums up my entire feeling 497 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: on the story. It's a hymn thing to fix. Is 498 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: he broken? Yeah? I think, like, yes, these are things 499 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: that you don't want in the relationship. But I don't know. 500 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: It implies at a baseline that he is like wrong, 501 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: like like his breathing like Bro's got breathe, you know, 502 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: So I think that attitude is just going to not 503 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: be conducive to actually getting to the bottom of this. 504 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I I think there is a lot of 505 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: work that he needs to do. Totally, totally would I 506 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: would echo what John's saying in that I think when 507 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: you phrase when you phrase relationship issues as a you problem. 508 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: You know you're not coming to a relationship, you know 509 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: you're like I think, yes, he does have to do 510 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: heavy lifting, But I think relationship should be in terms 511 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: of like us, like we're going to work on this together, 512 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: like you know, I want to support you in getting better. 513 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: At least that's how I would want to feel relationship, 514 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: a healthy relationship. 515 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: But I think where's the line, where's the line of 516 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: we we we and whenever you are the ones taken 517 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: initiative and they're not taking up their end. 518 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: It's like the equal yoke thing. 519 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree. I think there's a point he 520 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: has to He has to. He has to pick pickup 521 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: slack for sure. But I just I would love I 522 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: would love the the. 523 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: The language to be a little bit more more. We 524 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: Tempest says OPI needs therapy two. 525 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: In my opinion, Sam the Caterpillar says his unwillingness to 526 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: change is on him, though Kat says so much for 527 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: in sickness and health and good times and bad. Sophia 528 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: Kallen says he won't change because she's been trying for 529 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: years and never left him. He knows she'll stay. 530 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: Which I mean that totally could be the case, and 531 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, well this isn't this isn't gonna work. 532 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we got some relevant comments. So has Opie's 533 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 2: husband been tested for any medical conditions since he seems 534 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: to forget or doesn't want to remember details, OPI responds, 535 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: he hasn't been tested for anything. In my original posts, 536 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: I did mention he's been to the doctor and nothing 537 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: came of it. But now that I think of it, 538 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: he probably fed the doc the same line about working 539 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: out losing weight, and we know our docs like to 540 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: blame a lot of body size, so probably went along 541 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: with it. I stood up late last night reflecting on 542 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: a lot, and I realized he's fine at work New Development, 543 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: but also makes this all the more pathetic for me. 544 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: He manages a lot of moving parts through multiple ongoing projects. 545 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: He seems capable from what he tells me about work. 546 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 2: One of the execs just came back from stress leave 547 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: as his memory was failing, and my husband had a 548 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: lot to say about that. So it's not looking good 549 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: for us. Someone else suggested maybe he's weaponizing this, like 550 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: weaponizing cont and competence totally. OPI responds to the comments 551 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: about leaving her husband, and OPI responds, I'm not leaving 552 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: him because of his memory loss after going through all 553 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: the medicals, if nothing is discovered and he just sucks 554 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: at prioritizing us, I'm leaving him because I'm lonely and 555 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: don't have a companion. I don't need to stay with 556 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: someone who doesn't want to connect with me and only 557 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: wants to help pay bills and raise kids. I can 558 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: do all of that on my own while finding someone 559 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: who wants to share a meaningful life together. 560 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: And OP responds. 561 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: Clarifying on lifestyle abilities her husband has, OP says, he 562 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: can drive a vehicle, he can work, he can play 563 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: and care for our kids. He can cook, he can clean, 564 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: he can fix things, he can hang out with friends, 565 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: he can make a doctor's appointment. 566 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: And that's where it ends. That's it. Yeah, I don't 567 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: know if it's gonna work out. Yeah. Wait, read this one. 568 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: How long can the flakes of yesterday fall down on 569 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: her tooth? 570 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: Oh? What is that? Man? Skin flakes? 571 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: Skin flakes? How long can the flakes of yesterday fall 572 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: down on her toothbrush? 573 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: Because he won't clean up after himself. That reads like 574 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: a It's deep that is deep flakes of yesterday and 575 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: sleepy saying says this wants me to really read this. 576 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: Opie said, they've been in therapy for years about it. Yeah, 577 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean that is a long time. And I'm assuming 578 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: he's been in therapy for together, Yeah, for years about it. 579 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: That's I think so. And that's also assuming that there's 580 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: like a like a couple's counselor with them. So I 581 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: mean he yeah, you get to a breaking point, you 582 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: get Yeah. I think I think it's recent breaking point, 583 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: which is fine. You know, like I think she's she's 584 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: well within her right to be like, hey, this is 585 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: just not it for me. 586 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: It is interesting how like the rhetoric towards the husband 587 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: has gone like like it was kind of like more 588 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: positive in the beginning. Yeah, then it like really turned 589 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: like like like the resolve towards ending the relationship was 590 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 2: kind of like strong at the. 591 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: End, and maybe it's like, hey, we've we've gone on 592 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: too long, so it's like all right, we're both just 593 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: like frustrating ourselves where we could just rebuild as like 594 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: he parents and relationship that way. I don't know. 595 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: I was also wondering about this, is he functioning at work, like, 596 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: what is his work life like? 597 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: Seems good, It seems good. It seems like he's doing well. 598 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: Also, just a reminder, we have talked about every single 599 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: one of these things and more. This is what she 600 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: says in the beginning. 601 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: You know, So maybe maybe it has been communicated enough 602 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: where it's like you're just not getting it. 603 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: I can't do this totally within it, right, Yeah, I 604 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: think some of I think, like if I was to 605 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: amend some of my comments before, it seems like she is. 606 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: She has been bringing it up a lot. Yeah, and 607 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: this is just a ranking point. Maybe I wasn't brought 608 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: up in like as director of a way and this 609 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: was like finally the most direct way. But even his 610 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: response to her bringing this up was turning over yep, 611 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: one hundred percent, which I think is like honestly a 612 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: metaphor for what he's been doing the whole relationship. 613 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think I think it got to the 614 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: point where she's like, Okay, now I'll just try to 615 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: fix it for you, and it's like it's at that 616 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: point it's unfair to everyone because now you're trying to 617 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: like force someone to do something, and also it's just 618 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: not going to work for you. 619 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, slivey TOA says, I've been in this situation before. 620 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: You start by asking for help as nicely as possible 621 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: because it's awkward and uncomfortable. Then you straight up tell them. 622 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: Then you exacerate a fight, then you're numb poetic, but 623 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: uh yeah, accurate. That's yeah, yeah, I feel like I'm coming. 624 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: I think, you know, rereading some of the bits from before, 625 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: it feels it feels like just end of the rope 626 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 627 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah's which just makes sense. You know, that's a 628 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: lot to have to deal with, but ideally you don't 629 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: get to the point where you're, you know, on the offensive. 630 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: And I think, like doing what she was doing, I'm 631 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: gonna take We got more stories. We have more stories 632 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: for a Let's get after it. Let's go it. Sam. 633 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's 634 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: three of bits bad from our sponsor. 635 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: A NAP ruined my marriage. I finally snapped snap back 636 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: to reality, snap it on the NAP. I twenty eight female, 637 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: am married to thirty male. I'll probably delete this in 638 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: the morning, but I need to scream into the void. 639 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: I've been married for under a year, but with my 640 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: husband for six years. We have a three month old 641 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: little girl who's fantastic. I'm a first time mom who's 642 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: a stay at home mom, and my husband works from home. 643 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Popcorn Shrimp one on 644 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: one and if you want to submit your own stories, 645 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: go to the r slash. Okay, storytime suburd. So my 646 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: husband's not dumb, just emotionally inept sometimes. I've had a 647 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: lot of resentment build things since I was pregnant. His 648 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: mom tormented me through my pregnancy by talking about miscarriages, stillbirths, 649 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: and saying dead baby to me every time my husband 650 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: wasn't around. What the heck, Oh my god, we gotta 651 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: get a hubby to be like yo, mom, chill, dude, 652 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: that's ouch. That is time out there, that sandwich worthy. 653 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: Oh dear, oh my god. She denied. He sympathized with me, 654 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: but nothing was ever truly done. Since I gave birth. 655 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: My husband's just been clueless. When I was there recovering, 656 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: he would go home and sleep and leave me all 657 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: alone because the couch was uncomfortable. So we wouldn't hang 658 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: out with her on the couch because like, oh baby, 659 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: the couch, that's crazy. I had to call him twenty 660 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: times to get him to wake up and come back 661 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: to the hospital because I was lonely. He wasn't at 662 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: the hospital with you. He was tired. 663 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: Oh god, I gotta take care of himself. You get 664 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: the power of two, you like I only have one? 665 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Then when he left, he was asking me 666 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: to carry things to the car with him. Do you 667 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: not understand how child birth works? 668 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: I mean, like, but babe, you were carrying all this 669 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: extra weight. I mean, I just want to make it 670 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: the same. Yeah. 671 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say, you know, give you in 672 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: your routine, this is not the same. But my dad 673 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: famously started boiling a pot of coffee when my mom 674 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: went into labor with me, and my mom was like, 675 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: get into the car, drive me to the hospital. The 676 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: nurse had to tell him that I shouldn't be carrying anything. 677 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: I just given birth, because I was gonna say, oh 678 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: if this was his hospital another time, but yeah, it 679 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: was right after sheha birth. When we got home, he 680 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 1: complained about his lack of sleep. I was struggling learning 681 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: how to nurse. He was my cheerleader through nursing. I 682 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: have to give him credit there as the first two 683 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: months went. I was consistently bawling about how sleep deprived 684 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: I was, while he was getting eight to ten hours 685 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: of uninterrupted sleep every night. 686 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: I mean, just because you're not good and sleep doesn't 687 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: mean I can't get my zees. 688 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: Golly. It caused a lot of fights because I couldn't 689 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: hear him tell me he was exhausted without having a meltdown. 690 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: Then his mom would come over and they'd leave a 691 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: huge mess for me to clean. On more than one occasion, 692 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: he complained about the basement being messy, so I helped 693 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: him lift things and clean up. It caused me to 694 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: start bleeding heavily, and my doctor told me I shouldn't 695 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: be lifting anything heavy. What does this not understand about 696 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: medical professionals telling you not to do things that cause 697 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: you to bleed? 698 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: Dude, I feel so bad for this guy. He's trying 699 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: to like rearrange his basement and his wife just keep. 700 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: Doing it all alone. Yeah. Now I used to clean 701 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: up blood. No, no, Yeah, it's just so unfair. Yeah, bro, 702 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: he's he's trying to be a good manager, you know, 703 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: and delegate effectively, and his his his subordinates start doing 704 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: their work properly. Once crying. The other one's like bleeding, 705 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: I got a useless team. Oh god, he's a poise, right, 706 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: I tell you that's how he's seeing it. This is 707 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: the point of contention because my husband continuously asked me 708 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: to help him lift heavy things and I couldn't, so 709 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: he would get annoyed. Then he'd complain about it all day. 710 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Now we're at month three and I 711 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 1: think my marriage is over. Oh man, I mean just now, dude. 712 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: It would have been over when you asked her, Like 713 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: if I was a girl, it would have been over 714 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 3: the moment you asked me to take something to the car. 715 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, the old things. What. We've been distant ever since 716 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: the baby arrived, and I haven't wanted to have spicy 717 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: sleep or be affection you. I mean, haven't you just 718 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: been bleeding out? Yeah? I guess this is three months later. Yeah, 719 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: three months later. Three months later, you know, literally she 720 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: goes and she's like, hey, babe, how you doing. He's like, 721 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: it's basically clear he got you got those two boy 722 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: fours out of the way. What did that little guy 723 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: help me out? Or was he just sitting there a 724 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: laund just looking around and shaking and say, oh God. 725 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: So husband has been asking I'm all right a lot 726 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: and I say I'm fine. Boys, what happens when a 727 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: woman says she's fine? Not fine, She's not fine. I 728 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 1: don't know what else to say, but I feel miserable 729 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: in tents up every time he walks in the same 730 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: room as me. Today he was on my case about 731 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: walking our dog. I'm so exhausted from my exclusively my 732 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: front airbag beating, and I don't have the energy to 733 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: walk our dog. I had been up since two thirty 734 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: am with my baby and just couldn't handle anything else 735 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: on my plate. So he whined and moaned about doing it, 736 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: but promised me I could nap. I snapped and remind 737 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: him that I hadn't slept the full eight hours and months. 738 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: He got pissy and stormed off. 739 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 2: Man is doing nothing. This is the worst husband and 740 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: father ever. 741 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't get it. Like when you don't get 742 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: it that you're like terrorizing your wife with lifting two 743 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: by fours and sleep deprivation. Dude. He avoided me the 744 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: entire day and locked himself in his office. Real mature. 745 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: I spent the rest of the day randomly breaking down 746 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: into full blown sobs because I was so tired. Eleven 747 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: PM hits and he hasn't come out of his office. 748 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: So I finally break go get him. He gives me 749 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: the cold shoulder and I just break down. All of 750 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: the lack of support just broke me. I told him 751 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: I hated him. I wish I could go home. I 752 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: even mentioned divorce. I mean, at this point, I feel 753 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: like that is warranted. He's not a partner. 754 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: Breaking breaking point, breaking point, Yeah, like to a ridiculous 755 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: degree if you're. 756 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: Like sleep deprived, And not only is he not like, oh, 757 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: figure something out and watch a baby, he's like locking 758 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: himself in his office. So the only option is basically 759 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: leaving the baby unattended or you continuing to just be 760 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: insanely sleep deprived. 761 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you can properly just go f off yep, 762 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: like like May locking himself away, making her walk the dog, 763 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: and then forcing her to rearrange the basement. 764 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Next up, he's like, uh, hey, I think we 765 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: need a redesign in the in the living room, Can 766 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: we like, could you like move the couch and just like, 767 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: you know a little bit more sure that it looks good? 768 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, you just keep moving a little bit more 769 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: to the left left. Actually, let's go to the ride. 770 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: The pros trying to make it on HGTV over here. 771 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: So he calmed down and I apologized for being selfish. 772 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: When I asked what he did all day, he said 773 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: he napped. Oh, he locked himself in his office. But dude, 774 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: I feel like this is the evil version of my brother. 775 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: He loves to sleep. I feel like the evil Tait 776 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: would do this for sure. Yeah, evil naps are crazy, dude. 777 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: Why it takes such a great thing and destroy it. 778 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: He napped the whole day. Well, I was struggling to 779 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: keep myself standing. He wasn't napping. Oh boy, I broke down. 780 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: I cried and cried. He was very apologetic and showering 781 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: me in sories, and I love you. For the first 782 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: time ever, I couldn't tell him I loved him too. 783 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: Now it's two am, and I can't sleep because I'm 784 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: so distraught. How do we get this woman some sleep? 785 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: We need to figure this out. He's snoring next to 786 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: me and I just hate him. Right now, he's rubbing 787 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: it in her face. Just give him a little whack. Also, 788 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: he slept all day and now he's like knocked out gold, Like, 789 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: does bro have like some sleeping like disorder? 790 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 2: I want, you know, like in like the Freddy Krueger 791 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 2: movies where they like try to keep themselves awake by 792 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 2: like splashing water on their face, like sticking like needles 793 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 2: in their arms. 794 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what she needs to do. We gotta We 795 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: just dropped the two by four from the basement on 796 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: his lap. Yeah. Yeah, they get the work to stay up. 797 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: I want to take my baby and run away. I 798 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: don't want to live her anymore. Being a single mom 799 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: seems easier than dealing with all of this emotional stress 800 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: and to collect. That's how you know. That's that is 801 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: how you know. 802 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: Once you believe that raising the kid alone is better 803 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: than raising the kid with this guy, that's how you 804 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: know it is over. Wow, this guy is a but. 805 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: Yeah good good like test Yeah, like marriage test right, 806 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: their marriage test? Marriage test? Is it? 807 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: Like what what's easier? Well, but like I mean I 808 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: feel like that's like I feel. 809 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: Like maybe logistically, is it logistically easier to like care 810 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: for the baby, do all the stuff together or apart? 811 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: And it seems like I've thought about a. 812 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: Date idea where we baby Angie and I babysit kids 813 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: for an evening, just a se I have. 814 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: An idea for you. You should foster a dog together 815 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: for a day, for a day. Yeah, you can. 816 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: You can take you can take dogs called like happy 817 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 2: Friends or whatever. You can take dogs and foster them 818 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: for a day. Puppies. 819 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: Oh that'd be sick. You could. 820 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you can take them out. Yeah, be 821 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: cute thing. I'm gonna look that up. Sounds fun. 822 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah right this couple years. Actually, actually not, they don't 823 00:39:53,040 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: need God, it's a foster dog take care of. So 824 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: I brought ten of them. Yeah, I love the ball, 825 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: brought the whole little babe. I'm really tired from taking 826 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: it over. I'm gonna go nap, go babe, go walk 827 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: the real qui de no no. Remember they have their 828 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: own dog as well. So she has eleven dogs just 829 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 1: like just like she takes it and they all run 830 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: a different She's also holding the baby because he's not 831 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: watching the baby. He's lapping, she's bleeding. 832 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 4: Fleeing and is like the chair of the cake. She's 833 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 4: moving from the basement. Oh, they don't move the couch. 834 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: Now you have a bunch of sled dogs at your 835 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: disposal and should be. 836 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, we gotta compose myself here. We got we 837 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: got more boys. There's keep imagining insane like three Stooges 838 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: scenarios are here. Okay, So what am I supposed to do? 839 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: I just can't believe I'm ready to leave him all 840 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: because he took a nap. 841 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: I mean, girl, is not just a nap. That is 842 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: the tip of the iceberg. It is so much more. 843 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: This is the most incompetent straw man's scarecrow of a 844 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 2: husband you have. Yeah, man stands in the field. It 845 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: does nothing. I think you gotta I think you gotta 846 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 2: gotta kick him over and leave him. 847 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chad is right with Fury. You should be. Should be. 848 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 3: We ride on. 849 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: When my rizzle says my rizzle, my rizzle, yeah, is 850 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: it mirrors all? I feel like that's what it is. Yeah, 851 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: but I also like my rizzle my Rizzle's fun too. 852 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: Mirrors all. 853 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: I choose your an adventure, Yeah, let us know how 854 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 2: to pronounce your but yeah, I think like I think honestly. 855 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 2: The first thing I would do is if op has 856 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: parents or something in her life, call the parents and 857 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: be like, hey, can I literally go to your house 858 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: and freaking sleep please. 859 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: Yah yeah, yeah, just like watch my kid for like 860 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: if you you know, just like be hanging out, have 861 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: the kid around. 862 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 3: And just like let me sleep, cause this is important 863 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 3: after surgery to you know rest. But surgery and having 864 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 3: a baby's the same thing. So she needs to rest 865 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 3: in order to get herself back. 866 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: It's insane the levels of like he doesn't care respect 867 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: her needs at all. These needs we're not talking about, like, 868 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: oh I need to like go out, you know with 869 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: my girls and I whatever. We're talking like I'm bleeding 870 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: lifting your freaking lumber bro falling asleep. 871 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I think like leaning a 872 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: little bit on parents or family would be good. 873 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we have an update. Oh my god, let's hear it. 874 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: Let's dive into it here. So updates. I fixed the FtM. 875 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: It means first time mom, uh, not be able to 876 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: make I guess that was an abbreviation use. So we talked, well, 877 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: I talked and he listened. I told him I couldn't 878 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: do this anymore and something needed to change immediately or 879 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: I was going back home and I was going to 880 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: take my baby with me. He stared at me, confused, Uh, 881 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:21,959 Speaker 1: whoa I don't go, And then he realized I had 882 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: two bags packed by my dresser ready to leave. Oh wow, 883 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: I finally was able to articulate all the resentment that 884 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: had been built his mom's cruel and careless behavior. I 885 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,439 Speaker 1: forgot even about his crazy month. 886 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: That wow, I forgot to again as a reminder to everyone, 887 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: his mom would say. 888 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: Dead baby, dead baby, dead. 889 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: Baby when he wasn't around two op. While she's pregnant. 890 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: While she's pregnant, she would like, literally the mom was 891 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 2: trying to like manifest freakin' beetlejuice style a miscarriage, and 892 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: he did nothing. That yeah, and this man did nothing, 893 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: is wow? I forgot about that? Is so bad? Yeah, 894 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: it was so bad. 895 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: His mom's cruel and careless behavior. Feeling abandoned at the 896 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: hospital and now at home. How it feels that everything 897 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: falls to me so he can bring a paycheck home. 898 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: I realized after saying all this, I hadn't really told 899 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: him how I was feeling, but just continued to bottle 900 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: it up. He was defensive at first, and I gave 901 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: him one warning that if this conversation was filled with excuses, 902 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm walking out you, sister. So he stopped and truly listened. Okay, 903 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: this is the first thing this guy has done all day. 904 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: But bro has walked three miles in the wrong direction, 905 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: and this is his first step back, don't. I don't 906 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: think it's a step. This is the first time he's 907 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: just stood still. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, he's not 908 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: walking in. 909 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 2: The wrong walking in any direction, but he is he 910 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 2: is maybe preparing to maybe make one right step. 911 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: Ope. He says he was genuinely remorseful. He only said 912 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: sorry once at the end, but he meant it. Then 913 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: he started asking me what I needed him to do. 914 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: We made a plan and I finally feel like I 915 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 1: can breathe a little easier. 916 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay again again, you know, a plan is 917 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: all is great? But who said was it like Winston 918 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 2: Churchill that was like plans or something. 919 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: Something like that, you make a plan and God laughs 920 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: or something? Yeah? Yeah, who is that? Who said that? 921 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't know? Yeah, I don't know who he's saying. 922 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, plans often you know, don't go how 923 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 2: you thought. 924 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: Indeed, what was it? 925 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 3: What the quote is you make a plan God laughs 926 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: a yibbish proverb? 927 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: What Yiddish Yiddish proverb? Yeah? There you go. There it is. 928 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 2: Hey, it's sam og host. We're gonna get back to 929 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: these delectable stories. But here's three minutes of ads from 930 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 2: our sponsors to help support the show. 931 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: So he made a plan, and I finally feel like 932 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: it can breathe a little easier. He has dog walks 933 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 1: handled indefinitely. Mother in law is banned from the house 934 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 1: and to have no contact with me or the baby. 935 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: Once husband's off work. I'm off duty for the day. 936 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm still front air bag feeding because I want to 937 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: do that. Feed with them front airbags. I get a 938 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of fulfillment out of it. And if you saw 939 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: the way that my baby pats my front air bag 940 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: when she nurses, you you would too. Her big hazel 941 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: eyes are like substance, an addictive substance that I can't 942 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: say because of censorship. I'm typing this while soaking in 943 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: a warm bath. I've been promised the weekend to deepcompress 944 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: and sleep until my heart's content. I'll pump instead of 945 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: nurse this weekend, and we have a stash of frozen 946 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: milk he's planning on using. He knows what needs to 947 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: be done her routine, how much to feed her, so 948 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: I know he's capable. I can actually hear him unloading 949 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: the dishwasher right now. It's a miracle. We are planning 950 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: on doing something as a couple one day out of 951 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: each weekend, so I don't feel like just a mom. 952 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: I can be a person too. You're not a mover, 953 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: You're not a dog walker, a dog walker like. 954 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 2: Little baby making machine. We did just hire you on 955 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 2: Rover to just be there. 956 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: We are going to couples counseling and I'm going to 957 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: start individual therapy. He's already in therapy. Well it ain't 958 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: working well. He didn't have a dad who showed him 959 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: what love looked like. He had an adult toddler as 960 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: a father who would throw tantrums and verbally mistreat him 961 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: and his mother. My husband often comments on how my 962 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: dad dropped everything in a nanosecond for me, and how 963 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: he wants to be like that, but he's not. He's 964 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: failing me and his daughter. That was really tough for 965 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: him to hear. 966 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, hey, but hey, direct communication. We 967 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 2: got direct You're saying this is what you're doing. I 968 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 2: got my bags packed. Aggressive, but I think like we 969 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 2: finally got to reach a point you reach a point, 970 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: and sometimes you need your communication maybe to cut through 971 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:39,720 Speaker 2: the noise. 972 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. 973 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 2: Especially if you've if you had this conversation so many times, like. 974 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: And even like I feel like the packed bags is 975 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: like it was a communication tool, but also like, I'm 976 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: literally just exhausted and I'm gonna get sleep. So now 977 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: we can take it day by day if he's actually 978 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: capable of change. I have to wait and see. My 979 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: bags are still packed and by the door. My guess 980 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: I have them there as a reminder to myself that 981 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: leaving is an option at any moment. I please. That 982 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: makes me feel a little bit better. I'm hopeful, but 983 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: not delusional. I know we might not be able to 984 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: come back from this, and that's okay. I have to 985 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: take care of myself. So my little girl has a 986 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: mama who smiles at things besides her. I have an 987 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: appointment scheduled for a postpartum depression screening, and my mom's 988 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 1: planning on visiting the start of next month. That's smart idea. 989 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: My family is ready with their door wide open when 990 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: I choose to come home. Made me cry to hear 991 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: my dad tell me he'll be on the first flight 992 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: when I'm ready so I don't have to fly home alone. 993 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: That's so cute, horrible. Thank you all for letting me 994 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: spill my guts, and we have an update number two. 995 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little hesitant about this plan because usually 996 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 3: when couples havel like big arguments like this guy will change, 997 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 3: the girl will change about a week or two and 998 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 3: then right back at it as if nothing happened. 999 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: It's hard to change. 1000 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, habits are hard to change old habits. Die Hard 1001 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 2: and Winston Churchill said plans are indeed, so the likelihood 1002 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 2: of it going through low. 1003 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do, we are. We all on He's going 1004 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 1: to fail. 1005 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 2: I am, I mean, I am so like I'm I 1006 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 2: love that this story has the possibility, yes, of live 1007 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 2: being with a happily ever after. 1008 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: I love a happy ending, But I'm not hopeful. I'm 1009 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: not I'm not hopeful. 1010 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 2: That you know that this is going to lead to, 1011 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: you know, the places you wanted to you know what. 1012 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to be different. I'm going to be on 1013 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: the side of hope. Today leads a gentleman, and I 1014 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: hope he hasn't earned it, but I'm gonna I'm gonna 1015 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: give it to him for some reason, I'm giving hubby fail. 1016 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 1: John's given Hubby success. 1017 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 3: Let's see, because on one hand he is going to 1018 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 3: therapy trying to be a better person, but the other hand, 1019 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 3: habit's a hearty sang. 1020 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 1: Well, we've got update number two, so let's find act. 1021 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to update, but I've been scared. I 1022 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 1: felt so overwhelmed and haven't ma sure what to write. 1023 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: The post I wrote was me at my lowest. I 1024 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: wish I could take the version of me in time 1025 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: and just hug her. I was broken down. I needed 1026 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: anyone to be real with me. Those comments feel like 1027 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: a slap in the face and way too much to 1028 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,959 Speaker 1: handle all at once, so I needed time to read 1029 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: through and digest it all. Thank you everyone. I was 1030 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: diagnosed with postpartum depression and anxiety shortly after I made 1031 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: my post. To the people who pushed me to talk 1032 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: to my doctor, thank you. My life has improved tenfold 1033 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: after getting proper treatment. I feel like in normal updates, 1034 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: people dive into their lives and the details of what's happened. 1035 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I want to say 1036 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: something that's more important than me in my life, to 1037 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: the moms and their loved ones. If you or anyone 1038 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: you know has just had a baby, check in on them. 1039 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: If you've just had a baby, make sure you have 1040 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: someone who's tuned into you. Although you have brought new 1041 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 1: life into the world and it should be joyous, you 1042 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: are allowed to feel whatever you feel. Please, even if 1043 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 1: you feel fine, prioritize your mental health and wellbeing because 1044 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: your baby depends on you to be healthy so they 1045 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: can be healthy. What you're going through is valid and important, 1046 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: and you need someone to look out for you while 1047 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: you look out for the baby. Someone needs to look 1048 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: out for you with the same love and care. By 1049 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: the way, I want to know how to love and 1050 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: care the best possibly freaking can two thousand knee slapping, 1051 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: brain tickling episodes full of relationship advice. That is, if 1052 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: you go to Spotify, Apple I search Okay, story time, 1053 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: listen to our huge calog of the podcast. It's a 1054 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: good time. But boys, we do have I think a 1055 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: little a little bit of a I can't believe. 1056 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, your message was important, but I want to 1057 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 2: hear the tea. Yes, I want to hear the update. 1058 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: That's important too. 1059 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,919 Speaker 1: Did he follow through? Did he follow through? 1060 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 2: That is the question like op, he doesn't really want 1061 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 2: to talk about it. 1062 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: Oh maybe it's too traumatic. Oh maybe it didn't happen. Well, 1063 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 1: I think we're getting at least a little bit. All right, 1064 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: let's say them a night. As for me, my life 1065 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: is turned around. Taking care of myself. The was what 1066 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: I need. I know. People told me to leave my 1067 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: husband and how horrible he is, and like every other 1068 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: excuse post, you don't understand because you're not living it. 1069 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,479 Speaker 1: I'm happy, safe and healthy, but most importantly, my daughter 1070 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: is thriving. It took a lot of work and it 1071 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: will continue to take a lot more. I love my 1072 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: husband and he has shown through time that he can 1073 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: be reliable and hasn't faltered. Okay, I really thought he 1074 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: would fail and it was expect to get most dace. 1075 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: I thought it too, But John might be right ah ah, 1076 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: but he hasn't. That's right. He actually turned it around, 1077 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: and that feels better than winning the lottery. I guess 1078 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: people can change when they really want to, can't they. 1079 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: I could go on and on, but things are better. 1080 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 1: My daughter's happy and healthy. She's feisty like me, and 1081 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: nothing's going to stop her. She loves her daddy as 1082 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: much as I do, sometimes more and now with a 1083 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: clear head, I can see things are okay because we 1084 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: have and continue to learn how to communicate with one another. 1085 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 1: If I could pass anything on, check on your loved ones. 1086 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't even know how hard they're struggling until 1087 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: you pull the wool from over their eyes. Thank you 1088 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: to everyone posting with the push I needed and some 1089 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: quick notable comments. Commentar asked if Opie's husband apologized. Opie 1090 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: says yes, he has. He continues to and has acknowledged 1091 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: how his selfishness came at my expense in the most 1092 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: vulnerable time in my life. It's a shame that follows 1093 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: him and he asks randomly if I really do forgive him. 1094 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable to see how awful he feels about what happened, 1095 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: because all I wanted to say is it's okay, but 1096 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: we both know it's not and never will be. So 1097 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: it's icky going to live with that. But I also 1098 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: know that it's for the best, which is a pretty 1099 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: powerful thing. It's like, hey, your behavior did was not okay. 1100 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: I can't just say it's okay to it, but hey, 1101 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 1: we're building and growing from here, and hey, it is okay, now, 1102 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 1: it seems and then another commentary, you're letting yourself down 1103 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: by staying as someone else. A downthread said, your rose 1104 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: colored glasses must be glued to your face. I don't 1105 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: know if that's fair. That's a little little much, Opie says, maybe, 1106 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: but I really think so. It's easy to judge. I'm 1107 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,359 Speaker 1: not too interested if people support my choices or not. 1108 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 1: I really only posted this in hopes that if anyone 1109 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: else is struggling with PPD or PPA, this could help 1110 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: push them to seek help. And that's pretty much it. 1111 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Wow, I mean I am. 1112 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 2: I'm happy that it ended well. Yeah, I mean that 1113 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 2: it ended well. I'm still like nervous about the husband, 1114 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,280 Speaker 2: but it does seem like he's been showing some good sprites. 1115 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 1: I feel like at this point, and you know, maybe 1116 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: she was able to like with the proper treatment, like 1117 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: it's easier to give him an excuse because she's just 1118 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 1: feeling better in general, give him a pass. But it 1119 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: seems like from all that she was going to the 1120 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: first one. If he wasn't kind of holding his end 1121 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 1: to the bargain, she'd be more vocal about about it. 1122 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: And she didn't really say anything, ye like, oh, he's 1123 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: not really She said that he's doing well. 1124 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 2: So let us know what you think. Put your answers 1125 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 2: in the comments below. All right, I think that's where 1126 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 2: this episode. 1127 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: Ends, So if you love us, make sure to subscribe 1128 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: We Love You, and see them all 1129 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 2: At