WEBVTT - Sherri Shepherd On Finding Her Voice, Wendy Williams, Barbara Walters Advice, Dating + More 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.160 In the morning, Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in, Steve j 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.160 n V. Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:13.520 We got a special guests in the building. Absolutely, Sherry Shephard, Welcome. 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.000 How are you feeling? Congratulations on everything first and for 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.919 thank you so much. How does it feel to have 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.720 your own show and every day have to be there, 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.439 it's all about you and guests, and how does it feel? 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.040 You know, it's surreal knowing that I have to go in. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.400 It's a level of responsibility I never thought I would 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.159 have because I'm used to for all the stuff that 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.360 I do. Is what Barbara Walters used to do. I 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.160 didn't appreciate her until having my own show. She would 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:43.960 go to all of the affiliates. Every week. I go 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.040 visit affiliates. I hope babies, I kiss babies, I smile 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.320 at you know, I laugh at jokes that I go, Okay, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.240 I guess you didn't told that joke twelve years to everybody. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.080 I gotta let you know. And so it's a lot 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:00.040 of stuff that I'm doing. It's meetings NonStop, and I 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.440 I'm not used to that of being that part of 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.880 because you get the glory and you also get it 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.880 if it if it don't go. So it's like going 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.800 to get rising up to that occasion. But it's good. Well, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.600 first of all, how are you because he's so rude, 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.479 how are you doing. I'm a little for Clint right 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.120 now because I'm so I try to get it together 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.600 because I ran into Angela uh And and Tiffany Cross. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:28.800 It is Angela's name. I'm so like embarrassed. I can't 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.520 even like im. So I'm trying to get my groove bag. Man, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.240 this is a woman like I am such a fan 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.080 of Angela Ry. I love Tiffany Cross. They tell it 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.840 like it is like I'm like super fan. And as 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.160 soon as they walked past me, I walked out the 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:50.760 door and I said to Angela Ry, Hey, oh my gosh, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.960 what April did you think she was? I just in 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:58.760 my hand. I was just thinking about April Ry and 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.280 I got facial blindness anyway, I'm horrible with names. I 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.440 have facial blindness, which is called prosopagnosia. So like when 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.680 I look at your face, envy, it's just the face. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.040 It's the nose, its lips, there's no distinguishing. I did 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:16.240 not just get an I'm not sure. Well, that's how 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:24.239 I remember Envy's We were always doing that exactly what. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.840 I have polyps in my nose that remove the polyps 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.720 so I could breathe better and stop snort. That's too 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.880 that's too much to try to remember to remember, just 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.760 to remember the polyps in his nose. He had to 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.040 get the polyps remember, So if they can't even take 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.600 too long, you're gonna be gone by the time I 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.880 say it works. Envy with the nose jobs, See how 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.120 quick that is? Exactly? Yeah? Se you doing that because 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:50.520 he loves you so much. I doubt that. Did you 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.120 feel like Wendy's shoes were too big to feel? Well? 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.400 I think so, I think her. I think she we 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.239 didn't even wear the same size shoes. So I don't 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:09.720 say yes. I think I'm asking a practical way. Yeah, yes, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.440 Jesus you were you were you afraid of that in anyway? 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.280 Afraid of that? Damn I'm talking about I'm not talking 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:23.600 about because I think you start getting afraid when you 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.919 start comparing yourself to other people and you can't. That's 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.359 where you get into trouble. You can't compare yourself to 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.839 other people. Otherwise I would have been terrified when Star 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.160 when I had to take over Star Jones's place on 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.240 the View. And the one thing that I loved is 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.200 Star Jones called me. I was working on thirty Rock 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.960 at the time. Uh, and she called me to congratulate me, 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.800 and she says, don't try to fill my shoes, because 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.200 you will never fill my shoes. And she said, you 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.160 have to go on with your own experience, your own eyes, 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.880 and make these your memories. And she said, so I'm 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:54.800 not gonna tell you about who to watch out for. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.640 You have to go in and get the lay of 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.640 the land. And I appreciated that. So me doing what 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.040 I do. I am a stand up comic, I have 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.640 a I know what God called me to do. I 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.160 have a faith. I'm really about a lot of positivity. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.520 So I knew that's what I do. If I if 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.400 I based my career off trying to compare myself to 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.960 other people, I still be struggling. You speak to Wendy. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.080 Did you get a chance to talk to Wendy When No, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.720 I didn't get a chance to talk to you. I 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.320 didn't get a chance to talk to you, Charlotte May. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.080 I didn't get a chance to talk to my Aunteacha Couitsia, 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.720 I know. So there were certain people that I got 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.280 a chance to talk to. It was Oprah Winfrey. Whoopie 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:36.680 was in Italy, so I didn't get to talk to 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.800 to Whoopie should call me back. It was Robin Roberts, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.839 um Ellen. I didn't get a chance nobody. You know, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.000 people don't be having celebrity phone number so they won't 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.520 give it to you. So I didn't get to talk 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.839 to Ellen. So it's very few people that I got 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.680 to talk to. I loved the way you handled it, though, 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.240 I guess. I mean, I think a statement came out 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.359 with Wendy said she wasn't happy with she wouldn't be 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.320 watching something, And I loved the way you handled it, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.520 you know. I mean, I again, I'm not doing it 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.320 for anybody. I know what my assignment is. So if 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.080 somebody and everybody has free choice, it's like, if you want, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.839 if you want to watch me, watch and see what 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.920 I can bring. If you don't, the beauty of it 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:20.000 is there's Tamering Hall, there's Jennifer Hudson. If you want 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.479 a sister, there are there are more than one. There 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.240 is more than one black woman. Did you always wanted 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.800 to talk show. Was that something that this is what 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.720 I want? Yeah, I would, Yeah, it was just I 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.400 didn't realize it was a talk show that I wanted 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.359 when I was a little girl and was putting like 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.240 a paper towel in front of every in front of 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.560 my dolls. I just like to talk and I love 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.839 knowing about people. But um, it started as I got 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.680 as I was doing stand up, I was like, I'd 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.680 like it. I'd like a talk show because I was 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.039 looking at stand up comics who did talk shows, and 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.760 stand ups are really great at doing talk shows. They're 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.280 great at being guests on a talk show. And so 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.599 I realized that's what I wanted. And my first pilot 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.799 was in two thousand and four and it went nowhere. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.080 I did it on the Regis and Kelly said, and 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.919 it just went nowhere because I didn't know who I was. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:05.479 I just wanted to make people laugh. So if you 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.719 told me to do anything, I would do it. But 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.040 that was before the View. That was way before the view. 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:12.400 I did the view. I didn't start to View two 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.760 two thousand and seven, and I was devastated because I'd 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.320 done it on Regents and Kelly and I knew I 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.320 was funny, and I remember the executives walked in and 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.479 it was like, give us all you give on stage, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.080 that that thing you do, And I was like, what 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.680 do I My voice was I was like, what do 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.760 I do? Because I'll do it? And they were like, 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.800 you know that thing? And I was like I don't know, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.960 and I was like Lord Jesus, and I was praying. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.160 But I wasn't ready. I hadn't matured into the dream, 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.840 and so had he given it to me, it would 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.160 have fizzled so fast because I didn't know how it was. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.200 I'd have sat in front of people going out, what 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.680 am I supposed to say? Now, when I sit in 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.680 front of an audience, I know exactly who I am. 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.920 I know exactly what I'm delivering. I know exactly what 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.120 my mission is. I know exactly when some people go, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:52.560 can I come on your show? No, that's not what 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.960 I do. You would be a celebrity caman. He was like, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.839 I want to talk about something that happened in my life. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.839 This very serious. You probably would be better with Tamren 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.880 Wow sitting there because she's a journalist, So absolutely do 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.320 you would be better served over here because you know 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.120 Like the thing I love about tamarn is because she's 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.160 a journalist. She's going to dig places that I'm not 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.880 gonna go. I'm gonna ask you when you do, you 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.400 not to play space because I know my audience is coming. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.840 They want to feel good, they want laughter. So I'm 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.680 not gonna go into those places. So and I and 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.360 I'm at that place, so I can go No, that 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.080 doesn't work for me. Have you taken a step back 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.080 and like took a deep breath and just reflected on 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:32.600 your journey like all of that, Like you know, you 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.320 talk about two dollars four to show, didn't going away with? Yeah? 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.600 And then you know the view and then you know 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.040 you gotta let go from the view. But then you 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.120 know years later, you know you get a chance to 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.600 fill in from the fell into having your own show. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.600 Have you like like processed all it? You know, it's 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.800 so funny, Charlemagne, because I see now looking back, sometimes 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.400 God don't show you how it's supposed to work out. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.480 You just got it even going through it. Trust that 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.520 it's all that scripture, everything works together for your good. 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.480 I did not realize that doing the view would be 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.000 so instrumental in me understanding how to do my show, 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.840 like I don't get caught up in social media and comments. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.160 And because at the end of the day, I still 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.800 got to pay Jeffrey's therapist his school, and I realize 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:16.480 y'all not pay if y'all just want to talk about 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.280 a fact. I ain't got no damn hips and you 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.400 ain't cute, and and you just stow this that doesn't 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.720 serve me. And that's from being on the view because 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.640 every time somebody got on me, I was going to 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.040 Barbara and Bill Getty saying, can I just get on 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.760 the air and clarify and apologize? I Barbara goes, For 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.440 God's sake, if we apologize for everything, this show would 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.319 be called the apology, and it's not. You want to apologize, 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.560 go somewhere else and do it. And that's where I learned, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.120 bit you better be tough everybody. You can't be letting 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.560 everything affect you. So that was a learning ground. Doing 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.800 dish Nation was a learning ground because I learned too. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.319 I'm in a studio by myself, brat and head cracked. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.160 They're all in Atlanta, so I have to learn to 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:59.120 talk to that prompter like I'm looking at like I'm 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.080 writing in the room with other people. That serves me 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.080 when I'm sitting on that chair because I can't see 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.280 the audience, the cameras right in front of me. So yes, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.960 now I see how all these little things doing stand up. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.520 I have to stand on stage and headline for ninety 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:18.240 minutes and keep you entertained, and somebody might heckle. I 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:27.679 gotta think something quick. I don't have no you have 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:34.400 some Okay, I'm talking about being married and divorce, but 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.040 I gotta stop and I have to handle you. That 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.080 serves me well sitting on a couch, and it serves 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.199 me well when I you. People are wearing a mask. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.120 I can't see if you laughing or not, but I 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.240 have to know that I know walking out there, they'll 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.760 share you funny, this is, this is You've been prepared 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.360 for this. So yes, now I see where got all 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.559 these little things that I had to do? Even when 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.160 I bombed, you know, and Dio Hughley told me get 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.160 back on stage. You gotta get back. So when I 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.880 when things don't work segments that I want to try 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.920 and they may not work, I go, okay, fail, you 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.760 ain't no big, Let's get back up and try something. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.400 Do you remember your worst show as a comedian? And 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.640 I asked old comedians that do you remember your worst show? 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:14.160 Oh my gosh. It was Mark Curry's manager. I don't 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.920 remember his manager's name. He and Jamie had the same manager, 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.080 some King, Marcus King. They used to have a comedy 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.360 show contest in Oakland, California, and me and my girlfriend, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.840 she's now a big publicist at ABC free Form. Because 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.199 she didn't stay in the game, we pretty much hitched 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.480 a ride because this ain't for the week standup comedy. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.240 We hitched a ride. Don't do this girls, if you 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.160 hear me, but we hitched a ride all the way 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.480 to Oakland, California, from LA from LA. We hitch goes. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.800 We didn't have no money, We've struggling, and we went 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.360 and did this contest because the deaf jam people were 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.760 there staying Lathan. Everybody was there watching these comments, the 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.280 comics and I have worked on my act and the 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.640 first round knocked out the first freaking round because they 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.760 put me last out to follow all the dirty comics 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.520 and I was clean. I don't even curse. Remember, Oh 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.280 my gosh, she was Lester Barry was del huge. Lee 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.439 did Jamie go up. Might have been Jamie because yeah, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.280 it probably was Jamie because he didn't have nothing in 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.920 except pimples on his face. He didn't have nothing. Um 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.080 it was it was Evette Brown. She used to play 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.760 in dell on Moitia. She and um, oh my gosh. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.959 Cat wasn't out then, we didn't know him. Might have 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.640 been was jab there. I know Mark Curry was there. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.760 It's all the ones that you see now that are that, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.960 and then there's a lot of them that you don't see. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.240 All of the Oakland comics were there, and they put me. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.640 It was twenty four comics. I was twenty three, So 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.439 me coming out gonna hey everybody, how you doing. They 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.280 was like boo, bitch, get out to stay. And then 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.040 all the comics when you bomb, they don't want to 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.199 be around you. They don't even want to talk to you. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.679 It's like you got some kind of disease. And I 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.640 cried and I have no money to get home, and 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.679 um we had to hitch back and then I it 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.800 was a horrible and my girlfriend made it the next round. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.199 She made it the next round and she had to 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.079 come too. She I was like, well, you're gonna come back. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:59.880 She was like, noa, I made it, so I had 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:02.320 to go back home by myself, made you continue on 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:03.760 because at that point most people have been like, you 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.880 know what, maybe comedies not for me. It was all 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.440 I had. It was like I was illegal secretary. My 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.720 mom had diabetes and she was not taking care of herself, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.640 so she was sick. I had an as sister. It 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.000 was on you know, on drugs. Look at my fami, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.679 my fami. My home was just my ex boy from 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.080 he had gone to prison, like he was writing let 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.679 us all the time time he was gonna kill me. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:27.199 I mean, it was like, I really do need a 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.400 lifetime movie. I'm on si Hona teller to place mat 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.320 But no, no, I just it was all I had 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.440 to be able to get on stage in the darkest 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.840 times and half the time out of half a place 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.040 to live, staying on people's couches. That was the only 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.959 time I felt like somebody or you know, just being 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.600 on stage, you know, and I could make people laugh 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:49.920 at the stuff that I was going through. So I 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.920 got the journal from when I was on stage. It 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:57.400 has tears dried up on the on the notebook. So 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.160 that's why I got on safe. I got A two 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.679 pu's both of your careers. When you do stand up 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.199 in that moment and you said you was number twenty 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.439 four and everybody before you was dirty. That was an 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.920 era where you had to be like shocking, right, like 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.840 you had to have like some edge to you. Just 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.040 exactly how did you keep yourself from being that? Because 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.840 I couldn't be that, Like I like, if you Sheryl 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.600 Underwood was on there, and if you better seeing Sheryl 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.720 on stage like Sherlin turned out, She's still Joe Tory. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.200 Joe Tory was on the thing. You're following Joe Tory. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.560 Oh my gosh. So uh was t K doing it 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:39.599 to them? I'm from the valley, so I'm talking like this. 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.920 My voice was so how you guys do? Um? I 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.000 couldn't be I tried to go up on stage one 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.400 time at the Birdland West and Long Beach and I 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.720 tried Scrunch show was up at the Now more names 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.840 are coming to me, but um, I tried to be Sheryl, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.880 but it's not authentic. And I remember going up on 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.920 stage and I tried to do I had this Heckla 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.480 line prepared if they said something, and I was gonna 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.400 be like I'll stab you, Ugga, I'll stab And I 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.040 tried it and he was laughing because then it don't 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.640 hardly look sure, looked like she could stab you, Sherry Shepherd, No, sir, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.760 So it didn't work. Me trying to be somebody who 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:18.439 I wasn't, and I learned to just you know, DL 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.520 said you gotta get back up on the stage. Jamie 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.120 was very encouraging vette everybody, and I just realized it's 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.920 just you gotta keep getting back up. You gotta keep 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.440 showing up and you eventually get better. If you keep 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.200 doing it, you get better. So you have to you 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.680 gotta bomb. You gotta fail otherwise you really don't appreciate 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.320 it when you get on stage. And now I can 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.800 get on stage it, don't you know a heckler, You're 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.360 not scaring me because you're not making the money I'm making. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.920 You probably want to do what I'm doing right now. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.680 But you're scared, so you're gonna scream it on stage 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.800 where it's dark. But if I put a microphone in 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.080 front of your face, you ain't really got too much 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.520 to say. And everybody in this room came to see 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.840 me and they really want you gone. So when I 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.800 coming out. I got their confidence. They know. So the 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.600 second part of that is, I guess you applied that 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.680 to the View as well. Because Barbara Walters is the 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.000 bar I was a messenger in the View. I wasn't 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.800 confidence at all, okay, because Barbara, like Barbara was ratchet, 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.920 you know what I mean. I love I loved every way. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.320 She questions, did you feel like you had to be 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.720 that when you were on the View, Yeah, I felt 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.800 like I had to. Like I got on this show, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.240 Charlotte Mage Andy Murphy wasn't one and told me I 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:25.760 was doing a show. I was doing a movie called 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.200 Who's Your Caddy with Big Boy. I'm talking in times 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.320 with Terry Crews. I'm just trying to make people laugh. 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.440 And they called me to guest host, and I guest 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.000 hosted and they liked me. And then Star was like, 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.360 when I go on, when I go on the road, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.000 I want to Sherry to fill in for me. I 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.240 was terrified to meet Star. Probably called her by the 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:46.880 wrong name, um stay sick because she was a big lawyer, 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.120 and Enjoy said, I like Sherry when I go on 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.640 the road and do kids called so he kept calling me. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.920 But I never wanted to do that show because I 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.440 knew they were talking about politics and debating. I was 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.000 as Jehovah's witness. I didn't do no debating on it, 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.120 talk back to people who were older than me, and um, 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.160 everybody kept saying, do it because it's gonna change your life. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.200 My best friend John Murray, who was my EP on 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.360 my show, he said, Sherry, doing the view will change 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:16.160 your life, and I promise you. And I did it reluctantly. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:17.920 And here the first week I said, I don't know 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.120 if the Earth was round the flat, step right in it. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.360 And I did. And by the way, I do know 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.880 that the Earth is round. I was so nervous. When 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.320 I get nervous, I can't remember names. I could, you know, 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.600 I didn't even hear them ask me the question. You 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.160 were ahead of your time. This is more flat Earth 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.480 is now now they aren't coming about the whoopworks everybody 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.320 who said Earth is flat. Um. But to sit next 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.560 to this woman who was just like, she don't smile, 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.920 she don't you know. And then I'm next to Whoopee 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.840 who's looking to be like, bitch, you don't know nothing, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.480 you know. I'm just like So it was very It 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.640 was very hard for me. How did you find yourself 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.040 on that show? Because you know Barbara would ask anything. Yeah, 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.640 and whoopee is already established. And that was the year 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.560 we started doing a lot of politics because that's the 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.920 year Obama was running, and it was a lot of 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.640 race stuff coming up. And I had to learn. It 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.639 was a lot of failures and it was a lot 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.399 of falls. I don't like callm failures. It was a 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.840 lot of faults on the view and I, you know, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.040 I had to sit and look at Bill Maher saying 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.399 they could do something with the stupid stick to me, 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.600 Bill O'Reilly called me a pinhead. You gave me Donkey 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:27.200 of the day like this was everything, Howard. I don't 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.080 remember what you gave it. No, you said I don't 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.720 have no butt or something. It was a Tasmanian devil, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.280 I remember. I know. But now you're now you you've involved, 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.440 Now you have therapy in your life, and you give 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.000 the gods that we all served your respectful. You love 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.800 people's energy. You do like now you're you're change, You've 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.040 evolved you and you weren't not all that when you 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:50.760 gave me Donkey in the day and talked about it. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:56.560 I was listening to y'all did show. Yeah, me and 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.399 my son listened to the show. He was like, Mommy 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.960 was shawmmate, don't like y'all. I don't know. Well, when 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.240 you give somebody donkey to day, Charlotte mage people when 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.600 you on the other Saturday asked stephen A. Smith, when 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.800 you're on up sad that people you know, you're thinking 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.840 of people. You think people don't like you. But it 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.880 is all of that I had. That's how I learned, Sherry. 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.200 You can't take in everybody else's energy that doesn't serve you. 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:25.800 I know that that's wanna pay attention to social media. 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.000 I wish I could let these young people know get 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.240 beyond social media and clapping back and you arguing with 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.560 this one. It don't serve you. It is a waste 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.320 of energy. But I didn't know that then, But I learned. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.359 I learned from a woman going, this ain't the day 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.800 an apology show. Go out there, stand by what you said, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.760 and we're gonna keep it moving because basically, once the 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.840 next news cycle comes, they're gonna forget what you said. No, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:50.160 that's what I want to ask you about that, because 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:51.920 that's a good point, right. Thank you for coming to 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:57.200 But after you gave you don't get you to show 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.720 I may actually you apologize. You was like, no, you're not. 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.159 Then you said you were sorry. So the evolution I 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.080 could see it happened. And even then so with that, right, 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.480 like we've seen Barbara Walters do apology shows and like 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.040 everybody sees all this old content of Barbara and they're 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.159 using the N word and asking people about that sexuality. 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:16.600