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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, it's a Thursday here on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 2: and it's the final day of mandatory mini camp. It's

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Speaker 2: already in the books. They practiced earlier today because it's

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Speaker 2: a getaway day for the players. The five and a

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Speaker 2: half week summer vacation begins. Now start the Indy five

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Speaker 3: That's goal.

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Speaker 2: And for people like us, the clock begins ticking down

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Speaker 2: on our summer.

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Speaker 1: We just got our schedule for training camp. All the

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Speaker 1: shows when we're day, we're you know, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: like nine shows over there. Yeah, at training.

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Speaker 2: Which is about average.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the only stay they stayed two weeks and

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then and then they they go up until the

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Speaker 1: right before that first preseason game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you also have the return of the Blue and

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Speaker 2: Red back here for a day or two that in

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Speaker 2: training camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we come back. We don't have to do

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Speaker 1: the show over there for that, and so we get

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Speaker 1: we get our minds around our little soare over in

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Speaker 1: Rochester area. But that here we go.

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Speaker 2: It's the countdown has begun.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you listen. I had to remind Brownie this.

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Speaker 1: We're in the midst of the playoff run this last year,

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Speaker 1: and we you know, are we gonna win? Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: we got to play so good here we Oh guysh

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Speaker 1: we I go right, This is it, man, This is

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Speaker 1: the best. This is this is why. This is why

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Speaker 1: we do the show in June when everybody's like the season,

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Speaker 1: it's vacant, everybody's out at the beach and everybody else

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Speaker 1: is having doing that show. We're doing the show for

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Speaker 1: days like this. Yeah, that's us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so here we are.

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Speaker 1: Tough reminder, So we are paying our dues.

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Speaker 2: In the past. I want to say four seasons, maybe five.

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Speaker 2: Head coach Sean McDermott has scrapped the final day of

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Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp. We had an inkling that he might

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Speaker 2: actually have a practice today just because of the turnover

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Speaker 2: on the roster, which is a little over thirty three percent,

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Speaker 2: which is a little higher than average, the fact that

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Speaker 2: it's a younger roster, and perhaps the fact that you

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Speaker 2: arguably have more quote unquote open starting roles on this

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Speaker 2: roster than you've had in about five years. For all

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Speaker 2: of those reasons, coach McDermott decides we're practicing on the

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Speaker 2: third day of mandatory mini camp. We are not scrapping

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Speaker 2: it now. After having the chance to watch it, Steve,

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Speaker 2: we saw that a lot of the reserve players got

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Speaker 2: the majority of the snaps in practice today. You know,

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Speaker 2: guys that usually don't get as many reps through the

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Speaker 1: An opportunity, yeah, because yeah, they're not gonna it's probably

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Speaker 1: because you want to get you know, guys like Khalils

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Speaker 1: There's like a dozen guys who are sitting out because

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Speaker 1: they got tweaked. They got a lot of soft tissue injuries,

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Speaker 1: some bumps, and there's just no reason to risk anybody

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Speaker 2: So it might have been another reason why a lot

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Speaker 2: of the frontline players were right sitting around, but I

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Speaker 1: But you're right, though, Brownie, I mean, there's going to

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Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be Ilium Elim, maybe it'll be somebody else,

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Speaker 1: Doug Rausseul Douglas. The defensive line rotation is going to

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Speaker 2: It was a little humorous because coach McDermott was asked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, particularly when you

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Speaker 1: as well, you let them run through it. It was

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Speaker 1: it was fun today to to see the offense either

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Speaker 1: it was It was obvious that the coaching staff is

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Speaker 1: where to go, what to do, what they're playing. You

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Speaker 1: We see some guys jumping off sides and that kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, Coach Babbage was putting his units

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Speaker 1: And McDermott's right, I'll say this though, Well he may

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Speaker 1: going to crescendo at the right time. That's been I

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Speaker 1: think the one noticeable constant about the teams he has fielded,

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Speaker 2: So Brandon Bean, Bill's general manager, as well as head

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Speaker 2: coach Sean McDermott, addressed the media after practice today. Some

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Speaker 2: other player players address the media after practice today. We'll

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Speaker 2: of the show. We did want to pass along though,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean's assessment of the off season the state of

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Speaker 2: you now in the Q and A session after practice today.

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Speaker 2: Here is Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 6: I just had Sean what his message was for the players.

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Speaker 6: What's your message to the front office and the coaching

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Speaker 6: staff for the next six weeks before you recin.

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Speaker 7: Do recharge, refresh and communicate wherever your job is. If

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Speaker 7: you're a trainer, something's going on. If you're a scout

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Speaker 7: and you hear something, whatever, your job.

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Speaker 5: Is, communicate with us. But get away. We got a

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Speaker 5: long grind. Let's be fresh when we get back. What's

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Speaker 5: in today's supposed to be an off the You have

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Speaker 8: What sort of growth did you see from your position

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Speaker 8: observing practice since the beginning of OTA to now growth

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Speaker 8: as far as what A lot of new faces and

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's good to see, you know, Mitch

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Speaker 7: Trubisky getting a chance to run with the ones a

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Speaker 7: him reacclimate. But a lot of young faces, a lot

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Speaker 7: of new faces, some guys obviously rookies trying to make

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Speaker 7: bounced around. We got a lot of competition. Obviously a receiver,

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Speaker 5: Made some plays.

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Speaker 7: It's funny you've got all different categories of established players,

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Speaker 7: this team trying to learn and make sure they know

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Speaker 7: what to do when they get the training camp.

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Speaker 8: Have you sensed any sort of a new energy with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think change can be good. You know, sometimes people.

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Speaker 7: Are resistance that's resistant to change, and naturally so a

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Speaker 7: lot of the things that we've been able to do,

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Speaker 7: we've had success, So why are you changing it? But

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Speaker 7: it's the nature of the business. You always want to

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Speaker 5: And this this is a new team.

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Speaker 7: Every team is a new team, but this is truly

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Speaker 7: a lot of new faces. As I said before, some

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Speaker 7: maybe things didn't work out as well, and we've got

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Speaker 7: a fresh opportunity for them to re establish themselves. So

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Speaker 7: as always, uh, it's it's been a good spring. We

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Speaker 7: got some guys nicked up, We've got to get them healthy.

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Speaker 5: But I'm ready to get a break. I'm ready for

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Speaker 5: everyone to get a break.

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Speaker 7: And but I'll be excited when we get to Saint

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Speaker 7: John Fisher, You'll be fired up.

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Speaker 9: But everyday teams are announcing joint practices for training camp.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: What is sort of your guys philosophy on not going

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Speaker 11: that route?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? We uh, we're not against it at all.

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Speaker 7: We We've had things in the past that were tentatively

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Speaker 7: lined up and so we're we're we're not against it

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Speaker 7: and doesn't mean we're not going to do something.

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Speaker 5: Brand as well.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, could you possibly do something this year?

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Speaker 5: Still? Possibly? Brandon?

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: What about Keon Coleman in particular?

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from him through OTAs now many camp? Uh?

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Speaker 5: And how did you kill cornerman? Look at you out there.

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Speaker 7: You know, I had to watch all the film to

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going to think a lot about it.

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Speaker 7: We've talked about it since it passed in March, and

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Speaker 2: All right. That's Brandon bean Bill's general manager, kind of

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing too. It the whole industry really kind

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Speaker 1: And you know, you spent your whole last few months

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Speaker 1: And now this building vacates for a few weeks and

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL here, because there is some

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Speaker 2: The NFL is docking the Falcons a twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: They maybe somebody from Philly reached out to him, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know, But in any event.

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Speaker 2: They were they were exonerated.

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Speaker 1: This is all yeah, pretty much. I mean a fifth

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Speaker 2: It was clearly booked him on a plane flight before

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to this though, I.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't have thought that would be a violation because a

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Speaker 1: There you go, I will kind of I'm puzzled a

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Speaker 2: That was the Tom Brady messing around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they told him a lot of stuff, of which

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Speaker 1: The rules that you broke also say that you have

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Speaker 2: The official trailer of Netflix's new series Receiver has dropped.

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Speaker 2: The show follows DeVante Adams, Justin Jefferson, George Kittle, Deebo Samuel,

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Speaker 2: and Amanro Saint Brown through the twenty twenty three season

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Speaker 2: that's produced by NFL Films, Omaha Productions and two PM Productions.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch Quarterback on Netflix, which followed Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 2: congratulations to Philadelphia Eagles radio play by play announcer Merrill Race.

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Speaker 2: He is going to be recognized by the Pro Football

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Speaker 2: kind of a big deal as far as broadcasters are concerned.

441
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Speaker 2: The reason why is he's only the third local broadcaster

442
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Speaker 2: to be recked with this award. The others are the

443
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 2: late great Van Miller and the late Myron Cope of

444
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers radio network. Meryl Reese is the longest

445
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: tenured voice in NFL history over forty years he's been

446
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Speaker 2: doing Eagles games. So congratulations to Meryll Reees. I had

447
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Speaker 2: the pleasure of meeting him last year when the Bills

448
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: went to play Philadelphia in Week twelve. Couldn't have been nicer,

449
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 2: great human being and an even better broadcaster. So congratulations

450
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Speaker 2: to him. That is a very prestigious award for people

451
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Speaker 2: in our business. So congratulations to him.

452
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Speaker 1: That's a big deal, and congratulations to him. That's hard

453
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Speaker 1: to survive in the NFL at in any job, and

454
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Speaker 1: to do it for forty plus years.

455
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Speaker 2: That's that guy was That guy was calling the miracle

456
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Speaker 2: in the Meadowlands Herman Edwards nineteen seventy nine. I mean,

457
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Speaker 2: think about that.

458
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Speaker 1: I think about it.

459
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Speaker 2: That's insane. Wow, nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: That's a long time, man. Wow, that's I was in

461
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Speaker 1: high school.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I was in elementary school.

463
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was in high school and now I'm

464
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Speaker 1: a grandpa. I mean think about that.

465
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Speaker 2: That's how long it is.

466
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Speaker 1: That's how long he's been doing games. Yeah, that's wild.

467
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Speaker 1: That is wild, and he would deserve it. Good for him.

468
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Speaker 1: I mean he went to the and think about it.

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Speaker 1: He was also was he the voice when Ron Jawarski

470
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Speaker 1: was in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that would be two years later, eighty one, So.

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Speaker 1: He suffered for decades. That's maybe that's what Maybe that's

473
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Speaker 1: what that reward is you gotta suffer?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think myron Cope did a lot of suffering.

475
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Speaker 1: That's a good point by you. Yeah, yeah, myron Cope

476
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Speaker 1: didn't suffer steel curtain. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think that that applies.

478
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Speaker 1: Not much suffering in that job.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 2: With mandatory mini camp coming to a close and training

482
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Speaker 2: camp now on the horizon, we are asking you today

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Speaker 2: at eight O three oh five fifty one eight eight

484
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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty, which player on this

485
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Speaker 2: Bill's roster needs to dominate in training camp? Somebody that

486
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Speaker 2: you feel really has to stand out to assert their

487
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Speaker 2: role on the roster. Eighth three five point fifty one

488
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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty is the number

489
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Speaker 2: to get on board. We do have open lines for you,

490
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Speaker 2: so feel free to chime in if you think there's

491
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Speaker 2: a player that really needs to shine to kind of

492
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Speaker 2: cement a prominent role, whether it's offense, defense, special teams.

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Speaker 2: You let us know who is your player that you

494
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Speaker 2: think needs to take over when the team gets out

495
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Speaker 2: to Saint John Fisher. I don't know about you, Steve,

496
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Speaker 2: but I think some of these rookie draft choices that

497
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: have to contribute to this team sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 2: It would certainly help if they dominate training camp, like

499
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Speaker 2: a Keon Coleman for example, Like you got a couple

500
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Speaker 2: of big fat roles to fill in the receiving corps,

501
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Speaker 2: and as good as you feel about Dalton, Kin Kaid

502
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: or Khalil Shakir, after that, it's largely unknown as to

503
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Speaker 2: who's gonna step to the forefront. I mean, you can

504
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Speaker 2: assume Curtis Samuel because he's done it in this league.

505
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: He's a proven veteran. You know mc collins. You have

506
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Speaker 2: faith he could be a role player. But if Keon

507
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Speaker 2: Coleman dominates in training camp, I think it changes the

508
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Speaker 2: whole conversation nationally about the Bills.

509
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Speaker 1: Absolutely it does. But here's the thing. It'll it'll change

510
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Speaker 1: it for the Bill's mafia because the national media won't

511
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Speaker 1: get that narrative in training camp until the season begins

512
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Speaker 1: and they see it happen. Uh, They're not gonna catch

513
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Speaker 1: it in training camp. They'll they'll hear about it, but

514
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: it won't change the narrative. They'll have to see it

515
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: to change the narrative for Bill's fans. Though, Yes, that's big.

516
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Speaker 1: I think it's big. I don't think any training camps

517
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Speaker 1: usually are kind of little incubators where it's hard to

518
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Speaker 1: get an idea of who's going to be really good

519
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: nationally unless you're there every day. Like you and me,

520
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Speaker 1: we're you know, you grind it out and you watch

521
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Speaker 1: those guys.

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Speaker 14: You know.

523
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Speaker 1: It's like even back in the day when Jeff Fisher

524
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: and those guys in Saint Louis drafted Aaron Donald, people

525
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: were saying, man, that guy's killing it over here. Wow,

526
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: look at that, And I was like, who is you know,

527
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: nobody knew until the guy's three time, you know, defensive

528
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Speaker 1: player of the Year and you know all that stuff.

529
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Speaker 1: So for to training camp, the guy who needs you

530
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Speaker 1: need to dominate training camp, it would be a lot

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Speaker 1: of it would be down the lines of Josh who

532
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Speaker 1: would be down the lines of maybe for Bill's fans,

533
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Speaker 1: a guy like Coleman or maybe Kincaid or Knox, maybe

534
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Speaker 1: James Cook.

535
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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, do you think Kinkaid

536
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Speaker 2: dominated training camp last year? I don't think he dominated

537
00:26:53,680 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 2: training camp, but he was readily noticeable day after day

538
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, wow, they're fast tracking this kid

539
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: for a reason, and I wouldn't say he dominated camp,

540
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: but he was a steady presence almost every day. Yes,

541
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Speaker 2: when you say dominate training camp, I have a pretty

542
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: high standard there because I'm going back to the ninety

543
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: eight training camp at Fredonia with Eric Molds, which is

544
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: still the most dominant one man show at a training

545
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: camp I have ever seen, and maybe we'll ever see,

546
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: because it was ridiculous. Three touchdowns every day, catching bombs,

547
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: making defensive backs look like six year olds. I mean,

548
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: it was complete and utter domination every single day.

549
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Speaker 1: He was a dude. Man, gosh, that guy was phenomenal. Yeah,

550
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: but that's yeah, we're talking about like that. And I

551
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know that there's anybody on this team outside of

552
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: Josh right who can make those throws and do stuff

553
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: like that that we all kind of, you know, shrug

554
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: our shoulder and say, yeah, that's just Josh. But I

555
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: think if you want to have a guy, And I

556
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: told you this and I last year in training camp,

557
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: I said that Kinkaid jumped. He didn't dominate, but he's noticeable,

558
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: but he was like, wow, that was real. It was good.

559
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: Again, this guy's gonna help him.

560
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: Look at this guy again. And plus you and I

561
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: both know with Dawson Knox sitting over there with a

562
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: new contract, King Kaid was like sitting back in the wings.

563
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: And then every time he'd get on the fields like wow,

564
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: look at that. And then slowly but surely he merged

565
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Speaker 1: as a as a player. The first it was a

566
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Speaker 1: role player. I remember it took him forever to score

567
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: his first touchdown, and then all of a sudden, the

568
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: guy is like, you know, flying around like a hummingbird.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

570
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: And another guy that didn't dominate but steadily moved his

571
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Speaker 2: way up the depth shot a couple of years ago

572
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: was Christian Benford. I mean, that guy's running third team

573
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: at the start of training camp and by week two

574
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: he's rotating in with starters at corner and it's like, oh,

575
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: here's a move, like look at this right. Didn't dominate,

576
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: but why we got to week one and.

577
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Speaker 1: He started, yeah, yeah, that's the thing. He was over

578
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: there going well, who what's this? Who's hurt? And you're like,

579
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? What's that guy doing over there?

580
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: That's Benford? Benford? Is this the ones?

581
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Speaker 15: You know?

582
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Where's the other guy? You know, it's hard to pick up,

583
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: but there he is, you know, and he's been there

584
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: ever since, and so I get that. For this team, though,

585
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: I think you've got to focus on somebody, anybody popping

586
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: out of that receiver room. I mean, Shaki is going

587
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: to show up. He's gonna get there. He's gonna get

588
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: a ton of balls, and so is Kincaid, so is

589
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: James Cook, who is gonna, by the force of his performance,

590
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: demand targets. That's the question. And that's and you do

591
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: that by just every day after day. You don't make

592
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: a mistake. You're always and you catch everything, even the

593
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Speaker 1: ones you're not supposed to catch. That's that's how you

594
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Speaker 1: do it. I'm with you, though, that position here and

595
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: coleman Is is a likely example, and I think I'm

596
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Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards him. There's some guys out there that

597
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: could pop though, like you know, Claypool and all that.

598
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Speaker 2: I have some other thoughts too, but I'm gonna hold

599
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Speaker 2: those because we're gonna be taking your phone calls at aight.

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Speaker 2: Oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty. We want to know from you,

602
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: which Bill's player do you think needs to dominate training

603
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Speaker 2: camp for their own well being? In terms of cementing

604
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: a primary role on this roster. Got open lines for

605
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Speaker 2: you at at oh three oh five fifty. We'll take

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Speaker 2: your phone calls next here on one Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by Colida Health.

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Speaker 15: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: Which Bill's player needs to dominate training camp? Whether you

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Speaker 2: think it's to cement a role on the fifty three

611
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Speaker 2: or land an even more prominent role than they already have.

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Speaker 2: Let us know at eight oh three five point fifty one,

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the numbering

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Speaker 2: to get on board. You got open lines for you there,

615
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Speaker 2: and we're going to go to the phones now. And

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Speaker 2: leading us off today is Judy in Buffalo. What do

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Speaker 2: you got for his Judy?

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Speaker 16: I want to know about the fourth pick, Ray Davis.

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Speaker 16: I haven't heard anything about him. I want to know.

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Speaker 17: Can he run the ball?

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Speaker 16: Can he catch the ball? Can he block if Cook

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Speaker 16: goes out? Is he going to be the first guy

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Speaker 16: in exactly what role are they going to use him for?

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Speaker 16: I have heard nothing about him. I hope he's a

625
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Speaker 16: surprise and that we can really depend on this guy

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Speaker 16: because we're going to need somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Judy, I think one of the reasons you

628
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: haven't heard a lot about him is he's been injured.

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Speaker 2: So he's been sidelined with an injury, should be fine

630
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: for training camp, did not participate in mandatory mini camp

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Speaker 2: at all. But I think this is a guy that

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00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: right now is running as running back number three because

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00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson is here. He re signed after what I

634
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: thought was a pretty darn productive first season with the Bills.

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Speaker 2: If you remember, he was a late signing because he

636
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: was coming back from offseason surgery and was not available

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00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: because he couldn't pass a physical. Gets healthy in mid August,

638
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: signs with the team right after their third preseason game,

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00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: and then makes the roster. So he's back, and I

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00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: think he's your running back number two until Ray Davis

641
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Speaker 2: proves he's better option.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Ray Davis is here, and he's been standing around,

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Speaker 1: you know, with a hat on because he with I

644
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: mean a baseball cap, because he's you know, he's not

645
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: one hundred percent physicals physically healthy. So that's why you

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00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: haven't heard much about him. He's one of the like

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Speaker 1: ten or twelve guys who are have been compromised by

648
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Speaker 1: some small injury during the offseason.

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Speaker 2: His college production is well documented. He's got over one

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00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: thousand yards rushing at three different college programs, Western Kentucky, Vanderbilt,

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Speaker 2: and last year Kentucky. And I'm just gonna tell you,

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Speaker 2: if you can run for over one thousand yards in

653
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Speaker 2: the SEC playing at Vanderbilt, you're a pretty darn good player,

654
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: because that is one of the weakest teams in that

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Speaker 2: conference and it is a powerhouse conference. Runs with purpose.

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Speaker 2: I would call him a between the tackles runner, but

657
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: does have some shake and bounce to his game so

658
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: we can get outside. He's got about four five speed,

659
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: four or five two speed, which is an elite but

660
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: is good. And he can catch the ball out of

661
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: the backfield as well as we're seeing here for our

662
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: MSG viewers who are watching him take it across the

663
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: field and down the sideline for a long touchdown on

664
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Speaker 2: a broken play, so extraordinarily productive. I think he's a

665
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: little bit more mature because he's twenty five year old

666
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: rookie bouncing around to three different programs. He's seen a

667
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: lot of adverse in his upbringing, kind of had a

668
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: rough upbringing, so he knows what adversity's about and facing challenges,

669
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Speaker 2: and I think that's what made him so appealing. I'll

670
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: just tell you flat out, he's my favorite pick in

671
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: the entire draft class for the Bills. I was over

672
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: the moon when they got him because I thought they

673
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: needed another guy on the roster at running back to

674
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: go with Cook and Johnson. And I like Davis's game

675
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: in terms of how it fits what the Bills want

676
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: to do.

677
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I think they need a

678
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: guy who can go up inside with the big guys

679
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: and find some space. Tough, physical runner, and I think

680
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: that his age is twenty five years and all the

681
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: carries he got in college, I mean think about over

682
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: eight hundred. Yeah, a lot of teams would shy away

683
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: from a running back like that, But if you're gonna

684
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: bring him in, you're not. He's not going to play

685
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: in front of James Cook. No, and right now he

686
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: probably won't play in front of Ty Johnson either. But

687
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: he's he ran for three different offenses in college and

688
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: was productive in all of them. He's going to acclimate,

689
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: I think pretty quickly, because he's used to doing it.

690
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: He's not he's not scheme specific. He can run, and

691
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: he can run and be productive in any scheme.

692
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think they I think more so than

693
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: any of the player, they know exactly what they're going

694
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: to get from him. And I think he's a dependable,

695
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: solid running back who's not going to make mistakes with

696
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, you know.

697
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: So I'm so hopefully that helps Judy.

698
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: I think he's going to develop. I think he's going

699
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: to develop faster than maybe it or maybe be it

700
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: a different more developed space than younger running backs in

701
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: the league would like James Cook would have been when

702
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Speaker 1: he was a rookie.

703
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: YEA, let's go back to the phones and we go

704
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Speaker 2: to Butcher on the east side.

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Speaker 17: What's shaking butch gentlemen, gentlemen, thank you so much for

706
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 17: taking Uk off.

707
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Speaker 3: Great show as usual. I really wanted to just touch

708
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: by based on a few things as to me, is

709
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: very important. Number one is it's gonna be kind of shocking.

710
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: And I don't think Coleman is going to be a

711
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: starter right off the right off, the right off the gates.

712
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: I don't believe Coleman is going to be a starter.

713
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: Reason why I really believe Chase k Claypool is going

714
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: to just come out and be the man in a

715
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: training camp. I think he has to come hard. I

716
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: think the quarterbacks Josh Allen and Drabinsky, along with offensive coordinator,

717
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 3: along with the quarterback coach and receivers coach, they're working

718
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: with him, giving the extra time, extra balls, learning the system.

719
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: You're going to go and you're going to go into

720
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: the season with veterans and people already, people already went

721
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: the war already. Don't get me wrong. Coleman's going to

722
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: start eventually, maybe maybe Game three, game four, But at

723
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: the same time, he's going to get a lot of snaps.

724
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying that with Claypool. Claypool, to me,

725
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: his agent is smart, brought him here, gave him a

726
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: second leash of life and say listen, take it and

727
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: run with it and.

728
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: Don't look back.

729
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: And I think that's what he's going to do now.

730
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 17: Secondly, is I'm looking at DeMar Hammler. Damar Hamler to

731
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 17: me personally, is ready to play. But if I was

732
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 17: Brandon Ban just out of out of respect, based off

733
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 17: of the safeties and everything that we do have, I

734
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 17: will go ahead and contact the Pittsburgh Steelers and make

735
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 17: a trade and let my go home where he's from

736
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 17: play for the Steelers, the team that he always wanted

737
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 17: to play for, and go ahead and get a pick

738
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 17: or something for next year, keep our safeties and move

739
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 17: forward with that. Now, last, but not least, I don't

740
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 17: really see since this new uh special team's kickoff and

741
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 17: you know everything, the whole special team has been changed

742
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 17: now that Reggie Gillam has a spot on that roster,

743
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 17: I don't see it. I don't know where he's gonna

744
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 17: fit in since special teams is not really a fact

745
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 17: or kickoff and returns anymore so. But anyway, Claypool is

746
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 17: my guy. I love you, guys. I love him as

747
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 17: g I love wgr and fans definitely, and I love

748
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 17: him and thank you so much for taking my call.

749
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so a lot of a lot of crown to

750
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: cover there. Let's start with Claypool, Steve, because I think

751
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: Claypool is every bit as physically gifted as Keyon Coleman

752
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: and probably runs a little bit faster, but you know,

753
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: the way height stuff is pretty comparable a loose athlete

754
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: like Kean Coleman. And he's got years in the league,

755
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: he's got more experience. The problem is he hasn't been

756
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: able to sustain a level of consistency with his game

757
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: once he gets to the regular season. For whatever reason,

758
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: people have had trouble putting their finger on just what

759
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: it is that keeps him from being a more consistent

760
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: week to week, down in, down out player, and it's

761
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: why he's been on four teams in the last three years.

762
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: So if he can change his spots and be more

763
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: consistent throughout training camp and the preseason for this team,

764
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: well then yeah, maybe he does leave frogs and people,

765
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: but that remains to be seen.

766
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we said when they signed him, this is really

767
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: training camp isn't about a physical test or you know,

768
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: being good enough to play. It's about his personality. You know,

769
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: he's certainly when it benefits him, and when it's been

770
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: all good for him, he is. He's a heck of

771
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: a player, but when you need him, sometimes he is

772
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: not there. He doesn't show up when you know that's

773
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: the question. Is he gonna really come in play hard,

774
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: practice hard, play really well in training camp to get

775
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: a spot on the roster and then do what he

776
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: did in Chicago and Pittsburgh just pull the ripcord and

777
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: start coasting the rest of the way. Is that what's

778
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna happen to him again. Four teams have seen him

779
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: do that. That were three. Three teams have seen him

780
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: do that. The Bills are the fourth. Are they gonna

781
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: see enough in training camp for him to make the squad?

782
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: Maybe he's that kind of player, but I don't know

783
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: that he's going. Is he the kind of player that

784
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: will lay it on the line when you need him

785
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: to lay it on the line, or will he lay

786
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: it on the line only when he wants st late

787
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: on the line. He has been you know, he's been

788
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: highly criticized for not blocking, not trying, coasting and whatever

789
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: the reasons that led that led to that. You can

790
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: you can take your take your pick. I mean, we're

791
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: watching a highlight now. He was pretty good when Ben

792
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was throwing it to him in Pittsburgh, played pretty well.

793
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: And when they lost Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh and it started

794
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: to be some mash of other guys, he kind of said, listen,

795
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm not here to be catching it from just some guy.

796
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: I need you know, if you're gonna why am I

797
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: trying out here when you got this guy playing quarterback.

798
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: That was the attitude that was was perceived by a

799
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: lot of people. He went to Chicago, and of course

800
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: Chicago was a hot mess in the Justin Fields era,

801
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: and he didn't want any part of that obviously either

802
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: he played that way. So he goes to Miami for

803
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: the second half of last.

804
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: Year, not on the field much with the offense.

805
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: Wasn't on the field because he can see it. You know,

806
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: they got they got Tyreek and they got Jalen Waddle.

807
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean there's not much space out there, but he,

808
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, same kind of thing. Really didn't look like

809
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: he was fitting in or was comfortable anyway, all though

810
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: you know he's there for two months. I get it.

811
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions about him physical Is

812
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: a physical ability to play wide receiver at the NFL

813
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: level is not one of those questions.

814
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I will say this, it was pretty

815
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: evident that in much the way the Bills were making

816
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: sure to get reps for Dalton Kincaid through the spring

817
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: and training camp last year, they're doing that in much

818
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: the same way with Keon Coleman this spring. So it's

819
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: clear that they want him to be a part of

820
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: the rotation early as a rookie. Whether someone can overtake him,

821
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: I think remains to be seen. As far as Damar

822
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: Hamlin's concerned, I think his biggest asset in staying on

823
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: this roster is the continuity factor. He knows this defense

824
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: intimately inside and out now that he's entering his fourth season.

825
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: You can't say that about anybody on the roster besides

826
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Cam Lewis at the safety position, and I think there

827
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: is value in that, and I think they'd be hesitant

828
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: to move on from him at least at this stage.

829
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: Maybe if they feel good at the end of training

830
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: camp in the preseason about Edwards and Bishop and Taylor Rapp,

831
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: maybe that conversation changes. But as for right now, I

832
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: think his continuity is an asset for those guys.

833
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 5: Man.

834
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: But you're right, Pittsburgh would make a lot of sense

835
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: if a scenario fell its way, and he and Mike

836
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: Tomlin have been friends since Tomorrow was twelve, So yeah,

837
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reason. I think that would be

838
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: a great fit for him, But the Bills don't want

839
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: to see him go anywhere for the moment.

840
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, which Bill's player needs to dominate training camp? You

841
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: let us know at ATO three oh five fifty one

842
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five point fifty. We

843
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: take a break here, but we'll lead off with Andrew

844
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: and Ontario when we return here on One Bill's Live,

845
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right

846
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: back here on a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live.

847
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Which Bill's player do

848
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 2: you believe needs to dominate? Training camp? Mandatory Mini camp

849
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: is in the books. The team is on its five

850
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: and a half week break before training camp ensues at

851
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: Saint John Fisher. Who's got to really turn it up

852
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: to either a cement their place on the roster, b

853
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: nail down a prominent role on offense or defense. You

854
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: let us know at aight oh three five fifty. Got

855
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: some open lines for you there. But we go to

856
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: the phones now and lead off with Andrew in on Terry,

857
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: what's up?

858
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: Andrew, Hey, Christ and Steve, thanks so much for having

859
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: me on. What I really want to see is to

860
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: have Connor McGovern dominate. No doubt, he's going to have

861
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 3: a big role on the offensive line regardless of where

862
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: he is, but I want to see him dominate at center.

863
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: And the big reason is you don't want to be

864
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: going into your season. I'm sure who's going to be

865
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: snapping the ball to josh Allen. You know, you want

866
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 3: to josh Avin much time as possible with whoever he's

867
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: going to work with. And you know we signed fran

868
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: Pran Granger, so there's been some talk about whether it's

869
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: going to be Connor or him, and I'd be happy

870
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: with either as long as it's solidified. But the reason

871
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: I want to see Connor McGovern at center this year

872
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 3: is because I was really excited last year about our

873
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: little version of the push pusse that we ran. So

874
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 3: you remember, we ran it through the left guard Connor

875
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: McGovern instead of running it through center like the Eagles

876
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: or other teams do. And this year, I think it

877
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 3: would be awesome if we could run it through center

878
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: with Connor mc government. He would just say, you know,

879
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: those few extra inches, those two for milliseconds on the play.

880
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: Please do let me know if I'm being ridiculous thinking

881
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: that we'd be benefited by having Connor McGovern center so

882
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: we can run down little touch push play directly through center.

883
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: So that's my reason. We're hoping that Colin mc governs

884
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: cements himself is our absolute center in training camp.

885
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it, it'd be good to have that

886
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: answer sooner rather than later. I think it's trending that way.

887
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean, not only because of the way he's performed

888
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: on the field to this point, and granted it's not

889
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: real football yet, especially for the lineman with no pads,

890
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: but the comments from coach McDermott, we're very encouraging about McGovern,

891
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: not only from a playing perspective, but a leadership perspective.

892
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: And then it was interesting to hear him talk yesterday

893
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: McGovern about how he's longed to get back to the

894
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 2: center position because that's where he began his college career

895
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: and then for other reasons and circumstances, got shifted out

896
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: to guard several times, ended up playing there mostly as

897
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: a pro and you could tell, just by the way

898
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: he sounded and was talking yesterday, very excited to be

899
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: back in.

900
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: The pivot, right.

901
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

902
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: And that was pretty cool to hear because you know,

903
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: none of us had known that about how he really

904
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: felt about this position change, and to hear him be

905
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: so positive and enthusiastic about it was pretty cool, And

906
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: I think that kind of changed the spin of what

907
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: was going to happen up front for a lot of people,

908
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: at least our perception. I'm sure the Bills had a

909
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: handle on a long before we ever heard Connor McGovern

910
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: liked it, but I think it changed the perception of

911
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: what was going on up there and how the shuffling

912
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: was gonna affect everybody.

913
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think things are in good stead going

914
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: into training camp with McGovern as your frontline center, and

915
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: I think he would probably have to struggle mightily for

916
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: that to change going forward. Or Cedric Van Prang Granger

917
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: or Will Clap, the veteran free agent that they signed

918
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: from the Chargers who also lines up at center. One

919
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: of those guys would have to flat out dominate and

920
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: outshine mcgovernor if they had even a sniff of a

921
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: chance of unseating him, because I think it is unequivocally

922
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: trending that way. Let's go to Tom on the west

923
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: side next.

924
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 18: What's up Tom, Good, afternoon, jumps. Listen. I'll get to

925
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 18: what you were talking about yesterday in a minute, But

926
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 18: first I'm going to tell you I think I can

927
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 18: call the wide receiver room right now. It's going to

928
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 18: be mvs Claypool, Hollins, Samuel Coleman, and Shaker so that

929
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 18: gives me the duk course is going to be shorter.

930
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 18: If Shorter wants to get off the practice squad and

931
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 18: make the fifty three, he's going to have to outperform

932
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 18: those guys. Now here's what has to happen though, And

933
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 18: this was where it ties into yesterday that I wanted

934
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 18: to talk to you about. Josh Allen is going to

935
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 18: have to start distributing the ball more and being more

936
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 18: aware of what's going on instead of trying to make

937
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 18: a crazy play because this way, nobody's gonna know who's

938
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 18: getting the ball, and by doing that, the defense is

939
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 18: going to be off balance. Now here's where Steve is

940
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 18: right is it depends on what the defense calls. So

941
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 18: whatever the pairings that you get, that is a man

942
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 18: that's gonna get the ball. So it's gonna be a

943
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 18: horse race to the very end to see who the

944
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 18: leading receiver is. I don't think he can call that

945
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 18: right now. Hang out the why you.

946
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: Respond, Yeah, it's kind of interesting. Tom said he didn't

947
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: think you could call it right now, but he already

948
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 2: gave us his six receivers on the fifty three roster.

949
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: Tom's got it figured out, but he doesn't know if.

950
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: Anybody else could call its Chase Claypool, Curtis Samuel, Shaquille,

951
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: Mac Collins and Mac Collins yeah.

952
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: And Coleman. Yeah. I think Shorter does have to dominate

953
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: if he wants to get a spot on this fifty

954
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: three man roster. He's he's gonna have a chore, a

955
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: major chore to climb the depth chart, and he's gonna

956
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: have to be more consistent than he was this spring

957
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: in terms of route running, catching the ball, all of

958
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: that stuff. So hopefully when the pads go on, his

959
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: game elevates. There are some players who dominate in the spring.

960
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: Spring football is not real football, and then the pads

961
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: go on and some players shrink and some players emerge,

962
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: And you have to believe that the Bill's coaching staff

963
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: is hoping that when the pads go on, that Shorter

964
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: emerges because he's got some ground to cover here and

965
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: a handful of players to leap frog. If he wants

966
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: to cement himself on the fifty three.

967
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: Right, that's it's going to be a crowded room because

968
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunity and a lot of veterans

969
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: who have got some chops that are going for a

970
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: few spots, and the attitude in that room is not

971
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: one where you think, well, okay, it's not like, well, okay,

972
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: Diggs is here, Davis ain't going anywhere. Shakira is here,

973
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. There's like two spots we're here for, right,

974
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: It's not like that. It's Shakir and everybody else who's

975
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: going for the rest of the spots. We've had the

976
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: conversation of how many receivers that will be on the roster.

977
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: It's got to be six, maybe an outside show, maybe.

978
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: At seven, depending on how it goes now and we

979
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: heard you know, Judy from Buffalo saying, you know, Gillian

980
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have you know, there's no spot for him if

981
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: you're going to run the football or maybe it was

982
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: another caller.

983
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was another call I respectfully disagree on that.

984
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 2: I think Gillium serves a role on offense. I'll be

985
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: it a minor one, but he serves a.

986
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: Role unless they can find somebody to do that role

987
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: in addition to something else. You know, you know, that's

988
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: a possibility. You could always get you know, one of

989
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: the tight ends, like you know, Quintin Morris or somebody

990
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: to play tight end for two snaps a game where

991
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: Gilly full I mean here fullback for two snaps a

992
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: game where Gillian did. But we'll see. I I'm kind

993
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: of with you though. The wide receiver room is is

994
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: coming down to like a well, I.

995
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: Mean, you got thirteen guys that's gonna get chopped in.

996
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like eight guys that are either on

997
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: the practice squad or on the roster, maybe nine. So

998
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking at. Six on six on the roster,

999
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: five on game day.

1000
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. But coming up in hour

1001
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: number two, we'll hear from the likes of Tarren Johnson.

1002
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: He addressed the media after the final practice today. So

1003
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: players sound coming your way in hour number two, a

1004
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: comment from head coach Sean McDermott as well and more

1005
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: of your phone call. Which Bills player needs to dominate

1006
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: training camp? You let us know here on One Bill's

1007
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1008
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

1009
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: All right now number two Here on a Thursday, Chris

1010
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: Brown Steve tasking with you One Bill's Live and asking

1011
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 2: you which Bill's player needs to dominate in training camp.

1012
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 2: Maybe it's somebody that needs to dominate just to get

1013
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: on the fifty three man roster. Maybe you're thinking of

1014
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: someone that needs to step forward and fill one of

1015
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: the voids left by the free agent departures or salary

1016
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: cap casualties and nail down a major role on this roster.

1017
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: Whoever you think that might be, you let us know

1018
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: at eight h three five point fifty one eight eight

1019
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty that's the number to get

1020
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: on board, or you can hit us up on the

1021
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: tweetsheet at one Bill's Live if you don't have time

1022
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: to give us a jingle Before we get back to

1023
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: the phones, though, we do want to play some comments,

1024
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: chiefly from head coach Sean McDermott, who addressed the media

1025
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: after practice today to close out the off season program

1026
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: last day of mandatory mini camp. He chose to hold

1027
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: the third day of practice, hadn't done that in the

1028
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: previous five years, felt it was necessary for various reasons.

1029
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 2: But here's a comment from coach McDermott at the close

1030
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: of mandatory mini camp today.

1031
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 10: Obviously, a high percentage of new player's new faces, so

1032
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 10: we're the more reps we can get the better and

1033
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 10: and listen, I would say. I would add I appreciate

1034
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 10: the players willingness and their attitude when they went out there.

1035
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 10: Not all, not all teams are practicing on on the

1036
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 10: third day of mini camp, and I appreciate I appreciate

1037
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 10: their attitude.

1038
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 6: What's your message to the players as they leave the

1039
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 6: facility and you know, welcoming them back six weeks from now.

1040
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 10: H Fisher, Yeah, I'll be ready to go make good

1041
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 10: decisions in the off season. The off season, I should

1042
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 10: say this this period of time, four week period of

1043
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 10: time when they leave us to when they come back

1044
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 10: to Saint John Fisher and and be ready to go,

1045
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 10: be in shape and because it's going to be a

1046
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 10: challenging camp.

1047
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: So we heard them right there. Player turnover on this

1048
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: roster a little higher than it's been in recent years,

1049
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: and because of all those new additions, he felt the

1050
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 2: third day of practice was valuable to have the extra reps.

1051
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It wasn't a walk through either, no,

1052
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: so it was. It was a serious practice or a

1053
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: series as you can be, no pads and stuff, but

1054
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: it was real and he's right. I think when he

1055
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: ha have this many new players on there, you can

1056
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: expect then if it was a veteran team, you could

1057
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: expect some grumbling or some pushback as to having a

1058
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: third day of the practice. When it's he's right around

1059
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: the league, a lot of teams don't do it. They

1060
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: just they do what he's done in the past. He's

1061
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: cut them loose. But to have a really good attitude

1062
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: to go out and practice hard and concentrate on it.

1063
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, you or I were sitting out there watching

1064
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: them go through some individuals, guys going up and retaking

1065
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: a rep because they didn't like the way the last

1066
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: rep went, whether they, you know, get to drop the

1067
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: ball or get a better pass or get a different

1068
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: route or whatever. It was interesting to see and it's

1069
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: good to see. And I think he's I think that's

1070
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: what he was alluding to when he said he liked

1071
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: the attitude. They seemed excited and happy to be out there,

1072
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: as you would expect when everybody who's out there feels

1073
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: one hundred percent and the ready to go.

1074
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: And basically the message to the players is stay ready.

1075
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: It might be a vacation in terms of not having

1076
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: to report to work every day, but these guys have

1077
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 2: to remain in prime physical condition, so when they get

1078
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: to training camp, they can spend time refining and installing

1079
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: the scheme, not worry about getting into shape. It used

1080
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: to be that way when there were six preseason games

1081
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: and you could use the preseason to get in shape

1082
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: for the regular season. That doesn't exist anymore.

1083
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: Well, and yeah, and you were paying guys less than

1084
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: ten grand a year to play, so and they all

1085
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: had you know, they were all selling a car. They

1086
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: were all selling cars or insurance or swinging a hammer

1087
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: or you know, or you know, had their head in

1088
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: the under the hood of a car in the off season.

1089
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: They're pro. Everybody's pro athlete. Now. Some of the guys

1090
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: that I came into the league with when I was

1091
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: a youngster, they played with guys who had to do that.

1092
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: They had to have a second job. I played with

1093
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: guys who had had second jobs earlier in their careers.

1094
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: They went out and you know, got a supplemental income.

1095
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: And during my time it was turned into one hundred

1096
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: percent professional athletes. You were doing it, and he did

1097
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: it year round, and the league kind of ballooned from there.

1098
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: Now it's a it's a way of life for these guys.

1099
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: It is because that gets passed down from generation to generation,

1100
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: and young guys come in and see how the really

1101
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: good guys do it every day and they say, that's

1102
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: what I gotta do and they and they do it,

1103
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: and they do it even better, and they hand that

1104
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: down to the next generation the players that come in

1105
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: and watch them do it and the stuff that is

1106
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: available to them. I was having a chat with Dawson

1107
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: Knox yesterday and he told me some of the stuff

1108
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: that he goes through and he's laughing at me. He goes,

1109
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: they didn't have that in your day, Hunt. I was like,

1110
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: I was like, no, they didn't know what are you talking?

1111
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: What is that word you're using? What is that that's

1112
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: it's that far advanced from where it was when I

1113
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: was playing. So these guys know, in the next month,

1114
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: I would be I would not be surprised if guys

1115
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: who have done like Vaughan Josh, all these guys who

1116
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: have been around for a minute, Dion Dawkins, they got

1117
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: a schedule for the next month and it you know,

1118
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: it includes working out every day and doing stuff. So

1119
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: it's it's just the way it is. And but you know,

1120
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: for a head coach, there are guys like Keon Coleman,

1121
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: who sweet, I'm going to the Bahamas, right, I just

1122
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: signed my new contract. Right. There's a little bit of

1123
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: that in there, So we'll see. We'll see if who

1124
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: gets the message and who doesn't.

1125
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: And for guys like Matt Mulano, who's still trying to

1126
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: get one hundred percent right and full medical clearance to

1127
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: do everything, he's gonna probably be here at One Bill's

1128
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: Drive for the next five weeks at least. That was

1129
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: the indication that we got. And he's been here and

1130
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: he's been diligent. I mean, that guy's been here since

1131
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: January doing stuff here this offseason. I'm sure there's been

1132
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: a couple of instances where he's gone home to Florida

1133
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: where he lives, or you know, spend some time with

1134
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: family or whatnot. But other than that, that guy's been

1135
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: grinding to be ready for training camp and more importantly,

1136
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: the regular season. So there are exceptions where guys will

1137
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: stay put, stay here, work with the athletic training staff,

1138
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: and take advantage of the resources that the Bills have

1139
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: here for them. So he's one of those examples, and

1140
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: maybe to a certain extent, Spencer Brown is as well,

1141
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: coming off off season and shoulder surgery. So that's kind

1142
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: of what those guys are looking at going forward.

1143
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's in their own boat and trying to get

1144
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: ready and focused in on you know. It was it

1145
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: July twenty third, and it starts to get and I

1146
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: remember the body clock going off vividly. Even as I

1147
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: got deeper into my career and we had young children

1148
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: at the time, the whole family, the whole family was

1149
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: focused on. When I went to training camp, we had,

1150
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, events we needed to do, We had family

1151
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: things we need to do. You had a touch base

1152
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: with friends and fan because you wouldn't see him for

1153
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: six months. You know, you couldn't you just you were

1154
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: you go into a cocoon in the locker room for

1155
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 1: the season and you don't come out. And veteran guys

1156
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: know what that's like, and they and they prepare for it. Yeah,

1157
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. We're still sitting here. We're sitting here

1158
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: talking about how this is going to wind up again,

1159
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: and we're at this point already. I mean it it

1160
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, they're just it's just a big breath before

1161
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: they jump in. And of course when training camp happens, man,

1162
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: they start out at a sprint mentally and excitement wise,

1163
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: and you're adrenaline's pumping. You get out there and oh

1164
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: my gosh, more of.

1165
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: A slower ramp up physically because they really don't put

1166
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: pads on it until I think the sixth practice, right,

1167
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: that's when the pads go on and the rubber really

1168
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: meets the road. One player who was afforded an inordinate

1169
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: amount of reps due to the absence of Rasuwell Douglas

1170
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: and then the subsequent absence of Christian Benford an excused

1171
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: absence during mandatory mini camp was Kai You're Elam, who

1172
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: is hoping to revive his pro career and finally get

1173
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: it out of the starter's block right with the bills,

1174
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: and by all accounts, had a pretty productive spring. So

1175
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: here is Kyrie Elam weighing in on his off season

1176
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: program as it came to a close today at the

1177
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: end of miniicamp.

1178
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 11: Just play after play, managetory minichamp seem to go really

1179
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 11: well for you.

1180
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 14: If what was clicking just trusting and believing myself, seeing

1181
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 14: seeing everything, seeing plays developed one or two times, and

1182
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 14: after a while it gave me the confidence to go

1183
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 14: out there.

1184
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 5: And just just play fast and.

1185
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 14: Free, trusting in my technique my coaches installed in me

1186
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 14: and poured into me to allow me to go just

1187
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 14: play fast and free.

1188
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 11: Does it validate things?

1189
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 5: You know?

1190
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 11: We talked to you a couple weeks ago and you

1191
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 11: were talking about how you need to keep a positive mindset,

1192
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 11: but just getting on the field and making the plays

1193
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 11: kind of validate what you're.

1194
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 5: Doing for sure. For sure.

1195
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 14: I mean, like I'm a firm believer in what you

1196
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 14: put in is what you get out. You know, it

1197
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 14: might not happen when you wanted to or when you

1198
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 14: think it should, but it's gonna always it's gonna always

1199
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 14: work out, and it's gonna always show. And so I

1200
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 14: just felt like it was It was great to see

1201
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 14: me making plays and being able to to be a

1202
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 14: great teammate to my my to my teammates. So now

1203
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 14: they know they could count on me and and just

1204
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 14: be there when they need me to.

1205
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 9: What there is the defensive coordinator? What is that been

1206
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 9: like now? Especially for you?

1207
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 14: It's been great. I love his juice. Out of the

1208
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 14: three defensive coordinators I've had and I've been here, he

1209
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 14: has brought the juice every single day.

1210
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 5: His energy, his passion.

1211
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 14: Called he treats everybody fairly, and I mean he brings

1212
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 14: it every day, like the energy and the passion is

1213
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 14: just I love it.

1214
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 5: You talked about leaving yourself and trusting in your ability.

1215
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 11: What does a guy like Tearing having him in that

1216
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 11: room do to help you in that aspect?

1217
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 14: He's a vet, you know, he's been there seeing it all. Well,

1218
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 14: not all because we're all still learning and growing and

1219
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 14: trying to develop, but he's seen a lot more than

1220
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 14: I mean, I definitely have what he's going on with

1221
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 14: year seven, year three, So he's double the wisdom and

1222
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 14: knowledge that I have in the NFL. So he's been

1223
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 14: a guy that anybody can lean on, not even myself

1224
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 14: because I've been here, but even a rookies like they

1225
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 14: not afraid to ask him a question because because Tar

1226
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 14: is gonna be there and be able to uh to.

1227
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 5: Share his knowledge.

1228
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1229
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 11: So what does what does your mindset going into training camp?

1230
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 14: What do you have to kind of focus on everything

1231
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 14: every aspect? Like I said, I just want to be

1232
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 14: a guy that my teammates can count on for me

1233
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 14: to be able to out there and do my job.

1234
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 14: And I really believe that I could really take away

1235
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 14: the ball at a high level. So just continue to

1236
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 14: working on you know what's gonna get me there, So

1237
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 14: my feet, my eyes, trusting in the call that Bobby

1238
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 14: gives us, and just giving great.

1239
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 5: Effort after going through OTAs in mini camp. How ready

1240
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 5: do you feel this team is for training camp?

1241
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 4: Oh?

1242
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 5: Very prepared.

1243
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 14: I think coach mc dermott made a made a statement

1244
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 14: about us coming out here on this third day because

1245
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 14: usually the last two years i've been here, we only

1246
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 14: did two days a mandatory mini camp. But he's made

1247
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 14: a he made a statement like you know we we

1248
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 14: I think forty percent of our team is still new.

1249
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 14: So I think from where we started at, from the

1250
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 14: first okas till now, I feel like that we have

1251
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 14: gotten a way, way way cleaner, and I feel like

1252
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 14: the effort when when you know what you're doing, you

1253
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 14: can play a lot faster. So I feel like the

1254
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 14: effort was a lot better too than when we first started.

1255
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 13: So yeah, he talked about body being fair, but he

1256
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 13: also when we talked to him, he said he can

1257
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 13: be he can have guys not like him sometimes too,

1258
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 13: he goes, he goes, he can be hard, for sure,

1259
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 13: But do you find he's hard but fair.

1260
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, most definitely, and some people like okay, so he's fair,

1261
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 14: but like some people get you know, more like out

1262
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 14: of him than others, you know what I mean, when

1263
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 14: when when it goes to when it comes to like

1264
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 14: you know, getting on them. So which is which is

1265
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 14: understandable because everybody's at a different pace of their career

1266
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 14: and everybody's accomplished more than others, so which is understandable.

1267
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 14: But I mean I love his his juice and his energy.

1268
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 14: Every single day he brings it and that that kind

1269
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 14: of rubs up on us, you know.

1270
01:04:59,200 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1271
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: It's ky Arielam addressing the media after the final mandatory

1272
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: mini camp practice today, and you can tell that And

1273
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: this isn't just Kay you're saying this. We've heard this

1274
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: from other defensive players. They like the energy and passion

1275
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: that Bobby Babbage displays as new defensive coordinator. And really

1276
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: that today was the first practice Steve and I got

1277
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: to watch start to finish because most of the time

1278
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 2: we got to run in here and do our show

1279
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: because practice is usually later. And if you don't hear

1280
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage out there, you have a hearing problem. Like

1281
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna be unmistakable.

1282
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: I was saying it today that the most interesting conversation

1283
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: around this training camp. There's a lot of new faces.

1284
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: You've got Kean Coleman is going to be in the mix,

1285
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: it wide receiver, You've got Van Prant Grainger, You've got

1286
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: mcm connor McGovern at center. You know, can all this

1287
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: stuff's going on. The most interesting and most I think

1288
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: important conversation of training camp is Bob Babbage and play calling.

1289
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: It's an art form. It's it's a science slash art form.

1290
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: It's it takes an intelligence and a presence of mind

1291
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: and an in the moment attitude that I think takes

1292
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: time to learn. We don't know what we know they're

1293
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: going to decide, and we know McDermott would love to

1294
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: have Babbage do it. But that conversation is really important.

1295
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really interesting to listen

1296
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: to the progress or the regression or what McDermott has

1297
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: to say about Babbage call and plays in game, because

1298
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Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. You only get three of them.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, Brady, Babbage is this high I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's high energy man. He is let's go, He's chasing guy.

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Speaker 1: They make an interception on defense today, Babbage is chasing

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Speaker 1: the guy down high five. He's going crazy. He's like

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Speaker 1: the field, Yeah, it's like they it's like they won

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Speaker 1: the you know, the super Bowl. On the last second play,

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Speaker 1: he's running over there is the best thing ever. You

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Speaker 1: can't do that as a play caller, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: you can't do it. So is he gonna Is he

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Speaker 1: gonna have to? Is it gonna change him too much

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Speaker 1: to have to be standing there thinking about the next play?

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Speaker 1: You know, every time they make a good play defensively

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Speaker 1: or that, you know, it's a big change in your role,

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, as I'm getting to you change the

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Speaker 1: way you think on the sidelines. That's hard to do.

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Speaker 1: For a guy who's been doing this this job for

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Speaker 1: thirteen years, since twenty thirteen, so it's eleven years. He's

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Speaker 1: got to completely change the way he sees the game

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Speaker 1: from moment to moment to moment. And that's big. And

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Speaker 1: I think McDermott is probably trying to prepare him for that,

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Speaker 1: and he's trying to prepare himself. That conversation about who's

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Speaker 1: calling defensive plays, to me, is the most interesting and

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Speaker 1: important conversation of training and.

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Speaker 2: He'll probably get a preseason game or two to prove

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Speaker 2: that he is capable of doing it.

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Speaker 1: And they get all three of them.

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Speaker 2: May get all three.

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Speaker 1: German doesn't need to practice.

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Speaker 2: No, may get all three. So it'll be a very

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Speaker 2: interesting dynamic that will unfold through the course of training

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Speaker 2: camp in the preseason. Let's get back to the phones

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Speaker 2: at eight oh three oh five fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two, five point fifty as we

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Speaker 2: are asking you today which Bills player needs to dominate

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Speaker 2: in training camp and we go to Jim in Middlebury next.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Jim, Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've been watching cam Lewis since he came

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Speaker 4: out of U B and I think he's a guy

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Speaker 4: that needs to dominate just to save his career. You know,

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01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 4: he's like second off the bench for all the backfield,

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 4: and I know he has a really good handle on

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Speaker 4: special teams. But I'm kind of wondering would the Bills

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 4: want to keep him around, you know, with so much

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Speaker 4: other talent coming up. I'll just hang up and listen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if contract is any indication, I believe

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: they signed him to a new two year deal. Cam's

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 2: a survivor. I mean that guy survived on this roster

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01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 2: when Tree, Davious White, Tarn Johnson, Micah Hyde, and Jordan

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01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: Poyer were on it. I think it's a pretty good

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01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: chance he's gonna stick with all the newness, much like

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: Damar Hamlin. Continuity is his foil. But I think his

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01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: biggest asset is he can back up multiple positions. He

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 2: backs up at safety and he backs up at slot

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01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: corner behind Taron Johnson. There's not many guys in the

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01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: league that can do both of those things. So, and

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Speaker 2: he plays on special teams. So I think his skill

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01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: set parlay's it. He's gonna have a ten year career

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: in this league because of all the things that he

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01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: can do. I mean, maybe he's not starting caliber in

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01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: the eyes of many personnel executives, but he's fifty three

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Speaker 2: man roster material unquestionable.

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Speaker 1: The reason guys like cam Lewis hang around for a

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01:09:54,720 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: long time is because, as Yogi Barrett the Tune Yogi

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01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: Bear used to say, he's smarter than the average bear.

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01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: That's what keeps you around. He's he knows he has

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Speaker 1: the ability to look at himself in the mirror, watch

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01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: himself on tape, watch other guys around and watch the league,

1366
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: play in the league, and say this is how I

1367
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: fit and this is how I'm gonna make it, and

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01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: then have the ability to commit himself to being that

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: he's done that It came out of you bet. I

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: mean that he is. He figured it out. So you

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01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: can bet if unless they are neck deep in ultra

1372
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: elite talent or you know, I'm hyperbolzing, unless there's a

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01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: ton of talent around him that just outshines him, He's

1374
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: going to figure out what he has to do to

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Speaker 1: make the team and contribute. That's that's Cam Lewis. And

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: so I think you're right. I don't think he needs

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01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: to worry about them finding a way to keep him.

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Speaker 1: He does that. That's why he's here. Yeah, and that's

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: something that you see in other sports as well. You

1380
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: see the guy that he just he's Every year the

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: roster comes out there there is again he's this is

1382
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: year you know nine. You know, this is year ten,

1383
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: this is year eight. You know, this is his fourth contract.

1384
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: You know, all these guys have two contracts. In their

1385
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: eighth year, they get a four year deal. As a

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01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: first round pick, or five year and they signed a

1387
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: four year extension. They're still around. This is him after

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: four contracts right there.

1389
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Speaker 2: And he's affordable. I mean his cap hit this year

1390
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 2: is one point six. I mean a guy that fills

1391
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: three different roles on your roster at one point six

1392
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 2: cap hit. I mean the guy unless he falls completely

1393
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 2: flat on his face in training camp and can't play anymore. Right,

1394
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: he's on the roster, right and he does too many things.

1395
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's also one of those guys that when Sean

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: mcdermam says, Okay, show up ready, he's gonna show up ready. Yeah,

1397
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna show up, is going to be exactly like

1398
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: they expect him to be. So yeah, that's a good call.

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Speaker 1: But that's you know, there are guys like cam Luis

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Speaker 1: on every team different not I'm talking about not the

1401
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: position but the station. You know, just a guy that's

1402
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: he's he's in a position group. He's a wide receiver,

1403
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: he's a defensive back, he's a linebacker, he's a defensive line.

1404
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: You can't cut him because he's just he does too

1405
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: many things well enough, and you trust him with when

1406
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: you put him in there, He's not gonna it's not

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01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: gonna be a drop off the face. He's not gonna

1408
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: blow it for you. You're not gonna get rid of

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01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: a guy like that. And that's that's cam Lewis and

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: and and other guys like him. So yeah, I like

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01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: that statement because it gives you a chance to talk

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01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: about guys like cam Lewis who are just they're here

1413
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: because they're tough, athletic enough and smart, really smart their

1414
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: sense of self awareness. They know they're they know they're

1415
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: not gonna be Tredavious White. They know they're not gonna

1416
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: be Stefan Diggs, but they're gonna be there. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be one of those guys.

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01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: We also heard after mandatory minicamp from Taron Johnson. He

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 2: addressed the media briefly, and you know, this is a

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Speaker 2: guy that I think is widely considered to be part

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01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: of the new leadership on defense to rel Bernard, maybe

1422
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: Taylor Rap and Taron Johnson fits that bill also. So

1423
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: let's hear from Taron Johnson at the close of mining

1424
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: camp today.

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Speaker 11: What is the summer plans?

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01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 18: What do you got going on?

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 11: What are you guys gonna kind of plan to take

1428
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 11: the time until training camp?

1429
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 19: Really just get better in football, Maybe take a little

1430
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 19: time to recuperate a little bit, but at the end.

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01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 5: Of the day, just focused on the season. Might have

1432
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 5: a couple guys with me working out.

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Speaker 19: So that's that's all fun and Danny, I'm excited to

1434
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 19: get rolling and start the off season process.

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Speaker 5: A lot of new names.

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Speaker 11: I know we talked about this with you during OTA's

1437
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 11: but what was it like kind of getting through this

1438
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 11: stage and what do you need to now focus on

1439
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 11: as you shift forward?

1440
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 3: Man?

1441
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 5: Just making sure that we keep the chemistry up.

1442
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 19: I mean, there's there's guys that are going to be

1443
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 19: mean together throughout the whole entire season, So just making

1444
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 19: sure we're doing that throughout the throughout the off season.

1445
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 19: So if we could keep that up, I feel like

1446
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 19: it'll help us going into training camp.

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01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 11: I know Rasul was gone for OTAs and then Christian

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 11: was gone this week and Kyer had a lot of

1449
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 11: splash plays.

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01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 5: In your perspective, what have you seen from Kyer? And

1451
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 5: you know where has the growth of ben Ah? The

1452
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 5: growth is everywhere.

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01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 19: You know what I'm saying, He's understanding the plays more.

1454
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 19: I could see his technique getting better in a lot

1455
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 19: of different areas. So it's just special to see you

1456
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 19: know what I'm saying, We got great coaches that have

1457
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,440
Speaker 19: helped all of us, you know what I'm saying, improve tremendously,

1458
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 19: So just continue to continuing to make that jump is huge.

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01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 9: You guys didn't have a lot of time in Bernard

1460
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 9: and Milana when you're all together. Now you're getting a

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01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 9: little bit of that time. Matt, you know, was able

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01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 9: to participate a little bit. What was that like to

1463
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 9: have the three of you now out there together for

1464
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 9: a couple of practices.

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01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 5: It's great. It's great seeing Matt out there. You know

1466
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

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01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 19: He's been hurt for a while, so I'm just happy

1468
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 19: to have him back out there. And me and TV

1469
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 19: played the whole season together last year, and I feel

1470
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 19: like our connection is only going to get better, and

1471
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 19: have him Matt out there is only going to make

1472
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 19: us more dangerous, all right.

1473
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Speaker 2: So that's Taron Johnson addressing the media after mandatory mini

1474
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: camp practice today, encouraging what he said there about kyer

1475
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: Elam and obviously all those guys are hopeful to get

1476
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: the All Pro mamm Lano Beck at full capacity, hopefully

1477
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. In training camp, Steve and I

1478
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: take a break here. When we come back, we'll still

1479
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: take your phone calls on who you think has to

1480
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: dominate a training camp for the Bills. Also, we may

1481
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: crack open that tweet sheet to see what you have

1482
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: to say there as well. When we return here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Coil Out of Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. A final half hour One Bill's Live.

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01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and want to crack

1486
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: open the tweet sheet here. Which we have yet to

1487
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: do is we've been asking you today which Bills player

1488
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 2: do you believe needs to dominate training camp. Maybe it's

1489
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: somebody you think needs to really show up and show

1490
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: out to make the fifty three man roster. Maybe it's

1491
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 2: someone that's got to dominate to play a more prominent

1492
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 2: role on our defense or defense. Whatever you have in mind,

1493
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: you can let us know, and you can still call

1494
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: in at eight o three oh five. Fifty tweets sheet

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

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Speaker 2: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Andrew Leeds often says,

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Speaker 2: I would have to say that Connor McGovern would have

1498
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: to dominate during training camp. We still don't know how

1499
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 2: he's going to pan out at center with the chemistry

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: with Josh Allen. If they don't have good chemistry, do

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: we go out and get a center. No, I don't

1502
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: think they do. That's why they signed veteran Will Clap

1503
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 2: from the Chargers and free agency and drafted Cedric van

1504
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: pran Granger. But all indications or things are going pretty

1505
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: darn well. Yeah, with McGovern in the pivot, so that's positive.

1506
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the second person we've caught. Yeah, I

1507
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: heard from today, this said Connor McGovern because and I

1508
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: get it too. Everybody's kind of this on pins and news.

1509
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: They always want to protect Josh, make sure he's okay. Listen.

1510
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: They'll make it work. They're gonna find somebody to snap

1511
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: the ball. What it comes down to as well, is

1512
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: having Connor mcgovernor in the center looking at the defense,

1513
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: pointing to Mac the linebacker, setting the protections off of

1514
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: that guy, and Josh and him seeing it the same way,

1515
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: and having a relationship and a communication without talking to

1516
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: each other, where they both know each other's thinking, let

1517
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: alone making sure that they handled the ball exchange a

1518
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: thousand times right, exactly right. It's it's always well and

1519
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: good until you know you think about it, and everybody

1520
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: has fond feelings for Mitch morson the job he did here.

1521
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: The only time you think about that one time it

1522
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: didn't was in the Minnesota game in Orchard Park. All

1523
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: they had to do is execute a kneel down or

1524
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak for no gain to win the game,

1525
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: and they gave it up. They didn't do it, so

1526
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: they lost that game because of it. That was one

1527
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: of three game stopping plays that happened in that thing,

1528
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: and it was a simple exchange of exchange of center.

1529
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: So it's it's hard to do, and you know you

1530
01:17:58,479 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: got to do it. It's not just hard to do,

1531
01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: it's easy to do, but you've got to do it

1532
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: perfectly a thousand plus times a season. So that and

1533
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: that's not even the important part about It's important, but

1534
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: it's not even the biggest consideration at this point of

1535
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: the season because you've got all this other stuff to

1536
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: think about, the communication, the knowledge and the ability to

1537
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: communicate a line. The line calls all of that stuff.

1538
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: So it's a complicated game. And McGovern is a good

1539
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: it's a good answer. It's not bad. It's a good answer,

1540
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: and it is off a little bit off the page.

1541
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: So I kind of liked that we got multiple answers for.

1542
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: That, and we probably won't have a defined answer until

1543
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: we see this team in Pats in training camp in

1544
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 2: the preseason.

1545
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: Physically, McGovern should be bigger and better and more athletic

1546
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: than Mitch. And Mitch was good, but McGovern's, you know what,

1547
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds heavier and what six years younger. So

1548
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: it'll be an interesting if it happens well mentally and

1549
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: you know practice, it should be an upgrade athletically.

1550
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 2: Upfront Selah on the tweets, she says number five kay

1551
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 2: her Elim, he will be our starting corner. He's going

1552
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: to dominate because he has to. His NFL career is

1553
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 2: on the line. I don't know if his career is

1554
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: on the line. I think he's on this roster, but

1555
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: I think, just knowing what his goals are, he wants

1556
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: a starting job in year three and I think he's

1557
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: going to fight tooth and nail for it. So I

1558
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,560
Speaker 2: would agree he's going to try to dominate because he

1559
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: knows that's how noticeable his game is going to have

1560
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 2: to be in training camp to unseat a veteran in

1561
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 2: Rasul Douglas or his draft class made Christian Benford.

1562
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: Right, he's gonna have to be super. I think for now,

1563
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: I think that's I think he's the guy taking the rips.

1564
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: And as we've said, you know, people been noticing him.

1565
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: He's athlete. He's an athlete man. He's big, he's very fast,

1566
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: he's twitchy, he's loose in his hips. I mean, he

1567
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: can change direction, quickly, react well, tackles well. I mean

1568
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: he's got a lot, he's got all of that. It's

1569
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: been a head scratcher for us all as to why,

1570
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, what's going on, Why why hasn't he been

1571
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: on the field. Maybe those issues have been solved.

1572
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think if the spring is any indication,

1573
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 2: he can certainly use that as a springboard into training camp.

1574
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: He had a good spring by all accounts. Jim on

1575
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 2: the tweets sheet says Claypool could be his last chance.

1576
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 2: Would be a huge addition if it works out. We've

1577
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 2: kind of covered the Claypool situation in hour number one.

1578
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I mean Jim's right. If he can

1579
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: make it work and put it all together. The physical

1580
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: gifts are there to be a pretty dominant wide receiver.

1581
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: We just have not seen it on a consistent basis

1582
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: from him no matter what team he has played for.

1583
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 2: So will it change here? We'll see. We just we

1584
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: just don't know right now, and we probably won't get

1585
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: a better sense of it until we get through the

1586
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 2: majority of the preseason. Jeremy on the tweets, she says,

1587
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: anyone we aren't already expecting a rookie or an off

1588
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: season signing that we thought would be for depth, but

1589
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: can contend for a starting spot. Yeah, I mean, Jeremy's

1590
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: playing the field here. You know some rookie that surprises,

1591
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's like a Dwayne Carter. You know,

1592
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: suddenly he's he's got he's locked down the backup three

1593
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 2: technique position behind Ed Oliver, you know, and he's gonna

1594
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: get thirty five forty snaps a game.

1595
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: This is a different question, but along the same lines.

1596
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: One of the guys that you know, you think, man,

1597
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: maybe he does, maybe he will, maybe he won't. It

1598
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: would be a guy like Javon Solomon, a guy who

1599
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: they drafted. He's it's not Keon Coleman. Is He's just

1600
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: a guy kind of under the radar, but he comes

1601
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: in and all of a sudden, he's this, you know,

1602
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: the second emergence of Von Miller, you know, one of

1603
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: those guys like that would be really interesting. One of

1604
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: the draft picks that nobody knew about that we got

1605
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: after every other team and had three shots at him

1606
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: and didn't take him, And the Bills take him and

1607
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's a he's a game buster.

1608
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: That to me would be a really pleasant surprise. If

1609
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: they can get like, all of a sudden from nowhere,

1610
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: get an elite pass rusher at the NFL level and

1611
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 1: plug the guy in here we go, that would be

1612
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: really cool. That would be really cool. And there's guys

1613
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: like you know, Solomon and Solomon and other guys Ula Fotio.

1614
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: Maybe he steps in all of a sudden he becomes

1615
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: a guy that we didn't know about. That would be

1616
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: That's the fun part about it. I think not only

1617
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: for just fans and all that, but also for the

1618
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: front office. They watch these guys and they think, and

1619
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: I think he could really and he and he fulfills

1620
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: all your hopes and click right, it clicks for the

1621
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,799
Speaker 1: guy or he's in a defensive scheme here in Buffalo

1622
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: that he wasn't in college. Janel. The Bills saw what

1623
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: he could do in their scheme and Presto changjoh, they

1624
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: were right. You know, That's that's the fun part about

1625
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: training camp.

1626
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: Malk on the tweets sheet, says Greg Russo, it's time. Yeah,

1627
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: I would agree with that. This is his fourth season,

1628
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: and look, I know he only had five sacks last year,

1629
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: but this guy finished second on the team and tackles

1630
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: for loss behind Ed Oliver, second on the team in

1631
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 2: quarterback hits behind Leonard Floyd. He had a productive season

1632
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 2: by all accounts, just did not have a high sack total.

1633
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 2: And I don't know what it is. I just think

1634
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: he's going to kind of put it all together this

1635
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: year and I think the sacks will come as well,

1636
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: So hopefully that's the case for him.

1637
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Rousseau. I think he has playton.

1638
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: He has not been you know, this all pro world beating,

1639
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen sack a year guy. But that guy

1640
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: has really fulfilled the promise of his draft status. He's

1641
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: drafted high and he has been on the field and

1642
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: played well and solidly since day one. I think that's

1643
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: I think that's the feather in his cap. I don't,

1644
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: I don't.

1645
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: We'll see steady.

1646
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: Yes, he's steady, and that's you know, it's never fun

1647
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: to just say, well, he's a steady player, you know that,

1648
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: but it's not value, and that's saying there's an enormous

1649
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: amount of value in that here. Your floor gets raised

1650
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: by guys with like Rousseau. Your roof doesn't get raised,

1651
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: but your floor does. And that's one of the reasons

1652
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: why this team never gets beat by more than a

1653
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: possession because of guys like Rousseau. You just they never

1654
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: drop out of sight. And it's I think the Bills

1655
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: appreciate that about him, and we've seen steady improvement on

1656
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: him from him.

1657
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I.

1658
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: A part of me that just kind of hopes he

1659
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: puts it all together because he's certainly worked for it.

1660
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: So it'll be nice to see it come together for

1661
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: him in every defensive stat category, most notably the secks.

1662
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: And you know, not knowing exactly what to expect from

1663
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: von Miller, I think we're all hopeful, but you know,

1664
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: if he's still not the same guy, you're gonna need

1665
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: Rousseau to help in that category because Leonard Floyd didn't

1666
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: hear anymore. Yeah, I mean Leonard Floyd was the stop

1667
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: gap last year when Vaughn wasn't Vonn. Right, if Vaughn

1668
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 2: is still not Vn, because we just don't know, somebody

1669
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 2: like Rousseau is going to have to fill that void.

1670
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just gonna have to simple as that I

1671
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: still have I'm still high on Vughn.

1672
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 5: We'll see.

1673
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: I may be crazy, but I.

1674
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: Know I don't think you're crazy. I don't think it's

1675
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 2: crazy to think that. Jack on the tweets, she says,

1676
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: whoever wants the job a wide receiver after Shakir and Samuel,

1677
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: someone needs to come in and take over to win

1678
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 2: a job and put our minds at ease. I hope

1679
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: it's Coleman. I don't buy claypool hype. I like Mark,

1680
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: Mark Wes Valdez Scantling, but he's a number four Collins.

1681
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Don't count out Hamler also rap on defense. He's got

1682
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 2: guys pushing him. Yeah, I think we've already kind of

1683
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 2: addressed the wide receiver position. It's a shmazzle. Yeah, I mean,

1684
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: after Shakir and probably Samuel, just because of the size

1685
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 2: of the contract that he signed. He's going to be

1686
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: on the roster.

1687
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: Cole Bishop, Taylor, Rap, Mike Edwards. That's that's that's a

1688
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: good group, and it'll be interesting to see who the

1689
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: top guys are. Bishop has got to catch up mentally

1690
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 1: to the you know that he's in a he's in

1691
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: a completely new defense and a completely new type of

1692
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 1: defense as well than the one he ran in college.

1693
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: He'll have to catch up mentally to get on the field. Athletically,

1694
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: He's he's got boatloads of athleticism. He's gonna be fine there.

1695
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out and

1696
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: who the guy is behind Mind, Rap or Bishop. Assuming

1697
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 1: Mike Edwards is your top guy. So that'll be fun

1698
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: to watch and it'll and you know, let's face it,

1699
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: it's like every other of these positions. The two wide

1700
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: receiver spots we're talking about on the field and the

1701
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 1: two safety spots. It's there for the taking.

1702
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us here. Some final thoughts on

1703
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: the tweet sheeet when we return here on one Bill's

1704
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: Live presented by co Lot of Health.

1705
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 15: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1706
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 2: All right, A couple of final thoughts on the tweet

1707
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: sheet here in terms of which player you feel needs

1708
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: to dominate in training camp, TJ says QB one. If

1709
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: he dominates and the offense is rolling and ready for

1710
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: the season and life after digs. It was interesting because

1711
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: Steve and I had this conversation yesterday when Josh was

1712
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: our topic, and we kind of thought like, might be

1713
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,520
Speaker 2: time for Josh to be become more of a facilitator

1714
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 2: and the raise the level of the players around him

1715
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: that way, rather than putting the cape on all the

1716
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: time to try to win. So while you may want

1717
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: him to dominate, I think he's going to have to

1718
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: dominate in a in a point guard kind of way.

1719
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have a problem with And we thought

1720
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: about it. You know, you're watching practice and stuff. It'd

1721
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: be nice if, you know, some of the he'd make

1722
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: some decisions, like some of the other quarterbacks in the league,

1723
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: make the decision instead of waiting. Yeah, within the structure

1724
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: waiting waiting, I'm gonna make I'm gonna see if I

1725
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: can get the deep one first and then come back

1726
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: down to take the easy one. By the time you

1727
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: come back take the easy one, your time runs out.

1728
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Just get rid of the ball. Let your guys run it.

1729
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: Now it's second and one. Take it again, and now

1730
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: it's first and ten. You know, and you got to

1731
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen yards of field position already. So it'd

1732
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: be nice to see him do that. And like we

1733
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: said last week, and I think that the perception that

1734
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people would like to see is just

1735
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: make it look easy, Josh, making it look like you

1736
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:02,480
Speaker 1: have to be Superman.

1737
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, make it look easy. Take the easy throw, go,

1738
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: Randy says. With the turnover in the wide receiver room,

1739
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: now is the time for Justin Shorter to step up

1740
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: and show why he is the number one wide receiver.

1741
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna be the number one

1742
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: receiver in this offense, but I think making the fifty

1743
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: three would be a victory for him. And he's gonna

1744
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: have to do a lot to leave frogs and people

1745
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 2: on the depth chart right now.

1746
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 1: If he becomes wide receiver one, it's gonna be like

1747
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: week four of the regular season. That's how long it'll take.

1748
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: And he's gonna have to earn it. He's gonna have

1749
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: to just grab it and hold it, just like most

1750
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: of these guys. I don't think the number one wide

1751
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: receiver has been decided on.

1752
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the intriguing competitions that will be

1753
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: coming your way in training camp and the not too

1754
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: distant future. Steve and I are back tomorrow with an

1755
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 2: obl Friday fan mail bag. Get your questions in, we'll

1756
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 2: see it won

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01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 14: Eight