Speaker 1: In the morning, Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in, Steve j
Speaker 1: n V. Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: We got a special guests in the building. Absolutely, Sherry Shephard, Welcome.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling? Congratulations on everything first and for
Speaker 1: thank you so much. How does it feel to have
Speaker 1: your own show and every day have to be there,
Speaker 1: it's all about you and guests, and how does it feel?
Speaker 1: You know, it's surreal knowing that I have to go in.
Speaker 1: It's a level of responsibility I never thought I would
Speaker 1: have because I'm used to for all the stuff that
Speaker 1: I do. Is what Barbara Walters used to do. I
Speaker 1: didn't appreciate her until having my own show. She would
Speaker 1: go to all of the affiliates. Every week. I go
Speaker 1: visit affiliates. I hope babies, I kiss babies, I smile
Speaker 1: at you know, I laugh at jokes that I go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess you didn't told that joke twelve years to everybody.
Speaker 1: I gotta let you know. And so it's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that I'm doing. It's meetings NonStop, and I
Speaker 1: I'm not used to that of being that part of
Speaker 1: because you get the glory and you also get it
Speaker 1: if it if it don't go. So it's like going
Speaker 1: to get rising up to that occasion. But it's good. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, how are you because he's so rude,
Speaker 1: how are you doing. I'm a little for Clint right
Speaker 1: now because I'm so I try to get it together
Speaker 1: because I ran into Angela uh And and Tiffany Cross.
Speaker 1: It is Angela's name. I'm so like embarrassed. I can't
Speaker 1: even like im. So I'm trying to get my groove bag. Man,
Speaker 1: this is a woman like I am such a fan
Speaker 1: of Angela Ry. I love Tiffany Cross. They tell it
Speaker 1: like it is like I'm like super fan. And as
Speaker 1: soon as they walked past me, I walked out the
Speaker 1: door and I said to Angela Ry, Hey, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: what April did you think she was? I just in
Speaker 1: my hand. I was just thinking about April Ry and
Speaker 1: I got facial blindness anyway, I'm horrible with names. I
Speaker 1: have facial blindness, which is called prosopagnosia. So like when
Speaker 1: I look at your face, envy, it's just the face.
Speaker 1: It's the nose, its lips, there's no distinguishing. I did
Speaker 1: not just get an I'm not sure. Well, that's how
Speaker 1: I remember Envy's We were always doing that exactly what.
Speaker 1: I have polyps in my nose that remove the polyps
Speaker 1: so I could breathe better and stop snort. That's too
Speaker 1: that's too much to try to remember to remember, just
Speaker 1: to remember the polyps in his nose. He had to
Speaker 1: get the polyps remember, So if they can't even take
Speaker 1: too long, you're gonna be gone by the time I
Speaker 1: say it works. Envy with the nose jobs, See how
Speaker 1: quick that is? Exactly? Yeah? Se you doing that because
Speaker 1: he loves you so much. I doubt that. Did you
Speaker 1: feel like Wendy's shoes were too big to feel? Well?
Speaker 1: I think so, I think her. I think she we
Speaker 1: didn't even wear the same size shoes. So I don't
Speaker 1: say yes. I think I'm asking a practical way. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: Jesus you were you were you afraid of that in anyway?
Speaker 1: Afraid of that? Damn I'm talking about I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about because I think you start getting afraid when you
Speaker 1: start comparing yourself to other people and you can't. That's
Speaker 1: where you get into trouble. You can't compare yourself to
Speaker 1: other people. Otherwise I would have been terrified when Star
Speaker 1: when I had to take over Star Jones's place on
Speaker 1: the View. And the one thing that I loved is
Speaker 1: Star Jones called me. I was working on thirty Rock
Speaker 1: at the time. Uh, and she called me to congratulate me,
Speaker 1: and she says, don't try to fill my shoes, because
Speaker 1: you will never fill my shoes. And she said, you
Speaker 1: have to go on with your own experience, your own eyes,
Speaker 1: and make these your memories. And she said, so I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you about who to watch out for.
Speaker 1: You have to go in and get the lay of
Speaker 1: the land. And I appreciated that. So me doing what
Speaker 1: I do. I am a stand up comic, I have
Speaker 1: a I know what God called me to do. I
Speaker 1: have a faith. I'm really about a lot of positivity.
Speaker 1: So I knew that's what I do. If I if
Speaker 1: I based my career off trying to compare myself to
Speaker 1: other people, I still be struggling. You speak to Wendy.
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to talk to Wendy When No,
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to talk to you. I
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to talk to you, Charlotte May.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to talk to my Aunteacha Couitsia,
Speaker 1: I know. So there were certain people that I got
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to. It was Oprah Winfrey. Whoopie
Speaker 1: was in Italy, so I didn't get to talk to
Speaker 1: to Whoopie should call me back. It was Robin Roberts,
Speaker 1: um Ellen. I didn't get a chance nobody. You know,
Speaker 1: people don't be having celebrity phone number so they won't
Speaker 1: give it to you. So I didn't get to talk
Speaker 1: to Ellen. So it's very few people that I got
Speaker 1: to talk to. I loved the way you handled it, though,
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I think a statement came out
Speaker 1: with Wendy said she wasn't happy with she wouldn't be
Speaker 1: watching something, And I loved the way you handled it,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I again, I'm not doing it
Speaker 1: for anybody. I know what my assignment is. So if
Speaker 1: somebody and everybody has free choice, it's like, if you want,
Speaker 1: if you want to watch me, watch and see what
Speaker 1: I can bring. If you don't, the beauty of it
Speaker 1: is there's Tamering Hall, there's Jennifer Hudson. If you want
Speaker 1: a sister, there are there are more than one. There
Speaker 1: is more than one black woman. Did you always wanted
Speaker 1: to talk show. Was that something that this is what
Speaker 1: I want? Yeah, I would, Yeah, it was just I
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was a talk show that I wanted
Speaker 1: when I was a little girl and was putting like
Speaker 1: a paper towel in front of every in front of
Speaker 1: my dolls. I just like to talk and I love
Speaker 1: knowing about people. But um, it started as I got
Speaker 1: as I was doing stand up, I was like, I'd
Speaker 1: like it. I'd like a talk show because I was
Speaker 1: looking at stand up comics who did talk shows, and
Speaker 1: stand ups are really great at doing talk shows. They're
Speaker 1: great at being guests on a talk show. And so
Speaker 1: I realized that's what I wanted. And my first pilot
Speaker 1: was in two thousand and four and it went nowhere.
Speaker 1: I did it on the Regis and Kelly said, and
Speaker 1: it just went nowhere because I didn't know who I was.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make people laugh. So if you
Speaker 1: told me to do anything, I would do it. But
Speaker 1: that was before the View. That was way before the view.
Speaker 1: I did the view. I didn't start to View two
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and I was devastated because I'd
Speaker 1: done it on Regents and Kelly and I knew I
Speaker 1: was funny, and I remember the executives walked in and
Speaker 1: it was like, give us all you give on stage,
Speaker 1: that that thing you do, And I was like, what
Speaker 1: do I My voice was I was like, what do
Speaker 1: I do? Because I'll do it? And they were like,
Speaker 1: you know that thing? And I was like I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I was like Lord Jesus, and I was praying.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't ready. I hadn't matured into the dream,
Speaker 1: and so had he given it to me, it would
Speaker 1: have fizzled so fast because I didn't know how it was.
Speaker 1: I'd have sat in front of people going out, what
Speaker 1: am I supposed to say? Now, when I sit in
Speaker 1: front of an audience, I know exactly who I am.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what I'm delivering. I know exactly what
Speaker 1: my mission is. I know exactly when some people go,
Speaker 1: can I come on your show? No, that's not what
Speaker 1: I do. You would be a celebrity caman. He was like,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about something that happened in my life.
Speaker 1: This very serious. You probably would be better with Tamren
Speaker 1: Wow sitting there because she's a journalist, So absolutely do
Speaker 1: you would be better served over here because you know
Speaker 1: Like the thing I love about tamarn is because she's
Speaker 1: a journalist. She's going to dig places that I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna ask you when you do, you
Speaker 1: not to play space because I know my audience is coming.
Speaker 1: They want to feel good, they want laughter. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go into those places. So and I and
Speaker 1: I'm at that place, so I can go No, that
Speaker 1: doesn't work for me. Have you taken a step back
Speaker 1: and like took a deep breath and just reflected on
Speaker 1: your journey like all of that, Like you know, you
Speaker 1: talk about two dollars four to show, didn't going away with? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then you know the view and then you know
Speaker 1: you gotta let go from the view. But then you
Speaker 1: know years later, you know you get a chance to
Speaker 1: fill in from the fell into having your own show.
Speaker 1: Have you like like processed all it? You know, it's
Speaker 1: so funny, Charlemagne, because I see now looking back, sometimes
Speaker 1: God don't show you how it's supposed to work out.
Speaker 1: You just got it even going through it. Trust that
Speaker 1: it's all that scripture, everything works together for your good.
Speaker 1: I did not realize that doing the view would be
Speaker 1: so instrumental in me understanding how to do my show,
Speaker 1: like I don't get caught up in social media and comments.
Speaker 1: And because at the end of the day, I still
Speaker 1: got to pay Jeffrey's therapist his school, and I realize
Speaker 1: y'all not pay if y'all just want to talk about
Speaker 1: a fact. I ain't got no damn hips and you
Speaker 1: ain't cute, and and you just stow this that doesn't
Speaker 1: serve me. And that's from being on the view because
Speaker 1: every time somebody got on me, I was going to
Speaker 1: Barbara and Bill Getty saying, can I just get on
Speaker 1: the air and clarify and apologize? I Barbara goes, For
Speaker 1: God's sake, if we apologize for everything, this show would
Speaker 1: be called the apology, and it's not. You want to apologize,
Speaker 1: go somewhere else and do it. And that's where I learned,
Speaker 1: bit you better be tough everybody. You can't be letting
Speaker 1: everything affect you. So that was a learning ground. Doing
Speaker 1: dish Nation was a learning ground because I learned too.
Speaker 1: I'm in a studio by myself, brat and head cracked.
Speaker 1: They're all in Atlanta, so I have to learn to
Speaker 1: talk to that prompter like I'm looking at like I'm
Speaker 1: writing in the room with other people. That serves me
Speaker 1: when I'm sitting on that chair because I can't see
Speaker 1: the audience, the cameras right in front of me. So yes,
Speaker 1: now I see how all these little things doing stand up.
Speaker 1: I have to stand on stage and headline for ninety
Speaker 1: minutes and keep you entertained, and somebody might heckle. I
Speaker 1: gotta think something quick. I don't have no you have
Speaker 1: some Okay, I'm talking about being married and divorce, but
Speaker 1: I gotta stop and I have to handle you. That
Speaker 1: serves me well sitting on a couch, and it serves
Speaker 1: me well when I you. People are wearing a mask.
Speaker 1: I can't see if you laughing or not, but I
Speaker 1: have to know that I know walking out there, they'll
Speaker 1: share you funny, this is, this is You've been prepared
Speaker 1: for this. So yes, now I see where got all
Speaker 1: these little things that I had to do? Even when
Speaker 1: I bombed, you know, and Dio Hughley told me get
Speaker 1: back on stage. You gotta get back. So when I
Speaker 1: when things don't work segments that I want to try
Speaker 1: and they may not work, I go, okay, fail, you
Speaker 1: ain't no big, Let's get back up and try something.
Speaker 1: Do you remember your worst show as a comedian? And
Speaker 1: I asked old comedians that do you remember your worst show?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It was Mark Curry's manager. I don't
Speaker 1: remember his manager's name. He and Jamie had the same manager,
Speaker 1: some King, Marcus King. They used to have a comedy
Speaker 1: show contest in Oakland, California, and me and my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: she's now a big publicist at ABC free Form. Because
Speaker 1: she didn't stay in the game, we pretty much hitched
Speaker 1: a ride because this ain't for the week standup comedy.
Speaker 1: We hitched a ride. Don't do this girls, if you
Speaker 1: hear me, but we hitched a ride all the way
Speaker 1: to Oakland, California, from LA from LA. We hitch goes.
Speaker 1: We didn't have no money, We've struggling, and we went
Speaker 1: and did this contest because the deaf jam people were
Speaker 1: there staying Lathan. Everybody was there watching these comments, the
Speaker 1: comics and I have worked on my act and the
Speaker 1: first round knocked out the first freaking round because they
Speaker 1: put me last out to follow all the dirty comics
Speaker 1: and I was clean. I don't even curse. Remember, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, she was Lester Barry was del huge. Lee
Speaker 1: did Jamie go up. Might have been Jamie because yeah,
Speaker 1: it probably was Jamie because he didn't have nothing in
Speaker 1: except pimples on his face. He didn't have nothing. Um
Speaker 1: it was it was Evette Brown. She used to play
Speaker 1: in dell on Moitia. She and um, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Cat wasn't out then, we didn't know him. Might have
Speaker 1: been was jab there. I know Mark Curry was there.
Speaker 1: It's all the ones that you see now that are that,
Speaker 1: and then there's a lot of them that you don't see.
Speaker 1: All of the Oakland comics were there, and they put me.
Speaker 1: It was twenty four comics. I was twenty three, So
Speaker 1: me coming out gonna hey everybody, how you doing. They
Speaker 1: was like boo, bitch, get out to stay. And then
Speaker 1: all the comics when you bomb, they don't want to
Speaker 1: be around you. They don't even want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: It's like you got some kind of disease. And I
Speaker 1: cried and I have no money to get home, and
Speaker 1: um we had to hitch back and then I it
Speaker 1: was a horrible and my girlfriend made it the next round.
Speaker 1: She made it the next round and she had to
Speaker 1: come too. She I was like, well, you're gonna come back.
Speaker 1: She was like, noa, I made it, so I had
Speaker 1: to go back home by myself, made you continue on
Speaker 1: because at that point most people have been like, you
Speaker 1: know what, maybe comedies not for me. It was all
Speaker 1: I had. It was like I was illegal secretary. My
Speaker 1: mom had diabetes and she was not taking care of herself,
Speaker 1: so she was sick. I had an as sister. It
Speaker 1: was on you know, on drugs. Look at my fami,
Speaker 1: my fami. My home was just my ex boy from
Speaker 1: he had gone to prison, like he was writing let
Speaker 1: us all the time time he was gonna kill me.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like, I really do need a
Speaker 1: lifetime movie. I'm on si Hona teller to place mat
Speaker 1: But no, no, I just it was all I had
Speaker 1: to be able to get on stage in the darkest
Speaker 1: times and half the time out of half a place
Speaker 1: to live, staying on people's couches. That was the only
Speaker 1: time I felt like somebody or you know, just being
Speaker 1: on stage, you know, and I could make people laugh
Speaker 1: at the stuff that I was going through. So I
Speaker 1: got the journal from when I was on stage. It
Speaker 1: has tears dried up on the on the notebook. So
Speaker 1: that's why I got on safe. I got A two
Speaker 1: pu's both of your careers. When you do stand up
Speaker 1: in that moment and you said you was number twenty
Speaker 1: four and everybody before you was dirty. That was an
Speaker 1: era where you had to be like shocking, right, like
Speaker 1: you had to have like some edge to you. Just
Speaker 1: exactly how did you keep yourself from being that? Because
Speaker 1: I couldn't be that, Like I like, if you Sheryl
Speaker 1: Underwood was on there, and if you better seeing Sheryl
Speaker 1: on stage like Sherlin turned out, She's still Joe Tory.
Speaker 1: Joe Tory was on the thing. You're following Joe Tory.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So uh was t K doing it
Speaker 1: to them? I'm from the valley, so I'm talking like this.
Speaker 1: My voice was so how you guys do? Um? I
Speaker 1: couldn't be I tried to go up on stage one
Speaker 1: time at the Birdland West and Long Beach and I
Speaker 1: tried Scrunch show was up at the Now more names
Speaker 1: are coming to me, but um, I tried to be Sheryl,
Speaker 1: but it's not authentic. And I remember going up on
Speaker 1: stage and I tried to do I had this Heckla
Speaker 1: line prepared if they said something, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: be like I'll stab you, Ugga, I'll stab And I
Speaker 1: tried it and he was laughing because then it don't
Speaker 1: hardly look sure, looked like she could stab you, Sherry Shepherd, No, sir,
Speaker 1: So it didn't work. Me trying to be somebody who
Speaker 1: I wasn't, and I learned to just you know, DL
Speaker 1: said you gotta get back up on the stage. Jamie
Speaker 1: was very encouraging vette everybody, and I just realized it's
Speaker 1: just you gotta keep getting back up. You gotta keep
Speaker 1: showing up and you eventually get better. If you keep
Speaker 1: doing it, you get better. So you have to you
Speaker 1: gotta bomb. You gotta fail otherwise you really don't appreciate
Speaker 1: it when you get on stage. And now I can
Speaker 1: get on stage it, don't you know a heckler, You're
Speaker 1: not scaring me because you're not making the money I'm making.
Speaker 1: You probably want to do what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1: But you're scared, so you're gonna scream it on stage
Speaker 1: where it's dark. But if I put a microphone in
Speaker 1: front of your face, you ain't really got too much
Speaker 1: to say. And everybody in this room came to see
Speaker 1: me and they really want you gone. So when I
Speaker 1: coming out. I got their confidence. They know. So the
Speaker 1: second part of that is, I guess you applied that
Speaker 1: to the View as well. Because Barbara Walters is the
Speaker 1: bar I was a messenger in the View. I wasn't
Speaker 1: confidence at all, okay, because Barbara, like Barbara was ratchet,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love I loved every way.
Speaker 1: She questions, did you feel like you had to be
Speaker 1: that when you were on the View, Yeah, I felt
Speaker 1: like I had to. Like I got on this show,
Speaker 1: Charlotte Mage Andy Murphy wasn't one and told me I
Speaker 1: was doing a show. I was doing a movie called
Speaker 1: Who's Your Caddy with Big Boy. I'm talking in times
Speaker 1: with Terry Crews. I'm just trying to make people laugh.
Speaker 1: And they called me to guest host, and I guest
Speaker 1: hosted and they liked me. And then Star was like,
Speaker 1: when I go on, when I go on the road,
Speaker 1: I want to Sherry to fill in for me. I
Speaker 1: was terrified to meet Star. Probably called her by the
Speaker 1: wrong name, um stay sick because she was a big lawyer,
Speaker 1: and Enjoy said, I like Sherry when I go on
Speaker 1: the road and do kids called so he kept calling me.
Speaker 1: But I never wanted to do that show because I
Speaker 1: knew they were talking about politics and debating. I was
Speaker 1: as Jehovah's witness. I didn't do no debating on it,
Speaker 1: talk back to people who were older than me, and um,
Speaker 1: everybody kept saying, do it because it's gonna change your life.
Speaker 1: My best friend John Murray, who was my EP on
Speaker 1: my show, he said, Sherry, doing the view will change
Speaker 1: your life, and I promise you. And I did it reluctantly.
Speaker 1: And here the first week I said, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the Earth was round the flat, step right in it.
Speaker 1: And I did. And by the way, I do know
Speaker 1: that the Earth is round. I was so nervous. When
Speaker 1: I get nervous, I can't remember names. I could, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't even hear them ask me the question. You
Speaker 1: were ahead of your time. This is more flat Earth
Speaker 1: is now now they aren't coming about the whoopworks everybody
Speaker 1: who said Earth is flat. Um. But to sit next
Speaker 1: to this woman who was just like, she don't smile,
Speaker 1: she don't you know. And then I'm next to Whoopee
Speaker 1: who's looking to be like, bitch, you don't know nothing,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm just like So it was very It
Speaker 1: was very hard for me. How did you find yourself
Speaker 1: on that show? Because you know Barbara would ask anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and whoopee is already established. And that was the year
Speaker 1: we started doing a lot of politics because that's the
Speaker 1: year Obama was running, and it was a lot of
Speaker 1: race stuff coming up. And I had to learn. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of failures and it was a lot
Speaker 1: of falls. I don't like callm failures. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of faults on the view and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I had to sit and look at Bill Maher saying
Speaker 1: they could do something with the stupid stick to me,
Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly called me a pinhead. You gave me Donkey
Speaker 1: of the day like this was everything, Howard. I don't
Speaker 1: remember what you gave it. No, you said I don't
Speaker 1: have no butt or something. It was a Tasmanian devil,
Speaker 1: I remember. I know. But now you're now you you've involved,
Speaker 1: Now you have therapy in your life, and you give
Speaker 1: the gods that we all served your respectful. You love
Speaker 1: people's energy. You do like now you're you're change, You've
Speaker 1: evolved you and you weren't not all that when you
Speaker 1: gave me Donkey in the day and talked about it.
Speaker 1: I was listening to y'all did show. Yeah, me and
Speaker 1: my son listened to the show. He was like, Mommy
Speaker 1: was shawmmate, don't like y'all. I don't know. Well, when
Speaker 1: you give somebody donkey to day, Charlotte mage people when
Speaker 1: you on the other Saturday asked stephen A. Smith, when
Speaker 1: you're on up sad that people you know, you're thinking
Speaker 1: of people. You think people don't like you. But it
Speaker 1: is all of that I had. That's how I learned, Sherry.
Speaker 1: You can't take in everybody else's energy that doesn't serve you.
Speaker 1: I know that that's wanna pay attention to social media.
Speaker 1: I wish I could let these young people know get
Speaker 1: beyond social media and clapping back and you arguing with
Speaker 1: this one. It don't serve you. It is a waste
Speaker 1: of energy. But I didn't know that then, But I learned.
Speaker 1: I learned from a woman going, this ain't the day
Speaker 1: an apology show. Go out there, stand by what you said,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep it moving because basically, once the
Speaker 1: next news cycle comes, they're gonna forget what you said. No,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to ask you about that, because
Speaker 1: that's a good point, right. Thank you for coming to
Speaker 1: But after you gave you don't get you to show
Speaker 1: I may actually you apologize. You was like, no, you're not.
Speaker 1: Then you said you were sorry. So the evolution I
Speaker 1: could see it happened. And even then so with that, right,
Speaker 1: like we've seen Barbara Walters do apology shows and like
Speaker 1: everybody sees all this old content of Barbara and they're
Speaker 1: using the N word and asking people about that sexuality.
Speaker 1: So if somebody came to you right now, I was like,
Speaker 1: Barbara Walters is racist. You know these kids are they
Speaker 1: they see what would you say to them? I would say,
Speaker 1: you'd have to you you only saw a clip, because
Speaker 1: everything everybody operates in little three second clips. I would
Speaker 1: say you have to work with this woman because because
Speaker 1: the reason why you may be on the air is
Speaker 1: because of Barbara Walters. And so the same woman is
Speaker 1: the same woman who put two black women on the
Speaker 1: air when no, you had never seen that before. There
Speaker 1: had never been two black women on a talk show
Speaker 1: and Barbara Walters ABC did not want me and she
Speaker 1: fought for me to be on there. So if you
Speaker 1: saying a racist wants another two black women on her
Speaker 1: show and she's a racist, that that don't that don't
Speaker 1: even go together. Because she felt like I had something
Speaker 1: to say. And when people would talk about she, she
Speaker 1: defended me on how return Now you know, so a
Speaker 1: woman who's doing that, And she would always say to me,
Speaker 1: I believe in you. You can do it. Just freaking
Speaker 1: read a book and defend what. You can't rely on
Speaker 1: your pastor what your pastor says all the time. Read
Speaker 1: a book. Now. I love talking politics, but I had
Speaker 1: to go through I didn't know about politics, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know what you know different things, but I do now.
Speaker 1: So falling is not bad. It's a way you look
Speaker 1: at it. You get back up, you keep showing up,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get better. And then there's other blessing.
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned stephen A. Smith. He was on your show.
Speaker 1: Oh he stepped in. Oh my gosh. I was trying
Speaker 1: to let him know. On the couch he was a
Speaker 1: conversation about super Bowl. Oh my god, and then he
Speaker 1: went jumped out the window and just said out of
Speaker 1: nowhere for no reason. Rihanna is no, oh my god,
Speaker 1: why you know? But the thing about it is like
Speaker 1: I feel like stephen A. A lot of people I
Speaker 1: had discern that's what he does, that's what he gets
Speaker 1: paid for. But there's a way that men be talking.
Speaker 1: You know, y'all talk, you can get rudo. But when
Speaker 1: you go in front of an audience full of black women,
Speaker 1: it's a day in time. Were tired of being compared
Speaker 1: to the next black woman. Well, black women are feeling like,
Speaker 1: don't nobody protect us like you. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: triggers and you and I feel like somebody on his
Speaker 1: team should have been briefing him, going, this is a
Speaker 1: female talk show, stephen A. This isn't because on his show,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they tell the women, if y'all want to
Speaker 1: play on our field, you gotta take you gotta be
Speaker 1: able to play like a man. But I wish somebody
Speaker 1: would have said, you're coming on an all female show.
Speaker 1: They love Sherry, these are women, so there's a you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta course correct a little bit. And I
Speaker 1: don't think so. And I think it threw him, you know,
Speaker 1: because Steven got he got that swag. He sat back
Speaker 1: and did his tie and I was like, oh trouble
Speaker 1: and you you coming on with the swag because they
Speaker 1: was loving Steven, they were loving him, and he did
Speaker 1: everything that he did. He does it on his show,
Speaker 1: but she ain't no Beyonce, it's said he does that.
Speaker 1: That crowd was not and he wasn't reading the room
Speaker 1: like yeah, wait a minute, wait a minute. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it this and I'm gonna give her that,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm looking at him going, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to use the N word right on the air, going, boy,
Speaker 1: you are, you are stepping in it and this ain't
Speaker 1: gonna and it ain't gonna lie on just my show.
Speaker 1: You may think you be thinking this the Little Sherry show.
Speaker 1: This suck about to get out. I tried. I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute, we're trying to He
Speaker 1: wasn't going with me, and no we're not comparing, Like
Speaker 1: what was the point, Like it wasn't even a discussion.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, because this is what Steve n does.
Speaker 1: He just you know, he causes, he does controversy and
Speaker 1: he it's in his DNA to go yeah, but and
Speaker 1: this is how people talk. We've had this, you know,
Speaker 1: when you with your friends, you taught who's better. I
Speaker 1: loved it when Katie Perry came on and Missy Elliott
Speaker 1: stole it you know, we have those discussions, but you
Speaker 1: gotta know how to read your room. Katie and Missy
Speaker 1: is different because yes we want. Yeah, I'm paying no
Speaker 1: attention to Katie. Yeah I want. I'm just saying the
Speaker 1: feeling I got with Missy exploded on that stage is
Speaker 1: why I watch set through Katie Perry's set. It was
Speaker 1: Missy Elliott. So there's a way that you talk. There's
Speaker 1: things that I will not say on my show that
Speaker 1: because I know that's not my audience. And I learned
Speaker 1: that from the view John had to call it. It
Speaker 1: was one time I was defending Sarah Palin with everything
Speaker 1: I had. I was because she had a special needs child.
Speaker 1: So I was like, this is a woman with a
Speaker 1: special need said and John was like, black people hate you.
Speaker 1: Stop it. It's certain things. There's your inside voice, there's Joe.
Speaker 1: So I will never be that person who says everything
Speaker 1: that's on my mind. But why can't we have nuance?
Speaker 1: I understand what John saying, but you should be able
Speaker 1: to say, hey, I can relate because she has a
Speaker 1: special need child. But also I don't, I mean I
Speaker 1: like her politics? Why because I wasn't articulate like that
Speaker 1: at that time I am now yeah, like because we
Speaker 1: had a whole discussion backstage because I do feel like
Speaker 1: I don't like that so many people jumped on Stephen
Speaker 1: because it was an opinion. He loves both women. He
Speaker 1: really does love both women. He just he just felt,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta come up to where Beyonce is
Speaker 1: re renos that she got that competition within herself. Um,
Speaker 1: he just didn't read the room. And I felt. I
Speaker 1: came in and I said, I want to say, this
Speaker 1: was unfair to Stephen a smith. He should have been
Speaker 1: ba And John said, you have to you have to
Speaker 1: do are you falling on the sword with Stephen? Because
Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna get the backlash. There's a
Speaker 1: way you can articulate this, Sherry, because we gotta remember
Speaker 1: the theme of the show is you're being funny, you're light,
Speaker 1: So you can't come on, you know, wagging your finger people.
Speaker 1: Because what I don't like is that nobody is allowed
Speaker 1: to have an opinion and say anything without people going
Speaker 1: to take him off the air and canceling. So we
Speaker 1: worked it through. It took us about twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1: We worked it through. Of Okay, why I put a
Speaker 1: joke in here, I could do it, okay, so to
Speaker 1: be having the navy, you know, I could say this
Speaker 1: and I so that it's palatable for everybody. And I
Speaker 1: still said the same thing, and I still put in
Speaker 1: my message up. I don't like us being at a
Speaker 1: place where we can't say our opinion. So that's what
Speaker 1: I know how to do that now, really apologize in
Speaker 1: the parking lot, right, because he apologized in the car
Speaker 1: because I think it was just shell shot too. And
Speaker 1: you know, because you know you don't and also you
Speaker 1: just don't realize how big this. The people in today
Speaker 1: we get triggered and that affects you. But and that's
Speaker 1: why I said, please go buy his book because he
Speaker 1: does say some really great things in his book about
Speaker 1: you know, about his relationship with his father, his mother,
Speaker 1: how instrument and I still have women going I don't
Speaker 1: give it because the sisters didn't teach him nothing, and
Speaker 1: as mama didn't. I mean, I have friends who are
Speaker 1: really angry. And he didn't say what right if you say,
Speaker 1: if y'all have a discussion about live performers, and you
Speaker 1: say Rihanna not a better live performer than Beyonce, but
Speaker 1: all you said, was Rihanna ain't no Beyonce, What does
Speaker 1: that even mean? I think it's just him saying, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, y'all, you know your uncle left it and Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: no matter what you say, your uncle like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know he ain't gonna the way he run. And
Speaker 1: I think and also I think that Stephen Asmith didn't
Speaker 1: realize we black women, we are just feeling like we're
Speaker 1: not protected. You know, it's not like you have to
Speaker 1: with with on first take, you are brutally taking down
Speaker 1: thirty NFL teams. You got a lot of comparison, well
Speaker 1: black women at this at this level performing at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. It's three of them. One got in trouble,
Speaker 1: a nipple got shown, she got thrown under the bus,
Speaker 1: and her career was gone for a minute. Janet Jackson,
Speaker 1: you got Beyonce, you got Rihanna. You just have it
Speaker 1: like it's not a lot. There's not a lot of us,
Speaker 1: so to be trying to it does look like you're
Speaker 1: pitting us against And that's why I think you have
Speaker 1: to have women on your team sometimes to go let
Speaker 1: me come in here and tell you something. So I
Speaker 1: don't think that went through Black women and with them
Speaker 1: was black women when they and they turned quick, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. And then you also you got to be half.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of fourteen year olds coming after you.
Speaker 1: And you don't realize the power of fourteen year olds
Speaker 1: putting me teams all. You can't even get to the
Speaker 1: good comments because they're fourteen year olds. Ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: to do. I don't argue what to be high. I
Speaker 1: don't even say these Nikki re red Beyonce. The worst
Speaker 1: they said to me when I did when I was
Speaker 1: filling in, and I think I said one thing. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even nothing bad, and somebody put on a post
Speaker 1: they said, don't even go there because we'll take you down.
Speaker 1: It was like the mafia heads to me. I showed John,
Speaker 1: I was saying, they they comment, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this dig on these barbs. I want
Speaker 1: to salute John John because I was told that you
Speaker 1: you you told that bout murky. I'm not doing this
Speaker 1: show of John, And I thought that was so just
Speaker 1: doping on the absolutely yeah for so long. Um, John
Speaker 1: is like the wonder kind of creativity. So a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff that we do is John's idea We've
Speaker 1: been on this journey twenty or more years, and he
Speaker 1: is smart and a lot of people he knows. He
Speaker 1: has a lot of connections in the business, and not
Speaker 1: connections where you do. For me, I do few relationships,
Speaker 1: is what I should say, A lot of He got
Speaker 1: that Janet Jackson thing happening. That was John Murray who
Speaker 1: did this. So I couldn't give credit to the show
Speaker 1: because it was John. He you know people that come
Speaker 1: on our show, John makes a phone call. We can't
Speaker 1: get clearance. John makes a phone call. So he has relationships.
Speaker 1: He knows talk shows like the back of his hand.
Speaker 1: He helped me on the view articulate what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say. I knew what I wanted to say, but
Speaker 1: he was like, you can't. You don't have enough time
Speaker 1: to say that. Whoopie's gonna say this to you. Joey's
Speaker 1: gonna interrupt. You got to say it succinctly and quickly.
Speaker 1: And John helped me with that, And so I knew
Speaker 1: that this dream was not only my dream, it was
Speaker 1: John Murray's dream too, because he's the only black man
Speaker 1: with the executive producer title and the power. And I said,
Speaker 1: I didn't just want him to be executive producer. He
Speaker 1: had to have the power. That's what I had to
Speaker 1: fight for. So he and he's great and the producers
Speaker 1: love him, and you know, so I trust him because
Speaker 1: I can't fight all of the battles and I can't
Speaker 1: be up on the other side in the office and
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, I gotta it's just sitting on that couch.
Speaker 1: It's a mental thing I gotta do. So having him
Speaker 1: with me and being able to look at him and
Speaker 1: he says things, I don't know what I would I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done the show without him. Now, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't would have walked away. That says a lot about you, though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because this is your dream
Speaker 1: to do this show. And I'm sure that you know,
Speaker 1: let's get more more experienced DP and you're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is who I wants. Yeah, he knows he's got
Speaker 1: the We got the same vision. When we stand behind
Speaker 1: that door, he grabs my hand. We pray for the
Speaker 1: audience who is watching on TV. We pray for the
Speaker 1: audience who is sitting there that they're gonna that they
Speaker 1: see that side of God, the laughter, the love that
Speaker 1: they feel better than when they came because we're going
Speaker 1: through so much. I don't do politics for a reason.
Speaker 1: I don't do heavy stuff because I feel like you
Speaker 1: can get that from You can get it from when
Speaker 1: Tiffany Cross comes right back on the air. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to get it from Tiffany. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get it from Angela. You're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to get it from Rachel Manou or Fox if you
Speaker 1: watch it. But for me, I want you to have
Speaker 1: a respite from all. I want you to be able
Speaker 1: to laugh. And John is so clear, So when people
Speaker 1: come to me and go you should do this, I
Speaker 1: want He's the one that takes all of the bullets
Speaker 1: and stands in front of me and shields me so
Speaker 1: that I can go out. He's the one that says,
Speaker 1: don't bother Sherry with this because it messes up with
Speaker 1: her mind and it's hard to produce her. So he
Speaker 1: knows me so well. Now, you talked about how difficult
Speaker 1: it was dating before the last time you were a pair.
Speaker 1: Hasn't gotten any easier as your DMS flooded. How is
Speaker 1: dating that? Yeah, they're still fluttered with people who ain't
Speaker 1: got that side tooth and they're missing the finger and
Speaker 1: they still in their mama's basement. I still get those
Speaker 1: um but you know what it is. I remember I
Speaker 1: remember sitting talk with the comedian Rodney Perry and he
Speaker 1: told me, he was like, you know, you in your
Speaker 1: fifties and y'all mouth, and you don't want to be
Speaker 1: and this and it's gonna be hard and to win
Speaker 1: the closing. And I remember I remember laughing, going, but
Speaker 1: it only, it's only I'm only gonna be with one man.
Speaker 1: There's somebody out here who's gonna love my mouth? Who's going?
Speaker 1: And that sound horrible? Look. I was like, Sherry, this
Speaker 1: whole show. My father is like, really she trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of this whole She's trying to ask this
Speaker 1: whole interview. PU by the way, smiles smiles. We've been
Speaker 1: together with ten years. I'm telling I don't I like,
Speaker 1: I like longevity in my life. But no, I meant like,
Speaker 1: they're gonna like what I say. They're not gonna be insecure.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna and it's only one, it ain't thirteen
Speaker 1: of them. And I literally when and I started dating
Speaker 1: more because I would date Envy. We would go out
Speaker 1: on a date. I want to marry you. I'm writing,
Speaker 1: you know, Sherry envy with us and hearts. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: how it was because I was in this religion that
Speaker 1: taught you you don't know, Charlotte Manna, you gotta get married,
Speaker 1: get married. You gotta get married if you want to
Speaker 1: have sex. We already had that show about the second husband.
Speaker 1: That don't work at all. If you horny, don't get mad,
Speaker 1: don't get married. Even when I feel like, damn, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta like go. I don't know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say when I get to Heaven to day, like they
Speaker 1: played my positives and negatives. I just know it didn't
Speaker 1: work for me being horned and doing a marital bliss.
Speaker 1: We had less X. We got married and I still
Speaker 1: but no. But that's where I came from. So I
Speaker 1: went to a dating coach and she said, you gotta
Speaker 1: go out with different people. It don't make you no hole.
Speaker 1: It just you find out what you like, what you don't,
Speaker 1: how you can appreciate things. It's conversation. You gotta learn
Speaker 1: how to have conversation without making the curly cues and
Speaker 1: putting their last name on it. You gotta learn how
Speaker 1: to go out and if they don't call you, you
Speaker 1: ain't texting trying to be cute, you know, and and
Speaker 1: doing a little hintson. So I started just dating. I
Speaker 1: dated somebody I met on Instagram. Really, he was like,
Speaker 1: I am a sheriff. I work in Atlanta. Do you
Speaker 1: date regular guys? He was a sheriff And I said,
Speaker 1: are you a killer? Are you a serial killer? He
Speaker 1: said no. I was like, okay, let's meet. So I
Speaker 1: went to Atlanta to do something with Kim Whitley. I
Speaker 1: had three dates in one day. I had a breakfast
Speaker 1: date with the sheriff I had. I had another date
Speaker 1: in the afternoon skating, and I had a dinner date.
Speaker 1: That was the most fun for a year, just dating
Speaker 1: different people. And it made it made me say I
Speaker 1: had a date while somebody ghosted me. So I had
Speaker 1: a date with somebody all he wanted. Every time he called,
Speaker 1: he's like, look all the pennies you got on It's Sunday,
Speaker 1: It's the Lord's Day. Can we talks on Tuesday? He
Speaker 1: wasn't there. No. We went out and had a great time.
Speaker 1: He picked me up, had a beam in Mercedes. It
Speaker 1: was great. It was wonderful. He got but so many
Speaker 1: people recognized us or me, and I don't think he
Speaker 1: knew how to deal with that. You know, I went
Speaker 1: to the bathroom and they followed me to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: and you know it's he and he just was like,
Speaker 1: that ain't what I want. I dated somebody who was
Speaker 1: a big writer in Hollywood and he said to me
Speaker 1: he was great, and he said, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to be sharing my shine with you. But I appreciated
Speaker 1: it because I'm like, then, we ain't got to worry
Speaker 1: about it. He said, we're not going to red carpet
Speaker 1: I want. I wanted to be. I don't want to
Speaker 1: share it with you. Well, you saved me a lot
Speaker 1: of work. Guys like him need to go to the
Speaker 1: derby because that sound like a bunch of insecuritis insecurities,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I'm not governa waste
Speaker 1: my energy trying to convince you that you need because
Speaker 1: you show me who you are to the sheriff. The sheriff,
Speaker 1: Oh and the sheriff. I gonna say he was great,
Speaker 1: but I felt bad because he wanted to take me
Speaker 1: to this one restaurant in Atlanta and it was not open,
Speaker 1: but I saw the Old Lady Gang was right next
Speaker 1: door and it wasn't open, and I said, well, let's
Speaker 1: go here. I know Candy and he goes, no, it's
Speaker 1: not open, and you know, you gotta get reservations. And
Speaker 1: I'm going, I don't know who you don't like, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to play that car and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know Candy. So at the same time, I'm texting Candy, going, Candy,
Speaker 1: we had the Old Lady Gang and Candy's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell him. But even before Candy did something, the
Speaker 1: waitress recognized me, so she was like, oh, yeah, all
Speaker 1: them thirty people, I'm gonna open up and let you'all in.
Speaker 1: So you don't want to say I can do this.
Speaker 1: This is what I can do. And we sat there
Speaker 1: and it was just so many people because in Atlanta
Speaker 1: was she was a church group. It was the Girl's Trim,
Speaker 1: Miss Sherry, and it's always we hate to bother you,
Speaker 1: but can I get Can I get a big shriff?
Speaker 1: You don't, man. He was getting so tired of that,
Speaker 1: and I felt bad, but I can't and I would
Speaker 1: say no, no, I'm not gonna take any pictures. And
Speaker 1: then we just ran. In my conversation, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: what kind of gun you got? Wow, that's a big gun.
Speaker 1: Just they have bullets. And I was and I was like,
Speaker 1: what do you do? Oh? You take the men death?
Speaker 1: Like he never asked what I did or anything. And
Speaker 1: I'm I'm making jokes and he was just you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, and then he got we got in the struggling.
Speaker 1: Then he took me all over. He showed me and
Speaker 1: I hate I'm diabetic, but I was trying to You know,
Speaker 1: that's not sexy when you say the man on the day,
Speaker 1: I'm diabetic, so I can't eat. I can't eat this
Speaker 1: and mess with my blood and sugar. You know you
Speaker 1: I take ment for him, and that's not sexy. So
Speaker 1: I didn't tell him I was diabetic and I ate pancakes.
Speaker 1: He was like in his forties, now, y'all diabetic discussion age.
Speaker 1: I know, but that it was the first dake, like
Speaker 1: you tell a man that on your third day. Man
Speaker 1: got a joke. He said that I'm not dating no
Speaker 1: young girls because I need to be with a woman
Speaker 1: who can identify the sign of the stroke. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what it is. But you don't want to be talking
Speaker 1: about signs of a stroke on the first date, so
Speaker 1: I want I was trying to appear to be fun
Speaker 1: loving and you know, and I smiled alive show him
Speaker 1: I had a sense of humor. So I was eating pancakes,
Speaker 1: which raised my blood sugar. So he wanted to take
Speaker 1: me on a tour of Atlanta, and I kept falling
Speaker 1: you not all yeah, I don't know why you fain diabetes.
Speaker 1: I didn't want you know what he's saying. He goes,
Speaker 1: are you a Narco left ticket? Oh this is going
Speaker 1: nowhere fast. He was like, you ken't wake up, wake up?
Speaker 1: And I was like, and I ain't eating too many
Speaker 1: because it was good. I ain't had pancakes like nine years,
Speaker 1: and it was so good. And I was following the
Speaker 1: sleep and he was like, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: I gotta go home and I gotta get I gotta
Speaker 1: take this map foreman, I need brotea, like, look at you, Jesus,
Speaker 1: And he was like, why are you keep falling to sleep?
Speaker 1: And I was just like, that was your opening because
Speaker 1: I'm diabetic, and oh yeah, because that's so sexy. Ibody
Speaker 1: just want to tell him about the dog a magnesia
Speaker 1: that I gotta put on my cash. Charlie Horse, so
Speaker 1: you don't want me to give you no sugar? That
Speaker 1: didn't run through my mind, Charles Mane, Great dating is great?
Speaker 1: Now dating is great. All these people you weren't sleeping with? Right, No?
Speaker 1: And see that's what I'd be trying to say about
Speaker 1: Lorie Harvey because any time Lord Harvey gets spotted out
Speaker 1: with somebody, folks like, oh man, she must be sleeping
Speaker 1: all these people. What I love about Lorie Harvey, Laurie Harvey,
Speaker 1: don't tell you nothing. No she doing. Laurie Harvey is
Speaker 1: Lurid Harvey, moving in silence. You know she'll post the pictures.
Speaker 1: They will post the picture. You don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with Lorie Harvey. All you knowing that the one
Speaker 1: thing you got with Lurid Harvey is baby hair. You
Speaker 1: could be sure baby hair. And I think you know what?
Speaker 1: And I love Laurie Harvey because I'm like we are
Speaker 1: as older people, we you know that that we weren't
Speaker 1: allowed to do that date multiple people and say it's
Speaker 1: not working out. That's what men did. I love it
Speaker 1: that this is a young one and who's just like
Speaker 1: I know who I am. Yes, everybody. I know y'all
Speaker 1: all like Michael B. Jordan, but it didn't work for me,
Speaker 1: and I'm walking away now. You get you know, damnson
Speaker 1: interests like shit. You go and have fun because once
Speaker 1: you settle down and that belly get big and you
Speaker 1: start getting them indentations on your booty. Because that baby
Speaker 1: just taking everything from you. It's a whole different story.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the season of your life and keep your mouth
Speaker 1: because she don't be telling nobody what she's doing. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on Lorie Harvey's house. I
Speaker 1: know one thing, Lorie Harvey, if you try to steal
Speaker 1: a car, she'll beat your ass. You see that video
Speaker 1: when they try to steal Loris. So you gotta ride
Speaker 1: a down right there. You just gotta be the right
Speaker 1: one to get that ride of down you go. You know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you too, you know, I remember
Speaker 1: you started the show and like it's a great time
Speaker 1: in your life, right your dream, Yeah, accomplished, but then
Speaker 1: you also lost a great friend and David David arnold man.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you couldn't show that on TV. So
Speaker 1: I owe that, like emotionally for you devastating, and it's
Speaker 1: still devastating right now because David A. Arnold, and if
Speaker 1: you don't know him, god freaking look him up, was
Speaker 1: just on the cusp. I know David from the beginning
Speaker 1: when he was came to LA and to see somebody
Speaker 1: on the cusp of this, of everything that he ever
Speaker 1: dreamed of happening. I was his first major talk show.
Speaker 1: He had his outfit hanging on the closet. We had
Speaker 1: talked all the time, and so you know, he was
Speaker 1: just I saw David fail and bombed so many times
Speaker 1: and re and course, correct and redo, and he got
Speaker 1: on this family literally and he credits me for this.
Speaker 1: We were on the plane with Janet Jackson going to
Speaker 1: Essence and her baby was screaming like crazy and he
Speaker 1: was getting so irritated because she was going up and
Speaker 1: down the aisle, no nanny trying to quiet him up,
Speaker 1: and she we were talking and he was so mad
Speaker 1: that I didn't introduce him to Jenna, because David Arnold
Speaker 1: had an ego like nobody's business. And he made a
Speaker 1: video and it was so funny, and I said, David,
Speaker 1: get back to making those videos about you, about your family,
Speaker 1: and he would go God damn. And I said, keep
Speaker 1: doing that, and I was reposting in it, and his
Speaker 1: numbers were going up. Then more people started reposting, and
Speaker 1: that's how people knew him. And so it just because
Speaker 1: he said I don't want to write. He was an
Speaker 1: amazing writer. I want to be an actor and it
Speaker 1: was happening for him. So to have lost him so early,
Speaker 1: that's the only time a question. God. It was like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. He loved his family so much. Somebody
Speaker 1: came to David another big comic, Uh, Corey's good It
Speaker 1: was Corey Holco. It was Corey Corey Hoko wanted to
Speaker 1: fight David Arnold at the laugh Factory and David goes,
Speaker 1: I'm not fighting you. I have a mortgage to pay.
Speaker 1: I don't fight anymore, you know, And it was funny
Speaker 1: seeing me. He was like, I'm not from the hood,
Speaker 1: and it was like, that was David. And I wish
Speaker 1: that the world really would have been able. He was
Speaker 1: working with Kevin Hart and Lena Wait, he had he
Speaker 1: had three series that were about to go into production,
Speaker 1: plus his own, and so I just feel bad that
Speaker 1: the world didn't get to see what David Arnold would
Speaker 1: have been bringing the virus is remorse like guilt because
Speaker 1: your your dream is happening. Yeah, your guy was on
Speaker 1: the cusp, but you know you transition. Um, it wasn't
Speaker 1: that survivor's remorse because I know my path was different
Speaker 1: from David's. I just wish that more like David would
Speaker 1: have gotten what I got. You know, David would have
Speaker 1: gotten a success that I was able to get. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get into the survivor's remorse, And why why
Speaker 1: me and not them? We all have our own path.
Speaker 1: And if you stopped looking at well, why me? And
Speaker 1: how come they got it and not on I'm just
Speaker 1: as good, then you're not paying attention to the path
Speaker 1: that God got you on, because we all got a
Speaker 1: purpose and we all gotta you know. So why do
Speaker 1: I have a talk show versus the person who is
Speaker 1: much better than me and they don't have a talk show?
Speaker 1: I don't know, But that's a lot of energy I'm
Speaker 1: wasting on that. Why do I not? You know, how
Speaker 1: come I don't have my father got dementia? How come
Speaker 1: your father don't have dementia? I don't know. It's just
Speaker 1: what I have to deal with. So it's just it's
Speaker 1: like where you're gonna spend your energy, especially as we
Speaker 1: get older, Like I just don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: time for where's my energy going and if it's if
Speaker 1: it's not serving man, if it's not positive, and if
Speaker 1: it's not pushing me forward, then I don't have time
Speaker 1: to engage. Is that the answer you received when you
Speaker 1: when you question God about that situation? It was silence.
Speaker 1: But like moving to New York, I got a clear answer.
Speaker 1: I did not want to come to New York to
Speaker 1: do the show once staying there, like all my friends
Speaker 1: are in there, like my pack that I hang with.
Speaker 1: And you know, you always got that person who talks
Speaker 1: to guy who got the answer, and she said, God
Speaker 1: said to me that New York is not for you,
Speaker 1: It is for your son. He has asked Burghers that
Speaker 1: it's for Jeffrey to find his independence. That is where
Speaker 1: so I said, okay, he, oh my gosh, he takes
Speaker 1: it uber by himself. He has his own key. He
Speaker 1: then lost five of them. I'll be like, oh, if
Speaker 1: somebody break into this damn Brownstone, Jeffrey, I'm a kid,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the first one. But he lets himself in.
Speaker 1: He took. I let him take the train to go
Speaker 1: to the Mets game, and I prayed the whole time
Speaker 1: the train. He won with his friends, but they all
Speaker 1: got special needs. All of them got special needs. And
Speaker 1: I was just like Lord and he was like Sherry.
Speaker 1: I got him. I cried the whole time I was texting.
Speaker 1: And then he said, Mom, we got in a celebrity section.
Speaker 1: What is no I pay for nosebleed section two? What
Speaker 1: is you doing down that? He said? I told him
Speaker 1: you was my mama. Stop using my name, boy mama,
Speaker 1: but you can't do that because I look, he's seventeen.
Speaker 1: I gotta get this guardianship over him. This is my
Speaker 1: biggest fear. Some girl he gonna tell her I'm a mama,
Speaker 1: and some girl gonna look at my son and be like, okay,
Speaker 1: come on over. Okay, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to do in your in your windows because Jeffy told
Speaker 1: me how to talk about him. No more. He still
Speaker 1: is very whole, He is very pure. He ain't had that. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid one one woman that's got a lot of
Speaker 1: street smarts will take a look at my he give
Speaker 1: you flowers, you know, I don't think he's gonna tell me.
Speaker 1: This is my biggest fear. Charlemagne. And I will call
Speaker 1: my son and some woman pick up the phone and
Speaker 1: I say, where is my son? And she goes, Miss Shepherd,
Speaker 1: he don't want to talk to you. You can talk
Speaker 1: to me, bitch. What what? I will go bust somebody
Speaker 1: in their mouth, I swear to Gosh, and out of
Speaker 1: my biggest farences, she goes, he's moving in with me
Speaker 1: because you know some of these women who do that mess.
Speaker 1: He moving in with me. He don't want him. He
Speaker 1: is eighteen, and no, you cannot talk to him. And
Speaker 1: I will be like, oh n see nash him. Will
Speaker 1: y'all got to give me out of jail because I
Speaker 1: don't busted a woman up. And I supposed to say,
Speaker 1: because I gotta talk show im all looking at me
Speaker 1: like this. This is not the days. We have discussed
Speaker 1: what she was supposed to be talking about, and this
Speaker 1: was not on the list. But I swear to Gosh,
Speaker 1: my biggest fear, I believe you see if you if
Speaker 1: you're going on stage and stab you niggas now you now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm saying I bust you in the
Speaker 1: mouth that. I respect that. I believe you when you
Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, I got Now, I'm not shooting. I got,
Speaker 1: I got jail nails. That the UV is talking they're
Speaker 1: gonna give you kids and putting them on the train.
Speaker 1: Them a little young biddies on that train where nothing closed.
Speaker 1: He's maybe on this train. I take to train all
Speaker 1: the time. I don't like that. I don't like you
Speaker 1: on the train. Man, you got money? Why are you
Speaker 1: on the train? I agree with you, thank you, ny
Speaker 1: you and I she is forbidding to take the train.
Speaker 1: They're at twenty million people are more to take the
Speaker 1: train every day. Okay, but first of all, I don't
Speaker 1: get on the train looking like this with hair down
Speaker 1: to my ass. You're not cherry cheer because I get
Speaker 1: on the train. If I take this wig off, I
Speaker 1: got corn rolls, I look like Queen Latifa and set
Speaker 1: it off. Okay, let's go there first. Then you get
Speaker 1: on the train. For y'all who think you're not supposed to,
Speaker 1: you get on the train envy and everybody looking at
Speaker 1: their cell phones. Not one person is looking up. I
Speaker 1: didn't know there was nine different Haitian languages on the train.
Speaker 1: The people ain't watching the Sherry show. There's so many
Speaker 1: different languages people be speaking. I could be on that
Speaker 1: train butt naked, and that one old lady, a Dominican
Speaker 1: lady will recognize me, and that one the lady. You know,
Speaker 1: nobody recognizes me on the train. I don't wear big
Speaker 1: I don't call attention to myself. Now, if me and
Speaker 1: Niasy Nash got on the train her freaking Cleveland, just
Speaker 1: down to her knees, they gonna know that's Nisy Nash.
Speaker 1: I don't get on Sherry y Rov get on the train.
Speaker 1: This is yeah, they're gonna recognize Sharyl At these people
Speaker 1: get on the train. I ain't. Don't get on the
Speaker 1: train like that. First of all, I get on the train,
Speaker 1: I'm wrapped up, I got my hat on, I got'm
Speaker 1: covered up, I got a raddy coat on, sweats on.
Speaker 1: I don't look like Sherry Shepherd because it gets me
Speaker 1: there quickly. The dream. No, if you If I get
Speaker 1: on the lift to go see my trainer over in
Speaker 1: the village, it takes thirty five minutes, literally is twenty
Speaker 1: on the train. And sometimes I don't. Sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: want to sit in the back of the uber and
Speaker 1: the man be talking to me, and I got to
Speaker 1: hear the radio and he talking to his wife. And
Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to three car seats. I told the
Speaker 1: lift drive today, how many kid you got? I didn't
Speaker 1: have to way to put my stulf because the's so
Speaker 1: many car seats in the car. I want to get
Speaker 1: on the train, I get on the tray. I wrapped
Speaker 1: my arm so tightly around that rail. If you try
Speaker 1: to push me on the train, you're gonna be having
Speaker 1: my arm in your hands. I'm like I I it
Speaker 1: carries me around. I don't care that you don't something
Speaker 1: what I don't need something. When you work something, you
Speaker 1: gotta protect it. I don't take the train at night.
Speaker 1: I take it so when I take the pictures, there's
Speaker 1: nobody there. It looks like it said night. It's usually
Speaker 1: in the morning when I get to him working out.
Speaker 1: I don't take it all the time. I have a
Speaker 1: driver that takes me back and forth to work, so
Speaker 1: I have a driver for that. And then it's like
Speaker 1: it's usually on a Saturday. And then I have to
Speaker 1: teach my son how to ride the train because he
Speaker 1: thinks that he my son said to me the other day,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want an assist it. You
Speaker 1: will never have an assistant. And they said, you get
Speaker 1: an assistant. No, your mama got an assistant. He was like,
Speaker 1: when I get he's looking at apartments because he said
Speaker 1: when he ain't seen he moving out, he wants to
Speaker 1: go look at loft apartments. No, you don't get a
Speaker 1: loft apartment. Your mama get a loft apartment. So I
Speaker 1: still have to teach Jeffrey on the weekends how to
Speaker 1: ride the train because he's got to learn to be independent. Me.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to get them from Queens. And
Speaker 1: I don't even know they gonna recognize you, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, Amy went the New Nose. I
Speaker 1: get on the train, they gonna know you. Then you're
Speaker 1: gonna mess up my thing. Ry order them like that's
Speaker 1: Octavia Spencer. They gonna like. Then it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna mess up my vibe. So I
Speaker 1: don't take it all the time because I took it.
Speaker 1: I took it. We went to see Uh, the Collaboration
Speaker 1: with Jeremy Poe, and it was you know when you
Speaker 1: go to Broadway, it's so crowded. The lists, it would
Speaker 1: take them too long, so it's I'm gonna take the train.
Speaker 1: What I forgot was I got a bright pink coat on,
Speaker 1: I'm dressed up. I got the wig down to my butt.
Speaker 1: I did take the train that was the wrong and
Speaker 1: it got dark and they dropped me off at the
Speaker 1: wrong stop, and I looked around. I said, I don't
Speaker 1: live in it. I'm not. I don't live in a project,
Speaker 1: so I know I'm in the wrong. I'm in the
Speaker 1: wrong space. And here's the thing I was because I
Speaker 1: got off at the wrong so I didn't have a
Speaker 1: reading glasses on, so I thought I was on the
Speaker 1: D train, but I was on the B train, And
Speaker 1: so I have my Google Maps, and that's the wrong
Speaker 1: thing to be doing walking around with your phone. And
Speaker 1: I walked up to this street and then I said, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's the it's core the errow going the other way.
Speaker 1: So I walked back the other way and this girl
Speaker 1: goes I liked that coat, and I was like, oh, shoo, okay,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I ain't fought in so long
Speaker 1: when I'm living in Chicago, I'm about to fight this girl.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. She recognized my coat before she
Speaker 1: recognized me. And then but then I was like oh,
Speaker 1: and I kept going and then the dudes came out
Speaker 1: the projects and it was it was like, hey, miss
Speaker 1: ladies all left for me. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: am in the area. I gotta talk show. That's that's
Speaker 1: you know. Now they've been like that's that's all left
Speaker 1: for me, Mama, that all left for me? And I
Speaker 1: was like, Hi, how are you? And I kept walking.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm lost. I am locked. Okay, where's
Speaker 1: the subway station? Now? That not good? Was you in
Speaker 1: the Bronx somewhere near that gone? Well? Check out the
Speaker 1: Sherry showing. We're nominated for ACP Major for Sherry and
Speaker 1: won for my podcast two Funny Mamas and Kim Willie's
Speaker 1: our second nomination. We won last year, so that's a
Speaker 1: second domination I got. I want to end me written
Speaker 1: down on my mirror everywhere, but I wanted to, So
Speaker 1: go vote at NAACP Image Awards dot net. Please it's
Speaker 1: a little hard y'all got to do the work to
Speaker 1: get to where we are, but don't do the work.
Speaker 1: Please share it more accolades so she can get even
Speaker 1: more money. Even though he's already millionaire because we gotta
Speaker 1: get her off this train now. Ex husbands and yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I sure am Jesus, when is that up? Jeffrey still seventeen? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: Are you counting down the days? I am count down
Speaker 1: the days? So yes, So don't get off my Wallet's
Speaker 1: party on the show. Yeah we should now, I don't
Speaker 1: want to poke a sleeping bear. They've been leaving me alone. Well,
Speaker 1: it's Sherry Shepherd. It's the Breakfast Club. Thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us so much, Thank y'all for having I ain't
Speaker 1: having no y'all. It's the polyps. You had the polyps.
Speaker 1: You need the polyps, and you had to clear the
Speaker 1: polyps out. You see a lot to take exactly. It's
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good morning you you